1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: I'm strong and Getty enough he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: President Trump back in battleground Pennsylvania today, touring a Mack 5 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: truck facility in Lehigh County and announcing twenty six hundred 6 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: new manufacturing jobs in the Keystone state. President also touting 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: nineteen million barrels of oil flowed out of the Strait 8 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: of Hormuz yesterday while telling PBS Americans should support an 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: eighty billion dollars supplemental funding package for the war because quote, 10 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, that's not costing 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: much at all. 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: That's not it, O'Keefe. So that is not the clip 13 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: that I chose. That was actually about the war in Iran, 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: which would have fit well with talking with Mike Lyons 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: because his expertise is the military. Welcome Mike Lions to 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: the Armstrong and Getty Show. 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: Hey, Jack, thanks for having me. 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: Wan. I do want to talk about your piece in 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: real clear defense about the twenty thousand dollars drone that 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: should wake up the Pentagon, because that sounds really, really interesting. 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: But before we get to that, I was just reading 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: at least one piece in the Wall Street Journal where 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: they were comfortable declaring that we lost this war, and 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: certainly that other Iranians feel like they want it. Is 25 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: there a way there that at West Point or you know, 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: those of you in college classes who'd study war, determine 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: a win versus a loss? And at what point do 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: you determine that? 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 5: Well, if you look at war as an extension of 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: foreign policy, you know, the warfare, the operational success that 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: we have here, did that give the president the country 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: the leverage to negotiate what we're considered to be. 33 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: Favorable for us? 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: Right now? It is looking like that that's just not 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 5: the case. The operational success, the military success was clear 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 5: on the ground, given what's been destroyed of the Ranian Navy, 37 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 5: their capability to manufacture, we're fighting capability going forward. However, 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 5: what's the political outcome of this? You know, the best 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 5: comparison is Vietnam. Right, We've never really lost the battle 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 5: on the ground at Vietnam. However, we end up losing 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 5: that from a strategic perspective. So that the story is 42 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: not out there yet, it hasn't been told, but you know, 43 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 5: I think the can's been kicked down the road right now. 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: And the question is whether or not the military did 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: gave the president the leverage. I think we did give 46 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 5: the president the leverage you needed to negotiate harder, But 47 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 5: it doesn't look like that's the outcome. 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: So it seems to me most people left right and 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: center don't like this deal. But we've had a few 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: people who say, and this might be where Trump is, 51 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: you got to live in the real world where we 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: are today with a possible worldwide recession if we keep 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: the Straight closed, and what it's doing to the price 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: of oil and this and that, and what it would 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: take for the military to get to our objectives at 56 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: this point? Is this the smart thing to do now? 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: So looking at that, would it have been possible for 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: us to force open the Straight or hormones, What would 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: that have looked like if we had decided to go 60 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: that far. 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 5: Well, it would have looked like what it did back 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 5: in the eighties when we had when we ran that 63 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 5: mission with regard to open ap the strait and keeping 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 5: it open. Then it's not that it was impossible. Then 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 5: what was that ernest will that mission was called? We 66 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 5: had over two hundred and fifty tankers that went through 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: that environment with navy escorts, and maybe perhaps we don't 68 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 5: have those assets there right now. We really don't have 69 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 5: the destroyers, that we don't have the same level of 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: navy that we had, but that would have been possible. 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: I mean, this is a good example of while you 72 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: can defeat the Ranians military, atleast think their navy, destroy 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 5: their capability, take away their nuclear future. The bottom line 74 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 5: is they still have geography on their side, and that 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 5: geography is the Straits, and with coastal batteries and mind 76 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 5: and fast moving both, they live in the crevices and 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: they can use asymmetric warfare to threaten it. I like 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 5: that expression of it. Yeah, I want to live in 79 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 5: the real world too. But to all of a sudden 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: it just decide when it's not going to play anymore. 81 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 5: After starting this seems like it's a little unfinished as well, 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 5: and again just really kicks the can down the road 83 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 5: with regard to solving this problem. 84 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: How troubled are you by leaving their rocket making capability 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: and some of their rockets, I don't know. I remember 86 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: the big journalistic piece that came out that said they 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: still had whatever it was, seventy percent of their rocket capability. 88 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: Are you okay with leaving them with that and the 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: threat that they may someday overwhelm the iron dome system 90 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: there in Israel? 91 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: Well, I'm not sure it's that high. They have it 92 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: on their mobile tracks. But let's be clear, they're ballistic 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 5: missile case ability is offensive. You know, when the President 94 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 5: made that common, it's like, oh, so pay for them 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 5: to have some offensive ballistic missiles. 