WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 8/17: Biggest Observations from Joint Practices with Packers, Ezekiel Elliott, Projecting the Roster

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<v Speaker 1>Thing. I can't see Evan. I think he's on video.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he's on video. I'm here, okay, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can't see him. He can make all the faces in

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<v Speaker 1>me that he wants. It'll be a secret between him

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys watching. But thanks so much for tuning in. Today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna kind of do a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>combo show here. So obviously two days of practice out

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<v Speaker 1>in Green Bay, we're gonna cover in bolt that won't

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<v Speaker 1>just be focused on today, but I think we do

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<v Speaker 1>have to start out with today, Evan, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>right through the pleasantries because I think there's a ton

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about here, because if you guys on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>we're an over exaggerating. This was one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>practice performances in NFL history. There's something about Mac Jones

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<v Speaker 1>and these joint practices. He won his job two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago in a joint practice against the New York Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he came out today and apparently looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a top five quarterback in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I want to go top five quarterback in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL just yet. But look, I thought yesterday was

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<v Speaker 2>a clear win for the Green Bay Packers. They outplayed

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots on sides of the ball, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>bumpy for the Patriots offense. They started out well, very

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<v Speaker 2>first eleven on eleven period on a Wednesday. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>my days all mixed up. On Wednesday was good from

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots offense. They made some plays in the red

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<v Speaker 2>zone in particular, which has been a strong point two

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<v Speaker 2>days in a row. So that's one thing I think

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<v Speaker 2>they can hang their hats on. That's been good for

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<v Speaker 2>both days. But Mac Jones said it best after practice

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<v Speaker 2>said the consistency wasn't there. It was one good play,

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<v Speaker 2>one bad, one good play, one bad and returned to

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<v Speaker 2>the grenade offense if you will on Wednesday, where it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like every other play was a sack, a penalty,

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<v Speaker 2>procedural thing going wrong and it wasn't sharp. It didn't

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<v Speaker 2>look great today on Thursday, though, and I just tweeted

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<v Speaker 2>out my takeaways on the offensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>and Duce will have defensive takeaways here shortly as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that this was maybe the best practice

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen Mac Jones have on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Better than the Giants practice.

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<v Speaker 2>We always go back and forth on it, right because

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants practices to you and I, Alex is like

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<v Speaker 2>the pinnacle right, that's a.

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<v Speaker 1>New England Patriots where were you moment? Brady de Moss

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<v Speaker 1>right in seven is up there twenty eight to three.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, chronologically here a Quinn Ortine going ten for

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<v Speaker 1>ten in the in stadium practice in Mac Jones against

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants and joint practice is does this join the list?

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<v Speaker 3>I think this joins the list for two reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>One, I thought that there was more down the field

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<v Speaker 2>emphasis today than maybe we've ever seen from Mac. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the big highlight which we can break down was the

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<v Speaker 2>Devonte Parker touchdown, but he also had to practice earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>a throw earlier in practice to Taekwon Thornton on a

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<v Speaker 2>deep over route that he hit and then he hit

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter Henry up up the scene for another big play.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't think it was just the underneath stuff

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<v Speaker 2>or chipping away or check downs or things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like he was pushing the ball down the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And the red zone period that they had today a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty extensive one. It wasn't just Mac Jones, it was

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<v Speaker 2>Bailey Zappy too. They went right through the Packers defense,

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<v Speaker 2>the ones and the twos inside the red zone, just

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<v Speaker 2>hitting passes all over the place to like seven different

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<v Speaker 2>receivers DeVante Parker to Mario Douglas, Kendrick Bourne, Juju Smith, Schuster,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Firkser, like everybody getting involved in that portion of practice,

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<v Speaker 2>ones and twos like I just mentioned. So, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that this practice was one of the better competitive joint.

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<v Speaker 3>Practices that I've ever been a part of, where you.

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<v Speaker 2>Really saw an edge, you saw some fire, you saw

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<v Speaker 2>some pushback from the Patriots, and I know that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of things made of the skirmishes. I

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<v Speaker 2>know there are a lot of tweets out there about skirmishes,

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<v Speaker 2>some involving keon White things like that, but this wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we were both at the joint is last

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<v Speaker 2>year against the Panthers alex where it was ugly in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the extracurriculars.

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<v Speaker 3>This wasn't necessarily like that.

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<v Speaker 2>This was like, you know, there were some skirmishes, but

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, it was friendly competitive fire from

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<v Speaker 2>both teams. You know, Jabriel Peppers and Jai Yar Alexander

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<v Speaker 2>going back and forth, jawing at each other, and then

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<v Speaker 2>after practice you see them dapping each other up and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, exchanging pleasantries. So I don't think that this

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<v Speaker 2>was really a bad blood between these two teams. Like

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<v Speaker 2>we also saw the Jets and the Bucks, they canceled

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<v Speaker 2>their second practice, right the Jets pulled out of the

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<v Speaker 2>second practice because of how bad the first one was.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what this was like.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just live, competitive and intense, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that it was just an extremely entertaining practice.

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<v Speaker 1>To watch for what it thort the Jets pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time because they were worried about other things.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that we can do the Jets another time,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot to get to there, folks on

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots today, and if you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots with us as well, eight five five Pats

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<v Speaker 1>Is the email we'll get. We already have one email

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get to it in a little bit. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got some calls coming on the board. But in the meantime, look, Evan,

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<v Speaker 1>you're normally the one that's kind of pouring water on

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<v Speaker 1>the fire. Maybe it's something about the one chair. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's true here. I know that's true at the

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Up a lot was made yesterday after practice, and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the comments for Mac Jones where he said

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't consistent enough. I believe it was in that

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<v Speaker 1>same answer he talked about how he was looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to going back watching the film and working on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Mac Jones comes out today and performs the

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<v Speaker 1>way he did, there's a lot of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are down on Mac will come out and say, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>great on Sundays in the fall, he's not gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>get to go back watch the film and play the

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<v Speaker 1>team again on Monday. How much of today's growth do

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<v Speaker 1>you think was adjusting to the Packers defense and how

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<v Speaker 1>much of it was just they had a good day

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<v Speaker 1>and it could have been the first, the second, the

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<v Speaker 1>third day of joint practices. They were just at their

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<v Speaker 1>best today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think that's a fair point.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's an interesting setup where you do get

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<v Speaker 2>to play the same exact guys two days in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about it with the practices back home, where

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<v Speaker 2>when you're going up against the same defense or the

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<v Speaker 2>same offense every single day, you start to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>on tendencies, and you start to pick up on strengths

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<v Speaker 2>and weaknesses of individual players. So how much of it

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<v Speaker 2>is learning and adapting to what the packers are doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that that remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the one big thing though, that with Mac

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<v Speaker 2>and that we can talk about some of the individual

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<v Speaker 2>players around him, is the anticipation that he's been throwing

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<v Speaker 2>the Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Even cut out right when you gave those whatever those

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<v Speaker 1>adjectives were, time whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You can you hear me? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>The timing and anticipation that he's throwing the football with

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<v Speaker 2>I think has been extremely impressive over the last two days,

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<v Speaker 2>not just today. I thought yesterday he threw the ball

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<v Speaker 2>as similar anticipation.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I can see you now look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have literally so I had there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>studio monitor over there. I have it up on my

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<v Speaker 1>computer to read the YouTube chat. And now I have

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<v Speaker 1>this one here, so there is it's literally like all three,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the third see you okay, yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just scaring down the barrel of this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is better because you know that we don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>over each other and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be looking over here the whole show.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the biggest thing is is that you

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<v Speaker 2>look at you know, the timing, the rhythm, the anticipation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I asked Mac about that yesterday, about his improved

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<v Speaker 2>anticipation and feel for for this offense, and he mentioned that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's two different there's different types of throws.

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<v Speaker 2>Like some throws are in rhythm throws where you are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get the ball out quickly and you are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to hit receivers out of their brakes and throw

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<v Speaker 2>with that magic word of anticipation. And there are other

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<v Speaker 2>throws that are more progression throws where you're just going one, two,

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<v Speaker 2>three through the progression and you might come late to

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<v Speaker 2>something that's open, but if you get to it eventually

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<v Speaker 2>and you hit it, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole goal.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're not every throw is meant to be thrown

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<v Speaker 2>with anticipation, I guess, is the point I'm trying to make.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we've seen from him over the last two days,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think each with each day of practice is

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<v Speaker 2>that improving tremendously. And the one throw that really stood

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<v Speaker 2>out today and we're not allowed to share the video, Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I, but I think it is circulating around

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter if people want to search for it. He made

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<v Speaker 2>a throw in the red zone work on a touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>pass to Kendrick Bourne where Board was working.

