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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calia Health. Welcome into

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker here along with our good

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Speaker 1: friend Chris Nrpasso. We're here with you until three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see everybody. We've got Ross Tucker coming

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Speaker 1: on the show today. We've got a Twitter question. We're

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Speaker 1: asking you about the future of the Buffalo Bills and

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Speaker 1: some of the players that we've grown to love and

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Speaker 1: respect and what you think their future holds. Who do

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Speaker 1: you think is gonna have a breakout year? Lots going

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Speaker 1: on a mini camps still going or OTAs are still

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Speaker 1: going on Phase three. So a lot going on here

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Speaker 1: at the stadium. Still building on the new stadium. That's

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Speaker 1: things going up fast there there for the time. For

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Speaker 1: a minute, they're ahead of schedule, but that could change,

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Speaker 1: like in five minutes.

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Speaker 2: And today is the year anniversary of the Bills breaking

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Speaker 2: ground on the new stadium. We talked about it on Monday.

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Speaker 2: How much progress have they made in one year? You

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Speaker 2: can almost see the horseshoe. You've you've been down in

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Speaker 2: the what will be the field. Yeah, the lower bowl

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Speaker 2: is like pretty much done in terms of the bone.

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Speaker 1: So it's taking shape.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this quickly.

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Speaker 1: It's a year. This is one year anniversary of breaking

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Speaker 1: ground on the new stadium. And as we're seeing here

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Speaker 1: the people on MSG, they've got a little time lapse

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Speaker 1: they're showing, you know, digging the hole and the cranes

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Speaker 1: move in and that. It's it's pretty cool to see

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Speaker 1: all the work they've done, uh, and to see it

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Speaker 1: happen really fast. I know it was a couple of

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Speaker 1: months between trips across Abbot for me, and I drove

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Speaker 1: by it the other day. I was shocked at how

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Speaker 1: much steel is up and how tall it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: There's they got like three more levels the thing is

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Speaker 1: gonna be and for those of you who know the

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Speaker 1: area around the stadium, it's gonna be the canopy is

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Speaker 1: gonna be ten feet or twelve feet higher than the

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Speaker 1: light stanchions on High Mark.

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Speaker 3: That's what I've noticed.

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Speaker 1: The walls are gonna be that high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've mentioned it to me, and I think you

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Speaker 2: did a perfect or you said the perfect analogy last

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Speaker 2: week that the current stadium is kind of built like

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Speaker 2: a sala bowl and this is gonna be built like

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Speaker 2: a shot glass.

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Speaker 3: We don't obviously have the full structure up.

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Speaker 2: But just how high those beams are up right across

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Speaker 2: the streets, you can almost tell it is considerably more

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Speaker 2: substantial than this current bill Staium.

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Speaker 1: It's happening. And I you know, I know too that

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Speaker 1: the uh, the high end seats, you know, the ones

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Speaker 1: that you and I can't afford and never will. They

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Speaker 1: they sold them out. Oh nice, they sold the very

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Speaker 1: highest end out. They're like only like four hundred of them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I guess there's a gone. So now they're moving

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Speaker 1: and they're starting to sell those two. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: By the way, on a personal note, today June fifth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty twenty four, June fifth, my mom and

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: So their seventieth anniversary today, Mom and dad, Gordon and Joyant.

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Speaker 2: What percentage of marriages get to seventy years, It's pretty low,

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Speaker 2: So that's quite the pretty low.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And they are. They are in a little retirement

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Speaker 1: facility Winfield, Kansas. Got a little thing this weekend. We're

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Speaker 1: And then you know they're that's amazing. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think about it. You can't really have this big

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Speaker 1: drink right. I mean they're like you gotta like check

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Speaker 3: Years of marriage.

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Speaker 1: They're doing great. I'll tell you the story. Here's my mom. Okay,

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Speaker 1: one quick. I know I won't bore you with family

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Speaker 1: stories about my family problem. Here's one story about my mom.

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Speaker 1: So my dad, they're both living in a little retirement

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Speaker 1: So we're all five of my children and all my

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Speaker 1: I go a hey, what's up? How's it going? He goes, well, good?

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Speaker 1: Joe and Grandpa Gordon. He goes, yeah, he goes, but

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Speaker 1: Grandma at the time was ninety one. Grandma Joe was

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Speaker 1: playing soccer with Red and Gordy and she went down

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Speaker 1: in a heap. She was playing soccer with her great grandchildren,

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Speaker 1: I spend almost all night in the emergency room with her,

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Speaker 1: and she's you know.

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Speaker 3: Did she find out four months later she's ninety one.

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Speaker 1: They replaced her shoulder. Wow, and now she's and she's

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Speaker 1: good as good. Four months later, she's good as gold.

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Speaker 2: So I got to ask you, did you get your

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Speaker 2: NFL caliber athleticism from your mom or dad?

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Speaker 1: Do you think leticism? Probably from my pop? From dad,

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Speaker 1: the toughness, and I didn't know that was your mother.

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Speaker 1: Toughness from my mom probably, And also my ability to

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Speaker 1: talk smack is directly from my mom. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: My dad's a quiet dude. He was a minister for

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Speaker 1: forty five years, right, so he's full of grace and

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Speaker 1: mercy and quiet and you can't help but love him.

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Speaker 1: My mom, on the other hand.

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Speaker 1: He's got a little sparky to her. And I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that all through my you know, because I was

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Speaker 1: gonna tell your mom, Yeah, she was in the stands.

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Speaker 1: out of a you know, state him at eighty thousand people.

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Speaker 1: But so when they retire, listen to thirty years ago

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Speaker 1: up golf, they're living on a little golf course there

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Speaker 1: sixty five. I've never even seen my mom. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen my mom run a step in my I'm sixty

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Speaker 1: never have I seen my mom even run a step,

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Speaker 1: let alone play soccer with the grandkids. But anyway, she

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Speaker 1: takes up golf. I didn't. She turns out to be

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Speaker 3: That doesn't. Those are two things.

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Speaker 1: Usually she's she's talking smack to her her three sons,

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Speaker 1: four sons me included. I'm like, Mom, She's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't get buy right from now She's chirping.

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Speaker 5: Wow, okay, that makes so so she I So, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's not like I instructed my grandsons to go take

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Speaker 5: their great grandmother out, but they tackled her hard.

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Speaker 1: She went down and they you know.

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Speaker 2: Ninety one years old playing soccer at a retirement home.

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Speaker 2: That's I think a goal for everybody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So today, congratulations to Gordon Joean Task, her mom and

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Speaker 4: Proud of you, and.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna see him here

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Speaker 1: in the next few days. Fantastic. Yeah, awesome, Yeah, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So today we also are now that I've got all

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Speaker 1: did the matter. There's thirty two guys out of the

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Speaker 1: ninety on the roster. Thirty two they're on one year deals,

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Speaker 1: this year, they're gonna be free agents. Uh. But for

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Speaker 1: and those the list is pretty intriguing. It starts at

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Speaker 1: draft class, Cam Lewis, Terrell, Bernard Khalil Shakir, Christian Benford,

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Speaker 1: five guys start with Spencer Brown and Rasul Douglas, Mike Edwards.

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Speaker 3: Those are the big ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mvs mccollins, Reggie Gilliam, all those guys. So the

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Speaker 1: question kind of it begs the question, which of those

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Speaker 1: an extension? It certainly Spencer Brown starting right tackle, you

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Speaker 4: And for it.

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Speaker 2: And in the past we've seen with Tredevius White, with

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Speaker 2: Matt Milano, uh Jordan Poyer, even Stefan Diggs, Dion Dawkins.

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Speaker 2: The Bills in general like to get out in front

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Speaker 2: of these deals instead of getting into a Jalen Waddle

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Speaker 1: I know, Matt yeah, or somebody that's not as good

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Speaker 1: getting a better contract.

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Speaker 2: Yes that Matt Milano did test the waters, Jordan Poyer,

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Speaker 2: but most of them, the core guys, Dawkins, Tredevius White,

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Speaker 2: for two or three seasons, you're in the midway portion

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Speaker 2: of your fourth year. Signed the contract to get out

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Speaker 2: front instead of letting them get to March where then

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Speaker 2: other teams can bid.

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Speaker 1: So you can, you know, you can go down the list,

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Speaker 1: and certainly guys like you know you talk about starters,

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Speaker 1: and that's really where it starts. You know, Spencer Brown

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Speaker 1: and the right tackle. Now he's been he's he's getting

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Speaker 1: worked on in the off season consistently every off season

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Speaker 1: you think you know finger quotes minor, it's mine. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something. There's a football player. It's minor

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Speaker 1: because it's on somebody else and it's never had. It's

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Speaker 1: never minor. It stinks because it kills your off season.

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Speaker 3: It was so good man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's going to be interesting. Who do you

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Speaker 3: And the year he knows yes.

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Speaker 2: To your point, we're breaking this up into kind of

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Speaker 1: Financially, there's only thirty seven guys that are signed past

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Speaker 3: Which we've talked about it, it really is. This season.

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Speaker 2: It's so many new pieces, new coaching staff, new parts

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Speaker 3: You throw in the the MVS and the Chase clay twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So which Bills player will prove they deserve a

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Speaker 1: Some of it has got to be. Oh yeah, for

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Speaker 1: But those are guys you're talking about that may find

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Speaker 3: Sure do you want to give our picks this segment?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Or we can wait?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 2: So I'll be quickly with the or I'll be quick

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Speaker 2: with these homegrown I'm gonna go Christian benf I raved

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott is going to mention how good of a

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Speaker 3: Goes from twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four tackles up to fifty four in year two, three interceptions,

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Speaker 2: allowed two touchdowns in his coverage area. In that final

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Speaker 2: on a throw to Mike Evans that bounced off Christian

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Speaker 2: lot of different things in this defense, just kind of

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Speaker 2: has that gritty mentality.

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Speaker 3: He's coachable. He is kind of the the consummate.

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott Arabill's player that we talked about Jordan Poyer

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Speaker 2: who started you mentioned it started week one over a

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Speaker 2: first round pick from Florida who had his dad was

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Speaker 2: I think Christian Benford and I'll go with Chase Claypool

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Speaker 2: Steve that in terms of athletically and size wise, he

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's a little bit sneaker around two thirty, sub

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Speaker 2: four five forty our dash, forty inch vertical. Everything athletically

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Speaker 2: is there, and I think he was a player that

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Speaker 2: so Christian Benford and Chase Claypool are my two picks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take I could go Christian Benford as well,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with Terrell Bernard. He is a

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if Sean McDermot would

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Speaker 3: This guy like Christian Dane Jackson was one too.

