Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is
Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt we were just talking off
Speaker 1: the air, have a nice little conversation here about some
Speaker 1: of the stuff that is going on here in this
Speaker 1: with with some of these draft prospects.
Speaker 2: Someone just follow us around with like a recorder.
Speaker 1: Just like what we what we need is a couple
Speaker 1: of interns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll pay them. Well, they could just find
Speaker 2: beers follow.
Speaker 1: Us around and record what we say, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2: Take pictures of our text back and forth, and we
Speaker 2: wouldn't and then edit it, yeah, edit it nicely.
Speaker 1: And the whole reason it came up is because of
Speaker 1: course we're doing our rankings on the different positions for
Speaker 1: Steelers dot Com. Our first one dropped today on the
Speaker 1: quarter First of all, we each had three different quarterbacks
Speaker 1: number one between you, me and so the three of
Speaker 1: us I had, I had Daniels, You had Williams and
Speaker 1: pursuit ahead.
Speaker 2: May I bet it's not McCarthy, No, not McCarthy.
Speaker 1: He have McCarthy in the top five.
Speaker 2: That's just taking a little personal but I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But some of the guys, like we were talking
Speaker 1: about the Penn State tackle who chose not to well,
Speaker 1: he didn't choose to work. He didn't. He chose not
Speaker 1: to go to the Senior Bowl, right, and then was okay,
Speaker 1: and then got hurt at the combine. Yea, And so
Speaker 1: now you don't you don't have anything to go off
Speaker 1: of from the Senior Bowl. The only time he saw
Speaker 1: him at the Combine he was getting hurt. Right now,
Speaker 1: it does.
Speaker 2: His worst game was against Ohio State. Had a bad game.
Speaker 1: Against the best of the best competitions.
Speaker 2: It was. They'd love to see him shining.
Speaker 1: The defensive end from Ohio State. He's going to get drafted,
Speaker 1: maybe a third round, fourth guy, but he ate.
Speaker 2: His lunch power gave him problems. It's an NFL player. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I bet this. I don't know the answer. I
Speaker 2: assume he didn't play in his bowl game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know the answer.
Speaker 2: View made it, but I wouldn't if I were him.
Speaker 2: It wasn't for the national title or playoffs or anything.
Speaker 2: So why would you, I mean, no one does anymore.
Speaker 2: So like in this unbelievably awesome tackle class, everybody else's
Speaker 2: rising just being themselves in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I brought that up because I started doing
Speaker 1: my tackle rankings, and I'm like one through five and
Speaker 1: all five of them could go before the Steelers pick, right,
Speaker 1: But there's not a whole bag. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of separating those guys. So when you start looking at
Speaker 1: it in your team, and I've got I've got Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl tape on player A, I've got Combine tape on
Speaker 1: player A. Then I get his workout, I got it.
Speaker 1: I got to talk to it.
Speaker 2: Do we know that he won't be able to do
Speaker 2: penn s prote I don't know that. I don't even
Speaker 2: I don't know this, haven't heard of it.
Speaker 1: But you just have more information on this guy. I
Speaker 1: don't have as much information on that guy.
Speaker 2: And you're very happy with the other dude. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I think he came in as the favorite number one,
Speaker 2: and frankly, he should have came out a year ago.
Speaker 2: I mean he I think he goes ahead of Roderick
Speaker 2: Jones right to Johnson.
Speaker 1: Then he started to say push past him. Ye, and
Speaker 1: then and you start to see Latham maybe push past him.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have Latham ahead of him.
Speaker 1: I am too.
Speaker 2: I'll probably have him third, but there's a case he
Speaker 2: could be six or seventh.
Speaker 1: I put him fifth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gutsy.
Speaker 1: It's mean, I don't know. He may not go fifth, right,
Speaker 1: But I just know more about these other guys.
Speaker 2: And of course the NFL than all of us put together,
Speaker 2: of course, but still they're all human beings and there
Speaker 2: is a what have you done for me lately? Situation?
Speaker 2: And you're watching these guys just shine so much at
Speaker 2: Combines and Senior Bowls. I mean, I don't think Giten's
Speaker 2: going to go ahead of him, but he did really,
Speaker 2: really well at both events. You know, Like how many
Speaker 2: guys can say that the last time that we saw
Speaker 2: you move in person, you look really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just so crowded, and you know,
Speaker 1: to me, we you know, on Monday we talked about
Speaker 1: Fatanu from Washington, like, you know, we didn't he is
Speaker 1: he a guard? Is he a tackle? Well, that looks
Speaker 1: like he's tackle. He's a tackle.
