1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Emotion is soul got to throw, wants to throw it 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: to show down the thirty one yard line. Oh, that 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: is utiful. Welcome to the twenty in the Huddle podcast. 4 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: It is Week fifteen in the NFL, and that's right. 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: It is the stretch run time. The Detroit Lions and 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: New York Jets facing off at MetLife in New York, 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: actually in New Jersey on Sunday. And then look, both 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: teams are in the hunt Lions in the NFC, the 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Jets in the AFC. So it's a huge game. And 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: when I look at this matchup, I look at really 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: its strength on strength, and when you look at the 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Lions offense fifth in points, fourth in total defense, eleventh 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: running the football, seventh throwing the football, and the numbers 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: are almost similar on the opposite side with that Jets defense, 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean sixth in points allowed, third in total defense, 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: fourth against the past, thirteenth against the run. There might 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: be some opportunities there for Swift and Jackson and Williams 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: in the run game. We talked to offensive coordinator Ben 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Johnson on Thursday and he said, you know, that is 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: one area I think, you know, we need to be 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more consistent moving forward. Look, the lines 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: have been moving the ball and they've been scoring. They 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: didn't even punt against Jacksonville, but four of their last 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: six games they have averaged less than four yards per carry. 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: We didn't really see that a whole lot early in 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: the season. So maybe one area. You know, the Jets 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: are number four in the league against the pass. I 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: think they're number four in sacks. They've got thirty nine. 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: I think to slow that rush down, to maybe soften 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: that coverage just a little bit, I think the Lions 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: can stand to be a little bit more consistent, you know, 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: running the football. Maybe get a couple of those explosive 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: plays we saw a lot of earlier in the season, 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: but we haven't seen a lot of lately. I think 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: one thing that will help that is is certainly the 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: health upfront. Um. It's been terrific to see Evan brownback 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: this week. You know, we'll see what his status is 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: on Friday on the injury report in the game designations. 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: But you know, to get to have Decker and Um, 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Jonah Jackson and Frank rag Now and Evan Brown and 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: Penney Seul against that front, you know, they run, you 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: know that kind of wide nine. You know four down 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: wide nine. UM, different kind of front. Not a lot 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: of teams UM run it. So you know, to have 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: those five guys, your five starters, I think is huge, 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: UM for this team and for the run game, which 47 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned. UM, there were only two guys um that 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: we're missing out of practice to start the week due 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: to injury, UM kote Oseka the guard and and Derek Barnes. 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Um everyone else was healthy. UM. I didn't notice Adan 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: Hutchinson out of practice on Thursday. So but you know, obviously, UM, 52 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, we'll get an update on him. I know, 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, some illnesses have been working the way around 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: still the lines are trying to get by that. But 55 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: we'll see what his status is. But just in of 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: overall health, I mean for week fifteen of the NFL, 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: this line's team is in great shape heading down the 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: stretch run here. You know, I think maybe two other things, 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: just to know what Romeo Aquara was back last week. 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: I think he played twenty five snaps, which was more 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: than I anticipated. We're going to see that to continue 62 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: to ramp up. So you know, having James Houston, Aidan Hutchinson, 63 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Romeo Aquara, you know their guys on the edge I 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: think is big in this matchup. And then you know 65 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. It was obviously terrific to see the forty 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: one yard reception by him, his first in the NFL. 67 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: He went from eight snaps against Jacksonville to fourteen last week. 68 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: I would expect that to continue to go up depending 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: on the gameplay. I talked to Jared Golf on Wednesday. 70 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: He said he's looking good. He's getting way more comfortable, 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: and I'm getting way more comfortable with him. So that's 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: obviously a terrific sign moving forward. And just Jared overall 73 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: has been playing so good, and we're gonna have Jared 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: on the podcast today. He's been and I think getting 75 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: all his weapons back has been really huge for him. 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: I think you look at when this team started playing 77 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: good football, it really um corresponded with DJ Chark being back. 78 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm on Ross Saint Brown, you know, being the healthiest 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: he's been, DeAndre Swift finally getting over those ankle and 80 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: shoulder injuries, and and you know Josh Reynolds being healthy. 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: He just he finally has his full complement of weapons. 82 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: He's got his entire offensive lineback, both his running backs 83 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: and really all three four running backs when when you 84 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: add you know, Reynolds and Jackson in the mix too. 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: It's just he's got to be looking around the league 86 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: and seeing some of these injuries to teams. You know, 87 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: this late into the season, and it was the opposite 88 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: for Detroit. They dealt with it early and now they're 89 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: getting healthy now at the right time, and so you know, 90 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: I think that's really you know, coincided with with this 91 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: stretch of five wins and their last six. So look, 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: we'll see Sunday if if the Lions can keep it 93 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: keep it going. Like I said, I got Jared Golf today, 94 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: I've got Connor Rodgers joining me. He does great job 95 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: in the Jets for the New York market. I got 96 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Mike O'Hara breaking down the bet MGM key matchups. So 97 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: stick with me. We've got a big show. Welcome back 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft, 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: and I am very happy to be joined by Connor Rogers. 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: He does a terrific job covering the Jets in New York. 101 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: He's got his hands and kind of a little bit 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: of everything. A really popular podcast works for SNYTV in 103 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: New York, a PFF contributor NBC Sports Connor, You've got 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: it all covered there, my man. Thanks for joining me. 105 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time, Thanks for having me. 106 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Happy to be here. Obviously a much anticipated week, right. 107 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: I think when we both looked at this one over 108 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: the summer, you never knew how this would go for 109 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: each team, and both of them have started to surpass 110 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: expectations a little bit, so really exciting. Yeah, certainly that 111 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: was the biggest thing for at least for Detroit. I 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: don't know how you guys felt in New York, but 113 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, after a three win season in Dan Campbell's 114 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: debut in twenty twenty one, you were just like, let's 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: double those wins. Let's at least get to six. Let's 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: be part of the conversation in December. Let's be playing 117 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: some meaningful football and be in the graphic. I'm just curious, 118 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: when you guys settled into the start of this season 119 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of what was the expectations for this Jets team 120 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: and have they matched that exceeded it a little bit 121 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: under kind of where are you guys at in New 122 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: York with your football team. I think they've exceeded them. 123 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: I think when you open the season with a win 124 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: total at five and a half and you surpassed that 125 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: mark pretty early. Now, that's not the end goal, right 126 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: is to overachieve from how Vegas views you. But I 127 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: think what the Jets needed to see was young player development, 128 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: games that matter beyond Thanksgiving, which they absolutely do. The 129 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: Jets need that three of these next four and they're 130 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: probably in the playoffs. And of course a big step 131 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: from the integral parts of the franchise, that is the 132 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: coaching staff. They've taken those steps. A lot of Joe 133 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Douglas's draft picks, they've taken those steps. The one that 134 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: they have not gotten is, of course Zach Wilson, who 135 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: was benched from Mike White, who continues to overachieve expectations 136 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: as a former third string quarterback, former practice squad quarterbacks. 