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Speaker 1: is Monday, December nine. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jack
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadra Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by
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Speaker 1: In the aftermath of a forty five tin loss to
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers, five consecutive losses for the Jags,
Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up on the program today, will recap
Speaker 1: that ball game. Of course, the defense seems like it's done.
Speaker 1: There's no offensive magic even with Minshew. We're gonna open
Speaker 1: it fell draft talk tonight. Officially, the Jags are eliminated
Speaker 1: from postseason contention. Social media questions, Yes, social media questions,
Speaker 1: AMC South breakdown that will go around the National Football League. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Tony, How are you sir? I'm good, Pete,
Speaker 1: how are you? It? Depending? It depends on part of
Speaker 1: my life you talk about like overall, like life's good.
Speaker 1: My football life right now not so good. I'm great.
Speaker 1: I'm fantastic because you have no loyalty. You have no
Speaker 1: loyalty to anyone but yourself. True. True, that is true.
Speaker 1: So it's hard to be bad as long as you're
Speaker 1: doing good. Every as everything's going good for me and
Speaker 1: my wife, I'm happy. Yeah, you're correct, um, Tony. That
Speaker 1: is the worst football team I've ever seen right there
Speaker 1: for a five game stretch. Well, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: since because it's the first teams to lose five straight
Speaker 1: games by seventeen or more. Yeah, who was the last
Speaker 1: team to do that? Thats who were weren't very good either,
Speaker 1: But it's the worst Jaguars team by far. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're expansion team, if you played them, would be
Speaker 1: favored by a touchdown. It's shocking. It is shocking how
Speaker 1: bad they are. And I mean it's painful to say
Speaker 1: because obviously love the team and love the franchise and
Speaker 1: all that and and friends on in the building. But
Speaker 1: they're bad. I mean, there's no two ways about it.
Speaker 1: They are a bad football team right now and there
Speaker 1: as we sit here right now, they're the worst team
Speaker 1: in the National Footballague. Yes, that was Are they worse
Speaker 1: than the Bengals? Yes, Bengals are hanging in games, Yes
Speaker 1: they are. Tony Dolphins are. Dolphins are hanging in games.
Speaker 1: The Giants, we'll see you tonight, but they're hanging in games.
Speaker 1: Got a quarterback. The Redskins hung around a little bit
Speaker 1: with the Packers on the road yesterday. If this Jaguars
Speaker 1: team went to play Rogers and that gang in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: yeah we are. Yep, that's fair. And the same thing
Speaker 1: about it is they are the worst team in the league,
Speaker 1: but they have no chance to get the top overall
Speaker 1: pick none. Even if you guaranteed three straight wins, which
Speaker 1: somebody said you did, I have no chance. I never
Speaker 1: guaranteed three straight wins. We're gonna win three straight, guaranteed
Speaker 1: seven straight. I got a text. I got a text
Speaker 1: from somebody that said you locked the last three three games.
Speaker 1: That's not accurate. I've not locked anything. I said. They
Speaker 1: would not win again if they continue to play it
Speaker 1: this way. Well you don't have to. By the way,
Speaker 1: you don't have to put that little qualifier on the
Speaker 1: end of it. They will not win again, is what. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can stop right there. Okay, fine, that's fine. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna argue that. I never whoever told you that
Speaker 1: lied a little birdies in Jacksonville. That's you know, they chirp, Well,
Speaker 1: they can chirp all they want. They're chirping. Crap in
Speaker 1: your ears what they're chirping. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to say that word, but I just did. You
Speaker 1: just did. So we are we all are in agreement
Speaker 1: right now that they're the worst team in the National
Speaker 1: Football League right now as they are right now? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: well didn't I mean, so I want to argue that point.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you can't argue that point. So they've
Speaker 1: been one seventy four to fifty seven is the score
Speaker 1: the last five games. Here's a better question, because now
Speaker 1: the season is over, so who cares what the records
Speaker 1: alreadymore and some would argue you'd be better off having
Speaker 1: the worst record in the NFL at this point to
Speaker 1: get the one number one overall pick um, though, why
Speaker 1: can't you, pete? Because the worst that the Bengals would
Speaker 1: be would be four, and they beat the Bengals, the
Speaker 1: Bengals could lose the next three and they oh yeah, four,
Speaker 1: that's right, yeah, m hmm um, So they can't um
Speaker 1: pete uh, and the Bengals aren't warning three Straights, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter anyways, they play in New England this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're here's a better question, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if we can do it on the radio or not,
Speaker 1: because I mean it would have to be it would
Speaker 1: be tough to do player by player. Is it the
Speaker 1: worst roster in the NFL? Well, look, you can start
Speaker 1: with the quarterback and compare him to who's playing for
Speaker 1: the teams right now right they're not the Minshoe is
Speaker 1: not better than Ryan Fitzpatrick right now, he's not. He's
Speaker 1: not better than Andy Dalton right now. He's probably better
Speaker 1: than Dwayne Haskins right now or as good. So we're
Speaker 1: going through the worst teams. These are the worst team.
Speaker 1: He is he better than k Eli Manning or Daniel Jones? No, okay,
Speaker 1: so he started that position. The only one that's there
Speaker 1: is that puts you into conversation with the red Skins.
Speaker 1: Is the Jackson offensive line better than Washington's offensive line? Tony,
Speaker 1: I haven't done the Redskins this year. If they're okay,
Speaker 1: they're not good up front, they don't have a lot. Actually,
Speaker 1: did the Redskins against the Vikings earlier? They weren't bad.
Speaker 1: They were terrible. They're all right, all right, but not
Speaker 1: much difference. Yeah, I mean nothing, Yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Running Peterson is not better than four net. He's hurt again.
Speaker 1: He's hurt again. McLaurin is good, but he's not better
Speaker 1: than Chark when he's on the field. So are they
Speaker 1: are the receiving corps equal to each other? No, the
Speaker 1: Redskins are worse, I think. Okay, tight end, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't care who they have a tight end. They're better
Speaker 1: the defense. The defense is much better in Washington, probably
Speaker 1: at every level. Yeah, they had like Dag's had six
Speaker 1: or seven undrafted guys on the field every lefday, including
Speaker 1: Boy and Avery. But yes, well, and here's the thing
Speaker 1: with that, there's only two injuries is on the defense.
Speaker 1: So it's not like these are guys who are playing
Speaker 1: because they have all these injuries. It's Jack who are
Speaker 1: the injured guys? Jack and in Harrison, Well, and he's
Speaker 1: he wasn't that good anyways, He's apparently coming back this week.
Speaker 1: And Jack wasn't playing very well. Um, so it might
Speaker 1: be the worst roster. Well, defensively, it's certainly the worst roster.
Speaker 1: You have two major assets like we always talked about
Speaker 1: in Allan and in Gockway and class is a shell
Speaker 1: of himself now and boy's okay. The rest of it
Speaker 1: is a bunch of who are you and you paid
Speaker 1: and you paid a lot of money for one of
Speaker 1: those who are you right now? Well one of the
Speaker 1: injury guys? Yeah, and Jack. It's not a good it's
Speaker 1: it's it's not a good situation at all. Period. That's
Speaker 1: the other thing we were talking about before the show, Tony,
Speaker 1: is it the worst situation in the league right now? Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's tough to overcome. The situation would be
Speaker 1: the worst situation in the NFL as long as the
Speaker 1: Redskins and Daniel Snyder are involved and Bruce Allen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, as long as long as I mean that
Speaker 1: group's kind of doing what they're doing, I think you're
Speaker 1: safe to say it's really it's like are you thirty?
Speaker 1: First way to say, I mean, you cover the league
Speaker 1: as much as anybody, do you disagree with? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I would take Sean Khan over Daniel Snider anything, anybody. Why,
Speaker 1: I would take Sean kN over a lot of owners.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not the issue. That's not the issue
Speaker 1: perform a football standpoint, Bruce Allen isn't better than anything
Speaker 1: they have there. But that's not saying much. The other
Speaker 1: thing is. But here's the other Me and j P
Speaker 1: were talking about this. They at least have a young
Speaker 1: quarterback they really like that they draft in the first round.
Speaker 1: That whether he's playing to that level, who knows, but
Speaker 1: that's the guy they They clearly drafted him with an
Speaker 1: I on being the franchise quarterback Jacksonville spent and he's cheap.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville spent all that money on a guy they thought
Speaker 1: would be a franchise quarterback and they sat him down. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the tough thing is I mean you I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you're in cap hell or anything or cap jail
Speaker 1: as a team, but it's not a great cap situation
Speaker 1: here either. I mean, you're gonna have to let it
Speaker 1: go a lot of guys, a lot of defensive guys
Speaker 1: from a defense that's not playing well to begin with,
Speaker 1: because you can't afford them. Um, how do we how
Speaker 1: did Pete? I mean, I'm gonna ask you because I
Speaker 1: think sometimes for JP and myself and other people on
Speaker 1: the Jaguar Network that are around it, you can get
Speaker 1: too close to it, and it's dangerous because you either
Speaker 1: can be blinded or be overly negative. Like either of
Speaker 1: those are real possibilities that when you get really close
Speaker 1: to something. Man, I think it's human nature. I think
Speaker 1: we've tried to be pretty balanced and pretty uh, you know,
Speaker 1: fair about how we do this re pete from the distance.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're sitting, you sitting cover the entire league.
Speaker 1: You're sitting Fort Lauderdale, and you kind of at CBS,
Speaker 1: You're you're see a wide spectrum and you hear things
Speaker 1: and you know things, and you talk to people. How
Speaker 1: did this team get here? How did they become? We
Speaker 1: just went through and let me just recap what we said.
Speaker 1: We said it probably is the worst or one of
Speaker 1: the worst. Let's not forget worse, because it's hard. That's
Speaker 1: you're splitting hairs at the bottom. It doesn't matter. But
Speaker 1: one of the worst rosters in the NFL. Correct, And
Speaker 1: how did how did that happen? Well, it starts with
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen. Go back to what me and
Speaker 1: you always say, Tony being an aberration. That was an
Speaker 1: aberration and you say it all the time. I say
Speaker 1: it all the time, you're gonna have that season where
Speaker 1: the ball bounces your way. Two quarterbacks in your division,
Speaker 1: don't play, um, you get all those things go your way.
Speaker 1: And that season they were. Then they got the off
Speaker 1: game in Pittsburgh, they played well and quite prickly, they
Speaker 1: played well. Okay, I get it, but you're not you're
Speaker 1: not telling me how we got here. I mean, because
Speaker 1: we're we're talking about the aberration. We're talking about now
Speaker 1: we're just talking about players. I mean, how did as
Speaker 1: as a team. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna move
Speaker 1: from that aberration to how it happened. They bought in
Speaker 1: the Bordles and he was a mirage, Right, so you
Speaker 1: pay Bordles and you keep Bordles, and that prevents you
Speaker 1: from getting a quarterback for the future. Hey, you had
Speaker 1: a lot of veteran free Let's stop. Let's stop there
Speaker 1: real quickly, because I'm not sure Bordles was a mirrage,
Speaker 1: because when did we ever say on he was a
Speaker 1: rookie in fourteen, fifteen or sixteen, did at any point
Speaker 1: during those times and we ever think that he was
Speaker 1: a guy that you could win a championship with those
Speaker 1: first three years? No, but but when they paid them.
Speaker 1: They clearly thought that okay, okay, they did okay, keep
Speaker 1: going all right, So that prevents you from doing some
Speaker 1: of the things you need to do. Hey, you're the
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback b so then your quarterback out when
Speaker 1: he plays like he normally plays, when everything around him
Speaker 1: isn't falling into place. The defense, the two safeties were
Speaker 1: older free agents that you signed. They had they started
Speaker 1: the decline. Off they go. Malik Jackson when you signed him,
Speaker 1: that was a good signing. By the end of it,
Speaker 1: was it a good signing? No? Off he goes. And
Speaker 1: now you look at Kelvin Smith left, not that he
Speaker 1: was a great player. After Paul pause leslie N left,
Speaker 1: Paul paulus N. Then what do you have? You have
Speaker 1: holand linebacker. Then all of a sudden, your draft picks
Speaker 1: which you you thought were great. Look, Jalo Ramsey, great player.
