WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 9 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:14.120 Here's Jaguars Dawn Extra Voice by John Parny. God it 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:21.439 is Monday, December nine. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jack 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.079 Wars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.600 now the Broken Bones that St. Paul is referring to. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:35.919 J P. Shadra Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.560 Jet Home Loans, J P. Shadrick, Tony Maselli, Pete Priscoe. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.760 In the aftermath of a forty five tin loss to 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:48.159 the Los Angeles Chargers, five consecutive losses for the Jags, 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.519 Here's what's coming up on the program today, will recap 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.320 that ball game. Of course, the defense seems like it's done. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.800 There's no offensive magic even with Minshew. We're gonna open 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.160 it fell draft talk tonight. Officially, the Jags are eliminated 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:10.560 from postseason contention. Social media questions, Yes, social media questions, 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:15.640 AMC South breakdown that will go around the National Football League. Gentlemen, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:21.759 Good afternoon, Tony, How are you sir? I'm good, Pete, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.119 how are you? It? Depending? It depends on part of 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.319 my life you talk about like overall, like life's good. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:33.360 My football life right now not so good. I'm great. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.200 I'm fantastic because you have no loyalty. You have no 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.560 loyalty to anyone but yourself. True. True, that is true. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.920 So it's hard to be bad as long as you're 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.039 doing good. Every as everything's going good for me and 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:51.240 my wife, I'm happy. Yeah, you're correct, um, Tony. That 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.440 is the worst football team I've ever seen right there 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.600 for a five game stretch. Well, I don't know, maybe 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:01.720 since because it's the first teams to lose five straight 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.680 games by seventeen or more. Yeah, who was the last 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:09.360 team to do that? Thats who were weren't very good either, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:14.600 But it's the worst Jaguars team by far. Well yeah, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.480 if you're expansion team, if you played them, would be 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:24.639 favored by a touchdown. It's shocking. It is shocking how 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.880 bad they are. And I mean it's painful to say 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.640 because obviously love the team and love the franchise and 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.280 all that and and friends on in the building. But 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.640 they're bad. I mean, there's no two ways about it. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.440 They are a bad football team right now and there 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.639 as we sit here right now, they're the worst team 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.400 in the National Footballague. Yes, that was Are they worse 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:51.959 than the Bengals? Yes, Bengals are hanging in games, Yes 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.240 they are. Tony Dolphins are. Dolphins are hanging in games. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.040 The Giants, we'll see you tonight, but they're hanging in games. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.760 Got a quarterback. The Redskins hung around a little bit 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.280 with the Packers on the road yesterday. If this Jaguars 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.040 team went to play Rogers and that gang in Green Bay, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.880 yeah we are. Yep, that's fair. And the same thing 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:16.880 about it is they are the worst team in the league, 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.800 but they have no chance to get the top overall 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:25.800 pick none. Even if you guaranteed three straight wins, which 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.520 somebody said you did, I have no chance. I never 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.800 guaranteed three straight wins. We're gonna win three straight, guaranteed 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.360 seven straight. I got a text. I got a text 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.160 from somebody that said you locked the last three three games. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.440 That's not accurate. I've not locked anything. I said. They 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.360 would not win again if they continue to play it 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.440 this way. Well you don't have to. By the way, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.480 you don't have to put that little qualifier on the 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.160 end of it. They will not win again, is what. Yes, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.240 you can stop right there. Okay, fine, that's fine. I'm 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.880 not gonna argue that. I never whoever told you that 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:02.720 lied a little birdies in Jacksonville. That's you know, they chirp, Well, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.360 they can chirp all they want. They're chirping. Crap in 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.000 your ears what they're chirping. I don't know if I'm 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.600 allowed to say that word, but I just did. You 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:15.200 just did. So we are we all are in agreement 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.880 right now that they're the worst team in the National 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:21.320 Football League right now as they are right now? Yes, yes, yes, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.360 well didn't I mean, so I want to argue that point. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:32.120 I'm not sure you can't argue that point. So they've 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.599 been one seventy four to fifty seven is the score 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.240 the last five games. Here's a better question, because now 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.080 the season is over, so who cares what the records 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.800 alreadymore and some would argue you'd be better off having 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.880 the worst record in the NFL at this point to 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:50.000 get the one number one overall pick um, though, why 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.039 can't you, pete? Because the worst that the Bengals would 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.000 be would be four, and they beat the Bengals, the 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.440 Bengals could lose the next three and they oh yeah, four, 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:02.520 that's right, yeah, m hmm um, So they can't um 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.200 pete uh, and the Bengals aren't warning three Straights, so 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.120 it doesn't matter anyways, they play in New England this week. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:12.240 Yeah they're here's a better question, and I don't know 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:13.720 if we can do it on the radio or not, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.520 because I mean it would have to be it would 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.280 be tough to do player by player. Is it the 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:26.040 worst roster in the NFL? Well, look, you can start 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.560 with the quarterback and compare him to who's playing for 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.880 the teams right now right they're not the Minshoe is 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:37.400 not better than Ryan Fitzpatrick right now, he's not. He's 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:42.320 not better than Andy Dalton right now. He's probably better 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.200 than Dwayne Haskins right now or as good. So we're 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.160 going through the worst teams. These are the worst team. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:54.719 He is he better than k Eli Manning or Daniel Jones? No, okay, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.800 so he started that position. The only one that's there 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.440 is that puts you into conversation with the red Skins. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.880 Is the Jackson offensive line better than Washington's offensive line? Tony, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.840 I haven't done the Redskins this year. If they're okay, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.320 they're not good up front, they don't have a lot. Actually, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.480 did the Redskins against the Vikings earlier? They weren't bad. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.440 They were terrible. They're all right, all right, but not 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.920 much difference. Yeah, I mean nothing, Yeah, okay, all right. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:28.960 Running Peterson is not better than four net. He's hurt again. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.280 He's hurt again. McLaurin is good, but he's not better 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.120 than Chark when he's on the field. So are they 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.440 are the receiving corps equal to each other? No, the 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.440 Redskins are worse, I think. Okay, tight end, Okay, I 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:43.880 don't care who they have a tight end. They're better 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:49.520 the defense. The defense is much better in Washington, probably 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.800 at every level. Yeah, they had like Dag's had six 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.919 or seven undrafted guys on the field every lefday, including 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.760 Boy and Avery. But yes, well, and here's the thing 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.760 with that, there's only two injuries is on the defense. 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.440 So it's not like these are guys who are playing 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.880 because they have all these injuries. It's Jack who are 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:14.080 the injured guys? Jack and in Harrison, Well, and he's 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.880 he wasn't that good anyways, He's apparently coming back this week. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:22.240 And Jack wasn't playing very well. Um, so it might 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:27.400 be the worst roster. Well, defensively, it's certainly the worst roster. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.120 You have two major assets like we always talked about 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:36.280 in Allan and in Gockway and class is a shell 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:41.800 of himself now and boy's okay. The rest of it 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:47.080 is a bunch of who are you and you paid 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.600 and you paid a lot of money for one of 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.080 those who are you right now? Well one of the 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.880 injury guys? Yeah, and Jack. It's not a good it's 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:02.160 it's it's not a good situation at all. Period. That's 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.880 the other thing we were talking about before the show, Tony, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.520 is it the worst situation in the league right now? Well, 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.320 I think it's tough to overcome. The situation would be 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.360 the worst situation in the NFL as long as the 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.800 Redskins and Daniel Snyder are involved and Bruce Allen, Yeah, 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.680 I mean, as long as long as I mean that 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.920 group's kind of doing what they're doing, I think you're 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.880 safe to say it's really it's like are you thirty? 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.600 First way to say, I mean, you cover the league 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.320 as much as anybody, do you disagree with? Yeah, I 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.320 mean I would take Sean Khan over Daniel Snider anything, anybody. Why, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.720 I would take Sean kN over a lot of owners. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.760 But yeah, it's not the issue. That's not the issue 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.360 perform a football standpoint, Bruce Allen isn't better than anything 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.000 they have there. But that's not saying much. The other 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:48.839 thing is. But here's the other Me and j P 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.280 were talking about this. They at least have a young 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.880 quarterback they really like that they draft in the first round. 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.360 That whether he's playing to that level, who knows, but 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.960 that's the guy they They clearly drafted him with an 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:04.280 I on being the franchise quarterback Jacksonville spent and he's cheap. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:06.640 Jacksonville spent all that money on a guy they thought 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.920 would be a franchise quarterback and they sat him down. Well, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.800 that's the tough thing is I mean you I'm not 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.079 saying you're in cap hell or anything or cap jail 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.000 as a team, but it's not a great cap situation 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.160 here either. I mean, you're gonna have to let it 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.079 go a lot of guys, a lot of defensive guys 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.199 from a defense that's not playing well to begin with, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:29.520 because you can't afford them. Um, how do we how 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.959 did Pete? I mean, I'm gonna ask you because I 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:38.439 think sometimes for JP and myself and other people on 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.880 the Jaguar Network that are around it, you can get 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.679 too close to it, and it's dangerous because you either 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:49.520 can be blinded or be overly negative. Like either of 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.880 those are real possibilities that when you get really close 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.959 to something. Man, I think it's human nature. I think 0:09:56.000 --> 0:10:00.160 we've tried to be pretty balanced and pretty uh, you know, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.800 fair about how we do this re pete from the distance. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.440 I mean, you're sitting, you sitting cover the entire league. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.400 You're sitting Fort Lauderdale, and you kind of at CBS, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.480 You're you're see a wide spectrum and you hear things 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.160 and you know things, and you talk to people. How 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.920 did this team get here? How did they become? We 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.560 just went through and let me just recap what we said. 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.959 We said it probably is the worst or one of 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.240 the worst. Let's not forget worse, because it's hard. That's 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.160 you're splitting hairs at the bottom. It doesn't matter. But 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.079 one of the worst rosters in the NFL. Correct, And 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:38.040 how did how did that happen? Well, it starts with 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.719 two thousand and seventeen. Go back to what me and 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:45.640 you always say, Tony being an aberration. That was an 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.559 aberration and you say it all the time. I say 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.760 it all the time, you're gonna have that season where 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.760 the ball bounces your way. Two quarterbacks in your division, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.439 don't play, um, you get all those things go your way. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.240 And that season they were. Then they got the off 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.760 game in Pittsburgh, they played well and quite prickly, they 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.240 played well. Okay, I get it, but you're not you're 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.640 not telling me how we got here. I mean, because 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:13.080 we're we're talking about the aberration. We're talking about now 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.080 we're just talking about players. I mean, how did as 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.360 as a team. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna move 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.280 from that aberration to how it happened. They bought in 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.920 the Bordles and he was a mirage, Right, so you 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:28.079 pay Bordles and you keep Bordles, and that prevents you 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.000 from getting a quarterback for the future. Hey, you had 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.439 a lot of veteran free Let's stop. Let's stop there 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.400 real quickly, because I'm not sure Bordles was a mirrage, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.599 because when did we ever say on he was a 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.960 rookie in fourteen, fifteen or sixteen, did at any point 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.920 during those times and we ever think that he was 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.320 a guy that you could win a championship with those 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.440 first three years? No, but but when they paid them. 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.000 They clearly thought that okay, okay, they did okay, keep 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.800 going all right, So that prevents you from doing some 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.280 of the things you need to do. Hey, you're the 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.719 draft a quarterback b so then your quarterback out when 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.000 he plays like he normally plays, when everything around him 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:12.200 isn't falling into place. The defense, the two safeties were 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.080 older free agents that you signed. They had they started 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.840 the decline. Off they go. Malik Jackson when you signed him, 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.319 that was a good signing. By the end of it, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.559 was it a good signing? No? Off he goes. And 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.160 now you look at Kelvin Smith left, not that he 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.760 was a great player. After Paul pause leslie N left, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.160 Paul paulus N. Then what do you have? You have 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.400 holand linebacker. Then all of a sudden, your draft picks 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.199 which you you thought were great. Look, Jalo Ramsey, great player. 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.520 Look what happened? Miles Jackie thought you stole him in 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.840 the second round. Now you don't think you stole him 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.680 in the second round. So you start, you know, looking 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.559 comparing to the defensive players, to the draft picks that 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.160 are blown all of a sudden, your defense is a disaster. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.360 Clay's Campbell age crepped in big problem. He's starting to 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.280 show it. So that's why the defense is wear it is, right, 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:01.839 So let me listen. I want to just break down 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.080 and then you go to the offense. And so basically 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.480 is what you're saying is you built a defense. You 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.480 missed on draft picks on defense, and you built it 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.760 through free agency, which is a short window and age 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.920 quickly and create cap issues. Now now you're sitting there 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.520 paying the price for a missing draft picks and paying 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.079 for paying too much, for not paying too much you 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.840 always do, but just going trying to build to free agency. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.439 That nothing not paying your draft picks. Okay, that's a 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.160 that's on the offensive side of the ball. You what 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.120 happened was is you decided you were going to draft 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.320 a running back forth overall. There's your first, first, and foremost. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.240 That's your number one problem. And why did they draft 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.440 the running back running back forth overall Tony Because they 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.840 thought they had portals. If they don't believe in Bortles 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.199 and they don't get caught up at all that they 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.640 don't sign them to the long term deal and they 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.480 probably draft Mahomes or Watson in that spot and suddenly 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.760 now you look at the franchise, you go, Okay, they 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.199 still might have an aging defense, but now they have 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.800 a quarterback who could carry them through that j defense. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.199 And so I think that was part of the problem. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.600 Who whoever in that building and I have an idea 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.880 who it was, because I know his history. Whoever in 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.040 that building wanted the draft Leonard for that. This is 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.320 not an indictment of Leonard for Net, because I think 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.679 he's turned things around. He's become a better player, and 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.040 he's become a much better person. But you don't draft 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.760 that running back at four when you have an opportunity 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.920 to get a quarterback. There's the problem. On offense. Who 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.640 was it Pete? Then it was Tom? It was clearly Tom. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.600 I mean I can go back and it referenced Curtis 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.840 Enis and and you know they years ago they were 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.080 gonna draft Curtis. What was Curtis Enis? He was a big, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.280 physical back who he thought could come in and pound 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.000 the football. He didn't get him. He was infurious that 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:44.880 he didn't get him. What was Leonard four net when 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.880 he drafted him? A big, powerful back, That's why he 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.320 drafted him. Yeah, But I mean I think I mean, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:56.000 Listen does. And ultimately, since Tom's been here, we don't 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.320 need to know whose decision it was because at the 0:14:58.400 --> 0:14:59.600 end of the day, he has to sign off on 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.400 all of this Asians, he's the boss, and so um, 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:07.800 that's just that's reality. But Pete, this goes beyond just 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.800 that seventeen draft. I mean that's just three years ago. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.520 Your foundation is built, is supposed to be built. You're 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.640 supposed to have depth because over you keep draft picks 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.400 for you signed him the second deals you you know, 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.600 so the draft is supposed to build you, you know, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:29.600 at least a handful of guys over six, seven, eight years. Right, Yeah, 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.200 that's why you have to go out in free agency 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.840 and sign these guys because the draft didn't work out, right, 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.640 And so I just want to make sure, I mean, well, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:37.800 since I mean, at the end of the days, it's 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.840 Tom's ben here, it's his responsibility. That's the way it is. Okay, 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:48.280 let's go, Tony, let's go through. Tom's first draft was okay, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.680 four net four overall, that's not a good pick. Pretty 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.320 good player, but not a good pick in that spot. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.520 Cam Robinson, second round, that's a terrible pick, right now, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:05.480 Smooth there, around. He's he's a backup D. D. Westbrook 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.520 in the fourth round. He's your third receiver. Right now, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.600 that's not a bad pick that, but the rest of 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.840 that draft terrible. I mean, okay, but here's the problem. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.000 Here's where you run into your problems and you're you, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:24.080 you're spot on with this. They drafted well in fourteen 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.600 except for Bordles. There's Mark Eastley. You can't count on 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:32.000 the guy getting hurt. Allen Robinson they let go. Well, 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:33.880 So that's like I thought about that the other night 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.960 watching Allen Robinson. I did the Bears, the Bears Chicago 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.960 of this Bears Cowboys game, and I'm like, here's a 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.440 number one receiver on a team that went to the 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.080 playoffs last year, is in the wild card hunt right 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.760 now with a okay quarterback. But he's the number one 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.920 guy and is a good player, and we drafted him. 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.920 Did they not offer him something? Though? Before we left? 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.280 I've heard of well, and I've heard all kinds of 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.240 different things, and I don't know what's right or wrong. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.760 But some people say, and again this is Hearsaye, so 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.800 I'm you know, but we're on a radio show. That's 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.280 what you do, right, What happens here is that he 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.480 didn't want to play with Blake, that he didn't like 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:19.800 he wanted to go handed up with Blake. Be careful 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.480 what you wish for um now, whether that's true or not, 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.880 but the bottom line is there's a guy that we drafted. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.520 It's a good player no longer here, but you go 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.439 for the other one, Tony, I'm gonna give you this one. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.439 This is a perfect example of how you get into trouble. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.399 They used the second round pick on Jonathan Cyprian in 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.080 two thousand and thirteen. They used the fourth round pick 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.159 on James Sample in two thousand and fifteen. When you 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.040 go into two thousand and seventeen, those two are supposed 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.720 to be your starting safeties when you draft him where 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.399 you drafted him, and instead they had to go in 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.840 and spend money on Gibson and Church because they didn't 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.400 have safe because those two guys didn't work out. That's 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.600 how you get into drum. That's exactly right, because the 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.040 guy now sip is is I mean, he's is he 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.160 still at the Eagles pete on this third or four team. Yeah, 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.920 Sample is not only thing in the league. He got 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.119 hurt early. Remember he was never. I mean, so, I 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.840 mean this is, this is the problem. And now the 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.560 good news is the bad news you have some camp issues, 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.320 but you can fix that. The other piece of bad 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:24.800 news is you have a lot of holes to fill. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.240 The good news is you have a lot of drafts 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.080 picks coming up. You have two first rounds first round, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.000 you have four first rounders in the next two years. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:38.200 But you got a hit. And I mean this is 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.280 it's all over the internet. And you know, since Jalen 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.960 has been traded, you know, the Rams have more first 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:49.600 rounders on their roster than we do. Who's the best 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:55.639 draft pick of the Kauughlin regime? Um, I would have 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.840 to say d J. Chark. You know who else a 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:11.760 be from value standpoint? Boy, how great? 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And um, it was one of this 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.280 head coach Jack Marone yesterday after the Jaguars lost to 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.360 the Chargers Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:41.399 Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli joining us again. Well you're welcome 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.080 back to you Glad you can make it. Glad you 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.440 can make it back? Are you talking about that's the 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.760 best best two minutes of the shows. When he's not around, 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.800 I was talking wasting to not come into it. I 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:55.080 almost didn't come. I was talking to your old your 0:23:55.119 --> 0:24:00.680 old times union partner, John Mr Pony to John Oshan, 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:05.760 Mr Positive and even he can't be positive, he's been 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:09.560 out of control negative. I mean, how could you not 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:15.000 be though? Realistically at this before the show. I'm gonna 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.000 ask you how many people were really there? Give me 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:18.879 a guest of it. Let's see if you and JP agree. 0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:22.320 I thought thirty eight, Oh your your way over where 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:29.000 JP thought it was. I thought it, be honest, there 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.720 was it was. It was more than it was. Thirty 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.159 eight toty count seats as people now, No, no, no, 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:36.760 because you have to count all the standing area and 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:38.639 everything else, because they have a bunch of the bud 0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.120 zone that I bet you was. I bet we're gonna 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.400 find out. They'll tell me it was thirty eight forty 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.120 it was. It looked. I'm gonna tell you it looked 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:52.119 terrible on TV. It was terrible. Let me, doesn't look 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.600 quite look that bad. Yes it does in the stadium 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.119 that holds sixty eight, Yes it does. They had thirty 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.879 eight to forty in that stadium before, and we just 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:04.400 saw it again talking about I'm I'm leaning more towards 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:09.119 JP's number. Okay, I'll go find out. Does it really matter? No, 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:10.800 just I'm not gonna talk about in the air, but 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:12.880 I'll call Pete after the show. Does it really matter? Yeah, 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.199 because I want to fight Pete. I wanna be right 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.600 talking about empty stadiums feed I did Thursday night in 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:24.440 Atlanta on Thanksgiving. It was half I mean there was 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:30.240 nobody there. Nobody there and that's usually a rivalry game 0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.200 with a lot of Saints fans there. It was empty. 