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Speaker 1: There has been guys across the realm of So we're

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Speaker 1: Not that he's a great, not that hey're not. But

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely So when they go out and they talk to

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Speaker 3: That's encouraging.

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Speaker 1: That's something that you can show to representation the guys

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Speaker 1: that's why they got Mitch Trubisky the first time around.

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Speaker 1: But that's how you got him here in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Christian Benford is all about that. Terrell Bernard is a

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, who is like a number what seventeen overall

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Speaker 3: Got paid eighteen million dollars in free agency a year.

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Speaker 1: And Benford comes in, who could not look less like

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds, right, I mean he looks like his brother

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Speaker 3: He's not underside.

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Speaker 1: He's big enough to play inside, and that's that's a

434
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Speaker 1: big deal. So I would say Terrell Bernard. And for

435
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Speaker 1: the for the newcomers, the guys that are on.

436
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Speaker 2: One year deals that they've brought in one year deals,

437
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Speaker 2: You've got mccollins, Mike Edwards.

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Speaker 3: I would Collins, I almost.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think some of these guys, I

440
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Speaker 1: don't think they're going anywhere, you know, I don't think

441
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Speaker 1: Collins is going anywhere. I don't think he'll get out

442
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Speaker 1: of the building. All of that. I think it's gonna

443
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Speaker 1: come down to I think the guy who's going to

444
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Speaker 1: get the extension first is probably got to be Spencer Brown.

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Speaker 3: He has been in such an important position.

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Speaker 1: Since early on in his career, has been a starter,

447
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Speaker 1: and he hasn't left and he and he got much better. Uh,

448
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: the more he played, the better he got. And also

449
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: I think they appreciate how we don't find out about

450
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: his ailments until after the season's over. No complete he's

451
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Speaker 1: getting He's getting a knee surgery, had back surgery, now

452
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Speaker 1: ha shoulder surgery. I would anticipate he's gonna have let

453
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Speaker 1: me just in my crystal ball, he'll probably have surgeryund

454
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Speaker 1: like an elbow this offseason whatever this next offseason he has.

455
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Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of grit and a little

456
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Speaker 1: bit of fire, a little personality for the offensive line.

457
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Speaker 1: And I said, BRID talked to Brownie about this all

458
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Speaker 1: the time. You need like maybe a handful five or

459
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Speaker 1: less of guys that if there's a fight on the field,

460
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Speaker 1: they want to be in the middle of it. If

461
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Speaker 1: they're not in the middle of it, they're trying to

462
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Speaker 1: get there. You need some guys like that, enforcers. You

463
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Speaker 1: need some guys who give you a physical intimidation, fiery,

464
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Speaker 1: I want to fight you more than I want to

465
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Speaker 1: play against you kind of guys. It helped. It raises

466
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Speaker 1: the level of emotional content for your team always. You

467
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Speaker 1: need guys like that. That's that's why I used to say,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, Brian Cox, the infamous Bill's fans hated the

469
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Speaker 1: guy because he was he was a fight. He was

470
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Speaker 1: walking around waiting for a fight, looking for it all

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Speaker 1: the time. And Bill's they hated him, but he was

472
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Speaker 1: the one guy we wanted on our team. We would

473
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Speaker 1: have had him on our team. We loved the guy.

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Speaker 1: That's why Darryl Talley was such an important part of

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Speaker 1: our team. Not only would he fight their guys, he'd

476
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Speaker 1: fight our guys if they weren't doing it right. So

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Speaker 1: I think Spencer Brown brings a little bit of that

478
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Speaker 1: to the equation, and I think that's why you like

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Speaker 1: having him out there. You know, Dion, I mean we

480
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Speaker 1: all know Dion. Dion'll hug the guy before he fights him, right,

481
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Speaker 1: I mean he's a Connor McGovern. I don't know. I

482
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Speaker 1: don't think I could recognize his voice. He never says anything, right,

483
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Speaker 1: Mitch Morris not no longer here. Same thing with Osirius

484
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Speaker 1: Torrens pretty quiet. I don't know what his voice sounds like.

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Speaker 1: I have never heard him speak, Right, Spencer, you gotta

486
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Speaker 1: have somebody up there who is going to take up

487
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Speaker 1: the conversation with the d lineman.

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Speaker 3: A pretty physical position.

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Speaker 1: It kind of makes that's right to have it, and

490
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Speaker 1: so I think that's a guy that you need a

491
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Speaker 1: guy like him on the roster. And I think at

492
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Speaker 1: this point of his career, he's proven that he's going

493
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Speaker 1: to play through it. He's at warrior, he's got that,

494
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Speaker 1: and I think he'll probably be the next guy that

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Speaker 1: season extension.

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Speaker 2: And you spoke so well about how Christian Benford is

497
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Speaker 2: kind of the poster child for what this Sean mcder

498
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott era has kind of meant to me. Spencer

499
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Speaker 2: Brown is kind of another prime example of another kind

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Speaker 2: of element of how they've built this roster. We've talked

501
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Speaker 2: about it at length over the last four or five

502
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Speaker 2: years at the Bills, especially early in the draft first

503
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Speaker 2: couple of rounds. Love these big physical freaks, even if

504
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Speaker 2: they aren't finished products and they're not totally refined coming

505
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Speaker 2: into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was certainly.

507
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Speaker 2: Spencer Brown didn't play college football his final season at

508
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Speaker 2: Northern Iowa.

509
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Speaker 3: Was playing at Northern Iowa.

510
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Speaker 2: He because of COVID becau COVID, So they knew, hey,

511
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: this is a mouldible ball of clay.

512
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Speaker 3: He might not be great instantly.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, and the last

514
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Speaker 2: couple of years we've seen that growth. He's a supreme athlete.

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Speaker 2: He kind of looks like a big tight end out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks athletic.

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Speaker 2: To your point about toughness, I think that's important that

518
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Speaker 2: not only on the field, but battling through these offseason injuries.

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Speaker 3: He's not complained about it.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't blamed you know, a bad game or a

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Speaker 2: bad series here or there, and after that home or

522
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: the season opener last year on Monday Night Football against

523
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Speaker 2: the Jets, which was a disaster for the entire offense,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Brown was fantastic last season. And it's not just

525
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Speaker 2: the NFL where you need a good left tackle and

526
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Speaker 2: your right tackle doesn't matter. You need a really good

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Speaker 2: right tackle. And Spencer Brown, I think is one of

528
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Speaker 2: the best young right tackles in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So had makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I had an offensive lineman that I love and respect

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Speaker 1: who was on the teams that I played for, who

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Speaker 1: is a really sharp guy, and he said, yeah, your

533
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Speaker 1: left tackle needs to be a physical set apart with talent,

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Speaker 1: and he's got to be a huge, genetically different athlete.

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Speaker 1: Your right tackle just needs a mean.

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Speaker 3: Street and Spencer Brown has that you just.

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Speaker 1: Spencer has it and that that was simp. That's as

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Speaker 1: simple as he could make it. Obviously you need a

539
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: lot of stuff other than that, but he said, that's that.

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Speaker 1: Those are the traits that are different about the two tackles.

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Speaker 1: Your left tackle is a physical specimens, physical, physical freak.

542
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: The right tackle is just a big, mean dude.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Spencer Brown is protecting Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: So I think that will that factors in at the contract.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I think you're right. I think

546
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Speaker 1: there's a lot in this and there's a lot of

547
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: guys on this roster when you start going down and

548
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Speaker 1: you know, the twenty twenty season, we go back to

549
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: where a lot of these guys, you know, kind of

550
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: sat out. Greg Russau and all these guys, you know,

551
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: they took a year off getting ready for the draft

552
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Speaker 1: and just said listen, I got you got my tape,

553
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Speaker 1: here I go. There were others as well. It has

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Speaker 1: take it took them an.

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Speaker 3: Extra year, which makes sense.

556
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Speaker 1: Before they had that thing. We always talk about the

557
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: magical third season when they kind of get it all

558
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: together that I can't tell you. I can't tell you

559
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: how awkward strange out of I mean just from outer space.

560
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: The entire twenty twenty season was for these guys. They

561
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Speaker 1: were meeting. They had meetings in the field house set

562
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: up where the wide receiver room. They were all sitting

563
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Speaker 1: six feet apart at tables with with laptop looking at

564
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Speaker 1: the laptop. They were on zoom calls. They were so

565
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: spread out crazy that they you know, they were meeting

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Speaker 1: by zoom in the building together.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It was you know, they they practiced weird. They remember

569
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Speaker 1: that Jake fromm who didn't even wasn't even around. He

570
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: was like in another room in.

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Speaker 2: An a quarantine even though he didn't have COVID, just

572
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Speaker 2: to make sure he was.

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Speaker 1: The guy, the emergency guy that was going to take

574
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Speaker 1: snaps if the quarterback room got hit with COVID. That

575
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: season was a season that was really in a ton

576
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: of ways. There should be a thirty for thirty on it.

577
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: There really shouldn't be. You could make a huge documentary

578
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: about how they pulled that off. They had an entire

579
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Speaker 1: pro football season with no fans in the stands, and

580
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: they pulled it off. And they moving games, moving, you know, rescheduling,

581
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: flipping games all the kind they played on every day

582
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Speaker 1: of the week except Wednesday. That year they played on

583
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Speaker 1: Monday two because the Bills played on Tuesday Tuesday. They

584
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: played on a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, all

585
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: of those days. So to think these guys like Spencer

586
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: Brown and Rousseau and all these guys who came into

587
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: the league right after and write that year to see

588
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Speaker 1: that happen, and there's no doubt there were long term

589
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: effects to their career and how they development, yes, and

590
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: how they developed, and that's and I think, you know,

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00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: you're seeing some of that now with the guys like

592
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: in that that it's even hard to remember who they

593
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: are now. Then other we'd in twenty twenty four, it's Rousseau's,

594
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: it's it's the Spencer Brown's, it's all those guys.

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00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, those two in the twenty twenty one draft class,

596
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: Greg Russo who's in who's entering his fifth year option season,

597
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: Spencer Brown third rounder. They picked two players in the

598
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: top three rounds that year of the Bills who did

599
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: not play in twenty twenty in college. So Greg Russeau

600
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: was coming in at twenty one, Spencer Brown was a

601
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: little older, but it's not shocking that it took a

602
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: little bit of time for Rousseau and Spencer Brown, two

603
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: almost equally as tall, physical freaks, to really acclimate to

604
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: the NFL, just because of they didn't play football entering

605
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: that final season, they weren't able to develop at the

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Speaker 2: FCS level.