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<v Speaker 3>Against Jaii Alexander.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're not talking about Kendrick Bourne working against a

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<v Speaker 2>practice squad corner here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about a top fifteen, top ten corner in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the play, they ran a little inside hitch

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<v Speaker 2>from the slot and then they ran a dig down

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the end zone for Born, and Born

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gave a little head fake to his right

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<v Speaker 2>and then cut it back inside on the inbreaker and

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant ran a great route against Jaiyir and god No,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Mac just threw the ball instantly out of

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<v Speaker 2>the break, like you came out even a step before.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendrick Bourne turned his eyes back into the backfield and

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<v Speaker 2>the ball is just on him, you know. He turns

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<v Speaker 2>around and there's the football. And those are the types

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<v Speaker 2>of throws that Mac is going to have to make

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<v Speaker 2>consistently throughout his career to be a really good quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk so much about what he can't do, that

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have this great arm talent, or he's not

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<v Speaker 2>super mobile and things like that, but what he is

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<v Speaker 2>good at is he throws the ball accurately, he throws

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<v Speaker 2>it with good touch, He processes the field and sees

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<v Speaker 2>the field really quickly, and he's good before the snap

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<v Speaker 2>with getting the team into the proper plays and reading

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<v Speaker 2>defenses and things like that. Those are the things that

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<v Speaker 2>he has to emphasize in his game and Bill O'Brien

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<v Speaker 2>has to emphasize in his game. They have to be

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<v Speaker 2>carrying trades for him to be a really good quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in this league. And I think what we're seeing is

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<v Speaker 2>that the good parts of Mac Jones, which I think,

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<v Speaker 2>frankly for a lot of people, are sometimes difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>quantify because it's not this Josh Allen arms strength or

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<v Speaker 2>this Jalen Hurt's mobility, but that acumen that preestnappability, the

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<v Speaker 2>processing speed, anticipation, accuracy, touch like those are the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we've seen him do well at the NFL level,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was doing those really well out there today.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he continues to lean on his strengths and

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<v Speaker 2>not have to really overemphasize any of those weaknesses, then

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he's going to be a good quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to go back to my original point too,

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, getting to see it and then go

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<v Speaker 1>out there again. The thing about the first joint practice,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they might have watched a little bit of tape.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much tape you watch for something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I would equate it more towards like you

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<v Speaker 1>get to watch tape of that team the week before

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<v Speaker 1>in the week before that. So it's not like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a perfect apples to apples, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it's a fair point to make. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>ketrick board. He had a really nice play today. Seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like DeVante Parker's name got brought up a lots on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like to me, he's I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful because he had a really good camp last

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<v Speaker 1>year and then was hit and miss in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people think he was bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was game to game with him. He

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<v Speaker 1>was inconsistent, But it seems like he's kind of making

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<v Speaker 1>some steps towards being if they are going to have

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<v Speaker 1>that deep element, being the deep threat they need him

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny because I was watching practice with a

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<v Speaker 2>few of the reporters that were out here.

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<v Speaker 3>Both days, you had to.

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<v Speaker 2>We were standing on field level, so you're you have

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<v Speaker 2>this ninety player roster, coaches, training staff, and all these

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<v Speaker 2>guys are standing in front of you, right You're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like see through the trees to watch every single play.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we were helping out each other. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what did you see? Did you see this? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>see that? And anyways, you know what I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>said out loud, and I was thinking to myself at

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<v Speaker 2>some point, isn't he going to try to push the

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<v Speaker 2>football to DeVante Parker one time? Like just give park

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to make a play on the ball down

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<v Speaker 2>the field once and then of course the big play

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of it ended up happening. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think the cool thing about the forty yard touchdown at

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<v Speaker 2>the end was that it wasn't like a fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty ball.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like Devonte.

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<v Speaker 2>Parker won a back shoulder or maxed us through this

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<v Speaker 2>like arm punt, like arcing in the air and he

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<v Speaker 2>just out jumped the corner for it. We've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>Parker make those types of plays plenty, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>here or there to me because I feel like those

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<v Speaker 2>jump balls and we've talked about this before on the

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<v Speaker 2>shhow it's it's low percentage, Like even for a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like Devonte Parker, we're talking about a catch rate of

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like forty to five to fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>But if that's not.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're looking for, right like, you want things that

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<v Speaker 2>are more efficient, you want things that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>hit more consistently, be less volatile. This was and he

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<v Speaker 2>was against Russell Douglas, who's the projected starting corner for

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers opposite of you're Alexander, and he just ran

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<v Speaker 2>right Yeah, he ran right by him. You know, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't it wasn't a fifty to fifty ball. He ran

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<v Speaker 2>right by him and mac Jones hit him in stride

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<v Speaker 2>and led him into the end zone a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>for like a forty forty five yard touchdown, and the

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<v Speaker 2>sideline just lost its mind, I mean half a sideline

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<v Speaker 2>cleared out and ran onto the field to to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go get DeVante Parker. You know, it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a you know, you would have thought that they

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<v Speaker 2>just like walked it off at the end of a game.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the situation though, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>worth it mentioning as well. It was a two minute

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<v Speaker 2>drill where the Patriots were down by four points, so

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<v Speaker 2>they needed a touchdown. They field goal wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>do them any good, and for Mac to hit that

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<v Speaker 2>throw to Parker was basically signifying you just won the game, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that was the situation, that was the circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought that what he has shown this summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole question mark DeVante Parker is always about

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<v Speaker 2>two things. It's about health and it's about separation. And

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<v Speaker 2>we can't really predict health. But what he has shown

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<v Speaker 2>this summer to me, and I don't know about you

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel about this, but to me, what he's

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<v Speaker 2>shown this summer is that he gets open a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more this summer than he did last year. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see him necessarily being this great separator ever,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think that he's wearing coverage as often

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<v Speaker 2>as maybe he has, and maybe a little bit more explosive,

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<v Speaker 2>like in a straight line on those go routes than

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<v Speaker 2>he's been in the past. So it was good to

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<v Speaker 2>see that, and it was awesome to see the celebration afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's having a nice summer and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>if he can stay healthy, then he should have a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good year for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's, you know, some of what you

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<v Speaker 1>said more explosive to me. It's in this something I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot in the past, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of hate this, this concept, but that natural

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<v Speaker 1>separation when you're six five, there's just going to be

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<v Speaker 1>areas where you can go get the football that the

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<v Speaker 1>defender can't. And I think he even if he's not

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<v Speaker 1>like pulling away in the route from the corner, he's

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<v Speaker 1>him and Mac together. Because of Mac's accuracy, they're creating

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities where Parker can go get the ball away from

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<v Speaker 1>the defender because even if the defender's on his hip,

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<v Speaker 1>if Mac throws it off his shoulder, and this can

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<v Speaker 1>be a back shoulder, but it can even be more

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe more like anticipatory throws right, if it's off

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<v Speaker 1>his shoulder and he's breaking to his left, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go out and reach and get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball at six ' five, six four sixty five whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he is where the five foot eleven corner. Just even

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<v Speaker 1>if he's on him at the point where Mac releases

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, he can't make that cut with Parker because

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<v Speaker 1>he's not long enough, so I think he's looking more open.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of it is what you said, like he does

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<v Speaker 1>look like he's moving better, but I also think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing a better job. Mac Parker and Bill O'Brien's

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<v Speaker 1>probably part of this as well, and just using his

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<v Speaker 1>size to get to put the ball away from the

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<v Speaker 1>defender where he can still make a play. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the comments sorry, go ahead, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think you know to me, and it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>point that you're making. It's what we're seeing consistently, I

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<v Speaker 1>think from Mac and Parker, and I'd also throw Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Henry in there too.

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<v Speaker 3>And Mike is SICKI when he's been healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that Mac has this with this willingness or this

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<v Speaker 2>trust to throw the ball within their catch radius. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>These guys have big catch radius. Is they're bigger guys,

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<v Speaker 2>they're longer guys, and they can go ahead and make

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<v Speaker 2>catches above their heads or outside their frames that other

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<v Speaker 2>guys might not necessarily be able to make.

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<v Speaker 3>And Parker did that today, I thought a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And also Hunter Henry up the scene caught a pass

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<v Speaker 2>that was basically like a one handed catch where he

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<v Speaker 2>had he was kind of fighting off the DV with

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<v Speaker 2>his left arm and then caught it up against his

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<v Speaker 2>body with his right arm. And those are just those

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<v Speaker 2>types of throws that it's trust. It's you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna put this in a spot and I know that

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<v Speaker 2>my guy's gonna go and get the football. And we've

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<v Speaker 2>definitely seen that those areas improve as well. And I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't O'Brien's talked about trust. Mac has talked about trust.

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<v Speaker 2>That's such a big word for them this year, as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know where you're gonna be and you

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<v Speaker 2>know where I'm gonna be, so let's be there together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Again, it goes back to that point. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have all these big guys, you got to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And we talked about this a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, I think it was the show before camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you didn't love the idea of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if everybody's gonna be tall in the corners, throw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball high. But that's kind of what they're doing. They're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it not just vertically but horizontally too, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's something there. A lot of people in the chat

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<v Speaker 1>are asking about Taekwon and asking about Ezekiel Elliott We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to Zeke in a second. I do well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the receivers that want to do Taekwon play

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<v Speaker 1>of the day to day catches a deep ball for

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Jones diving catch, fell on his shoulder, left practice,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't return. What did you see in that? And just

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think it means for Taekwon here if

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<v Speaker 1>he has to miss time?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, I think that that's the only damper on

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<v Speaker 2>what was a great day if you're in New England

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<v Speaker 2>atriot fan at these at practice today against the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>was the injuries And on a positive note, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just no inside information, just going off of what

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<v Speaker 3>I saw at practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Keon White wasn't didn't get put back into team drills,

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<v Speaker 2>but he didn't leave practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Eye we could take a big deep breath on that

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<v Speaker 1>one because.

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<v Speaker 2>That, yeah, he he watched practice for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the session on the sideline. But it wasn't like we

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<v Speaker 2>need to get you know, him, immediate attention and have

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<v Speaker 2>him leave practice. So I don't think that that Keon

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<v Speaker 2>White's injury is necessarily gonna be significant or serious just

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<v Speaker 2>based off of that can no inside information. Now do

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's gonna play Saturday night, Like maybe not right,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think that it's gonna be something that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be uh cause him to miss time significant time.