0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:35.639 No do you know who were the only people were 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.240 there were Saints fans. It was louder when the Saints 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.280 did something positive than when the UH Falcons did something positive. 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:45.760 I'll be honest with you, I think the NFL hasn't 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:47.959 not just the NFL, but I think football has an 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:52.240 attendance problem. Really, I don't know because you say that 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.240 here why because it's a TV game. Now, Well, but 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.760 here's the thing. You watched Buffalo yesterday. There wasn't a 0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:02.680 seat right when you're winning, aside from when you're really winning, 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.720 I'm talking about. So we're like like, like I looked 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:10.200 at the college football play the playoff games, the championship games. 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.840 There are empty seats almost in every one of them. Well, 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:17.160 I think even the same man was packed. It's packed. 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.560 The problem with those is it's last minute and you 0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:23.359 have to get in. Like in Northern California, which is 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:27.360 not a rich you know, uh, a rich college football 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.040 tradition place you have to get the home teams to 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.959 travel on a Friday night with five days notice, six 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.280 days notice. So it's hard, Like I get I'll bet 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.520 you anything, Pete. Next year when they start the Pack 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.119 twelve Championships in Vegas, I bet you that place is 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:44.480 packed because it's easier to get to from California. It's 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.920 easy to get there. It's there's get there. They'll have 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:50.800 an easy way to get there. That's gonna be easy 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.119 for that next year. But now also and like like 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:54.800 if you look at the NFL, I did Thursday nights 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.680 every week obviously, like what did you do last you 0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.560 did the game last week? Yeah, where was that camera? Oh, Chicago, 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:05.440 Chicago packed? Yea, when Cleveland when they were four and 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:13.040 six packed. Now Houston, Houston colts to for for first 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.399 place three quarters, it was like empty seats everywhere kickoff. 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.399 So it's like it's weird. It's weird. The legacy teams 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:25.320 will sell their seats, the newer teams might not. But 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:29.080 you look at last night, the generations of fans built up. Well, 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:34.840 you say that Seattle is packed every week? The rams 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:36.840 last night in l A. Do you see that it 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.960 was packed? Was it packed? Yes? It looked like it 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.080 was packed. Well, the TV shots of the lower part 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.320 look packed. I didn't see the higher part. And I 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.159 bet you there were a bunch of Seattle fans in 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.280 there too. But like, so you're I'm not saying you're wrong, Pete. 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.600 Like there's a handful of markets that like wow, that's 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.679 if you're not winning. Like yeah, Like Arizona is one 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.760 of those markets. When they win, they sell out. Yesterday 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.600 they had they were full of Steeler fans. So my 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.639 buddy went to My buddy who's a Steeler fan, went 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.080 to that game. I talked to him today. He says 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:09.320 eighty of the fans in Arizona were Steeler fans. He says, 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.359 I've never seen anything like it. It was incredible. I 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.359 just you know, and judicial that has to be concerning 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.520 two shod when you look up and you see that 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.640 many empty seats, because you know, as you know, it's 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.159 not just the revenue, it's the it's it's not just 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.639 the ticket, it's it's it's the good sessions, the parking, 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:33.400 all of it. So now it means such a great 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.159 product on TV. Obviously you know that affects it a 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:38.720 little bit. But I think the biggest thing that affects 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:43.160 it is when you don't win, you can't blame the fans. 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.600 I can't blame the fans for not going. I think 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.640 I heard you say on the radio this morning there 0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.320 were no charge of fans because they don't have any. 0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.280 It was it was a bad It was bad. There 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.360 was no juice in the stadium and all yesterday, which 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.280 that's about the third or fourth time you had that 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.640 this year too, by the way. It was. It was 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.480 just but the team doesn't do anything to bring it out. 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:11.280 I mean, when you lose five straight by seventeen plus points, 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.920 and if you look at the average, it's they are 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.480 losing by an average of more than twenty points. They're 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.360 losing by more than twenty points a game for five 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.320 straight games. Who how many people will be there for 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:30.720 the finale? Friends and family? It's Christmas weekend, right, It's 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:36.560 the week after Yeah, a holiday week though. Yeah. I mean, 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.080 the only thing that could save that game is it's 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.680 the last time you get to see a team until next, 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:46.960 you know, summer. So well, I think I think the 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:50.720 fans are so upset right now here that they're ready 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.120 to say we'll see you next summer. I I agree 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.680 with you. I think this is as angry a fan 0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:01.080 base as I've seen since I live there and covered 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.600 that team. It's the worst. And the reason I say 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:08.280 that is the young kids that were young when you 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.320 guys were playing Tony. They're the die hards. Now those 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.840 guys are tired of it. They're tired of it and 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.160 their vocal and they're tired of it. And like my 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.000 boys are huge Jack fans, and they wore me out 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.200 after the game yesterday. I'm like, listen, don't like. I 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.120 don't need to be yelled at by you. It's like, 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.680 get it. Tell them to send into something on Twitter. 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:36.600 In question, we'll get ready. No, no, no, they're yeah, yeah. 0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.080 Well if they want their car pay, if they want 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.920 their car payment made, and they want rent paid, they 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.880 will not do anything like that. Sell boys, let's get 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.480 this one. Remember one year when his daughter called in, 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.959 Remember that Pete a couple of years ago. Boys saw 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.600 the girls can call in. They're very nice, they're kind 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.720 their dad, they love their dads. I want I want 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.920 the mean chip off the old block Passelly boys to 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.400 give us a little question or two, because you know 0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.440 they got an attitude. Is there anything like you. They 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:10.239 have an attitude. Yeah, I don't have. I think I'm 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:17.520 very I'm very kind of. I'm kind, mellow, mellow, even demeanor. 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:24.000 Even on this show. I can promise you you never 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:30.640 get your ever raised. You're just calm and collected. Ever 0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:39.240 get bothered by anything. Pete never bothers you. Unbelievable back 0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.440 in a moment. We'll get to you when we talk defense. 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:47.120 We got back. 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You can enjoy red for pricing on all 0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.520 twenty Pepsi's so hurrying into Gate the day after every 0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.160 Jaguars victory and throw back your favorite twenty pepsi for 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:59.920 just nine cents co Jazz Gate serving up more bellot 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.760 participating worth Florida deepod ships, but it's one per customer. 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:19.600 I don't know what to say, you know, I don't see. 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:23.400 I mean, we got whipped, you know, I mean, simple 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.919 as that. And I don't know, I mean I feel 0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.360 like I ain't doing enough, you know, I didn't you know, 0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.120 making the players to give us a chance, you know, 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.839 and uh, I mean prepare hard, you know, doing everything 0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.440 you're supposed to do, and then we're go out there 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.600 and it's just, you know, there's a transition on the 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.480 football field. It's tough for love because you know, we 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.560 got a lot of pride other plays. Guy, you know, 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.680 I remember I took a big shot today. That that 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.640 one hurt. You know, I'm you know, it feels worse 0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.040 than other ones, you know. I mean, I don't know 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:57.719 what to say. Class Campbell, Jaguars defensive lineman after the 0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:02.800 game yesterday. Jaguars defense ruggled. What they lacked in run defense, 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.680 they made up floor by not being able to stop 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.919 the pass either, and they struggled all day long. Philip Rivers, 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:17.759 who had the highest passerad again his sixteen year career yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, 0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.920 I mean here's the thing, Like, it wasn't like Philip 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.440 Rivers was great. We were just bad. Like a lot 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.840 of that goes like Austin Ekeler catching a wide receiver 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.920 screen and taking it seventy five yards on third and ten. 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.479 And so it's not like I sat there and watched 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.000 Philip Rivers like, oh he was amazing. It's him hitting 0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:41.319 Hunter Henry down the sideline when no one's thirty five 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.200 yards within him. I mean that wasn't like great quarterback play. 0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:48.280 That was just bad defense. I mean that is guys 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.800 not doing their job. That's guys being lost in the 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:54.800 back half through a dime. The hunter headed you for 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:58.399 about thirty five yards that was dropped. I'm not I'm 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:03.440 not saying he played bad. I'm just saying I attribute 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:10.160 that more. I would just I would just say, like 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:17.280 that's like more on bad defense, then you know great 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.560 quarterback play. I mean those are guys, I mean those 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:24.400 are simple plays that we did not defend. Who's responsible 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.839 on that play? Right there? Can you tell it's the linebackers? 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.000 It's either and it was, it's it's a sneak rout. 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.120 It's a naked blue leg right, They're gonna sneak the 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:38.200 hunter Henry out. And literally you have both uh Quincy 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:43.719 Williams and and uh Donald Penny chasing ghosts like there's 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.680 no one over there there at what on that play 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.439 there were three or four Jags in the right side 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.480 of the field with not one charger, not one charger 0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.640 with it from the hash to the sideline on outside 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.759 of the field. Everyone else was on the back side 0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:01.680 and there was no Jaguars on that back side. Ye 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:10.680 look at this, there's where are we going? Mhm? I 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:14.080 mean it was. And I want to be careful here 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:19.520 because I do want I mean, it's so easy just 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.600 to be so critical and and you know, fire this guy, 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:26.920 fire this guy whatever. And I get I've been in 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.400 these situations as a player where it's just miserable and 0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:31.600 it's going the wrong way. I've never been a team 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.719 that's lost by this margin this you know, many games 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.200 in a row, but immitted situation where it's just going 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.839 against you and it feels like you're digging a hole 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.960 and you just can't get out. But when I saw 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:48.279 on tape and the performance of our back half, and 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.520 I'll just stick with the linebackers I've I don't know 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.840 if I've ever seen anything like that in the NFL 0:38:55.160 --> 0:39:02.319 from an assignment standpoint, from just a recognition in doing 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.960 your job. It's like, I mean, what are you doing 0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.360 all week? Well? And again, wasn't that the criticism of 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.239 Quincy Williams earlier this season? That's why I got set down. 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.480 I mean, I mean, listen, let's talk about Quincy Williams. 