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Speaker 3: And for Greg Russou in the ACC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm I think it's going to be really

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Speaker 1: important and interesting to see these guys and how how

610
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Speaker 1: they how they progress and who gets these you know,

611
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: these these extensions they're going to get them. You know

612
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: we've got because there's a lot of guys. We've talked

613
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: about it, and we always get some calls from people

614
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: who who they look at a Kyrie Elam and how

615
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 1: he has not been on the field enough and all that,

616
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Speaker 1: and I'll say this, I'll you're high on him, right,

617
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Speaker 1: I'm very high on him. I think enough has changed

618
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff and all this stuff that that

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Speaker 1: people are going to get a chance. He's going to

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Speaker 1: get a chance to get on the field. And I

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Speaker 1: think so guys like Kyrie Elam, they'll pick out other

622
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Speaker 1: guys that that didn't pan out or weren't good enough,

623
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Speaker 1: and they crush Brandon beanf for not being a good GYMP. Listen,

624
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Speaker 1: that twenty twenty two draft was.

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Speaker 3: Spectacular something else.

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Speaker 1: It was really something else. They got it. You go

627
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Speaker 1: back in time and look at other teams who have

628
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, like the the Seattle Seahawks when

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Speaker 1: they had a legion of doom. They've got two drafts

630
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Speaker 1: in a row where they got four starters out of

631
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Speaker 1: each draft, four starters out of each draft, and they

632
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: that propelled them to two straight Super Bowls because they

633
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: got so much production out of those draft picks. Interesting,

634
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Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be fun to see who

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Speaker 1: these are. We're asking you today what Buffalo Bill's player

636
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: will prove they deserve a new contract in twenty twenty four.

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00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: You can call us at eight or three zero, five

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00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: to fifty or one eighty eight five point fifty two,

639
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: five point fifty Steve Tasker, Christ Passer. We're he'll to

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00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: hear until three o'clock and about two thirty Ross Tucker

641
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: is gonna come on and join us on the show

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Speaker 1: as well. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, and you are

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Speaker 1: listening to One Bill's Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives.

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Speaker 1: Steve task and Chris ter Passo here with you until

645
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Speaker 1: three o'clock. Ross Tucker's coming on later on in the show.

646
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Speaker 1: We're asking you the Twitter poll of the day, which

647
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Bills player is gonna prove they deserve new contract with

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Speaker 1: their twenty twenty four play. Lots of options, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the elephant in the room is like it might be.

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Speaker 3: Josh Yeah, you know, with the guys like quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Most like the tenth highest paid quarterback in the league

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Speaker 1: or something. Now, it's just it's stupid how fast that

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Speaker 1: stuff changes. But I mean, I'm gonna jump over on

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Speaker 1: this on the website and see and get the exact

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Speaker 1: the exact number of it.

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Speaker 3: It's tenth now, is it is? Number ten?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was just a what's his number? What's his cap number?

659
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Speaker 1: And how do they rank?

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00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 2: His average per year is only forty three million per year.

661
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: You got guys like Kirk Cousins, Deshaun Watson, Kyler, Murray,

662
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson obviously, Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Jared Goff,

663
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Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow all ahead of Josh Allen in average

664
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Speaker 2: per year, which is not the only metric to look at,

665
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Speaker 2: but that's the easiest.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this, you can make you can make

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Speaker 1: arguments easily for Joe Burrow and Lamar certainly they're those

668
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: guys have gotten what they deserve. You know, the Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson contract is an outlier because he got an owner

670
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland that just wanted to make a statement right away.

671
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: He got he got into a you know, a spitting

672
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Speaker 1: contest and wanted to win. That's it basically, and so

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Speaker 1: he did. He gave up that contract to to Deshaun.

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Speaker 1: So but then you've got you know, average percentage of

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Speaker 1: the cap. Joe Burrow leads it, but Josh Allen is

676
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: next a twenty three point five percent of the contract

677
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Speaker 1: of the of the cap. But that's the only place

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Speaker 1: Josh really he's number five in contract value a two

679
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight million, and of course Pat Pat

680
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes is four hundred and fifty million, Burrows two seventy five,

681
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Herbert and Lamar, so all and all those guys besides

682
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: Patrick signed their deal after Josh did.

683
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: Yes, after Josh, which is what we said earlier that

684
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: the Bills like to get out in front of these

685
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: monster contract extensions, which yeah, a lot of.

686
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: Sense and it does make a lot of sense. Josh

687
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: is signed through twenty twenty nine, so he's got another

688
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: five years on that deal. But they can, you know,

689
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: they just if they need cap space, they can give

690
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: it a job. They can take it from Josh. And

691
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: what that means is if he's gonna make whatever, twenty

692
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: eight million this year, thirty eight million this year, or

693
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: let's just make it easy. If it's gonna make thirty

694
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: million this year on his contract and his cap hit

695
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: is I don't know, thirty five million. Because of the

696
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: length of it, they can just say, listen, we're gonna

697
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: give you your twenty eight million as a bonus, yes, and

698
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: extend you. So you're gonna we're gonna give you the

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Speaker 1: money up front.

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Speaker 2: An your type of Yeah, any type of signing bonus

701
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Speaker 2: gets pro rated out throughout the rest of.

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Speaker 1: It, because, you know, the big fear is you're gonna

703
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: you sign these guys a big contract and they're gonna,

704
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, then all of a sudden they they stink. Well,

705
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, you don't don't worry about that with Josh. No,

706
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna cut him. You're not gonna regret

707
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: giving him the money. Yeah, Sure, so give it to him.

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Speaker 1: Now take that and get some slack on the on

709
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Speaker 1: the salary.

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00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: Cap, and that'slar CAP's gonna continue to rise with streaming services,

711
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: with eighteen game schedules. So it's almost like I'm not

712
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: gonna say that, I know that Josh Allen will just

713
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: kind of take like a hometown discount. I think he

714
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: understands how valuable he is and and maybe we could

715
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: get to a point in the next six months to

716
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Speaker 2: a year and a half where he wants a new deal.

717
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: But I get the sense with him that he has,

718
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: of course bought into this area so much, the front office,

719
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, where he's never gonna be playing hardball

720
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: with this team, you know, holding out not being here.

721
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: He's like we mentioned with Justin Jefferson. He gets the

722
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: big deal last week, but I saw an interesting tweet

723
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Speaker 2: that he never missed an OTA practice or a mini

724
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: camp practice, didn't hold out. That's kind of how I

725
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: feel about Josh Allen. It's exactly how I feel about

726
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. So, yeah, he could eventually get a new

727
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: deal in the future, but this is not going to

728
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: be a situation that's ever going to be, you know,

729
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: concerning for the Bills or the fans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to be contentious anyway. Did you

731
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Speaker 1: see an article came out friend of the show, Eric.

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Speaker 3: Eric Edholm, Yes, NFL dot come right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he and he ranked this there's twelve teams

734
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Speaker 1: in the NFL who've never won a Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: obviously the Bills are one of them, and he ranked

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Speaker 1: them how likely it is that this may be their year?

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Speaker 1: And number one ranked was is the Detroit Lions. For me,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the flavor of the month because of

739
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: the theory right there, because Dan Campbell's that they went

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00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: a step further than the Bills have been able to

741
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Speaker 1: go the last couple of years. That's that's an easy one.

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Speaker 1: The number two ranked team is the Cincinnati Bengals because

743
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Speaker 1: if Joe Burrow stays healthy, they seem to be a

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00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: completely different team. And they kind of hung in there

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: last year. They had a winning record, they got fourth

746
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: place in a division where every team had a winning record,

747
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: and they got a fourth place schedule from that. So

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Speaker 1: that's a good guess to me. Those guys seem higher

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Speaker 1: on the AH. That's I don't know if I can

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Speaker 1: say that I would that I would place the Bengals

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Speaker 1: more likely than the Lions.

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00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't either, because the a FC is more loaded

753
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Speaker 3: than the.

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Speaker 1: End it is. But they got a better quarterback Cincinnati does.

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00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: And but the Lions are in the NFC North, not

756
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: the AFC North. The NFC North is a is not good.

757
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: It's not nearly as good as it's not good.

758
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: Green Bay still stands there, they're still good. But Minnesota

759
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: with the rookie quarterback quarterback, Chicago the rookie quarterback and.

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00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 3: Have an easier path to get to the Super.

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Speaker 1: And Detroit is sitting there, so they you know, it's

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Speaker 1: Detroit and green Bay. Last year, both those teams were

763
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: exceeded expectations, shall we say so? I can see that.

764
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Speaker 1: But but Cincinnati with a fourth place schedule, even though

765
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Speaker 1: they're in a rougher conference and the roughest division in football,

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty good guess. But except for.

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Speaker 3: That, where does Erik Kevin Bills next?

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Speaker 1: Their Bills are the third most likely and people and

769
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Speaker 1: they obviously they say, you know, their playoff contenders more

770
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: so than Super Bowl contenders because of the departures. But

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00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: it's the conference remains loaded, no question about it. And

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Speaker 1: the Bills have a rough schedule, so it seems to

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Speaker 1: them less likely than Cincinnati or Detroit, but still third

774
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Speaker 1: out of twelve teams who've never won it. Fourth is

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Speaker 1: that is the Houston Texans. They're an up and coming

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Speaker 1: They seem to strike me. To me, I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: where a lot of people are.

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Speaker 3: I think on the Texans.

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00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: Yes, I think the Texas nice season, but they have

780
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: not earned my trust.

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00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that I talked about last week was

782
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: that CJ. Straus's interceptions are going to go up because

783
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: his turnover worthy play rate was right around Josh Allens

784
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen through eighteen interceptions last year. A lot

785
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 2: of tip passes, a lot of drops, you know, off

786
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: of receivers hands.

787
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Speaker 3: CJ.

788
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: Stroud was putting the football in harm's way at almost

789
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: the exact same rate. It was three percent for Josh Allen,

790
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: two point eight for c J. Stroud, and CJ. Strod

791
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: had like five or six interceptions, right, So that's probably

792
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: going to regress to the mean a little bit and suddenly,

793
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: you know, touchdown ending drives are going to turn into interceptions.

794
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: So I think, I mean we all agree that that

795
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: they roster Wise have one of the better rosters in

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Speaker 2: the AFC, but with a young quarterback. I don't totally

797
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: disagree with you that they do kind of have to

798
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: show themselves for more than one season.