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<v Speaker 3>Taekwon's injury I think is.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough because this is always gonna be the question mark

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<v Speaker 2>with him because of his frame, is can he can

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<v Speaker 2>he stay healthy? Can he is he durable enough to

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<v Speaker 2>take hids to land on his shoulder on a diving

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<v Speaker 2>catch attempt and not get injured.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's exactly what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he laid out for the catch, made a

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<v Speaker 2>great catch on the ball on a deep crosser from

0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Mac and made a good catch on it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>immediately was getting looked at by the trainers and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of motioning like you know, swinging his arm and

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<v Speaker 2>doing some of those clavical checks, which is is scary

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what he injured last year, right, he broke

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<v Speaker 2>his claviical I don't know if it was the same shoulder,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was my concern immediately, was that he injured

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<v Speaker 2>the same shoulder again. So I guess we'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>wait and see and find out more information. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we'll find out necessarily quickly on taekwond But we've

0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.680
<v Speaker 2>talked about him quite a bit about the frustrations with him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought yesterday, even though the ball didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>find him, I thought he was running good routes and

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.359
<v Speaker 2>he had some opportunities down the field that didn't necessarily

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 2>go his way. And then today he immediately hits on

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.959
<v Speaker 2>one down the field and then gets hurt again. So

0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about soft tissue injuries. In the spring, I

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<v Speaker 2>missed a couple of camp practices for the similar same injury,

0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.399
<v Speaker 2>and now a different injury potentially keeping him out again.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the this is the book on Taekwon

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I mean I hate to be negative about it,

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 2>but quite frankly, he can't stay healthy.

0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Like that's that's where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's it's a fair concern. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what happened last year because I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>had had a couple of strong practices. I mean even

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<v Speaker 1>before today, I thought, you know, he makes it. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a good practice the day before the preseason game,

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>he makes that catch in the preseason game, had a

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<v Speaker 1>good practice on Monday before before the team left for

0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. So I thought he was building momentum, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of what happened last year. He was

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<v Speaker 1>building momentum and he got hurt. Yeah, broke his collar bone,

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and so this is kind of the same area with

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<v Speaker 1>that shoulder, and we didn't see him again for four

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.080
<v Speaker 1>weeks and it seemed like he never caught up. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see where he's at with that as we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of start to wrap it up on the offense here.

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott didn't take part in any team drills yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>just went through the basic running back positional drills and

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<v Speaker 1>then sat out. Actually, before we get to his performance today,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this. So Bill was asked about Zeke.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we lose you there?

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<v Speaker 3>Nope, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>He just turn green for a second. Bill who was

0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:25.400
<v Speaker 1>asked about Ezekiel Elliot yesterday, and in his answer he

0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.639
<v Speaker 1>talked about how on the flight out to Green Bay,

0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>he was working with Zeke on the terminology and the

0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 1>protections in the playbook. So he never said it was

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 1>exclusively him. Maybe Bill O'Brien was also there, maybe Vinnison

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Siri was also there. But there's so much focus right now,

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I think on who's in control of the offense. In

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 1>what Bill's role is after last year. What did you

0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:48.760
<v Speaker 1>make of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's an interesting comment.

0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.480
<v Speaker 2>And I also thought it was good to hear from

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Mac Jones that you know, Zeke was in those meetings

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.920
<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday night and we got out here and very

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.159
<v Speaker 2>involved in everything. And I thought that there was a

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.640
<v Speaker 2>very good involvement in buying from him at practice today,

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:12.159
<v Speaker 2>even when he wasn't on the field, rooting on teammates

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and talking up teammates like JJ Taylor made a nice

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 2>play and he immediately was excited about it and really

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, involved in body in which I think is great.

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.439
<v Speaker 2>But with Belichick, I don't know what to make of

0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:30.159
<v Speaker 2>that necessarily, because it's so hard sometimes that these practices

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>to see to really tell what he's looking at or

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.400
<v Speaker 2>what he's doing, you know, sometimes with the offense, sometimes

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 2>with the defense. Sometimes he's just watching all twenty two

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 2>guys at once. So I think that there's always going

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.880
<v Speaker 2>to be a level of involvement from Belichick on all

0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:49.640
<v Speaker 2>phases of this football team. And I don't necessarily think that.

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that some people thought that in the beginning

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 2>that maybe this was Bill O'Brien's offense, and Bill was

0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 2>going to be off with the defense and special teams

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 2>in his own co owner of the practice field. That's

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 2>that's not what I've seen at all this summer. I

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 2>think that Bill is just as involved in the offense

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>as he's ever been. Maybe not necessarily the guy that's,

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, drawing up the plays or putting in the

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 2>install and the game plans come to season, but certainly

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 2>in mac Jones's ear, and working with a lot of

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the offensive players all right on the field.

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.359
<v Speaker 1>No team drills yesterday, just positional drills. But it sounded

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>like he was very involved today. And you texted me

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 1>during practice you seemed very excited.

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Little just for real, Well, it's one practice.

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.680
<v Speaker 2>And I would also say that most of the run

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 2>game work that they did today was closer to the

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 2>red zone and goal line situations. Not a ton of

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:49.199
<v Speaker 2>run work in between the twenties, So we didn't necessarily

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 2>get to see if Zeke has a top gear that

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>even exists anymore, right, And I think that's the biggest

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 2>question mark with him for everybody around the league is just.

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>To cut in though? Does that matter? Like honest question,

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>because to me, he's here for inside the twenties in

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.400
<v Speaker 1>short yardage. I don't know that he needs to have

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that top gear to be the back they want him

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to be. It'd be nice, but I don't know that

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 1>he needs to have it. I don't know how much

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna ask. I don't know how many situations he's

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in where that's gonna come up.

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a fair point, and I think that that's what

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 2>we saw today, that that's gonna be his role. And

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.399
<v Speaker 2>I made a joke, I mean and Deuce were joking

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 2>around that. You know, Remandra Stevenson's fantasy owners are already

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 2>up in arms about this.

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's gonna be such a nightmare for and you

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>know me, I don't like fantasy foot Well, it's gonna

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 1>between that and Willie Cunningham. It's gonna be a nightmare

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>for those people.

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really is.

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 2>And I can already see it that Zeke is going

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 2>to be a big time factor inside the ten yard line.

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 2>And today he scored twice, one with from about the

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 2>eight I would say, which was probably the most encouraging

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>grun because he did have to you know, it wasn't

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 2>like a plunge from the one yard line right where

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>he's just growing in such a short space, he did

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 2>have to kind of feed off the blocks and have

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of burst to get through the line.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 3>And get into the end zone.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>And he actually carried a defender, kind of ran through

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 2>a defender into the end zone on that play and

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 2>gave a little little zeke flex at the end.

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 1>You know. So I think we get a little with

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the with the eating.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Not not yet, I haven't gotten.

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>That might be one, you say, for the regular season.

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I would get that this was more of like a

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 2>flex like feeling myself type of moment, right So I

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 2>think that was a good sign. I took that as

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 2>our right like, he feels like he's you know, strong

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and fresh and in good shape and ready to go.

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 2>I thought he looked good consider all things considered. It

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 2>was his first practice of the summer. He obviously hasn't

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 2>been in camp with anybody else, so this is very

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>very first practice and he gets thrown out there in

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>joint practices, which are the most intense training camp practices,

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and held his own and looked pretty good out there.

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought of the two things that really were exciting

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 2>were the power and I thought that he ran pretty

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.719
<v Speaker 2>hard on the carries that he got. And then I

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 2>also thought the energy was good. I thought that he

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>was an uplifted mood. I thought that he looked like

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 2>he was had a little bit of a chip on

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 2>his shoulder. You know, he knows what just happened to him, right,

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 2>He got cut by the Cowboys, and nobody really came

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 2>knocking until August seventeenth to sign him to a contract.

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's going to be something that

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 2>he's going to carry this season.

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 3>So I'm excited about it.

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think the one thing also just to wrap

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 2>it on Zeke him standing next to Ramandre Stevenson and

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Harris.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 3>That's some beef in that running back room.

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And Zeke is every bit as big as those two guys,

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 2>if not bigger.

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 3>I think he's taller than both of those guys.

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 2>And that was I think the big thing that really

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 2>stood out to me just in terms of, you know,

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 2>initial impressions.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 3>He's a big, big dude.

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, he's listed at like six feet two

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, so you know, he's a bigger guy, bigger back.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 2>But he's a really really big back. And I don't

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>mean I don't mean overweight. I just mean big and Uh,

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's another emphasis.

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 3>And we've talked about this a lot.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh that they're they're gonna be a power run team

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 2>like that's they're gonna want to run it down people's throats,

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 2>bull ball, smash mal football and then they have another

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 2>smash mouth running back.

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.359
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0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>emails in a second here. But we do have talked

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>about the offensive line. Evan, was it any better today? Uh?

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I would say it was a little bit better today.

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, you can't.

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna come on here and talk about plays

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 2>and completions that were six seconds into down and you know,

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>three sacks would have happened, right.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 3>I try not to do that.

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 2>We both try not to do that and try to

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 2>only talk about the plays that are were real football plays.

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And if you kind of stack up like the real

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>football plays versus the ones yesterday that just felt like

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 2>something was weird about it, right, like whether it was

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback was holding the ball for six seconds or

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>there was a sack but then he kind of came

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>out of it and just ran the play. Anyways, there

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 2>was a lot more real football plays today than yesterday,

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 2>So I think that that is a testament that the

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 2>offensive line was a little bit better out there. I

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 2>still think every once in a while, and today I

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>had Mac Jones and his reps down with about with

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 2>four sacks on like thirty dropbacks.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 3>So that doesn't sound great, and I get that.

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing with the offensive line from

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>a pass protection standpoint is it's a lot of schemed

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>rushes that are giving them problems, you know, stunts added on,

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>blitzers like things like that. It's not necessarily that guys

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 2>are losing one on one battles across the board. So

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 2>that I think he can at least hold a hat

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>to the fact that maybe that's chemistry continuity, you know,

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>working together, Like you have two rookies in there. You

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 2>have Priley Reef now playing a different position than he

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>started camp with, like Trent Brown still in his third

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 2>padded practice of the summer. So I think that there's

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>something to be said for just a lack of reps

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>that these guys have had together.