Speaker 1: Look what happened? Miles Jackie thought you stole him in
Speaker 1: the second round. Now you don't think you stole him
Speaker 1: in the second round. So you start, you know, looking
Speaker 1: comparing to the defensive players, to the draft picks that
Speaker 1: are blown all of a sudden, your defense is a disaster.
Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell age crepped in big problem. He's starting to
Speaker 1: show it. So that's why the defense is wear it is, right,
Speaker 1: So let me listen. I want to just break down
Speaker 1: and then you go to the offense. And so basically
Speaker 1: is what you're saying is you built a defense. You
Speaker 1: missed on draft picks on defense, and you built it
Speaker 1: through free agency, which is a short window and age
Speaker 1: quickly and create cap issues. Now now you're sitting there
Speaker 1: paying the price for a missing draft picks and paying
Speaker 1: for paying too much, for not paying too much you
Speaker 1: always do, but just going trying to build to free agency.
Speaker 1: That nothing not paying your draft picks. Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: that's on the offensive side of the ball. You what
Speaker 1: happened was is you decided you were going to draft
Speaker 1: a running back forth overall. There's your first, first, and foremost.
Speaker 1: That's your number one problem. And why did they draft
Speaker 1: the running back running back forth overall Tony Because they
Speaker 1: thought they had portals. If they don't believe in Bortles
Speaker 1: and they don't get caught up at all that they
Speaker 1: don't sign them to the long term deal and they
Speaker 1: probably draft Mahomes or Watson in that spot and suddenly
Speaker 1: now you look at the franchise, you go, Okay, they
Speaker 1: still might have an aging defense, but now they have
Speaker 1: a quarterback who could carry them through that j defense.
Speaker 1: And so I think that was part of the problem.
Speaker 1: Who whoever in that building and I have an idea
Speaker 1: who it was, because I know his history. Whoever in
Speaker 1: that building wanted the draft Leonard for that. This is
Speaker 1: not an indictment of Leonard for Net, because I think
Speaker 1: he's turned things around. He's become a better player, and
Speaker 1: he's become a much better person. But you don't draft
Speaker 1: that running back at four when you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. There's the problem. On offense. Who
Speaker 1: was it Pete? Then it was Tom? It was clearly Tom.
Speaker 1: I mean I can go back and it referenced Curtis
Speaker 1: Enis and and you know they years ago they were
Speaker 1: gonna draft Curtis. What was Curtis Enis? He was a big,
Speaker 1: physical back who he thought could come in and pound
Speaker 1: the football. He didn't get him. He was infurious that
Speaker 1: he didn't get him. What was Leonard four net when
Speaker 1: he drafted him? A big, powerful back, That's why he
Speaker 1: drafted him. Yeah, But I mean I think I mean,
Speaker 1: Listen does. And ultimately, since Tom's been here, we don't
Speaker 1: need to know whose decision it was because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, he has to sign off on
Speaker 1: all of this Asians, he's the boss, and so um,
Speaker 1: that's just that's reality. But Pete, this goes beyond just
Speaker 1: that seventeen draft. I mean that's just three years ago.
Speaker 1: Your foundation is built, is supposed to be built. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to have depth because over you keep draft picks
Speaker 1: for you signed him the second deals you you know,
Speaker 1: so the draft is supposed to build you, you know,
Speaker 1: at least a handful of guys over six, seven, eight years. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why you have to go out in free agency
Speaker 1: and sign these guys because the draft didn't work out, right,
Speaker 1: And so I just want to make sure, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: since I mean, at the end of the days, it's
Speaker 1: Tom's ben here, it's his responsibility. That's the way it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go, Tony, let's go through. Tom's first draft was okay,
Speaker 1: four net four overall, that's not a good pick. Pretty
Speaker 1: good player, but not a good pick in that spot.
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, second round, that's a terrible pick, right now,
Speaker 1: Smooth there, around. He's he's a backup D. D. Westbrook
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. He's your third receiver. Right now,
Speaker 1: that's not a bad pick that, but the rest of
Speaker 1: that draft terrible. I mean, okay, but here's the problem.
Speaker 1: Here's where you run into your problems and you're you,
Speaker 1: you're spot on with this. They drafted well in fourteen
Speaker 1: except for Bordles. There's Mark Eastley. You can't count on
Speaker 1: the guy getting hurt. Allen Robinson they let go. Well,
Speaker 1: So that's like I thought about that the other night
Speaker 1: watching Allen Robinson. I did the Bears, the Bears Chicago
Speaker 1: of this Bears Cowboys game, and I'm like, here's a
Speaker 1: number one receiver on a team that went to the
Speaker 1: playoffs last year, is in the wild card hunt right
Speaker 1: now with a okay quarterback. But he's the number one
Speaker 1: guy and is a good player, and we drafted him.
Speaker 1: Did they not offer him something? Though? Before we left?
Speaker 1: I've heard of well, and I've heard all kinds of
Speaker 1: different things, and I don't know what's right or wrong.
Speaker 1: But some people say, and again this is Hearsaye, so
Speaker 1: I'm you know, but we're on a radio show. That's
Speaker 1: what you do, right, What happens here is that he
Speaker 1: didn't want to play with Blake, that he didn't like
Speaker 1: he wanted to go handed up with Blake. Be careful
Speaker 1: what you wish for um now, whether that's true or not,
Speaker 1: but the bottom line is there's a guy that we drafted.
Speaker 1: It's a good player no longer here, but you go
Speaker 1: for the other one, Tony, I'm gonna give you this one.
Speaker 1: This is a perfect example of how you get into trouble.
Speaker 1: They used the second round pick on Jonathan Cyprian in
Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen. They used the fourth round pick
Speaker 1: on James Sample in two thousand and fifteen. When you
Speaker 1: go into two thousand and seventeen, those two are supposed
Speaker 1: to be your starting safeties when you draft him where
Speaker 1: you drafted him, and instead they had to go in
Speaker 1: and spend money on Gibson and Church because they didn't
Speaker 1: have safe because those two guys didn't work out. That's
Speaker 1: how you get into drum. That's exactly right, because the
Speaker 1: guy now sip is is I mean, he's is he
Speaker 1: still at the Eagles pete on this third or four team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sample is not only thing in the league. He got
Speaker 1: hurt early. Remember he was never. I mean, so, I
Speaker 1: mean this is, this is the problem. And now the
Speaker 1: good news is the bad news you have some camp issues,
Speaker 1: but you can fix that. The other piece of bad
Speaker 1: news is you have a lot of holes to fill.
Speaker 1: The good news is you have a lot of drafts
Speaker 1: picks coming up. You have two first rounds first round,
Speaker 1: you have four first rounders in the next two years.
Speaker 1: But you got a hit. And I mean this is
Speaker 1: it's all over the internet. And you know, since Jalen
Speaker 1: has been traded, you know, the Rams have more first
Speaker 1: rounders on their roster than we do. Who's the best
Speaker 1: draft pick of the Kauughlin regime? Um, I would have
Speaker 1: to say d J. Chark. You know who else a
Speaker 1: be from value standpoint? Boy, how great? It doesn't matter people.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna start talking about punters as being our
Speaker 1: best players, we should then just quit. God let's come
Speaker 1: back on that note. We're taking a break. We'll get
Speaker 1: into this Jaguars defense because we must. They they were
Speaker 1: dominated yesterday by the Chargers. Will recap it a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I didn't you know. I think it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where I don't look for that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't. I don't go and search for that,
Speaker 1: you know, I just figured it's it's um. You know,
Speaker 1: I always look at it as a privilege to be
Speaker 1: able to be in a position like this. And you know, eventually,
Speaker 1: if you you know, you don't win enough games and
Speaker 1: they think it's better to go with someone else than
Speaker 1: than obviously, that's that's that's out of my hands. So
Speaker 1: I just keep doing the best job I can and
Speaker 1: just keep fighting. And um, it was one of this
Speaker 1: head coach Jack Marone yesterday after the Jaguars lost to
Speaker 1: the Chargers Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli joining us again. Well you're welcome
Speaker 1: back to you Glad you can make it. Glad you
Speaker 1: can make it back? Are you talking about that's the
Speaker 1: best best two minutes of the shows. When he's not around,
Speaker 1: I was talking wasting to not come into it. I
Speaker 1: almost didn't come. I was talking to your old your
Speaker 1: old times union partner, John Mr Pony to John Oshan,
Speaker 1: Mr Positive and even he can't be positive, he's been
Speaker 1: out of control negative. I mean, how could you not
Speaker 1: be though? Realistically at this before the show. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you how many people were really there? Give me
Speaker 1: a guest of it. Let's see if you and JP agree.
Speaker 1: I thought thirty eight, Oh your your way over where
Speaker 1: JP thought it was. I thought it, be honest, there
Speaker 1: was it was. It was more than it was. Thirty
Speaker 1: eight toty count seats as people now, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: because you have to count all the standing area and
Speaker 1: everything else, because they have a bunch of the bud
Speaker 1: zone that I bet you was. I bet we're gonna
Speaker 1: find out. They'll tell me it was thirty eight forty
Speaker 1: it was. It looked. I'm gonna tell you it looked
Speaker 1: terrible on TV. It was terrible. Let me, doesn't look
Speaker 1: quite look that bad. Yes it does in the stadium
Speaker 1: that holds sixty eight, Yes it does. They had thirty
Speaker 1: eight to forty in that stadium before, and we just
Speaker 1: saw it again talking about I'm I'm leaning more towards
Speaker 1: JP's number. Okay, I'll go find out. Does it really matter? No,
Speaker 1: just I'm not gonna talk about in the air, but
Speaker 1: I'll call Pete after the show. Does it really matter? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I want to fight Pete. I wanna be right
Speaker 1: talking about empty stadiums feed I did Thursday night in
Speaker 1: Atlanta on Thanksgiving. It was half I mean there was
Speaker 1: nobody there. Nobody there and that's usually a rivalry game
Speaker 1: with a lot of Saints fans there. It was empty.
Speaker 1: No do you know who were the only people were
Speaker 1: there were Saints fans. It was louder when the Saints
Speaker 1: did something positive than when the UH Falcons did something positive.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I think the NFL hasn't
Speaker 1: not just the NFL, but I think football has an
Speaker 1: attendance problem. Really, I don't know because you say that
Speaker 1: here why because it's a TV game. Now, Well, but
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You watched Buffalo yesterday. There wasn't a
Speaker 1: seat right when you're winning, aside from when you're really winning,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. So we're like like, like I looked
Speaker 1: at the college football play the playoff games, the championship games.
Speaker 1: There are empty seats almost in every one of them. Well,
Speaker 1: I think even the same man was packed. It's packed.
Speaker 1: The problem with those is it's last minute and you
Speaker 1: have to get in. Like in Northern California, which is
Speaker 1: not a rich you know, uh, a rich college football
Speaker 1: tradition place you have to get the home teams to
Speaker 1: travel on a Friday night with five days notice, six
Speaker 1: days notice. So it's hard, Like I get I'll bet
Speaker 1: you anything, Pete. Next year when they start the Pack
Speaker 1: twelve Championships in Vegas, I bet you that place is
Speaker 1: packed because it's easier to get to from California. It's
Speaker 1: easy to get there. It's there's get there. They'll have
Speaker 1: an easy way to get there. That's gonna be easy
Speaker 1: for that next year. But now also and like like
Speaker 1: if you look at the NFL, I did Thursday nights
Speaker 1: every week obviously, like what did you do last you
Speaker 1: did the game last week? Yeah, where was that camera? Oh, Chicago,
Speaker 1: Chicago packed? Yea, when Cleveland when they were four and
Speaker 1: six packed. Now Houston, Houston colts to for for first
Speaker 1: place three quarters, it was like empty seats everywhere kickoff.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's weird. It's weird. The legacy teams
Speaker 1: will sell their seats, the newer teams might not. But
Speaker 1: you look at last night, the generations of fans built up. Well,
Speaker 1: you say that Seattle is packed every week? The rams
Speaker 1: last night in l A. Do you see that it
Speaker 1: was packed? Was it packed? Yes? It looked like it
Speaker 1: was packed. Well, the TV shots of the lower part
Speaker 1: look packed. I didn't see the higher part. And I
Speaker 1: bet you there were a bunch of Seattle fans in
Speaker 1: there too. But like, so you're I'm not saying you're wrong, Pete.