96 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely not, those. 97 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 5: Are You're not you know, if they ever had patriot 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 5: missiles or air defense systems, which is what the market's 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 5: going to boom for, especially with what we see in 100 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: Europe and Ukraine and Russia right now, there's going to 101 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 5: be you know, if you're investing air defense stocks because 102 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 5: Androil and these companies that make those missiles or are 103 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 5: going through the roof, they're going not going to be. 104 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: Able to manufacture them. 105 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 5: But but again, the missiles that the Raneans have are offensives. 106 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: They're not designed to protect them. They're they're they they're 107 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 5: not used for deterrence. They're used to terrain terror on 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 5: their enemies. And so I'm really concerned with that. Mike 109 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 5: POMPEII has been talking about that since even Secretary of 110 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 5: State in the first Trump administration. This whole thing is 111 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: it's all tied together, the ballistic missiles with the nuclear 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 5: capability because because you have one thing to have a 113 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 5: new because I think, to deliver it, and those ballistic 114 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: missiles allow them to do both. 115 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: I know some of this stuff is getting into kind 116 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: of philosophical stuff as opposed to just strict military strategy 117 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 2: stuff that you're now expert with. But like Joe and 118 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: I have been saying for a while, if Iran announced 119 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: they have a nuclear bomb and they have when, that 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: would be one of the biggest days in world history, 121 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't it. 122 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, because of their capability to deliver it. 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 5: And you know it's one thing, and yeah, exactly, and 124 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 5: how they could deliver it and what you know, they're 125 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: not putting on the back of a Toyota pickup truck 126 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 5: and pushing it across the border. If they're they're going 127 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: to launch it at Israel is what they would do. 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 5: They would they would do it without recourse. I you know, we, 129 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 5: as I said a few months ago, the Ranis never 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 5: thought we would do what we did. They never thought 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 5: we would do epicure. They never thought we would do that. Well, 132 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: that looks like we're not going to finish it. And 133 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: I think that's, you know, to their advantage. We've we've 134 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: become we reverted back to self deterrence again, and I 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 5: think that's an issue. But sure, the North Koreans have 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 5: a nuclear capability. We watched that happen and we all 137 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: put our hands in o him said, boy, look at that. 138 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: And many presidents just let that go as well. 139 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 4: They didn't. 140 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 5: They didn't do anything about it, trying to at least 141 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 5: keep them in a box. But there's no country that's 142 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 5: going to keep the Ranians in the box. 143 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: Right And while I really hate that North Korea has 144 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: a weapon, he doesn't every day have you know, his 145 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: people in the street chanting death to you know, whatever 146 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: little country nearby him in the way that the Uranians do, 147 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: their intention and their ability coming together would be horrifying. 148 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: One of the way way to get to your drone 149 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: piece today maybe would be to look at where Russian 150 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: Ukraine are right now. I just I'm not following it 151 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: as closely as I used to, and I just keep 152 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: seeing headlines that Ukraine's on the front foot. 153 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, they are as you know, we also that video 154 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 5: is it last week of hitting and oil refinedly blowing 155 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 5: the top of it. I mean, that's ten miles outside 156 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 5: of Moscow, and you know that battle has become much 157 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: more closer to home there. But they're gaining some ground 158 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 5: in the domebath in that region there, which is now 159 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: virtually destroyed. Anyway, if you'll see videos of the drowne 160 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 5: tethers and the like I mean, and the land mines 161 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 5: that have been that have been. 162 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: Buried there, and they like that. 163 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 5: It's it's a perroic victory at this point because the 164 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: ground is virtually untenable. 165 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: But drone warfare is now the name of the game. 166 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: And what my piece is that there to be published 167 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: tomorrow Record Defense just talks about we got a little 168 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: bit of a wake up call with that Apache getting 169 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: shot down with a drone from from the Iranians who 170 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 5: can still swarm them. They can still take a twenty 171 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: thousand dollars drone and had a thirty million dollar helicopter 172 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 5: by just swarming at it, just loitering until it finds 173 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 5: the target. 174 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: But then the second component. 175 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 5: To that is the fact that it was picked a 176 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: drone ends up rescuing you know, autonomous vehicle ends up 177 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 5: rescuing the pilots in the in the in the water 178 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: as well. Uh, So that we're in a new whole 179 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 5: new state of warfare right now. But we need to 180 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 5: get you know, the economics again straight with regard to 181 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 5: this where irn assists right now with their military capabilities 182 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: like in between what I'll call the bubbles, and that's this, 183 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 5: you know, the there's nothing on that Apache that could 184 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 5: have seen that drone coming because we were too busy 185 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 5: trying to that patchy was designed to take out tanks 186 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: in eastern western Europe. So we've got to gain more 187 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: capability to make sure that these autonomous systems don't live 188 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 5: inside the wire and autonomously and asymmetrical takeout our capability. 