137 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: So you look at this Jets team and then one 138 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: last one is Quinn Williams turning into a superstar, something 139 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: that he had not done the first couple of years 140 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: after being a top ten pick, and now he looks 141 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: like that guy. So that's how they got here, that's 142 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: how they're in the playoff hunt, that's how they have 143 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: one of the better young defenses in the NFL. They 144 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: just need everything else to catch up. And that's where 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: they stand right now. Well, since you mentioned them, let's 146 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: talk about them. Quinnin Williams obviously their best defensive player, 147 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: leads him in sacks, quarterbacks, pressures, tackles for loss. I 148 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: mean you mentioned it. I consider him right there with 149 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: maybe Chris Jones and Aaron Donald as the best interior 150 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: guys in football. I know he's been dealing with a 151 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: calf injury. Any update, and I know Robert Sala earlier 152 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: than the week said fifty fifty is that kind of 153 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: still where it's at? Wait and see with him? And 154 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: then obviously Mike White dealing with the rib injury. Kind 155 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: of can you update us where those guys are and 156 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: what they're you know, what their availability could be for Sunday? Yeah, 157 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: truly fifty fifty on Quinnon. Caf injuries are very, very tricky. 158 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: It's not something that you just you know, throw a 159 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: brace on or even in my opinion, pain management. You 160 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: never know which way they can go. And apparently something 161 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: that had popped up in summer with Quinnon, he recovered. 162 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: He dominated for the first couple months of the season, 163 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: and then this popped up in Buffalo again and now 164 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: you're looking at it obviously some massive game for both teams. 165 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean both of these teams that are trying to 166 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: win out and make the playoffs. The Lions have a really, 167 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: really good offense where Quinn Williams not being on the 168 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: field is a massive difference maker both against the run 169 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: and against the pass. So I think he will do 170 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: everything possible to play. And here's the thing. Even if 171 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: he is active, they will probably really rotate him more 172 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: than we've ever seen. They already do that he plays 173 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: about sixty seventy seventy five percent of the snaps. I 174 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: think the rotation would put him down to forty to 175 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the snaps if he can even go. 176 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: So you're gonna see a limited Quinn Williams if you 177 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: see one at all. Mike White is really interesting because 178 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: that feels like pain management, and I don't think any 179 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: of us can stop at that with the hits that 180 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: he took, but the pain he's willing to play through. 181 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: So it's one of those situations. Can you put a 182 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: little bit more padding on the ribs and more importantly 183 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: protect him against the Lions front seven that I've noticed 184 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: over the last month has really really come together. That's 185 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: something where and activating Zach or making Zach Wilson the 186 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: number two kind of tells you that the Jets know 187 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: there's a chance Mike White. I think he'll be ready 188 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: to go for the game, but can he make it 189 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: through the game. We know Joe Flacco is just not 190 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: effective at all anymore. Zach Wilson's had his struggles, but 191 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: the Jets also won five of their seven games with 192 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson under center, so he's the number two. Probably 193 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: tells you about Mike White's pain tolerance, but ultimately it 194 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: feels like White is trending to start in this one. 195 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: Boy Connor, When I looked at a couple of those 196 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: hits that he took, I mean that second one, he 197 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: was folded like a pretzel almost. I mean, he's a 198 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: pretty tough young young man to stand in there, deliver 199 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: that football, take that hit if it does come to 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: pain management. Just the sense that you get from him, 201 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: he seems from the outside looking in like he's a 202 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: pretty tough character. He really is. I mean, I think 203 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: his quote was they'd have to peel him off the field. 204 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: So this has nothing to do with the amount of 205 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: pain he's in or desire. This is just that the 206 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: doctors clear him. If he's cured by the doctors to play. 207 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't see any scenario that he's willing to come 208 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: off the field unless he's forced to. Now, does it 209 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: change what the Jets do offensively? Right? With White, they've 210 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: been able to just really carve up the intermediate areas 211 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: of the field, both outside the hashes and in between 212 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: the numbers. And that was something that they struggled to 213 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: do with Zach Wilson under center. But White hangs in there. 214 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: He keeps his eyes up when the pressure is on. 215 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: He's willing to take a hit and throw the ball 216 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: down the field to Elijah Moore, to Garrett Wilson, really 217 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: all the way around the field. So can you live 218 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: constantly that way and continue to take those hits this week? 219 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: I really don't think so. I think you have to 220 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: be very conscious of that where maybe you see more screens. 221 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and say the Jets are 222 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: going to fire up the run. Now. The Jets have 223 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: been a good run team this year, but the lines 224 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: have been one of the better run defenses in the 225 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: NFL over the last month. So I don't think you 226 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: just sit on the ball and run the ball and 227 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: try to do something that could be ultimately ineffective. So 228 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: it's going to be a fascinating chess match with the 229 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: Jets injuries and the lines are sending talent. Yeah, it'll 230 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: definitely be interesting to see kind of how that plays out, 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: and you know, if he can go right out over 232 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: the next couple of days. We got to talk about 233 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: another guy on defense who has been really, really terrific. 234 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I think he's the defensive rookie of the year. And look, 235 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson has had a terrific start to this season. 