Speaker 1: Like there's a handful of markets that like wow, that's
Speaker 1: if you're not winning. Like yeah, Like Arizona is one
Speaker 1: of those markets. When they win, they sell out. Yesterday
Speaker 1: they had they were full of Steeler fans. So my
Speaker 1: buddy went to My buddy who's a Steeler fan, went
Speaker 1: to that game. I talked to him today. He says
Speaker 1: eighty of the fans in Arizona were Steeler fans. He says,
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. It was incredible. I
Speaker 1: just you know, and judicial that has to be concerning
Speaker 1: two shod when you look up and you see that
Speaker 1: many empty seats, because you know, as you know, it's
Speaker 1: not just the revenue, it's the it's it's not just
Speaker 1: the ticket, it's it's it's the good sessions, the parking,
Speaker 1: all of it. So now it means such a great
Speaker 1: product on TV. Obviously you know that affects it a
Speaker 1: little bit. But I think the biggest thing that affects
Speaker 1: it is when you don't win, you can't blame the fans.
Speaker 1: I can't blame the fans for not going. I think
Speaker 1: I heard you say on the radio this morning there
Speaker 1: were no charge of fans because they don't have any.
Speaker 1: It was it was a bad It was bad. There
Speaker 1: was no juice in the stadium and all yesterday, which
Speaker 1: that's about the third or fourth time you had that
Speaker 1: this year too, by the way. It was. It was
Speaker 1: just but the team doesn't do anything to bring it out.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you lose five straight by seventeen plus points,
Speaker 1: and if you look at the average, it's they are
Speaker 1: losing by an average of more than twenty points. They're
Speaker 1: losing by more than twenty points a game for five
Speaker 1: straight games. Who how many people will be there for
Speaker 1: the finale? Friends and family? It's Christmas weekend, right, It's
Speaker 1: the week after Yeah, a holiday week though. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: the only thing that could save that game is it's
Speaker 1: the last time you get to see a team until next,
Speaker 1: you know, summer. So well, I think I think the
Speaker 1: fans are so upset right now here that they're ready
Speaker 1: to say we'll see you next summer. I I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I think this is as angry a fan
Speaker 1: base as I've seen since I live there and covered
Speaker 1: that team. It's the worst. And the reason I say
Speaker 1: that is the young kids that were young when you
Speaker 1: guys were playing Tony. They're the die hards. Now those
Speaker 1: guys are tired of it. They're tired of it and
Speaker 1: their vocal and they're tired of it. And like my
Speaker 1: boys are huge Jack fans, and they wore me out
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday. I'm like, listen, don't like. I
Speaker 1: don't need to be yelled at by you. It's like,
Speaker 1: get it. Tell them to send into something on Twitter.
Speaker 1: In question, we'll get ready. No, no, no, they're yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well if they want their car pay, if they want
Speaker 1: their car payment made, and they want rent paid, they
Speaker 1: will not do anything like that. Sell boys, let's get
Speaker 1: this one. Remember one year when his daughter called in,
Speaker 1: Remember that Pete a couple of years ago. Boys saw
Speaker 1: the girls can call in. They're very nice, they're kind
Speaker 1: their dad, they love their dads. I want I want
Speaker 1: the mean chip off the old block Passelly boys to
Speaker 1: give us a little question or two, because you know
Speaker 1: they got an attitude. Is there anything like you. They
Speaker 1: have an attitude. Yeah, I don't have. I think I'm
Speaker 1: very I'm very kind of. I'm kind, mellow, mellow, even demeanor.
Speaker 1: Even on this show. I can promise you you never
Speaker 1: get your ever raised. You're just calm and collected. Ever
Speaker 1: get bothered by anything. Pete never bothers you. Unbelievable back
Speaker 1: in a moment. We'll get to you when we talk defense.
Speaker 1: We got back. That'll test by even keeled in defense.
Speaker 1: There is no d It's been bad and it got
Speaker 1: worse yesterday, and we'll get to it when we come back.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say, you know, I don't see.
Speaker 1: I mean, we got whipped, you know, I mean, simple
Speaker 1: as that. And I don't know, I mean I feel
Speaker 1: like I ain't doing enough, you know, I didn't you know,
Speaker 1: making the players to give us a chance, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, I mean prepare hard, you know, doing everything
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do, and then we're go out there
Speaker 1: and it's just, you know, there's a transition on the
Speaker 1: football field. It's tough for love because you know, we
Speaker 1: got a lot of pride other plays. Guy, you know,
Speaker 1: I remember I took a big shot today. That that
Speaker 1: one hurt. You know, I'm you know, it feels worse
Speaker 1: than other ones, you know. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to say. Class Campbell, Jaguars defensive lineman after the
Speaker 1: game yesterday. Jaguars defense ruggled. What they lacked in run defense,
Speaker 1: they made up floor by not being able to stop
Speaker 1: the pass either, and they struggled all day long. Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: who had the highest passerad again his sixteen year career yesterday. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean here's the thing, Like, it wasn't like Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers was great. We were just bad. Like a lot
Speaker 1: of that goes like Austin Ekeler catching a wide receiver
Speaker 1: screen and taking it seventy five yards on third and ten.
Speaker 1: And so it's not like I sat there and watched
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers like, oh he was amazing. It's him hitting
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry down the sideline when no one's thirty five
Speaker 1: yards within him. I mean that wasn't like great quarterback play.
Speaker 1: That was just bad defense. I mean that is guys
Speaker 1: not doing their job. That's guys being lost in the
Speaker 1: back half through a dime. The hunter headed you for
Speaker 1: about thirty five yards that was dropped. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he played bad. I'm just saying I attribute
Speaker 1: that more. I would just I would just say, like
Speaker 1: that's like more on bad defense, then you know great
Speaker 1: quarterback play. I mean those are guys, I mean those
Speaker 1: are simple plays that we did not defend. Who's responsible
Speaker 1: on that play? Right there? Can you tell it's the linebackers?
Speaker 1: It's either and it was, it's it's a sneak rout.
Speaker 1: It's a naked blue leg right, They're gonna sneak the
Speaker 1: hunter Henry out. And literally you have both uh Quincy
Speaker 1: Williams and and uh Donald Penny chasing ghosts like there's
Speaker 1: no one over there there at what on that play
Speaker 1: there were three or four Jags in the right side
Speaker 1: of the field with not one charger, not one charger
Speaker 1: with it from the hash to the sideline on outside
Speaker 1: of the field. Everyone else was on the back side
Speaker 1: and there was no Jaguars on that back side. Ye
Speaker 1: look at this, there's where are we going? Mhm? I
Speaker 1: mean it was. And I want to be careful here
Speaker 1: because I do want I mean, it's so easy just
Speaker 1: to be so critical and and you know, fire this guy,
Speaker 1: fire this guy whatever. And I get I've been in
Speaker 1: these situations as a player where it's just miserable and
Speaker 1: it's going the wrong way. I've never been a team
Speaker 1: that's lost by this margin this you know, many games
Speaker 1: in a row, but immitted situation where it's just going
Speaker 1: against you and it feels like you're digging a hole
Speaker 1: and you just can't get out. But when I saw
Speaker 1: on tape and the performance of our back half, and
Speaker 1: I'll just stick with the linebackers I've I don't know
Speaker 1: if I've ever seen anything like that in the NFL
Speaker 1: from an assignment standpoint, from just a recognition in doing
Speaker 1: your job. It's like, I mean, what are you doing
Speaker 1: all week? Well? And again, wasn't that the criticism of
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams earlier this season? That's why I got set down.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, listen, let's talk about Quincy Williams.
Speaker 1: I actually think Quincy Williams one day could be a
Speaker 1: like a solid pro, maybe a good He's got the
Speaker 1: speed in the ability to become a solid pro. The
Speaker 1: guy was playing nickel corner last year in Division one
Speaker 1: Double A college football. Like the fact that we think
Speaker 1: that like as a five ten, fast linebacker who's not
Speaker 1: afraid to hit, but has never played the position, played
Speaker 1: a different completely position in college, whether you want of
Speaker 1: them calling the nickel or a safety whatever, And then
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring him up and playing and asked him
Speaker 1: to start at will linebacker for US. I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: He clearly he only played thirty five snaps yesterday because
Speaker 1: he got benched at halftime because it was so bad
Speaker 1: they I mean, really it was so bad. He was
Speaker 1: he was lost back there. And not only that, and
Speaker 1: then Donald Payne. I mean, he's a guy. He tries hard,
Speaker 1: he works hard, had a good game last week. He
Speaker 1: had a good game in the run game last week.
Speaker 1: But in the week but he's but he's not He's
Speaker 1: a he's not a big man, like you're your two linebackers,
Speaker 1: like our five ten each eleven, maybe Donald Payne is
Speaker 1: and they get overwhelmed, and then you're gonna ask Donald
Speaker 1: paying I mean, it's just it's it is. And then
Speaker 1: he come off the bench with Caltro. Who else you
Speaker 1: can applay Pete what I'm saying, there's nothing. There's nothing
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through. I'm gonna go through the PF
Speaker 1: grades don't even I don't even care they're bad. I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I want to hear Jones played good. Abrey, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought a played well. Abrey is a solid player.
Speaker 1: Like Abrey to me is if you can get if
Speaker 1: you can ask him to do what he did in seventeen,
Speaker 1: which is a rotational player. Like he's a good, solid
Speaker 1: football player, Like he's a guy like you you can
Speaker 1: win with with him on your team. They said Brian
Speaker 1: was okay in the pass rush and negative in the
Speaker 1: run defense. Yeah, yeah, nothing, Klais and Unique got positive
Speaker 1: grades and pass rush. Would you say yes? I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess is that a good twist game sack? He
Speaker 1: got a little bit pressure. I don't remember Yawn doing
Speaker 1: a lot. He got a couple of hits, but not
Speaker 1: fairnessy on that. You know, Philip gets rid of the
Speaker 1: ball quick, so it's always tough to get to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and the two linebackers got terrible terrible grades. What
Speaker 1: we're what we're plays is in Yond's grade in the
Speaker 1: run uh negative for Jahn and slightly above for Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Okay, everybody else dot pay except
Speaker 1: for Wilson. Like there's another guy. I think Jared Wilson
Speaker 1: is a solid like if he was your special team's
Speaker 1: guy and was your third safety or maybe your second safety,
Speaker 1: if he had a stud number one safety back there,
Speaker 1: like Jared Wilson is like a guy shows up, works hard,
Speaker 1: like he's a solid guy, like if he has if
Speaker 1: he has it, like Ed read next to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: may be fine. They gave up five yards to the Chargers.
Speaker 1: It's an F. No, No, it's not an F. It's
Speaker 1: an F minus. It's terrible. They they set Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: down after three quarters. That never happens in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Like this is this is a game, like if you
Speaker 1: want to equate it to grades in school, like you
Speaker 1: just took a class and a bunch of classes in
Speaker 1: this semester and it was so bad that the dean
Speaker 1: of the school called you in and said, listen, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to ask you to leave. We need you
Speaker 1: to withdraw like you. We don't want you a part
Speaker 1: of our university any longer. Tody, can I ask you
Speaker 1: a question now? Seriously, this is dead serious question. There's
Speaker 1: gotta be a way to figure out maybe this regime
Speaker 1: has gone so it's not gonna matter. Josh Allen should
Speaker 1: be on the field more than thirty six maps. I
Speaker 1: would be playing Josh Allen a lot more. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, Pete. I'm not sure what the rotation is
Speaker 1: there um if nothing else, just to get him reps
Speaker 1: to get him better for get him ready for next year.