189 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: So, as you wrote in your piece, the twenty thousand 190 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,119 Speaker 2: drone that should wake up the Pentagon when that Apache 191 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: went down. That's a roughly twenty thousand dollars drone taking 192 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: down a roughly thirty million dollar helicopter. Yeah, obviously you 193 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: can't keep that up very long. 194 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: No, And it was the same argument that was made 195 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: months ago when our Patriot missiles were taking out the 196 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 5: ballistic missiles coming from Iran's and the same thing with 197 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: Ukraine and Russia. The one hundred thousand dollars ballistic missile 198 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: taken out by a four to five, the six million 199 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 5: dollar Patriot missiles in some cases the Navy Air defense systems, 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 5: those AC threes, they are thirty and four a million 201 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 5: dollar rockets, one at a time. 202 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: At one shot. 203 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 5: So because they're designed to protect the carrier, they're they're 204 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 5: they're not necessarily designed to take out one one missile 205 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: at of time. So so again the economics of this 206 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 5: doesn't work, and we're going to have to be faster, 207 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 5: procure better and developed systems that are gonna that are 208 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 5: going to take out these autonomous threats that are going 209 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 5: to do nothing more than increase and I'm more concerned 210 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: about them even here in the United States. Look at 211 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: that situation last week with the UFC fight right like 212 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 5: a drone swarm here, I look at the stadium. You know, 213 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 5: we're we have to develop not only things for the military. 214 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 5: I was at West Point working with a bunch of 215 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 5: cadads and they're they're developing these projects that will help 216 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: protect their platoons for drones. I look at them and 217 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 5: says we need to develop things to protect stadiums from 218 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 5: drone swarms because that's that's the next threat. 219 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: That's what's coming here. 220 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: It's going to happen, whether it's a terrorist attack or 221 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: some you know, militia group on the left or the 222 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: right or whatever is going to pull off some sort 223 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: of drone head. That's going to really horrify people. There's 224 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 2: some things psychologically. I've watched a lot of these videos 225 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: where these the Russians are out in the field and 226 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: they hear the drones coming and they start running and 227 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: the drones catch up to them and you hear them. 228 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: There's something psychologically more terrifying about that than if it 229 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: was a guide chasing you with a gun. 230 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, because you know it's going to hit. 231 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 5: You know it's not going to stop. You know that, 232 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 5: it's just your time is up. I mean, it's really 233 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 5: you know, I guess in combat, the way to go 234 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: is just you know that single bullet. Who you know, 235 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: Patton talks about that about getting killed in combat, But 236 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: that's not the case anymore. You're going to see something 237 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 5: loiter around and mess with your head before it finally 238 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: decides to take you out. 239 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad to hear that you and the military 240 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: circles who thing can talk about these things are talking 241 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: about it as just like domestic protection also, because that 242 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: is clearly the future. 243 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, due use, I think, is what's happening here. 244 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 5: And you know, I'm working a lot more with innovative 245 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: startup companies now to see not only help protect soldiers 246 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 5: on the battlefield, but what's that capability going to do 247 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 5: to protect our stadiums and protect crowds. And I think 248 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 5: that's the next threat, whether we're going to live with 249 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 5: it or not. Like everything else, it's where the future is. 250 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: Before I let you go, is there a mood among 251 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: you guys who text and tweet and talk to each other, 252 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: of a little bit of despair for losing a war? 253 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Or where are you on this now? 254 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 5: I think it's the same. I don't want to call 255 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 5: it cognitive distance. I won't go that far as to 256 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 5: say that we're not real about it. But the military 257 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: is just concerned that we think that we gave the 258 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 5: president more better leverage than he's probably applied, and maybe 259 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 5: one more strike and a couple of different things. Look, 260 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 5: you know, to say we were going to regime change 261 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 5: from airpower along was never probably the case. 262 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 4: But I don't mind keep going down. 263 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 5: A few more layers and we see how strong the 264 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 5: ier GC their control is over the Iranians and over 265 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 5: that country in a forty seven years. It's calcified at 266 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 5: this point. And so but but if this gets strung along, 267 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: we just lose our patient to Jdvan says, you know what, I've. 268 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: Just had enough. I'm going went home, and you just 269 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: you know, we're just going to end it here. 270 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: You know, Trump didn't get its visual sign of victory, 271 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 5: and I think that's what most concerns me. 272 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no there's no real visual sign in. 273 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 5: Victory, so that I think that that translates into defeat. 