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Speaker 2: What is going on? Everybody Happy Fugazi Friday. Hopefully you

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Speaker 2: had a good Halloween. The New York Jets, let me

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Speaker 2: say this out loud. The New York Jets have won

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Speaker 2: a football game. Aaron Rodgers, the Jets Davante Kara Wilson

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Speaker 2: almost to their champions, felt like their champions because they

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Speaker 2: needed to win, score twenty one points in the second half,

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Speaker 2: win a game at home, and they're champions. We'll just

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Speaker 2: call them champions. They were once favored to win the

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Speaker 2: NFC or the AFC East. Currently three and six, but

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Speaker 2: you know three and six bet two and seven. The Texans,

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Speaker 2: they got some issues that they're they're past. Blocking is

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Speaker 2: a problem, which is leading the CJ getting crushed and

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Speaker 2: then not playing very well. So Dimiko's a stud defensive coach.

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Speaker 2: I think they got good defensive players, but obviously you

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Speaker 2: got some offensive wide receiver issues. You can't block, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you got no shot in this league, and right now

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Speaker 2: he is getting crushed. So we'll dive into some numbers there.

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Speaker 2: We want to talk a little bit about the development

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Speaker 2: of quarterbacks because it's been such a polarizing topic with

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Speaker 2: Richardson getting benched and all these other guys getting benched

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Speaker 2: and traded and do have to hit on a on

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Speaker 2: a almost a Thanksgiving, Halloween fugazi, which is whenever I

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Speaker 2: hear stories about this. I don't have kids yet, so

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Speaker 2: I'm not out trigger treating. But someone mentioned this to

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Speaker 2: me the other day and just made me sick. It

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Speaker 2: really did. And Stucky joins us as he does every Friday.

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Speaker 2: So we talked. I mean we just end up talking

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Speaker 2: for like an hour, just talking ball, talking games, talking gambling.

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Speaker 2: Stucky knows his shit, so enjoy Stuck from the Action Network.

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Speaker 2: I got a bunch of equipment delivered so over this fall.

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Speaker 2: before we dive in, I mean, hell, if you're a

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Speaker 2: Jets fan, maybe your team goes on a little winning streak. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Jets a standing ovation. Come on, they won a game.

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Speaker 3: The Jets one air Rogers, Woodie Johnson, DeVante Adams scored

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Speaker 3: a touchdown, Jeff Olbrick Todd downing Hackett. I didn't even

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Speaker 3: think I saw him the night fireman ed Halloween night.

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Speaker 3: The Jets win a game. Gotta be honest. The first

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Speaker 3: half I was jealous of everyone with children who are

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Speaker 3: out and about trick or treating, not being forced to

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Speaker 3: watch the Jets not score a point, And he went,

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Speaker 3: are we I don't know if I can do this again.

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Speaker 3: Just come on, be really negative. The Jets are dead.

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Speaker 3: This franchise sucks. Who are they gonna hire? I keep

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Speaker 3: texting everyone I know Rex Ryan, like I'm not jumping

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Speaker 2: Rex Ryan is gonna be the next head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Jets. That's a strong educated guess I do believe that,

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Speaker 2: It's like, guys, let's pump the brakes. They won a game.

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Speaker 2: Let's just go the good bad in the ugly. I

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Speaker 2: just watching that game and you did nothing about football

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Speaker 2: half touchdowns, and two of them the Davante won and

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Speaker 2: Incredible pass, but you know, Aaron Trust's guy. The touchdown

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Speaker 2: You get DeVante, who looked like he was KO'ed, comes

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Speaker 2: At halftime. They were twenty fifth in the NFL coming

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Speaker 2: little life. I do think the over hyping of brest

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Speaker 2: least offensively for moments. Now, Like is this a sustainable thing?

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Speaker 2: so he's got to take you take advantage in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: He really needs the two wide receivers luckily, as we

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Speaker 2: I mean those his second touchdown catches, they start showing

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Speaker 2: the second half, like that's rogers crowning achievement so far

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Speaker 2: But if they could just get more halfs like that, Like,

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Speaker 2: But another bright spot tonight was I mean that pass

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Speaker 2: But that's not normally gonna happen. But if they can

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Will McDonald and Son Reddick are

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Speaker 2: And speaking of quarterback development, I've been seeing so many

458
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Speaker 2: tweets and things on my Instagram about the NFL has

459
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback development problem. That's all I see. And it's

460
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 2: like it starts listing all the names. Anthony Richardson benched,

461
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, Trey Lanch benched, Will Levis benched, Mac Jones,

462
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: Canny Pickett benched. Obviously a lot of highly drafted quarterbacks

463
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: have been benched, traded, not worked out. I also think

464
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: the group of a lot of these names that we're

465
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: throwing out up until the quarterback inflation, which I think

466
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: there was an inflection point, right around Mahomes and Josh Allen.

467
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: When those two guys hit, everyone just went bananas on

468
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: drafting quarterbacks that historically in NFL history never would have

469
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: been drafted that high. For the overwhelming majority of my life,

470
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: guys like Mac Jones and Kenny Pickett were like Kirk Cousins.

471
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: They went on the third day of the draft. Let's

472
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: use Bryce Young up until Russell Wilson, and honestly, comparing

473
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson to Bryce Young feels a little crazy. Given

474
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: one guy weighs like one hundred and eighty pounds and

475
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: the other guy's like two hundred and twenty pounds and

476
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: has a massive arm and definitely did when he was young.

477
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty crazy. But Russell Wilson, as a

478
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: five to ten guy, he was almost five to eleven

479
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: went in the third round. This guy at five to nine,

480
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: a buck eighty five, went number one overall. Trey Lance

481
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: played one season at North Dakota State, one season where

482
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: honestly the majority of his play was runrunning the ball against.

483
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: I would say ninety nine percent of the guys he

484
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: played against that season are never or never did play

485
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: on Sundays. And then Anthony Richardson, while he is an

486
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: NFL body in a physical freak, started one season over

487
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: like five years. So in the history of guys like

488
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, a guy five to nine might have gone

489
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: undrafted in like nineteen ninety six, Trey Lance, small school

490
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: one season. Honestly, even he's like a third or fourth

491
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: round project twenty years ago, Anthony Richardson, maybe he goes

492
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: in the second round. But that guy in the history

493
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: of the league up until that inflection point is never

494
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: sniffing the top five of a draft. So all I

495
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: hear is quarterback development issues we have. Maybe we're just

496
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: drafting quarterbacks that never got drafted that high when we

497
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: already had guys who had accomplished way more in college

498
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: and fit the bill and also struggled. It's a tough

499
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: position to play, it really is. And the other thing

500
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: with quarterbacks like think about like venture capital. Right, it's

501
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: gotten really popular because all these guys become famous because

502
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: they get the most money and they can buy sports teams. Well,

503
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: if I take a lump sum of my firm has

504
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty million dollars, right, and I spread

505
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: it out, I give it to ten different startups twenty

506
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: different startups. I diversify my portfolio, and if one of

507
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: them turns into Google or Apple or or Netflix or whatever,

508
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: that one alone dwarfs all the money that I put out.

509
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: And if I just hit on a couple that are

510
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: like five or ten x ers, I'm in the clear.

511
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm cool with missing on a ton of them. Well,

512
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: think about a draft. You have seven or eight draft picks.

513
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: It's why all the time at every other position, you

514
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: can draft the same position multiple times to writ a draft,

515
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: and over the course of two years, let's take let's

516
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: say a team has fourteen draft picks. Maybe over that

517
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: period of time they draft three offensive linemen or four

518
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: defensive backs or three defensive linemen. So over the course

519
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: of like two or three years, Yeah, the second round

520
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: defensive lineman, you know what, it turns out he sucked.

521
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: But you know the guy we got in the fifth round,

522
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Max Crosby. No one ends up talking about

523
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: the second rounder anymore. It happens all the time, like, oh,

524
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: how about our first round wide receiver, And two years

525
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: later the fourth rounder is way better and everyone's like, God,

526
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: pay this guy, Nico Collins. What quarterback? When you draft

527
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: a guy really high. What happens, you typically don't draft

528
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: another one for several years, so that guy's kind of

529
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 2: on an island. And when that guy's bad, it feels

530
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 2: like there's no replacement. It's just him. And obviously at

531
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: that position, it's way more famous. We talk about him

532
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: way more. They are the most important guy in terms

533
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: of if he's good. It's like investing in Uber. There

534
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: is there's no draft pick, there is no trade up

535
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: high enough to get one of the star quarterbacks. But

536
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: everyone has so desperately tried, with the Anthony Richinsons, with

537
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: the Trey Lances, to try to get the next Lamar

538
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: Jackson or Josh Allen or Justin Herbert. Those guys are outliers,

539
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: and I think we're seeing it right now. But this

540
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: notion of like, you know, Anthony Richardson got done dirty

541
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: by his team, because I've seen some people around football

542
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, how are you supposed to have

543
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: develop this guy if he's not playing well? What are

544
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: you supposed to say to the other fucking guys on

545
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: the team, Like, Hey, guys, we don't give a shit

546
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 2: about winning any of these games. We're just gonna develop

547
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: them and yeat. Ryan Kelly, I know you're just laying

548
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: the line. Your whole entire body hurts. You're one of

549
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: the better players you know in our franchise over the

550
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: last twenty five years. Probably not gonna win as many

551
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: games because this guy can't hit water from a boat,

552
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: But hey man, this is what we're doing. They couldn't

553
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: do that. So even if you separate the TapouT helmet,

554
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: you can only get so far with the competitive team.

555
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: If you're the Panthers, if you're the Patriots, if you're whatever,

556
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: it's like you can just roll with the guy because

557
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose no matter what. But when you have

558
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: a chance to win every week, you can't roll that

559
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: out there because in all those other positions, they all

560
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: know like I could have easily been replaced. It's basically

561
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: the Hunger Games at every other position. Did any moment

562
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: like the next year, all this fourth round, or holy shit,

563
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: is he better than me? And all of a sudden

564
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: I get benched, I get cut, I get traded, and

565
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: that guy becomes a starter. They all see it. In

566
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback is like, oh, we gotta take care of him,

567
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: we gotta be careful with him. You could do that

568
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: if he's like a great player, and even then you

569
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: better treat it very carefully. You could not do that

570
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: if the guy's averager below. And if the guy's a

571
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: liability and not good enough and you do that, you're

572
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: gonna get fired. So to me, like, not only they

573
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: make the right decision, they had the right mindset when

574
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: they picked them. And let's face it, as we see

575
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: here today, it's a disastrous pick. It doesn't get much worse.