Speaker 1: Like Josh Allen is a big, strong guy. He needs
Speaker 1: to he needs to work on his pass rush. He
Speaker 1: needs more reps at the pass for us. He's not
Speaker 1: because he's not natural at it. He uses his his
Speaker 1: athletic ability to strength and everything else. He's a good
Speaker 1: run defender like I would play Josh Allen Moore as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me run down the defense real quick. Tell me
Speaker 1: who's starting next year, Avery Jones. No, here's a better question.
Speaker 1: Why don't you go through and tell me in which
Speaker 1: one of these guys are NFL starters in the league. Okay,
Speaker 1: Avery Jones. I think a Abrey is a starting next
Speaker 1: year for this team, and I think he's a rotational
Speaker 1: player on most teams. Like he's he's playing, he's playing.
Speaker 1: Tavin Bryant has gotten better this I'll give him credit.
Speaker 1: He has gotten better this year. He is strong, he's explosive.
Speaker 1: He is not an instinctual player. He should be a backup.
Speaker 1: He should be the you know, he should be your
Speaker 1: second three that can make and help Tolais Campbell for
Speaker 1: the right price based on I mean, you can't pay
Speaker 1: him with his number is next year. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Claiss wants to do. But if Clais was playing,
Speaker 1: you know, again, your big end, a rotational guy, he's
Speaker 1: your starting end. But he's gonna play, you know, of
Speaker 1: sixty five snaps. He's gonna play thirty thirty five. Like
Speaker 1: Clays is still productive. He's you know, he's getting older.
Speaker 1: I think when he gets tired. He's on the ground
Speaker 1: a lot at times, but he is still um. I
Speaker 1: think he you know, for the right price, but you
Speaker 1: can't pay him, you know, fifteen million bucks. Ye, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good pass rusher. I still don't think Jan
Speaker 1: has been playing the run great. And I think that
Speaker 1: is a question you have to ask yourself when the
Speaker 1: style of defense you're gonna play. Can Yon be your
Speaker 1: every down player? What's tell the defense is gonna play?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who's gonna be here,
Speaker 1: like a Ti n and Allen be standing up both
Speaker 1: on the field at the same time. I think I
Speaker 1: think uh Alan can play a defensive end or you
Speaker 1: can play an outside linebacker, you know, in a three
Speaker 1: or four type of style. I mean he's that, he's
Speaker 1: an athletic, he's big. I think Yahn could maybe be
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker to three four. He's a good pass rusher,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. The guy can rush the passer.
Speaker 1: But being a defensive end on and every down, like,
Speaker 1: you really have to scheme him if you're the defensive coordina,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play it for three right Quincy Williams
Speaker 1: and Donald Payne, No, I think Trey would be. He
Speaker 1: is a pro, works his tail off. I think you
Speaker 1: in the perfect world, he's your fourth corner. Jared Wilson.
Speaker 1: We already talked about him. Way to guard. No. No
Speaker 1: a J boy A J. I don't think he's playing
Speaker 1: very well right now. No, he's not. He had a
Speaker 1: bad game yesterday. And DJ Hayden. D J Hayden is
Speaker 1: a very good knuckle tough He is a pro. I
Speaker 1: mean he were he you want him on your team.
Speaker 1: I think he's your starting nickel next year. Now. The
Speaker 1: rest of these guys, Smooth Spence, Jacobs, Calitro, Gilt Crust,
Speaker 1: that's nothing. We just pete. This is I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: like in fairness to everyone, I'm sure people listening to
Speaker 1: this and if you know, I'm probably not the most popular,
Speaker 1: you know. Opinion right now, I'm giving and maybe I'm
Speaker 1: too close to it, but I watch a lot of football.
Speaker 1: I watched tape up every team doing the national games,
Speaker 1: and I'm just telling you this is what I see.
Speaker 1: Let's come back. We'll get into the offense. And Pete,
Speaker 1: I know you've been waiting on draft talk. Well, the
Speaker 1: way to the weight is into that. For the last
Speaker 1: six weeks with this team, the weight is over the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Do you know it's bad when I'm willing to talk
Speaker 1: draft and there's still three games ago. This is Jaguars
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Speaker 1: cut out Gardner mins you the second Jaguars quarterback back
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup yesterday, Jafrew Shadrick, Tony ROSELLI. We'll
Speaker 1: get back with Pete Prisco in just a few minutes.
Speaker 1: The UM, we've covered the defense, let's touch on the offense.
Speaker 1: The big change yesterday. Of course, Gardner meant you back
Speaker 1: in the lineup. They had a fourteen play drive to
Speaker 1: open the game with a field goal at the end
Speaker 1: three nothing Jags, and then it didn't really look great
Speaker 1: after that on offense, well and we talked about it.
Speaker 1: This team struggled all year with the red zone production,
Speaker 1: the thirty one in the NFL right now in converting
Speaker 1: touchdowns once inside the tent. You know, I mean, Gardners
Speaker 1: a rookie, and if you judged him based on saying
Speaker 1: this is like, this is like because he's played so
Speaker 1: much football now for us, Like if you would have said,
Speaker 1: if you would have picked Gardner Minshew in the first round,
Speaker 1: if he was like with the Daniel Jones or the
Speaker 1: you know, the Haskins and that group Comrie, and you said,
Speaker 1: we took this guy at the end of the fir
Speaker 1: let's say, early second or whatever, and you were getting
Speaker 1: this type production where he won four games for you.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been Rookie of the Month, Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Week several times. You'd be like, hey, we got
Speaker 1: a guy who's progressing, and like we have a chance
Speaker 1: with our this quarterback. And so you have to try
Speaker 1: to keep that in mind. And I think overall, I
Speaker 1: don't think Gardner miss you have a great game last
Speaker 1: yesterday watching the film, I think he missed some stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit quick in the pocket
Speaker 1: at times, but he's a rookie. Now, I think Gardner
Speaker 1: Mitshow is gonna get better. I think Gardner Mitshow is
Speaker 1: really smart. I think he'll learn to see things better
Speaker 1: because he's a smart football player and and that's the
Speaker 1: typical progression. He's a you know, a good athlete. He
Speaker 1: has movement skills. Like my only question of Gardner minsho
Speaker 1: is his arm strong enough to make all the throws
Speaker 1: in the NFL? And especially when you're like you're under pressure,
Speaker 1: can he you know, make the off balance throws that
Speaker 1: are down the field? Can he drive it on the
Speaker 1: field because one thing we didn't see yesterday wouldn't drive
Speaker 1: anything down the field. Now, I'm not saying that's because
Speaker 1: of Gardner Minshew. Maybe it wasn't called. But that's the
Speaker 1: only question with Gardner Minshew. But overall, if you look
Speaker 1: at it as a rookie like Gardner minshew' hav in
Speaker 1: a fine year, he's not the problem. Pe Priss go
Speaker 1: back with us now down in South Florida. But Tony
Speaker 1: there too. He's too quick to get out of the pocket. Pete,
Speaker 1: I just said the same thing. My point was this though,
Speaker 1: and I don't think you're on the line yet. If
Speaker 1: you would have drafted Gardner Mintshew in the first round,
Speaker 1: so let's say he was part of the Haskins and
Speaker 1: and so you have like when you draft the guy
Speaker 1: in the first round or even early second, like you
Speaker 1: feel better about him at the start because like you're saying,
Speaker 1: this is our guy, and so he has a longer rope,
Speaker 1: and what you see you always believe the best in.
Speaker 1: That's human nature. Because you picked as your guy like
Speaker 1: his year this year, you'd be like, hey, it's a
Speaker 1: good solid year for a rookie. He's been offensive player
Speaker 1: of the month, offensive player of the week several times,
Speaker 1: won four game games. Like he's progressing, like like you,
Speaker 1: but like, but he's a rookie. So you'd be like,
Speaker 1: all right, we have a chance with this guy because
Speaker 1: he's gonna grow and progress. And I think Gardner smart,
Speaker 1: and I think he has a chance. And I do
Speaker 1: think he leaves a pocket a little bit early right now.
Speaker 1: I don't think he sees it all the time. But
Speaker 1: what rookie does, Pete, they don't. You're right, And so
Speaker 1: the only question Garter mit you, in my mind, is
Speaker 1: his arm strong enough? And can you get a little
Speaker 1: bit stronger? Drew brees On got stronger as he got older.
Speaker 1: That was a question about Drew brees when he came
Speaker 1: at up for two. Was his arm strong enough? But
Speaker 1: there were things yesterday that made me start to question
Speaker 1: whether he could be the long term guy. And what
Speaker 1: was that, Pete Well, more of the pocket, dilly dally
Speaker 1: and spinning around when there was pressure. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna press you on this and this is why. Because
Speaker 1: there was a guy two years ago that was picked
Speaker 1: that you thought was the best quarterback in the draft
Speaker 1: named Josh A one correct and after his rookie year
Speaker 1: a lot of people said he can't do it. And
Speaker 1: early this year people were questioning can he be the guy?
Speaker 1: And the reason they questioned it because it does he
Speaker 1: see it and he gets out of the pocket way
Speaker 1: too fast when he doesn't. What's the difference, Pete, Well,
Speaker 1: he's a good runner for one, But I agree with you.
Speaker 1: But men, she's a pretty good runner. Okay. But here's
Speaker 1: the reason. Josh Allen did it in Buffalo in large
Speaker 1: party because he was a rookie, but be because his
Speaker 1: line was terrible. This was I don't know if you
Speaker 1: want well, it's not playing very well. Right now, very
Speaker 1: good right now. But but okay, I'm gonna ask you this,
Speaker 1: because you're the defender of all lines. Is this line
Speaker 1: bad right now? Um? It's not good. It's not playing
Speaker 1: good now across the board. Yeah, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: they're not I mean, I don't think it's a bad
Speaker 1: I'd say it's an average offensive line. Right now. You
Speaker 1: might be kind Okay, maybe i'm I'm I'm probably being
Speaker 1: nicer than I need to be, But I'll say average.
Speaker 1: You're always nicer to like the only reason Josh Allen
Speaker 1: got more like you felt like that about Josh Allen
Speaker 1: there's two reasons. One is he was a first rounder
Speaker 1: and you loved him coming out. You didn't love Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1: And two he has a rocket arm. I give him that.
Speaker 1: And he's big. He's big. All right, we'll continue this discussion.
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Speaker 1: P Shadrick Tony was silly, Pete Priscoe, glad you're along
Speaker 1: with us. Put it to get to of course, today
Speaker 1: we've covered the defense. And by the way, I heard
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Speaker 1: tackle at the cheap shot, at the low blow. It's funny,
Speaker 1: though I'm not laughing right, are we laughing? No, I'm crying.
Speaker 1: I'm crying. We've touched on the offense a little bit,
Speaker 1: not a lot today, but it's mainly the defensive we
Speaker 1: talked about. We've talked about the line a little bit,
Speaker 1: talked about Gardner Minshew. I mean, do you disagree with
Speaker 1: my my point about Gardner minshewn? Menh's been fine. It
Speaker 1: just I still have my reservations about and you said
Speaker 1: it this morning on the show. Should they draft a quarterback?
Speaker 1: I mean that's gonna be an issue. Well in and
Speaker 1: just so for those who don't listen to the award
Speaker 1: winning Breakfast of Basel. It's won many awards throughout the
Speaker 1: throughout the country. What kind of awards, well, the many,
Speaker 1: just the many, many many of them. Um Is, you
Speaker 1: don't buy that. Go ahead, You didn't win any awards,
Speaker 1: but go ahead. Oh maybe maybe that was just my
Speaker 1: daughter and give me one. No, not Angie, she's not
Speaker 1: a fan. Um Is. I said that. They were talking
Speaker 1: about like who do you draft? So you have two
Speaker 1: draft picks and I said, it depends on where are
Speaker 1: you draft? And they said, would you draft a quarterback?