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 3>And then you know, Trent Brown said it yesterday.

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>This isn't our core group group, you know, like that's

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>not They still have Cold Strange and Mike on Wentu out.

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 2>They want those guys back, of course, and if they

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>get those guys back and they get it all together,

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens in like let's say a month

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 2>or two. But it's still concerned. It's still absolutely concerned.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Yesterday especially was a mess penalties. I think both quarterbacks

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Mac and Zappi combined for thirteen sacks in yesterday's practice.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 2>It was ugly at times upfront. Absolutely, and the Packers,

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I should mention Rashan Gary is not practicing in full

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 2>for the Packers, right, So they're doing this without their

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>best path, without their Matthew Judon right. So it hasn't

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>been great, but I think it was better today, and

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they are taking some baby steps, especially with

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Trent being back in there.

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that's helped a lot.

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I also think too, just like Conor McDermott not being

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>out there, I don't know if you saw anything happen

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.479
<v Speaker 1>with him yesterday. It seems like he may have been

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>passed over. I think it's probably too early for that.

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>This is a team that can't afford to be giving

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>up on any NFL experience at tackle, so I'd hope

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>he's not fallen too far down the depth chart whatever's

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>going on with him. We've got a bunch of emails

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>about the offensive line, but first I want to go

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Adaen and Aiden in California says, Hey, guys, says he

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>appreciates the show. It has shown him a different way

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to watch the game. Love that. That's the whole point

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>of the show. That's awesome. I'm sorry on YouTube, I'm

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>duck nowt I gotta read this here. With that said,

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>do we think today's practice was a response to getting

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>punched in the face yesterday and the team responded full

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>roar today? Also, is it a good sign that they're

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>all on the same page.

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's exactly what it was.

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>And you you mentioned earlier in the show that on

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>one hand, you can't have a bad day on Sunday

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 2>and then come back Monday and play the same team

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 2>again and get a second chance. That's the unique part

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>about joint practices, I suppose. But I liked the fact

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that they punched back today. And I don't mean that literally,

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean it figuratively. And I think that's you know,

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>that's a good sign. That's a team that I think

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>is that is competing for something. You know, it's not

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>a team that's going nowhere or anything like that. You know,

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>those teams are the ones that just got you know,

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>get down to the dumps and then get their butts

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>kicked again the next day.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 3>So I think that it's it's a good sign.

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, you want both practices to be at least positive,

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and maybe yesterday wasn't quite that, but I'll take it.

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I'll take them punching back a little bit, all right.

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Ray asks any highlights from the offensive line?

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I think highlights from the offensive line

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>is difficult because we don't get the benefit of watching

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.719
<v Speaker 2>the film of practice to really see how good it was.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>But I think the one thing that I mentioned is

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you can hang your hat on the fact that the

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>one on one beats don't look as bad today than yesterday.

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Like it wasn't like guys were losing their one on one.

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 2>It was more about scheme and things like that that

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>was giving them problems. And I thought earlier in practice

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 2>they opened some rushing lanes for Remandre and for Zeke,

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 2>so I think that's a positive as well. But it's

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 2>hard to say exactly if there was like a pancake

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 2>block or something like that without being able to go

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 2>watch it back. But I think the biggest thing that

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>you saw today was a little bit cleaner of an

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>overall operation. Less penalties, less jail break sacks.

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Like things like that. There's a little bit more. It

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 3>was a little bit more competitive.

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>We got a bunch of emails here about the offensive line.

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna combine some of these. David and Bethelon wants

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to know how the new guys are doing city, so

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Antony o'maffi and William wants to know how far all right,

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>so these can kind of combine the I'll combine these

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>two emails William and David here, how are the young

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 1>guys looking, because they've obviously been kind of thrust into

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>starting roles and like based on what it looks like

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>right now. And then William wants to, like how far

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>they are from being healthy. So let me ask you this.

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're we're getting there. We're getting there to

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>week one. Cole Strange still not back on the field,

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Mike and Win who's still not back on the field.

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there's a chance either of those

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>guys end up starting a regular season game like early on?

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And if they do, how ready do you think they look?

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we're starting with the rookies. So has

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>gotten a little bit better each day. I thought his

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>tape last week against the Texans was kind of rough.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I understand that maybe that was not everybody's thinking, So

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe I was being a little bit harsh on him.

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I know he only gave up one, hurry according to PFF.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't necessarily think.

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 2>It was that much of it, like, like he said

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>he gave up one, and he actually gave up five. Like,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was that bad, But it just

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 2>felt like he had a short corner and he was

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>struggling at times to protect the edge and keep guys

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>inside out with Will Anderson and some of the other

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 2>good Texans rushers, and then in the running game, his

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>technique was kind of all over the place, getting really

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, firing out of his stance and getting over

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:41.959
<v Speaker 2>extended off balance like things like that, and not really

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>moving to a.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Lot of guys on the combo of blocks either.

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 2>So that's what I was hoping to see a little

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 2>bit more out of him, and maybe we'll see that

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>as he gets more comfortable with playing tackle. He's a

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>converted guard, right, so, just like with mike on Winne

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>when he's in there at tackle, like you expect those

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>guys to be big run blos when you played inside

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and now you're playing outside. That's a big thing with

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Marcus Cannon. Like Marcus Cannon was a guard and then

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 2>became a tackle, and he was a great run blocker

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>throughout his career because he's built like a guard.

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 3>So city So is similar.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>And I would like to see a little bit better

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>in the run game if he can, you know, to

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 2>see that, to see that guard ability translate outside to tackle.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 2>But I think he's gotten a little bit better. I

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 2>think he's okay. I wouldn't feel great about him starting

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Week one, especially not against the Eagles pass rush in

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 2>their front, but I think that there's something there that

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>that's worth developing, that's worth working with in terms of

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.919
<v Speaker 2>the tools. But I think we're a long way away

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 2>from him being a starter or a consistent starter at

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 2>that Mafi. I continue to like Mafi. I like what

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 2>he brings to the table. I think he plays the

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.439
<v Speaker 2>style of guard. Now he's playing on the left side

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 2>right now. I think he's a right guard in their system.

0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 3>We all do.

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 2>I would assume him. I think, I let you know.

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I like how he plays. I like that he's a

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>powerful guy. He has a really good low center of gravity.

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 2>He's got a good anchor, stout anchor. He can move

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 2>guys in the run game. But he's somebody that is

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 2>tested athletically, and he's practices. He asked him to move

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 2>too much, that's going to be a concern if he

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 2>does get isolated with good pass rushes on the interior.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 2>That has sometimes become a concern. But I like the

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>way that he plays the game from a power standpoint,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and he definitely has NFL play strength, Like there's no

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>doubt that he can hold up on the interior in

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 2>the NFL. From that point of view, if I had

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 2>to say, like which one would I rather start Week one?

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>If I absolutely had to, I'd probably lean towards Mafi.

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's more about guard versus tackle than

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>necessarily him being miles ahead of City.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>So at this point, let's go to the phonetil. Let's

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 1>go to Patty in a pup. Patty how you doing.

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 4>Can you hear me, guys?

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got you all right.

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 4>I had a question for you guys that I was

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 4>a little disappointed that on filter didn't read it and

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 4>or it's maybe just a little bit of a point,

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 4>and that's you know, I don't think there's anybody coming

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 4>to save us as far as offensive tackle this year.

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 4>And Alex, I remember like when this past draft came,

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 4>you were saying, sign one draft one for offensive tackle,

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 4>and to me, like, if I'm running the show, I'm

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 4>taking ot with three of my first four picks this

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 4>year because you're gonna need you're gonna need two starters,

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 4>and you're gonna need a swing guy. And I apologize

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 4>for the noise, but I just wanted to get to

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 4>see what you guys thought about that. But I mean,

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 4>at least as far as this year goes, I think

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 4>we're kind of entrenched with what we got and I

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 4>mean we're just gonna have to live with it and

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 4>hope that everything comes together and.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I don't know that you needed to

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>take three or four tackles at the beginning, but yeah,

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>they've left themselves short there. I wouldn't disagree with that,

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that, Like, I don't think Joan

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Williams is an answer. I don't think they're gonna be

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>able to get him. Outside of that, you know, everybody

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>in the league is struggling at tackle, maybe not as

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>much as the Patriots, but it's not like there's extra tackle.

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not like there's extra tackles teams are trying to

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>give away. So I would agree with that. It's they're

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to figure it out internally and whether that's

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.959
<v Speaker 1>one of these rookies really showing up, whether it's moving

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Mike Go and Wenthu to right tackle, which I think

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>should become a real conversation at this point when he

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>comes back. They're gonna have to figure out something internally.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that, you know, the way they handled

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 2>tackle in the off season is a very very valid

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>second guess about how they handled the off season week.

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the second guess of the off season.

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I talk a lot about receivers.

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I obviously it was upset that they didn't pay DeAndre

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Hopkins and things like that, but the the second guests

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you of the off season is how

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 2>they attack tackle and on the one hand, Calvin Anderson

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I think was supposed to be in this mix, and

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 2>whatever illness he's dealing with is kind of you can't

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 2>predict that, right. You don't know that guys are going

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to get sick like this. They can keep him out

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>for weeks on end. But we knew that Calvin Anderson

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 2>was three years in but more of a project or

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 2>a projection based off of physical tools and athleticism. Riley

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Reef is fourteen years into the league, and we've certainly

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>seen some of that wear and tear in these practices,

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and I think they've moved him inside to guard because

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>he can't play on an island out I tackle anymore,

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>so they've moved him inside the guard to mask some

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.399
<v Speaker 2>of his issues with his foot speed. Already, like three

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.879
<v Speaker 2>weeks in, we're already talking about how Riley Rea.

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Is not a tackle anymore in the NFL.