236 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: Seven sacks, a couple intersection interceptions, Excuse me, he's been 237 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: a real playmaker. But boy, Sauce Gardner, the number four 238 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: overall pick, he has looked terrific. Six three, two hundred 239 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: pounds kind of I was looking at someone of the 240 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: numbers from PFF. It was something like forty four percent 241 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: completion percentage when throwing his way and a sub fifty 242 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: passer rating when teams try to challenge him. Did anyone 243 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: in New York expect him to be this good this 244 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: early in his career? No, and if they said that, 245 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: they'd be lying, even the guy that drafted him, that 246 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: no rookie corner comes in and does this. It's as 247 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: simple as that. So when you look at Sauce, I 248 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: mean I always laugh at him. I had him as 249 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: the number one corner in that class and I didn't 250 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: expect eighty percent of this. I mean, I'm blown away. 251 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: But what he's done. He's so good snap by snap, 252 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: and you talk about those PFF numbers, I mean they 253 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: really really jump out. Not just the ninety point six 254 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: coverage grade, because I know some people don't always buy 255 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: into the grades, but forty four point one percent completion 256 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: percentage when targeted, he's got the two picks, He's four 257 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: sixteen in completions. I think the one the two numbers 258 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: that really are jarring to me is forty eight point 259 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: eight passer rating when targeted. And then you look at 260 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: overall just the amount of yards he gives up per 261 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: coverage snap, which is kind of hovered in the you know, 262 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: zero point five five area. That's a jarring number. You 263 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: look at some of the better corners in the league, 264 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: like Patrick Peterson, they're more in the point eight and plus. 265 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: So snap by snap. He's been a great player. I 266 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: think they the Jets, and this is going to be 267 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: the big thing that the Lions have to answer, is 268 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: especially Jared Goff, they love to mix up or coverages. 269 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: This is not your you know, not your father's Robert 270 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Sala cover three defense. For ninety percent of the game. 271 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: You're gonna see quarters, you're gonna see cover one, You're 272 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: gonna get pressured. You're gonna have to diagnose splitfield coverages. 273 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: And the thing why the Jets are so effective in 274 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: these areas is that Sauce is not just a man 275 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: demand corner. He's a very talented zone corner. DJ Read 276 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: is the same way across from him. So the Jets 277 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: corners have been maybe the backbone of the team besides 278 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Quinnon Williams up front. Yeah, and really that front seven. 279 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean you look at the thirty nine sacks by 280 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: the Jets, fourthmost in the in the league. They can 281 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: really get after the quarterback. And we always talk all 282 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: the time about what's good defense right when you can 283 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: marriage the pass rush and the coverage behind it, and 284 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I think the Jets maybe do it better than anyone 285 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: in the league. But Connor, this is really a strength 286 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: on strength here, right, because you look at Detroit's offense, 287 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, top seven in the league in passing, 288 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: in total offense, in scoring, and then you look on 289 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: the flip side, it's the same story for the Jets. 290 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: So I'm curious what if Jets defenders been saying this 291 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: week at what's Robert Salop been saying just about how 292 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: talented Detroit's offense is and how explosive they've been, especially 293 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: with now DJ Chark healthy, Jamison Williams and that full 294 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: complement of receivers and arguably one of the top two 295 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: offensive lines in football. Just what have they talked about 296 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: the challenge for them this week? I think the awareness 297 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: of the offensive line they're dealing with, and I think 298 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: that's where, you know, the Jets kind of understand everything 299 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: starts in the trenches, and the Lions understand that as well. 300 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: These teams have been on similar rebuild paths. The quarterback 301 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: trajectory has been different, but everything else around them. They've 302 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: had top picks, they've had coaching staffs that really took 303 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: a beating year one without their full complement of players 304 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: on their roster, and then they've had improvement in year two, 305 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: and they constantly point to winning in the trenches, and 306 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: the Jets kind of have a mindset each week, but 307 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: especially against a team like the Lions, is that you 308 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: have to earn the right to rush the passer. There 309 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: are teams that will test you with the run game 310 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: over and over, especially if whin it's not on the field. 311 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: And that's not to take away from the rest of 312 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: the players on the Jet front Carl Lawson, Sheldon Rankins, 313 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers, but the bottom line is there are teams, 314 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: especially if the weather is a little dicey. We know 315 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: it'll be cold. You never know how the wind tunnel 316 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: will be at MetLife. It's a weird variable that can 317 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: affect the pass game and the kicking game, and teams 318 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: are going to test you against the run and if 319 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: you don't shut down the run, they'll keep doing it. 320 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's an emphasis of the Jets coaching 321 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: staff is that you love the sack numbers. You love 322 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: that they lead to Pro Bowls and accolades and highlights 323 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: on Twitter and everything like that, but you don't get 324 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do that unless you're run responsible. So 325 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: the Jets have to come out run responsible against a 326 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: trio of running backs that'll be involved in this game. 327 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: And the fact is when the Lions can get that 328 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: run game going in any capacity, they have a play 329 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: action threat now on the field and Jamison Williams, who 330 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: we've only seen him sprinkled in, but we know he 331 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: can do when he's ready to go, along with other 332 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: talented pass catchers as well. Shark can win vertically and 333 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: Monross Saint Brown can win at all three levels of 334 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: the field. So I think they understand going into this 335 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: game that they have to put Golf in a pass 336 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: pass pass situation, which is on the offense as well. 337 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: The Jets seemed to come out and score points in 338 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: this game and turn the lines into a past team, 339 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: which we know the lines are very good in that script, 340 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: but it'll allow the Jets front four to pin their 341 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: ears back, try to attack off make the ball come 342 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: out quicker because if he has too much time back there, 343 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: or they're a little unpredictable and they're more balanced run passed, 344 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: that's going to make life a lot tougher for the 345 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: guys on the back end, no matter how talented they are. 346 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: You know, kind of you you mentioned it before, just 347 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: how similar the pass have been with these two franchises. 348 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm just curious what what what December has been like 349 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: for Jets fans because I know here in Detroit, I mean, 350 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Ford Field has been crazy. It's been since twenty seventeen 351 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: this team has played meaningful football games in the month 352 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: of December. It's been a while for the Jets as well. 353 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: It's just how much have Jet fans enjoyed this kind 354 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: of stretch run now here? Because because I know here 355 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: in Detroit they've been just itching for a winner for 356 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: so long that to finally be playing these meaningful games 357 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: and have the playoffs in sight, it's been exciting here. 358 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Is there the same amount of excitement surrounding the Jets 359 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: now too? And and and what fans views is maybe 360 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: a really positive future moving forward? Absolutely, because you guys 361 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: know it, and these are two very loyal fan bases. 