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.600 I actually think Quincy Williams one day could be a 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.600 like a solid pro, maybe a good He's got the 0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.920 speed in the ability to become a solid pro. The 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:28.200 guy was playing nickel corner last year in Division one 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.520 Double A college football. Like the fact that we think 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:35.400 that like as a five ten, fast linebacker who's not 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.520 afraid to hit, but has never played the position, played 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.960 a different completely position in college, whether you want of 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.520 them calling the nickel or a safety whatever, And then 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.960 we're gonna bring him up and playing and asked him 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:51.040 to start at will linebacker for US. I don't understand that. 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:57.160 He clearly he only played thirty five snaps yesterday because 0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.200 he got benched at halftime because it was so bad 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.160 they I mean, really it was so bad. He was 0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:06.080 he was lost back there. And not only that, and 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.439 then Donald Payne. I mean, he's a guy. He tries hard, 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.080 he works hard, had a good game last week. He 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:12.680 had a good game in the run game last week. 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:17.640 But in the week but he's but he's not He's 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.600 a he's not a big man, like you're your two linebackers, 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.400 like our five ten each eleven, maybe Donald Payne is 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:29.760 and they get overwhelmed, and then you're gonna ask Donald 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:35.160 paying I mean, it's just it's it is. And then 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.640 he come off the bench with Caltro. Who else you 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.400 can applay Pete what I'm saying, there's nothing. There's nothing 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:46.439 I'm gonna go through. I'm gonna go through the PF 0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:50.240 grades don't even I don't even care they're bad. I'm curious. 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:56.279 I want to hear Jones played good. Abrey, Yeah, yeah, 0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.959 I thought a played well. Abrey is a solid player. 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.879 Like Abrey to me is if you can get if 0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.239 you can ask him to do what he did in seventeen, 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.800 which is a rotational player. Like he's a good, solid 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.040 football player, Like he's a guy like you you can 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.720 win with with him on your team. They said Brian 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:15.960 was okay in the pass rush and negative in the 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:20.920 run defense. Yeah, yeah, nothing, Klais and Unique got positive 0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:25.879 grades and pass rush. Would you say yes? I mean yeah, 0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.560 I guess is that a good twist game sack? He 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.920 got a little bit pressure. I don't remember Yawn doing 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:35.000 a lot. He got a couple of hits, but not 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.080 fairnessy on that. You know, Philip gets rid of the 0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.960 ball quick, so it's always tough to get to him. Yeah, 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:44.960 and and the two linebackers got terrible terrible grades. What 0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.040 we're what we're plays is in Yond's grade in the 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:54.919 run uh negative for Jahn and slightly above for Yeah. 0:41:54.960 --> 0:42:01.720 I agree with that. Okay, everybody else dot pay except 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:05.600 for Wilson. Like there's another guy. I think Jared Wilson 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.360 is a solid like if he was your special team's 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.760 guy and was your third safety or maybe your second safety, 0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:14.919 if he had a stud number one safety back there, 0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.839 like Jared Wilson is like a guy shows up, works hard, 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:22.560 like he's a solid guy, like if he has if 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.520 he has it, like Ed read next to him. Yeah, 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:30.520 may be fine. They gave up five yards to the Chargers. 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.920 It's an F. No, No, it's not an F. It's 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:38.920 an F minus. It's terrible. They they set Philip Rivers 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.600 down after three quarters. That never happens in the NFL. 0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.000 Like this is this is a game, like if you 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.200 want to equate it to grades in school, like you 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.800 just took a class and a bunch of classes in 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.399 this semester and it was so bad that the dean 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.440 of the school called you in and said, listen, we're 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.640 gonna have to ask you to leave. We need you 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.279 to withdraw like you. We don't want you a part 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:05.239 of our university any longer. Tody, can I ask you 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.080 a question now? Seriously, this is dead serious question. There's 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.000 gotta be a way to figure out maybe this regime 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.400 has gone so it's not gonna matter. Josh Allen should 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.440 be on the field more than thirty six maps. I 0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.720 would be playing Josh Allen a lot more. I agree 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.440 with you, Pete. I'm not sure what the rotation is 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:24.680 there um if nothing else, just to get him reps 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.600 to get him better for get him ready for next year. 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.799 Like Josh Allen is a big, strong guy. He needs 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.000 to he needs to work on his pass rush. He 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:33.759 needs more reps at the pass for us. He's not 0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:35.920 because he's not natural at it. He uses his his 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.880 athletic ability to strength and everything else. He's a good 0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:42.600 run defender like I would play Josh Allen Moore as well. Okay, 0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:44.400 let me run down the defense real quick. Tell me 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.960 who's starting next year, Avery Jones. No, here's a better question. 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.799 Why don't you go through and tell me in which 0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:55.360 one of these guys are NFL starters in the league. Okay, 0:43:55.840 --> 0:44:00.520 Avery Jones. I think a Abrey is a starting next 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.120 year for this team, and I think he's a rotational 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.640 player on most teams. Like he's he's playing, he's playing. 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:10.319 Tavin Bryant has gotten better this I'll give him credit. 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.160 He has gotten better this year. He is strong, he's explosive. 0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.720 He is not an instinctual player. He should be a backup. 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.440 He should be the you know, he should be your 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:23.040 second three that can make and help Tolais Campbell for 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.399 the right price based on I mean, you can't pay 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.000 him with his number is next year. I don't know 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.880 what Claiss wants to do. But if Clais was playing, 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:34.239 you know, again, your big end, a rotational guy, he's 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.480 your starting end. But he's gonna play, you know, of 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:40.640 sixty five snaps. He's gonna play thirty thirty five. Like 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.359 Clays is still productive. He's you know, he's getting older. 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:45.400 I think when he gets tired. He's on the ground 0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.840 a lot at times, but he is still um. I 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:50.840 think he you know, for the right price, but you 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:58.799 can't pay him, you know, fifteen million bucks. Ye, like, yeah, 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.879 it's a good pass rusher. I still don't think Jan 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.840 has been playing the run great. And I think that 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:06.560 is a question you have to ask yourself when the 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.920 style of defense you're gonna play. Can Yon be your 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:14.799 every down player? What's tell the defense is gonna play? 0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:16.400 I don't know. I don't know who's gonna be here, 0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:21.520 like a Ti n and Allen be standing up both 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.560 on the field at the same time. I think I 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:27.080 think uh Alan can play a defensive end or you 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.120 can play an outside linebacker, you know, in a three 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.200 or four type of style. I mean he's that, he's 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.840 an athletic, he's big. I think Yahn could maybe be 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.800 an outside linebacker to three four. He's a good pass rusher, 0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.360 There's no doubt about that. The guy can rush the passer. 0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:46.279 But being a defensive end on and every down, like, 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.600 you really have to scheme him if you're the defensive coordina, 0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.440 if you're gonna play it for three right Quincy Williams 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:56.759 and Donald Payne, No, I think Trey would be. He 0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.840 is a pro, works his tail off. I think you 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.480 in the perfect world, he's your fourth corner. Jared Wilson. 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.800 We already talked about him. Way to guard. No. No 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.759 a J boy A J. I don't think he's playing 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.680 very well right now. No, he's not. He had a 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.680 bad game yesterday. And DJ Hayden. D J Hayden is 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:20.960 a very good knuckle tough He is a pro. I 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.080 mean he were he you want him on your team. 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.520 I think he's your starting nickel next year. Now. The 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:30.520 rest of these guys, Smooth Spence, Jacobs, Calitro, Gilt Crust, 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:35.399 that's nothing. We just pete. This is I mean, maybe 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.440 like in fairness to everyone, I'm sure people listening to 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:42.200 this and if you know, I'm probably not the most popular, 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.080 you know. Opinion right now, I'm giving and maybe I'm 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.840 too close to it, but I watch a lot of football. 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.000 I watched tape up every team doing the national games, 0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.919 and I'm just telling you this is what I see. 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:59.719 Let's come back. We'll get into the offense. And Pete, 0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.880 I know you've been waiting on draft talk. 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They grow 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:16.799 up so fast. Remember there are plenty of other days 0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:20.280 of the week, and tied is America's number one detergent 0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.480 for all of them. If it's laundry night, it's got 0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:43.799 to be tied. I'm talking about to execution. I guess yeah, 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.759 we was. Yeah. First, I've had a little momentum where 0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:49.760 we're hitting UM and then we kind of got all schedule. 0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:53.480 UM had some tough there downs that we didn't didn't convert, 0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:55.880 and you know it didn't down the field when we 0:50:55.960 --> 0:51:01.080 cut out Gardner mins you the second Jaguars quarterback back 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.120 in the starting lineup yesterday, Jafrew Shadrick, Tony ROSELLI. We'll 0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:06.640 get back with Pete Prisco in just a few minutes. 0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.880 The UM, we've covered the defense, let's touch on the offense. 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.879 The big change yesterday. Of course, Gardner meant you back 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.440 in the lineup. They had a fourteen play drive to 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.279 open the game with a field goal at the end 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:24.279 three nothing Jags, and then it didn't really look great 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.320 after that on offense, well and we talked about it. 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:28.840 This team struggled all year with the red zone production, 0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.800 the thirty one in the NFL right now in converting 0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:36.320 touchdowns once inside the tent. You know, I mean, Gardners 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:41.919 a rookie, and if you judged him based on saying 0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.600 this is like, this is like because he's played so 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.480 much football now for us, Like if you would have said, 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:49.839 if you would have picked Gardner Minshew in the first round, 0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.560 if he was like with the Daniel Jones or the 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:58.480 you know, the Haskins and that group Comrie, and you said, 0:51:58.600 --> 0:51:59.839 we took this guy at the end of the fir 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.120 let's say, early second or whatever, and you were getting 0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.520 this type production where he won four games for you. 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.239 You know, he's been Rookie of the Month, Rookie of 0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:11.799 the Week several times. You'd be like, hey, we got 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:16.560 a guy who's progressing, and like we have a chance 0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:19.839 with our this quarterback. And so you have to try 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:23.120 to keep that in mind. And I think overall, I 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.279 don't think Gardner miss you have a great game last 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.680 yesterday watching the film, I think he missed some stuff. Um. 