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 2>So those two things have been big swings in the

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>miss Even if the Calvin Anderson thing was a little

0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 2>bit unlucky and you drafted the only tackle that you

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>drafted was actually a guard in college, so it's certainly

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a second guest that's totally valid, And we've made that

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>second guess already multiple times, so I get it. I

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 2>think that that's really going to make or break the

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 2>season for the team.

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to Nick in New Hampshire.

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 5>Nick, Hey, guys here, can you hear me?

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Yep?

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 5>Great? So yeah, well, personally, thank you for taking my call.

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 5>That's nice to hear that. The offense to do a

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 5>little bit better. I know this last year we were

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 5>not getting good news out of the joint practices. So

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 5>my question for you guys is on Douglass. What are

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 5>your honest predictions for what Douglass to do at the

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 5>beginning of the year, Especially do you think you can

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 5>take snaps away from a guy like Kendrick Born or

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.399
<v Speaker 5>Tycoon Important? And then also with how crowded that wide

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 5>receiver room is. I know a lot of people are

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 5>an ammer inplication on route, especially when he did this

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 5>freshman year at LSU. Do you really think that there's

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 5>a spot on the roster for him?

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>All right, Evan, last week we got into it about

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to Mario Douglas. You said you hadn't seen enough yet

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to say anything. You've now seen, you know, two joint practice,

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a preseason game. Where are you at with him.

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm in a similar spot than I was

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 2>last week. I'm encouraged. I definitely see the twitch, the

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 2>movements to create separation. I thought he had some good

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 2>routes today in the red zone where we saw that

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 2>that just that quick, you know, short area ability to

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 2>get open is certainly there with him. I would actually

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>say if I if I had to tim my cap

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 2>to either one of the rookies, though, I'm meeting a

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 2>little bit of.

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Crow with Kai Shan Boody.

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, Box, I know, I know

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you you know that I haven't been all about the booty.

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 1>You were not impressed with his game against the Texans, No, And.

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really over the moon about anything that he

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 2>had done to camp. In camp to date, I think

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of good there. I shouldn't say

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 2>even a lot. There was three or four one handed

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 2>catches or acrobatic catches that were making highlights and we

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>were tweeting about them right during training camping Foxborough. But

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really think that it was it was overly

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:15.359
<v Speaker 2>consistent or there was a ton of consistent separation from him.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 2>He's had a nice couple of days here in Green Bay.

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Yesterday he made four catches and team drills. It came

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 2>a lot of it was early, but you know, the

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 2>whole offense kind of fizzled out late. So I'm not

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>going to hold that just against Kaisha on Booty, you know,

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.439
<v Speaker 2>and everybody on the offense in the last like two

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.760
<v Speaker 2>thirds of practice was not very good, so I wouldn't

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 2>hold out against him today. I thought that he made

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 2>a really good play in the two minute period at

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the end of practice with Bailey Zappi, you know, running

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 2>a little whip route, keep the feed and bounced by

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 2>the front Pyelon. I think the two things that have

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 2>really stood out to him are not necessarily things that

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 2>we I think thought based off of his college projection. Certainly,

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the hands, like he had a ton of drops in college,

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 2>like ross was an issue for him at LSU, and

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 2>he's had great hands I think so far, and good

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.439
<v Speaker 2>body control like those are two things that I think

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 2>he's been has done well. But the wiggle maybe not

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>there as much as with the Mario Douglas. But I

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 2>think he's had a strong couple of days here, and

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I not that Douglas has been bad. I think both

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 2>those guys have had moments and have shown well here

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 2>in Green Bay. But I think that if I had

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 2>to say which one was I more impressed by in

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 2>which one of my second guessing my initial take on

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>it's it's probably a little bit more Booty because I

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe I was a little bit higher on Douglass before.

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.919
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Booty make and Evan do a double take. I'll

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you this. I think I heard Matt through the

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>glass laugh at that one. The sixth To answer the

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.240
<v Speaker 1>second part of the Collars question, the six wide receiver

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 1>thing is very real, very real. Yeah, especially if Tae

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Kwan's hurt and they can get them on and then

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>ir them so.

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 2>But that's a different conversation, right, Like, if they know

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 2>that Taekwan is not going to start the year, then

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 2>they have to carry six because they're gonna need at

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 2>least four on game day.

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>That's true, but they could in a different day, they could,

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.359
<v Speaker 1>in theory, try to cut one of the rookies and

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>and then try to get them back. Yeah. I think

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at a situation where those two guys are

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be on the fifty three man roster and

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the other thing that helps is between cutting Jordan Healy

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 1>and DeMarcus Mitchell the last couple of days. Those are

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>guys we thought were maybe not roster locks, but close

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>in terms of that special teams unit. And they seem

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>to be kind of cutting down on their dedicated specialists.

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's going to open up more spots. And you

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>look where does it open up a spot? Right away?

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>You look to that wide receiver room and say, all right,

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that's how you're gonna get six wide receivers on the board.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm still not rolling out them keeping two kickers. I'm

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>not rolling it out entirely.

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Please, you sound the way you said that lets me

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>know that you know it's a possibility.

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 2>Of course, anything involving special teams that's ridiculous with Bill

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Belichick as a possibility.

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, don't roll it out.

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 2>I I think with the S, I'm hoping that the

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 2>cover Jase is as I as we like to call them.

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I hope that they're gonna be a little bit more

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>scarce this year. Like obviously Matthew Slater is going to

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>be on this team, and I think Brandon's schoolers should

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:10.919
<v Speaker 2>be on the team as well.

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I think there's gonna be three. I think it's gonna

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>be Slater Schooler and Calvin Munson.

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I I and we don't count Chris Board, right.

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, Chris Boards a linebacker. He's like Brandon Bolden

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.439
<v Speaker 1>on defense, Like Brandon Bolden played a lot of special

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>teams when he was a running back.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Right, so Chris Boards, you know, a position player.

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I would like to see them only carry those two

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 2>because A I think they have some talent in other

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 2>areas of the roster that they need to keep the

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 2>depth at, like receiver, tight end, you know, other places

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 2>like that, maybe running back.

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 3>If they want to carry all four of.

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 2>These running backs, yeah, that is something that I would

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 2>like to see them. Do you know Malie Cunningham, like

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 2>is he I think he's got a chance to make

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 2>this team now.

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've just been including him as a quarterback

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>at this point.

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 2>So those guys are all guys that if you keep

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 2>six special teams guys and you're not gonna be able

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 2>to carry all all of this extra depth. I think

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:08.400
<v Speaker 2>that the big thing with you know, the six receiver

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>thing for me is I just don't see Bill Belichick

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 2>ever doing it unless it's a special circumstance like Taekwan

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 2>is going to be put on i R immediately, and

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>they need to carry six and not not risk the

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.760
<v Speaker 2>waiver process with Douglas or Booty. But if it's just

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 2>six straight up, I just can't see it Bill doing that.

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I just think that they like to carry their depth

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 2>in other places and always have. I mean there's been

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 2>years where they've only carried four receivers.

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But again, I think they're doing things differently this year.

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna look a little different. I think

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the six wide receiver thing really is in play. Somebody,

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm laughing somebody in the YouTube chat when I

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about having two kickers, somebody said the legion of boom.

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the legion of feet. It should be a great

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:52.760
<v Speaker 1>hay for the special teams from let's go to Niles

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>in Oklahoma and Niles what's up?

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 6>Just kind of want to touching which you guys are

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 6>just talking about. Uh, just with the NFL changing the

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 6>kickoff rule, do you think that kind of plays a

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 6>role or while the Patriots are kind of getting rid

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 6>of these guys that we kind of thought were roster,

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 6>Loxboro's specialty. That's kind of all I got for you guys,

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 6>and I appreciate it.

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think that's possibly part of it.

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so too.

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 2>And I also just look at in general, it's the

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 2>kickoff rules changed. There's just less special team snaps to

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.839
<v Speaker 2>go around than there was five ten years ago. Like

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 2>it just you know, we always joke with each other

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 2>about it being the third of the game, but even

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 2>you have to admit, Alex, it's not statistically even the

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 2>third of the game, right, Like it's like.

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>He's probably close to No, it's more than fifteen, Evan's not.

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>There's there's four downs, one of them is special teams.

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 1>That's twenty five percent. Plus you have like kickoffs that

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.439
<v Speaker 1>don't count. Is it down? Then a game book?

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Go look at a game book from last year and

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 2>look at, like what the guys that played the most

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 2>special teams snaps on the Patriots play. It's like twenty

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 2>snaps a game. The offensive guys plays sixty five to

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 2>eighty snaps a game.

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, So.

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 2>If there's if there's let's say there's eighty plays on offense,

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.719
<v Speaker 2>eighty plays on defense in the regular NFL game, and

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 2>then there's maybe twenty plays of special teams for your

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>for your you know, I don't know if it's you.

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>You you like this high scoring football, higher scoring, higher scoring,

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>more special teams plays.

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, more special teams plays of them kicking off into.

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 3>The back of the ends of the extra points. Really

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.320
<v Speaker 3>we have to worry about extra points.

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 2>The one thing that I remember about extra points is

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 2>that Rob Gronkowski broke his force.

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:50.479
<v Speaker 1>All Right, we don't need to just all right, Mark

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Mark in Connecticut, Mark.

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 7>Hey, yeah, guys, how you're doing it good?

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>How's it going?

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 7>Just wanted to ask you, uh, because you guys already

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 7>answered the wide receiver questions with Douglas and Boots. Offensive line,

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 7>Is there a way that Bill O'Brien can scheme around

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 7>how terrible our offensive line is?

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, I mean we've we've talked a lot about

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 1>this in the past. It's it's uh, you know, play action,

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it's quick passing concepts. Incorporating things like screens RPOs is

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a big one. Evan. I know that that's your kind

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of that's where you like to go in this conversation.