362 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: Jets fans and Lions fans have hung around with some hard, 363 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: hard time, some tough different whether it's drafting, coaching, just losing. 364 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: They've hung around. And the Jets have not hosted a 365 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: December game like this, you know, and really quite some time. 366 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: That's with the difference here, and I think you know, 367 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: Campbell and Salo when they get these jobs, you hear 368 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: them at the podium, and it's easy to believe in 369 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: them and buy into them and understand why players love them. 370 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the team has 371 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: to win games at some results business, right, it's the 372 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: results business. And the Jets kind of came out of 373 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: the gate. They lose at home against Baltimore, they look 374 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: really bad for the first three quarters in Cleveland before 375 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: a miracle win, and then when things start to turn 376 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: around after the Bengals game, everyone's looking around and going now, 377 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: the wins are here. Now, Salah's actions are matching his words, 378 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: and the fans are showing up to the games expecting 379 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: this team to fight hard for a playoff spot. And 380 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: I do think they're a step ahead of where a 381 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: lot of people expected them, maybe even themselves, as much 382 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: as they would never admit that, because a lot of 383 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: their impact players are twenty five and under. Quinnin Williams 384 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: turns twenty five this month, DJ reads twenty five, Sauce 385 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Gardner's twenty two. I mean, this is a really really 386 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: young team all across the roster, and they are learning 387 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: what these meaningful games are like what the environment is like. 388 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: So this is a huge test for them. But the 389 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: fans are so excited about it because you can get 390 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: right it's football is a weird business because as we 391 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: sit here with the baseball offseason, you see guys signing 392 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: ten year contracts and they're gonna be there for the decade. Football, 393 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: you have players that are there for a year, two 394 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: three years, besides quarterbacks and franchise players. I think Jets 395 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: fans feel an attachment to this core because they're on 396 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: rookie and second year contracts. They're gonna be here for 397 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: the next three years, and they just haven't had an 398 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: identity of a franchise like that maybe since to that 399 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: and ten when Rex Ryan was here. You know, it's 400 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: so funny when you talk about that, because it really 401 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: is the same situation here in Detroit with some of 402 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: the young core guys. You know, obviously, Jared Goff's a 403 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: little bit more of a veteran, but you're a'man Ross 404 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: Saint Brown's, you're DeAndre Swift's right, you're Aden Hutchinson's, Kirby 405 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Joseph's on defense is all young guys, and that's really 406 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: been the precipice of Detroit's you know turnaround this season 407 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: from one in six to six and seven. It's been 408 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: the play of those of young guys. So look, it's 409 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: two franchises that that seem to be on a very 410 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: similar path, and obviously they're on a crash course Sunday 411 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium, they both need to win to keep 412 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: their playoff hopes of lives. It should be a fun atmosphere. 413 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: Connor Rodgers, thank you so much for joining me. I 414 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: appreciate a great insight on everything, and I'll be I'll 415 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: make sure I stop buying Sello when I when I 416 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: get to MetLife on Sunday. Absolutely, I appreciate you guys 417 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: having me and obviously good luck and you know, these 418 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: are two really fun teams to watch, so I think 419 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: we're in for one hell of a game on Sunday, 420 00:19:53,960 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: I hope. So thanks, Connor, appreciate you. Welcome back to 421 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: the twenty in the Huddle podcast, and I am very 422 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: glad to be joined by quarterback Jared Golf. Jared, thanks 423 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: for joining me. As always, I've been wanting you on 424 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: for a few weeks and schedule wise, I know you're 425 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: such a busy man. But thanks for taking the time 426 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: of this week, and let's start with this. I know 427 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: you did your media session yesterday and you were asked 428 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: about what the last six weeks have been like, and 429 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: just a huge smile came onto your face, because what 430 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: have the last six weeks? Yea and Mike playing football 431 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: at Ford Field and just just playing some of your 432 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: best football. Yeah, I think it's it's a lot of fun. 433 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: It reminds you while you love playing the game, and 434 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: while you started playing the game and you want to 435 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: win and everyone wants to win, and when you're able 436 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: to do it with a group of guys like we 437 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: have and able to see the work payoff, there's nothing better. 438 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: And that's what we're able to enjoy right now. Still 439 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do in a lot 440 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: of games, but we've been doing a good job at 441 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: to this point. And what about just in this city. 442 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: I know you're a California kid, right, You grew up 443 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: in California, went to California, played with the Rams, obviously, 444 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: but when you came here, how long did it you 445 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: to realize that this is a football talent? Yeah, if 446 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: you were ever to get a winner in this city, 447 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: just how fun that would be to be a part of. Right, Yeah, 448 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean pretty quickly I learned it once I was 449 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: traded here, and I think I can feel, you know, 450 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: we're six and seven and we've won five, lost six, 451 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: and it's exciting, but you can feel what it would 452 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: possibly be like to be a ten eleven win team 453 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: and to be playoff bound. And sure we've got four 454 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: games often week could possibly do that, but the feeling 455 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: of that is so exciting and something that we want 456 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: to give our fans and give them as soon as possible. 457 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: What's been the biggest difference for you guys offensively over 458 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: the last six weeks that have really kind of turned 459 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: this thing around it. You guys have been good really 460 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: all year offensively, but you've turned it into winning football 461 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: the last six weeks. What in your mind, when when 462 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: you look at the totality of the last six weeks, 463 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: has been the biggest difference you think for you guys, 464 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: I think we've we've found our identity a bit both 465 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: in the run game in the past game, and you know, 466 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: we've certainly gotten guys healthy. That's helped and been a 467 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: huge help on the outside, and I think up front, 468 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: those guys up front are playing so dang well right now, 469 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: and we can kind of do a lot of things 470 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of teams can't because of that. You know, 471 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: we can put Pina in motion like you saw last week. 472 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: We can we can pull pin Ay, we can move 473 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: Decker around, we can do stuff with our center, with 474 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Frank and Joan and all these guys, we can we 475 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: can do certain things that a lot of teams can't. 476 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: And teams have to defend a lot right now with 477 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: those guys ability up front. How much do you pinch 478 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: yourself playing behind those guys? I mean, because arguably you've 479 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: got four Pro Bowl caliber players up there, and Evan 480 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: Brown is just playing pretty good football as well too. 481 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: When you watch games around league, you maybe see some 482 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: of the punishment some of these quarterbacks take. Do you 483 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: just pinch yourself and be like, Wow, this is pretty sweet? 