274 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: Major Mike Lines. That's how you follow him on Twitter 275 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: anytime anything big military breaks, I always go there to 276 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: see what he's going to say about it and his 277 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: op ed tomorrow in real clear defense. Mike Lines, thanks 278 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 2: for your time today, Thanks thanks for having me and 279 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: the future this whole drone thing is so fascinating. But 280 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: like we were talking about with that group of numb 281 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: nuts who wanted to attack Trump's UFC fight there in 282 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: the White House, lawn. At some point, whether it's Isis 283 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: al Qaeda or some homegrown terrorist nut job, somebody's going 284 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: to pull off a drone attack and that's going to 285 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: change everything all of a sudden. We're going to spend 286 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: be spending money all over the place protecting things from drones. 287 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: It's inevitable. Really. More on the way sta hear. 288 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 6: The New York Governor Kathy Hochel is giving two and 289 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 6: a half million dollars of taxpayer money to provide free 290 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 6: dental care to prostitutes. Many critics say this will only 291 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 6: encourage people to become dentists. 292 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: I don't quite get the joke, but the story itself 293 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: is crazy wacko. It's like Mayor Bass talking about new 294 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: teeth for people who meth the teeth out of their head. 295 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: You've taken so much meth you've got no teeth, then 296 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: the taxpayers are supposed to replace your teeth, because how 297 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: they supposed to get a job with no teeth. They 298 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: ain't gonna be able to get a job because of 299 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: the kind of people that keep taking meth until all 300 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: their teeth are gone. That sort of person is not, generally, 301 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: at least until they get their acts together Hiable. I'm 302 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: going to talk about politics coming up with Gary Dietrich 303 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: next segment, maybe get into the how big a deal 304 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: are these? Is the democratic socialist movement. You can put 305 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: the word democratic in front of it to try to 306 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: soften it, but socialists socialist with three socialists winning primaries 307 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: last night and what some of them believe is just 308 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: crazy whack job stuff, So stay tuned for that. It's 309 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: talking about habits last hour on how I learned a 310 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: while back and have noticed in my life, if you 311 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: establish a good habit, it's hard to break, just like 312 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: a bad habit is hard to break. And once I 313 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: got in the habit of going to the gym or 314 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: playing a music practicing a musical instrument, it's just something 315 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: I automatically do. It's part of It's subconsciously and consciously 316 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: scheduled into my day. It's not an afterthought. It's part 317 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: of my day because it's a habit and it just 318 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: automatically happens. How long does it take to establish a 319 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: good habit? I was wondering. Somebody said, I didn't verify this, 320 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: but twenty one days to set a good habit, years 321 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: or never to break a bad habit. Although there is 322 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: some claims that to break a bad habit, you place 323 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: it with a good habit. I don't know. I don't 324 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: know if I buy that or not. Maybe stop chewing 325 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: my fingernails and play the piano or something. I don't know. 326 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. But anyway, twenty one days to establish 327 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: a good habit. I feel like it takes longer than that. 328 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: But I'm trying to get my kids into the good 329 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: habit world as opposed to the bad habit world. Did 330 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: you get the earthquake update on your watch or your phone? 331 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: Michael? 332 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: I did, and so did Hanson. He came running in 333 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: the studio and I thought I was gonna have. 334 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: To hold him. 335 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: Those of you listening around the country, you probably just 336 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: doesn't happen to you. But we're based in California, and 337 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: we got these alerts on our phones and our watches. 338 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: Earthquake detected nearby. If the shaking intensifies, drop cover and 339 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: hold on. Did you drop cover or hold on? I 340 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: did not. I did not feel any shaking either. No, 341 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: I didn't drop down. Okay, so I would drop put 342 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: my hands over my head, and then what do I 343 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: hold on? What am I holding on to? I guess 344 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: like table legs. Why why is holding onto a table 345 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: leg Help me? Well, you'd be under the table, and 346 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: so the table would protect you from falling objects. There's 347 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: no table in here. Well, I'm if there was a 348 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: table in the event of not having a table, what 349 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: am I supposed to hold on too? I need, I 350 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: need the nearest cute girl. Hanson says, we're all gonna die. Uh, 351 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Gary Dietrich, who's always good. Coming 352 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: up next if you miss again podcast Armstrong and getting 353 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: on the Bad Wrong and Getty. 354 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 5: We're taking on big money, We're taking on billionaires, we're 355 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 5: taking on bullies, and we are delivering. 356 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: For the working people of New York City. 357 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 7: Allisite is on the ballots are on the ballots. Abolishing 358 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 7: Ice is on the ballance and we have a world 359 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 7: to win because when we fight. 