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:30.480 I think he's a little bit quick in the pocket 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:33.320 at times, but he's a rookie. Now, I think Gardner 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:35.800 Mitshow is gonna get better. I think Gardner Mitshow is 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:38.399 really smart. I think he'll learn to see things better 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:43.680 because he's a smart football player and and that's the 0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.840 typical progression. He's a you know, a good athlete. He 0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:49.040 has movement skills. Like my only question of Gardner minsho 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:51.879 is his arm strong enough to make all the throws 0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:55.360 in the NFL? And especially when you're like you're under pressure, 0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.320 can he you know, make the off balance throws that 0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:00.160 are down the field? Can he drive it on the 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.319 field because one thing we didn't see yesterday wouldn't drive 0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:04.719 anything down the field. Now, I'm not saying that's because 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:08.120 of Gardner Minshew. Maybe it wasn't called. But that's the 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:10.399 only question with Gardner Minshew. But overall, if you look 0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:13.000 at it as a rookie like Gardner minshew' hav in 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:17.960 a fine year, he's not the problem. Pe Priss go 0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:20.440 back with us now down in South Florida. But Tony 0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.839 there too. He's too quick to get out of the pocket. Pete, 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:25.759 I just said the same thing. My point was this though, 0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:28.799 and I don't think you're on the line yet. If 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.560 you would have drafted Gardner Mintshew in the first round, 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:34.000 so let's say he was part of the Haskins and 0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:36.399 and so you have like when you draft the guy 0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:38.440 in the first round or even early second, like you 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:41.040 feel better about him at the start because like you're saying, 0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.760 this is our guy, and so he has a longer rope, 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:46.520 and what you see you always believe the best in. 0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:50.040 That's human nature. Because you picked as your guy like 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.279 his year this year, you'd be like, hey, it's a 0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.799 good solid year for a rookie. He's been offensive player 0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:58.840 of the month, offensive player of the week several times, 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:04.239 won four game games. Like he's progressing, like like you, 0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:06.360 but like, but he's a rookie. So you'd be like, 0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:08.439 all right, we have a chance with this guy because 0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:11.640 he's gonna grow and progress. And I think Gardner smart, 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.160 and I think he has a chance. And I do 0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:14.840 think he leaves a pocket a little bit early right now. 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:16.200 I don't think he sees it all the time. But 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:20.000 what rookie does, Pete, they don't. You're right, And so 0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:21.920 the only question Garter mit you, in my mind, is 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.719 his arm strong enough? And can you get a little 0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:29.040 bit stronger? Drew brees On got stronger as he got older. 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:32.480 That was a question about Drew brees when he came 0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.680 at up for two. Was his arm strong enough? But 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:41.960 there were things yesterday that made me start to question 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.320 whether he could be the long term guy. And what 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:48.760 was that, Pete Well, more of the pocket, dilly dally 0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:51.719 and spinning around when there was pressure. I'm gonna I'm 0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:53.319 gonna press you on this and this is why. Because 0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:56.000 there was a guy two years ago that was picked 0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.200 that you thought was the best quarterback in the draft 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:03.399 named Josh A one correct and after his rookie year 0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:07.360 a lot of people said he can't do it. And 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:10.919 early this year people were questioning can he be the guy? 0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:13.480 And the reason they questioned it because it does he 0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:15.799 see it and he gets out of the pocket way 0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:21.839 too fast when he doesn't. What's the difference, Pete, Well, 0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:24.360 he's a good runner for one, But I agree with you. 0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.200 But men, she's a pretty good runner. Okay. But here's 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:30.040 the reason. Josh Allen did it in Buffalo in large 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.080 party because he was a rookie, but be because his 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:35.040 line was terrible. This was I don't know if you 0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.799 want well, it's not playing very well. Right now, very 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:40.520 good right now. But but okay, I'm gonna ask you this, 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.720 because you're the defender of all lines. Is this line 0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:49.640 bad right now? Um? It's not good. It's not playing 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:53.440 good now across the board. Yeah, I mean, I mean 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:54.839 they're not I mean, I don't think it's a bad 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:57.719 I'd say it's an average offensive line. Right now. You 0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.680 might be kind Okay, maybe i'm I'm I'm probably being 0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:03.200 nicer than I need to be, But I'll say average. 0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.600 You're always nicer to like the only reason Josh Allen 0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:09.080 got more like you felt like that about Josh Allen 0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:11.440 there's two reasons. One is he was a first rounder 0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:13.720 and you loved him coming out. You didn't love Gardner Minshew. 0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:16.960 And two he has a rocket arm. I give him that. 0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.680 And he's big. He's big. 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Yesterday, 1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:50.480 after the Jags lost to the Chargers forty five ten, 1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:54.160 the final second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour underway, j 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:57.520 P Shadrick Tony was silly, Pete Priscoe, glad you're along 1:00:57.560 --> 1:01:01.760 with us. Put it to get to of course, today 1:01:03.040 --> 1:01:06.439 we've covered the defense. And by the way, I heard 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:09.360 that one ad where you can win a spot on 1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:14.480 the team plane to go to Atlanta. Yes, they might 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:17.040 suit one of those guys up if they actually can 1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:26.640 tackle at the cheap shot, at the low blow. It's funny, 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:31.000 though I'm not laughing right, are we laughing? No, I'm crying. 1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:36.160 I'm crying. We've touched on the offense a little bit, 1:01:36.880 --> 1:01:39.760 not a lot today, but it's mainly the defensive we 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:41.960 talked about. We've talked about the line a little bit, 1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:43.880 talked about Gardner Minshew. I mean, do you disagree with 1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:48.880 my my point about Gardner minshewn? Menh's been fine. It 1:01:49.040 --> 1:01:52.080 just I still have my reservations about and you said 1:01:52.120 --> 1:01:55.520 it this morning on the show. Should they draft a quarterback? 1:01:55.720 --> 1:01:58.520 I mean that's gonna be an issue. Well in and 1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:01.280 just so for those who don't listen to the award 1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:06.320 winning Breakfast of Basel. It's won many awards throughout the 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:08.760 throughout the country. What kind of awards, well, the many, 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:14.880 just the many, many many of them. Um Is, you 1:02:14.960 --> 1:02:18.560 don't buy that. Go ahead, You didn't win any awards, 1:02:18.600 --> 1:02:21.080 but go ahead. Oh maybe maybe that was just my 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:24.640 daughter and give me one. No, not Angie, she's not 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:29.840 a fan. Um Is. I said that. They were talking 1:02:29.880 --> 1:02:32.120 about like who do you draft? So you have two 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:34.120 draft picks and I said, it depends on where are 1:02:34.120 --> 1:02:35.920 you draft? And they said, would you draft a quarterback? 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:39.200 And I said, well, you're gonna absolutely do your homework 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:42.680 and if you're like if you if you were drafted 1:02:42.760 --> 1:02:46.600 number two and you do your homework. In the Bengals 1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:48.960 passed on Joe Burrows. I'm just using his name. I've 1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:51.720 only watched two games, but he's the number one guy 1:02:51.840 --> 1:02:54.800 right now and everyone's board and you have him rated 1:02:54.880 --> 1:02:59.280 as a franchise quarterback who's a starter, all pro level 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:02.200 guy who can take you to the super Bowl. Heck yeah, 1:03:02.200 --> 1:03:05.520 I'm taking them because I'm not convinced that I have 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:11.320 that right now. You probably don't, and so but I 1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:14.120 don't know if there's that guy. But I'm also understood. 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:17.800 I've said it multiple times. Pete and I've talked about this, 1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:20.400 like you have to have in the NFL. You have 1:03:20.600 --> 1:03:24.840 to have the guy who's, you know, calling the signals 1:03:24.880 --> 1:03:28.040 and pulling the trigger. He doesn't have to be top five, 1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:30.160 but he has to be in the upper half of 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:33.680 the NFL that can win the game when it when 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:36.560 you need him to. I'm talking about the quarterback. After that, 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:40.440 you need big people and I and it starts with 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:44.400 your defense and offensive lines. After that, you need to 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:47.760 corner will be the next highest and where you look 1:03:47.800 --> 1:03:51.520 at this team right now, you need some linebackers. But 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:54.560 you gotta start with the big people. You gotta solidify 1:03:54.720 --> 1:03:58.439 the offensive defensive lines. And I'm only adding linebackers in there. 1:03:58.640 --> 1:04:00.280 I'm not saying I'd use the first you know, the 1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:03.080 first first rounder on him unless you know, unless you 1:04:03.120 --> 1:04:06.720 think it's gonna be Ray Lewis. But he was a 1:04:06.800 --> 1:04:12.120 late first rounder. But you need guys in the linebacker 1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:15.400 position right now because you don't have anyone. You do 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:19.280 not have a high end linebacker. Now, maybe Myles can 1:04:19.320 --> 1:04:21.680 come back from injury. Maybe this is the year was 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:24.959 an aberration. He's had a bad year. Who knows, maybe 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:27.360 if you move the Will, he's better. I don't know 1:04:27.440 --> 1:04:30.360 any of that. You never played will. I I agree 1:04:30.360 --> 1:04:32.960 with you. I'm just making out, putting out scenarios out there. 1:04:33.040 --> 1:04:36.440 But regardless, you need linebackers on this team. But you 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:38.840 watch you watch the forty Niners, right and then they 1:04:38.920 --> 1:04:42.640 granted they didn't have a good defensive game Sunday, but 1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:47.080 their linebackers Warner you can fly and they found him 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:50.400 from b y U and the kid. They remember Quaxander. 1:04:50.480 --> 1:04:52.800 They paid but he got hurt and they're playing Dak 1:04:52.880 --> 1:04:56.800 Greenlaw and linebacker. He's a blown up safety and they 1:04:56.920 --> 1:04:58.920 run to the football, and they get to the football. 1:04:59.240 --> 1:05:01.960 Then you look around. Like other teams they find linebackers 1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:04.600 in the third, fourth, and fifth round. That's where you 1:05:04.680 --> 1:05:06.880 find those guys. I'm not yeah, I'm not saying. I'm 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:08.240 not saying I would pick one of those in the 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:09.840 first I'm just saying in the draft, you need to 1:05:09.880 --> 1:05:13.160 address linebacker this year less you have a special guy, 1:05:13.240 --> 1:05:15.880 unless you see a special guy like like the Bucks drafted. Okay, 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:18.640 I'm gon ask you this, Devon White, Devon White, would 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:20.400 you have taken him? And that I wouldn't have I 1:05:20.440 --> 1:05:23.160 don't think the value is there in the top ten though, 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:26.080 pretty good against the Jags last week. No, he's a 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:29.200 very good player. A touchdown and a fumble recovery. He's 1:05:29.200 --> 1:05:31.920 a great player. I'm not saying that, but they mistaken 1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:34.640 they passed on No. Yeah, they passed on Josh Allen 1:05:34.680 --> 1:05:38.480 and take him. I don't know where would they picked 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:40.800 me for us or after us? I don't remember before him, 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:43.160 and I think they passed on him. You don't pass 1:05:43.240 --> 1:05:45.280 on a pass rusher to take a lineback. I wouldn't. 1:05:45.760 --> 1:05:48.160 I wouldn't, But I'm with you, Tony I'm an agreement 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:50.320 with you. We've had guys that we have guys at 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:52.440 our place that do mock drafts every week, and they 1:05:52.480 --> 1:05:54.600 put a receiver in there one day and I told him, 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:58.040 I said, no, no, no, no, big and big yeah. 1:05:59.520 --> 1:06:02.880 And or if you find a corner, if you if 1:06:02.920 --> 1:06:05.200 you see a guy that's a shut down corner. And 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:09.320 let's say you're picking um four or five or six 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:12.080 wherever we end up picking, and the highest rated player 1:06:12.280 --> 1:06:14.120 and he's higher than any of the big people is 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:18.880 a shutdown corner. Okay, I'm fine with that. But need 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:21.880 but you need big people on this team, and you 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:29.120 need big Your defensive line is there's no depth in 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:32.520 You're You're still you're. Here's the thing. Your best defensive 1:06:32.560 --> 1:06:34.320 lignment is still a clay As Campbell and he's aging 1:06:36.400 --> 1:06:39.400 and so you have you know this, Tonty. Aside from 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:42.560 just big people, big people, the franchise is the way 1:06:42.640 --> 1:06:46.400 the game is played. Now are built quarterback. Guy who 1:06:46.440 --> 1:06:49.360 knocks the quarterback down, guy who protects the quarterback, the 1:06:49.360 --> 1:06:52.320 guy who knocks the quarterbacks passes down. And now it's 1:06:52.360 --> 1:06:53.960 a five pronged approach because you gotta have a big 1:06:53.960 --> 1:06:56.120 play receiver. So if you look at Jaguars, do they 1:06:56.120 --> 1:07:00.560 have a quarterback position solved? No, they have the left 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:05.200 tackle position solved? Mm hmm. No, do they have the 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:11.760 pass rushing position solved? Maybe? Do they have the corner 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:17.160 position solved? Do they have the bigg play receiver position solved? 1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:22.160 That one I give him with the chart. Yeah, and 1:07:22.200 --> 1:07:30.320 he's going out of those five spots. One is chart yes. Two, 1:07:30.640 --> 1:07:32.520 if Josh Allen is what you think he is and 1:07:32.560 --> 1:07:34.840 then god Way comes back, then yes. But other than 1:07:34.880 --> 1:07:39.480 that the other three no, absolute nos. Yeah, I mean, 1:07:39.640 --> 1:07:41.080 and it's not just I mean, let's I want to 1:07:41.120 --> 1:07:44.080 make sure to me, it is not just the pass 1:07:44.160 --> 1:07:46.520 rusher on the defensive line. You have to be able 1:07:46.560 --> 1:07:49.520 to stop the run. I have to. You have to 1:07:49.640 --> 1:07:52.080 in this league. And I will argue to the end 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:54.680 of time. I know it's a passing league, but you 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:58.240 have to run the ball in this league. You go 1:07:58.400 --> 1:07:59.960 look at the the go look at the teams. You're 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:04.120 good this year. The Ravens they run the ball, not 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:06.320 just with Lamar Jackson, Yes, he's a big part of it. 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:09.320 They have a good offensive line and they have good backs. 