484 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: Is this every week? It is pretty sweet? And I 485 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: don't I don't take it for granted because I've I've 486 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: been on the other side of it, and We've We've 487 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: got a really good group right now, and I make 488 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: sure those guys know how much I appreciate them, and 489 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: um that there are guys around the league who are 490 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: getting hit quite a bit and right now we're not 491 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: one of them. Okay, serious question. Then the more important, 492 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: the bigger Christmas gift this year? Is it to your 493 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: fiance Kristen or is it to those guys along the 494 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: offensive line? And how much time do you dedicate for 495 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: the Christmas skit? I know it's an important thing. I 496 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on it this year, did 497 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: you really I did. I won't spoil it. I'll probably 498 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: give it to him next week. But for cost wise, 499 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: their's is more expensive than Kristen's for sure. Wow, they're 500 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: going to be pretty excited about it. Huh they will, 501 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: I hope. So and let's talk about the wide receiver 502 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: core too, because I think that's a big part of 503 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: this too. Jared is is, Look, you guys had a 504 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: lot of injuries early on, Jamo was kind of working 505 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: his way back. You had to patch work some stuff 506 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: and look, credit to guys like Calif Raymon, right and 507 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm rape kind of keeping it all together, you know. 508 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: But now you've got dj chart back healthy, Jamo's coming 509 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: into the mix. So so what does that allow you 510 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: guys to do or how does that affect the defense 511 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: when you've got now your full complement of guys. Yeah, well, 512 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: certainly those two guys DJ and Jamison can stretch a 513 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: defense and we've shown that in the last couple of 514 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: weeks with both of them. You know, they can catch 515 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: balls over the top and teams are gonna have to 516 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: respect that now and it will open everything else up 517 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: and every other out of our offense. But yeah, just 518 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: getting all everyone back healthy, it changes, it changes what 519 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: you're able to do, and it allows guys to come 520 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: in fresh and you know, you have four or five guys, 521 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: you have a rotation now and it's not like you know, 522 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks there we had you know, TK, 523 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: Saint and a Cliff and it was just those three 524 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: safety staffs. Yeah, and you know those gonna get they 525 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: worn down. And Clice plant spush teams and t K's 526 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: plans spush team. So it helps to have a full 527 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: stable guys that are complimentary of each other. All right, 528 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: let's flip the script a little bit. Let's talk about 529 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: the Jets, because when you look at this matchup, at 530 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: least to me, it's it's strength on strength, right, your 531 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: offense against their defense. You just look at some of 532 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: the number sixth in points allowed, third in total defense, 533 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: their fourth against the pass. They have the fourth most 534 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: sacks thirty nine. I mean, it's a it's a it's 535 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: a pretty good unit over there. What jumps out to 536 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: you when you throw on the tape and started preparing 537 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, they're they're really good at every level. 538 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: Their their D line starts there with them, and it 539 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: always kind of has with SALI. I think back to 540 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: when I played them in San Francisco and that D 541 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: line was always so good, always so many first rounders 542 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: up there, and always so many guys I can get 543 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: after the quarterback, and then they kind of build from 544 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: their backwards. But um, C J. Mosley is really good. 545 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: Their secondary is really good. I played against I played 546 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: with LaMarcus Joyner in LA for a long time. He's 547 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: a great player. The corner they got Sauce is a 548 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: good player. TJ. Reid, I think is a really underrated 549 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: corner I played against San Francisco. UM, So yeah, they've 550 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: got They've got guys at every level that I've played 551 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: for a long time and understand what it looks like. 552 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: And um they're a tough, formidable defense coverage wise, do 553 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: they mix it up pretty well? Do they do one 554 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: predominantly more than the other? They zone or man or 555 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: or they pretty much mix it up. They do mix 556 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: it up. They do mix it up, and I think 557 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: they keep it fairly simple, and it's kind of the 558 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: way they've they've done it is is pass, rush, get 559 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: home and uh, you know, cover and and it's it is. 560 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: It is fairly simple, but it's very effective. It's it's 561 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: very effective and they do a good job with it. 562 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about I'm on Russ Saint 563 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: Brown a little bit because the man vers zone question 564 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: is is you know, obviously when you have when you 565 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: play a team with a lot of zone, like that 566 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: guy in the slot, right, that guy that could find 567 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: those little areas, that that crafty slot receiver. But when 568 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: you play man, he's just as good in that too, 569 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: Like he can beat a guy one on one two. 570 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 1: So what are the benefits of having a guy like that? 571 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: It really doesn't matter what a defense throws at Alman 572 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: rat It seems like he can kind of match up 573 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: well against that. Is that accurate? Yeah? I would agree. Yeah, 574 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: he's really good in zone, and then he's he's able 575 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: to separate man and um, it's a rare combination for 576 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: a guy. And I think he's come into his own 577 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: this year and everyone kind of see what he's made of. 578 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: And he's still getting better and still growing and the 579 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: sky's the limit for him. But yeah, he's a guy 580 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: that that I love throwing too, and um gets himself 581 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: open pretty well. So you've been to MetLife maybe, just 582 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: what does that stadium like? What's that like? It sounds 583 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: like forty degrees not so much weather, but can't get 584 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: windy in there? A wind tunnel. Yeah, it was with 585 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: the Giants. I know you played well in New York. Yeah, 586 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: it was very windy that game. And I think that 587 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: took a took an account how we had to play 588 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: that game. You know, there was a little bit less 589 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: throwing the ball down the field, a little bit more 590 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: taking care of the ball and making them you know, 591 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: hopefully make the mistakes that they did make and playing 592 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: good defense. And we did and we won that game 593 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: pretty handidly. But um, we'll see what it goes like 594 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: this week. It looks fine right now, but we will 595 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: see four rushing touchdowns in that game. How fun is 596 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: that as a quarterback to just turn around and get 597 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: him to those guys. And I mean, obviously you want 598 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: to sling it around and three hundred thirty and three 599 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: touchdowns is great FedEx Player of the Week through the air. 600 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be nice too to just be able 601 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: to turn around to hand the ball off. It is nice. 602 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: I like just scoring points. At this point in my career. 