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>There are it kind of limits your ability to to

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 1>get big plays in terms of throwing the ball down

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the field. You can still get big plays in the

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 1>passing game on catch and run. But yeah, there are

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 1>there are ways to do that. It's just being able

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.280
<v Speaker 1>to do it. It's it's easier said than done.

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I look, I'm maybe I'm being too optimistic about

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the offensive line, but I I'm trying to to be

0:49:55.680 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>patient with it because there's two reasons. One Cold Strange

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 2>and Mike on Win, who are a huge part of

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:04.240
<v Speaker 2>what they want to do on the offense.

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not gonna be this bad. Like that's kind

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 1>of caveats all of this. It's it's not that it's

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna be this bad. They'll get healthy. It's if they

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 1>get hurt again and some of these guys have to play,

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that's where the real concern comes in, right.

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Cold Strange is the first round pick last year.

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows my feelings about the fact that he was

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:24.359
<v Speaker 2>a first round pick. But that being said, like it's

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 2>not relevant now, that's supposed to be a good player

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:30.360
<v Speaker 2>for you, right, like a really rock solid guard for

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 2>you for years to come. Mike on WINU is I

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>think one of their best football players on their entire roster.

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Just regardless of position.

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 2>So those two guys coming back if they can keep

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.439
<v Speaker 2>that sturdy interior, or maybe Mike on Win who kicks

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 2>out to right tackle. But I think what they would

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.839
<v Speaker 2>like to do is have strange Andrews on when who

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 2>build that shelf for mac Jones to just sit right

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 2>back behind them and make throws from the pocket, so

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you know they can do that.

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.319
<v Speaker 3>And you have Trent on the left side, you have

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Bill O'Brien.

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Scheming the different things that you didn't played out, Alex, Like,

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it necessarily is going to be absolutely terrible. Like,

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's gonna be horrible. Do I think

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be good or elite or great or whatever. No,

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But I do think it's gonna be passable. Yeah, I

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 2>think it could be passable with all those different configurations

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.919
<v Speaker 2>and all those different circumstances rolling into one. We want

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 2>to talk a little bit about the defense though, we.

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel bad. It's been like three shows in

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 1>a row and we're supposed to be the show that

0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>touches on everything, and I hope people stuck around to

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the end to hear us do the defense, And yeah,

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to get to some starters in a bit.

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>But we got an email on this, and I think

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it's actually a really good question Kyle in Pembroke asking

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:48.439
<v Speaker 1>about Isaiah Bolden and I, look, I think that that's

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>still one of the most interesting battles in this camp,

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that third boundary corner spot behind Christigan Zalez and Jack Jones.

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:57.399
<v Speaker 1>If you can keep John Jones in the slot, who's

0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>it going to be? It was Isaiah Bolden had a

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of really good days there and then I thought

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:04.080
<v Speaker 1>he sorted. I don't think he backtracked, but he kind

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:08.359
<v Speaker 1>of leveled off heading into that preseason game. We've seen

0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a mere speed start to make some plays. Sean Wade

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I heard had a really good day yesterday. Where are

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>those guys at? Like, is there suddenly some talent here?

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Look, I think Isaiah Bolden, I really like his instincts.

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I think he's an instinctual player on the boundary. A

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 2>mere speed has a little bit more noticeable plays, I

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:30.800
<v Speaker 2>would say on the ball out here. You know the

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 2>last two days I'm talking about. He made some plays

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.279
<v Speaker 2>on the ball yesterday that were impressive plays. But I

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 2>really we might we maybe should be talking a little

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 2>bit more about Sean Wade, Like, OK, I'm not sitting

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 2>here saying that Sean Wade is gonna be like a

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 2>difference maker. Like, don't get me wrong, but I think

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 2>we should be talking a little bit more about him

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 2>making the fifty three man roster. Now, he's a nickel corner,

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 2>like he's a spot. I don't think he's going to

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 2>play on the outside consistently well, he doesn't have the

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 2>long speed. It's a lot like you know, a Jalen

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Mills kind of situation where he's just better inside.

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 3>It's just the way that he plays.

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 2>So I think Sean Wade in the nickel spot or

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Sean Wade playing like that hybrid safety nickel role that

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 2>they tend to lean on a little bit. It gives

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you a little bit of size, maybe not on the boundary,

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 2>but it just gives you a little size somewhere that's

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:29.399
<v Speaker 2>bigger than Marcus Jones or Miles Bryant or those types

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 2>of players. And he's made some really heads up plays lately.

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 3>He just has.

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 2>And he had a really nice showing, not anything spectacular

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 2>or anything like jaw dropping, but I thought he played

0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:45.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty well against the Texans last week. On film, hanging

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 2>with John Metchi for most of that game. So we'll

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.279
<v Speaker 2>see what it looks like on Saturday night. For Sean

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Wade if he has another good game, I think that,

0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, we should be talking about him as a

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 2>fifty three man roster guy. I just really quickly too

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 2>on these Packers receivers. Christian Watson is making me like,

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:09.720
<v Speaker 2>very very upset, Alex, because that guy is a stud.

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what a freaking player that dude is gonna

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 2>be h if the light continues to be on for

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 2>him and the arrow continues to point upward. Explosive, really

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 2>good in and out of the break for a guy

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 2>at his size.

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:26.320
<v Speaker 3>He's made some.

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Really really good plays out here the last couple of days.

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:31.239
<v Speaker 2>So the Patriots are are are dealing with a pretty

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 2>good receiver in him, and I think Dobbs has actually

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 2>been pretty good too, Uh that both those guys have

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 2>been pretty solid.

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Love, you know.

0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Not so much in my opinion, but I thought the

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:44.440
<v Speaker 2>receivers for the Packers have been good. In a Musgrave

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the tight end drafted, he's he's been effective, you know,

0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:52.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a Mica Sicki type running the seam

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and making catches, you know, outside his frame and things

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 2>like that. So a couple of good receivers here for

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 2>the Packers. It's not a better day for today. For

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Christian Gonzales yesterday. Yeah, yesterday was a little bit of

0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.760
<v Speaker 2>a rookie, you know, welcome to the NFL against Christian Watson.

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Like it's no offense again to the Patriots receivers, but

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:16.440
<v Speaker 2>they don't have a guy as explosive as Christian Watson.

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:19.479
<v Speaker 2>They just don't have somebody that's six three and runs

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 2>a four to three on their roster. Well they do,

0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 2>but he's you know, is Taekwon Uh. I think with

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Gonzales yesterday, the one thing that that really showed up

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and this is what happened with him on the deep

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 2>touchdown that him and Mills were in the area of

0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 2>he gets sucked up in the in the middle of

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the field a little bit in zone and with the

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Patriots and with most zone coverages, when you're in cover

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 2>three and you have the deep third, right, so you're

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 2>you're responsible for that one third of the field and

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:52.320
<v Speaker 2>the deep part of the field if you're a receiver

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:54.800
<v Speaker 2>that lines up across from you. And I wish I

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 2>had like we don't have whiteboards. I can't really describe this,

0:55:57.719 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>so just follow me if you can. If there was

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 2>receiver and lined up across from you, runs underneath you,

0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 2>then you're supposed to let it go right like, You're

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 2>not supposed to follow that receiver into the middle of

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:11.360
<v Speaker 2>the field. Instead, you're what you're supposed to do is

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 2>drop and get depth and get to the deep part

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.240
<v Speaker 2>of the field and then look kind of angle yourself

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:19.799
<v Speaker 2>to look inside to see if anything is coming from

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the back side.

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 3>And what happened was is Christian Gonzale Christian Watson. Excuse me.

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I started on the right side of the quarterback, Gonzalez

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:29.799
<v Speaker 2>was on the left side of the quarterback. Watson ran

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the deep over the deep crossing route and by the

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 2>time Gonzalez realized that he was crossing from the other

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 2>side of the formation, it was too late. So I

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 2>thought that that was a good coachable moment for him,

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.359
<v Speaker 2>and he's got to get better at that and zone

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 2>And this was something that came up with him at

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Oregon as well. But if you ask him to cover

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 2>man to man, I still think that he was competitive

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 2>throughout practice over the last couple of days and had

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 2>a really good pass breakup at the end of practice

0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:59.799
<v Speaker 2>today in the two minute to save a touchdown. So

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:02.839
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of positives from his man

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 2>demand work, his own work.

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:05.920
<v Speaker 3>He still gets a little bit lost.

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 1>The other really interesting thing I wish we'd gotten to

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 1>see this year, but Marte Mopu out of the non

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>contact jersey, so a chance to judge him when it

0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>comes to full contact. It sounded like today he made

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 1>his presence felt in that regard.

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I mean I've never really been too concerned

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:24.959
<v Speaker 2>about his ability from a physical standpoint because a sack State,

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 2>he was a really physical downhill player at the Senior Bowl.

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>He's playing guys that are much bigger now than he

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was at Sex. Being two thirty is a linebacker Sacramento

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:37.360
<v Speaker 1>State's much different than being two thirty as a linebacker

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL.

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally fair.

0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I just the way that he plays, you know, he

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 2>converts that speed to power, right, because he's so explosive

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that when he puts his foot in the ground and

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 2>goes forward that he can build up a lot of

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.440
<v Speaker 2>speed and now all of a sudden, it's like you know,

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 2>trying to block a missile, right, so I think that's

0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:00.120
<v Speaker 2>that's really where he has stood out throughout you know,

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 2>the film that I've watched of him back in college.