576
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: It really doesn't. It's like a better version of Trey Lance,

577
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: but still extremely bad. I mean, because he's a better player,

578
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: but similar outcome, Like I don't think you can win

579
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: many games with this guy, because you can't. And is

580
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: the coaching staff in the GM like they can discuss

581
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: it all they want, And this is the locker room

582
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: turns on you, and a locker room knew And they

583
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: made that decision not because Chris Ballard and Shane Stike

584
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: and like truly because they knew the locker room would

585
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: they would tap out and then they would lose the team. Okay,

586
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: before we get out of here, I talked to someone today.

587
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I don't have any trigger treaders. I moved to this

588
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: house last year. I don't know if it's the part

589
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: of the community I live in. We don't have street lights.

590
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: We bought seven million pounds of candy last year. Was

591
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: so excited. She even made rice Krispy Tree special ones

592
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: with M and M's. We're just gonna have a bash.

593
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: All these little kids. Didn't get one person. Actually we did,

594
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: but it was because she put a post on next door.

595
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: They just aren' turger tree, which was kind of disheartening.

596
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: But someone told me I was talking to them within

597
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: the last couple of days that they remember last year.

598
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: They were taking their kids and someone had a bowl

599
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: with toothbrushes. This is to me, the Fourth of July

600
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: for little kids. It is an incredible holiday for little

601
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: kids and any human any human being. If you don't

602
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: want to participate, I have no issue with it. Turn

603
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: off your lights and just don't participate in Halloween. People

604
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: won't walk up to the door, but if you are

605
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: going to put something out there and listen, I'm pro health.

606
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: Health is wealth and candy. I've already had too much

607
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: this week. I understand you know. I'm trying to get

608
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: a workout in six seven days a week, So I'm

609
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 2: a pro that and I understand some people do not

610
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: condone giving all the kids. There are two options. You

611
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: either don't participate, turn the house lights off, or you

612
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: hand out candy anything else. Obviously you're like messing around,

613
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: giving beers out to people or whatever, having fun out.

614
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about anything like toothbrushes fruit. You should

615
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: be arrested. I mean you really should. You something is

616
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: wrong with you, Like you're not teaching life lessons on Halloween.

617
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: This is the night I've been to live forty years

618
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: and from the moment I could trick or treat still

619
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 2: to this day, because my brother's taking his kids. They

620
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: want trick or treating today they can have as much

621
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: candy as they want. It's just one of those moments.

622
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: And if you push back against it, you got problems,

623
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: and you, deep down in my soul, make me very angry,

624
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: because that is that's just whack job behavior. It really

625
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: is hand out toothbrushes. Like you do understand all these

626
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: parents that are bringing their kids, they have their toothbrushes

627
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: are at home, you know, in their bathrooms in the sink,

628
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: Like they don't need your fucking toothbrush. You're not You're

629
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: not doctor, Mandelis. That was my dentists back in the day.

630
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: But you don't need to hand out toothbrushes and fruit, Like,

631
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: give me a break. Do you ever try to feed

632
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: a kid fruit? They throw it on the ground. So

633
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: let's just two options. And I know most people listening

634
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: you're probably all with me, but there are a few

635
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: of you that know a few people that should be.

636
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what we do. I'd be cool like arresting,

637
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: but definitely a citation. Something has to happen. If you

638
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Speaker 2: are participating Lights on and you have anything but candy

639
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Speaker 2: out there, you got problems. Okay, Happy Halloween, everybody. Back

640
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Speaker 2: at it again with my main man Stucky from Lexington, Kentucky.

641
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642
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: And you know, I was thinking, whenever I start scrolling

643
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: the schedule on like Monday or Tuesday, and you're on

644
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: ESPN dot com and you go from like week four

645
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: to week six and you start moving, you start realizing, God,

646
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 2: it's season's flying by, Like we need to slow down.

647
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 2: I start getting I start getting some anxiety, Stucky, because

648
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, God, can we pump the brakes a little bit?

649
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: We're getting close like the college football playoffs. Yeah, it's cool,

650
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: but it also means we're close to ending the season.

651
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: I start getting those feels this week when I looked

652
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: at the schedule. Not gonna lie.

653
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the same for me whenever it's week ten,

654
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: because it's like, while we're in the double digit weeks already,

655
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: and that's when it really hits me. It always seems

656
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: to just come in a flash. And yeah, so cherish

657
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: all these weekends that we all yearn for. When you

658
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: know it's June.

659
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: Well, one thing that definitely starts happening. I mean, hell,

660
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: even in Scottsdale this morning, it was when I got

661
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: in my car, it was forty eight degrees, So the

662
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: weather starts turning. And I think sometimes you know, you're

663
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: dialed into this, but I you know, some of us

664
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: a little more casual when it comes to just talking

665
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: about the game, betting on the game. All of a sudden,

666
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: you turn on the TV Sunday morning, You're like, uh,

667
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: this weather changes everything, and that's something you definitely have

668
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. You know, some of these

669
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: games at Philly at Baltimore. Maybe not this weekend specifically,

670
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: but right when we turn Halloween. That's when we start,

671
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: you know, getting some of these curve balls back in

672
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: some of these cities. H just big picture, any any

673
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: weather this week in any of these places in the Northeast.

674
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 2: That that caught your eye, because sometimes you start getting

675
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: a big line. It's like you just it's like an

676
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: auto hammer the underdog. Sometimes you're gonna have crappy weather.

677
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean unders too, especially early in the week,

678
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: they usually are going to get hit. Wind is the

679
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: biggest thing. Rain doesn't matter as much. Snow. I actually

680
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: like to look for snow overs, like call them snow overs.

681
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: If there's enough snow, got to bet it like really

682
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: close to kick though, like if there's like a coating

683
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: on the field, like a significant coating, because usually what

684
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: happens is the total comes down. But historically those games

685
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: go over because the defense is just at such a

686
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: disadvantage because they just don't have footing. You can't really

687
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: get a pass rush. Brady's actually talked about that a lot.

688
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots their games used to fly over

689
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: when there was snow. So you have like as long

690
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: as there's not too much wind, there's enough snow, but

691
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: not too much it's a very fine line. You can't

692
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: have like, you know, eight inch, you can't have eight

693
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: inches on the field.

694
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: I remember Shady McCoy had a big game in the

695
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: snow years ago on the Eagles.

696
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Yep, he was. He was great in that because he

697
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: could cut and the defense just can't get their footing,

698
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: so he was he was famous for that. But yeah,

699
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: with like wind unders, even against the clothes that historically

700
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: don't well, the key mark you're looking for is fifteen

701
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: miles per hour uh sustained winds. And then obviously if

702
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: you have like really big gusts, that helps too, because

703
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: it's going to impact the deep passing game, it's going

704
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: to impact field goals. It's gonna make coaches a little

705
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: bit more conservative. If for this weekend. I mean, the

706
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: one that sticks out to me the most is a

707
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: bet already made with the Packers plus three and a

708
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: half get to fade outdoor Pumpkin Goth Jared Goff just

709
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: any type of conditions turns into a complete pumpkin. I

710
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: saw you in practice yesterday with a he rolled his ankle.

711
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: I think that he's trying to get out of this game.

712
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: It's only one of two that yes, play outdoors.

713
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, but talking MVP Golf Stuckey, Yeah, I.

714
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Mean he's played every game indoors. They've also played a

715
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: bunch of hurt defenses. No Jamison Williams. But if you

716
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: look at historically, I mean GoF and Campbell just automatic

717
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: against the spread. Like GoF is sixty percent against the

718
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: spread in his career, Campbell seventy percent. Since he's got

719
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: the Detroit But if you split out indoors versus outdoors,

720
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: Goff is thirty nine and sixteen against the spread indoors

721
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: seventy one percent, thirty four to thirty four and one outdoors.

722
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: And for what it's worth, the floor at home has

723
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: been very good. He's twenty eight and sixteen against the spread,

724
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: six and one as an underdogs. Touchdown the interception ratio

725
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: goes from three point eight touchdowns per interceptions to one

726
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: point eight when he's outdoors, straps by two full touchdowns.

727
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: And that's just that's all outdoor games. There's not always

728
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: weather conditions. There's gonna be win, there's gonna be rain.

729
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: It's a slower track in Green Bay, so there is

730
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty with the quarterback situation. Which is

731
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Speaker 1: why the line is sitting here at three and a half.

732
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: But Malik wils has showed well. I mean, if you

733
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: look at all quarterbacks, he leads the NFL and EPA

734
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: plus completion percentage over expectation. Now he's only had I

735
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: think sixty sixty five dropbacks, but he's been good in

736
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: every game that he's played, even last week against Jacksonville

737
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: just led nothing but scoring drives in that game. Lafleur

738
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: will have him ready, but it looks like Love thinks

739
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: that he's gonna play. We'll see. It could be just

740
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: some gamesmanship.

741
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: He talked like it. I thought his quotes on Wednesday

742
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: that like all signs point if he can move, he's playing, yep.

743
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: But then he is he hampered. But the thing is

744
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: that this Detroit defense with Al Hutchinson is bad. They

745
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean they got torched by the Titans. The Titans

746
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: I've been able to move the ball on anybody. I mean,

747
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: I know they won fifty two to fourteen, but Titans

748
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: have three hundred yards in the first half. Somehow they

749
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: were down twenty eight. Titans are a special team, you know.

750
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Minnesota moved the ball. Their pressure rate's going

751
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: way down. They're exposedive play rates going way up, So

752
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: whatever quarterback is in there, it's going to have all

753
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: day to throw. And this Detroit secondary is gettable and

754
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: it's just golf outdoors. So I think that this is

755
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: the top of the market on the lines. If the

756
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: line might tick up a bit, like I would have

757
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay favored by a small amount if Love was

758
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: fully healthy, and you know, early in the year the

759
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: market was like assuming it was like a touchdown difference

760
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: between Love and Willis. I think that's been proven incorrect.