1:08:10.160 --> 1:08:13.840 The San Francisco forty Niners. They run the ball. Kyle 1:08:13.960 --> 1:08:17.960 Shanahan his whole offense and all the geniusness that everyone 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:20.479 says how greaty he was. It was no different when 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:23.680 they had Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and Snow. That 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:27.599 team was built on running the ball inside outside zone. 1:08:27.680 --> 1:08:30.040 That's what they did. They ran it with Tevin Coleman 1:08:30.160 --> 1:08:34.320 and Freeman. If you go look at the uh uh. 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:37.040 If you go look at the Saints, the Saints and 1:08:37.120 --> 1:08:40.920 Sean Payton, they run the ball. So the common thing 1:08:40.960 --> 1:08:42.600 of those teams so it is that they have the 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:45.320 threat and the ability to throw it too. I'm not 1:08:45.400 --> 1:08:48.639 saying you can't just be a one dimensional team. That's 1:08:48.720 --> 1:08:52.200 what this team was. Jp you're not listening. I started 1:08:52.240 --> 1:08:55.000 this whole conversation. You have to have a quarterback, Yes, 1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:57.760 I agree with that, bait Blake Bortles couldn't throw the ball, 1:08:58.000 --> 1:09:02.679 so there was no threat, right, So so that's a given. 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:04.200 But you have to be able to run the ball 1:09:04.240 --> 1:09:06.080 and you have to stop the run. You have to 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:08.360 because you can't get the passing situations if you don't 1:09:08.360 --> 1:09:13.439 stop the run. So the pass ruser is useless if 1:09:13.479 --> 1:09:15.960 you can't stop the run. And Tony. But one one 1:09:16.040 --> 1:09:19.320 thing that's you see two is a lot of times 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:22.840 you'll find a guy and hit on him as a 1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:25.160 run stopper. We've seen that play out over the course 1:09:25.200 --> 1:09:26.479 of this you know what I mean, Like a guy 1:09:26.520 --> 1:09:29.759 who didn't quite work out bulks up and he becomes 1:09:29.800 --> 1:09:31.719 a run stopper. I'm gonna give you a perfect example. 1:09:33.160 --> 1:09:37.040 Mike Purcell, who's playing in Denver right now. Scrappet pick up, 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:40.160 bulked up. Now he's one of the better run stuffers 1:09:40.200 --> 1:09:43.120 in the league. You remember guys back in the day 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:44.400 that used to do that. We used to see what 1:09:45.960 --> 1:09:49.320 the guy from Buffalo that did that, bulked up to 1:09:49.360 --> 1:09:53.759 about three Pat william Not Pat Williams, but Williams. Remember 1:09:53.800 --> 1:09:55.360 those guys they did They find him in like the 1:09:55.400 --> 1:09:57.960 fifth or sixth round, they fail at someplace, bulk up 1:09:58.040 --> 1:10:01.200 and become a big time run stopper. The Jaguars don't 1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:04.479 have a big time run stuff like that. And here's 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:06.280 the thing. If you're gonna run the ball, you have 1:10:06.360 --> 1:10:08.720 to decide what kind of running team you want to be. 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:12.400 Like we've been saying this, like Leonard four Nett is 1:10:12.479 --> 1:10:17.360 a good downhill gap scheme runner, he's not an outside 1:10:17.479 --> 1:10:20.639 zone inside zone guy. He's for sure on outside zone. 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:23.920 And so like he's effective, like he's having a good year. 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:26.320 He's a good player. But you have to build your 1:10:26.400 --> 1:10:28.880 offense based on your personnel, and so if you're gonna 1:10:28.920 --> 1:10:30.840 have him, you better have a big, physical offensive line. 1:10:30.880 --> 1:10:32.560 You better have a blocking tight end, you better have 1:10:32.640 --> 1:10:35.000 a fullback. We have no blocking tight end. We have 1:10:35.080 --> 1:10:40.200 no fullback. Have you done Denver at all this year 1:10:40.680 --> 1:10:43.200 other than the game you guys did, Yes, I did 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:47.240 him against uh Kansas City? All right, David a linebacker 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:54.120 name Advander Johnson's yea free agent? Well, the merch is 1:10:54.120 --> 1:10:56.639 a pretty good player. Yeah, But Pete, there's history there 1:10:56.680 --> 1:10:59.479 why he was a free agent. I know. But he's 1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:01.880 a good player. I'm just saying, but there's risk there. 1:11:01.920 --> 1:11:04.519 I'm not saying he's I'm just saying there's there's more 1:11:04.680 --> 1:11:06.400 and I don't want to get into exactly, but there's 1:11:06.400 --> 1:11:09.479 a backstory there that there's some risk with it. But 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:12.479 Tamorrio Davis perfect example, third round pick of the Jets. 1:11:12.520 --> 1:11:18.160 They trade, He's fantastic for the great I'm not Pete. 1:11:18.200 --> 1:11:21.519 I never said draft a linebacker in the first round. No, 1:11:21.760 --> 1:11:25.080 I'm just saying you have to address Yes, you have 1:11:25.160 --> 1:11:29.200 to address it. But this game, this game, at the 1:11:29.400 --> 1:11:32.320 end of the day, at the end of time, the 1:11:32.439 --> 1:11:35.320 teams who can run the ball and stop the run 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:40.200 win as long as you have a quarterback like go 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:42.840 tell me the go tell me the great receivers that 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:49.240 the forty Niners have, Emmanuel Sanders is coming from Achilles Tendon. 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:54.519 Have guys, they have good guys. They're solid, good players. 1:11:55.200 --> 1:11:58.360 Deebo Samuels is emerging as a pretty good player. No, pete, 1:11:58.400 --> 1:12:01.200 I'm not saying they're they're good, but they're not. They're 1:12:01.240 --> 1:12:05.800 not Julio Jones, Odell Beckham and DeAndre Hopkins and a J. Green. 1:12:06.680 --> 1:12:09.960 They're just good players. But they can protect the quarterback, 1:12:10.000 --> 1:12:11.759 they can run the ball, and they have a quarterback 1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:16.280 who can operate in win games. Well, the latest Monck draft, 1:12:16.320 --> 1:12:18.080 one of the latest mock drafts I see, has the 1:12:18.160 --> 1:12:22.840 Jaguars taken Isaiah Simmons from Clemson, who's a linebacker. I 1:12:23.160 --> 1:12:24.960 can't see that happening. And that, first of all, these 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:27.960 these mock drafts are stupid. Right now will change fifteen times. 1:12:28.040 --> 1:12:30.200 Some of these guys in the first ten picks won't 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:32.960 even get drafted the fourth round and then they had 1:12:33.280 --> 1:12:35.320 and then the second first round. Think about this, Toney, 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:37.479 how much would you go they have them taken? Well, 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:39.320 they have a cornerback and then you know the kid 1:12:39.400 --> 1:12:44.960 from Alabama digs JP. Yeah, but do you disagree? I 1:12:45.000 --> 1:12:47.439 mean that's the formula. Like you look, you gotta build, 1:12:47.479 --> 1:12:49.439 you gotta get big people. You have to like I 1:12:49.520 --> 1:12:52.439 love like the Saints. Everyone talks about the Saints. You know, 1:12:52.560 --> 1:12:54.920 the Saints had the high who was either highest or 1:12:54.960 --> 1:12:58.519 second highest run percentage in the NFL last year With 1:12:58.680 --> 1:13:05.400 Drew Brees and Michael Thomas and all the weapons, they 1:13:05.560 --> 1:13:09.040 ran the ball. Sean Payton one of the smartest coaches 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:12.560 in the NFL, one of the best play callers. He understands, 1:13:12.880 --> 1:13:16.160 you better be able to run the ball, better control 1:13:16.240 --> 1:13:20.160 the ball when you need to run the ball. That's it. 1:13:20.479 --> 1:13:22.720 You don't have to run the ball just to run 1:13:22.800 --> 1:13:26.280 the ball. No, no, But sometimes people say, oh, you 1:13:26.320 --> 1:13:28.439 gotta run up. You have to run the ball when 1:13:28.520 --> 1:13:32.600 you need to run the ball. Let's come back in 1:13:32.680 --> 1:13:36.840 a moment, shall he Social media questions, Yeah, and I 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:38.519 want to say one more thing about what Pete just said. 1:13:39.080 --> 1:13:40.920 The Rams made a change on the right side of 1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:44.040 their offensive line. They were actually the whole line besides Whitworth. 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:47.160 They were struggling. The reason they weren't scoring points is 1:13:47.240 --> 1:13:49.240 why Pete. They couldn't run the ball at all, and 1:13:49.280 --> 1:13:52.240 it's affected the entire passing game. They're now running the 1:13:52.240 --> 1:13:54.760 ball of Girley, they're blocking people, they're protecting it takes, 1:13:54.800 --> 1:13:56.800 it slows down a pass rush, and now they're throwing 1:13:56.840 --> 1:14:00.599 the ball and scoring points. It's not that hard, simple game. 1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:04.439 Simple game. 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Uh, 1:17:47.680 --> 1:17:50.000 you gotta restart from start and come back with a 1:17:50.200 --> 1:17:54.000 positive energy and a positive mentality, you know. And it's hard, 1:17:54.520 --> 1:17:56.800 you know, especially having the same results that we are 1:17:57.000 --> 1:18:00.439 that we have Leonard for that. After the game yesterday 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:04.360 the Jags lost to the Chargers, j P Shadrick, Tony 1:18:04.439 --> 1:18:07.840 was Selly, Pete Priscoe Jaguars Happy Hour continues. It's not 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:10.840 very happy right now. We might need to change the 1:18:10.920 --> 1:18:16.000 name of the show. Somebody suggested Jaguar's Sad Hour. That's 1:18:16.040 --> 1:18:18.760 really creative. Thanks be. Drinks might be served at some 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:21.120 happy hour down the I didn't. I didn't suggest that. 1:18:21.160 --> 1:18:25.719 I'm telling you what somebody on Twitter suggests. Let's speaking 1:18:25.760 --> 1:18:27.719 of people. We're gonna go to Twitter and one second, 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:30.320 thirty seconds to make one last point. Just can't wait 1:18:30.360 --> 1:18:32.280 to hammer the point I was trying to make before 1:18:33.160 --> 1:18:35.160 because JP brought up the point and he's not wrong 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:36.679 that you have to be able to throw the ball 1:18:37.000 --> 1:18:38.760 to threaten, to be able to have the threat of 1:18:38.800 --> 1:18:43.240 the throw that run the ball. I agree with the 1:18:43.280 --> 1:18:45.960 most part, and I'll give it a perfect example. Everyone 1:18:46.040 --> 1:18:48.920 says you need receivers, you need the quarterback, and all 1:18:49.000 --> 1:18:52.200 the all these pretty toys. I like pretty toys, I do, 1:18:52.439 --> 1:18:56.000 and I think the quarterback is the one again position 1:18:56.000 --> 1:18:59.040 you have to have solidified. The Atlanta Falcons are one 1:18:59.080 --> 1:19:02.000 of the worst teams in the see they have Julio Jones, 1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:04.880 top ten pick when the highest paid receivers, they's not 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:07.439 the highest paid receiver in football. They have Calvin Ridley, 1:19:08.439 --> 1:19:14.120 first round pick. They have uh Hooper Deondi Freeman running back. 1:19:14.360 --> 1:19:17.920 They have Matt Ryan, one of the highest paid players 1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:20.680 in his positions. They have Hooper at tight end. And 1:19:20.840 --> 1:19:25.240 they can't move the ball, they can't run it, they 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:29.320 can't block, and they can't win because they can't win 1:19:29.439 --> 1:19:32.439 in the trenches. Well, they moved to yesterday and they 1:19:32.560 --> 1:19:37.439 won yesterday. And because they drafted at lynch room kid 1:19:37.840 --> 1:19:42.840 and he's finally playing right and McGary's getting better, but 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:45.120 rookies playing on the right side. I agree with you. 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:48.200 I agree with you, Pete. I watched McGary and they 1:19:48.240 --> 1:19:51.080 play it good. Carolina not good right now Carolina. And 1:19:51.160 --> 1:19:54.400 by the way, Carolina can't stop anybody. They're terrible. They 1:19:54.400 --> 1:19:59.000 can't stop anybody. What is the Falcon's record? Not good? 1:19:59.080 --> 1:20:03.880 Coach for four and nine, So four nine with all 1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:09.600 the investment in the skill positions, but they invested in 1:20:09.680 --> 1:20:14.120 the line last year. It's not just investing, it's investing 1:20:14.200 --> 1:20:18.360 the right guys. Right, But it's tough when you lose 1:20:18.439 --> 1:20:20.040 the guy you drafted in the first round and then 1:20:20.080 --> 1:20:22.040 you lose them. That's hard. Oh, I'm not saying I'm 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:24.280 not I'm not being critical. I'm just my point is 1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:26.400 I'm not saying they're not trying to do it, but 1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:29.200 where they've invested their draft picks in their collateral lately 1:20:29.320 --> 1:20:34.160 until last year? Correct, Well, Jake Matthews was the first 1:20:34.240 --> 1:20:37.000 round there, I'm fine, and Lynds some helps him. If 1:20:37.040 --> 1:20:39.000 they get the offensive line figured out, they have some. 1:20:39.160 --> 1:20:41.519 They're very little on defense as well, Pete. You know that. 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:44.960 Then a little defense, a little defensive line that can't stop, 1:20:45.000 --> 1:20:48.680 they can't hold up. And my whole point, I'm not 1:20:48.720 --> 1:20:51.280 being overly critical of the Falcons or anything else. I'm 1:20:51.280 --> 1:20:53.000 just trying to make the point where everyone starts talking 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:56.400 about all these skill guys, and I want good skill guys, 1:20:56.640 --> 1:20:58.200 but if you want big people, you can't win this 1:20:58.439 --> 1:21:01.080 You cannot win in this league. It's improven year in 1:21:01.200 --> 1:21:05.679 and year out. The fact, look at look at Baltimore's line. 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:08.799 Stanley and Brown are good at tackles. You know, Yonda 1:21:08.880 --> 1:21:12.840 is good. Boseman's playing well at left guard as a 1:21:12.960 --> 1:21:15.240 as a kid out of Alabama, and then they got 1:21:15.280 --> 1:21:17.680 a second backup centers playing. Now go look at those 1:21:17.680 --> 1:21:20.920 big defensive lignement in the interior. It's hard to run 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:27.280 against them, right, Pearson Williams, all right, you done, I'm done. Okay, 1:21:27.360 --> 1:21:30.360 let's get my rant is over. But that's what has 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:32.519 to be, That's what has to happen in my opinion. 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:35.479 Let's get to social media questions, and we've got some 1:21:35.640 --> 1:21:38.600 good ones again today. Of course at John big g A, 1:21:38.920 --> 1:21:43.599 is Tony Boselli going to coach o line? Can Prisco 1:21:44.120 --> 1:21:47.320 take an advisory role in the front office Jaguars? We 1:21:47.439 --> 1:21:50.080 need some milk. I don't know if that means, but no, 1:21:50.200 --> 1:21:53.040 I will not be coaching the offensive line, and no, 1:21:53.160 --> 1:21:56.240 Pete will not be an advisory war role role as well. 1:21:57.000 --> 1:21:59.160 I don't know, but I think I've been offered that job. 1:22:00.040 --> 1:22:03.840 No one. No one's offered No one's offered you that job. 1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:09.519 You'd be surprised. I know for a fact, if Tom 1:22:09.600 --> 1:22:14.160 Conflan the role he is in, he is not inviting 1:22:14.200 --> 1:22:17.679 Pete risco in. He's not making that decision. I'm taking 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:20.800 his job. So you've talked to Shot, I've talked to 1:22:21.200 --> 1:22:24.800 I'm taking over for Tom in case anybody's wondering, my god, No, 1:22:25.080 --> 1:22:27.720 I will not be drafting for running back fourth overall. Ever, 1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:30.720 I guess I gotta get my reds may warmed up 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:32.479 to go look for someone because I can't be around 1:22:32.520 --> 1:22:36.680 Pete that much, one time a week already. It's a lot. 1:22:37.520 --> 1:22:40.280 Apparently we need some milk as a meme. I'm told 1:22:40.520 --> 1:22:43.720 I don't know what that means. Let's move on at 1:22:43.760 --> 1:22:45.960 Samuel of Duval. I don't know who would make the 1:22:46.040 --> 1:22:48.920 worst GM between Priscoe and a silly. Priscoe's team would 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:51.040 consist of an undrafted running back in a statue of 1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:53.759 a quarterback, while but Silly would feel a team consisting 1:22:53.800 --> 1:22:56.679 of first round lineman the likes of Luke Jokol Insane Beatles. 1:22:57.200 --> 1:22:59.560 That's not really a question, that's a statement. So you 1:22:59.640 --> 1:23:02.519 basically and also saying Beatles wasn't the first round, there's 1:23:02.560 --> 1:23:04.640 a bad free agent. First of all, this is I 1:23:04.680 --> 1:23:06.280 think the point where I was Tony would draft him 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:09.599 in the first round. No, I wouldn't. That's stupid. Why 1:23:09.640 --> 1:23:11.559 would you put that up there. That's not a question. 1:23:12.120 --> 1:23:14.320 That's a cheap shot, that makes no sense, and it's 1:23:14.360 --> 1:23:17.479 not accurate. Priscost part is probably No. I don't think 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:20.320 people wants a statue of a quarterback. No, I don't. 1:23:20.439 --> 1:23:22.360 I want a guy who can move. But I would 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:25.200 I take uh, I take my homes he can move. Yeah, 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:28.240 I mean that's a dumb that's dumb. I would I 1:23:28.280 --> 1:23:30.920 would have an undrafted not an undrafted, but my running 1:23:30.920 --> 1:23:34.559 back would come in the third round, third round. Yeah, 1:23:35.760 --> 1:23:38.080 I'm not drafted. I certainly wouldn't draft him in the 1:23:38.160 --> 1:23:40.120 first round. Look at look at the look at the guy. 1:23:40.200 --> 1:23:41.800 Look at the guys who got paid and drafted the 1:23:41.880 --> 1:23:47.760 first round. David Jobson, Zeke Kellyottz. David Johnson wasn't the 1:23:47.760 --> 1:23:50.240 first rounder. I don't think Pete No, but he got paid. 1:23:50.280 --> 1:23:52.800 That's what I'm saying. He was in the first round though. No, 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:54.920 but I'm saying the guy who got drafted the first 1:23:55.000 --> 1:23:57.160 round and or got paid. That's not what you said, 1:23:57.200 --> 1:24:01.240 But that's fine. That's what I said. Let's spoop. Heasre 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:04.679 at Kelsey Joe an eight eight Tony in your opinion, 1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:07.680 if you were shot, con would you clean house now? 