1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. So we also have seen a lot 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: of new swirling around Nolan Wells the tragic death of 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: Nolan Wells. I got to see his family, Garrison enjoy 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: at the NAACP. But I think we should get into 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: like everything that's swirling around online and what we actually 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: know versus what we don't. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. So it's a lot of 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: conversation online right now. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: You know. 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: One of the things that I love to see over 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: the weekend was so many people just posting the name 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: Nolan Wells, like we're not letting this fade away, And 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: I think that's so important, So I'm glad we're talking 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: about it. Audio engineer Janetta Brantley did some engineering on 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: a phone call that was made to Cetoe by some 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: of Nolan Well's alleged friends. She did some cleanup on 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: that audio so that you can kind of make out 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of what was being discussed in the background, 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: and it is sparking a lot of conversation. There's also 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: been reports coming out of TMZ and other sources about 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Nolan well saying that he was drinking quote unquote heavily 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: on the island, and that's been a part of the. 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: Discussion prosecuting him after his death. 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: So yeah, let's let's talk about that. Angela. 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: Well, I think that one. I do think we should 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 4: listen to this audio. 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: But I think regardless of if he was drinking or not, 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: those boys were all sitting in a picture with beer, 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: all of them are drinking. If you listen to this audio, 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: which I know we're going to do shortly, you the dude, 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: the young man sounds like he's inebriated, you know. 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: So it's just like, why are we talking about him. 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 4: He died. 35 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: However he died is tragic and it is not his 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: fault because he was drinking, right, and like all of 37 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: them doing. 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: The same thing. It just irks me that we always 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: are having to. 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Talk about what we did wrong that would have earned 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: our death, and that is frustrating to me as a black. 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Should we listen to this audio really quick? Let's play that? 43 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 5: Okay, So before I play this, I want to quickly 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 5: explain what I did, what you're looking at on the screen, 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 5: and why I chose to approach this audio the way 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 5: that I did as a professional audio engineer with experience 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: and dialogue editing, dialogue cleanup, sound design, and post production. 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: I decided to work on that see toe call using 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 5: traditional audio processing techniques rather than relying on any AI 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: voice separation or AI enhancement. My goal was pretty much 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 5: to preserve as much of the original recording as possible 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: while making the quieter dialogue and background audio easier to hear. 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 5: And I specifically chose not to rely on AI because 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: aggressive AI enhancements and voice isolation tools can sometimes introduce 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 5: artifacts and distort the speech or create ambiguity around the 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: sounds that were originally present, and for some in this series, 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 5: I wanted my processing to remain as conservative as possible. 58 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 5: For this first video, I'm sharing only approximately thirty seven 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 5: seconds of the call. I originally intended to continue much further, 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 5: but once I separated the dispatcher from the boat and 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 5: started concentrating exclusively on the background dialogue, what I believed 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 5: I was hearing became extremely difficult for me to process emotionally, 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 5: and I needed to take a mental break. And so 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 5: I'm gonna let the audio play read my transcription if 65 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 5: you want a reference, but don't allow it to determine 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 5: what you hear. I want you to listen first, listen again, 67 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 5: compare it with the original recording, and then judge it 68 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 5: with your own ears. 69 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: Okay, oh my god, Hey, we're with the West Tip 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: of Porn and our village stopped working. We're going, we're. 71 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: Thinking, can you all please? 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Can we have them? 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: Ever? Should? 74 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: Oh? 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: Look the fuck up? I believe that's it. So that 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 3: was the audio. 77 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how she could hear it. Like 78 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: for me, all I heard them say was, oh my god, 79 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: that's the clearest thing I heard before he started yelling 80 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: shut the f up at people. But the rest of 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: that I can't make anything out. I know she had 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: a transcript that she put on the side. I love 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: to hear with you. 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: I think I could just be hard of hearing, but 85 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: I can't. I can't understand. 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 6: I will tell you I wish that she hadn't put 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 6: the transcript to it, to be honest, because I you know, 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 6: we played that same audio. We downloaded it from w 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 6: l o X, which was the local Mississippi station that 90 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 6: got the audio first, and so a lot of us 91 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 6: downloaded that audio. We had our audio guy go through 92 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 6: it without AI and just clean it up. As an 93 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 6: audio expert, we did the same thing, and we played 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 6: it for Frank Fink Glusey, who's a former FBI assistant director, 95 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 6: and for a Reva Martin, and for Dina dol two attorneys, 96 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 6: and we played it for them without a transcript and 97 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 6: without telling them what they were going to hear, because 98 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 6: I think when you see the words under you hear 99 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 6: the words because your brain tells you that what you're 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 6: reading is what you're hearing. And when I first heard 101 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 6: this audio and this cleaned up audio that this sister did, 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 6: and God bless her for trying to help with this case, 103 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 6: I was reading the audio and so I now cannot 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 6: unhear the words that she's saying. I hear every single thing. 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 6: He's dead. They killed him, barred, Shut the f up? 106 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 6: Is he really dead? I hear all of it, but 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 6: I'm now not sure I trust my own mind because 108 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 6: I feel like the transcript and me knowing what I 109 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 6: was going to hear influence me. We played this for 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 6: our staff. No one on my staff heard what I heard. 111 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 6: I'm the only one who seems to have heard it. 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 6: So I think this is playing with our emotions and 113 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 6: our brain At this point, we need a Frank Faglusey 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 6: did say this, the FBI if we had a real 115 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 6: FBI cash Fortell ass need to get this audio. And 116 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 6: they have much more powerful equipment than that sister, who's 117 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 6: a Hollywood editor has. We need to have a real 118 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 6: cleanup of this audio. And I'm gonna say one last thing, 119 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 6: and this is maybe some aterism Black folks, since we 120 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 6: home we own, can we stop acting like Nancy Grace's 121 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 6: presence suddenly solves the crime that lady is not the FBI. 122 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: Child the way that people say Nancy Grays crazy ass 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: on the case, now we're gonna solve it. 124 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 6: I'm over come on, let's stop with that. 125 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: But anyway, didn't she play didn't she play audio that 126 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: also hasn't been authenticated on her? 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 6: She then yes, She then took that same cleaned up audio. 128 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 6: She further cleaned it up to make it almost crystal 129 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 6: clear that you're hearing those words. But I'm like, who 130 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 6: did that? What is the authentication of that? And are 131 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 6: you gaslighting us with giving us what we want to 132 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 6: believe in here? Because people don't trust them white boys. 133 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: So I'm like, don't do that, because number one, You're 134 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 6: setting a lot of content creators up to say things 135 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 6: into camera that may not be true. We do not 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 6: know what happened to this child. We all want to 137 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 6: know that mama deserves answers, but this is not giving 138 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 6: her answers or comfort. What this is doing is sending 139 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: all of us down a path that may turn out 140 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 6: not to be true. So I do not trust their 141 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 6: story either. There are millions of holes in these stories. 142 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: I think giving that interview to uh, the black cap, 143 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 6: black copper copper, we have whatever his name is, I 144 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 6: keep saying his name is Officer Remis, and. 145 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: I don't know why I can't. 146 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 6: I want to call him, my mind tells me because 147 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 6: I got menopause, I've be calling him uncle Remus or Ruckus. 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: Or nearest who knows, who knows at this point or Thomas. 149 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Native Lampard is the production of iHeart Radio and partnership 150 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: with Reizent Choice Media. 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