Speaker 1: And I said, well, you're gonna absolutely do your homework
Speaker 1: and if you're like if you if you were drafted
Speaker 1: number two and you do your homework. In the Bengals
Speaker 1: passed on Joe Burrows. I'm just using his name. I've
Speaker 1: only watched two games, but he's the number one guy
Speaker 1: right now and everyone's board and you have him rated
Speaker 1: as a franchise quarterback who's a starter, all pro level
Speaker 1: guy who can take you to the super Bowl. Heck yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm taking them because I'm not convinced that I have
Speaker 1: that right now. You probably don't, and so but I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's that guy. But I'm also understood.
Speaker 1: I've said it multiple times. Pete and I've talked about this,
Speaker 1: like you have to have in the NFL. You have
Speaker 1: to have the guy who's, you know, calling the signals
Speaker 1: and pulling the trigger. He doesn't have to be top five,
Speaker 1: but he has to be in the upper half of
Speaker 1: the NFL that can win the game when it when
Speaker 1: you need him to. I'm talking about the quarterback. After that,
Speaker 1: you need big people and I and it starts with
Speaker 1: your defense and offensive lines. After that, you need to
Speaker 1: corner will be the next highest and where you look
Speaker 1: at this team right now, you need some linebackers. But
Speaker 1: you gotta start with the big people. You gotta solidify
Speaker 1: the offensive defensive lines. And I'm only adding linebackers in there.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'd use the first you know, the
Speaker 1: first first rounder on him unless you know, unless you
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Ray Lewis. But he was a
Speaker 1: late first rounder. But you need guys in the linebacker
Speaker 1: position right now because you don't have anyone. You do
Speaker 1: not have a high end linebacker. Now, maybe Myles can
Speaker 1: come back from injury. Maybe this is the year was
Speaker 1: an aberration. He's had a bad year. Who knows, maybe
Speaker 1: if you move the Will, he's better. I don't know
Speaker 1: any of that. You never played will. I I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I'm just making out, putting out scenarios out there.
Speaker 1: But regardless, you need linebackers on this team. But you
Speaker 1: watch you watch the forty Niners, right and then they
Speaker 1: granted they didn't have a good defensive game Sunday, but
Speaker 1: their linebackers Warner you can fly and they found him
Speaker 1: from b y U and the kid. They remember Quaxander.
Speaker 1: They paid but he got hurt and they're playing Dak
Speaker 1: Greenlaw and linebacker. He's a blown up safety and they
Speaker 1: run to the football, and they get to the football.
Speaker 1: Then you look around. Like other teams they find linebackers
Speaker 1: in the third, fourth, and fifth round. That's where you
Speaker 1: find those guys. I'm not yeah, I'm not saying. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I would pick one of those in the
Speaker 1: first I'm just saying in the draft, you need to
Speaker 1: address linebacker this year less you have a special guy,
Speaker 1: unless you see a special guy like like the Bucks drafted. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gon ask you this, Devon White, Devon White, would
Speaker 1: you have taken him? And that I wouldn't have I
Speaker 1: don't think the value is there in the top ten though,
Speaker 1: pretty good against the Jags last week. No, he's a
Speaker 1: very good player. A touchdown and a fumble recovery. He's
Speaker 1: a great player. I'm not saying that, but they mistaken
Speaker 1: they passed on No. Yeah, they passed on Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and take him. I don't know where would they picked
Speaker 1: me for us or after us? I don't remember before him,
Speaker 1: and I think they passed on him. You don't pass
Speaker 1: on a pass rusher to take a lineback. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, But I'm with you, Tony I'm an agreement
Speaker 1: with you. We've had guys that we have guys at
Speaker 1: our place that do mock drafts every week, and they
Speaker 1: put a receiver in there one day and I told him,
Speaker 1: I said, no, no, no, no, big and big yeah.
Speaker 1: And or if you find a corner, if you if
Speaker 1: you see a guy that's a shut down corner. And
Speaker 1: let's say you're picking um four or five or six
Speaker 1: wherever we end up picking, and the highest rated player
Speaker 1: and he's higher than any of the big people is
Speaker 1: a shutdown corner. Okay, I'm fine with that. But need
Speaker 1: but you need big people on this team, and you
Speaker 1: need big Your defensive line is there's no depth in
Speaker 1: You're You're still you're. Here's the thing. Your best defensive
Speaker 1: lignment is still a clay As Campbell and he's aging
Speaker 1: and so you have you know this, Tonty. Aside from
Speaker 1: just big people, big people, the franchise is the way
Speaker 1: the game is played. Now are built quarterback. Guy who
Speaker 1: knocks the quarterback down, guy who protects the quarterback, the
Speaker 1: guy who knocks the quarterbacks passes down. And now it's
Speaker 1: a five pronged approach because you gotta have a big
Speaker 1: play receiver. So if you look at Jaguars, do they
Speaker 1: have a quarterback position solved? No, they have the left
Speaker 1: tackle position solved? Mm hmm. No, do they have the
Speaker 1: pass rushing position solved? Maybe? Do they have the corner
Speaker 1: position solved? Do they have the bigg play receiver position solved?
Speaker 1: That one I give him with the chart. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's going out of those five spots. One is chart yes. Two,
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen is what you think he is and
Speaker 1: then god Way comes back, then yes. But other than
Speaker 1: that the other three no, absolute nos. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it's not just I mean, let's I want to
Speaker 1: make sure to me, it is not just the pass
Speaker 1: rusher on the defensive line. You have to be able
Speaker 1: to stop the run. I have to. You have to
Speaker 1: in this league. And I will argue to the end
Speaker 1: of time. I know it's a passing league, but you
Speaker 1: have to run the ball in this league. You go
Speaker 1: look at the the go look at the teams. You're
Speaker 1: good this year. The Ravens they run the ball, not
Speaker 1: just with Lamar Jackson, Yes, he's a big part of it.
Speaker 1: They have a good offensive line and they have good backs.
Speaker 1: The San Francisco forty Niners. They run the ball. Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan his whole offense and all the geniusness that everyone
Speaker 1: says how greaty he was. It was no different when
Speaker 1: they had Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and Snow. That
Speaker 1: team was built on running the ball inside outside zone.
Speaker 1: That's what they did. They ran it with Tevin Coleman
Speaker 1: and Freeman. If you go look at the uh uh.
Speaker 1: If you go look at the Saints, the Saints and
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, they run the ball. So the common thing
Speaker 1: of those teams so it is that they have the
Speaker 1: threat and the ability to throw it too. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you can't just be a one dimensional team. That's
Speaker 1: what this team was. Jp you're not listening. I started
Speaker 1: this whole conversation. You have to have a quarterback, Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, bait Blake Bortles couldn't throw the ball,
Speaker 1: so there was no threat, right, So so that's a given.
Speaker 1: But you have to be able to run the ball
Speaker 1: and you have to stop the run. You have to
Speaker 1: because you can't get the passing situations if you don't
Speaker 1: stop the run. So the pass ruser is useless if
Speaker 1: you can't stop the run. And Tony. But one one
Speaker 1: thing that's you see two is a lot of times
Speaker 1: you'll find a guy and hit on him as a
Speaker 1: run stopper. We've seen that play out over the course
Speaker 1: of this you know what I mean, Like a guy
Speaker 1: who didn't quite work out bulks up and he becomes
Speaker 1: a run stopper. I'm gonna give you a perfect example.
Speaker 1: Mike Purcell, who's playing in Denver right now. Scrappet pick up,
Speaker 1: bulked up. Now he's one of the better run stuffers
Speaker 1: in the league. You remember guys back in the day
Speaker 1: that used to do that. We used to see what
Speaker 1: the guy from Buffalo that did that, bulked up to
Speaker 1: about three Pat william Not Pat Williams, but Williams. Remember
Speaker 1: those guys they did They find him in like the
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round, they fail at someplace, bulk up
Speaker 1: and become a big time run stopper. The Jaguars don't
Speaker 1: have a big time run stuff like that. And here's
Speaker 1: the thing. If you're gonna run the ball, you have
Speaker 1: to decide what kind of running team you want to be.
Speaker 1: Like we've been saying this, like Leonard four Nett is
Speaker 1: a good downhill gap scheme runner, he's not an outside
Speaker 1: zone inside zone guy. He's for sure on outside zone.
Speaker 1: And so like he's effective, like he's having a good year.
Speaker 1: He's a good player. But you have to build your
Speaker 1: offense based on your personnel, and so if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have him, you better have a big, physical offensive line.
Speaker 1: You better have a blocking tight end, you better have
Speaker 1: a fullback. We have no blocking tight end. We have
Speaker 1: no fullback. Have you done Denver at all this year
Speaker 1: other than the game you guys did, Yes, I did
Speaker 1: him against uh Kansas City? All right, David a linebacker
Speaker 1: name Advander Johnson's yea free agent? Well, the merch is
Speaker 1: a pretty good player. Yeah, But Pete, there's history there
Speaker 1: why he was a free agent. I know. But he's
Speaker 1: a good player. I'm just saying, but there's risk there.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's I'm just saying there's there's more
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get into exactly, but there's
Speaker 1: a backstory there that there's some risk with it. But
Speaker 1: Tamorrio Davis perfect example, third round pick of the Jets.
Speaker 1: They trade, He's fantastic for the great I'm not Pete.
Speaker 1: I never said draft a linebacker in the first round. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you have to address Yes, you have
Speaker 1: to address it. But this game, this game, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, at the end of time, the
Speaker 1: teams who can run the ball and stop the run
Speaker 1: win as long as you have a quarterback like go
Speaker 1: tell me the go tell me the great receivers that
Speaker 1: the forty Niners have, Emmanuel Sanders is coming from Achilles Tendon.
Speaker 1: Have guys, they have good guys. They're solid, good players.
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuels is emerging as a pretty good player. No, pete,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're they're good, but they're not. They're
Speaker 1: not Julio Jones, Odell Beckham and DeAndre Hopkins and a J. Green.
Speaker 1: They're just good players. But they can protect the quarterback,
Speaker 1: they can run the ball, and they have a quarterback
Speaker 1: who can operate in win games. Well, the latest Monck draft,
Speaker 1: one of the latest mock drafts I see, has the
Speaker 1: Jaguars taken Isaiah Simmons from Clemson, who's a linebacker. I
Speaker 1: can't see that happening. And that, first of all, these
Speaker 1: these mock drafts are stupid. Right now will change fifteen times.
Speaker 1: Some of these guys in the first ten picks won't
Speaker 1: even get drafted the fourth round and then they had
Speaker 1: and then the second first round. Think about this, Toney,
Speaker 1: how much would you go they have them taken? Well,
Speaker 1: they have a cornerback and then you know the kid
Speaker 1: from Alabama digs JP. Yeah, but do you disagree? I
Speaker 1: mean that's the formula. Like you look, you gotta build,
Speaker 1: you gotta get big people. You have to like I
Speaker 1: love like the Saints. Everyone talks about the Saints. You know,
Speaker 1: the Saints had the high who was either highest or
Speaker 1: second highest run percentage in the NFL last year With
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Michael Thomas and all the weapons, they
Speaker 1: ran the ball. Sean Payton one of the smartest coaches
Speaker 1: in the NFL, one of the best play callers. He understands,
Speaker 1: you better be able to run the ball, better control
Speaker 1: the ball when you need to run the ball. That's it.
Speaker 1: You don't have to run the ball just to run
Speaker 1: the ball. No, no, But sometimes people say, oh, you
Speaker 1: gotta run up. You have to run the ball when
Speaker 1: you need to run the ball. Let's come back in
Speaker 1: a moment, shall he Social media questions, Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: want to say one more thing about what Pete just said.
Speaker 1: The Rams made a change on the right side of
Speaker 1: their offensive line. They were actually the whole line besides Whitworth.