761
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: I think, you know, so anything over a field goal,

762
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: even if it is Willis, I still like this line

763
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: would obviously crash down if Love is in, which I

764
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: think probably I'm probably gonna say like sixty five thirty

765
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: five he's in, it might tick off to like four

766
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: four and a half if he's out. So yeah, it's

767
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: outdoor pumpkin golf in conditions.

768
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: So it's safe. It's safe to say. If Lafleur on

769
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: Monday had just announced Malik Willis is going to start

770
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: this week, Jordan Love is for sure out. This line's

771
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: closer to five than it works. It's now three and

772
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: a half, four and a half, five or do you

773
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: think Malik Willis has shown enough? Because to me, when

774
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: I saw this number, obviously you knew when you saw

775
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: the number, Jordan Love's in question. I mean, hell, he

776
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: couldn't even finish the game on Sunday. This was the

777
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: number one game that stood out. It's like, wait, Packers

778
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: at Home. I mean, Halfley has been a huge upgrade

779
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: for them. You just watch them play. I mean they

780
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: had been. They just had games where they were like

781
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: a joke the last couple of years with Joe Berry.

782
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: Uh And to me, it feels they tackle better. Obviously

783
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: it's hard. I mean they're playing Trevor Lawrence, who's turnover king.

784
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: So he throws I mean just a horrendous pick backed

785
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: up into his own end zone. He had another terrible fumble.

786
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: But they have been creating turnovers. And the other thing is, listen,

787
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. Coming into the year,

788
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, you trade for Malik Willis? What are

789
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: you guys doing? This is insane. I think we talked

790
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: about it like we just got a fit, and then

791
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: you watch him play, You're like, fucking Lafleur, who is

792
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: this guy? Bill waltsh what he did?

793
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Now?

794
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: I actually kind of have faith because even one they

795
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: just won't try to, you know, put too much on

796
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: his shoulders. Jacobs's stud Malik can run. I think he's

797
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: averaging over eight yards of carry. And let's face it,

798
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: their weapons, I mean, their tight ends of stud all

799
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: their receivers are pretty dynamic. Like they can just manipulate

800
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: plays a little like Shanahan can do. It's like, Okay,

801
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: things aren't working, Just throw some quick screens. Just get

802
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: the ball in our hands behind the line of scrimmage

803
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: and we can gain yards that way. I just think

804
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: this is an auto packer hammer. Even you know, Sunday

805
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: comes and doesn't go your way. It's just it's one

806
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: hundred percent the right bet because like you said, everyone is.

807
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: Lions just win one hundred to nothing against the Titans.

808
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: Their quarterback didn't even throw for one hundred yards. I mean,

809
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: that's got to be a statistical outlier in the history

810
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: of the league. A team scores over fifty points with

811
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: a quarterback thrown in the eighties, that's has that ever

812
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 2: happened before?

813
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: I would highly doubt it. The Yeah, I mean, also

814
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: you have this. I mean historically, if you look at

815
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: teams that the previous week won by thirty five plus

816
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Fading them the next week, you're, you

817
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: know about round sixty five percent against the spread. Same

818
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: thing as if you bet on a team that loses

819
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: by thirty five plus, very good bet usually the next week.

820
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean this line wild probably at four

821
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: and a half. The other thing is if you get

822
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: willis like the Lions can be got by mobile quarterbacks,

823
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: and Love probably wouldn't be at one hundred percent, So

824
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't mind it either way. Just anything over a

825
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: field goal is what I was looking for there.

826
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: When you say this game is more important for green

827
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Bay as well, They've already lost to Minnesota at home.

828
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: So to have two home losses against two teams that

829
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: obviously not just in your division, but I mean teams

830
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: that can win your division like that, that'd be a

831
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: pretty big problem. If you told them at the beginning

832
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: of the year you're going to lose multiple home divisional

833
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: games and you're a Super Bowl contender or a division

834
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: contender like That's not something any coach or organization or

835
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: fan base signs up for. So this is to me,

836
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: this game is much bigger for green Bay than Detroit

837
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: especially like okay Detroit's they'd have the same amount of

838
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: losses if Detroit would lose, but one of their losses

839
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: was on that free Tampa game. They still control their

840
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: own destiny of their home games in the division, right,

841
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: and they've already gone on the road and won at Minnesota,

842
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: so it's it would not be as big a deal

843
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: in my opinion for Detroit losing this game.

844
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we talked about it last week on

845
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: like betting the Packers to win the division was the

846
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: time to do it last week, feeling that the Rams

847
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: will beat the Vikings, and I bet the Jags and

848
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: the Packers ended up winning and not covering, so that

849
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: was good for that bet. But you're right, this is

850
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: a huge game for them because they they then't go

851
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: into a bye week, but then they're at Chicago. Won't

852
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: be an easy game home against presumably a healthier San

853
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: Francisco team, home against Miami who's healthier now than at

854
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: Detroit at Seattle, home against New Orleans who's getting healthier.

855
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: At Minnesota, and then you you know, finish out the

856
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: year with the Bears at home, so it's not an

857
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: easy finish to the year. And then timing wise, you're

858
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: getting a lot of these teams. You know, things could change,

859
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: but that look like they're going to be getting healthier.

860
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: Playing Seattle with DK Metcalf or without the k Metcalf

861
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: is a big deal.

862
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and their defense too, has been ravaged by like

863
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: Detroit got to play Seattle when They're defense was ravaged

864
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: by injuries. They're probably going to be a lot healthier

865
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: later in the year. So, yeah, this is an important

866
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: game for green Bay looking forward to it. But yeah,

867
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: goffin conditions usually he just turns into a completely different quarterback.

868
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: You know, another number that jumped out to me is

869
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: Denver plus nine at Baltimore. Obviously, Baltimore has kind of

870
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: turned into a pumpkin in some of these second halfs

871
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: on defense, and these teams have been able to score

872
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: on them. Clearly Cleveland is just a completely different team.

873
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: You Know, one thing I thought, just big picture on

874
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: the Monday night game is like Baltimore and Pittsburgh didn't

875
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: get to play Cleveland when de Sean Watson was playing.

876
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: So you know, all four of those games, obviously Baltimore

877
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: lost one, but both the games in Cleveland, you're gonna

878
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: get just a much more credible team, right, They're gonna

879
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: be a much tougher out. Obviously defensively in their passing

880
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: game is completely different. I mean that's aside from here,

881
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: but Baltimore dropping that game. But it's like their pass defense,

882
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: it's just a problem. And obviously Denver. I wouldn't exactly

883
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: say is Peyton manning Denver offense? But one thing bo

884
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: Nicks has shown is like he kind of heats up

885
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: as the game goes on. Their defense is pretty good.

886
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: I was not saying that they're gonna win this game,

887
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 2: but it's hard to feel comfortable with Baltimore. I mean

888
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: the injury status of some of their guys was you

889
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: know Wiggins was out last week, right, Humphrey's out. Are

890
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: those guys playing this week?

891
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look it looks like Humphrey and Wiggins will be back,

892
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: which is important. I mean, the Ravens have been pretty

893
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: unlucky on defense, Like they have the most dropped interceptions.

894
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: They had like three or four last week. And if

895
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: you look who they played, like if you look at

896
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: their schedule, they played Mahomes, they played the Raiders. When

897
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: they had DeVante, they played the Cowboys, so they played

898
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Dak Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jayden Daniels, and then

899
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: they had to play the Browns with a competent quarterback.

900
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: And then you know, they played the Bucks when they

901
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: had their weapons until later in that game. So their

902
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: schedule has, I mean, the opposing pass offenses that they

903
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: faced has been about as difficult as anyway. They've also

904
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: been extremely unlucky in penalties. If you look at judgment

905
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: call penalties, you know, things like PI They've had seventeen

906
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: more than their opponents, which is in insane number. It's

907
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: the most of the NFL by far. I like the

908
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: Ravens first half. So Lamar Jackson for what it's worth,

909
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: in the first half in his career, he's done. He's

910
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: the most profitable first half against sprit quarterback in NFL history.

911
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: He's fifty four to twenty nine and two sixty five

912
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: percent covering by over a field goal per game in

913
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: the first half. As a favorite, he's even better forty six,

914
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: twenty three and two sixty seven percent covered by four

915
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: points per game. That's just a stupid number for one

916
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: half football. And then when laying six or more eleven

917
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: three and one against the spread, close to eighty percent,

918
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: covering by five points per game. Why is that, Well,

919
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: Ravens usually have a pretty good game plan and then

920
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: it takes defense as a bit to get used to,

921
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, his speed and getting those angles right, especially

922
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: when he's playing non divisional team. Mentioned the raven should

923
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: be healthier in the secondary. They and look, I look

924
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: at the and you can't run the ball in Baltimore.

925
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: They're the number one run defense in the NFL. They

926
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: did lose Michael Pierce, so the depth on the defensive

927
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: lines a bit concerning. But it's a pass final defense,

928
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: am I? And the Broncos have been good when they

929
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: can get their run game going. Am I really concerned

930
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: about bo Knicks and this Broncos offense exploiting Baltimore's pass defense?

931
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: Not really. I mean what you need is like an

932
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: elite quarterback and good receivers. That's how you can really attack.

933
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: There's like two really good receivers you can attack this

934
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: Ravens defense and look, bow Knicks, You're right for the

935
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 1: full game. The Ravens have blown leads and brow Knicks

936
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: has been a garbage time merchant. I mean, if you

937
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: break out his numbers, he's put up so much of

938
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: his stats when you know the game is out of

939
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: Handley to go back to that Chargers game, it was

940
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: twenty one nothing, and you know he led three scoring

941
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: drives late in that game. If you look, if you

942
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: just isolate Nix's early game numbers, and that includes a

943
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: game against the Panthers who have nothing on defense and

944
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: were decimated, the Saints who were decimated by injury and

945
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: have nothing, you know, and they got to play Bryce

946
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: Young and Spencer Rattler. Of the last two weeks, I

947
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: mean the Broncos schedule, if you look they played They

948
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: opened the year with the Seahawks, and they played the

949
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: Steelers and Justin Field's been benched. The Broncos had a

950
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Bucks had a ton of defensive injuries.