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Speaker 1: And you also have at number five, Yeah, the Cleveland

800
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Speaker 1: Browns as being one of the twelve teams, the fifth

801
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: most likely to get their first Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I like the Browns a lot in the AFC North,

803
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: Like if you're betting, or if you're like, hey, what's

804
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: a surprise team? We see so many years or so

805
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: many teams every year go from third or fourth place

806
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: up to first place in their division. The Browns in that,

807
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: Like you're mentioning how competitive the AFC North is. All

808
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: those games seem like they're close. You know last year

809
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: the Browns when Deshaun Watson got hurt late in that game,

810
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: they won in Baltimore, which felt like no one could

811
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Speaker 2: win in Baltimore. Last season, the roster is good, they

812
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Speaker 2: bring over Jerry Judy is it's just gonna be Can

813
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson play to an average level, played somewhere close

814
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Speaker 2: to where he was in Houston? Right, because when he

815
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: had been healthy in Cleveland, it was really Miles Garrett

816
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Speaker 2: the defense, the run game, Nick Chubb, the offensive line.

817
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Speaker 3: That was really booying that team.

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Speaker 2: So if Deshaun Watson can play anywhere close to what

819
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: he showed early in his career, they're going to be

820
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Speaker 2: tough in the ac.

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Speaker 1: His offensive coordinator is going to be Ken Dorsey. So

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Speaker 1: it'll be an interesting watch for Bills fans. Ever, the

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Speaker 1: sixth ranked team, and now here's the thing. Now you're

824
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Speaker 1: starting to get like, I don't know, Atlanta Falcons at

825
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Speaker 1: number six. Then he got the Chargers at number seven

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Speaker 1: and Jacksonville at number eight, the sixth, seventh, and eighth

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Speaker 1: likeliest teams to win their first Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a big gap there between like the top.

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Speaker 1: It does it does seem like that you get outside

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Speaker 1: of you get outside of the Bills and the Bengals

831
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Speaker 1: and the Lions, you're taking a lead. Yeah, it is

832
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Speaker 1: to me, it is. It is fit to.

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Speaker 3: Rank all twelve though, So that's why he did it,

834
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Speaker 3: because there's twelve teams.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, right right, and you know, certainly Houston it's

836
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, they they should feel good about where they're at,

837
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Speaker 1: the Chargers, then Jaguars, and then then it's Minnesota. Is

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Speaker 1: the ninth Arizona is the tenth, eleventh is Tennessee, and

839
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: the last one, of course, is obvious. It's the Panthers

840
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: who are struggling in every facet of the game.

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Speaker 2: Sure quarterback, I'm not huge on Bryce Young's development and

842
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: what he showed as a rookie.

843
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: They've you know, they're GM.

844
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: Dan Morgan was of course here under Brandon Bean as

845
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: the assistant GM. He's done a pretty good job spending

846
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: money in free agency. They added a couple pieces up

847
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: front along the offensive line, things like that, but the

848
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: rest of the roster of the defense, the receiver group,

849
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: still leaves a lot to be desired.

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Speaker 1: You can tweet at us at at One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: to get in on the Twitter poll which Buffalo Bill's

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00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: player will prove they deserve a new contract in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. You can chime in on the phones, or

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Speaker 1: you can tweet at us. The Steve Tasker and Christophoss

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Speaker 1: are going to take a break before the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour. You're listening to One Bill's Live on Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. So we were checking the tweet sheet because

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Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of responses to this question which

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Speaker 1: Bills player will prove they deserve a new contract with

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Speaker 1: their play in twenty twenty four, and Guy Connor puts in,

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Speaker 1: he says, Bernard and Shakiir to me, they're going to

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Speaker 1: prove to they deserve a new contract. The Bernard Milano tandem,

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Speaker 1: I think will prove to be one of the best

864
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Speaker 1: linebacker duels in the NFL this year. I think Shakir

865
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: will see an increased role in the offense and become

866
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: a reliable number two receiver. Could be the new Beasley. Yeah,

867
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: I could see that. One of the reasons I we

868
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: bring this up is because Shakir is going to be

869
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: the centerpiece of a Beyond Blue and Red segment that's

870
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: going to be on the Bills website and on the

871
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: app starting tomorrow night at seven pm. So, if you

872
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: want to get a look into what Khalil Shakir has

873
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: been doing in the off season, He's been working with

874
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: my old teammate Eric Molds to get better and that

875
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: Molds has kind of turned into his guru, which is

876
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good guru to have, by the way, And

877
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: so if you want to get some insights to what

878
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: he's been doing in the off season, what he's you know,

879
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: some of the stuff. What he's about, You're gonna be

880
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: able to do that tomorrow night, seven pm. Beyond Blue

881
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: and Red on the Bills app and the.

882
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: Website famously led the NFL, and catch rate last season

883
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: was relatively low volume, but down the stretch and in

884
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: the playoffs was.

885
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 3: Just an integral part.

886
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 2: He was maybe the focal point of the Bills passing

887
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: game in the last four to six games, then into

888
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: those two games in the playoffs. Someone that is reliable,

889
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: he gets open. He's created a pretty good rapport with

890
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. What I'm wondering is, because he's so cheap

891
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: as a former fifth round pick, are the Bills just

892
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: gonna let him play out that deal and get into

893
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: his fourth season, or will he prove by say November

894
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: or December, just to be an invaluable part of this

895
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 2: offense that in twenty five is going to be paying

896
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel eight million dollars a year at receiver and

897
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: that will be the highest paid wide receiver on the roster.

898
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: We were talking about twenty five thirty thirty five million

899
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: dollar wide receivers. They really don't They haven't been shelling

900
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: out a lot of money to the receiver spot obviously

901
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: after trading Stefon Diggs. So maybe Khalil Shakir could be

902
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: in line to get kind of a lucrative multi year extent.

903
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: Not only that, it may be like they may be

904
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: talking about giving him an extension like the moment, it's

905
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: they're able to get him as early as they can,

906
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: so they can get him as cheaply, as inexpensively as

907
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: they can, give him some life changing money and give

908
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: him some guarantee whatever to get him tied. I don't

909
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: think you can let him get out the door. You

910
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: can't franchise.

911
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: Him, No, not as a fifth rounder.

912
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 4: I don't.

913
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't franchise him.

914
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: I mean, so he seems like someone to kind of

915
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: go off that we're going to see this beyond Blue

916
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: and Red video of Shaki working out. He also doesn't

917
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: seem like someone that would, you know, get to let

918
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: a contract dispute hinder his development that as a former

919
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: fifth rounder, he kind of embodies at Christian Benford, Hey

920
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: where did I come from?

921
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: Boise State?

922
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: And Day three of the draft really an obscure draft

923
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: pick again, developing all of these connections with Josh Allen

924
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: as being a low volume guy the fourth or the

925
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: fifth option, or maybe even further down the list than

926
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: that to start his career and became you know, the

927
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: first or the second option. For Josh Allen, who he

928
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: trusts more than anyone else, I think he would be

929
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: more apt to sign an early extension as opposed to No,

930
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: I want to play it out and I want twenty

931
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: five million dollars guarantee, right right, yeah, per year.

932
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we wanted to do We'll get back to

933
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet later in the show, but we want

934
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: to pull that one out because of the Beyond Blue

935
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: and Red that's gonna come out tomorrow night. We want

936
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: to highlight Shakir and promote that a little bit. We're

937
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We're gonna take your phone calls

938
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: and get back to the tweet sheet after the break.

939
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker is going to be on the show, probably

940
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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour, about two thirty. We'll

941
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: be here with you until three. Steve Tasker, Christrapasso. You're

942
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: listening to One Bill's Live presented by Clidah Health. I'm

943
00:46:29,640 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. The One Bill's Lives presented by called

944
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: Lighta Health. Welcome back to one Bill's Live for our

945
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: number two, Steve Tasker, along with Chris Trapasso, we've been

946
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: going over your responses to our question of which Buffalo

947
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: Bill's player will prove they deserve a new contract extension

948
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: with the play that they put forth in twenty twenty four.

949
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Got a lot of feedback from this, and we'll start

950
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: with the We'll just go to the tweet sheet and

951
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: go with from Joseph Groot. He says Groot, we will finally,

952
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: he will finally keep his ankles healthy, go over the

953
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: ten sack mark. He's going to be unstoppable this year.

954
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: I think the biggest threat to Buffalo is Buffalo. We

955
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: only lose when there are injuries or we hurt ourselves.

956
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: Otherwise we are unbeatable. We've talked about that a lot.

957
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Uh And yeah, it's a good call with Groot. He's

958
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: with Rousseau. He's a really good player. He's he has

959
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: steadily improved each of his years in the league. And

960
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you keep doing that, it's

961
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: hard to deny you're just, you know, the deserving of

962
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: a of a new contract. I'll say this though, about

963
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo being its own worst tenement. We've talked about that

964
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: a lot. And this is a team I'll say it again.

965
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: In the last three years, they've been beaten by double

966
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: by more than one possession once in the regular season once. Uh.

967
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: They are hard to beat. And if you're gonna beat them,

968
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 1: they've got to help you. Now, I'll say this too.

969
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: A lot of good teams feel that way. A lot

970
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: of good teams feel and they're right. Even when the

971
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: Bills beat the Chiefs, you know, the Chiefs will say

972
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: they help me. And you know, you think back to

973
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: that play where where they lined up off sides. Uh, yeah,

974
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: Kadarius Tony lined up off sides right before they do

975
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: this wild play where Kelsey throws a football back.

976
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

977
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: You, good teams are tough to beat unless they make

978
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: some mistakes. The Bills are one of those teams, no

979
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: question about it. So when you beat them, it's because,

980
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, Josh turns it over or somebody coughs it up,

981
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: or you get a tip pass. You think back to

982
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: the overtime loss to the Minnesota Vikings when you had

983
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: three game stopping plays, three of them that were game

984
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: enders in your favor for the Bills, and they all

985
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: three went catastrophically. The wrong way. It couldn't have been

986
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: They couldn't have gone worse, and you had three of them,

987
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: and of course, you know you end up losing the

988
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: game because of it. Yeah, you're right, the Bills are

989
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: their own worst enemy. But I'll say this, you know

990
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: a lot of teams will feel that exact same way,

991
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: and they should.

992
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: With Gregory Rousseau.

993
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: To me, the pressures have been there, and like you're

994
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: mentioning Steve his play against the run, setting that adge stacking,

995
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: shedding a blocker, making a play on the football he

996
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: came in. I remember the first training camp twenty twenty

997
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: one seeing Gregory Rousseau and I was like, is that

998
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: a tall cornerback. He's really filled out that six foot

999
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: almost six foot eight frame very well, which has helped

1000
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: him on those early downs.

