WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Year End Wrap-Up, Part 1 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:09.800 Welcome to Invention, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.760 welcome to Invention. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.160 Joe McCormick. And it's the end of the year. We're 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.759 sort of wrapping up in the winter season here. This 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:19.639 is going to be the end of the first year 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.680 of Invention as a podcast, and we're coming at you 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.640 with some year end wrap up listener mail. I think 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.120 we're probably gonna do two episodes worth of listener mail, 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.680 because we actually have we we haven't heard from you 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.199 since August or so, it's been a while one. So 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:35.840 we figured this would be a great way to close 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.800 out the year to share some messages from fans of 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.959 the show, like you. All right, so we're gonna summon um. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.680 What's our mail bot in the show name? We've forgotten 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:49.040 the name. It's Malos. So it's Melos. Yeah, modeled after Taalos, 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.919 the Bronze automaton, and this is the mail bot Melos. 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.640 Say hello Melos. Okay, now I remember it, now, I 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.360 remember it? My bad all right, So we have some 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.280 listener mail. Let's dive right into it. These are again 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.640 going to refer to various episodes of the show, some 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.479 recent some not so recent, but it's all good stuff. Yeah, 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.720 it's going aways back. And this one comes from the 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.280 series we did in October about coffins and caskets, all 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.200 all the different kinds of inventions in that world, like 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.759 to prevent your body from being removed from a coffin 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:21.920 or casket when you wanted to stay in there, to 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.040 help get your body out of a coffin or casket 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.960 when you wanted to get out. Uh So, this one 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:32.280 comes from our listener, Katherine. Catherine says, Hey, guys, First, 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.600 I want to tell you how much I'm enjoying your podcast. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.360 I am a former librarian turns stay at home mom 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.679 with two kiddos, a two year old and a six 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.680 month old. I really enjoy listening while doing stuff around 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.480 the house. And I have a story for you that's 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.960 too funny not to share. I was listening to your 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.080 first episode on caskets earlier this week. Since y'all are 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.760 family friendly, I was letting it play where my two 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.360 year old e J could hear. I didn't really think 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.400 she was paying attention, but boy was I wrong. In 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.920 the episode, you talked about Victor Orion safety caskets and 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.040 Edgar Allan Poe. Well, I happened to have an Edgar 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.080 Allan Poe finger puppet on my desk in our office 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.320 the day after listening to Caskets Part one. I found 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.280 pose jacket lying in the middle of the office floor. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.120 So I called e j into the room and asked 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.960 her where Edgar Allan Poe was. She knows who he 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.720 is because I've let her play with the puppet a 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.480 few times. She immediately said, oh, and runs over to 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.560 my husband's desk and retrieves his glasses case. He's dead. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:34.160 She then proceeds to open the glasses case, revealing interred 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:39.799 and jacketless Edgar Allan Poe. Then she says, but not really, Yes, 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.880 my two year old had buried Edgar Allan Poe in 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.840 my husband's glasses case alive. Needless to say, my mind 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.760 was blown. I didn't know whether to laugh or not. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.160 I had no idea she was paying such close attention 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.240 to the episode. Anyway, I thought y'all would enjoy knowing 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.480 that you have a very young and attentive listener. Keep 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.720 up the good work, Catherine. Oh, that's wonderful. Uh, you 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.880 know bidden horrors in the child's head that earlier it's 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.760 a real privilege. Well no, well yes and no, but 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:11.040 I do find it amuzing because yeah, young kids, Uh, 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:16.160 they are very interested in in concepts of death and 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.079 uh and uh and so forth, even if they they 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:22.960 certainly don't have the ability to fully understand these lofty concepts, 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.880 I mean, the understanding of which eludes adults a lot 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.519 of the time. But um, but but yeah, I don't 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.760 know how many times i've you know, my my my 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.480 son has been playing with stuffed animals and there's one 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.120 that his dead or has died you know, or must 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.720 or you know, and so forth. So uh, yeah, I 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.040 think this is a wonderful story and and and also 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.080 it's neat that they applied the you know, the concepts 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.280 of live burial to the scenario. Yeah, I'm just glad 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.880 that they weren't listening in to the Guillotine episodes. It's 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.360 probably gone sideways on you. Are we family friendly? I 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.320 guess we are. We're not overtly or intentionally not family friendly, 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.680 but we cover some mature stuff and we don't cuss 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.440 per se, you know. All Right, here's another one. This 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.440 comes to us from Josh, and it concerns caskets as well, 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.960 hey guys, I'm writing this after listening to the second 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.600 part of the Casket and thought you might find this 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.320 interesting or at least entertaining. My wife and I are 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.560 members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.200 and we believe in a literal and physical resurrection. I 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.920 found your discussion of the idea that your body needs 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.680 to stay intact for resurrection very interesting, mostly because I 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.320 am an organ downer. I figured that organs taken from 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.960 my body will somehow be returned when the time comes. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.800 I also figure if people who choose cremation can get resurrected, 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.039 how hard could it be to just get a harder 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.240 liver back. I figure someone else should use them while 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.040 I can't. Anyway, my wife, on the other hand, is 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.840 of a different opinion. She doesn't like the idea of 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.120 her organs flying through the air on their way back 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.880 to her body. I thought you may like that personal 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.560 take on one of the aspects discussed on the episode. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.520 I listened to a lot of podcasts, but yours are 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:00.479 easily my favorites. Best wishes, Josh, Thanks Josh. I wonder 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.239 how how does this belief square with like fears about 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.560 how your body is interred. Like, do you have a 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.080 fear of grave robbing? I guess grave robbing doesn't happen 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.200 a lot these days as far as I know, I 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:14.000 don't know, Joe. Check out the headlines. Um, there's some 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.000 stories out there. There are new versions of grave robbing 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.000 that are that are allegedly going on as well. But 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.440 what in like New Orleans with above ground burials and 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.040 crips and no, there was a there was a new story. Gosh, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.800 I don't remember which city this was out of, but 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.200 the idea, no, it was out of out of Arizona. Okay, yeah, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.240 perhaps out of Phoenix, I don't recall. But basically the 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.839 idea that some organ donation places were not operating like 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.000 on the level and um, you know had like you know, 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.760 bags of organs sitting around that sort of thing. Don't 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:51.600 let that discourage you know, is great? Yeah, absolutely, Um, 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.240 but I'm just saying that there if you want to, 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.599 you may not be concerned about your body being stolen 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.400 these days, but you can find, you know, to Like 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.440 my main my main reaction to seeing that story on 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.719 the news was that, Okay, someone's going to use this 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.720 as an excuse not to uh, you know, don'tate their 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.880 body to science or become an organ donor, which I 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.560 think is absolutely the wrong move. Certainly, you know, look 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.240 into where your body is going, you know, be be 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.560 an informed donor, uh, to the extent to which that 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.160 is possible. But uh, you know, on the other hand, yeah, 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.400 I think the the argument that you're not going to 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.760 use your organs once you're dead is totally solid. Let 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.600 somebody else use them and uh. And then I do 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.680 love the way Josh factors this into his belief system. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.120 You know that he doesn't he doesn't let belief in 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.280 a physical resurrection keep him from doing something, uh that 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.479 that you know, can help people out and can improve 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.960 the quality of life and save lives for other individuals. Sure, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.640 all right? Should we move on to emails about our 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.480 episode on Ketchup. We got a ton of feedback about 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.960 ketch Up. I don't know how covered in Ketchup we 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.039 want to get here, but it's the logical place to 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.400 go after organ donation, I guess. So should we look 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.040 at this first one from Christian. This is responding to 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.240 our comments about curry Worst and the role of Ketchup 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.800 in German food. I think I uh, said that I 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.320 believed curry Worst was like a type of like cut 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.920 up sausage that was popular German fast food that was 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:25.000 in some kind of curry ketchup mixture. Christian responds, Hi, 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.440 I'm quite late, but my podcascher is backed up a 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.200 little bit. So I write to you now about your 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.600 episode on Ketchup. First, great episode. A second. You weren't 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.480 slandering German cuisine at all. Now, that makes me wonder 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.720 exactly what it was. I said, Um, curry Worst is 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.280 a German brought first drowned in a secret sauce which 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.800 is mostly ketchup and curry powder and is widely available 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.280 as a quote traditional German fast food, invented in the 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.920 fifties and sixties. Historically it served as a whole worst 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:57.040 in Berlin and cut with scissors in my home region 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.720 in the Ruhr That that is a a squak. I 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.200 did not know that I had. That is like cutting 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.960 sausage with a knife, that's normal, but like the scissors 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.960 that got into my brain and and did horrible things. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.760 I don't know. You gotta cut a sausage with something. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.280 I don't know why the scissors feel so much worse. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.160 I don't know. I mean, well, I guess it comes 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.040 back to the idea that a sausage is phallic in 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.640 form I'm sure he does. Actually, because I found I 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.480 was also getting grossed out by the idea of just 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.960 generally cutting meat with scissors. It gave me the creeps. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.800 I mean, we have kitchen sheers, right, Those are sometimes 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.480 used to take apart, say a chicken carcass, right, I 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.880 guess they they sometimes are. I used it to take 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.439 apart vegetables sometimes. Huh, that's not you know, you wigged 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.800 out with the possibility of using kitchen shears and say, 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.280 I don't know, celery, I don't know, maybe a little 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.960 bit more so on the meat. I don't know something. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.959 Something's are going wrong there anyway, Christian continues. It was 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.360 a long time in the top three most served fast 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.640 food in Germany until Donor Kebab pushed it out down 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.200 to the fourth spot. The second most sold catch up 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.400 in Germany after regular Ketchup is Career ketch Up, with HeLa, 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.640 the leading brand with a more marked shared than the 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.160 American Juggernaut. Hines, so eating Ketchup in Germany often comes 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.400 with curry powder, and while I keep a bottle of 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.280 ketchup around my kitchen. I really can't stand curry in 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.520 my ketchup since I started cooking meals and exploring flavor 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.160 for myself. Keep up the great podcasting. I hope I 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.760 can catch up with your podcast soon. With spiced greetings, Christian, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.079 Well this is great. I now I really want to 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.720 try some German ketchup. I feel like a lot of 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.200 German cuisine since it is kind of unavailable to me 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:36.360 now because it is traditional German cuisine. German. Please correct 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.080 me if I'm wrong, but yeah, I try to go 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:43.160 to a German restaurant in New Orleans very recently, and 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:44.640 I just looked at the menu and I'm like, Okay, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.120 there's like nothing I can eat here. Um, Like you 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.520 can get some good potato salad, or it is bacon 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.439 in it? Oh really didn't or it usually does. I 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.880 mean maybe they're I guess they're probably variations of German 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.200 potato salad that don't have meat in them, but my 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.360 understanding is that it usually does. Um. And so like 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.480 the only two things on the menu of an otherwise 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:08.000 great looking German restaurant, the two things that were vegetarian, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.680 we're not particularly German. Uh, so what was the point 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.520 of going right? I don't know. I'm sorry, man, but 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.240 I would I am happy to be corrected by anyone else. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:22.400 Here has recommendations on German restaurants in the continental United 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:28.360 States that can appease my my dietary constraints or likewise, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.840 just an information about what what what is it like 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:35.240 to uh to eat traditional German fair and be a vegetarian? Yeah, 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.080 I don't know. Well, I look forward for the recipes 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.120 coming in. Yeah. Uh, Robert, do you mind if I 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.600 jump on with this next one about chop because I 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.520 was already practicing some of these words. Please do this one. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.080 What's long? It's not too long, but it's yeah, it's 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.320 about where I'm still going to get some of them wrong, 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.160 I know, all right, So this was also about the 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.280 ketchup episode. Is from a listener who did not want 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.760 us to share her name allowed, so I if I 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.640 name her, I'm just gonna call her chop for ketchup. Uh. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.800 This message seems to be in response to us talking 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.079 about how tomatoes used to be known as the apples 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.480 of love or love apples like in French, and how 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.960 other fruits and tubers and stuff were once named with 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:17.959 some kind of apple plus modifier construction, for example potatoes 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.400 in French or palm to tear apples of the earth 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.319 and so forth. Uh. And so this was in response 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.320 to that our listener chup rights. Hey guys, you were 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.600 wondering in the catchup episode about other weird apples. So, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.800 being the multi lingual linguistics geek but not a proper 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.000 linguist that I am, I felt inclined to share my knowledge. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:41.199 First of all, apple or medieval Latin palm um didn't 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:47.240 only mean apple, but food or crop in general. That's interesting. Uh. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.040 This is why various settlers called plants they found in 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.920 other parts of the world some kind of apple. The 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.840 origins aren't always linguistically clear, since the English, French, Spanish, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.280 and Dutch all ventured all over the world and often 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:03.679 found similar their plants independently in very different places, since 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.240 they weren't the first people to travel and conquer all 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.439 over the place and spread crops all over the place. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:13.280 Here are some examples. Pomegranate means seeded apple. The name 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.320 is of French and medieval Latin origin. Extra fact, the 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.440 apple that Adam and Eve share in Biblical tradition was 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.800 probably originally thought to be a pomegranate, since that was 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.720 a fruit well known but still considered a delicacy in 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.720 the lavant region. Of course, paradise isn't limited in any way, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.360 and all fruits can grow there. But this is essentially 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.400 about stories and culture. I know it's in the original text. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.120 It is not specified to be an apple, like the 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.280 fruit we call an apple. It's just like it's a fruit, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.400 and we don't necessarily know what fruit it was supposed 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.520 to be, so there's a debate about what fruit it 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.400 was in the garden of Eden. I was like thinking 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.439 of it as a banana, just because it's it's more 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.400 funny that way. I think I've heard somebody propose it 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:57.160 was a lemon. I like that delicious. Uh. This listener 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.560 continues in Greek, then Latin and German, English, French, et 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.120 cetera translations, the pomegranate became an apple, and so it 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.400 was depicted in Eurocentric art. Oranges are called apple sign 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.960 or apple sign in German and Dutch, which means Chinese apple. Uh. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:17.040 Peaches were originally called Persian apples. They're called parask and 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.520 Dutch and the country as Persia, making it even clearer 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.559 where the fruit was first discovered by Europeans, even though 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.160 it originated somewhere in central to East Asia. Like oranges, 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.960 potatoes are called the earth apple and Dutch art apple, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.920 and in some German speaking regions aired app ful. Uh. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.160 Pineapples are a little more convoluted. They're called this because 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.760 they reminded the Spanish explorers of pine cones with overall 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.439 shape and scales. Wild pineapples are also about the same 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.600 size as pine cones. Now in Dutch they say dnan 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.560 apple for fur cone, but that's basically the same thing. However, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.480 pineapples are called ananas. I guess that's in Dutch. Uh. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:03.440 Quince's kintzes. I've never actually um. I guess I was 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.679 saying quinces. I don't know if I was saying correctly. Okay, 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:10.360 Quinces are called Sidonian apples or variants of that. They 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.679 spread from West Asia through the Mesopotamian Empire to Greece, 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.880 where they entered European culture, and Sidonia was a city 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.120 on crete. Maybe it was also a quince that Adam 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.760 and Eve supposedly eight uh. And she says that's all 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.000 I can think of, but also a few other things. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.760 Peppers are some etymo logic variant of pepper in most languages, 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.120 as far as I know, she says, and then she 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.400 also has some comments about curry worst as curry works. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.000 Curry Worst is usually vealed or fine pork sausage, and 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.960 it's common street food sold on markets, permanent sausage stands 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.280 and carnivals, mainly in Berlin and the Rugabyte, both regions 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.840 claimed to be the origin. In Germany, we only have 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.600 McDonald's Burger King in some KFC in recent years as 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.440 fast food chains. Instead, there are these hole in the 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.200 wall kiosk style places that sell all kinds of sausages. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.040 Curry ketchup can be bought anywhere, and it's very good 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.720 with fries. Oh yeah, but you probably know this. Fries 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.720 originated in Belgium, and Belgiums are very proud of them. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.040 Always happy about the foodie episodes. Thanks for the hard work, 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.240 detailed research and quality entertainment. Have a great week. I 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.120 I do want to come in real quick since we're 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.280 talking more about about German food. UM, I do not 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.880 mean to imply that I think Germany is a monolith 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.040 and that everyone in Germany just eat sausages, sausages and 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.920 where's the later hosing or whatever. Obviously they're multiple different 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:37.080 cultural cultures are represented in Germany, and not everyone is 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:42.280 Certainly not everyone is eating traditional German cuisine, especially as 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:47.760 it is recognized generally and by American audiences that are 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.960 going to German restaurants. But so my question is more specifically, 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.800 what would modern day meat uh seek out to eat 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.960 in order to scratch the same itch that meat head 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.800 the German American restaurants offered when I was a kid. Well, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.560 you know what I would say, Actually, perhaps my favorite 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.640 thing in German cuisine is not a meat. It is 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:14.880 completely vegetarian. It's their pickles. I love wonderful that this 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.240 is true. I do still eat sauer kraut, and I 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.960 do frequently have sauer kraud on um, like the veggie 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.240 dogs and whatnot. So, I mean, maybe I'm already practicing 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.040 the answer, but I but I want, I want more 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.440 answers than that. All right, you've got your assignment, folks, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.480 right in with vegetarian German food for Robert. I should 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.080 just say, by the way, that we heard from a 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:37.000 lot of like European listeners about the Ketchup episode I 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.120 don't know why that is. Maybe it's a coincidence. But 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.760 like multiple listeners from like Austria and Germany about ketchup, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.520 I don't know what's going on there. That's great, im 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.920 I want more of it. All right, here's another one. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.720 This one comes to us from David and uh here 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.560 he goes, Hello guys, another great episode. As an Australian listener, 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.160 I just wanted to share some differences in the way 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.520 we refer to the food items and sauces mentioned. First 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.439 of all, Australians up until fairly recently did not have 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.159 a product in the supermarket that was called ketchup. What 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.480 you would call ketchup, we simply called tomato sauce. For 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.560 an Australian ketchup is thought of as a thicker sauce. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.359 I believe this maybe because Hines sells both a thinner 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:22.000 tomato sauce and a thicker ketchup. It is also quite 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.800 interesting that Hines is so associated with the red sauce 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:29.600 in the US. In Australia, Beans means hinds quote unquote 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.320 is a big advertising campaign. Always makes me think of 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.480 that album by The Who That's got the Hines Big 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:39.919 Beans on it um. David continues, they are the baked 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.760 beans company to most of us, and this ketchup thing 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.639 is only probably a thing in the last five to 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.840 ten years, maybe a little longer. I would imagine that 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.720 the numbers you used for worldwide sales includes our tomato 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.760 sauce as ketchup on our condiment and sauce profile. We 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.840 are not big on the mustard. On any family table 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.679 a restaurants, you are more likely to see tomato sauce 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.280 and barbecue sauce as the two main sauces. Strange, we 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.520 have hot dogs with the Frankfurt, but Australians are more 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.040 likely to have a sausage sandwich that has a clear 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.919 skin sausage that is cooked on the barbecue in a 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.720 single piece of white bread with or without cooked onions, 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:26.200 and the sauces are either tomato or barbecue barbecue sauce everywhere. Yeah, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.840 it sounds like no buns for its bread instead of bunk, right, 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.320 like a white bread with the with the grilled items. 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.280 I mean that that's sort of a thing in American 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:39.479 southern barbecue tradition. To David continues, Australians call French fries chips. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.160 It is a strange thing that we have two products 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.440 that are referred to as chips. They are the fried 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:48.359 potato and the thinly cut cold product that you call chips, 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.359 and the English called crisps. The way we differentiate is 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.760 to say hot chips, but that is only when we 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.719 think it will cause confusion. So that's interesting. They kind 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.560 of took chips. It's like the chip, the aprickin chips 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.680 and the British ships. Uh and and they just use both. Yeah, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.959 very economical hot ships. David finishes up here and says, anyway, 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.159 just thought that I would share this because throughout the 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.800 episode I was continually having to translate in my own 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.920 mind as you were using these terms. I don't know why. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.720 I am always very interested to hear what other people 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.280 call food items and how they talk about them in 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.800 different cultures. Oh yeah, I mean it's it's a wonderful 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.280 way to to share and share alike with another culture. 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.320 It's like talking about what does a you know, what 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.760 does a chicken say in your language? What do you 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:35.640 call this food item that you inevitably have over there 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.360 as well? And if you don't have it, well, then 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.600 that's something we can relate about as well. What do 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:43.320 you have instead? Uh? Yeah, the kitchen table is that 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.960 the dining table in general, that's the place where where 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.360 pieces made between otherwise differing people. Right, all right, it's 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:50.959 time to take a quick break, but we'll be right 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:58.600 back with more. Okay, So we are back next for 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.199 moving on to respond says we got to our series 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.879 about the invention of air conditioning. I would say this 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.040 one got probably the most feedback of any episode we've done. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.120 There was a huge amount of email about air conditioning. Uh, 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.160 there is no way we'll have a chance to read 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.000 it all. We can do our best to give a 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:19.280 decent sampling here. So first I wanted to start off 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.080 with a message from Adam. This one was a correction 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.520 about something we said in the air conditioning episode. So 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.879 we were pointing out that a regular fan does not 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.800 actually cool the air in the room. In fact, a 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.240 fan might slightly increase the temperature of the air in 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.320 the room, and instead a fan, we were saying, cools 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.120 the body by causing air to move rapidly over your skin, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.760 which cools you by speeding up the evaporation of water 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.640 from your skin. Uh. And that, of course is true. 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.320 But here's Adam giving a fuller and clearer picture on 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:54.879 the issue. So Adam says, Hey, Robert and Joe, I've 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.160 written into stuff to blow your mind a few times recently, 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.920 but this is my first time writing into invention. I'm 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.600 a mechanical engineering student who did very well in my 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.720 heat transfer class, and I spotted an incorrect statement in 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.960 your air conditioning episode. Knowing how much you love corrections, 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.080 I thought I would provide this one. Hopefully it is 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:16.040