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:11.040 Not asking what you think will happen, asking what you 1:24:11.280 --> 1:24:14.560 personally think should happen, Like right, now, No, I would not. 1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:16.800 I see no purpose of making a change with three 1:24:16.840 --> 1:24:18.960 weeks in the season left other than getting a jump 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:23.280 start start on the process you're gonna But Pete, you're 1:24:23.280 --> 1:24:25.680 gonna plenty of time as soon as the season's over 1:24:25.840 --> 1:24:28.160 to get a jump shot, jump start on the process. 1:24:28.200 --> 1:24:30.160 And there's rules of who you can interview anyways when 1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:34.120 teams are interview but you can get going on it. Okay, 1:24:34.439 --> 1:24:37.240 everybody's going on in anyways, is what you're saying. Yeah, 1:24:37.280 --> 1:24:40.640 it's like, just because you haven't made changes doesn't mean 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:43.840 you can't start preparing for what you're gonna do. Here's 1:24:43.880 --> 1:24:46.200 a question I have and I'm not a Twitter guy, 1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:49.160 but I'm gonna ask Tony this would Ron Rivera be 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:53.519 on your radar? Sure? Absolutely, two time Coach of the Year, 1:24:53.680 --> 1:24:57.320 took a team to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I think 1:24:57.400 --> 1:24:59.439 Ron would be a great higher for whoever gets him. 1:24:59.520 --> 1:25:02.800 I definitely one question would be, who's your coordinator? I 1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:06.840 definitely want to interview him. Who's your offensive coordinator? Sure? 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:09.080 I mean, by the way, that's a question i'd ask 1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:12.000 any but but but that isn't that an important one 1:25:12.080 --> 1:25:17.960 for a defensive coach? I personally think That's an important 1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:20.720 question for any head coach you're interviewing, is who are 1:25:20.720 --> 1:25:23.200 your coordinators? Because those are key roles in the organization. 1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:27.640 But a defensive minded coach, you want to know who 1:25:27.720 --> 1:25:29.400 the offensive coaches because you want to see what kind 1:25:29.400 --> 1:25:32.880 of style he's gonna play, sure, and what are you 1:25:32.920 --> 1:25:35.439 gonna do at quarterback and other physicians and all that. 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:39.840 Are you gonna play offense? It's kind of important lest 1:25:39.880 --> 1:25:42.719 I checked, No less important if you hire an offensive coaches, 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:46.080 who's your defensive defense? So, Tony, you don't think the 1:25:46.160 --> 1:25:49.000 Redskins and the Panthers right now have a little edge 1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:55.439 on the Jaguars, don't. Okay? Next question at no toes down. 1:25:55.479 --> 1:25:58.200 Are there any position groups we can be optimistic about 1:25:58.280 --> 1:26:00.760 going into the offseason. The only when I see is 1:26:00.840 --> 1:26:03.639 defensive end, and that's only if we keep in Gockway. 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:07.479 I think. I think DJ Chark has been a bright spot. 1:26:07.680 --> 1:26:11.160 That's one receiver, but group group, it's one receiver. To 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:22.080 um Okay, I mean no defensive ends? Did if in 1:26:22.120 --> 1:26:27.560 Gockways on the team. So let's if a Gockways on 1:26:27.640 --> 1:26:33.240 the team, not on the team, there's no position Okay, 1:26:33.760 --> 1:26:40.639 I don't know if I agree with that. No running back. 1:26:41.400 --> 1:26:45.559 Maybe running back, and if you're gonna run the right 1:26:45.560 --> 1:26:47.400 style of offense, I think it running back. You're fine. 1:26:47.760 --> 1:26:51.840 I think listen, I think if you have Charking. Uh, 1:26:52.400 --> 1:26:55.000 are you so all of a sudden you're done with Westbrook? 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:57.560 He can't be a good number three receiver. No, but 1:26:57.680 --> 1:26:59.360 you need another guy, so you don't feel great about 1:26:59.400 --> 1:27:05.479 the group. Well, you need another defensive end too, We 1:27:05.600 --> 1:27:12.879 got to you need a big end h Man crickets. 1:27:14.000 --> 1:27:16.360 It's not good. You need a big end of the 1:27:16.439 --> 1:27:18.840 style of defensive playing now. But you don't need I mean, 1:27:18.880 --> 1:27:21.680 you can get by with with two passing ends if 1:27:21.720 --> 1:27:25.760 you have two big guys in the middle. Okay, it 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:27.840 means there's some work to be done in the offseason. 1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:37.080 I mean, great, it's a lot. Say what it was 1:27:37.120 --> 1:27:40.320 a big end on your team when you were good? Uh? 1:27:40.439 --> 1:27:43.200 We we we had Smangy, we had Logman, we had Brackens. 1:27:44.360 --> 1:27:48.200 Not big ends. They were they were not big ends. No, 1:27:48.320 --> 1:27:53.160 but the style ends the end. But Smanky was two 1:27:53.240 --> 1:27:55.800 hundred and seventy pounds, sixty five pounds. He was a 1:27:55.880 --> 1:27:58.920 big dude. He could hold the point with the tight 1:27:59.080 --> 1:28:02.880 end over there. But you're talking like when you talk 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:04.800 big and in their defense, you're talking about Clay. I'm 1:28:04.800 --> 1:28:06.479 just talking about close side end. And I guess you 1:28:06.520 --> 1:28:08.720 know John, I mean Josh Allen's big enough. He could 1:28:08.720 --> 1:28:15.519 do it all right, right? Uh? Final question, Uh, Mr 1:28:15.680 --> 1:28:18.720 sach Ray. In twenty five years, this franchise has seen 1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:21.920 little success. What is the root cause? I feel like 1:28:22.000 --> 1:28:24.200 we talked about things on the surface, but we can 1:28:24.280 --> 1:28:27.880 never pinpoint the root of the problem. Small market problems. 1:28:28.200 --> 1:28:30.680 Why can't we seem to get the right people on 1:28:30.920 --> 1:28:35.320 and off the field to bring success. I don't think 1:28:35.360 --> 1:28:37.200 small market has anything to do with it. I mean 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:40.439 Green Bay is smaller market and they're pretty successful. Um, 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:44.720 it's drafting, lay it out there. From the end of 1:28:44.720 --> 1:28:48.000 the day, it's about It's about the leadership and draft 1:28:48.120 --> 1:28:50.920 and building the right getting the right pieces, the right 1:28:51.000 --> 1:28:53.439 Jimmy's and Joe's on the field, and then coaching them 1:28:53.520 --> 1:28:56.120 up and having them execute. That's I mean. Look, Tony, 1:28:56.240 --> 1:29:00.479 I always go back to your draft. Your draft. Okay, 1:29:01.200 --> 1:29:04.640 you had extra picks in the draft, and this is 1:29:04.720 --> 1:29:07.960 a perfect taste illustration of what happens when you miss 1:29:08.000 --> 1:29:13.000 on draft picks. You big hit James Stewart, solid hit, 1:29:13.160 --> 1:29:18.160 not a great hit. Solid hit. DeMarco with Schwartz ended 1:29:18.240 --> 1:29:21.680 up being a with and here and here's the one. 1:29:22.560 --> 1:29:25.479 Chris Hudson was a miss. So what did they do 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:29.040 when they miss Chris Hudson? Come back two years later 1:29:29.360 --> 1:29:32.080 and they take Mike Logan. What happens when they missed 1:29:32.120 --> 1:29:34.519 Mike Logan? They have to use a first round pick 1:29:34.560 --> 1:29:39.040 in ninety on Donovan Darius. There's where all the problems 1:29:39.200 --> 1:29:43.520 come into play for a franchise. When you miss drafting, 1:29:44.160 --> 1:29:46.760 you try and compensate at a either at a later 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:49.320 draft or through free agency, and it comes back to bite, 1:29:49.360 --> 1:29:53.200 you know, behind who is the best or one are something? 1:29:53.800 --> 1:29:56.400 Give us some of the best organizations at drafting right 1:29:56.439 --> 1:29:58.920 now and they all miss. I think the Ravens have 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:03.320 had great drafts over the years. The Ravens have traditionally 1:30:03.360 --> 1:30:05.400 been one of those teams where I'll let my free 1:30:05.439 --> 1:30:07.840 agent go because I got a guy over here I 1:30:07.880 --> 1:30:11.439 can get. Yeah, I can put them in, you know, 1:30:11.840 --> 1:30:14.680 like they let Sugs go and now jud Don is 1:30:14.760 --> 1:30:18.000 having a great year. They just know how to replace. 1:30:18.280 --> 1:30:22.639 That's what good good organizations do. They replace right now? 1:30:23.080 --> 1:30:26.400 Is there any replace. I mean, Herndon's playing because he 1:30:26.520 --> 1:30:29.640 had to. But is there a replaced guy in the 1:30:29.840 --> 1:30:33.519 on the on the field on defense right now or replace? No? No, 1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:38.280 And the Steelers are historically been great at drafting. Yes, 1:30:38.720 --> 1:30:42.519 how about the Seahawks lately over the the run over 1:30:42.560 --> 1:30:45.200 the last and I don't know that I can't go 1:30:45.240 --> 1:30:46.919 through the whole roster, but a lot of the Seahawks 1:30:48.240 --> 1:30:50.040 good players are guys have drafted him. I mean they 1:30:50.080 --> 1:30:53.559 traded for Dwayne Brown the left Happle Clowney's there now 1:30:53.680 --> 1:30:55.320 and Clowney they got on the trade but it was 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:59.680 the greatest trade ever. But the but the good Seahawks 1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:02.599 team teams were built on the draft, through the draft, 1:31:03.080 --> 1:31:05.320 right I think that was my point? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:31:05.520 --> 1:31:08.439 like yeah, like Sherman and and uh but even if 1:31:08.479 --> 1:31:10.519 you look at it now, they're they're best players. Russell 1:31:10.560 --> 1:31:15.519 Wilson drafted their two backs, drafted Bobby Wagner, drafted kJ Wright. 1:31:15.640 --> 1:31:19.599 I think he was a draft Um, they're good corner 1:31:19.720 --> 1:31:24.960 right now. Uh what's his name? Twin brothers on the team. 1:31:25.000 --> 1:31:28.840 I came think he's a draft pick. But I mean, 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:32.719 like here here's their draft traded for example, two thousand 1:31:32.760 --> 1:31:38.160 and ten o'coon who started Earl Thomas, Golden Tate, Cam Chancellor. 1:31:38.680 --> 1:31:41.080 That's four guys in that draft. Then you come back 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:43.679 and you get kg kJ right in the fourth round, 1:31:44.000 --> 1:31:46.800 Richard Sherman and the fifth Malcolm Smith, remember he was 1:31:46.840 --> 1:31:49.360 a Super Bowl m V p uh in the seventh. 1:31:49.400 --> 1:31:51.240 Then he come back the next year, Bruce Servant did 1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:54.599 quite work out, but one awful, Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson, 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:57.840 Jake and then Sweezy came in the seventh round. Then 1:31:57.880 --> 1:31:59.920 you come back the next year. They blew at the 1:32:00.160 --> 1:32:02.560 year because they got Kristin Kristen Michael Member he was 1:32:02.640 --> 1:32:05.559 a bust, but they get Luke Wilson, Spencer Ware who 1:32:05.720 --> 1:32:07.680 end up playing the league. You come back, you get 1:32:07.720 --> 1:32:12.760 Paul Richardson, Justin Britt Cassius Marsh which isn't great, and 1:32:12.840 --> 1:32:16.400 then Frank Clark, Tyler Lockett, Mark Lewinsky who is now 1:32:16.520 --> 1:32:22.360 starting in in Indianapolis. So there are drafts. Effettie read Vanette, 1:32:23.360 --> 1:32:29.120 Quentin Jefferson. I mean they get guys that play, So 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:33.720 I was right. I mean here's the other thing though, 1:32:33.800 --> 1:32:35.599 if they don't get Russell Wilson, they got they don't 1:32:35.600 --> 1:32:37.120 get if they don't hit him in the third round, 1:32:37.160 --> 1:32:41.120 it's still there's still floundering. If you go through. I mean, 1:32:41.160 --> 1:32:42.920 we could do this all night. But if you go through, 1:32:43.160 --> 1:32:45.559 most of the teams that are in the division lead 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:48.000 or are fighting for the wild carpet. Let's just do 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:51.760 the division leaders are the best teams. It's built to 1:32:51.800 --> 1:32:54.760 the draft. They traded for Jimmy g but most of 1:32:54.800 --> 1:32:58.160 their guys are draft picks. Um. They did some, they 1:32:58.240 --> 1:33:01.759 did some free agents, but the majority of their basis 1:33:02.160 --> 1:33:05.000 is the draft. If you look like, okay, let's go 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:08.080 through a Bosa, the big These are guys contributing this year. 1:33:08.200 --> 1:33:11.040 Bosa Samuel I mentioned green Law, he was a fifth 1:33:11.160 --> 1:33:15.040 round pick. Uh. Then you get McGlinchey, first round pick, 1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:19.200 pet Warner third round pick. Uh DJ, I mean these 1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:21.320 guys are all later picks. Then you get to the night. 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:23.760 Solomon Thomas was a miss as a first round pick. 1:33:24.439 --> 1:33:27.280 He's a miss. Ruben Foster is a miss. But what 1:33:27.400 --> 1:33:29.719 happened to him, that's why. But then they get Henderson 1:33:29.800 --> 1:33:31.920 in the third round. They get Kiddle on the fifth 1:33:32.040 --> 1:33:34.080 round in that same draft. Then d J. Jones, who 1:33:34.160 --> 1:33:36.640 starts on the nose came in the six so they 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:38.599 missed the first two first and they have two first 1:33:38.680 --> 1:33:40.960 round picks. Think about that for a second tony two 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:44.479 first round picks that year, miss on Thomas, miss on Foster, 1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:47.800 but they get starting corner and Witherspoon the best tight 1:33:47.920 --> 1:33:50.360 end in the NFL right now, and Kittle and d J. 1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:53.280 Jones is their starting nose in the sixth round. That's 1:33:53.320 --> 1:33:55.240 how you compensate and make up for it, and that's 1:33:55.240 --> 1:33:57.280 why your team is good. I mean, the Saints are 1:33:57.280 --> 1:33:59.960 though different, the Saints is you know, obviously Drew Brees 1:34:00.120 --> 1:34:02.680 was a free agent, but the Saints have drafted. They 1:34:02.760 --> 1:34:06.599 draft a lot of good players Green Bay, I mean, 1:34:06.800 --> 1:34:11.000 and so the drect you like, free agency is important 1:34:11.120 --> 1:34:14.559 is to fill a couple like just bits and pieces. 1:34:14.760 --> 1:34:17.559 But the team, the good teams are built through the draft. 1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:20.920 It's the bottom line. You're gonna have misses. Everyone misses, 1:34:20.960 --> 1:34:22.000 but you have to have a lot. You have to 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:27.200 have more hits than misses. And that's not happening ahead people. 1:34:27.840 --> 1:34:30.400 And the forty Niners did draft a running back in 1:34:30.479 --> 1:34:35.479 the top ten. Mm hmm, thanks Pete. Pete loves going 1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:39.559 back to that. That's that is literally his like Trump card. Okay, 1:34:39.680 --> 1:34:42.160 I'm a great hand, but here it is, and I 1:34:42.280 --> 1:34:44.680 applaud I applauded letter for net for what he's done 1:34:44.720 --> 1:34:46.519 and how he's changed. But it's just the value of 1:34:46.560 --> 1:34:49.320 the position. You just don't take that there. How many misses? 1:34:49.479 --> 1:34:52.080 Is too many misses? Oh? I don't know if there's 1:34:52.080 --> 1:34:55.439 a numbers one person that would know that the owner 1:34:55.479 --> 1:35:00.479 of the team. Well, right now, no, I mean that 1:35:00.760 --> 1:35:04.040 right now it's I mean, I still think the way 1:35:04.080 --> 1:35:07.080 it's where we sit today is it's the evaluation of 1:35:07.680 --> 1:35:10.120 of Tom. I mean, Tom is the one who evaluate 1:35:10.200 --> 1:35:13.080 is going to evaluate all that until further notice. I mean, 1:35:13.400 --> 1:35:17.479 but as we sit today, So basically what you're talking, 1:35:17.520 --> 1:35:23.639 he's evaluating himself because he's drafted him. Yeah. I guess 1:35:23.680 --> 1:35:28.080 you're right. I can't evaluate you, Okay, silly, based on 1:35:28.200 --> 1:35:30.439 your evaluation of your effort in this radio show, you 1:35:30.560 --> 1:35:33.320 I think a plus A plus. I'm an A plus 1:35:35.240 --> 1:35:37.640 and me and JP, who are really doing the evaluation, 1:35:37.760 --> 1:35:41.479 might give you a C plus maybe something lower than that. 1:35:42.040 --> 1:35:54.080 On that that hurts D D D. But you understand 1:35:54.160 --> 1:35:56.439 what you're what I'm saying, Tony, how could Tom do 1:35:56.600 --> 1:36:03.960 the critiquing of the draft when he did it, let's 1:36:03.960 --> 1:36:07.880 gonna break. You want to go to break? 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Now 1:39:54.760 --> 1:39:57.639 you can't just say, you know, it's just the players. 1:39:57.680 --> 1:40:00.160 It's us as coaches too, So you know, we try 1:40:00.200 --> 1:40:02.040 to put him in good position. We work on things 1:40:02.160 --> 1:40:04.360 during the week, but um, you know, if you don't 1:40:04.400 --> 1:40:06.360 have that performance on the field, and it's a reflection 1:40:06.439 --> 1:40:10.439 on everyone. Sorry, Doug interrupted, Doug Marone there Jaguars head. 1:40:10.439 --> 1:40:13.800 That was embarrassing, Jaguar's head coach. That's why you get 1:40:13.840 --> 1:40:17.920 a D minus. WHOA wow, you're throwing out grades now, 1:40:18.320 --> 1:40:21.760 how about that? That's Tony started the grades you threw 1:40:22.680 --> 1:40:25.280 Pete started it. He gave you too high, but I 1:40:25.360 --> 1:40:27.559 gave I gave a C plus. You said way lower. 1:40:28.000 --> 1:40:30.240 I said D plus. I said D plus, you said 1:40:30.320 --> 1:40:33.479 C plus. At least it's not an F. But look, 1:40:33.640 --> 1:40:35.320 look at the right type of ellie. You did what 1:40:35.400 --> 1:40:37.479 you wanted to do. You danced around the question. When 1:40:37.520 --> 1:40:41.959 I asked you the question, you deflected. He's a deflector, 1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:47.080 certainly is he deflects. I bull rushed him and he 1:40:47.160 --> 1:40:48.720 did what he did, did plenty of defensive ends. He 1:40:48.800 --> 1:40:50.559 threw me to the side and didn't answer my question. 1:40:51.920 --> 1:40:54.559 But what's the answer then? What was the question? Again? 