1001
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: The pass rush ability he to me, physically is the.

1002
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: Most unique outside pass rusher in football, being as tall

1003
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: as he is, and he's still pretty flexible. What I

1004
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: think I would like to see, and I'm sure that

1005
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: the Bill is Bobby Babbit Sean McDermott all want to

1006
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 2: see this as well. The pressures have been good, and

1007
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: usually pressures are predictive of future sacks. He only has

1008
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: seventeen sacks in three seasons, had eight in twenty twenty two.

1009
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: That kind of felt like a mini breakout. But like

1010
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: that tweet sheet comment from Joseph mentioned, the ankle injuries

1011
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: kind of bugged him. Only had five sacks last season.

1012
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: So if he gets closer to those double digit sacks,

1013
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: plays well against the run, gets you fifty sixty seventy pressures.

1014
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: I think he's absolutely as a former first round pick

1015
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: that embodies that you know, ross specimen that the Bills

1016
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: have loved to pick. He's going to get that big

1017
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: contract extension.

1018
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 5: Well.

1019
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: I think one of the things he doesn't get credit

1020
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: for is his ability to play all three downs. First hand,

1021
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: second down, they're going to hand it off. He's a

1022
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: good run edge, he's a good edge setter. He doesn't

1023
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: shy away from contact or making hard tackles in the holes.

1024
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: They can reduce him down inside, and he can play

1025
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: over a guard or in between the guard, tackle on

1026
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: rundowns or short yardage. He's just a versatile player who

1027
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: gets a lot out of what he's got. So because

1028
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: of that, he's a really good candidate for this and.

1029
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: He's a great candidate because he's entering the fifty year

1030
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: option deal year and we know defensive ends are making

1031
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: astronomical money too, So not as though the Bills expect

1032
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 2: that they're going to be able to get all of

1033
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: these either twenty twenty five impending free agents or twenty

1034
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: twenty six free agents cheap. But he would maybe be

1035
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: one Gregory Rousseau where if you feel conviction about his

1036
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: develop you've seen it in the first three seasons, and

1037
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: maybe through October or November he's still having his arrow

1038
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: pointing upward.

1039
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: You probably want to get that one done.

1040
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: Before he hits free agency, because a great edge rusher that,

1041
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: like you're saying, Steve can play all three downs, is

1042
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: worth upwards twenty twenty five even close to thirty million dollars.

1043
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this though, there even if he

1044
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: hits free agency, he's not gonna be a he's not

1045
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: gonna be a top end guy because because the sack numbers,

1046
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: yes the sack numbers or not, the sack numbers are

1047
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: not there. Bills fans can love and respect him, but

1048
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: they also know that if you start getting twelve or

1049
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,479
Speaker 1: thirteen sacks a year, you're not going to stick around

1050
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: on anyone teammate. You're gonna test the market. You're gonna

1051
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: get an astronomical deal as well.

1052
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 4: You should.

1053
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: So back to the tweet sheet from Andrew, he says

1054
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: it's Spencer Brown, but it all depends on if he

1055
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: can stay healthy, considering the talent they have coming up

1056
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: from the draft, which you know, all these guys that

1057
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: they've drafted, Van Pran Grainger, Osiris, Torrance grab Grab, Yes, Grabel,

1058
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: we'll see. But for right now, Spencer Brown, I think

1059
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: you can and you can chisel it in stone that

1060
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the right tackle coming into the season.

1061
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: His health is a concern, but it has not been

1062
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: a detriment to him being on the field. I mean, famously,

1063
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: the Bills offensive line didn't lose a guy all regular

1064
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: season last year. The same five guys were on the

1065
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: field for every single snap. That's the best case scenario.

1066
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: You can bet. It's probably not gonna happen that way

1067
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: this year, no matter what happens. But yeah, the health

1068
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: concerns are real for Depenser only because he seems to

1069
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: be gutting it out during the regular season staying on

1070
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: the field.

1071
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: Did you hear yesterday he talked with John Scott of

1072
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: w GERZ and said that he hurt his shoulder in

1073
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: the playoff loss to the Chiefs. He's waiting on Big

1074
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 2: Tree Road on his way home, has his arm out

1075
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: the window because he was hot, even though it was

1076
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: obviously a colder night, and he did something and like

1077
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: dislocated his shoulder as he was waiting in traffic, called

1078
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: the trainer, turned around and came back to the facility,

1079
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: probably at midnight. So he said, he he is definitely

1080
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: someone you talked about toughness earlier. Spencer Brown will play

1081
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: through a possible, you know, close to shoulder dislocation that

1082
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: he did later and still play well in that Chiefs game.

1083
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: So he's not only just tough, but he can.

1084
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: Still maintain relatively high level of play even if he's

1085
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent.

1086
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that means something.

1087
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 4: I know.

1088
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy too, well, I'm gonna put finger quotes again.

1089
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy to normal people that you would even

1090
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: consider playing with a shoulder that may dislocate at any moment.

1091
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm it's just it's just a NFL guy. That's the NFL.

1092
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: I guess you's got to shake your head and shrug

1093
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: your shoulder and say that's the way it is.

1094
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: How many times did you play where you were I

1095
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: don't want to say nervous, but you knew that, Hey

1096
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not even close to one hundred percent, but

1097
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to still run down on a kickoff or

1098
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: a punt return and you know, still able to make

1099
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 2: a play a lot.

1100
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: Well, it was one hundred and eighty six games in

1101
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: my career, my majority of them.

1102
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: Majority exactly.

1103
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: So I have I have a a bunch of football

1104
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: cards out and you know, over the years, you get

1105
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of them. So there's like thirty five of

1106
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: them I got. I got like a half a dozen

1107
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: with me with I have a cast on my hand.

1108
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: I remember getting shot up to practice so I could

1109
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: go out and just practice. But that was, you know,

1110
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl week, so you kind of, you know,

1111
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: for sure, you kind of do it. Nobody was shooting

1112
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: anybody up just to practice during my day, but I

1113
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: did do it for games and practiced in the Super Bowl.

1114
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: It's just something you got to live with. Guys like

1115
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown or Typify that you don't find out how

1116
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: hurt they are until they decide to tell you. And

1117
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: some guys like it that way. Other guys, you know,

1118
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: want to pull the Willis Reid, you know, they want

1119
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: to be the hero, come out, limping out, you know.

1120
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 1: And you know there's you know, you can name guys

1121
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: around the league that have done that over the years

1122
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: where they they want to they want to be known

1123
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: as that guy. So yeah, it's a common thing. That

1124
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: sound it's crazy when you talk about it like we are. Yeah,

1125
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: he had his shoulder dislocated hanging it out the window

1126
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: of his car, and he played the next week, and

1127
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: he played the next week. So yeah, that's Spencer.

1128
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: Brown's a good one.

1129
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: He's a very good one. Another one from Evan and

1130
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: he's right. And this is we talked about it briefly

1131
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: in the last segment. It's probably Alan. The quarterback position

1132
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: has already been reset, and if he continues to perform

1133
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: at an MVP ish level, it'll probably be him. I

1134
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: don't have I think, yeah, that's right, I'll say this.

1135
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't know whether I don't get the feeling. Josh

1136
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: is the kind of guy to drop subtle hints to

1137
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: they say, hey, listen, it's time to redo my deal.

1138
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: It's not and that's not what Josh does. Now, his

1139
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: agent is going to do that, may do that for him,

1140
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: but I don't even know that Josh would even prompt

1141
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: his agent to, you know, say hey, what about it.

1142
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: No doubt, every year Josh plays well and play he's

1143
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: like he can play, He's going to be in the

1144
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: MVP conversation.

1145
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think, just on that quick note, the

1146
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: fact that Josh Allen finished what like fifth in the

1147
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: MVP vote last year was blasphemous. I thought Lamar Jackson

1148
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: winning the award, you know, his second award, but this

1149
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: one was probably the least deserving that we've seen, to

1150
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: me in recent NFL history, Josh Allen, even Brock perty

1151
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: Deck Prescott, I think we're more deserving. But you're right,

1152
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: when he's playing normal Josh Allen football, he's going to

1153
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: be in that discussion.

1154
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 3: What I wonder.

1155
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: Is is it's maybe from Josh, probably not, but maybe

1156
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: his agent this year without Stefan Diggs, if Josh proves

1157
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: that he can sustain the same level of effectiveness that

1158
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: he did down the stretch with you know, totally new

1159
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: cast of characters. We've said at eighty times that Khalil

1160
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: Shakiir is the only player that's caught a pass in

1161
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: the receiver group from Josh Allen. If he puts up

1162
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: MVP type stats, certainly the ground game, scoring those rushing touchdowns,

1163
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: he will have some legitimate justification to say I probably

1164
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: shouldn't be the eleventh or twelfth or three thirteenth highest

1165
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: paid quarterback in the league.

1166
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. The cap, the cap hit

1167
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the cash that he's getting paid.

1168
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: So whatever they do to reduce his cap, it's just

1169
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. In his post, it's just account that's accounting.

1170
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: So he's gonna make every cent of whatever contract he

1171
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: has signed, uh because he's not he's never gonna be

1172
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: anything but a Buffalo bill and uh so they're gonna

1173
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: make sure he's as happy as he can be. So yeah,

1174
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: I would say that's a really good that's a good

1175
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: response from Evan. I mean, Josh is really the name

1176
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: that he kind of always rings true. And the more

1177
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who aren't as good as Josh Allen there are

1178
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: that signed contracts better than Josh Allen's contract to get

1179
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: one TV making more than Josh Allen in any not

1180
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: in this universe, right soul though, yeah, it could for

1181
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: a minute, right, so we'll see from houseman time. He says,

1182
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: I know it's not fashionable to pay running backs right now,

1183
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: but if James Cook is able to clean up some

1184
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: of the drops and improve his production from last year

1185
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: and stay healthy all year, you've got to consider extending him.

1186
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: Right It'll be this is coming up, will be his

1187
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: third year. It's usually a year where players ascend greatly.

1188
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: If he does that, I mean he was still he

1189
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: was the lead dog last year. If he goes back

1190
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: there and ups his game significantly, like some players have

1191
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: in their third year, you may think about giving him.

1192
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, if you extend James Cook, it's

1193
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: like a two year deal.

1194
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: Sure.

1195
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: The running backs is just the way of life.

1196
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: It is.