951
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: But then they played the Jets, who have not been good.

952
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: But it was in a yeah, true windstorm and yeah

953
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: torrential Downpoard. Then they played the Raiders, the Chargers, the

954
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: Broncos and Panthers backups like they their schedule of opposing

955
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: offense complete opposite end of the spectrum of the Raivens.

956
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: This will be a shot to the system for their defense,

957
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: which blitzes.

958
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: A ton Sean Payton even admitted it. Yeah, he was like, yeah,

959
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: it's kind of a joke. Guy, I wouldn't make too

960
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 2: much of that game.

961
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, he was like, yeah, we knew that

962
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: we were what was gonna happen?

963
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: What do you think of your defense? He's like, yeah,

964
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: it's hard to even tell against that offense. Like, can

965
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: you imagine being a Carolina fan or a coach like that?

966
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: That's and obviously he'll talk a little more shit than most,

967
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: but still, that's that was pretty crazy.

968
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, insane. You don't you don't usually see

969
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: that in the NFL. But Nicks he minus point one

970
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: four or five adjusted EPR play per play in the

971
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: first half. Only Deshaun Watson has been worse, and Knicks

972
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: has been even worse in the first quarter. Uh so

973
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: in the first half he's been really bad. So yeah,

974
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: Ravens have a propensity to blow leads. Knicks has been

975
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: good in the in garbage time, so I wouldn't be

976
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: surprised if they end up covering. But I like the

977
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: Ravens off the loss at home against this Broncos defense.

978
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: This could be a like a really a shock to

979
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: the system, especially with Lamar's feed and the Ravens offense

980
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: is just rolling right now. Broncos Blitz a Ton Lamar

981
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: has been absolutely dominant against the Blitz this season. So

982
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: I like the Ravens first half. But don't mind your

983
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: Broncos player.

984
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 2: I do think you know Baltimore, this is a game

985
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: like no one takes Denver that seriously. Like they may

986
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: make the seventh seed and everyone will bet against them

987
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: in the first round. I think we're gonna learn a

988
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: lot about the Ravens because last year, which obviously they

989
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: were better because their defense was so dominant, what do

990
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: they win this game? Forty to nine? I mean, they

991
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: would destroy these guys, and this is this is a

992
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: spot like this is the Ravens team if they are

993
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: who I think we thought they were gonna become the

994
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks and then what happened with jamis

995
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 2: that they win this game pretty handily. But I just

996
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: don't trust them right now because I just their past defense.

997
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: But like you said, you bring up good points about

998
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks they've played and bow Knicks, who I just

999
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: saw to day won the offensive Rookie of the Month.

1000
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not quite sure how that happened, but I

1001
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: guess they don't factor in you know, fourth quarter Hollo stats.

1002
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: And I'm not some bow Knicks hater, but he wouldn't

1003
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: have gotten my vote if they sent me about I

1004
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 2: know that. Uh So, yeah, there's a big moment for ball.

1005
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: There's a bigger moment for Baltimore than it is for Denver.

1006
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: Uh obviously Denver the next couple of weeks. I mean,

1007
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna be huge underdogs against Baltimore. I

1008
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: mean they are in Kansas City, but like, this is

1009
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: a moment for Baltimore. It's like, okay, do do we?

1010
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: Everyone was just like, God, damn, this team gonna win

1011
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl again. And you know it's just that

1012
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: that team last year. Offensively, they're better right now. Right

1013
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: Andrews is healthy, you know, Derrick Henry just brings him

1014
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: an element. Lamar even looks better. But that defense, I mean,

1015
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: that was that was why it's so much faith. I

1016
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: mean what they did to the Niners going into that

1017
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs games like this is this who's beating this team?

1018
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: And it's like when you had to have bad bass defense,

1019
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: even when you play random quarterbacks, it can bite you

1020
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: in the ass.

1021
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, not for sure, but that the Broncs just don't

1022
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: have a receiver. It like, and you go back to

1023
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: it like these go back to the Raves in this

1024
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: spot historically at home dominate dominated, and like it was

1025
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: similar to the Bills, right, the Bills hadn't played anybody,

1026
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: and everyone was calling them the Super Bowl favorite, and

1027
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: they went into Baltimore and couldn't move the ball, and

1028
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, with a mobile quarterback Tina wants to run it,

1029
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: they don't really, They didn't have a number really dominant,

1030
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: number one receiver and this game could end up going

1031
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: the same way. But the Ravens just they they just

1032
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: find ways to blow leads sometimes. So there certainly could

1033
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: be a backdoor here. But I like the Ravens that

1034
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: jump out early.

1035
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: Okay, before we dive into Indie Minnesota another number that

1036
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: jumped out to me because I actually thought, you know,

1037
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: we talk about all these shitty teams. I mean, Carolina

1038
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: is probably the most embarrassing team in recent memory because

1039
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: unlike that Hugh Jackson Brown's team who was legitimately trying

1040
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: to win, that Miami team while Flores tried, you know,

1041
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: they kind of tanked in terms of their roster trading

1042
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: everybody like this team is. They have injuries, they are

1043
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: desperately trying every week. Did you see the viral photo

1044
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: or video of them running a play. I think this

1045
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: was two weeks ago, Like all slants, and every slant

1046
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 2: was like different timing, Like it was just like it

1047
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: was four or five wide. Every guy was running slant,

1048
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: and like they all broke at different times, you know,

1049
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: like when you watch a great offense, it's all in sync.

1050
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: It was just like, God, this is just they just stink.

1051
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: But so to me, the Jags are better than the Titans,

1052
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 2: are better than the Panthers, are better than the Patriots,

1053
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: but god, they're quarterback man. Just every time it's like, eh,

1054
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: they're playing pretty well, then he just hits a dude

1055
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: in stride or just the ball falls out of his hand.

1056
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: But this number, to me, is pretty big. And I

1057
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 2: understand Philly, Like, is Philly just gonna have like three

1058
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 2: straight games where they just blow people out? Now, clearly

1059
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: they're better, but this is a classic game at home,

1060
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: Like all of a sudden it's tied at half. You

1061
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 2: may hear a couple of booze. I could to see

1062
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: it getting a little weird to me. This is just

1063
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 2: kind of an auto over a touchdown, Like is Philly

1064
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: that good? Where just you're playing a team that is capable. Now,

1065
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk shatters his collar bone, which is a pretty

1066
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: big blow given that they were probably gonna flip him

1067
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: probably a fourth round pick, and he's just a good player,

1068
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: so he helps their offense. But I just this number

1069
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 2: plus even and a half, I don't know, it's it's

1070
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: pretty big. Little Doug Peterson revenge, you know fired. I

1071
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: don't know that that number jumped out to me.

1072
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I can't play. Yeah, I need the I

1073
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: need the injury report. I mean, you have.

1074
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: The Giets trade a tackle.

1075
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't started in the last two games, but

1076
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't played. But I think they knew that they

1077
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: were gonna trade him. But his replacement little isn't very good.

1078
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: The problem is you did trade your left tackles. He

1079
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: downgraded there too. Your two guards got hurt last week,

1080
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: they didn't practice on Wednesday. You're you could be down

1081
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: all three starting receivers. At the end of that game,

1082
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: the Jagons were down five starters on offense.

1083
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: Because Brian Tomas got hurt.

1084
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, they need Brian Thomas here, otherwise you're down

1085
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: to Tim Jones and.

1086
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm out. I'm out on that.

1087
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I like the injury situation on offense is

1088
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: really bad. They also play man at the highest rate

1089
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: in the league. Eagles, specifically A J Brown.

1090
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: Their their defense. The defense defense.

1091
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: They did get. They have Tyson Campbell back, who's who's

1092
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: really good, and he's their best corner, and without him

1093
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: playing man was a fool's errand. But the Eagles have

1094
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: historically torched man. It's and and it looks like their

1095
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: defense might be getting better under Fangio. It's a complex scheme,

1096
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: looks like some of the young corners are starting to

1097
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: pick it up. And you know, I thought, hey, look,

1098
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: I can't really take much from this because they played

1099
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and then they played Daniel Jones without Andrew

1100
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: Thomas at left tackle. But they played well against Cincy,

1101
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: and granted since he also lost its left tackle and

1102
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: didn't have T Higgins, so you know, there there is

1103
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: some noise in the numbers. But historically Fangio's defenses take

1104
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: them some time. Maybe they've hit that point where they've

1105
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: started to pick it up. But I can't play it yet,

1106
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, taking the seven half, I wouldn't blame you,

1107
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: but you need like at least one of the guards

1108
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: in and then I need Thomas because you know, if

1109
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,959
Speaker 1: you're to say you're down three of your offensive lineman

1110
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: from two weeks ago and all three starting wide receivers,

1111
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: even Tank Bigsby's is banged up, that's tough.

1112
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 2: I think it's crazy looking back that if LSU just

1113
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: had the level of defense that they have right now,

1114
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that team should have won the National champions

1115
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: I mean they had Brian Thomas, Malik Neighbors, and Jayden Daniels.

1116
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean their defense was.

1117
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: So shitty bad, so bad.

1118
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine if they just had an

1119
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: average SEC defense that team? Who's how do they not?

1120
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty crazy if it's why that I

1121
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: was like, you know, Jade's gonna come back to Earth.

1122
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: Look who he was throwing to. It's like, no, actually,

1123
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: he's just pretty sweet. And those guys coming into the league.

1124
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're putting Elik Dabers on just a

1125
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: decent team, and obviously Brian Thomas is just every time

1126
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: you look up, he's like, God, this guy's sweet too,

1127
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: and that's listen, it's hard to top Jefferson Chase one

1128
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: two college combination, but shit, that doesn't feel too far off.

1129
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, their losses last year, they gave up forty five

1130
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: to Florida State, Ole Miss scored like fifty fifty five.