Speaker 2: Right, There's another one in the equation that is potentially
Speaker 2: better than him. I mean, I think he probably had
Speaker 2: the better year of the two on tape, you know,
Speaker 2: than for Shano. You know, so you mentioned off year two.
Speaker 2: You know, we are doing our top five lists. I
Speaker 2: have not got tackles yet, I've only done running backs
Speaker 2: and quarterbacks, and you're gonna leave crazy. Maybe the Steelers
Speaker 2: first round pick off there, or you know, three first
Speaker 2: round picks off there. Potentially it's bonkers.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's there's probably going to be at least eight
Speaker 1: in the first round.
Speaker 2: I think so we all did. We did first. It
Speaker 2: did mocks recently that we're not going to use for
Speaker 2: a little while. But I ended up putting the Byu
Speaker 2: kid to the Niners at thirty one because I thought
Speaker 2: O line was their biggest need. He's a good developmental
Speaker 2: player for them, and all their tackles were gone in
Speaker 2: the top play twenty five or so in my mock.
Speaker 1: That being said, I did my interior offensive line ranking today.
Speaker 2: I love it. That's not well, there's actually some three
Speaker 2: centers eat five spots.
Speaker 1: You get the three centers you got bb from uh
Speaker 1: BB's from k State. Yeah, might be might slide into
Speaker 1: the end of the first round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's early day two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very worse. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then you know the Haines kid from Haynes from
Speaker 1: Connecticut was my fifth guy. Like, those guys are all
Speaker 1: going to be gone and maybe the top fifty picks. Fifty, yeah,
Speaker 1: fifty five, sixty.
Speaker 2: He'll be there for the Steel second round pick. Maybe
Speaker 2: they might not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they definitely won't be there for round three.
Speaker 2: Right, And I think your interior lineman, I assume you
Speaker 2: didn't cheat and put Fatanu with the interior guy.
Speaker 1: I did not. Last year, I did with I counted
Speaker 1: him as a tackle. I think he's a tackle. He's
Speaker 1: got a toger arms and some of the then some
Speaker 1: of the other guys we were looking at his tackles.
Speaker 2: What's funny is for Waga from Moregan short arm, it's
Speaker 2: kind of the opposite. He's sixty six, but his arms
Speaker 2: are a little short. Where if Atan who's six four
Speaker 2: and his arms are long?
Speaker 1: Which one would you So, since you brought it up,
Speaker 1: what would you rather have?
Speaker 2: As as both their tapes great, you're not saying which
Speaker 2: player would you rather have?
Speaker 1: Well, in terms of the of the traits, the guy's
Speaker 1: six four, but he's got long arms. The other guy's
Speaker 1: six six, but he's got shorter arms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who as they are ridiculously they're both really good prospects.
Speaker 2: And I mean I'm not even saying which one you'd want,
Speaker 2: just which of those two packages would you rather have.
Speaker 2: I think I'll take the short with the long arms
Speaker 2: because then he could zack Martin it. If it doesn't
Speaker 2: work out, then probably be a great guard. Not that
Speaker 2: you know, I got be a bad guard, but he
Speaker 2: could be too high for the Aaron Donalds of the
Speaker 2: world and things like that. So yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: would rather have the long arms. Does Fogga birt bother
Speaker 2: you at all? And again, I mean this is splitting hair.
Speaker 2: I mean these are verse Geiten and mems and for
Speaker 2: Sean every name we've mentioned. I would love his tape.
Speaker 2: I thought he was great at the SNEA Bowl and nasty.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's very plug and play as
Speaker 2: your right tackle from day one on. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it'll make my top five or not, though, I
Speaker 2: mean five is hard to Naron Divas, that guy would
Speaker 2: make it every year.
Speaker 1: And that's where we're like, so you have a like
Speaker 1: the Penn State kid could go from being number one.
Speaker 2: He would have been number one a couple months ago.
Speaker 1: From maybe he's number five, And the difference in that
Speaker 1: is the difference between going fifth, sixth, seventh, somewhere in there,
Speaker 1: and maybe nineteenth or twentieth. Yeah, that's a significant amount
Speaker 1: of money.
Speaker 2: A significan amount of money. Like, do I think there's
Speaker 2: any chance for Sewn who's there for the Steelers? I
Speaker 2: really don't know. I don't I don't know. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure he'll do some kind of workout or deep down
Speaker 2: to people in the NFL and know what that guy is.
Speaker 2: And some of us are probably just too excited about
Speaker 2: the others because we've seen him lately. But I don't
Speaker 2: think he's gonna go top five. I think like the
Speaker 2: Jets of ten is where he's gonna end up. Where
Speaker 2: he could have went like second overall last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, while we're on the subject of those tackles, this
Speaker 1: alt's height six nine.