360 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: So you had three socialist Mom Donnie backed candidates win 361 00:17:53,960 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: against more establishment Democrats in primaries in New York City yesterday. 362 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: And I normally think these, you know, somewhere in America 363 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: ad race people. I don't know, their issues are way 364 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: overblown in terms of being national stories. But three democratic 365 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: socialists beating incumbent democrats has got to mean something. And 366 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: in some of the cases, like the one woman who won, 367 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: she believes nine to eleven was America's fault. She's a 368 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: Muslim woman. She believes nine to eleven was America's fault 369 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: because of our system of capitalism, racism, white supremacy, in Islamophobia. 370 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: You got this other guy, Goldman who lost. He got 371 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: kicked out of a coffee shop. Dan Goldman got kicked 372 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 2: out of a coffee shop in Brooklyn because he's a 373 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: Jew and took money from Apak the Israeli lobby. Honest 374 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: might be the same person as one of the others. 375 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: But is. 376 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 2: For abolishing prisons. I mean, some crazy, crazy stuff. What 377 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: does this all mean? Well, let's talk to Gary Dietrich, 378 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: who we often talk to whenever we talk about politics. Gary, 379 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Armstrong you get your show. 380 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 8: Hey, Jack, Good to talk to you again, buddy, And yeah, 381 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 8: I think you're onto something here, Jack. I mean, this 382 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 8: is starting to get to be this whole sort of 383 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 8: democratic socialists. Maybe truly to call a wave, but it 384 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 8: is certainly a trend line, and believe me, political watchers 385 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 8: are watching it closely. Most importantly goes inside the Democratic 386 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 8: Party itself and Mondannie too many people, you know, Okay, an. 387 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: Outfire in New York City, whatever. 388 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 8: But now you've got three members of Congress who presumably 389 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 8: and by the way, all three of these just because 390 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 8: you hadn't mentioned this, but I know you're aware of this, 391 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 8: are so Democratic leaning. These people who won these primaries 392 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 8: as Democrats, they almost certainly are going to be elected, 393 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 8: you know, to Congress, and there's going to be three 394 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 8: votes that Democratic leadership is going to have to deal 395 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 8: with in the House caucus. 396 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: Right, and if it ends up being really closely split, 397 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: I mean I think the Democrat I'll have control, but 398 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: if it's pretty close like it has been, as we know, 399 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: three votes can make a big difference, can hold up legislation, 400 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: and you got. 401 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 8: It, absolutely and Jack, they can exert a lot of leverage. 402 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 8: I mean, that's what we've seen with Mike Johnson trying 403 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 8: to corral all his Republicans, right, I mean, it's three, 404 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 8: four or five votes blocked together can say well, listen, 405 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 8: you know we're going to block this legislation unless you 406 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 8: put this through. I mean, there's a lot that can happen, 407 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 8: and of course, the biggest concern I know you and 408 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 8: Joe talk about this is the biggest concern amongst Democrats is. 409 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: What does this mean for the rest of us? Right? 410 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: In other words, do we get you know, sort of 411 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: called tarred and feathered with. 412 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 8: This, and are they going to force us to make 413 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 8: votes that we don't want to have to make back. 414 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: In our districts. 415 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 8: I mean, there's so many implications of this. You get 416 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 8: on something else I think that is really interesting about 417 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 8: these racist jack and that is these underlying issues. For example, Goldman, Yes, 418 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 8: you mentioned he's a Jew, but so is his opponent. 419 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 8: But the problem was Goldman, as you rtually played out, 420 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 8: took money from the Israeli lobby. 421 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: The whole israel. 422 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 8: Support factor is becoming a real litmus test for or 423 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 8: against inside the Democratic Party. 424 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: Wow. And I don't remember which one of the socialists 425 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: that won, but they put up Haking Jeffries on the 426 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: screen and the crowd booed, They booed the guy that's 427 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: most likely going to be Speaker of the House here 428 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: pretty soon. 429 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: Well, and you rightly pointed out. 430 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 8: I mean the thing to me that was perhaps most 431 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 8: telling about each of these races is that you call 432 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 8: them the democratic establishment. Hakim Jeff Jeffries, You're right, quite 433 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 8: possibly going to be Speaker of the House, Kathley Hochel, 434 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 8: Governor of New York. In one case, even Attorney General 435 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 8: Letitia James endorsed one of the candidates. And so you're 436 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 8: talking the full weight of New York politics against these 437 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 8: upstarts Socialists and the Democratic Socialist one. Now admittedly, you 438 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 8: know AOC Bernie Mamdani were behind these candidates, but you're 439 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 8: beginning to see the beginnings of something inside the Democratic 440 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 8: Party that apparently is not just a flash in the pan, 441 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 8: is not going to go away, and is. 442 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: Going to be a challenge for them to do. 443 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 8: By the way, one of these incumbents of loss was 444 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 8: the actual chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. Right, So 445 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 8: these aren't people who are just no names that got beat. 446 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: These are people with oh and Goldman, by the way, 447 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: an heir to. 448 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 8: The Levi Strauss fortune, which you know, you could say, 449 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 8: well that really helped him in terms of campaign financing. 