1131
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: That game was fifty five to forty nine, and then

1132
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: they lost to Alabama. So there are three teams that

1133
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: top tier teams last year. And I mean that the

1134
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: Old Miss game, they were up fourteen in the fourth

1135
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: quarter and they gave up a touchdown ninety yard touchdown

1136
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: drive in the final two minutes to lose that game.

1137
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, just silly offense. If you're right, you're right.

1138
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: If they just had any semblance of a defense, they

1139
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: would have been scary.

1140
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: Butt.

1141
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like, if you look at their scores, it's

1142
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: just you know, there are other games seventy two, forty one,

1143
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: thirty four, forty nine. These are gonsastise teams forty nine

1144
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: forty eight. You know, they beat Army sixty two to

1145
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: nothing Florida, they'd be fifty two thirty five Texas A

1146
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: and them to be forty two thirty I won offense.

1147
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: Like obviously, you know I'm not trying to overreact to

1148
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: the first These guys have long careers going, but like

1149
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: the hype and it had like an Andrew Luck Trevor

1150
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: Lawrence feel you didn't have a choice. You had to

1151
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: take them, and clearly they liked them. But like I

1152
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: wonder right now, if you just pulled the thirty two GMS,

1153
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: what quarterback would you take today for the next ten years,

1154
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: jayde Daniels or Caleb Williams. I would imagine it would

1155
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: be heavily in Jane Daniel's favor, don't you think?

1156
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: I agree? Yeah? I I definitely was not in that

1157
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: vote either take me either, Like there was some like

1158
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: because I like you was like, look, he was playing.

1159
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: He had a really good offensive line too, like one

1160
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: of the best offensive lines. Got two NFL tackles two yeah,

1161
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: two and two first round draft picks at receiver, and

1162
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: he's like pressure to sack numbers are pretty concerning, but

1163
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: he's so far man, he's looked apart. Yeah, I would

1164
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: think that as of right now, most would take Daniels

1165
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: over Caleb.

1166
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: I said it even as the game, you know, they

1167
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: were kicking field goals. Like if you're watching a football

1168
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: and you're just watching the guy play. You're like, this

1169
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: guy is already one of the better players in the NFL.

1170
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, more mobile, is more running ability than Caleb. I mean,

1171
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: Caleb is mobile and can run too, but not like Daniels.

1172
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: And that's the that's the You.

1173
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: Remember how Raw, Remember how Raw? When Lamar first started,

1174
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: he was as a passer. Like what he has done

1175
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: these last couple of years. He is. It's crazy how

1176
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: much he's improved, and now he's just a dominant Hall

1177
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: of Fame player. But like this guy kind of came in.

1178
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't think he's quite as dynamic as a runner

1179
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: as Lamar. I'll never forget. Like I think Lamar maybe

1180
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: a bad Bengals team had this just incredible run against

1181
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: the Bengals, Like its first couple of starts, it was like,

1182
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: holy shit. It it might have been his MVP year

1183
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: the next year, but it was just incredible. This guy

1184
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: throws it like I didn't realize he throws it this well,

1185
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: like the throws over the middle. The stick throws it's

1186
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: like and he's got a hose, like it's just a

1187
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: tight spiral lasers. Yeah, Caleb, Caleb just you know, shotgun

1188
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: blasts all over the place.

1189
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: Daniels is exponentially more accurate and more polish as the

1190
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: paster than Lamar was when he first came in the league.

1191
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking about a guy that's not polished, Anthony Richardson,

1192
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: who is objectively terrible, I saw. I didn't see it

1193
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: till yesterday. The comments Ryan Kelly, who's I don't know,

1194
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: probably the Colts' top two or three player on the team.

1195
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: Their center up said, I mean you you never hear

1196
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: a player talk like yeah, we had to sit him

1197
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: down and talk to like this is not acceptable. So clearly,

1198
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: once that kind of video goes viral, separate from the

1199
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: numbers on the on the field, which were obviously awful,

1200
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: and throughout the entire season, it was like, there's no

1201
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: way this guy is gonna start next week, Like I

1202
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: didn't know if they were going to do it like

1203
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: in perpetuity, Like they ended up doing it, but it's like,

1204
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: you can't Jonathan Taylor. These guys are laying on the

1205
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: line in this guy, it's like it's over for him,

1206
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: and they go to Flacco, who, let's face it, has

1207
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: had one of the craziest career resurrections in like the

1208
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: history of sports. It really. I mean, this guy was

1209
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 2: out of the NFL, and then the last couple of

1210
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: years when he was a backup, it was like this,

1211
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? And now he's not just

1212
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: like he is easily he ran circles around a guy

1213
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: making two hundred thirty million dollars In the fourth overall

1214
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: pick where you watch him take like two series, You're like,

1215
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: it's not even close to the gap between this guy

1216
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: and the guys he's replacing. I do wonder if Indy

1217
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 2: gets just a huge life bump of like I wonder

1218
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: if a lot of guys look around, because I saw

1219
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: it with Trey Lance. Now Anthony Richinson's better than Trey Lance,

1220
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: but it's like they're high end players. Didn't believe in them,

1221
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: and it's like Ryan Kelly, Jonathan Taylor, like these guys

1222
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: are trying to win every game. Why because they're like

1223
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: big time players and they plan on going to the playoffs.

1224
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: The Niners are a better version of the Cold Steam.

1225
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: But they looked around like, kind, we can't win with

1226
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 2: this guy. Like obviously Kyle turned on him, but I

1227
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: also think he was influenced by Deebo, Samuel Trent Williams,

1228
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: Fred Warner, Like this guy ain't good enough, bro, And

1229
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: I do think that adds life when you think, like

1230
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 2: obviously Joe Flacco is like his numbers are probably better

1231
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: than he actually is. You know, Is that you understand

1232
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, Like people would not be lined

1233
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: up to sign this guy if he was a free

1234
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: agent to like some one year, twenty five million dollars deal,

1235
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 2: But relative to what they're playing with, it is such

1236
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: a massive upgrade. Now, Minnesota coming off the Mini. By that,

1237
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: I mean losing your left tackle, I mean, hotly, shit,

1238
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: that's that's how good is that guy? I mean that's

1239
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: a huge blow. I mean he's a big reason Trent

1240
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: Williams held out. It's like, well, this is the best

1241
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: young left tackle. He's making twenty eight and like, well

1242
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: I need more than that guy. But that guy deserved

1243
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: every penny he got. And to lose him for the season,

1244
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: I mean the backup immediately started getting shoved around by

1245
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: a rookie. So, like the Colts personnel's not great. But

1246
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: the one thing I think every time that you watch

1247
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: him play, I would say, over they are it feels

1248
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: like they play really hard. Do you agree with that?

1249
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: Like the defense relative to their talent. I just think

1250
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 2: in D plus five in this spot kind of an

1251
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: auto hammer for me.

1252
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: The one thing I don't get, though, is why announced

1253
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: that they're going to start Flacco. Black Ow and Richardson

1254
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: are obviously very different quarterbacks. Your offense is completely different

1255
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: with Flacco.

1256
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: Because it was because it was that it was that bad.

1257
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 2: Like the locker room. It just that they didn't even

1258
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: they couldn't play the game, but they but everyone would

1259
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: want to talk to Richardson. He doesn't even know what

1260
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: he's saying. He still doesn't I don't think quite realize.

1261
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: Like every time you hear him talk, it's like, I

1262
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: don't think he realized. Every single player, whether you're a

1263
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: thirty five year old retired guy or like a fifty

1264
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: eight year old on TV, they've all reiterated the same thing,

1265
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: and yet you hear him talk, it's like, yeah, guys,

1266
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 2: I don't think he understands anything you guys are saying.

1267
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: Even Ryan Kelly was like, I just don't think he

1268
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: gets it. So I don't think you had a choice

1269
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: to like the circus. Yeah, I think I think that.

1270
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: I think that was a big part of it. It

1271
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: wasn't one of those like, let's say they know all

1272
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 2: along Jordan Love has no chance to play this week,

1273
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: and he's just playing it up. That's like there's no

1274
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: circus there this thing. I mean, that's one of the

1275
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: crazier It's weird because he's not that crazy when you

1276
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 2: think he's just miss to play, but when you factor

1277
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: in wait your quarterback, he never comes out, it is

1278
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: pretty nuts. I mean it's unprecedented. It's literally never happened

1279
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: for a non injury, right, It's like, wait, what happened?

1280
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: He's just he's just gasped, yes, question now, I.

1281
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: Mean, why did he running that out? We have why

1282
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: say that out loud?

1283
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 3: Though?

1284
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: Like because he doesn't get he doesn't get he doesn't

1285
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: get it. He doesn't get it.

1286
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, to your Flacco point, I mean yeah, I

1287
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: think the hype is a little too much in trust mean,

1288
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: a Ravens fan, I love Flacco, but he did most

1289
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: of his damage this year against the Jags secondary that

1290
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: was just completely decimated by injury. You know, he threw

1291
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: for close to four hundred yards in that game, but.

1292
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: In two of those touchdowns. Two of those touchdowns were

1293
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: late in the fourth quarter, right, One was definitely a

1294
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,959
Speaker 2: blown coverage with the guy was wide open.

1295
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: Yep, you know. Against Pitt they were already up fourteen nothing.

1296
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: He was sixteen to twenty six for one hundred and

1297
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: sixty yards. Against the Titans, who thought Richardson was gonna play,

1298
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: They weren't even preparing for Flacko. He was twenty two

1299
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: of thirty eight for one eighty nine. It's a game

1300
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: they won by three on a late touch down pass.

1301
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: So you know, it's been one game where he's been

1302
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: really good. I you know, and the Colts this year,

1303
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: they're seven and one against the spread. Like all their

1304
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: games are one possession, so they just find ways to cover.

1305
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 1: Their wins are over the Dolphins with a backup quarterback,

1306
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 1: the Steelers with now they're you know, with a backup

1307
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 1: quarterback with Russ Now starting, the Bears, and the Titans,

1308
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: so you know, but there are other they are losses

1309
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: development by one possession. What I like in this game,

1310
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: I like the Vikings first half minus three off two

1311
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: losses at home in prime time, one of the best

1312
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: home field advantages in the NFL with an at least yeah,

1313
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: with an elite coaching staff. So and here's the thing.