Speaker 2: When's too tall?
Speaker 1: When is too tall for a tackle?
Speaker 2: His shuttle was so good that made me not worry
Speaker 2: about But this was but.
Speaker 1: The ben you know, the the you know, the small
Speaker 1: We saw it for years with with with James Harrison
Speaker 1: getting up under those those tall guys.
Speaker 2: Sure. I mean you always ogged in had a hard
Speaker 2: time with Harrison and Freeeny, and I mean Ogden's an
Speaker 2: all time great. I mean if alterns the dog and
Speaker 2: you're thrilled.
Speaker 1: I mean now, Villanueva struggled with some of the shorter guys.
Speaker 1: Then Carl Lawson from the from the Bengals with the
Speaker 1: Bengals gave him fits because he was under six foot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think the fact that why I
Speaker 2: brought a short shuttle is because he got low. He bends,
Speaker 2: he changes directions. You know. I didn't think his shuttle
Speaker 2: time would be close to as good as it is.
Speaker 2: And all his other drills were phenomenal too. But it
Speaker 2: doesn't worry me now. But what people need to think
Speaker 2: about the ages as he ages and he's a little
Speaker 2: less flexible and he's had an ankle that's been bugging them, and.
Speaker 1: His back starts to bother.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah maybe. But by then, though, these guys learn
Speaker 2: more tricks of the trade and know how to hold
Speaker 2: better and stuff like that too. But I mean, we've
Speaker 2: never seen like a six ' ten tackle. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that'd be a real problem, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: when when's too tall to.
Speaker 1: I remember when the Steelers had Chris Ferris and well
Speaker 1: he's six y nine. Yeah, he's six ' nine.
Speaker 2: He couldn't bend, couldn't bend, and people get under him.
Speaker 2: And if you can't stop power, you're not gonna last
Speaker 2: in this league. Yeah. And if you can't rush with power,
Speaker 2: you can't last in this league. Tall guys are going
Speaker 2: to struggle with power.
Speaker 1: By the same token we've seen Marvin Harrison not he
Speaker 1: he's only gonna do medicals for the teams that he visits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he didn't do medicals in Indy.
Speaker 1: He skipped out. He skipped out on his media stuff
Speaker 1: in Indy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like those two things I would have advised him
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what does it hurt you to do the media availability?
Speaker 1: It's fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes, go up there, state your case.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know, the medicals a long day,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of what you do. That's what you're there,
Speaker 1: that's what you're there for. Especially we're not going to
Speaker 1: work out. You go home after that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't quite get that. And it's and it's not like
Speaker 1: there aren't other wide receivers who are getting top tank consideration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so again, you open the door for those guys to
Speaker 1: maybe pass you maybe.
Speaker 2: I mean in such a tight market. I mean, again,
Speaker 2: he's not fighting Jordan Addison to be the first receiver
Speaker 2: off the board. He's fighting neighbors and you know guys
Speaker 2: that are usually the first receiver off the board in
Speaker 2: any class. And you may even mentioned Caleb Williams. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know either one of those guys personally, but
Speaker 2: they're obviously professionals at this point. You know, they they
Speaker 2: have money, they and this is to be something that
Speaker 2: it's ever changing draft landscape. They have a lot of
Speaker 2: people in their ear, which isn't new, but they have
Speaker 2: their own brands, you know. They they come in the league.
Speaker 2: In one way, it's good. It's like I've seen how
Speaker 2: this guy handles money to some degree, but they think
Speaker 2: they have more power than they do in my opinion,
Speaker 2: you know, like the league as a whole is not
Speaker 2: going to just cater to all these guys, is just saying, oh, sure,
Speaker 2: that's what you want, Sonny boy, that's great.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not what this league has been about.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's more of an NBA type thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about the league, but it sounds
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so. And I've also heard that there
Speaker 1: was a push from the NFLPA to that they don't
Speaker 1: want reporters in the locker room period.
Speaker 2: Any period, anyone period. What do you feel about that? Like,
Speaker 2: I've always thought that's a little odd. To be very
Speaker 2: honest with you, I've never been that guy thing. It's like,
Speaker 2: let them get dressed.
Speaker 1: So that was that was a situation during COVID, Right,
Speaker 1: you didn't have any reporters in the locker room. So
Speaker 1: what what ends up happening is you hear from the
Speaker 1: same six players on everything.