450 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you. 451 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: Heard in those leading comments that you played jack. 452 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 8: You know, billionaires aren't playing well right now amongst certain 453 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 8: elements of the Democratic Party. 454 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 2: Well, and he ran the impeachment against Trump. You'd think 455 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: he'd anyway. Uh oh. 456 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: So. 457 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: Mark Halpern is writing in his newsletter today that this 458 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: kind of reminds him of the Trump takeover of the 459 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: Republican Party, that the establishment Republican Party ignored a lot 460 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 2: of discontent in the Republican Party until it got, you know, 461 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: blindsided by Trump. And he makes the point that if 462 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: the demo crap the leadership hadn't rigged the system, Bernie 463 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: would have been their nominee in sixteen and twenty. I mean, 464 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: they should have seen this coming. That's where the energy was. 465 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: But because so they were like, okay, we stopped Berty 466 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: few no problems here. Well, the problems still exists, the 467 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: discontent in their party still exists. 468 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a really important point, Jack, that this. 469 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 8: Is not just and this was the problem as you're 470 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 8: pointing out with the Trump Tha and people, oh it's 471 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 8: just Trumps flash and the pan whatever. No, this had 472 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 8: been brewing for a while and the people felt like 473 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 8: Bernie was done dirty by his own party and rose 474 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 8: in the polls. As you rightly point out, many people 475 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 8: thought he could have been the nominee quite easily. But 476 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 8: there's been other things that people who are Democrats say, 477 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 8: wait a minute, you guys are rigging the game, and 478 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 8: you're not listening to us, You're not paying any attention 479 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 8: to us because you think we're going to be a 480 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 8: net drag on your whatever ability to take control the House. 481 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: Whatever. 482 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 8: But the problem now is this swell has been building, mom, 483 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 8: Donnie is the most recent manifestation of it. 484 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: But again, you put three members. 485 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 8: Of Congress in there who are going to be speechifying 486 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 8: every day on the House floor, casting votes, making demands, 487 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 8: you know, and in these kind of districts, by all accounts, 488 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 8: who knows how many times they could get reelected. They 489 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 8: could create real challenges because you know what's going to happen, Jack, 490 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 8: This now is going to be picked up by Republicans. 491 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 8: They see, we told you this is what's coming if 492 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 8: you vote Democrats, they're going to try to use the 493 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 8: broadbrush nationally to really, you know, scare people. 494 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: And it's saying you want this in your neighborhood. Here's 495 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: what's coming. 496 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: Boy, What these two parties look like in ten years 497 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: is anybody's guests, Where does the working class finally end up? 498 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: Is a Democratic party? Officially the party of college graduates? 499 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: The way the Republican Party used to be. I have 500 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: no idea. 501 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 8: Well, and the thing about New York is I think 502 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 8: people need to remember, is you. 503 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: Know sort of I try to take a step back at. 504 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 8: This and look at not just politically but a little sociologically, 505 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 8: and say, look, the people that they. 506 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: Are appealing to. 507 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 8: Bernie's constituency is one of his core audiences, as you know, 508 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 8: has been young people. 509 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: But how could this guy? 510 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 8: People always asking asking me, how could this really old 511 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 8: guy attract him? Well, because he's scratching where they're itching. 512 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 8: He's saying, look, you can't afford to buy a house 513 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 8: in New York anywhere in there. You got jobs that 514 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 8: are low paying, and so Aid said, and the billionaires 515 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 8: don't care about you in the wards in a strange way, 516 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 8: is your point, now, Jack, There's a similarity between Trump's 517 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 8: message of the elite rich people don't care about you 518 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 8: and the Democratic socialist message, which in many ways is 519 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 8: very similar. 520 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: So switching gears as we broadcast from California. Our governor 521 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: is Gavin Newsom, and he is one of the leading 522 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: perhaps candidates to be our next president for the Democratic Party. 523 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: Coming out of the Democratic side of things, how big 524 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: of trouble. Is he actually in the California Post? You know, 525 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: the New York Post now has the California Post. California 526 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: Post has had several op eds in a row to 527 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: make it sound like Gavin and his wife are in 528 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: actual trouble, like there's an actual scandal there. This just 529 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: isn't law fair from the Trump Justice Department. What are 530 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: you hearing? 531 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 8: Well, I think that's important. There's two things I'd say 532 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 8: right now about Gavin Newsom. First off, we know, yes, 533 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 8: he's been running for president forever. Anybody who lives in 534 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 8: California or even watches California knows that. And he's only 535 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 8: got a few more months less to do with his 536 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 8: legislative business. And then, as I'd like to say, he's 537 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 8: firing up the twenty eight bus and away they go. 538 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 8: But the thing about it is on what you're talking about. 