1314
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: The Colts.

1315
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: You're right, they play hard. They've gotten healthier on defense,

1316
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: but they play a very basic scheme and when they do,

1317
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: when Gus Bradley does adjust, he doesn't really do until

1318
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: the second half. Go back to the Green Bay game

1319
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: when they played Malik Willis, they apparently refuse to adjust

1320
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: to the run. Dream Bay almost set an NFL record

1321
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: in the first half for rushing yards and then they

1322
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: finally in the second half brought more guys up into

1323
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: the box and had an extra defensive lineman. I don't

1324
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: know why they didn't adjust in the first half. I mean,

1325
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: it was insane. I think the Packers are into like

1326
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: Threehilli yards in the first half. So have you give

1327
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: O'Connell extra time to repairrier for a pretty basic defense,

1328
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: and it's not a defense is gonna blitz a lot.

1329
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: Not a defense is gonna get a ton of pressure.

1330
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 1: So you don't have to worry as much about losing Gasol,

1331
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: which I do think is big, especially for their season

1332
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: long prospects. But the Vikings of offense this year has

1333
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: been dominant early and that's because O'Connell's script, which I

1334
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: think will be even better here. But if you look

1335
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: Vikings been the best first quarter offense in the NFL.

1336
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: They've been great in the first half, but their bottom

1337
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: third if you look EPA or success right in the

1338
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: second half, bottom third in the league. Even the Vikings

1339
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: defense is better than the first half because boys usually

1340
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: have some good wrinkles and a good game plan as well.

1341
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: Vikings on the season are winning the first by over

1342
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: a touchdown per game. They've only trailed once against Detroit

1343
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: who seems to just have their number, and they've Johnson

1344
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: seems to have Flora's number. If you look at their

1345
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: results last year too, there are other six games you

1346
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,839
Speaker 1: removed that the Troy game, they've led by an average

1347
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: of over ten points per game. And then if you

1348
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: look Colts in the first half, twenty seventh at EPA

1349
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: per play on offense thirty first in success rate. They've

1350
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: only let it the half in two games they didn't

1351
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: even lead at home against the Dolphins with their backup

1352
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: quarterback or the Packers with their backup quarterback. Bradley, like

1353
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: I said, slow to adjust, Vikings off two straight losses

1354
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: in primetime, extra time for bear, for really good staff,

1355
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: for Floraz, Gonna bring the Blitz, Gonna bring the exotic Blitz.

1356
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: The Colts offense and Flacco specifically has been really, really,

1357
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: really bad against the Blitz this year. So I think

1358
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings jump out here. Wouldn't be surprised if the

1359
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: Colts end up covering, But I think this is a

1360
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: good spot for the Vikings in the first half.

1361
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: You know, one interesting game is you know that Rams performance.

1362
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean, they're just a different team when they have

1363
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: the two receivers and their defense, I mean, Jared Versus

1364
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 2: is really coming on. They're just like every year, I feel,

1365
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: just solid and well coached. As the season goes on,

1366
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: that line flipped right now it's Seattle at home getting

1367
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: one and a half. If you are a believer that

1368
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: this RAMS team is coming and you look at their schedule,

1369
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: it's not crazy to look up and they're six and four,

1370
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 2: but it's like it's just too good to be true,

1371
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 2: or Seattle just you know, are they seriously leaking oil?

1372
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 2: Even what's his name, Mike McDonald, They asked about Halloween.

1373
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: He said, I dressed up for Bill Belichick one time

1374
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 2: for Halloween, but he probably wouldn't like that given how

1375
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 2: our defense is played. And you know, this game used

1376
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: to be it was weird the NFC West matchups back

1377
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: when they had you know, Pete, Kyle, Sean and and

1378
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 2: Cliff would all have these like intermix pretty cool little

1379
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: riot like one team on the other team but this

1380
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: team on that team. And I don't know if you

1381
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 2: kind of throw that out the window now, but this

1382
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 2: is a spot that I would say historically I would

1383
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: feel kind of good about Pete in that team, but

1384
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't know right now. Seattle was, you know, the

1385
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: apple of everyone's eye early in the season, but they

1386
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: clearly are leaking oil in the in the Rams also,

1387
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 2: like Minnesota coming off that little mini by are healthy

1388
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: now and it's crazy you just kind of forget because

1389
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: he's out of side, out of mind. How fucking good

1390
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 2: Pooka nakoup is. I mean, he is a he's a

1391
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: baller and he just changes their team.

1392
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Yeah, you're right, there was. I used

1393
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: to call it the circle of life. In the NFC West,

1394
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: the Rams owned the Cardinals, who owned the forty nine ers.

1395
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals used to always they did it again this year

1396
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: own the Rams, and the Rams also owned the Seahawks,

1397
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: who also for a long time owned the forty nine ers,

1398
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: and like it was just all this circle of life

1399
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: in the NFC West, but that was me. I think

1400
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: that could change now because I'll be interest from a

1401
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: schematic perspective. I'm really looking forward to seeing McVeigh extra

1402
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: time of Riverrier versus McDonald. One of the reasons the

1403
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 1: Rams just owned the Seahawks is the Rams and mcdagh

1404
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: just cracked that outdated pete defense and it's a completely

1405
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: different defense now, much more modern defense. McVeigh talked a

1406
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: lot in the offseason about McDonald in this matchup, so

1407
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what he has up his sleeve,

1408
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to see what McDonald has up his

1409
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: sleep Seattle. This like this is a good on paper,

1410
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: it's a good bounce back spot for Seattle.

1411
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 2: They were and these guys and these guys played them

1412
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 2: like you know that those divisions crossover last year. So

1413
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 2: like Kyle had played McDonald McVeigh, they played that epic

1414
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: game where Stafford was incredible, but they ended up sucking

1415
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 2: up the special teams right in the lost and overtime.

1416
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I'm very I'm very fascinated to watch this,

1417
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: Like the x's and o's of this game, but just

1418
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: on paper, it's like a great by low spot on Seattle.

1419
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: They were thoroughly embarrassed last week. Every phase of the game.

1420
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: They had defenders fighting each other on the sideline, they

1421
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: had Gino.

1422
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: Getting They calmed down though and made up. They did

1423
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 2: five minutes after that. Yeah, but it was just a

1424
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: mess like that.

1425
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: The game just slipped away from them. I mean they

1426
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: were on the goal line twice. Gino slips on fourth

1427
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: and goal trips on the center's foot. They have a

1428
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: snap over their Gino's head on the other time. So

1429
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: the game could have went a little differently, but they

1430
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: were just bad all around. Now I expect their defense

1431
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: to be better. They got their top cornerback last week,

1432
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: Trey Brown. I don't know if he lost his job

1433
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: or if he's just not healthy, but he could be back.

1434
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: Their other corner got a good nickel, you know. They

1435
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: added Ernest Jones at linebacker. They're getting healthier up front,

1436
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: so I think that their defense is going to start

1437
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 1: the trend back up. They were just crushed by injuries.

1438
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 1: Now it's very difficult to stop this Rams offense, but

1439
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: just on paper, you would expect a bounce back from Seattle. Here.

1440
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: The key for me, And look, the Bills were just

1441
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: laying three in Seattle and the market knew Metcalf wasn't

1442
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 1: gonna play. And now we're getting up to like Rams

1443
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: minus two. Like that's the Bills are more than a point,

1444
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: and they're probably in market. They're probably like three to

1445
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 1: four points better than than the Rams. So we're getting

1446
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: and you might get Metcalf back. For me, that's the

1447
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: key from me. I'll bet the Seahawks is a dog

1448
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: plus one and a half plus two. If I know

1449
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: Metcalf is gonna play now, is gonna be one hundred percent.

1450
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: That's the tricky bar. The Seahawks need Metcalf. Not only

1451
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: I think he has the most or second most twenty

1452
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: plus yard catches on the season, so he adds that

1453
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 1: explosive element, but he also takes the top off the defense,

1454
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: clears everything up underneath, and opens up the entire offense.

1455
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 1: Without him, then he don't really have that explosive element.

1456
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: The guys have to, you know, trying to fill that

1457
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: number one role, and then your freeze is way down

1458
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: and the whole offense is just a lost operation. So

1459
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: I have to wait on the on the Metcalf news.

1460
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: If Metcalf doesn't play, it's hard for me to see

1461
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: Seattle keeping up. So just on principle I would I

1462
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: would stay away, but you did. Seattle also could get

1463
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: George Fan back at right tackle. I don't think Lucas

1464
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: is ready, even though his window opened off the ir

1465
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: Their right tackle position has been a disaster. They're down

1466
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: to like their fourth string right now. So getting Fan

1467
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: at least will help put a band aid there for now.

1468
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this is a good bilow Cell

1469
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: high spot on Seattle, just philosophically, and but for me

1470
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: it comes down to Metcalf neymore.

1471
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 2: That's that to me is the other game is like,

1472
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: you know, everyone's kind of riding high Arizona. Everyone's down

1473
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 2: on Chicago because the last play.

1474
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: Now.

1475
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: The thing with Arizona, two of their four wins at

1476
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: least I know off the top of my head right

1477
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: have been double digits in the second half comebacks. And

1478
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: they went by one and the Charger game.

1479
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: And one, and they probably should have lost all there.

1480
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: They down my double digits to the forty nine Ers.

1481
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: The kicker gets hurt down double digits to the Dolphins,

1482
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: who snap it over their head for a safety when

1483
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: they were in control of that game. Flips the whole

1484
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: game against the Chargers, the Charge They've recovered all three

1485
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 1: key fumbles in that game, come back to win. You know,

1486
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: even have like a fumble through the end zone that

1487
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: was a touchback. The Chargers had one. They've been games

1488
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: and it's.

1489
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 2: Third and ten when they drove to win the game

1490
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: and they got that personal foul call. That was pretty iffy.