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm really interested to see him on film on Saturday night,

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Like hopefully he plays in the game on Saturday night

0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 2>at full contact. Yeah, and then we can actually dissect

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 2>some game tape of how he looks out there and

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>where they're using him in different things like that, a

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of other you know, just notes on the defense. Yeah,

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I really thought that Keon White was like having a

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 2>great two days. And you know, the injury, I don't

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna end up being serious. But whenever you

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 2>watch these joint practices, and you know this from watching

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:36.120
<v Speaker 2>them back at home, when the other team starts to

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 2>get annoyed with the player, it's probably because that player is, like,

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:44.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, playing at one hundred and ten percent is good, right.

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Especially if it's a guy in the trenches.

0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:51.480
<v Speaker 2>So Keon White is throwing his weight around, making his

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 2>presence felt, and the Packers started to get like fed

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 2>up with it, right, Like they were just you know,

0:58:57.120 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 2>getting annoyed at like this freaking guy just keeps coming

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 2>at us like Jesus, and uh, That's what I just

0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:07.160
<v Speaker 2>love about his game. He's got a NonStop motor, like

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 2>he's all all the time at one hundred percent.

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna be a really good player.

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Christian Barmore, I thought, has had a pretty good couple

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 2>of days too. I think that he's coming on and

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be good as well.

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 3>The defense.

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, yesterday was the big play to Christian Watson

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 2>was was the big backbreaker for the defense. I think

0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the one thing that maybe the Packers had some success

0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 2>with today and yesterday was in breaking routes.

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 2>That's some stuff that I think that they're still working

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 2>on in terms of leverage and help. You know, we

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 2>know Devin mccordy's not back there in the middle of

0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the field anymore.

0:59:39.840 --> 0:59:40.600
<v Speaker 3>That's a big thing.

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>But even just help from the second level, whether it's

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:46.440
<v Speaker 2>like a rober defender or linebackers dropping into low holes

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:47.360
<v Speaker 2>or things like that.

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Their system, they these corners are gonna be outside leverage, right,

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 2>so they're gonna be outside positioned on these receivers across

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 2>the board, and we've seen in the past how shallow

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 2>crosser slants like those things can give them.

1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 3>A lot of trouble.

1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I thought the Packers were able to emphasize some of

1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that against the defense the last couple of days. So

1:00:07.800 --> 1:00:09.920
<v Speaker 2>that continues to be I think a work in progress

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.880
<v Speaker 2>of just knowing where your help is and having to

1:00:12.920 --> 1:00:15.600
<v Speaker 2>help be there consistently. And then also the guys that

1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:18.880
<v Speaker 2>are out leveraged working to fight leverage and things like

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 2>that is going to have to be something that they're

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna get a little bit better at. But I think

1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.560
<v Speaker 2>the front spit was pretty good the last couple of days,

1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and that you know today Jordan Love installed in both

1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:31.360
<v Speaker 2>of his two minute drill drives. They had a really

1:00:31.360 --> 1:00:34.400
<v Speaker 2>good ending to practice. Jordan Loves an interesting player that

1:00:34.480 --> 1:00:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you think about him before we

1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:36.880
<v Speaker 2>wrap it here.

1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't love him in the draft. You know, coming

1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>out of you is Utah State, right, I was getting

1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Utah State and Nevada mixed up. But because you know

1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:51.520
<v Speaker 1>same area, he's yeah, you State. Yeah. That Mountain West

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Conference is always wide open. And you see these big

1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:57.880
<v Speaker 1>armed quarterbacks that did come out of there, and I

1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:01.120
<v Speaker 1>think the elevation helps them a little bit and they

1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 1>just never catch it that the windows are much tighter

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:05.600
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL than they are in the Mountain West

1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and they never catch up to that. Maybe he will.

1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:10.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think a guy like Christian Watson, like you

1:01:10.840 --> 1:01:14.240
<v Speaker 1>talk about a quarterback and receiver in theory pairing their

1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:17.960
<v Speaker 1>skill sets, I think that's a really good fit. We'll

1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:19.400
<v Speaker 1>see if they can get there. I don't think he's

1:01:19.400 --> 1:01:21.400
<v Speaker 1>bad by any means, Like, he's definitely a guy that's

1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:25.560
<v Speaker 1>worth getting a look to start. I don't think he's

1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:27.360
<v Speaker 1>like I don't think the Packers are totally out of

1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:29.160
<v Speaker 1>left field by trying to put it in his hands.

1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:31.240
<v Speaker 1>But I'm also I'm not saying like he's gonna be

1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.600
<v Speaker 1>their next franchise quarterback. I think he's kind of a

1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:34.800
<v Speaker 1>boomer bust kind of player.

1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, I think that he is.

1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:42.280
<v Speaker 1>And I know that's that's a super sensu fence sitting take,

1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:43.080
<v Speaker 1>but whatever.

1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:46.320
<v Speaker 3>No, it's fair. I think that there's two sides of

1:01:46.400 --> 1:01:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Love.

1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:50.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like, in one world he's Zach Wilson and in

1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:51.400
<v Speaker 2>one world he's Josh Allen.

1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:53.000
<v Speaker 3>But there's no in between, right.

1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:55.120
<v Speaker 1>But I almost feel like I almost feel like he's

1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:58.240
<v Speaker 1>exactly halfway in between, and that's what's gonna be interesting.

1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that gonna be enough for the packers? Yeah, that

1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:02.640
<v Speaker 1>can be up for the packers to commit to him

1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:07.880
<v Speaker 1>long term because he's on he's on a one year deal, right, well,

1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.000
<v Speaker 1>he's on his rookie dear, he's on his he's on

1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:11.640
<v Speaker 1>his fifth year option.

1:02:12.600 --> 1:02:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay. I thought I didn't know if this was four

1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:15.800
<v Speaker 3>year four year five.

1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:18.960
<v Speaker 1>He was no, because he was the twenty twenty draft,

1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:21.440
<v Speaker 1>So oh no, this is your four you're right.

1:02:22.040 --> 1:02:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he Uh, he's been interesting because he's been

1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:29.160
<v Speaker 2>There's been moments where he's been a little bit spotty,

1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.480
<v Speaker 2>you know with his accuracy, which is to be expected.

1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:34.080
<v Speaker 2>He's got tons of arm talent. You know, he can

1:02:34.320 --> 1:02:37.480
<v Speaker 2>he can make all of those like crazy off platform

1:02:37.520 --> 1:02:39.880
<v Speaker 2>throws that make everybody go nuts, that that you know

1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes does and Alan does and things like that.

1:02:43.040 --> 1:02:43.200
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

1:02:43.240 --> 1:02:45.640
<v Speaker 2>The structure of stuff, though, is going to be the

1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:48.200
<v Speaker 2>make or break for him. He made some good instruction

1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:50.880
<v Speaker 2>throws yesterday. I thought, you know, on some of those

1:02:50.960 --> 1:02:52.920
<v Speaker 2>lands and things like that. That and he's been checking

1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:55.880
<v Speaker 2>down a lot apparently that's what the uh, A lot

1:02:55.880 --> 1:02:58.439
<v Speaker 2>of the packer media here, yeah, has said that he's

1:02:58.440 --> 1:03:03.000
<v Speaker 2>been throwing a ton of checkdowns in practice to start camp.

1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:06.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where he don't.

1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I think he makes better decisions than he did early

1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:11.440
<v Speaker 2>on in his career, and certainly in college. I remember

1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:13.520
<v Speaker 2>in college he threw like thirty picks one year or

1:03:13.520 --> 1:03:14.000
<v Speaker 2>something like.

1:03:13.960 --> 1:03:15.800
<v Speaker 1>That, because that's what the Mountain West is. That that's

1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:17.960
<v Speaker 1>what all those teams are, all those offenses are just

1:03:18.000 --> 1:03:18.760
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball up.

1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's made some better decisions from what

1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I've seen, but it is very boom or bust with him.

1:03:25.960 --> 1:03:29.040
<v Speaker 2>It's either hitting at all the cylinders or you know,

1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:32.040
<v Speaker 2>the offense is struggling to string together a first down.

1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:33.920
<v Speaker 1>The checkout thing, I almost feel like is a good

1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.400
<v Speaker 1>sign for him, because a lot of those quarterbacks like

1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:38.080
<v Speaker 1>this was a big problem with Josh Allen early in

1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:40.640
<v Speaker 1>his career. He wouldn't be patient, he wouldn't take the checkdown.

1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:42.840
<v Speaker 1>He'd make stupid throws instead and try to force it.

1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:44.919
<v Speaker 1>So if he's checking it down, maybe that's a good sign.

1:03:44.920 --> 1:03:47.560
<v Speaker 1>He's also on a really weird contract. I forgot about this,

1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:51.160
<v Speaker 1>So his rookie deals up. He's signed for the next

1:03:51.160 --> 1:03:53.280
<v Speaker 1>two years, and then there's three years of dead money,

1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:57.760
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's I don't know that's a whole thing.

1:03:58.080 --> 1:04:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Good luck to the Packers to caring that out, But

1:04:00.480 --> 1:04:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk about another quarterback. We got

1:04:02.680 --> 1:04:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a late email here and then we're gonna quick special

1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:09.880
<v Speaker 1>teams thing can get out of here. Alex in Raleigh,

1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:13.440
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina asked, is Malik Cunningham playing quarterback just a

1:04:13.520 --> 1:04:16.600
<v Speaker 1>preseason thing or something that we're gonna see?

1:04:18.240 --> 1:04:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I will say this, Malik Cunningham practiced at quarterback

1:04:24.600 --> 1:04:27.880
<v Speaker 2>yesterday and he only took four snaps. They were all

1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:31.520
<v Speaker 2>run plays, you know, designed quarterback around stuff, read option stuff.