Speaker 2: That's terrible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you also, for example, you know some of the
Speaker 1: feature type stuff that that I do for Steelers dot Com,
Speaker 1: Well you never get those stories because I can't go
Speaker 1: into the locker room and talk to the force you
Speaker 1: know there the third string tight end or I can't
Speaker 1: go in there and talk like those guys, and you
Speaker 1: never hear for on game for example, on game is
Speaker 1: one of my biggest problems with with COVID. We always
Speaker 1: got the stars of the game, for example, Okay, this
Speaker 1: guy kick off, Yeah, this guy in an interception, this
Speaker 1: guy scored a touchdown. Never get to talk to the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman after a game. Those guys always know what
Speaker 1: went wrong or what went right.
Speaker 2: Some of the smartest guys on the smartest guys.
Speaker 1: And you never got to talk to him during the
Speaker 1: COVID period because they weren't made available.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I felt for you during COVID because
Speaker 2: the really good people to do what you do got
Speaker 2: leveled with everybody else on a zoom call. It's like
Speaker 2: we all have the same information. Yeah, that's yeah, we
Speaker 2: all the same answers to the tests. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: that's not as much skill involved then in my opinion.
Speaker 2: But I always did kind of think it's weird that
Speaker 2: a bunch of people come into locker room all the're
Speaker 2: getting changed. I mean, couldn't there Well.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a cooling down period after I thought,
Speaker 1: you don't go in there immediately after the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they get ten minutes to kind of chill out and
Speaker 1: then they know it's coming. Yeah, you know, it's part
Speaker 1: of the process. It's part of your job. That's why
Speaker 1: you make the money that you do to you know,
Speaker 1: the answer questions about about this, you know these kind
Speaker 1: of things, and it's it's great pr for the league.
Speaker 2: Like that's the key is without the media of the
Speaker 2: leagues on making the money that it is and the
Speaker 2: people listening don't get the information they want.
Speaker 1: Like everybody wants more and more information. Are there going
Speaker 1: to be some negative stories that commanded?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Probably right, But there's no such thing as bad press. No,
Speaker 2: I hear the other thing I've been hearing more than
Speaker 2: about two. Do you think there'll be less people doing
Speaker 2: combine drills? Like I could see a day a generation
Speaker 2: from now that people will laugh at us holding a
Speaker 2: watch or for a forty R dash when all the
Speaker 2: malper stuff is there for the football field, you know, like,
Speaker 2: well we have technology that we don't have to do
Speaker 2: these drills.
Speaker 1: Well there's but I think someday not necessarily. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the drill works still matter, but maybe you
Speaker 1: don't do the measurements on the times and and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. You know that that could become passity.
Speaker 1: But that the you know, the the mirror drills for
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman and some of those kind of things.
Speaker 2: I thought those were the most value of anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like of any drill there. I wanted to
Speaker 2: see the W drills for the h D backs and
Speaker 2: I wanted to see the mirror stuff for the old lineman,
Speaker 2: one after another after another. Yeah, you can tell who's
Speaker 2: better than the others, right, you.
Speaker 1: Can see who's he's way more smooth than that last.
Speaker 1: So those I don't think go away. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: still think that there's great value. Especially here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The people who are opting out of this stuff now
Speaker 1: are again the guys who think that they're going to.
Speaker 2: Go the elite of the elite very highly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or unless you're somebody I'm dealing with a little
Speaker 1: something here, I'm not going to that's a different world, right,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't behoove you. Let's say you're a you
Speaker 1: got a third round type guy, it doesn't behoove you.
Speaker 1: Just I'm not going to work out.
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose every you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna Yeah, you're gonna lose every typereak. You're gonna cost
Speaker 1: yourself money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna take the guy. Know more about
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm taking the bird in the hand all
Speaker 2: day long. Yeah, No, I'm with you. But I do
Speaker 2: think it's interesting that Harrison and Williams in particular are
Speaker 2: such big brand names. Everyone's been telling them I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be the first pick in the draft forever, the foregone conclusion.
Speaker 2: I think they think they have more power than they do, though,
Speaker 2: and when it's all said and done, well's.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like JJ McCarthy goes to the
Speaker 1: combine and throws and people, I can't believe he's throwing
Speaker 1: here at the combine. I think he helped himself though,
Speaker 1: because you got to see him throw, yeah, against you
Speaker 1: got to see him thro against Panics. You got to
Speaker 1: see him throw versus Nicks and all the other guys
Speaker 1: who were potentially trying to be that that fourth quarterback
Speaker 1: on the list.
Speaker 2: You're a good thrower. People don't care if it's incomplete
Speaker 2: because you're right, you and your receiver don't have a
Speaker 2: connection or what I mean. I understand throwing at the
Speaker 2: Pro Day, but that's like the Pro Day. That's everybody
Speaker 2: that's kindergarten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're throwing the guys that you you hand picked,
Speaker 1: hand picked, and you're throwing the routes that you hand.