539 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 8: Let's just stick for a second on the DOJ investigation, 540 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 8: regardless of what is actually there. The thing about the 541 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 8: DOJ at the federal level, as you know, Jack, they 542 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 8: can wreak a lot of habit, they can call a 543 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 8: lot of people, they can do a lot of investigating, 544 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 8: and this can take a long time. 545 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: In other words, you. 546 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 8: Know, beginning of next year, sooner than that, right after 547 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 8: the November midterm election. Here, these campaigns for twenty eight 548 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 8: are going to be revved up, and you don't want 549 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 8: to be in the middle of what could easily be 550 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 8: a year long or longer investigation where this drip drip 551 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 8: drip of things and this person gets called in and 552 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 8: these documents get subpoened. That's not what you want, not 553 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 8: only for not winning the general election twenty eight, but 554 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 8: to win your own primary. And then on the other 555 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 8: side of the things, how about what Fares Zakari of 556 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 8: CNN came out with. 557 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Ye I don't know if you guys touched done. 558 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 8: It did in the last week ten days, an absolute 559 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 8: evisceration of what he called failed governance in California. And 560 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 8: as you know, Jack went on for five or six 561 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 8: minutes detailing all the issues that too from a well 562 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 8: would be considered to be typically a you know, democratic 563 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 8: friendly kind of media outlet. 564 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: That's problematic. 565 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: So the piece in the California Post today is Gavin 566 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: Newsom donors landed plumb state posts after shelling out thousands 567 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: to his packs and his wife's nonprofit, and they've got 568 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty easy because you have to report 569 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: all this stuff and then you can look at when 570 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: they got hired. Donors who wrote big checks to Gavin 571 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: Newsom's political action committees, campaigns, and charitable causes, including his wife's, 572 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: have frequently received gubernatorial appointments, with some landing influential state 573 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: posts days after the money arrived. I mean, see he 574 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: got the check and then you get the job two 575 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: days later. 576 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Well, and it didn't help him. 577 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 8: As you know, Jack that his former chief of staff 578 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 8: has pled guilty to federal charges as it relates to 579 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 8: the misuse of Xavier Besserra, thank you, our new Democratic 580 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 8: cotroial candidate, as you know, going into the fall. 581 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: So he's already had a chief of staff played guilty. 582 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 8: There's just too many planets swirling around his you know, 583 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 8: his son right now that you know, are going to 584 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 8: cast long shadows. 585 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: There's no getting around that. 586 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 8: And he's been out front, as you know, sort of 587 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 8: in many polls either the leader. He's right up there 588 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 8: with Kamala Harris and others in the early early polling. 589 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 8: But this is going to be used, this is going 590 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 8: to be used as opposition research by the dozen or 591 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 8: more opponents in his primary, let alone in a general election. 592 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: So I was on a panel yesterday a bunch of 593 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: big Whig political consultants in sacern know, at a fancy hotel, 594 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: and I had to put on jacket and everything. Anyway, 595 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: we were talking about influencers and ai ads and all 596 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, and man, what an interesting area 597 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: of that is. What is what are the next couple 598 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: of elections going to look like? You know what? We 599 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: saw Spencer Pratt pull off where you can get any 600 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: college kid with a little bit of knowledge of a 601 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: computer to put together an ad that goes you know, 602 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: goes viral without spending any money. 603 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, this is this is, to me, Jack, the next 604 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 8: step of the democratization small d of our political process. 605 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 8: People thought it was a huge deal when all of 606 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 8: a sudden president presidential level candidates were raising millions and 607 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 8: millions of dollars through tiny donors online. Remember when the 608 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 8: online donation thing became a thing and you just didn't 609 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 8: sit in smoke filled rooms and have fatcats rest right 610 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 8: half a million dollar checks and people like, wow, this 611 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 8: is going to really change politics. Well, to me, now, 612 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 8: this is the next wave of that. No, you don't 613 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 8: have to hire Pratt showed this. You don't have to 614 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 8: hire massive, the expensive you know, consultants and pr firms, 615 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 8: et cetera to produce these ads. 616 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: We'll make an expensive ad buy yeah. 617 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: And you throw it up online. Somebody produces it. 618 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 8: Those those apparently the Pratt campaign didn't even pay for 619 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 8: somebody just made them. 620 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: So we are we are clearly moving into a brave 621 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: new world. 622 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 8: And of course that doesn't even include all the questions 623 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 8: that come to the content of those ads, which with 624 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 8: AI that's kind of the wild wild West right now. 625 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: Although we still recommend you make those major ad bys 626 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: to whatever radio station you're listening to currently, those aren't 627 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: going to go away. 628 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 8: And the reason is because the reason is because, as 629 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 8: you know, still the largest demographic of people that vote 630 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 8: is middle aged to older age people. And yes, those 631 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 8: people still very loyal radio listeners. 