1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:34.920
<v Speaker 2>But if this was all about you know, there's that

1:04:35.000 --> 1:04:37.840
<v Speaker 2>theory out there, Alex, that this might be about Jalen Hurts, right,

1:04:37.920 --> 1:04:41.280
<v Speaker 2>and then getting the Patriots defense ready to face the

1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Eagles in Week one and the other read option quarterbacks

1:04:44.080 --> 1:04:46.200
<v Speaker 2>that they might face down the road, and trying to

1:04:46.240 --> 1:04:49.160
<v Speaker 2>emphasize this more early on in the in the summer

1:04:49.880 --> 1:04:52.080
<v Speaker 2>so that the defense gets used to seeing those looks.

1:04:52.320 --> 1:04:53.920
<v Speaker 2>If that was the case, and they would not be

1:04:54.000 --> 1:04:56.800
<v Speaker 2>practicing these actions against the Packers defense, Like what would

1:04:56.800 --> 1:04:59.440
<v Speaker 2>be the point, right, We're getting the Packers defense ready

1:04:59.440 --> 1:05:02.200
<v Speaker 2>for for those matchups, Like why would they care about that.

1:05:02.800 --> 1:05:05.800
<v Speaker 2>So this isn't uh, this is a thing like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is something that they're trying to see if this would

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<v Speaker 2>be an option for them. I'm still not one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent certain if it's real or if it's just experimenting

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<v Speaker 2>in the summertime. He didn't get as many reps at

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback today.

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<v Speaker 3>Today. It was all Mac Johns.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that Bill has that thing right where

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all one week. It's not the practice in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason game and the guys that practice more play

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<v Speaker 1>less and vice versa. That might be because they're planning on

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<v Speaker 1>playing Millie cunning him a lot. Yeah, Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a very Saturday. Yeah, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good way of looking at it. I I I was

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about it after practice, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about if Mac was going to to

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<v Speaker 2>play on Saturday, and I think that he might play

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<v Speaker 2>like you know that typical get your feet wet preseason amount,

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<v Speaker 2>right like one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the third.

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<v Speaker 2>Sason game will be more of the one where they

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<v Speaker 2>try to give the leave the starters out there a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. But I think you could be right that

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<v Speaker 2>we could see a lot of Milie Cunningham, and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>for some of us, we might see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Trace mcsorly because Trace mcsory did not throw practically any

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<v Speaker 2>passes in practice over the last two days.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't do it when they were here either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think that we could see you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trace mcsorly in Malie cutting him, hopefully Milie cunning Gham.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be a little bit more exciting uh for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Entire second half on UH ON on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, I think it's the theory of

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<v Speaker 2>it's just an Eagles thing is out the door because

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<v Speaker 2>they did it against a different defense now, so I

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<v Speaker 2>continue to think that they might want to see if

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<v Speaker 2>they can keep this in their back pocket and have

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, I don't know if i'd call it

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a wildcat because it's not like they're using a

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<v Speaker 2>non quarterback, but a wild cat like package just for

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<v Speaker 2>Malik Cuttingham, maybe in goal line, short yardage, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that type of situation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Evin, you got to be me this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not there. You're the eyes, you're the boots on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Talk to me about these specialists.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up with your boy, behinger Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not there. You tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>It hasn't been good. It hasn't been pretty for all Bearinger. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in a little bit of a rut right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that breaks you and Brian Harns hinds his

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<v Speaker 2>heart to hear that he's been a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a rut. I thought today it looked like Corless Weightman

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<v Speaker 2>actually let off the period on special teams and has

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<v Speaker 2>been you know Corliss weightman style, Like it's just consistent.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not anything wowing you or impressive about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty consistent. And I think that that's where we're

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<v Speaker 2>at right now. I think Bearinger has got a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of the yips, Alex. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a little bit of a concern there.

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<v Speaker 2>Something seems off with him. Maybe I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a I'm not a technique expert when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to punters, but there's something a little bit off,

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<v Speaker 2>and the hang times have been low, and Weightman's been

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<v Speaker 2>coming on a little bit more right like his Weightman's

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<v Speaker 2>been getting a little bit more of a look I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think the kickers have been tough too, though,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's it's incredibly windy here the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's kicking. A lot of the kicks have died,

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<v Speaker 2>but there wasn't a ton of kicking today. In terms

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<v Speaker 2>of kick field goals, yesterday Folk went four for five.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryland was three for five, So basically the same. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say. Ryland, though, continues to have the much bigger leg,

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<v Speaker 2>which we knew. Your two kicker theory is one that

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<v Speaker 2>drives me up an absolute wall.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's very college like right to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so you can kick off and your long field

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<v Speaker 1>goal guy and then you have your short field goal guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It drives you crazy because you know it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it drives any crazy because they were wasting a

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<v Speaker 2>roster spot on two kickers.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but like you could easily because I know you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you thought there was no shot at all that

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<v Speaker 1>it was happening, you would say, stop talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not happening. In the in the weeks since I

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<v Speaker 1>brought that up, you have not once said to me

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<v Speaker 1>it's not happening, stop talking about it. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I would do it I wouldn't. I would go with

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<v Speaker 1>Chad rolland you draft him in the fourth round. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's good, you let him work through the growing pains,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Folk. Either he's good in whatever, or he's he's good,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're still kind of wasting a ross spot. Or

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<v Speaker 1>he's bad and you cut him in a couple weeks anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and who'd you let go instead? But I can't rule

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<v Speaker 1>it out. I can't rule it out just yet. They

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done anything to show me I can rule it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you know that because you have not

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<v Speaker 1>once told me to stop talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, And it would be very Patriots that the

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots would basically be a college team, be because they'll

1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:04.360
<v Speaker 2>have Malie Cunningham as their running quarterback and Mac Jones

1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:08.479
<v Speaker 2>is the passing and then they would have like their

1:10:08.479 --> 1:10:11.400
<v Speaker 2>short field goals specialists and their long field goals specialists.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Patriots becoming a college football team, which I

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<v Speaker 2>know has been your dream for.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bill O'Brien. Bill O'Brien last year at Alabama was

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<v Speaker 1>a booth coach rather than a sideline coach, which is

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<v Speaker 1>way more popular in college in the NFL. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the bill would go for that, and that's a conversation. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I met he was on the sideline last week, right, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be something interesting to watch here, because didn't

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<v Speaker 1>they try Patricia who did they try up in the

1:10:37.320 --> 1:10:39.800
<v Speaker 1>booth last year or was it two years ago? For

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<v Speaker 1>like one week and then that was it was Patricia.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, Patricia was on the side. It was Billy Yates.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy Yah was on in the booth, and then Patricia

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to coach the court, the offensive line and

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<v Speaker 2>call plays all at the same time, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>brought Billy Yates back down.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to tell you, and I know a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of guys do it, so it's it's obviously not as

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<v Speaker 2>hard as it looks in some respects, like obviously at

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<v Speaker 2>all it's all hard. But you know, Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid,

1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Josh McDaniels, those guys are all head coaches, so they

1:11:08.880 --> 1:11:12.000
<v Speaker 2>all call the game from the sideline. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how you do call the game from the sideline

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<v Speaker 2>because you can't see the plays develop as easily.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got this awesome new video board to look and

1:11:20.560 --> 1:11:24.040
<v Speaker 1>check out. I think that's why all honestly. Yeah, I

1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:26.599
<v Speaker 1>think that's why you've got like Evan Rothstein upstairs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what his role is.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have guys up top, and you know, Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick does this for the defense. I'm not sure who

1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:35.120
<v Speaker 2>does it for the offense. You know, obviously new staff,

1:11:35.120 --> 1:11:37.800
<v Speaker 2>new oc, right, but they have they have guys up

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<v Speaker 2>top that chart the game and once the game starts

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<v Speaker 2>to declare, like they oh, they're playing us in a

1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:44.519
<v Speaker 2>lot of man, they're playing us in a lot of

1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:48.879
<v Speaker 2>two coverage three, you know whatever, then that gets relayed

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<v Speaker 2>down to the play callers and that's when they try

1:11:51.320 --> 1:11:54.479
<v Speaker 2>to you know, spam the two cover two beaters for example,

1:11:54.560 --> 1:11:58.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is that once the game declares. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that that's really impressive skill to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to call a game from field level and understand

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<v Speaker 2>what the defense is doing and what the coverages are

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<v Speaker 2>and what the shells are and like all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they do that, but that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a little that's a conversation for a couple of weeks

1:12:13.120 --> 1:12:16.320
<v Speaker 2>like that between gap. That will be an interesting one

1:12:16.360 --> 1:12:16.519
<v Speaker 2>to have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be interesting to watch people forget Hugh freeze

1:12:19.160 --> 1:12:21.000
<v Speaker 1>once Head coached a game from a hospital bed in

1:12:21.040 --> 1:12:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the coaching box upstairs, so shout out to him for

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<v Speaker 1>that one. All right, we're gonna we're gonna cut it

1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:28.639
<v Speaker 1>on that. That's gonna wrap up this episode. Evan obviously

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<v Speaker 1>has all his stuff up on Patriots dot com, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can go check that out if there was anything

1:12:33.000 --> 1:12:35.479
<v Speaker 1>we didn't get to from today's practice. We will be

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<v Speaker 1>back next week Thursday again. Next week, right, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Thursday will be the off day next week.

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<v Speaker 1>That is gonna be very interesting because that is the

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<v Speaker 1>day of the Bruce Springsteen concert. So I will I

1:12:44.920 --> 1:12:47.280
<v Speaker 1>will probably go right from this to that, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back in the right right. No, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna walk right out of here and go out

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be perfect. And I'm gonna get your

1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:55.439
<v Speaker 1>favorite Springsteen songs because you had me do that for

1:12:55.520 --> 1:12:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift. So there's the tease for next week again.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back then to meet Ti'm Evan has all

1:13:00.640 --> 1:13:02.519
<v Speaker 1>this stuff up on Patriots dot com. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>me over at ninety eight five thesportsub dot com. Forevan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazaramlex Barth, thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. We'll talk

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