1491
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: You know that they that easily could have been a

1492
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 2: turnover on down situation because they don't complete that all

1493
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's just the game's over. But I

1494
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: am fascinated. Like the Bears, their coaching staff is struggling, right,

1495
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you watch Shane Waldron. It's bad clearly that

1496
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: you know, the last couple of moments. You know, the

1497
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: last moment, is it ebra Flus's fault, that Stevenson's you

1498
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: know taunting? No, but clearly like is he doing that

1499
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 2: against a high end coach like that would just never

1500
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 2: be tolerated. But it's the play before where they just

1501
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 2: gave up fifteen yards and put them into position. Even

1502
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 2: Belichick's talked about that, like mccordy talked about that on

1503
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: the Sunday night game. He's like, that was a big

1504
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 2: deal with us. We would play defense on that one

1505
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 2: to not allow those free ten to fifteen yards to

1506
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: give them an opportunity. You got to take that away.

1507
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do score a touchdown from seventy yards?

1508
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: Probably not, so you can be a little aggressive. But

1509
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like to me, Chicago, I just don't

1510
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: have much trust now yesterday, as of Wednesday, Sweat didn't

1511
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: practice and he looked awesome in that game. Maybe it's

1512
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: just a rest date for a veteran guy. But if

1513
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 2: if there is some injury issue there that that'd be

1514
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: a little scary. I don't know, man, I just this

1515
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 2: is to me, there are seasons kind of on the line.

1516
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: If you're the Bears, when you look at their schedule,

1517
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: if they want to compete for a wildcard spot, they

1518
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 2: were to lose this game, Like I'm sorry, you're not

1519
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: sniffing the playoffs. You win this game, you record, you know,

1520
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: you have a couple upsets in your division. You know

1521
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: you could get the nine or ten wins, but you

1522
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: you lose this. I do think with the coaching staff

1523
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: it could kind of unravel on them a little bit.

1524
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,919
Speaker 2: I don't really have a take like I would lean Arizona,

1525
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: but that is like do I trust them? I mean,

1526
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: is stay away? I just want to watch this game.

1527
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: I just I think there's a massive spot for the

1528
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 2: Bears to kind of show like do you guys have

1529
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 2: any metal to you? Do you have any fucking like

1530
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: are you guys gonna bounce back? Or is just this

1531
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,759
Speaker 2: that that one play by Jaden going to derail your season?

1532
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 2: Because I do think that is that's a possibility here.

1533
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 2: They just all of a sudden, we're like, wait, the

1534
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 2: Bears end up going seven to ten with that much talent?

1535
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 3: Ye?

1536
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're coaching staff sucks.

1537
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you mentioned the division's toughest division in the NFL, Well,

1538
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: they haven't played the divisional game. They have all six

1539
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: division games least where you mentioned the coaching All of

1540
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: those teams have elite coaching staff, so they're going to

1541
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: be a major disadvant there. They also go to Sant

1542
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: Fran and they play Seattle. So these next two weeks

1543
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: they need they're at Arizona, they're home against New England

1544
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: because after that it's your six division games.

1545
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm either giving them the I'm giving them the New

1546
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: England win, I'll just give them that at home. To me,

1547
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: this is like after losing that game.

1548
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like assuming that they beat New England. You need both.

1549
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: You need to get to what they're four and three now.

1550
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: They need to get to six and three here because

1551
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: if they're five and four after the New England game,

1552
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, assuming they win that, I don't think they

1553
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: can get there with their schedule. Yeah, this it's an

1554
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Arizona's a hard team to

1555
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: figure out. They're just like kind of like a gnat

1556
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't go away series team. Yeah, they've definitely been fortunate.

1557
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: I will say they started using Harrison well, they opt

1558
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 1: in last week. They started they changed like they altered

1559
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 1: his routes, like instead of just having him run go routes,

1560
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: they were you know, put him around the middle of

1561
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: the field and crossers and that really helped their offense

1562
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: and helped him get more invob Yeah. I just don't

1563
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: know where the I mean the Bears to think that.

1564
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: The other thing that they did, I don't know why

1565
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: teams don't do. They had Edwards their linebacker. He looked

1566
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: like he was either spying or he was guarding the

1567
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: running back in man, and he wasted the waste and

1568
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: you didn't bl blitz the hail Mary, bring pressure or

1569
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: drop eleven guys, because if you just are bringing two

1570
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 1: or three, which you see, the offensive lineman can wash

1571
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: them out and the quarterback can buy as much time

1572
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: as he possibly wants. So if you're not going to

1573
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: bring pressure and never spy, I mean they go back

1574
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 1: to that Auburn Alabama game, never spy. But if you

1575
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: don't want to bring pressure, you you're wasting all your guys.

1576
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: Then drop eleven, bring in three other wide receivers instead

1577
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: of your defensive lineman and put them all back there

1578
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: because you're just waste. You'd wasted poor guys. And then

1579
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 1: you have another guy taunting the crowd. So you basically

1580
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: were playing uh and you're supposed to have another guy.

1581
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: You're supposed to have a defender that goes back behind

1582
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: what was his receiver was, Yeah, it was supposed to

1583
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: be him. He supposed to hint guard. The best part

1584
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: is he came and tipped it after tauning, and he

1585
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: tips it right to the receiver. I mean, I've never

1586
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: seen karma work.

1587
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: My theory was by the time he looked and they're

1588
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: bee lined down the field. He then was discombobulated and

1589
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 2: he kind of freaks because he feels like he's just

1590
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: way late. He clearly didn't think the ball had been

1591
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 2: snapped yet, even though the Bears fans are all pointing

1592
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: like bro and that threw him off, which obviously led

1593
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: to him tipping it up. And he's supposed to be

1594
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: back there to either box him out or tip the

1595
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: ball down, and he's nowhere to be found. But like

1596
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: you said, they have the line in the middle. To me,

1597
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: aren't you better off if you're not gonna play a

1598
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 2: normal defense because you wouldn't because you'd have everyone cheating.

1599
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: You can still play a normal defense with four or

1600
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: five guys rushing the passer and then the six guys

1601
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 2: back up against the line and behind the line right,

1602
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: But like you said, with a mobile quarterback to rush

1603
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: a couple guys like that's shooting fish in a barrel.

1604
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 2: For Jaden was like running around, no problem. They didn't

1605
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: even get close to them. It makes no sense. Yeah,

1606
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: I mean none. We have enough evidence now, even if

1607
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: it is a very very low percentage play, it takes

1608
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: a guy to screw up, and it's still really hard.

1609
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 2: You have to get obviously very lucky. It is moronic.

1610
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: Football absolutely asked nine, this is yeah. I don't have

1611
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: a strong feel in the game. Injury report for the

1612
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: Bears is big. They've been missing Brisker and Gordon and

1613
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: their secondary day matters Sweat. You mentioned he matters, So

1614
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: you could be down three key defenders. Then their offensive

1615
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: line really banged up last week. Their whole left side

1616
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: to their offensive line, Jenkins and Jones were hurt last week. Uh,

1617
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: they're questionable. Their backup left tackle and left guard are

1618
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: hurt as well. So yeah, they could be down their

1619
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: entire left side and some depth pieces of their offensive line. Sweat,

1620
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: who is very important to that defense. And then can

1621
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: they get Bursker and Gordon back to boost that secondary

1622
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: so and just wear that mentally, that's a question I

1623
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: can't answer, Like after that game, do they rally that's afflated?

1624
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do they do they discipline Stevenson too,

1625
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, Like do they bench them

1626
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: for a half or does find them. I doubt you

1627
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: can afford to, especially if you're without Persker and Gordon,

1628
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: But there's got to be some accountability just if you're

1629
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: running a team for like he was even taunting the

1630
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 1: crowd on the play before on that out route, and

1631
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: I completely agree that you got to take that away.

1632
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: Then he was he was poking McLaurin in the eye

1633
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 2: like he was kind of out of the game. I mean,

1634
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: my take, my take was obviously ebra Flus, he's one

1635
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 2: of the I mean, he's a good player, right, you

1636
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 2: want him on the field. If you're ebra Flus, you're

1637
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 2: just so focused on trying to win these games to

1638
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: keep your to keep your gig. If you're Ryan Poles

1639
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: and clearly not going anywhere, and it's about setting the tone.

1640
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of these guys are going to

1641
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: be on the team for the next couple of years

1642
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 2: moving forward, Like you make him an act of this game,

1643
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: like you said, the tone like that will never be

1644
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 2: tolerated here, which you know, a guy trying to win

1645
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,560
Speaker 2: on a on a on a weekly basis, like he

1646
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't be If I was eber Flus, I wouldn't want

1647
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: I just say listen, we'll talk to him. He starts.

1648
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 2: But if I'm Ryan Poles, like I have to show

1649
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: sweat Swift playing his ass off, like I have to

1650
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 2: show those guys like, listen, guys, that is that is unexcepted.

1651
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 2: We were in a position to win because you guys

1652
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: never quit. And this guy's fucking around like that. That

1653
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 2: is not okay. You could argue that stuff, the Richardson stuff.

1654
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: He's so he's two, he's never played. It was embarrassing.

1655
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: But I don't even think he knows what's going on.

1656
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 2: Like this guy knows what he's doing and he's a

1657
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 2: really good player. Like if I'm Ryan Poles, he just

1658
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: doesn't play this week, and like it's a big picture thing.

1659
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 2: But I would imagine that would be an ebra Flus

1660
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: would argue till you know, he's blue in the face

1661
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: all week. They're like, no, we need this guy.

1662
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Definitely misaligned incentives between the two. So but yeah,

1663
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: it's just unacceptable.

1664
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: Uh, let's just hit on the one. I mean the

1665
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: massive college game. If you just go on the universal

1666
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: look at this season, really good teams playing other really

1667
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 2: good teams at home as a dog Oregon one, Bama one,

1668
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 2: Tennessee one. So you're getting Penn State now as of

1669
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: right now, their quarterback who knows what's gonna happen there,

1670
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: But the backup bo actually kind of looked okay, added

1671
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: a you know, a more athletic element, I would say

1672
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 2: than Drew Aller, who's not a bad athlete. But I

1673
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't really call him. All my friends from Philly and

1674
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 2: you know you're from there too, we like this guy's

1675
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 2: the next Josh Allen. You watched him like, I wouldn't

1676
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 2: go that far. You know, from a movement standpoint, he

1677
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: definitely can move around a little bit, and he did

1678
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 2: in that USC game to extend some plays, but I

1679
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't say he threatens you with his legs. Penn State

1680
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: getting the field goal. Plus you talk about offensive line

1681
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: and shambles, I mean Ohio State's offensive line is I mean,

1682
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: what are they on their third tackle right and they

1683
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: they got to.