632 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: As you know, you've realized, I, you know, handbite, the 633 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: one that feeds you that whole thing. UH want to 634 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: watch out for that. I don't even know what I'm 635 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: supposed to label you as before I let you go. 636 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: What are you now other than almost apien? 637 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? I am a human. 638 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 8: I am officially CBS Television's political analyst based in Sacramento, 639 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 8: as well as well as Iheartradios, both based out of Sacramental. 640 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: Good. Good for you. Well, thanks for coming on. I 641 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 642 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: Okay, buddy, we'll talk soon you met. 643 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the conversation we had yesterday with all the political 644 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: consultant and everybody's guessing with the AI stuff where it's 645 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: going is like trying to verify what's true. Somebody puts 646 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: out a really great ad that's full of misinformation and 647 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: you didn't have to pay him for it. They just 648 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: made it and it went viral. Is there any stopping 649 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: that you don't have to have a paid for by 650 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: the Johnson campaign because he didn't pay for it? And 651 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: just how's that whole thing gonna work? Anyway? Lots of 652 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: stuff on the way. Stay here, heyey. 653 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 9: The FAA wants to use AI to reduce flight and 654 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 9: manage air traffic. I Meanwhile, Southwest they're going to keep 655 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 9: guiding their planes by having the palace shot Marco and 656 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 9: then shouting back polar. 657 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: So yesterday was it on the One More Thing podcast 658 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: where Joe had the list of rules for boys or 659 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: things dead dads should teach their sons or something, and 660 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: I had a bunch of good stuff on there, like 661 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: good firm handshake and stuff like that. I didn't agree 662 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: with all of them, but a lot of them pretty good. 663 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: And then I came across another list. I guess these 664 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: are floating around because of Father's Day. How to be 665 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: a man? I don't agree with all of these. Never 666 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: be the last one in the pool. I'm not exactly 667 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: sure what that means. Everybody's jumping in the pool. Yeah, 668 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: I can kind of see that when you're yeah, I 669 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: he is a twenty something. If people were like jumping 670 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: in the pool, don't be the one that just kind 671 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: of stands there and looks around. Should I or shouldn't I? 672 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: You look? You look? Yeah, Yeah, that's not a good 673 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: look when in doubt. Always kissed the girl okay, hashtag 674 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: me too. Never split a check with a woman, Yeah, 675 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: don't do that. It's supposed to all be with women. Okay. 676 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 2: Never taken X back. She tried to do better and 677 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: is settling with you. That's probably true if your X 678 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: wants to get back with you. They went out there 679 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: and tried to see if they could do better and realized. Eh, 680 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: I guess people don't want me as much as I thought, 681 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 2: and they come back to you. That works both ways 682 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: for men and women. That's pretty funny. Never harp warrior wallow, 683 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't help. Desserts are for women. As a guy, 684 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: you shouldn't order a dessert. 685 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 7: No. 686 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: No, if I'd ever heard that one before, So that 687 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: makes me look weak. Don't take selfies? I agree. Who 688 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: was that celebrity I saw taking selfies in the gym 689 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: when we were at the convention. It was the one 690 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: in Chicago, one of the CNN hosts. It was a Cuomo. 691 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: Who's the Cuomo? That's a host? There's you got the Cuomo? 692 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 2: Who's the government? Come Chris Cuomo? They really super buff. 693 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: He has a show on News Nation now. Anyway, he 694 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: was in the gym the same time I was, and 695 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: he was lifting weights and he would like do some 696 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: biceps and get his arms pumped up, and then he 697 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 2: would like flex and take pictures of himself. Uh selfie's 698 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: smiling into the camera, And I thought, Wow, that's creepy 699 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: and weird and people are watching you do this and 700 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: you're not ashamed at all. Generally, I feel like at 701 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: the gym, you kind of you try you catch a 702 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: glance at yourself in the mirror to see how you're looking, 703 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: but you don't want to be googling yourself. It makes 704 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: you kind of weird. Never make a scene. I like 705 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: that one. Never make a scene as a good one. 706 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: If it's a problem money can solve, it's not a problem. 707 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: I'll have to think about that one for a while. 708 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: Stand up to bullies. You only have to do it once. 709 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: Never canceled dinner plans with a woman by text message. 710 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: That's a good one. You shouldn't really do hardly anything 711 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: important by text message. Pretty women who are unaccompanied want 712 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: you to talk to them. That is not true. That 713 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: is just not true. I've heard this from enough women. 714 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, don't ever say it is what it is. 715 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 2: That's a good rule too, all right, we got more 716 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: coming up an hour four. If you missed a segment, 717 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 2: gets the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and 718 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 2: Getty