603 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable with, uh, handing the ball off and 604 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: scoring four touchdowns there, and then I'm okay with that 605 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: because I know I'll get mine at some point. You 606 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: take a few less hits that way too. Eat All right, 607 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: before we close, I want to ask about Ben Johnson 608 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: because obviously I think he's a big catalyst to to 609 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: kind of where you guys have gone offensively and your relationship. 610 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: We talked to him on Thursday and he says it's 611 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: as close as it's ever been that that you know, 612 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: you guys are just such a locked step. Just what 613 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: is he meant to you? And how important has he 614 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: been to this offense? Is you know, getting to to 615 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: this point? Yeah, I mean he's the catalyst. You know, 616 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: he's he's the guy who's uh, you know, driving the 617 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: ship there offensively and um, he means more to me 618 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: than anything. I mean, it's been a lot of fun 619 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: growing with him and getting to know him and uh 620 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: like he like he said, we are as close as 621 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: we've been and um see the game very similarly now. 622 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: And I think developing our identity, like I mentioned, over 623 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: these past six weeks has kind of formed that and 624 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: allowed us to really know what we're trying to attack 625 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: and think think similarly. Um. So, yeah, we were in 626 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: a really good place him and I and continue to 627 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: grow there. Jarrett, it looks like you're just you're having 628 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: fun playing football. I mean, it just looks like when 629 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: I will watch you, just the way you interact with 630 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: the guys, I mean, the celebrations, the sideline, the stuff 631 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: with Dan and and and Ben, You're just you look 632 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: like this is a fun time for you. It is fun. 633 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. Yeah, it's been fun. Well, it's a 634 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: big game obviously on Sunday. And that's why you play 635 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: the games, right, They're playing meaningful games in the month 636 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: of December. Keep it rolling. You're playing some good football. 637 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: You guys got a good test. But thanks for joining me, 638 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: real appreciate appreciate it, of course, welcome back. To the twenty. 639 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: In the Huddle podcast, it is now time for the 640 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: bet MGM key matchups, and joining me this week is 641 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: Michael O'Hara. I couldn't have Pj's joined me the last 642 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but I couldn't have PJ on. Pj's 643 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: from New York. Pj's a Jets fan. They would be 644 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: a bias in this segment. And plus, I like talking 645 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame. I'm only here because he's 646 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: a Homer. No, not at all. What an insult. You 647 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: are here because you are Michael O'Hara. Well, I appreciate, 648 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: and Mike, you know what we do. You've done this 649 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: segment before. We basically um talked about five key matchups, 650 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: and let's start with this one. Quinn and Williams. They're 651 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: really talented defensive tackle versus Jonah Jackson company. You know 652 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: it'll be Jonah Jackson, it could be um Evan Brown 653 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: and whoever else they rotate there at the right guard spot. 654 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: But to me, that interior of the of the Detroit 655 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: offensive line is really going to be tested with Quinn absolutely. 656 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: The issue if for him is he going to play Sunday? Yeah, Look, 657 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: he's got eleven sacks on the season. He got two 658 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: of those in the first quarter and a half of 659 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: their last game. I went out with a calf injury 660 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: and didn't come back, and to me, that's that's not 661 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: a good sign. And you know, if you don't come 662 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: back to me, that tells me that there's something especially 663 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: as a team that's like the Detroit Lions fighting for 664 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: a playoff spot. Didn't practice Wednesday either. Robert Sala said 665 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: he's fifty fifty at this point to play. Well, that 666 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: sounds it sounds hopeful to be because I listened, just 667 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: like you to listen to their interview, and it didn't 668 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: sound good. It didn't didn't. He's a tremendous player. You know, 669 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys who look he just looks 670 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: so big, but he's six three three h three. That's 671 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: that's not huge for inside inside lineman, but god, the 672 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: way he plays, it's just just an absolute terror. Drafted 673 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: third overall out of Alabama of course where else, right, 674 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: but just a tremendous player. The Lions are better off 675 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: without him playing. But you look Jonah Jackson, those that 676 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: that offensive line has become this this season. Everything everybody 677 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: projected it to be even with the even with the injuries. Look, 678 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: they've given up what two sacks in the last two 679 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: games combined. They can do almost anything they want offensively, 680 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: They got room to maneuver. I think it's a look, 681 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: it's it's a tough let's just assume that Quinnon Williams 682 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: is going to play. That's a tough battle, but it's 683 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: one of the Lions are built the battle. Yeah, his 684 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: eleven sacks tied with Chris Jones for legally, but if 685 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: you look at just the pass rush reps, I mean, 686 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: Chris Jones has had so many more Quinn Williams. So 687 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: it's that impact, right, And any quarterback will tell you. 688 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: We've talked about this before, is that that pressure up 689 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: the middle is the worst for quarterbacks. I mean, it's 690 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: the quickest way to the quarterback and it just doesn't 691 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: allow them to step up. And I think his pressure 692 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: and the way he plays allows those guys on the 693 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: edge to do what they do. I mean, they have 694 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: thirty nine sacks as a team, that's fourth most in 695 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. But I think a lot of it is 696 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: because of Quinn and Williams and that the quarterbacks can't 697 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: step up because he's so productive in the middle. Oh absolutely, 698 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: And I like you said, anytime that there's pressure in 699 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks face, it really changes everything. Yeah, he does 700 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: among defensive tackles, Williams's first and sacks, pressure percentage, sack percentage. 