Speaker 1: They were struggling. The reason they weren't scoring points is
Speaker 1: why Pete. They couldn't run the ball at all, and
Speaker 1: it's affected the entire passing game. They're now running the
Speaker 1: ball of Girley, they're blocking people, they're protecting it takes,
Speaker 1: it slows down a pass rush, and now they're throwing
Speaker 1: the ball and scoring points. It's not that hard, simple game.
Speaker 1: Simple game. We we complicated because everyone's getting enamored with
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Speaker 1: Just that every week, you know, especially on a loose
Speaker 1: string now right now, you know it's just on that. Uh,
Speaker 1: you gotta restart from start and come back with a
Speaker 1: positive energy and a positive mentality, you know. And it's hard,
Speaker 1: you know, especially having the same results that we are
Speaker 1: that we have Leonard for that. After the game yesterday
Speaker 1: the Jags lost to the Chargers, j P Shadrick, Tony
Speaker 1: was Selly, Pete Priscoe Jaguars Happy Hour continues. It's not
Speaker 1: very happy right now. We might need to change the
Speaker 1: name of the show. Somebody suggested Jaguar's Sad Hour. That's
Speaker 1: really creative. Thanks be. Drinks might be served at some
Speaker 1: happy hour down the I didn't. I didn't suggest that.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what somebody on Twitter suggests. Let's speaking
Speaker 1: of people. We're gonna go to Twitter and one second,
Speaker 1: thirty seconds to make one last point. Just can't wait
Speaker 1: to hammer the point I was trying to make before
Speaker 1: because JP brought up the point and he's not wrong
Speaker 1: that you have to be able to throw the ball
Speaker 1: to threaten, to be able to have the threat of
Speaker 1: the throw that run the ball. I agree with the
Speaker 1: most part, and I'll give it a perfect example. Everyone
Speaker 1: says you need receivers, you need the quarterback, and all
Speaker 1: the all these pretty toys. I like pretty toys, I do,
Speaker 1: and I think the quarterback is the one again position
Speaker 1: you have to have solidified. The Atlanta Falcons are one
Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the see they have Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: top ten pick when the highest paid receivers, they's not
Speaker 1: the highest paid receiver in football. They have Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 1: first round pick. They have uh Hooper Deondi Freeman running back.
Speaker 1: They have Matt Ryan, one of the highest paid players
Speaker 1: in his positions. They have Hooper at tight end. And
Speaker 1: they can't move the ball, they can't run it, they
Speaker 1: can't block, and they can't win because they can't win
Speaker 1: in the trenches. Well, they moved to yesterday and they
Speaker 1: won yesterday. And because they drafted at lynch room kid
Speaker 1: and he's finally playing right and McGary's getting better, but
Speaker 1: rookies playing on the right side. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Pete. I watched McGary and they
Speaker 1: play it good. Carolina not good right now Carolina. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Carolina can't stop anybody. They're terrible. They
Speaker 1: can't stop anybody. What is the Falcon's record? Not good?
Speaker 1: Coach for four and nine, So four nine with all
Speaker 1: the investment in the skill positions, but they invested in
Speaker 1: the line last year. It's not just investing, it's investing
Speaker 1: the right guys. Right, But it's tough when you lose
Speaker 1: the guy you drafted in the first round and then
Speaker 1: you lose them. That's hard. Oh, I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not being critical. I'm just my point is
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not trying to do it, but
Speaker 1: where they've invested their draft picks in their collateral lately
Speaker 1: until last year? Correct, Well, Jake Matthews was the first
Speaker 1: round there, I'm fine, and Lynds some helps him. If
Speaker 1: they get the offensive line figured out, they have some.
Speaker 1: They're very little on defense as well, Pete. You know that.
Speaker 1: Then a little defense, a little defensive line that can't stop,
Speaker 1: they can't hold up. And my whole point, I'm not
Speaker 1: being overly critical of the Falcons or anything else. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to make the point where everyone starts talking
Speaker 1: about all these skill guys, and I want good skill guys,
Speaker 1: but if you want big people, you can't win this
Speaker 1: You cannot win in this league. It's improven year in
Speaker 1: and year out. The fact, look at look at Baltimore's line.
Speaker 1: Stanley and Brown are good at tackles. You know, Yonda
Speaker 1: is good. Boseman's playing well at left guard as a
Speaker 1: as a kid out of Alabama, and then they got
Speaker 1: a second backup centers playing. Now go look at those
Speaker 1: big defensive lignement in the interior. It's hard to run
Speaker 1: against them, right, Pearson Williams, all right, you done, I'm done. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get my rant is over. But that's what has
Speaker 1: to be, That's what has to happen in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Let's get to social media questions, and we've got some
Speaker 1: good ones again today. Of course at John big g A,
Speaker 1: is Tony Boselli going to coach o line? Can Prisco
Speaker 1: take an advisory role in the front office Jaguars? We
Speaker 1: need some milk. I don't know if that means, but no,
Speaker 1: I will not be coaching the offensive line, and no,
Speaker 1: Pete will not be an advisory war role role as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think I've been offered that job.
Speaker 1: No one. No one's offered No one's offered you that job.
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised. I know for a fact, if Tom
Speaker 1: Conflan the role he is in, he is not inviting
Speaker 1: Pete risco in. He's not making that decision. I'm taking
Speaker 1: his job. So you've talked to Shot, I've talked to
Speaker 1: I'm taking over for Tom in case anybody's wondering, my god, No,
Speaker 1: I will not be drafting for running back fourth overall. Ever,
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta get my reds may warmed up
Speaker 1: to go look for someone because I can't be around
Speaker 1: Pete that much, one time a week already. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: Apparently we need some milk as a meme. I'm told
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Let's move on at
Speaker 1: Samuel of Duval. I don't know who would make the
Speaker 1: worst GM between Priscoe and a silly. Priscoe's team would
Speaker 1: consist of an undrafted running back in a statue of
Speaker 1: a quarterback, while but Silly would feel a team consisting
Speaker 1: of first round lineman the likes of Luke Jokol Insane Beatles.
Speaker 1: That's not really a question, that's a statement. So you
Speaker 1: basically and also saying Beatles wasn't the first round, there's
Speaker 1: a bad free agent. First of all, this is I
Speaker 1: think the point where I was Tony would draft him
Speaker 1: in the first round. No, I wouldn't. That's stupid. Why
Speaker 1: would you put that up there. That's not a question.
Speaker 1: That's a cheap shot, that makes no sense, and it's
Speaker 1: not accurate. Priscost part is probably No. I don't think
Speaker 1: people wants a statue of a quarterback. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I want a guy who can move. But I would
Speaker 1: I take uh, I take my homes he can move. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a dumb that's dumb. I would I
Speaker 1: would have an undrafted not an undrafted, but my running
Speaker 1: back would come in the third round, third round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not drafted. I certainly wouldn't draft him in the
Speaker 1: first round. Look at look at the look at the guy.
Speaker 1: Look at the guys who got paid and drafted the
Speaker 1: first round. David Jobson, Zeke Kellyottz. David Johnson wasn't the
Speaker 1: first rounder. I don't think Pete No, but he got paid.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He was in the first round though. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying the guy who got drafted the first
Speaker 1: round and or got paid. That's not what you said,
Speaker 1: But that's fine. That's what I said. Let's spoop. Heasre
Speaker 1: at Kelsey Joe an eight eight Tony in your opinion,
Speaker 1: if you were shot, con would you clean house now?
Speaker 1: Not asking what you think will happen, asking what you
Speaker 1: personally think should happen, Like right, now, No, I would not.
Speaker 1: I see no purpose of making a change with three
Speaker 1: weeks in the season left other than getting a jump
Speaker 1: start start on the process you're gonna But Pete, you're
Speaker 1: gonna plenty of time as soon as the season's over
Speaker 1: to get a jump shot, jump start on the process.
Speaker 1: And there's rules of who you can interview anyways when
Speaker 1: teams are interview but you can get going on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody's going on in anyways, is what you're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, just because you haven't made changes doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you can't start preparing for what you're gonna do. Here's
Speaker 1: a question I have and I'm not a Twitter guy,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ask Tony this would Ron Rivera be
Speaker 1: on your radar? Sure? Absolutely, two time Coach of the Year,
Speaker 1: took a team to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Ron would be a great higher for whoever gets him.
Speaker 1: I definitely one question would be, who's your coordinator? I
Speaker 1: definitely want to interview him. Who's your offensive coordinator? Sure?
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, that's a question i'd ask
Speaker 1: any but but but that isn't that an important one
Speaker 1: for a defensive coach? I personally think That's an important
Speaker 1: question for any head coach you're interviewing, is who are
Speaker 1: your coordinators? Because those are key roles in the organization.
Speaker 1: But a defensive minded coach, you want to know who
Speaker 1: the offensive coaches because you want to see what kind
Speaker 1: of style he's gonna play, sure, and what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do at quarterback and other physicians and all that.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna play offense? It's kind of important lest
Speaker 1: I checked, No less important if you hire an offensive coaches,
Speaker 1: who's your defensive defense? So, Tony, you don't think the
Speaker 1: Redskins and the Panthers right now have a little edge
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars, don't. Okay? Next question at no toes down.
Speaker 1: Are there any position groups we can be optimistic about
Speaker 1: going into the offseason. The only when I see is
Speaker 1: defensive end, and that's only if we keep in Gockway.
Speaker 1: I think. I think DJ Chark has been a bright spot.
Speaker 1: That's one receiver, but group group, it's one receiver. To
Speaker 1: um Okay, I mean no defensive ends? Did if in
Speaker 1: Gockways on the team. So let's if a Gockways on
Speaker 1: the team, not on the team, there's no position Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. No running back.
Speaker 1: Maybe running back, and if you're gonna run the right
Speaker 1: style of offense, I think it running back. You're fine.
Speaker 1: I think listen, I think if you have Charking. Uh,
Speaker 1: are you so all of a sudden you're done with Westbrook?
Speaker 1: He can't be a good number three receiver. No, but
Speaker 1: you need another guy, so you don't feel great about
Speaker 1: the group. Well, you need another defensive end too, We
Speaker 1: got to you need a big end h Man crickets.
Speaker 1: It's not good. You need a big end of the
Speaker 1: style of defensive playing now. But you don't need I mean,
Speaker 1: you can get by with with two passing ends if
Speaker 1: you have two big guys in the middle. Okay, it
Speaker 1: means there's some work to be done in the offseason.
Speaker 1: I mean, great, it's a lot. Say what it was
Speaker 1: a big end on your team when you were good? Uh?
Speaker 1: We we we had Smangy, we had Logman, we had Brackens.
Speaker 1: Not big ends. They were they were not big ends. No,
Speaker 1: but the style ends the end. But Smanky was two
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds, sixty five pounds. He was a
Speaker 1: big dude. He could hold the point with the tight
Speaker 1: end over there. But you're talking like when you talk
Speaker 1: big and in their defense, you're talking about Clay. I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about close side end. And I guess you
Speaker 1: know John, I mean Josh Allen's big enough. He could
Speaker 1: do it all right, right? Uh? Final question, Uh, Mr
Speaker 1: sach Ray. In twenty five years, this franchise has seen
Speaker 1: little success. What is the root cause? I feel like
Speaker 1: we talked about things on the surface, but we can
Speaker 1: never pinpoint the root of the problem. Small market problems.
Speaker 1: Why can't we seem to get the right people on
Speaker 1: and off the field to bring success. I don't think
Speaker 1: small market has anything to do with it. I mean
Speaker 1: Green Bay is smaller market and they're pretty successful. Um,
Speaker 1: it's drafting, lay it out there. From the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's about It's about the leadership and draft
Speaker 1: and building the right getting the right pieces, the right
Speaker 1: Jimmy's and Joe's on the field, and then coaching them
Speaker 1: up and having them execute. That's I mean. Look, Tony,
Speaker 1: I always go back to your draft. Your draft. Okay,
Speaker 1: you had extra picks in the draft, and this is
Speaker 1: a perfect taste illustration of what happens when you miss
Speaker 1: on draft picks. You big hit James Stewart, solid hit,
Speaker 1: not a great hit. Solid hit. DeMarco with Schwartz ended
Speaker 1: up being a with and here and here's the one.