1197
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: It's the life. They've chosen to be running backs. The

1198
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 1: position is just too brutal and too taxing and too

1199
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: physically demanding to think that or to count on a

1200
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: guy just to be there in three years from the

1201
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: time he signed the contract.

1202
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: Segue from Josh Allen to James Cook. You know, we

1203
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: looked at research that says age twenty seven, age twenty

1204
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: eight is really a quarterbacks prime. We've seen some MVP

1205
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: caliber season, super Bowl appearance as Super Bowl wins. So

1206
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: Josh Allen entering that age twenty eight season super encouraging,

1207
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: not that James Cook is there yet. Age twenty eight

1208
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: for running backs is when they fall off a cliff.

1209
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: If you're not named Derrick Henry, you fall off a

1210
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: cliff at twenty eight. So you're right that if you're

1211
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: deciding what we're gonna do with James Cook, if you're

1212
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: the Bills, you're not giving him three or four year

1213
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: deal and you know, pushing money into the future. He

1214
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: turns twenty five at the end of September, so I

1215
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: think this year a two year deal wouldn't be out

1216
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: of the question. I kind of lean toward just recycling

1217
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: these running backs through the draft, But to that point

1218
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: in the tweet sheet, James Cook's receiving ability kind of

1219
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: gives him maybe a little bit more leverage, where if

1220
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: he's just a between the tackles battering ram, there's not

1221
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: really much credence to say, let's give this guy X

1222
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: amount of dollars on top of his rookie deal. If

1223
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: he catches four or five, six seven receiving touchdowns and

1224
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: has forty to fifty catches for four to six hundred yards.

1225
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: He's really a multi dimensional part of this offense where

1226
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: maybe he and his agent could say, look, I'm a

1227
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: running back by trade, but I also bring a lot

1228
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: through the air with how it can catch the football.

1229
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: That's right, And that's really the thing that sets a

1230
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: running back apart is his ability to be versus a

1231
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: look at the deal that Christian McCaffrey just signed. I

1232
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: mean he can split out and beat a corner in

1233
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: one on one pass route, So not every corner, but

1234
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: certainly enough of him to make him a matchup problem.

1235
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: So they just you know, now he's making nineteen million

1236
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: dollars a year in Christian McCaffrey. So those that's the

1237
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: kind of skill set that is I think the standard

1238
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: for a lot of teams for the modern day NFL.

1239
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: And so if James Cook comes out and puts it

1240
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: together a Christian McCaffrey type season, yeah, you got to

1241
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: think twice about letting him go anywhere.

1242
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: Which it was Christian mccaff third season that he set

1243
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: a previous career high until he topped that career high

1244
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: rushing yards last year. So year three was when he

1245
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: really sprouted most backs efficiency wise, just because they're getting

1246
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: more carries, take a little dip, but we've seen high

1247
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: water marks from him, from Joe Mixon. Chris Carson was

1248
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: another one recently that we looked at that got to

1249
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: a career high rushing the football in year three. What

1250
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: I will say about James Cook, that's a little bit

1251
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: encouraging and could maybe say, hey, maybe he is worth

1252
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: signing to a one or a two year deal. He

1253
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: only had two hundred and thirty carries in college. He

1254
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: was behind Zameir White, a bunch of other backs in college.

1255
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey was the heart and soul of that Stanford

1256
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: rushing offense and passing offense. Yeah, I mean he came

1257
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: in with very low mileage into the NFL.

1258
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: Right, James Cook, did James Cook? Yeah, McCaffrey. I mean

1259
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: he was in the finals for the Heisman Trophy. A

1260
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: sensational college career, which means he got a lot of touches.

1261
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: NFL teams look back at that. I mean, the odometer

1262
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: is a big statistic when you're looking at running backs

1263
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: and evaluating their future and their past. Certainly you want

1264
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: to see enough touches to let you know what kind

1265
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: of talent they have, but you don't want to see

1266
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: so many touches that the guy ends up coming to you.

1267
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: And he's a used car, so Cook has that going

1268
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: for him. He's a little younger physically because of the

1269
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: lack of touches, and I think that plays well now

1270
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: that he's in the NFL and could spell one reason

1271
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: why he may have one of those third years where

1272
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: now he does. Now he's got a ton under his

1273
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: belt and he's still freshened the legs and young enough

1274
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: to be like, all right, now, I got this here we're.

1275
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: Going to say, And yeah, there's players aren't really.

1276
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: Warn exactly, they aren't really worn down, but he's all

1277
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: warmed up kind of thing. So I'm I'm I'm big

1278
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: on that buffalo down low down is one that you

1279
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: and I have been talking about, Christian Benford. He's not

1280
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: a household name yet, but year three will be his

1281
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: best yet. It could be.

1282
01:03:59,160 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 4: It could be.

1283
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, And the guy I'm I've been

1284
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: talking about this offseason has been the other side is

1285
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 1: kyri Elam new coaching staff. Yeah, I just don't see.

1286
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: I just don't see how they're gonna keep him off

1287
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: the fields, He's a little bit of a roller coaster,

1288
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: no question about it. I mean, you look back at

1289
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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh game last year. But I think in a

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Speaker 1: in a defense like this, and with a new defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator and more consistent reps, you've got a chance to

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Speaker 1: have a really special player on your hands. He's he's

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Speaker 1: an elite athlete, even at the corner position, which is

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Speaker 1: hard to be elite in a group in a room

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Speaker 1: full of elites, right, So I think he's got a

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Speaker 1: big things ahead of him. I think this may be

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Speaker 1: the year where theoretically, I mean, here's what I think,

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Speaker 1: at the end of this year, people are going to go,

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Speaker 1: why wasn't he playing so speed?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? For sure.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this too, Christian Benford is the obvious choice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the guy that's been there, he's done

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Speaker 1: it and done it and been very steady. But I

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Speaker 1: think Elam is a guy who has a chance to

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Speaker 1: be at least for moments like we see here in

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Speaker 1: this Pittsburgh highlight, at least for a couple of moments

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Speaker 1: to be spectacular, and at that position, that's game.

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Speaker 2: Change and how vital could that be for the Bills

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01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: that if in year three Christian Benford maybe doesn't become

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Speaker 2: all pro, but he just proves to be a solid starter.

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Speaker 2: He's entering then the final year of his deal, he

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have the leverage to say I want eighteen million

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Speaker 2: or twenty two million a year. The Bills could probably

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Speaker 2: sign him to a very cheap extension and get someone

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Speaker 2: that was a first round pick that has the size,

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Speaker 2: the length of speed, the pedigree. With his dad, a

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Speaker 2: former NFL defensive back, played his college ball at Florida

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Speaker 2: in the SEC, they could get him at kind of

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Speaker 2: a bargain because of how disappointing the first two years

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Speaker 2: have gotten and just had a late blooming situation with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're going to take a call which which

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills players will be most deserve prove

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Speaker 1: themselves deserving of a new contract in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: We've got a caller on the line, Judy from Buffalo. Judy,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on One Bill's Live with Steve and Chris.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead.

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Speaker 6: You know, as you mentioned, all these players that are

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Speaker 6: playing for contracts or stuncheons or everything, this is the

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Speaker 6: best thing the Bills could have have for them because

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Speaker 6: these players have to prove themselves this year. You know,

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Speaker 6: I can't single out any player, but the only thing

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Speaker 6: we have going for us if players want to make

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Speaker 6: themselves amenable to other teams or our team, because very frankly,

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Speaker 6: our schedule ses caares me, scares me to bets here.

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Speaker 6: So you know what, I hope they all succeed. I

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Speaker 6: hope they have great seasons because that's the one thing

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Speaker 6: that's going to carry the Bills this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, and we've mentioned that. Thanks for the call, Judy.

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Speaker 1: That's good stuff. And we've mentioned it too at different

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Speaker 1: times that Brandon Bean was really sharp because when he

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01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: first came here, he started doing this and people and

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Speaker 1: people didn't pick up on him. It took us a

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: minute to pick up on as well. A ton of

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Speaker 1: one year deals, a ton of them, prove it deals,

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Speaker 1: prove it deals, because what happens is just what Judy said,

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Speaker 1: These guys show up and say, all right, this is

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Speaker 1: my chance. I'm gonna knock it out of the park

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Speaker 1: in this season, and I'm gonna sign a deal with somebody,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not the Bills. And so the Bills

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01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: have got a bunch of guys out there that are

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01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: motivated on and off the field to do as well

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Speaker 1: as they can that season. So that's a big thing

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01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: because the NFL does nothing if not suck the desire

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01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: out of you. Because you hurt, it's hard to go.

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01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: It's hard to play hard and prepare hard when you

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01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: when you feel bad, when you hurt, when you're in pain.

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Speaker 1: Not so hard when you've got something to do it

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Speaker 1: for other than just you know, being a part of

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01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: something bigger. It's a real thing, and I think it's

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: it's a brilliant move by Brandon Bean who kind of

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Speaker 1: set the trend on that about six years ago when

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Speaker 1: his first offseason he's signing these guys to one year

1363
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: deals and they are They're coming in like gangbusters, really

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Speaker 1: helping the squad elevate.

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Speaker 2: What certainly helped too is, I mean it's one thing,

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Speaker 2: like you're mentioning, if you heard if you don't feel

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Speaker 2: like you have.

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Speaker 3: Much to play for.

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Speaker 2: What helps the Bills to kind of foster this competition

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Speaker 2: throughout the roster is they have Josh Allen. They are

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Speaker 2: a playoff to Super Bowl contender team, and you can

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Speaker 2: entice these one year deal type players to play their

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Speaker 2: best football and to really elevate their game because of

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Speaker 2: the competition. They're playing what five or six primetime games

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Speaker 2: a year, so it's not like, hey, come to Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: we don't have any primetime games and we might be

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Speaker 2: out of it or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Let's say this is a team that is a marquee

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Speaker 2: product for the NFL, with an elite quarterback who's got

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Speaker 2: a Gatorade commercial. This is your place where you will

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01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: be in December and January playing for something that means

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: something for this team, the city, and this entire.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, it's all those things in concert.

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01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: There's a there's fifty million moving parts to an NFL

1386
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: club going to and winning the super Bowl, and they

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01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: all got to be working this. Having Josh here as

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Speaker 1: an elite quarterback Entice's offensive skill players come play with it.