1:40:56.040 --> 1:40:58.519 Shouldn't golf and be held it was he critique and 1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:00.439 he should be held accountable. But for all his picks, 1:41:00.479 --> 1:41:03.799 he's the one who made him. You agree, yes, absolutely 1:41:03.840 --> 1:41:09.280 should be okay, h what what would you say, Pete? 1:41:09.800 --> 1:41:11.920 Just out of curiosity and none of us really know 1:41:12.800 --> 1:41:16.960 if you took all your draft picks, what should be 1:41:17.120 --> 1:41:22.240 your hit rate over you know, a six year period, Well, 1:41:22.320 --> 1:41:25.080 you should hit on if you say you have six 1:41:25.320 --> 1:41:31.280 first round picks, and I'm gonna say if you hit six, 1:41:31.479 --> 1:41:32.960 if you have six round picks, you gott hit him 1:41:33.000 --> 1:41:39.880 five first round o'na say second round picks? Okay, because 1:41:39.880 --> 1:41:42.000 it different variables. You're not gonna hit on all your 1:41:42.040 --> 1:41:44.120 seven you got. If you hit one seventh round pick 1:41:44.160 --> 1:41:47.040 in that six years, you should do cart wheels if 1:41:47.080 --> 1:41:50.120 you hit. So, let's just say five of six first 1:41:50.200 --> 1:41:55.639 round picks, four of the six second round picks, three 1:41:55.960 --> 1:42:03.000 of the six third round picks, two fours, and then 1:42:03.080 --> 1:42:05.320 one all the way through. You do that, you're having 1:42:05.320 --> 1:42:11.000 a good You're drafted? Well, were you great? Is that 1:42:11.080 --> 1:42:14.760 a good formula? Sure? I guess where do you think 1:42:14.840 --> 1:42:17.760 this team is? Okay, go through their draft picks. They 1:42:17.800 --> 1:42:20.479 haven't hit on five of the six first round picks. Okay, 1:42:20.560 --> 1:42:24.000 go through read the first round picks quick quickly. Last 1:42:24.240 --> 1:42:29.439 last year, Josh Allen, Yeah, Davin Bryan, keep going. I 1:42:29.520 --> 1:42:31.240 think Lair's a hit. I know you don't like you. 1:42:32.120 --> 1:42:33.600 It's not a it's not a hit based on the 1:42:33.680 --> 1:42:36.160 value that. Okay, fine, it's not not a hit at four. 1:42:37.960 --> 1:42:42.479 It's a hit at for. It's not a Ramsey Jayling 1:42:42.560 --> 1:42:45.840 Ramsey is a hit. Is it's not the roster it 1:42:45.960 --> 1:42:49.000 was pick, it's the right pick. He's a good player. Okay, 1:42:49.120 --> 1:42:56.920 just go Foler Bortles, no joke, No, how many of that? 1:42:57.160 --> 1:43:00.640 That's what? How many graphics who had a seven two 1:43:00.680 --> 1:43:05.160 out of seven, two out of seven. Pete says it's 1:43:05.160 --> 1:43:07.400 a hit. Okay, let's go to second round. Oh gosh, okay, 1:43:07.439 --> 1:43:10.800 it's gonna be a while. This is good. This is 1:43:10.840 --> 1:43:12.800 good to hear. I like to hear this myself. Joan 1:43:12.920 --> 1:43:18.680 Taylor hit yes. DJ Chark hit yes. Cam Robinson no, 1:43:19.439 --> 1:43:25.000 thank you, Miles Jack no, t J Yeldon ll no, 1:43:25.920 --> 1:43:32.040 markis Lee No. Well, I think if you want, it's 1:43:32.040 --> 1:43:33.679 hard to fact that I am because of the injury. 1:43:33.760 --> 1:43:36.280 But the answer is no. Well, okay, I would say 1:43:36.400 --> 1:43:40.519 I'm gonna get Marquis Yes, m you signed him to 1:43:40.600 --> 1:43:45.120 a second deal. No, it's a no, Tony, he's not. 1:43:45.360 --> 1:43:47.960 He hasn't been a contributor for her going around. Jonathan 1:43:48.040 --> 1:43:55.280 Cyprio No, Allen Robinson, Oh yeah, that was another second 1:43:55.320 --> 1:43:57.479 round pick. Allen Robinson. Yes, yes, well, I don't know 1:43:57.600 --> 1:44:01.000 he's not on the roster. But no, two. That's two 1:44:01.080 --> 1:44:04.800 out of eight because if you hit them, they should 1:44:04.800 --> 1:44:08.200 still be on the roster. This is not a good 1:44:08.280 --> 1:44:10.840 ratio so far have Should we do the third round here? 1:44:11.479 --> 1:44:15.160 Let's do the third round? Okay, the ratio here, I 1:44:15.240 --> 1:44:18.120 bet they get three of these. Josh Oliver, Josh Oliver 1:44:18.200 --> 1:44:25.000 and Quincy Williams two early. Ronnie Harrison No, Dwan Smooth, 1:44:25.800 --> 1:44:31.920 no Unique and got Way Yes. A J. Can Yes, 1:44:32.120 --> 1:44:39.120 they've resigned him. They started the most games, right, Brandon Linder, Yes, yes, 1:44:39.960 --> 1:44:46.439 Dwayne Rotts. Oh, so that's three out of six, believe it? Okay? 1:44:46.479 --> 1:44:51.519 In the third round, you want to do fourth although 1:44:51.600 --> 1:44:54.400 a J. A j. Is a starter, but he's not good. 1:44:55.080 --> 1:44:58.920 Do you want to you want the fourth round signed? Hey, 1:44:59.000 --> 1:45:00.680 let's just go through the four with an litill call 1:45:00.720 --> 1:45:04.160 it here. No fourth round pick this year. Last year 1:45:04.280 --> 1:45:08.640 it would have been will Richardson Jr. To be determined. 1:45:09.680 --> 1:45:16.760 Dan Westbrook in seventeen say yes, Sheldon Day, Well, he's 1:45:16.760 --> 1:45:26.160 playing on another team. But no, James Sample No, Aaron Colvin. No, 1:45:27.960 --> 1:45:29.960 you didn't resign because you couldn't afford him. He's a 1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:36.120 good player. I think he's a hit. I'm giving him 1:45:36.200 --> 1:45:42.240 hit going wow, uh, Ace Sanders, that's the fourth rounders, 1:45:42.320 --> 1:45:45.800 so you have that's two out of six with the 1:45:45.920 --> 1:45:49.800 one he's not on the roster, so it's not a hit. 1:45:50.240 --> 1:45:54.080 That's two out of six with an undetermined in will Richardson. Wow, 1:45:55.280 --> 1:45:59.639 not good, not good? Not good? Um, we could play 1:45:59.680 --> 1:46:01.760 this game all night. Let's just move along to the 1:46:01.800 --> 1:46:05.320 ANFC South. Let's start with the results from yesterday around 1:46:05.400 --> 1:46:09.720 the division. The Broncos beat the Texans. Watson's day a 1:46:09.840 --> 1:46:12.920 couple of interceptions and a couple of touchdown runs, but 1:46:13.040 --> 1:46:15.760 Drew Lock looking good for Denver. That's the bigger news 1:46:15.880 --> 1:46:19.519 in that game. The Texans loss, though, combined with the 1:46:19.720 --> 1:46:23.360 Titans win over the Raiders, means there's a tie for 1:46:23.520 --> 1:46:26.840 first place in the division and those two teams will 1:46:26.920 --> 1:46:29.519 play each other twice over the last three weeks of 1:46:29.600 --> 1:46:31.960 the season. Head to hit, that is a bad loss 1:46:32.040 --> 1:46:36.280 for the for the Texans, a bad loss. And I 1:46:36.360 --> 1:46:39.559 didn't see the game. Is Drew Lock the real deal? Pete? Yeah, 1:46:39.600 --> 1:46:41.840 I mean he can. He can spend it, you know 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.599 he can. I mean in he's placed with an added 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:48.800 tude and so you know, here's a question. If you're 1:46:48.840 --> 1:46:50.560 the Jaguars, would you rather have Drew Lock and not 1:46:50.720 --> 1:46:57.120 have Nick Foles? Damn? Right now, the question would be 1:46:57.200 --> 1:47:00.320 do you want Drew Lock and not Juwan Taylor? Because 1:47:00.680 --> 1:47:04.200 that's where you had to draft him. He was a 1:47:04.240 --> 1:47:07.160 second But if you hadn't signed Nick Foles, you might 1:47:07.240 --> 1:47:08.760 have been in a position where you decided he was 1:47:08.800 --> 1:47:11.920 gonna take Drew Lock. No, I understand that, But would 1:47:11.960 --> 1:47:16.400 you take Drew Lock instead of Jown Taylor right now? Yes? Hey, 1:47:16.439 --> 1:47:18.240 are we ever gonna circle back, by the way on 1:47:18.360 --> 1:47:22.080 the whole? Would you take Jamis Winston or Nick Foles? 1:47:22.400 --> 1:47:27.000 You said Foles? Yeah, Well, so we forgot that. We 1:47:27.120 --> 1:47:30.160 forgot that. Although I mean, what a bad loss by 1:47:30.240 --> 1:47:35.280 Indie two because Jamis Winston through three picks three something 1:47:35.360 --> 1:47:38.919 yards and three touchdowns. Well, actually actually threw four touchdowns 1:47:38.960 --> 1:47:41.760 because one was the pick six to Darius Leonard. Yeah, 1:47:42.800 --> 1:47:49.559 he's got as many interceptions as he does touchdown. Let 1:47:49.600 --> 1:47:55.120 me ask, would you take touchdowns twenty three interceptions? He's 1:47:55.120 --> 1:47:59.000 better than Nick Foles. He threw for four fifty six yesterday. 1:47:59.160 --> 1:48:01.639 I'm think going to sign and Pete. I mean, you're 1:48:01.640 --> 1:48:03.519 almost damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Right, 1:48:03.920 --> 1:48:08.519 I think on't franchise one more year? Probably expensive though 1:48:11.560 --> 1:48:14.360 quick AFC South Power rankings, not that it matters for 1:48:14.400 --> 1:48:18.639 the Jags anymore. At the bottom. At the bottom, Titans 1:48:18.640 --> 1:48:21.519 are at number one, Texans are number two, Culture three, 1:48:21.640 --> 1:48:26.240 and Jags are four. Yeah, I agree, the Titans are 1:48:26.240 --> 1:48:29.639 gonna win the division. Ryan County all is playing good football, 1:48:29.920 --> 1:48:32.040 which goes back to you could have gotten him a 1:48:32.080 --> 1:48:37.599 lot cheaper than Nickols. Touch the rest of the games. 1:48:37.840 --> 1:48:39.519 I mean, you know you gotta throw them all out there. 1:48:39.600 --> 1:48:43.679 Don't you look around the NFL when we come back. 1:48:43.800 --> 1:48:47.639 This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 1:48:52.880 --> 1:48:58.040 Tito's Haymade Vodka is America's original craft vodka beverage. 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And we just did these rankings and 1:52:33.320 --> 1:52:36.920 if you go just just take the first rounders. Is 1:52:37.520 --> 1:52:45.960 there's only one first rounder out of seven? Seven? Really too, 1:52:46.160 --> 1:52:48.160 because I know you think Leonard for it's the wrong 1:52:48.200 --> 1:52:53.840 guy because of the value. But I gave them and 1:52:53.960 --> 1:52:56.160 our thing go on two or seven. You took off winterd. 1:52:56.200 --> 1:52:59.719 I gave them Jalen. But the whole point is that's 1:52:59.760 --> 1:53:04.519 four or five starters or three to five starters that 1:53:04.560 --> 1:53:07.000 you should have on your team right now that are productive, 1:53:07.280 --> 1:53:11.280 high end players that you don't have. And when you 1:53:11.479 --> 1:53:16.080 lose that, it is really hard. And then when you 1:53:16.120 --> 1:53:18.479 look at the second rounders, I mean, that's that's the 1:53:18.600 --> 1:53:22.960 core of your guys who make a difference on Sunday, 1:53:24.320 --> 1:53:27.120 and that's and that's it's hard to win games well. 1:53:27.200 --> 1:53:30.599 And the other thing, Tony is when they're high first 1:53:30.720 --> 1:53:33.559 round picks, it's even worse because you're expecting those guys 1:53:33.640 --> 1:53:35.519 to be Pro Bowl players. They've all been high frust 1:53:35.560 --> 1:53:40.679 round picks everyone. But so that there's there's your wid 1:53:41.040 --> 1:53:44.360 boardles with foul or high pick with I mean, it's 1:53:44.400 --> 1:53:48.640 just with and if you're gonna go and you go 1:53:48.720 --> 1:53:50.880 back to Leonard who's having a very good year, and 1:53:51.160 --> 1:53:53.280 let's take Pete's opinion off the board that you don't 1:53:53.439 --> 1:53:56.280 pick a running back that high. If you pick him 1:53:56.360 --> 1:53:58.559 that high, well then you have to build your offense 1:53:59.120 --> 1:54:02.200 based on the runner he is, which does not happened. 1:54:02.280 --> 1:54:06.080 I mean much like I mean you look at uh Carolina. 1:54:06.120 --> 1:54:09.679 They took uh McCaffrey with ten or nine, ten or eleven, 1:54:09.720 --> 1:54:13.560 whatever you want in that area and the offense is 1:54:13.600 --> 1:54:17.840 built around what he does well inside outside zone. Use 1:54:17.920 --> 1:54:19.880 him out of the backfield as a receiver, get the 1:54:19.920 --> 1:54:21.760 ball in his hands. I mean that they built the 1:54:21.840 --> 1:54:24.720 offense around him and gave the personnel to do it. 1:54:26.280 --> 1:54:28.599 And so let me ask you this toy. Is Leonard 1:54:28.680 --> 1:54:33.360 now a better receiver than he is runner? No? I listen. 1:54:33.440 --> 1:54:36.440 I think he's caught the most balls on this team 1:54:36.480 --> 1:54:38.440 this year, which is a lot of them. Are I 1:54:38.480 --> 1:54:40.880 mean his yards were a ten or yards per catches. 1:54:41.240 --> 1:54:46.480 He's got more than not yards per catching. Um. I 1:54:46.600 --> 1:54:49.440 still say Leonard for Nett as a gap runner is 1:54:49.480 --> 1:54:52.400 a good running back. If you want to say we're 1:54:52.440 --> 1:54:54.680 gonna be a gap team, we're gonna counter, we're gonna 1:54:54.720 --> 1:54:57.520 get we're gonna run power, we're gonna run what I 1:54:57.520 --> 1:54:59.560 would call base whatever you want. Where was getting a 1:54:59.600 --> 1:55:03.000 bunch of double teams and you know, and letting him 1:55:03.040 --> 1:55:05.840 pick the whole type of deal. Like he's like he's 1:55:05.880 --> 1:55:08.200 a physical guy. He's not gonna make him miss. He's 1:55:08.240 --> 1:55:11.320 not a great jump cut guy. He's he's his go 1:55:11.520 --> 1:55:14.640 to move is to spin. I mean, but he's downhill, 1:55:14.760 --> 1:55:17.360 north and south guy. And like he's affect, like Henry 1:55:17.600 --> 1:55:20.680 like Henry Henry. Henry has great feat Henry is a 1:55:20.800 --> 1:55:22.960 jump cut. Henry has a good jump cut. He could 1:55:23.040 --> 1:55:27.520 run inside zone. He's effective at that. Uh Like, but 1:55:27.640 --> 1:55:29.640 you have to build that, like you've just to decide 1:55:29.680 --> 1:55:31.200 that's what we're gonna be. Then we have to build 1:55:31.200 --> 1:55:32.920 it like that. We're gonna play all our play action 1:55:32.960 --> 1:55:34.480 pass and all that stuff is gonna be off the 1:55:34.520 --> 1:55:38.120 power and counter stuff we do. But then you have 1:55:38.240 --> 1:55:40.000 to have big people. You have to big tight end, 1:55:40.000 --> 1:55:41.400 you have a big physical office. Lie you have to 1:55:41.440 --> 1:55:43.360 fall back things we've said all night, and so I 1:55:43.920 --> 1:55:47.360 like I would not pick back number four either, Pete. 1:55:48.640 --> 1:55:50.160 But like, if you want to be fair to let 1:55:50.200 --> 1:55:54.000 her like he's having a productive year, he's a good player, 1:55:55.800 --> 1:55:57.720 he's done a good I'm giving him credit for what 1:55:57.800 --> 1:56:01.280 he's done. And I think right now he's one of 1:56:01.320 --> 1:56:04.200 those guys that's turned things around. Credit. Dam It's just 1:56:04.280 --> 1:56:06.680 the value of the position isn't there for me? And 1:56:06.760 --> 1:56:08.760 I don't think he's the type of back in the 1:56:08.880 --> 1:56:12.760 NFL that that you know, makes people miss. And it's 1:56:12.800 --> 1:56:15.560 an air game now you gotta make people miss. Let's 1:56:15.600 --> 1:56:17.520 touch on some of the games around the League yesterday 1:56:17.600 --> 1:56:22.080 Falcons over the Panthers fort twenty, the Ravens looking good again, 1:56:22.920 --> 1:56:27.120 seventeen over the Bills, um, the Browns beat the Bengals 1:56:27.880 --> 1:56:30.839 nineteen and then Baker Mayfield talking about the training staff 1:56:30.880 --> 1:56:34.800 after the game. Odell Beckham Um, They was asking him 1:56:34.800 --> 1:56:37.560 about what was it, Peter about Odell Beckham and he said, 1:56:37.840 --> 1:56:42.280 some problems turn and he's gonna have the three. And 1:56:42.360 --> 1:56:44.120 so he took a little shot at the trainings there. 1:56:44.360 --> 1:56:46.320 Let me let me say something about the Ravens kind 1:56:48.600 --> 1:56:51.440 they at some point he's gonna have to start completing 1:56:51.440 --> 1:56:53.760 passes to the wide receivers. I'm sorry, he's just going 1:56:53.880 --> 1:56:57.920 to have to. And the build did an outstanding job 1:56:58.000 --> 1:56:59.800 on Lamar Jackson yesterday. I don't know if you guys 1:56:59.800 --> 1:57:01.960 saw any bits and pieces of that. He didn't throw 1:57:02.000 --> 1:57:04.040 the ball very well. He in one, you know, busted 1:57:04.080 --> 1:57:06.560 coverage for sixty yards. Other than that, I think he 1:57:06.640 --> 1:57:09.560 was under had like seventy five yards passing and he 1:57:09.640 --> 1:57:12.320 didn't run that well. So if I play the Ravens, 1:57:13.160 --> 1:57:15.360 I'm daring him. I'm taking away the middle of the 1:57:15.400 --> 1:57:17.120 field of daring him and throw the receivers. And I'm 1:57:17.120 --> 1:57:19.520 not letting him run handed off to Mark Ingram. I'm 1:57:19.560 --> 1:57:22.720 stopping that running game. I'm gonna take my chances with it. Eventually, 1:57:22.720 --> 1:57:24.560 it's gonna kept up with them. Well, now, listen, the 1:57:24.640 --> 1:57:30.280 Bills are a good defense r Sean McDermot and Leslie 1:57:30.320 --> 1:57:33.360 Frazier both good defensive minds. I mean they got good 1:57:33.400 --> 1:57:34.720 person now and they did a good job. That's a 1:57:34.720 --> 1:57:37.120 good football team to the Buffalo Bills. They might end 1:57:37.200 --> 1:57:39.720 up winning the FCS because right now the Patriots are 1:57:40.200 --> 1:57:43.520 just scrambling figuring out how to score points. Now that 1:57:43.640 --> 1:57:47.640 Patriot Chief game, how are they cheating? You didn't see 1:57:47.680 --> 1:57:52.360 the story today that they were bes the Bengals. Who 1:57:52.440 --> 1:57:55.760 needs to film the Bengals right? That'd be like filming 1:57:55.800 --> 1:57:59.720 the Jaguars enough. But I'll say this that Patriot defense 1:57:59.800 --> 1:58:02.080 is good. They did a good job against the Chief's offense. 1:58:03.480 --> 1:58:07.720 The offense is bad. It is time now for Monday 1:58:07.880 --> 1:58:10.720 Night football. After a few weeks of great matchups, we're 1:58:10.800 --> 1:58:15.720 back to the horrible, underachieving NFC East. With Daniel Jones injured, 1:58:15.760 --> 1:58:18.000 here comes Eli Manning off the bench at quarterback for 1:58:18.040 --> 1:58:21.360 the two and ten New York Football Giants. They're headed 1:58:21.400 --> 1:58:25.640 to Southfilly to face the underachieving five and seven Philadelphia Eagles, 1:58:25.920 --> 1:58:28.960 who could overtake the horrible first place Dallas Cowboys down 1:58:29.000 --> 1:58:31.360 the stretch? Yuh, who you got tonight? Well, they can't 1:58:31.360 --> 1:58:33.200 overtake them this week because even if they win, they 1:58:33.240 --> 1:58:34.800 have the same record, but they already lost to the 1:58:34.840 --> 1:58:39.840 Cowboys once they they match up or meet up week sixteen. 1:58:41.440 --> 1:58:43.240 That's why I said stretch down the Stretch. I know, 1:58:43.280 --> 1:58:45.320 I'm just saying, just letting people know you down the 1:58:45.320 --> 1:58:50.120 Stretch means down the Stretch. The Giants and Redskins in 1:58:50.160 --> 1:58:54.080 consecutive weeks before that. It's Uh, it's a bad division. 1:58:54.400 --> 1:58:57.600 It's we've had so many good Monday Night games as 1:58:57.640 --> 1:59:01.800 of late. I guess we're doing stink her. I think 1:59:01.840 --> 1:59:04.840 the Eagles win pretty easily. I think it's gonna be 1:59:04.920 --> 1:59:07.360 high scoring, Eli Manning back in the saddle. It's a 1:59:07.440 --> 1:59:09.920 Swan song. The next couple of weeks, I think you 1:59:10.000 --> 1:59:11.560 see a lot of points. But I think the Eagles 1:59:11.600 --> 1:59:15.320 winned two alright. Boys. By the way, we never talked 1:59:15.400 --> 1:59:17.640 after last week's Monday Night game when Pete said that 1:59:17.680 --> 1:59:20.680 the Rams are gonna beat the Ravens and I picked 1:59:20.720 --> 1:59:22.960 the rate. Last week. That was close, but you were 1:59:22.960 --> 1:59:26.000 almost there. They only lost by five touchdowns. That wasn't 1:59:26.080 --> 1:59:28.360 last week, Okay, two weeks ago. That was two weeks ago. 1:59:28.400 --> 1:59:30.640 They lost by eight touchdowns. Good call, Pete. That's why 1:59:30.720 --> 1:59:33.320 you're an expert picker. I'm sure CBS is proud to 1:59:33.360 --> 1:59:42.160 have you. Selly, I'm J. P. Shadwick. We'll talk to 1:59:42.240 --> 1:59:45.000 you next time. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jack Clars 1:59:45.080 --> 1:59:45.960 Digital Network