Speaker 1: Chris Hudson was a miss. So what did they do
Speaker 1: when they miss Chris Hudson? Come back two years later
Speaker 1: and they take Mike Logan. What happens when they missed
Speaker 1: Mike Logan? They have to use a first round pick
Speaker 1: in ninety on Donovan Darius. There's where all the problems
Speaker 1: come into play for a franchise. When you miss drafting,
Speaker 1: you try and compensate at a either at a later
Speaker 1: draft or through free agency, and it comes back to bite,
Speaker 1: you know, behind who is the best or one are something?
Speaker 1: Give us some of the best organizations at drafting right
Speaker 1: now and they all miss. I think the Ravens have
Speaker 1: had great drafts over the years. The Ravens have traditionally
Speaker 1: been one of those teams where I'll let my free
Speaker 1: agent go because I got a guy over here I
Speaker 1: can get. Yeah, I can put them in, you know,
Speaker 1: like they let Sugs go and now jud Don is
Speaker 1: having a great year. They just know how to replace.
Speaker 1: That's what good good organizations do. They replace right now?
Speaker 1: Is there any replace. I mean, Herndon's playing because he
Speaker 1: had to. But is there a replaced guy in the
Speaker 1: on the on the field on defense right now or replace? No? No,
Speaker 1: And the Steelers are historically been great at drafting. Yes,
Speaker 1: how about the Seahawks lately over the the run over
Speaker 1: the last and I don't know that I can't go
Speaker 1: through the whole roster, but a lot of the Seahawks
Speaker 1: good players are guys have drafted him. I mean they
Speaker 1: traded for Dwayne Brown the left Happle Clowney's there now
Speaker 1: and Clowney they got on the trade but it was
Speaker 1: the greatest trade ever. But the but the good Seahawks
Speaker 1: team teams were built on the draft, through the draft,
Speaker 1: right I think that was my point? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like Sherman and and uh but even if
Speaker 1: you look at it now, they're they're best players. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson drafted their two backs, drafted Bobby Wagner, drafted kJ Wright.
Speaker 1: I think he was a draft Um, they're good corner
Speaker 1: right now. Uh what's his name? Twin brothers on the team.
Speaker 1: I came think he's a draft pick. But I mean,
Speaker 1: like here here's their draft traded for example, two thousand
Speaker 1: and ten o'coon who started Earl Thomas, Golden Tate, Cam Chancellor.
Speaker 1: That's four guys in that draft. Then you come back
Speaker 1: and you get kg kJ right in the fourth round,
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman and the fifth Malcolm Smith, remember he was
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl m V p uh in the seventh.
Speaker 1: Then he come back the next year, Bruce Servant did
Speaker 1: quite work out, but one awful, Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: Jake and then Sweezy came in the seventh round. Then
Speaker 1: you come back the next year. They blew at the
Speaker 1: year because they got Kristin Kristen Michael Member he was
Speaker 1: a bust, but they get Luke Wilson, Spencer Ware who
Speaker 1: end up playing the league. You come back, you get
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson, Justin Britt Cassius Marsh which isn't great, and
Speaker 1: then Frank Clark, Tyler Lockett, Mark Lewinsky who is now
Speaker 1: starting in in Indianapolis. So there are drafts. Effettie read Vanette,
Speaker 1: Quentin Jefferson. I mean they get guys that play, So
Speaker 1: I was right. I mean here's the other thing though,
Speaker 1: if they don't get Russell Wilson, they got they don't
Speaker 1: get if they don't hit him in the third round,
Speaker 1: it's still there's still floundering. If you go through. I mean,
Speaker 1: we could do this all night. But if you go through,
Speaker 1: most of the teams that are in the division lead
Speaker 1: or are fighting for the wild carpet. Let's just do
Speaker 1: the division leaders are the best teams. It's built to
Speaker 1: the draft. They traded for Jimmy g but most of
Speaker 1: their guys are draft picks. Um. They did some, they
Speaker 1: did some free agents, but the majority of their basis
Speaker 1: is the draft. If you look like, okay, let's go
Speaker 1: through a Bosa, the big These are guys contributing this year.
Speaker 1: Bosa Samuel I mentioned green Law, he was a fifth
Speaker 1: round pick. Uh. Then you get McGlinchey, first round pick,
Speaker 1: pet Warner third round pick. Uh DJ, I mean these
Speaker 1: guys are all later picks. Then you get to the night.
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas was a miss as a first round pick.
Speaker 1: He's a miss. Ruben Foster is a miss. But what
Speaker 1: happened to him, that's why. But then they get Henderson
Speaker 1: in the third round. They get Kiddle on the fifth
Speaker 1: round in that same draft. Then d J. Jones, who
Speaker 1: starts on the nose came in the six so they
Speaker 1: missed the first two first and they have two first
Speaker 1: round picks. Think about that for a second tony two
Speaker 1: first round picks that year, miss on Thomas, miss on Foster,
Speaker 1: but they get starting corner and Witherspoon the best tight
Speaker 1: end in the NFL right now, and Kittle and d J.
Speaker 1: Jones is their starting nose in the sixth round. That's
Speaker 1: how you compensate and make up for it, and that's
Speaker 1: why your team is good. I mean, the Saints are
Speaker 1: though different, the Saints is you know, obviously Drew Brees
Speaker 1: was a free agent, but the Saints have drafted. They
Speaker 1: draft a lot of good players Green Bay, I mean,
Speaker 1: and so the drect you like, free agency is important
Speaker 1: is to fill a couple like just bits and pieces.
Speaker 1: But the team, the good teams are built through the draft.
Speaker 1: It's the bottom line. You're gonna have misses. Everyone misses,
Speaker 1: but you have to have a lot. You have to
Speaker 1: have more hits than misses. And that's not happening ahead people.
Speaker 1: And the forty Niners did draft a running back in
Speaker 1: the top ten. Mm hmm, thanks Pete. Pete loves going
Speaker 1: back to that. That's that is literally his like Trump card. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm a great hand, but here it is, and I
Speaker 1: applaud I applauded letter for net for what he's done
Speaker 1: and how he's changed. But it's just the value of
Speaker 1: the position. You just don't take that there. How many misses?
Speaker 1: Is too many misses? Oh? I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: a numbers one person that would know that the owner
Speaker 1: of the team. Well, right now, no, I mean that
Speaker 1: right now it's I mean, I still think the way
Speaker 1: it's where we sit today is it's the evaluation of
Speaker 1: of Tom. I mean, Tom is the one who evaluate
Speaker 1: is going to evaluate all that until further notice. I mean,
Speaker 1: but as we sit today, So basically what you're talking,
Speaker 1: he's evaluating himself because he's drafted him. Yeah. I guess
Speaker 1: you're right. I can't evaluate you, Okay, silly, based on
Speaker 1: your evaluation of your effort in this radio show, you
Speaker 1: I think a plus A plus. I'm an A plus
Speaker 1: and me and JP, who are really doing the evaluation,
Speaker 1: might give you a C plus maybe something lower than that.
Speaker 1: On that that hurts D D D. But you understand
Speaker 1: what you're what I'm saying, Tony, how could Tom do
Speaker 1: the critiquing of the draft when he did it, let's
Speaker 1: gonna break. You want to go to break? You want
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Speaker 1: a FC South, Well, it doesn't really matter for the
Speaker 1: Jags any more. We'll go over the division anyway, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tight at the top, very tight, really tight.
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Speaker 1: Jack to coverage. You busted busted things and you know
Speaker 1: a little di the guys that we have, and you know,
Speaker 1: we've got to do a better job. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a little bit on both. Now
Speaker 1: you can't just say, you know, it's just the players.
Speaker 1: It's us as coaches too, So you know, we try
Speaker 1: to put him in good position. We work on things
Speaker 1: during the week, but um, you know, if you don't
Speaker 1: have that performance on the field, and it's a reflection
Speaker 1: on everyone. Sorry, Doug interrupted, Doug Marone there Jaguars head.
Speaker 1: That was embarrassing, Jaguar's head coach. That's why you get
Speaker 1: a D minus. WHOA wow, you're throwing out grades now,
Speaker 1: how about that? That's Tony started the grades you threw
Speaker 1: Pete started it. He gave you too high, but I
Speaker 1: gave I gave a C plus. You said way lower.
Speaker 1: I said D plus. I said D plus, you said
Speaker 1: C plus. At least it's not an F. But look,
Speaker 1: look at the right type of ellie. You did what
Speaker 1: you wanted to do. You danced around the question. When
Speaker 1: I asked you the question, you deflected. He's a deflector,
Speaker 1: certainly is he deflects. I bull rushed him and he
Speaker 1: did what he did, did plenty of defensive ends. He
Speaker 1: threw me to the side and didn't answer my question.
Speaker 1: But what's the answer then? What was the question? Again?
Speaker 1: Shouldn't golf and be held it was he critique and
Speaker 1: he should be held accountable. But for all his picks,
Speaker 1: he's the one who made him. You agree, yes, absolutely
Speaker 1: should be okay, h what what would you say, Pete?
Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity and none of us really know
Speaker 1: if you took all your draft picks, what should be
Speaker 1: your hit rate over you know, a six year period, Well,
Speaker 1: you should hit on if you say you have six
Speaker 1: first round picks, and I'm gonna say if you hit six,
Speaker 1: if you have six round picks, you gott hit him
Speaker 1: five first round o'na say second round picks? Okay, because
Speaker 1: it different variables. You're not gonna hit on all your
Speaker 1: seven you got. If you hit one seventh round pick
Speaker 1: in that six years, you should do cart wheels if
Speaker 1: you hit. So, let's just say five of six first
Speaker 1: round picks, four of the six second round picks, three
Speaker 1: of the six third round picks, two fours, and then
Speaker 1: one all the way through. You do that, you're having
Speaker 1: a good You're drafted? Well, were you great? Is that
Speaker 1: a good formula? Sure? I guess where do you think
Speaker 1: this team is? Okay, go through their draft picks. They
Speaker 1: haven't hit on five of the six first round picks. Okay,
Speaker 1: go through read the first round picks quick quickly. Last
Speaker 1: last year, Josh Allen, Yeah, Davin Bryan, keep going. I
Speaker 1: think Lair's a hit. I know you don't like you.
Speaker 1: It's not a it's not a hit based on the
Speaker 1: value that. Okay, fine, it's not not a hit at four.
Speaker 1: It's a hit at for. It's not a Ramsey Jayling
Speaker 1: Ramsey is a hit. Is it's not the roster it
Speaker 1: was pick, it's the right pick. He's a good player. Okay,
Speaker 1: just go Foler Bortles, no joke, No, how many of that?
Speaker 1: That's what? How many graphics who had a seven two
Speaker 1: out of seven, two out of seven. Pete says it's
Speaker 1: a hit. Okay, let's go to second round. Oh gosh, okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a while. This is good. This is
Speaker 1: good to hear. I like to hear this myself. Joan
Speaker 1: Taylor hit yes. DJ Chark hit yes. Cam Robinson no,
Speaker 1: thank you, Miles Jack no, t J Yeldon ll no,
Speaker 1: markis Lee No. Well, I think if you want, it's
Speaker 1: hard to fact that I am because of the injury.
Speaker 1: But the answer is no. Well, okay, I would say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Marquis Yes, m you signed him to
Speaker 1: a second deal. No, it's a no, Tony, he's not.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been a contributor for her going around. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Cyprio No, Allen Robinson, Oh yeah, that was another second
Speaker 1: round pick. Allen Robinson. Yes, yes, well, I don't know
Speaker 1: he's not on the roster. But no, two. That's two
Speaker 1: out of eight because if you hit them, they should
Speaker 1: still be on the roster. This is not a good
Speaker 1: ratio so far have Should we do the third round here?