1684
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Kick out your left guard to left tackle and everything.

1685
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: The right side is already a major question mark, and

1686
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 1: last week because of that there, they couldn't run the ball.

1687
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: Run game evaporated. Nebraska dominated them up front, and the

1688
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: same thing could happen with Penn State, although one of

1689
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 1: their better edge rushers is highly questionable for this game.

1690
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: A lot of injury and certainty for this game.

1691
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 2: But say pretty deep defensively, I mean that's I.

1692
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: Mean, they saw they saw off dudes, they should still

1693
01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: win the battle up front and and caused some problems

1694
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: for Ohio State. Who yeah, they just they just haven't

1695
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: looked a part this year when they've stepped up in class.

1696
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: There's the Penn State offense, though leaves a lot to

1697
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: be desired, and there's a question like the complosiveness in there.

1698
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 1: The receivers. Big game James, he never wins these games,

1699
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: and he's I think he's one to nine against Ohio State.

1700
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: Although Ryan Day has not fared well in top five

1701
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: games recently. I think he's like one in six since

1702
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: past seven. Yeah, it's so yeah, this game's hard for

1703
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: me to crack. Then you have the quarterback on certainty.

1704
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: The thing is is that there is such there's so

1705
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: much value to like the quarterback up, having quarterback optionality

1706
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: and leveraging it in big games like Texas A and M.

1707
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: Did Texas A and M when against LSULC, what'sn't prepared

1708
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 1: for it? Marcel read By the way, going back to

1709
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: that game he started against Florida, Florida hadn't really seen him.

1710
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 1: He looked great. But the next week's against Bowling Green

1711
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: and Arkansas, they were expecting him, didn't look as so hot.

1712
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Saw that with Penn State, Wisconsin wasn't ready for him,

1713
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: and then the offensive change, he might actually fit like

1714
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 1: what total Nikki wants to do more with his legs.

1715
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: But Aler is definitely way more talented and pen and

1716
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State will be prepared for bow So I don't know.

1717
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: And then if Aler goes, is he fully healthy. There's

1718
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty here. But Penn State also at

1719
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: the right tackle is questionable?

1720
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 2: Is in this game given that they've already they've already

1721
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 2: lost the game. And then if you were to lose

1722
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 2: that in the championship game, I guess you wouldn't even

1723
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: get there.

1724
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: Right, It's gonna be Penn State, which would.

1725
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 2: Be better, right because you would avoid that third loss

1726
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 2: if you're Ohio State.

1727
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean depending on what happens elsewhere, Like

1728
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: maybe Ohio State gets left out.

1729
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 2: You know, because the committee loves them, they.

1730
01:29:55,760 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: Do, but like that depends on what, like does Indiana, Well,

1731
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: because Ohio State would would beat Indiana, you'd think, but

1732
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: but maybe not. But I'm saying if they were to

1733
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: get the ten and two, they would beat Indiana.

1734
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 2: But you'll have.

1735
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be their they would finally get a

1736
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: ranked win because Ohio State's wins this year Nebraska by four.

1737
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,879
Speaker 1: You know, they'd beat Iowa, Michigan State, Marshall, Western Michigan,

1738
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: and Akron. Like they don't have any good wins as

1739
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: of right now.

1740
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 2: They play the Michigan game, the Michigan game won't be

1741
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: a good win.

1742
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they played Perdue, Northwestern Michigan, and then that Indiana game.

1743
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: As long as Indiana keeps winning, that'll finally be their

1744
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,799
Speaker 1: resume win. So you're right. I mean, if they beat Indiana,

1745
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 1: maybe it's better that they don't go to the Big

1746
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: Ten saddle because they What will happen is Penn State

1747
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: and Oregon will have the head to head tiebreaker over them.

1748
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: And Penn State is not losing two more times. And

1749
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say they're not, but y highly unlikely. When

1750
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: State's remaining schedules Washington at home, Purdue at Minnesota, Maryland,

1751
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're most likely out of the Big Ten

1752
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 1: title picture they lose this game. The hard game for me,

1753
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 1: the crack, But you're right, Like there's just no elite

1754
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: teams this year. The parody at the top is extreme.

1755
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 2: So, which is cool to me for the twelfe A team.

1756
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: That's why you need the twelve teen playoff with the

1757
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: NIL like it is. It marries up well with the

1758
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,560
Speaker 1: NIL changing landscape, with the transfer portal, It's going to

1759
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: kind of disperse the talent. These elite teams aren't gonna

1760
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: be as deep or as the lead as we've seen

1761
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: in the past, and Kirby Smart's talked about this as well.

1762
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: So because of that, Like it's say, if we were

1763
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: back in the BCS system right now, if the season

1764
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 1: ended today, I think the national championship would be Oregon

1765
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: Penn State. Like, would anyone be satisfied with that Oregon

1766
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: Penn State?

1767
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 3: No.

1768
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: So you need an expanded field for this because there's

1769
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a number, a handful of teams that are

1770
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: capable of winning the national title. There's also going to

1771
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: be higher upset potential because there's just not as big

1772
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: a separation between these teams in the top twenty five.

1773
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 1: So gott my ahead. Ye, I'm taking the points of.

1774
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 2: When do they go to when do they go to

1775
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 2: neutral sites? Is the final four they go to neutral

1776
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 2: sites in the first rounds their.

1777
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Home games the first rounds home games on the higher seed,

1778
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: and then.

1779
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: The top four get the top four get a bye.

1780
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 1: If you win your conference, top four get a bye,

1781
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 1: and then it's neutral sites after.

1782
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: That any other college games that you're hot on.

1783
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: Let's look, I actually played Michigan for the first time

1784
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: this season against Oregon. I look the one I played

1785
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Oregon last week against Illinois, and Oregon is twenty one

1786
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: point favorite at home against Illinois. Michigan a couple weeks

1787
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: before they lost Illinois, but they were close six point

1788
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: favorites at Illinois. That assumes they're over a touchdown better.

1789
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Home field difference is about a touchdown. So like, if

1790
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: you look at Oregon's at home against Illinois, lank twenty

1791
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: one Michigan's at home. Now, like, this is assuming that

1792
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: Illinois and Michigan are equal. This line, I don't agree.

1793
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: And the reason I played orgon last week is Illinois

1794
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: did not match up well them. Illinois cannot run the ball.

1795
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: The strength of the Oregon defenses in their secondary Oregons

1796
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: run defensive metrics like they're outside the top one hundred.

1797
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: A number of metrics. Part of that is genty. But

1798
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 1: Purdue was able to run all over them. Michigan could

1799
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: shorten this game, run the ball, limited possessions, and I

1800
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: think they can stay within the summer. The other thing,

1801
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: Oregon has no incentive to run this up, and we've

1802
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: seen it every week. Oregon gets a big lead and

1803
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: they shut it down. It's like, stay healthy. They're already

1804
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: in the playoff. I mean they're like they shouldna say

1805
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: they're already in, but basically they're already in. They've already

1806
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: be don't have to state. Their remaining schedule is Wisconsin,

1807
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: Maryland and then Washington at home. I mean they can

1808
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:54,719
Speaker 1: afford two losses.

1809
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 2: I think that that boyse he wins also aged pretty well,

1810
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 2: right boys, he probably be a playoff team, but.

1811
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: Their run defenses is suspect. The Michigan stil is a

1812
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,480
Speaker 1: really good day. The Oregon offense still lacks some explosiveness.

1813
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: So this is all out max effort for Michigan. I

1814
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 1: think they can stay in this number or get it

1815
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: like a backdoor late because Oregon really does. They just

1816
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: don't care in the second half. The scariest one, how

1817
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 1: about a team that hasn't covered all year versus a

1818
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: team that is covered every week. Air Force catching over

1819
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: three touchdowns against Army.

1820
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 2: I have to take this.

1821
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look historically, Service Academy is catching

1822
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 1: over three touchdowns, are like seventy percent against the spread.

1823
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 1: Just silly. And they they know each other very well.

1824
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 1: They know how to defend the triple option. There's limited possessions.

1825
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: The games go so fast, it's so hard to cover

1826
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: as a big favorite, but they practice against a triple

1827
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: option every single week. Last year, in this exact spot,

1828
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: the roles were reversed. Air Force was undefeated and ranked.

1829
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: They were seven to zero and they were playing an

1830
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: Army team that was two and five that just lost

1831
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 1: a UMass at home. The game was in air Force.

1832
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: Air Force was a twenty point favorite and got their

1833
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: doors blown off. I think they lost by twenty five.

1834
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: Now you have an air Force team that's really bad.

1835
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: They've only won one game, taking on an air Force

1836
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: team that's undefeated, ranked, and the roles are completely reversed.

1837
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: Air Forced had this game circled. They've also their quarterback

1838
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: plays been so bad. But they have these two more

1839
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 1: mobile kids that are sophomores that they went to for

1840
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: one game and the offense looked much better. They got hurt,

1841
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,560
Speaker 1: but they should be back this week, and that's what

1842
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna go with, and it just adds juice to

1843
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: their their triple option attack. So yeah, I just I

1844
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:02,879
Speaker 1: Service Academy laying over twenty one against another service academy

1845
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: is crazy. This line is forty two points different than

1846
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: what it was last year, same time, which is insane

1847
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: to think about. But I have to take it. I

1848
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 1: think there's all a Service Academy has only been favored

1849
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: by over twenty one against another service academy one time

1850
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: in the past twenty years of his I think in

1851
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: like twenty that really good Navy team like ten years

1852
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: ago and they beat Army by like three or four.

1853
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: I have to take a Service Academy catching up with

1854
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: three touchdowns against another one.

1855
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I like, it's uh, it's Hammer Air Force and

1856
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 2: go go America.

1857
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

1858
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 2: Thanks Dougy, you're the man.

1859
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: Hi bro, have a good week weekend. I'll see you

1860
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: next week.

1861
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 2: The volume