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Speaker 1: Playing guys like Christian Benford on the outside is a

1390
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick ahead of guys like Kyer Elam

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Speaker 1: shows that if you come in and you do it,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play. Those are the kind of opport and

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: one year deals all across the roster with guys who

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Speaker 1: are highly motivated to stay in the league and even

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01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: enhance their standing in the league financially. All that stuff

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Speaker 1: works in concert along with a head coach who is

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Speaker 1: you know, held account self accountable. You know, he's got

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Speaker 1: this growth mindset. He preaches that to his team. He

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01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: gets to know these guys. They and they protect the

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Speaker 1: players from themselves the whole thing. They don't let players

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01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: play hurt that are that shouldn't know some teams, Hey

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Speaker 1: push them out there, let's go. All of that plays

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01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: into why this club has been so successful and consistent

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01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: throughout Sean mcdermam's time here. Now, they haven't won the

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Speaker 1: whole thing yet. Let me tell you something. Nobody's looking

1406
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: to play them. No, I mean, nobody's looking like, hey,

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01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: this is a pushover team. So I think it's a

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01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 1: really smart move, and it's it's just one more thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, these one year contracts and getting these highly

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Speaker 1: motivated players on your team.

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Speaker 2: And the last layer to this quickly is that they've

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Speaker 2: brought in a lot of these one year deal guys

1413
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 2: or these lower level free agents are undrafted or six

1414
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: sixth seventh rounders, and they've developed them. So it's not

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01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: just hey, come here, you can maybe if you put

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01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: in the work, you can become the best player. They

1417
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: have created this environment that really does get the best

1418
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,839
Speaker 2: and accentuate all these players talents.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve Takers, we're gonna take a break. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna get Ross Tucker on the

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Speaker 1: line from the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, former NFL player,

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna talk to him about what's going on

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01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Stephen, Steve and Chris on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Life. Steve Taster, Chris Rpasso

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Speaker 1: here with you till the top of the hour. A

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Speaker 1: prieze to welcome in Ross Tucker, former NFL offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: the host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. You can

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01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: check out Ross on social media at Ross Tucker NFL.

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: He's also part of a kind of a cool company

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Speaker 1: called My Front Page Story. Ross, thanks for coming on

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Speaker 1: with us. Appreciate it's good to have you back. Interesting company,

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Speaker 1: My front page Story. Okay, Father's Day's coming up. Give

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Speaker 1: me an idea of what this is about.

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Speaker 7: All right, So, first of all, great to be on

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01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 7: with you guys. I specifically Steve wore my bills legend.

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Speaker 4: There you going to d T shirt? Hey you go,

1439
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 4: knowing I would be on with you guys.

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Speaker 7: And you know what my front page story dot com

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 7: I you know, they say what a picture is worth

1442
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 7: a thousand words. So for the people that are watching

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 7: us on the video, I'll show it. But basically it's awesome.

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 7: It's like everybody who's listening or watching right now, your

1445
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 7: dad loves the newspaper.

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01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: They do. It's a fact that every dad loves the newspaper.

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01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 7: So put them on the cover. Give him the cover

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 7: story that he deserves. You literally just go to myfront

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Speaker 7: page story dot com and order a story for your dad.

1450
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 7: You talk to one of their writers for I don't know,

1451
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 7: ten minutes, fifteen minutes while you're driving home from work.

1452
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 7: Maybe your siblings get involved as well, maybe your mom.

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01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 7: They'd say, how awesome your dad is, greatest guy ever.

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01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 7: And the next thing you know, there's this cover story

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01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 7: looks like it's on the cover of the Buffalo News,

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 7: framed pictures of your dad with you and your siblings

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Speaker 7: or your mom whatever.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing.

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Speaker 7: You know what's amazing, By the way, guys, people don't

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Speaker 7: care that much about Father's Day. Why do we, Steve,

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01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 7: I know you got a bunch of kids. I don't

1462
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Speaker 7: know if you have kids not. Why do we get

1463
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 7: short shrift? Like if you look at the sales for

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Speaker 7: Mother's Day versus Father's Day, dads deserve a cool gift

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Speaker 7: to get them on my front page story dot Com.

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Speaker 4: I can promise you your dad might.

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Speaker 7: Even cry a little bit when he reads the quotes

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Speaker 7: from you about how impactful he was in the success

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Speaker 7: of your life.

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Speaker 4: If you're a failure, probably don't mention that.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, you're right. And I think dad's get

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Speaker 1: shortchanged because people know what's dad gonna do. It's like

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01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: nobody's Dad's not gonna whine about it, right, you can't

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: do that. If your dad right, it's like, yeah, okay,

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01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: I get it right. So they know it's so funny about.

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Speaker 7: Away with it, you know, for like day, right, if

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01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 7: my wife said for Mother's Day she just wanted to

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Speaker 7: like go to the spa all day, or she just

1479
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 7: wanted to which my wife has said before, she just

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01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 7: wants to do the gardening around the house, and like

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Speaker 7: she wants me.

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Speaker 4: To take care of the kids. No, problem.

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Speaker 7: If a guy for Father's Day said they just wanted

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01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 7: to be by themselves, we would get shredded.

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01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, right, you would.

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Speaker 7: That's what you want for Father's Day? You shouldn't be

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Speaker 7: by yourself? Like why is that fair game for moms?

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01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 7: But for dads? That would make us a bad person?

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Speaker 7: That is, there's like a double standard here.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and there's no denying it. It's you're right. Everything

1491
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: you said is exactly right. It's a great gift idea,

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01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: and I recommend it to everybody out there. I guess now, now,

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01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: while we still have some time here, let's talk about

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01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: the big picture stuff. First of all, it seems like

1495
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: an inevitability there's going to be an eighteen game schedule.

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: The question is two questions, how soon? And second question

1497
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Speaker 1: is what's the players Union gonna get in return for this?

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: You know, well, how's this trade gonna work out? Because

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't get something for nothing in the NFL.

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna get eighteen game schedule. They're gonna you know,

1501
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: come further further enlarge their bottom line. What do you

1502
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: think the players Union's gonna get in return for an

1503
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 1: eighteen game schedule? You know, it's gonna happen, right.

1504
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is gonna happen. And to be honest with you,

1505
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 7: I would be in favor of it. Sometimes people are like, wait, what, oh,

1506
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 7: I would?

1507
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 4: I mean. The way I look at it is this.

1508
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 7: If you went in the day after every season I

1509
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 7: ever played in the NFL and you said to the guys, Hey, guys.

1510
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 4: I wanna play another game next week.

1511
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 7: You'll all get another game check, almost every guy would

1512
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 7: say yes. It's like, we already went through the whole

1513
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 7: offseason program, we already went through training camp, we already

1514
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 7: went through the whole season. At this point of the year,

1515
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 7: you're barely even practicing.

1516
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 4: You know, the practices aren't that bad.

1517
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 7: You're gonna give me a whole other paycheck for one

1518
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 7: more week and then I know after that I get

1519
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 7: months off.

1520
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 4: Heck, yeah, I would do it.

1521
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 7: So I think most players ultimately will be in favor

1522
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 7: of it.

1523
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 4: You know, some of the guys making crazy amounts of money, you.

1524
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 7: Know, the star player that are already making you know,

1525
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 7: twenty to fifty million dollars or whatever they're making. Maybe

1526
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 7: they don't maybe they don't want that. But I think

1527
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 7: most guys I made the minimum five of my seven years.

1528
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 7: I think most guys like that would be in favor

1529
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 7: of it. And you know, I think the two things

1530
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 7: they'll probably do Steve to entice the player to do

1531
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 7: it is give him a bigger piece of the pie,

1532
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 7: which is the number one goal that the players should

1533
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 7: go for. Right, So now they're getting forty eight and

1534
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 7: a half percent, try to get that thing to fifty.

1535
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 7: You know, the CBA, I don't believe, expires till twenty

1536
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 7: thirty one, right, so for the NFL to try to

1537
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 7: get this done before then, I think the NFLPA should

1538
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 7: drive a really hard bargain and try to get as

1539
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 7: close to fifty to fifty as they possibly could, and

1540
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 7: then within that, like, get a bigger pie, and then

1541
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 7: the NFLPA can decide how to divvy up that pie. Right,

1542
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 7: Is it bigger minimum salaries right across the board? Is

1543
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 7: it more on the health insurance side? Is it on

1544
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 7: the retired players? Highly doubt that, but that's an option

1545
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 7: as well, But it starts with getting as big of

1546
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 7: a pie as possible. I think twenty twenty nine, Steve,

1547
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,879
Speaker 7: is when the NFL can opt out of the TV deals,

1548
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 7: So I think that's probably the most likely scenario. Maybe

1549
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 7: they get it done before then, but I would think

1550
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 7: in conjunction with that opt out, as part of those negotiations,

1551
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 7: hey guys, we're getting you an extra game.

1552
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1553
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things too, is if

1554
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna give them an extra game, give them an

1555
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: extra bye week. I've been touting the Tasker plan for years.

1556
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: You should start the preseason when they started now, two

1557
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: preseason games, and then start playing regular season games, and

1558
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: then the whole league takes Labor Day weekend off. Give

1559
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: them everybody a week off at Labor Day, give the

1560
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: country and everybody that last summer bash with no football.

1561
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: They can go out inside and barbecue without having the

1562
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: TV on. They can take a trip, they can go

1563
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: on a weekend and then come back, and you start

1564
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: the sixteen game schedule with an extra bye week sprinkled

1565
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: in like always. But you've got two weeks of preseason

1566
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:40,839
Speaker 1: training camp, two preseason games, after that, two regular season games,

1567
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: then Labor Day, and then the sixteen game schedule with

1568
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: a bye week sprinkled in, and you can still have

1569
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in the first week of February. I

1570
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: know they want to get to President's Weekend, which makes

1571
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: a lot of sense, but I just think it's too

1572
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: easy and you should ask for all the things you

1573
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: ask for plus an extra buye so you get a

1574
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: game and a week off.

1575
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, there's certainly guys that really want to buy.

1576
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 4: You know what I never really understood.

1577
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 7: I actually want to ask some of the NFL people

1578
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 7: or the TV network people. They're not as excited about

1579
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 7: the extra buye as I would think they would be

1580
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 7: in my head.

1581
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 4: Right, you have eighteen games and two buys.

1582
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 7: That's twenty weeks of regular season NFL television inventory, whereas it.

1583
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 4: Used to be seventeen. That's three more weeks. But I

1584
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 4: guess they don't like diluting it that much and having

1585
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 4: less games each week. I'm a little bit I need

1586
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 4: to do a little more research on that.

1587
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 7: Because what I've been told that the networks don't want

1588
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 7: the second by, and I never really understood why.