Speaker 1: Let's do the third round? Okay, the ratio here, I
Speaker 1: bet they get three of these. Josh Oliver, Josh Oliver
Speaker 1: and Quincy Williams two early. Ronnie Harrison No, Dwan Smooth,
Speaker 1: no Unique and got Way Yes. A J. Can Yes,
Speaker 1: they've resigned him. They started the most games, right, Brandon Linder, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Rotts. Oh, so that's three out of six, believe it? Okay?
Speaker 1: In the third round, you want to do fourth although
Speaker 1: a J. A j. Is a starter, but he's not good.
Speaker 1: Do you want to you want the fourth round signed? Hey,
Speaker 1: let's just go through the four with an litill call
Speaker 1: it here. No fourth round pick this year. Last year
Speaker 1: it would have been will Richardson Jr. To be determined.
Speaker 1: Dan Westbrook in seventeen say yes, Sheldon Day, Well, he's
Speaker 1: playing on another team. But no, James Sample No, Aaron Colvin. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't resign because you couldn't afford him. He's a
Speaker 1: good player. I think he's a hit. I'm giving him
Speaker 1: hit going wow, uh, Ace Sanders, that's the fourth rounders,
Speaker 1: so you have that's two out of six with the
Speaker 1: one he's not on the roster, so it's not a hit.
Speaker 1: That's two out of six with an undetermined in will Richardson. Wow,
Speaker 1: not good, not good? Not good? Um, we could play
Speaker 1: this game all night. Let's just move along to the
Speaker 1: ANFC South. Let's start with the results from yesterday around
Speaker 1: the division. The Broncos beat the Texans. Watson's day a
Speaker 1: couple of interceptions and a couple of touchdown runs, but
Speaker 1: Drew Lock looking good for Denver. That's the bigger news
Speaker 1: in that game. The Texans loss, though, combined with the
Speaker 1: Titans win over the Raiders, means there's a tie for
Speaker 1: first place in the division and those two teams will
Speaker 1: play each other twice over the last three weeks of
Speaker 1: the season. Head to hit, that is a bad loss
Speaker 1: for the for the Texans, a bad loss. And I
Speaker 1: didn't see the game. Is Drew Lock the real deal? Pete? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he can. He can spend it, you know
Speaker 1: he can. I mean in he's placed with an added
Speaker 1: tude and so you know, here's a question. If you're
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, would you rather have Drew Lock and not
Speaker 1: have Nick Foles? Damn? Right now, the question would be
Speaker 1: do you want Drew Lock and not Juwan Taylor? Because
Speaker 1: that's where you had to draft him. He was a
Speaker 1: second But if you hadn't signed Nick Foles, you might
Speaker 1: have been in a position where you decided he was
Speaker 1: gonna take Drew Lock. No, I understand that, But would
Speaker 1: you take Drew Lock instead of Jown Taylor right now? Yes? Hey,
Speaker 1: are we ever gonna circle back, by the way on
Speaker 1: the whole? Would you take Jamis Winston or Nick Foles?
Speaker 1: You said Foles? Yeah, Well, so we forgot that. We
Speaker 1: forgot that. Although I mean, what a bad loss by
Speaker 1: Indie two because Jamis Winston through three picks three something
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. Well, actually actually threw four touchdowns
Speaker 1: because one was the pick six to Darius Leonard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got as many interceptions as he does touchdown. Let
Speaker 1: me ask, would you take touchdowns twenty three interceptions? He's
Speaker 1: better than Nick Foles. He threw for four fifty six yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm think going to sign and Pete. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: almost damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Right,
Speaker 1: I think on't franchise one more year? Probably expensive though
Speaker 1: quick AFC South Power rankings, not that it matters for
Speaker 1: the Jags anymore. At the bottom. At the bottom, Titans
Speaker 1: are at number one, Texans are number two, Culture three,
Speaker 1: and Jags are four. Yeah, I agree, the Titans are
Speaker 1: gonna win the division. Ryan County all is playing good football,
Speaker 1: which goes back to you could have gotten him a
Speaker 1: lot cheaper than Nickols. Touch the rest of the games.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you gotta throw them all out there.
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Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe rehashing the Jags lost to the chargerst ten.
Speaker 1: The Jags are four and nine. They've dropped five in
Speaker 1: a row and they haven't been closer than any of
Speaker 1: the five. You know, Pete, we were talking during the
Speaker 1: break and and then going back to the social media
Speaker 1: question is like how did you get here? And what
Speaker 1: do we do? And we just did these rankings and
Speaker 1: if you go just just take the first rounders. Is
Speaker 1: there's only one first rounder out of seven? Seven? Really too,
Speaker 1: because I know you think Leonard for it's the wrong
Speaker 1: guy because of the value. But I gave them and
Speaker 1: our thing go on two or seven. You took off winterd.
Speaker 1: I gave them Jalen. But the whole point is that's
Speaker 1: four or five starters or three to five starters that
Speaker 1: you should have on your team right now that are productive,
Speaker 1: high end players that you don't have. And when you
Speaker 1: lose that, it is really hard. And then when you
Speaker 1: look at the second rounders, I mean, that's that's the
Speaker 1: core of your guys who make a difference on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and that's and that's it's hard to win games well.
Speaker 1: And the other thing, Tony is when they're high first
Speaker 1: round picks, it's even worse because you're expecting those guys
Speaker 1: to be Pro Bowl players. They've all been high frust
Speaker 1: round picks everyone. But so that there's there's your wid
Speaker 1: boardles with foul or high pick with I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just with and if you're gonna go and you go
Speaker 1: back to Leonard who's having a very good year, and
Speaker 1: let's take Pete's opinion off the board that you don't
Speaker 1: pick a running back that high. If you pick him
Speaker 1: that high, well then you have to build your offense
Speaker 1: based on the runner he is, which does not happened.
Speaker 1: I mean much like I mean you look at uh Carolina.
Speaker 1: They took uh McCaffrey with ten or nine, ten or eleven,
Speaker 1: whatever you want in that area and the offense is
Speaker 1: built around what he does well inside outside zone. Use
Speaker 1: him out of the backfield as a receiver, get the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. I mean that they built the
Speaker 1: offense around him and gave the personnel to do it.
Speaker 1: And so let me ask you this toy. Is Leonard
Speaker 1: now a better receiver than he is runner? No? I listen.
Speaker 1: I think he's caught the most balls on this team
Speaker 1: this year, which is a lot of them. Are I
Speaker 1: mean his yards were a ten or yards per catches.
Speaker 1: He's got more than not yards per catching. Um. I
Speaker 1: still say Leonard for Nett as a gap runner is
Speaker 1: a good running back. If you want to say we're
Speaker 1: gonna be a gap team, we're gonna counter, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get we're gonna run power, we're gonna run what I
Speaker 1: would call base whatever you want. Where was getting a
Speaker 1: bunch of double teams and you know, and letting him
Speaker 1: pick the whole type of deal. Like he's like he's
Speaker 1: a physical guy. He's not gonna make him miss. He's
Speaker 1: not a great jump cut guy. He's he's his go
Speaker 1: to move is to spin. I mean, but he's downhill,
Speaker 1: north and south guy. And like he's affect, like Henry
Speaker 1: like Henry Henry. Henry has great feat Henry is a
Speaker 1: jump cut. Henry has a good jump cut. He could
Speaker 1: run inside zone. He's effective at that. Uh Like, but
Speaker 1: you have to build that, like you've just to decide
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna be. Then we have to build
Speaker 1: it like that. We're gonna play all our play action
Speaker 1: pass and all that stuff is gonna be off the
Speaker 1: power and counter stuff we do. But then you have
Speaker 1: to have big people. You have to big tight end,
Speaker 1: you have a big physical office. Lie you have to
Speaker 1: fall back things we've said all night, and so I
Speaker 1: like I would not pick back number four either, Pete.
Speaker 1: But like, if you want to be fair to let
Speaker 1: her like he's having a productive year, he's a good player,
Speaker 1: he's done a good I'm giving him credit for what
Speaker 1: he's done. And I think right now he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that's turned things around. Credit. Dam It's just
Speaker 1: the value of the position isn't there for me? And
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the type of back in the
Speaker 1: NFL that that you know, makes people miss. And it's
Speaker 1: an air game now you gotta make people miss. Let's
Speaker 1: touch on some of the games around the League yesterday
Speaker 1: Falcons over the Panthers fort twenty, the Ravens looking good again,
Speaker 1: seventeen over the Bills, um, the Browns beat the Bengals
Speaker 1: nineteen and then Baker Mayfield talking about the training staff
Speaker 1: after the game. Odell Beckham Um, They was asking him
Speaker 1: about what was it, Peter about Odell Beckham and he said,
Speaker 1: some problems turn and he's gonna have the three. And
Speaker 1: so he took a little shot at the trainings there.
Speaker 1: Let me let me say something about the Ravens kind
Speaker 1: they at some point he's gonna have to start completing
Speaker 1: passes to the wide receivers. I'm sorry, he's just going
Speaker 1: to have to. And the build did an outstanding job
Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson yesterday. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: saw any bits and pieces of that. He didn't throw
Speaker 1: the ball very well. He in one, you know, busted
Speaker 1: coverage for sixty yards. Other than that, I think he
Speaker 1: was under had like seventy five yards passing and he
Speaker 1: didn't run that well. So if I play the Ravens,
Speaker 1: I'm daring him. I'm taking away the middle of the
Speaker 1: field of daring him and throw the receivers. And I'm
Speaker 1: not letting him run handed off to Mark Ingram. I'm
Speaker 1: stopping that running game. I'm gonna take my chances with it. Eventually,
Speaker 1: it's gonna kept up with them. Well, now, listen, the
Speaker 1: Bills are a good defense r Sean McDermot and Leslie
Speaker 1: Frazier both good defensive minds. I mean they got good
Speaker 1: person now and they did a good job. That's a
Speaker 1: good football team to the Buffalo Bills. They might end
Speaker 1: up winning the FCS because right now the Patriots are
Speaker 1: just scrambling figuring out how to score points. Now that
Speaker 1: Patriot Chief game, how are they cheating? You didn't see
Speaker 1: the story today that they were bes the Bengals. Who
Speaker 1: needs to film the Bengals right? That'd be like filming
Speaker 1: the Jaguars enough. But I'll say this that Patriot defense
Speaker 1: is good. They did a good job against the Chief's offense.
Speaker 1: The offense is bad. It is time now for Monday
Speaker 1: Night football. After a few weeks of great matchups, we're
Speaker 1: back to the horrible, underachieving NFC East. With Daniel Jones injured,
Speaker 1: here comes Eli Manning off the bench at quarterback for
Speaker 1: the two and ten New York Football Giants. They're headed
Speaker 1: to Southfilly to face the underachieving five and seven Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: who could overtake the horrible first place Dallas Cowboys down
Speaker 1: the stretch? Yuh, who you got tonight? Well, they can't
Speaker 1: overtake them this week because even if they win, they
Speaker 1: have the same record, but they already lost to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys once they they match up or meet up week sixteen.
Speaker 1: That's why I said stretch down the Stretch. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just letting people know you down the
Speaker 1: Stretch means down the Stretch. The Giants and Redskins in
Speaker 1: consecutive weeks before that. It's Uh, it's a bad division.
Speaker 1: It's we've had so many good Monday Night games as
Speaker 1: of late. I guess we're doing stink her. I think
Speaker 1: the Eagles win pretty easily. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: high scoring, Eli Manning back in the saddle. It's a
Speaker 1: Swan song. The next couple of weeks, I think you
Speaker 1: see a lot of points. But I think the Eagles
Speaker 1: winned two alright. Boys. By the way, we never talked
Speaker 1: after last week's Monday Night game when Pete said that
Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna beat the Ravens and I picked
Speaker 1: the rate. Last week. That was close, but you were
Speaker 1: almost there. They only lost by five touchdowns. That wasn't
Speaker 1: last week, Okay, two weeks ago. That was two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: They lost by eight touchdowns. Good call, Pete. That's why
Speaker 1: you're an expert picker. I'm sure CBS is proud to
Speaker 1: have you. Selly, I'm J. P. Shadwick. We'll talk to
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