701 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he is just really, really productive. But when 702 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: you look at Jonah Jackson and Evan Brown zero sacks 703 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: allowed all season between those two blinds. Hope they get 704 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: Evan Brown back. I think that'd be a big boost 705 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: for them. Look, they've gone right down the list of backups, right, 706 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: they played every guard on the roster, I think, and 707 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: then something we went out and god, are you doing 708 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: anything Sunday? But look, that's it's Look, it's a testimony 709 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: to the players themselves and the coaching staff too, every 710 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. All right, let's let's switch gears, a 711 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: little switch switch pages. Let's go. You know their talented 712 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver, Garrett Wilson, Um, you know rookie draft pick 713 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: this year, it's having a terrific season. First, another guy 714 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: who's having a terrific season for the Detroit Lions, Jeff 715 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: Oku to the cornerback third year, and Mike it's really 716 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: good to see Jeff, you know, living up to you know, 717 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: the hype that was there when he was the number 718 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: three over overall pick. And now, look, he didn't select himself, right, right, 719 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with with being the number 720 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: three overall pick. But there's pressure that comes when with 721 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: that being a top five pick. And obviously he was 722 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: derailed his first two years by injuries. But boy, he's 723 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: been healthy this year and he plays a physical brand 724 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: of well. I think he brings something a little bit 725 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: different to this defense when when he's healthy and helmet, 726 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: I would hesitate to stretch out and catch in the 727 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: area because he's out there to do some damage. And 728 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: he does it. He really does. Even last week he 729 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: played I think half the stamps or whatever it was 730 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: because he had the flu or whatever it was, you know, 731 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: whatever it was going around one. But but I bet 732 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: you he'll he'll come out this week and just heck 733 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: on wheels. You really will. And you look, you look 734 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: at Wilson. I mean he's their guy and wide receiver. 735 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm over one hundred targets, sixty three catches, eight hundred 736 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: and sixty eight yards, four touchdowns, But I think the 737 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: big one to me is three receptions of fifty plus yards. 738 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: That's tied for the most in the NFL. So like, 739 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: when they need a big play, and this isn't a 740 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Jets team that offensively is not the better teams, but 741 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: so so when they need that big play, when they 742 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: and when they get them, typically it's with Wilson. I 743 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: think that's got to be the big thing with Jeff 744 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: is just don't don't allow that big play. No, I 745 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: would agree with them, earn it and and and subtle down. 746 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: This week too, he got some early penalties in the game. 747 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: Left the line said five penalties in the first quarter, 748 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: and that seemed like he had all of them, but 749 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: he really didn't. But yeah, just play the game, let 750 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: the game come to you, and he's That's what he's 751 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: done all season. I think that wasn't an abnormal performance 752 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: for him last week. But just play the game, let 753 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: it come to you, and he'll he'll take care of it. 754 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: All right. Let's go. Let's slip over and talk about 755 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: Detroit wide receiver a'm ross Saint Brown, who's been come 756 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: on terrific. He's I think he's one of the top 757 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: ten wide receivers in the NFL already in a second season, 758 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: and he's going to be facing their nickel corner, Michael Carter, 759 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: who's been playing pretty well in his own er. He's 760 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: got a couple interceptions, he's only allowed one touchdown all year. 761 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: But when you look at Saint Brown, eighty two catches, 762 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: Mike eight yards, he could go. He could get a 763 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: thousand yards this week, six touchdowns. I don't think it's 764 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: out of the realm possibility that you're one hundred catch, 765 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: thousand yard, ten touchdown guy over the next you know, 766 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: if he can get a few more over the next 767 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: four weeks, yeah, I think the ten would be a stretch. 768 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: The other two I can really really see him get enough. 769 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: Thing about him to me is that the efficiency he 770 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: plays with. If you throw him the ball, it doesn't 771 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: hit the ground very often he'll get For example, he 772 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: had a stretch five weeks ago. For those next four games, 773 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: he had forty one targets thirty seven catches. That's that 774 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. It really doesn't know. I know he's 775 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: playing in the slot and he's a little closer to 776 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback and has you get more chances at true catches. 777 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: But that is production, and I like that you mentioned 778 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: the slot because we talked about how good this team is, 779 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: right in the thirty nine sacks being fourth Quinnin Williams 780 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: at pressure up the middle. To me, when you play 781 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: a team like the Jets, who are so good defensively, 782 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: especially up front, can get after the quarterback, who's the 783 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: quarterback's best friend, that quick passing gun, right that slot 784 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: guy is the closest guy to him. So like to me, 785 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: this week, this is an Alman Ross Saint Brown type 786 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: of game. Um, you know you're gonna want to get 787 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: the ball out of Jared goss hands. It's gonna be quick, 788 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: get some one on one matchups with with Michael Carter, 789 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: and you gotta like Saint Brown and in that matchup. 790 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: And so I could see him being targeted ten plus 791 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: time this week just because I bet the game plan 792 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: is going to be to try to get the ball 793 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: out of Jared's hands. Well, there's other thing too. He's 794 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: got seven career runs for eighty nine yards, so there's 795 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot of things he can do. And for those 796 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: of you who don't who follow all of the stuff 797 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: he blocks, he blocks, he blocks downfield, he blocks up 798 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. This is just an all around 799 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: football player. When you talk for to a guy as 800 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: a ballplayer, that's an ultimate comment. And I think he's 801 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: a ballplayer. We're a great pick by Bright Holmes. Absolutely 802 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Wow, he's been good. All right. Let's 803 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about a key one I think, and this 804 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: one is Look head coach Robert Selah, right, it's his 805 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,479 Speaker 1: defense that he brought up there. He's the defensive guy 806 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: versus Ben Johnson, Lions offensive coordinator. When you just look 807 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: at the numbers, I mean, these teams offensively Detroit fifth 808 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: best in points scored, fourth in total offense, eleventh and 809 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: rushing and seventh in passing. But when you look at 810 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: the Jets defense, I mean the numbers are almost similar 811 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: across the board. Six in points allowed, third in total defense, 812 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: thirteen and rushing in fourth, best passing defense in the league. 813 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: What a matchup against really strength on strength this week? 814 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: This is a classes off moment, young man. That the 815 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: statistic that means the most to be about Robert Salah 816 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: is Thus they were two and fourteen two years ago, 817 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: four and thirteen last year, they've already won seven games. Yeah, 818 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: they're better offer right now than they were the last 819 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: two years combined. He's brought something to that team, to 820 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: that franchise that they've been lacking. I think it's about 821 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: eleven years without a playoff birth. The fact that they're 822 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: seven and seven and six, yeah, and knocking on the 823 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: door right now is a tribute to coaching. I see 824 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: PJ behind there lifting his arms about that. He's excited 825 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: about Salin's well, he's easily exciting. But you can say 826 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: the same thing about Dan Campbellite. I mean what he's 827 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: done and look, Ben Johnson, I think it's been a 828 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: big part of that too, with what he's brought over 829 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: the last year and a half to this Lions offense 830 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: and the thirty nine sacks which we talked about, but 831 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: Detroit only nineteen sacks again like strength strength, that's the 832 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: third fewest in the NFL. Um And Robert Salo was 833 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: asked about Detroit on Wednesday in his press conference in 834 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: New York, and you know what makes that offensive good? 835 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: The first thing he said was that offensive line. Yeah, 836 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: they he said, Detroit and Philadelphia you could argue as 837 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: the best offensive line in football. That's a pretty good 838 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: compliment coming from a defensive guy like that. He said 839 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: the Detroit's offensive line is playing so well that they're 840 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: making Jared Golf look like he's playing seven on seven, 841 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: which I thought it was a great line. Absolutely, and 842 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: they are. And so that's why this is such a 843 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: key matchup to me is what will Solid dial up 844 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: to counteract Detroit? Will Willie Blitz? Will he just go 845 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: with his guys um and rush for because they've been 846 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 1: so productive, but he hasn't faced an offensive line. Price 847 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: could is this one? Oh? I bet you this. I 848 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: bet you. These two coaches, the coordinator in the head 849 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: coach love a game like this. I been throughout their plotting. 850 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: It's like playing in the neighborhood bully or something. Yeah, 851 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: I got you a little chess match. Huh. Absolutely. You know. 852 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: Ben one other thing too, and I think it was 853 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: forget exactly who set up. They were talking about what 854 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: they liked about what he did in the last week's 855 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: game creatively, and he said creative running players. You don't 856 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: hear that very often, really doesn't. Usually the run, it's 857 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,959 Speaker 1: the flea flicker stuff like that. But the creative running 858 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: attack was what really was really stood out. Yeah. Ben 859 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: Johnson has been great all year long, and what will 860 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: we have dialed up this week. This is this is 861 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: probably the best defensive lines of face. I think it's 862 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: been ole. Name should be Franklin Ben Franklin Johnson for 863 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,959 Speaker 1: all the creative stuff he does. All right, let's Fins 864 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: finished with this one, Mike, and it's their cornerback, Sauce Gardner, 865 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: the number four overall pick, who has been terrific. It 866 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: probably isn't even a good word to say. I think 867 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: he's the rookie of the year. I think Aidan Hutchinson's 868 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: right there kind of on his heels, but I think 869 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: it's Sauce Gardeners to lose. Just so you could argue 870 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: that he's the best corner in football and he's a rookie. 871 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys coming to the league and 872 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: you say they're already probably the best at their position. 873 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: Not a lot a lot of guys. You can say 874 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: that about six three, two hundred pound physical I mean 875 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: he shuts down the left side of the field. Yeah, No, 876 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: I agree with you one thing about it. He's one 877 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: of our own here too. Yeah. Played at King High 878 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: School in Detroit over on the east side and just 879 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: also played wide receiver there too. Just a terrific athlete, 880 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: went down to Cincinnati and got you know, was one 881 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: of those you know, those core guys who got them 882 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: into the championship tournament last year. So just he's been 883 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: good at everything he's done at every level he's done it. Then, 884 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: really can you say it's no surprise. It's always a 885 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: little surprise when somebody comes out of the shoot the 886 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: way he has been boy for a fourth pick overall, 887 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: what a player. And that matchup verse Jamison Williams and 888 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: you could really use any of the Lions wide receivers 889 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,959 Speaker 1: because Sauce plays the left side. So I'm sure Ben 890 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: will try to rotate, you know, guys around get matchups 891 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: over against dj Read. But dj Read's pretty good on 892 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: the other side as well, um sixth best in coverage 893 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: grade for by Pro Football Focus at dj Read on 894 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: the other side, So you know, it's a really good matchup. 895 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: But when when you got Jamison Williams against Sauce Gardner, 896 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that'll be a terrific matchup. Just because of 897 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: Jamo speed. You know, we started to see him, you know, 898 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: play a little bit more last week obviously had the 899 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: forty one yard touched on kind of a busted coverage, 900 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: but you started. I think fans got a chance to 901 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: see the speed, and it's it's rare speed he's got. 902 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: It's a different kind of speed too. It's you know, 903 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 1: he's a little bit longer. He's a long strider. Doesn't 904 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: look like he's running hard when he is. And so 905 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's something Sauce we'll have to, um, you know, 906 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: get accustomed to. But just thrown at at Gardner this 907 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: year forty four point one for completion percentage. They're thrown 908 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: on fifty nine times. They've completed twenty six up him, Mike, 909 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: that's it. And he's a rookie. They have a forty 910 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: eight point eight faster rating when opposing teams try to 911 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: throw at Sauce Gardner. I mean, he's just he's been terrific. 912 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: Well just you know, put a guy over there, you 913 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: don't care if he catches the ball that everybody else. 914 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: And that's why that we know when we talked about 915 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: Michael Carter and I'm on ross at ground, really, I 916 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: think because Sauce is so good at taking away the 917 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: team's guy whoever lines up over there on that left side, 918 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: he's so good and now he doesn't really travel um 919 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: you know with the opponents number one guy, he plays 920 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: that left side, so you can scheme it a little 921 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: bit and try to get some guys away from him. 922 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: But when you got somebody lined up over there that 923 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: they're not going to see the football very often. And 924 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: so we'll see if if Jamo can maybe you know, 925 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: get on top of them, can can make that big 926 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: play if they're ever matched up against US. I think 927 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: there's a fun matchup to watch, yea. And the great 928 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: thing about this matchup or talking about it, is this 929 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: right out there. You can see it, you know, yeah, 930 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: like look different blocking schemes and all that, but they 931 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: don't they're not readily discernible by you know, the mirror 932 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: mortals like myself. But watch you know, the passing game 933 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: and all that some of that stuff. It's fun because 934 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: you can see it, you know, Yeah, is it just 935 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: it develops before your own eyes. Well, it's a big 936 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: one for both teams absolutely, lines six and seven. You know, 937 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: they think they got to win out to get a 938 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: shot in the NFC. The Jets are seven at six. 939 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, they've got a tough schedule remaining. So this 940 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: is a big one for for for both these teams. 941 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: On Sunday, well, Robert Salas said, these last four games 942 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: are the start of the playoffs, and so let we'll 943 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: call out the final four two teams in playoff mode 944 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: in December. Should be fun in New York. That's the 945 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: bet MGM key matchup segment. Thank you guys for joining me. Obviously, 946 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: PJ Clark and I will be in New York having 947 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: a podcast after the game, and what we hope is 948 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: Alliance of Victory