1589
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well this might Hey, the tasker plan is perfectly

1590
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: because nobody gets a game on Labor Day, and you know,

1591
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: you don't get that extra diluted. The problem is you

1592
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: get in a primetime window, we're stuck watching you know,

1593
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: a bad Jacksonville team playing a bad Arizona team, you know,

1594
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: or what have you. I'm just using those as an

1595
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: arbitrary example. You get a bad matchup, you get a

1596
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: bad game. Nobody wants to see two teams out of

1597
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs, two teams with no chance of the division,

1598
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: and you got to watch them at four point thirty

1599
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: on a Sunday afternoon when nothing else is on. The

1600
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: problem becomes there's the game. Matchups are not sexy enough

1601
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: on those bye weekends, when you've got the Cowboys, the Bills,

1602
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs all off the record, taking them all

1603
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: off the schedule, taking a bye that's the problem. I think.

1604
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 4: I think you're right.

1605
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 7: I think that's part of it is that they worry

1606
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 7: a little bit. Do they have enough marquee games to

1607
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 7: put in those spots.

1608
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 4: But I'm going to be up at the NFL League

1609
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: office next week. I might ask some people.

1610
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 2: All Right, we've talked family life, we've talked potential longer schedule.

1611
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,839
Speaker 2: I want to ask you Ross, as a former player,

1612
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 2: what are your overarching thoughts on this proposed like revamped

1613
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 2: off season schedule where the players would get a longer

1614
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: break right after the season and then come back for

1615
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: a longer ramp up to training camp. I've seen a

1616
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: lot of pushback that says, hey, this is the time

1617
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: when you know, like these players have their their kids

1618
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 2: off from school. But then I've seen the other side

1619
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: of it, where the longer ramp up and only two

1620
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: preseason games makes more sense. How would you view that

1621
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: if the league decides to kind of totally revamp what

1622
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: they do in the offseason program.

1623
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 7: So interesting, Chris, because there's like several thoughts that come

1624
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 7: to mind. Right First one was, for a lot of guys,

1625
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 7: this would allow them to have an entire spring semester

1626
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 7: of school right now. I guess so much of that's

1627
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 7: online now anyway, probably, but you know, if they want

1628
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 7: to go back to campus, they could be there the

1629
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 7: whole time and they wouldn't have to miss anything.

1630
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 4: Really football related.

1631
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 7: You know, I always thought it was a little bit

1632
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 7: weird that, you know, we would be there up in

1633
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 7: Buffalo from maybe the second week of March to the

1634
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 7: second week of June, and then you'd have six weeks

1635
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 7: off until training camp.

1636
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 4: That never really made sense to me, right It's.

1637
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 7: You know, look, there were guys, you know, I can

1638
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 7: tell you right now, a couple of Buffalo Bill's players

1639
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 7: that in that six week period. One of them came

1640
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 7: back to training camp four oh eight one year. The

1641
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 7: next year, a different player came back at three eighty eight,

1642
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 7: and I think he had gained fifty pounds during that

1643
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 7: six week period, which seems hard to.

1644
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 4: Do unless you're trying to do it.

1645
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 7: So it never made sense to me that you had

1646
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 7: those six weeks off.

1647
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 4: But in a weird way, Chris, because.

1648
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 7: I was going to do all the right things, I

1649
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 7: kind of liked it because I thought it was a

1650
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 7: competitive advantage with me trying to in the starting job

1651
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 7: at left guard or center or whatever, or even just

1652
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 7: make the team.

1653
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 4: I felt like, well, I'm gonna be more disciplined probably

1654
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 4: than that guy. So these six weeks off is good

1655
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 4: for me. But it didn't make sense.

1656
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 7: I think, Yeah, what the NFLPA is proposing is more

1657
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 7: logical to make sure guys are ready to go for

1658
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 7: training camp.

1659
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and interesting too the owners. I may be wrong

1660
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: about this, but to me, the owners could not possibly

1661
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: care less what happens in the offseason. You know, they

1662
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: may get it from a head coach as hey, I

1663
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: need these guys in here, and saying the Kellner's like, hey,

1664
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't care they if you can do what you

1665
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: want in the offseason, but they better show upright to

1666
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 1: play on in September. Who could possibly care less is

1667
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: whether you know if they're going to show up out

1668
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,879
Speaker 1: of shape. We don't want them on our team anyway.

1669
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 1: But if you can, and if you get them in

1670
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: there and you can ramp them up, that's fine. I

1671
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: don't have to feed them in these OTAs. I don't

1672
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: have to feed them in the mini camps. I don't

1673
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 1: want want to see him for six months. Nobody cares

1674
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: because the TV, the cameras aren't on. The owners don't care.

1675
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's making money in the offseason. They so the owners,

1676
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: I would think, even if the coaching staffs give them

1677
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: a big pushback, say no, we need these guys in

1678
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: to teach in place yet, Okay, where's it? What's in

1679
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 1: it for me? What's from our bottom line? Are we

1680
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: getting anything out of it? The answer is no. If

1681
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: nobody else can do it, figure it out, you do

1682
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: it the best way you can. This seems to me

1683
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: like easy, easy give up for the owners for having

1684
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 1: these players just disappear and show up earlier mid July

1685
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: and say let's get it started and go.

1686
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 7: Well, that's why when I saw that, my initial post

1687
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 7: on social media at Ross Tucker NFL was that that

1688
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 7: cannot be part of what the players are asking for.

1689
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 7: That mat to me, is a totally separate issue. That

1690
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 7: cannot be part of the negotiations for an eighteenth game

1691
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 7: because it's not worth it. It's not it's not a

1692
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 7: big enough it's not it's not significant enough. If I

1693
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 7: can go either way on it, that's not worth using

1694
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 7: up negotiating capital for it, right at all?

1695
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 4: And you're right.

1696
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 7: I mean, look, Steve, you know, I mean there's some

1697
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 7: owners that all they care about is that they have

1698
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 7: forty eight guys in uniform for those seventeen Sundays, I mean,

1699
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 7: you know, and that the stands are packed.

1700
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 4: That's all they really like. I don't even care about

1701
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 4: I don't care about anything else.

1702
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 7: Just make sure the guys show up for the games

1703
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 7: when the TV's on so we can get the money

1704
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 7: and so the state say them can be full.

1705
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: That's right. It's and it's a weird thing, and you're right,

1706
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: it's it's about the percentage of revenue share is the

1707
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: big one, and the offseason schedule. Yeah, it's important, probably

1708
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: to the players because it does give them a chance,

1709
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, to set up a business in the offseason,

1710
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: go finish their degree, work to you know, spend some

1711
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,959
Speaker 1: real time, some extended time doing something that maybe prepares

1712
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,879
Speaker 1: them for the day when they can't play football anymore.

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01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: All that ends, spend time with their wife, their kids,

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01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, do that, relocate to their home city, all

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01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Not that they don't do that anyway,

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01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: but it just there is no benefit to me to

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01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 1: make this a battleground if you're the NFL, unless you

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01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: can get the players to think it's this battle crack

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01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: because you're ready to give it up anyway.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly correct. They don't care.

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Speaker 7: They'll probably act like, well, no, we can't have that.

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01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,959
Speaker 4: No, oh okay, well yeah we'll.

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01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 7: Allow it, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's that

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01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 7: is not a negotiating negotiating item. In my mind, I'd

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01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 7: be very disappointed if that was something that the NFLPA

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01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 7: made a priority.

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01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, thanks so much for being on with this.

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01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. I know it's hard to

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01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: schedule you. You're as busy as the broadcast industry as anybody,

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01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: and appreciate you taking some time for us.

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01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 4: Thanks, Ross, Yeah, of.

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01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 7: Course, my pleasure always great, you know, with you guys,

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01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 7: And it's kind of like you, Steve, I'm trying to

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01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 7: avoid a real job as long as I possibly can,

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01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 7: and we.

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01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: Are doing it to the greatest extent. Man, Take care

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01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: of Ross.

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01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 4: Appreciate you all right, See you guys.

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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker former NFL offensive lineman and the host of

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01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. And he's also Yeah, he's

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01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: at Ross Tucker NFL, as he mentioned, and his company

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01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: Front Page Story. Father's Day's coming up. Check it out

1744
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: Front Page Story's he's one of the guys that kind

1745
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: of really gets the thing about the He's totally right.

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01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: If you really want to get something out of an

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01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: eighteen game schedule, it's got to be money in hand.

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01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: Forty eight and a half percent should go up to

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01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: fifty percent because think about it, that money that they're

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01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: going to get start getting from streaming services and the

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01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: standalone games on Black Friday, on Christmas Day on it's

1752
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: a lot of money. It's it amounts to, like, you

1753
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: know what, toured almost almost a million bucks a team

1754
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: right to their bottom line. Nothing changes. It's just right

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01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: to their bottom line. She's an extra million bucks and

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01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: the players like all. You know, they'll get their share

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01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: of that eventually because it goes into the pot. But

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01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, if they want to keep extending the season

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01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: and lengthening it and stretching it out and this eighteen

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01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: game thing, think about it, and it's like a like

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01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: a twelve percent increase in your product. That's a no brainer.

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01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 2: I think they'll ultimately get that. They'll say one more game,

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01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,719
Speaker 2: maybe another bye week, align everything with President's Day weekend,

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01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 2: and even if they get from forty eight and a

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01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: half to forty nine or close to fifty, that's millions

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01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 2: and millions of dollars on the salary game.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Christopasso, we'll be back right after this to

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01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: wrap things up. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio and you're

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01:28:47,760 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: listening to One Bill's Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: We got about a minute before we wrap things up,

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01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: Christoph Pass, So thanks for coming in and spending time

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01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: with me. The last couple of weeks, Brownie and I

1774
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: have been taking spotty days off and tomorrow, actually Chris

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01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 1: Brown's gonna be back in the chair. I'm gonna be gone,

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01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: Mattie's gonna be in for me, So it'll be two

1777
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: other people doing one bills live. Ye, that may be

1778
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: a first ever to have both new people from one

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01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: day to the other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been kind of musical cheers here.

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01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: But it's been a long time. It's that time of

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01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: the year though.

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01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: And on a non football note, Dr Pepper has become

1784
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: the second biggest soda brand behind Coca Cola. Today Show

1785
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: tweeted that I think it's because of you, because you're

1786
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 2: always rinking.

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01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: A diet doctor's a diet doctor guy, So what are

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01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Hey, we'll be back tomorrow, Matti Glab

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01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: Chris Brown in tomorrow one o'clock. Be there, b Square.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you later. Everybody, thanks for joining