Speaker 2: Picked exactly fifty throws or whatever. Yeah, wow, all fifty
Speaker 2: its rows? Right.
Speaker 1: I can remember watching too is Pro Day because he
Speaker 1: hadn't thrown.
Speaker 2: Was it like the rugs and bottle of this guy.
Speaker 1: But it was all like, oh, here's a little six
Speaker 1: yard out and here's you know, here's the I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw this bubble screen like that doesn't tell me.
Speaker 2: Anything great, Yeah, right right now. I think quarterback pro days,
Speaker 2: that's like watching a layup drow Yeah, and like you
Speaker 2: should better the forty fifty in those Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: and of course you'll try a couple of tough throws
Speaker 2: at the end. But it's still on about.
Speaker 1: The Zach Wilson pro he made this jump throw across, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when is he gonna do that? And again, when's that happened?
Speaker 2: That's like playing watching guys play horse or something to
Speaker 2: figure out who you want the NBA. Come on, Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: it's interesting though. Uh, the top of the drafts pretty
Speaker 2: interesting and strong, and I mentioned but just moving.
Speaker 1: A couple of slots mean a lot can mean you
Speaker 1: go a lot money. If you were the if you
Speaker 1: were gonna be the fourth pick and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you slide to seven, you just cost yourself about
Speaker 1: three million dollars.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean just because you didn't think
Speaker 2: you had to work out or weren't ready or willing
Speaker 2: to compete against really strong competition.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, this is still your
Speaker 1: interviewing for a job. Yeah, And teams are beams are
Speaker 1: spending a lot of money on these picks. You're gonna
Speaker 1: take the safer pick, You're gonna take the guy that
Speaker 1: you know more about.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure we'll go over a mock in the
Speaker 2: next couple days or whatever. Today, I'm sure I had
Speaker 2: a hunch. And this is a little off topic, but
Speaker 2: the more I study this draft too, right around like
Speaker 2: where the Bills pick, Like those final four teams and
Speaker 2: the Bills they're the final five picks in the draft.
Speaker 2: I think that's about where the first rounders end. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, like because almost all the picks I've had
Speaker 2: done there, I'm like, that's a legit first rounder, good fit.
Speaker 2: And then I got the Bills. I'm like, I think
Speaker 2: I'm out of first rounders, you know, but usually that
Speaker 2: happens at like pick twenty. I mean, like the Steelers
Speaker 2: at twenty are gonna get a really good player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a matter of you know, who's it
Speaker 1: going to be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which one do you want? What flavor do you want?
Speaker 1: You know, Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is
Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to
Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, and Matt du
Speaker 1: speaking of all.
Speaker 2: This stuff Field Yates, Are you put one out come.
Speaker 1: Coming out of his coming out of the combine, he
Speaker 1: now has his new top fifty.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, Let's go ahead and take a come back.
Speaker 1: So he is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lolli. You're
Speaker 1: listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Will be
Speaker 1: back with more right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie.
Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. And as I promised, we're going
Speaker 1: to take a look here at Field Yates top fifty
Speaker 1: prospects coming out of the NFL scouting combine. Field does
Speaker 1: his stuff for ESPN.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's really ramping up his draft stuff too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he still has Caleb Williams number one. Okay,
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels now number two. I think we should we
Speaker 1: tell people what our ranks were. He was my second.
Speaker 1: I've moved him ahead of May. Yeah, he's I had
Speaker 1: a number one.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to know if you wanted to let
Speaker 2: the world know. But yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: But my reasoning for putting Daniels ahead of Williams is
Speaker 1: simply I think he is a Lamar Jackson type runner,
Speaker 1: but can also throw the football really well. I mean
Speaker 1: he can spin it.
Speaker 2: Especially the interviews that we people sat down with us
Speaker 2: A combine and Greg Cosell stands out, but he wasn't alone. Boy,
Speaker 2: he's gonna go high. I mean, like, I mean, people
Speaker 2: were really really excited about him. Anticipatory thrower. He definitely
Speaker 2: had the best year of any quarterback, won the Heisman.
Speaker 1: And their offense called for him to do more reads.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, it was diverse. And he's six year guy.
Speaker 2: I look at that as as a positive though. Sure,
Speaker 2: and right now, I get it. I get it. I
Speaker 2: was hesitant to put him over May, but I pulled
Speaker 2: a trick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's six ' four. Yeah, you know he's
Speaker 1: not you know, he sees he can put some body
Speaker 1: armor on. But we've seen Lamar do that since he
Speaker 1: came in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you gotta hit it.
Speaker 1: He's got the frame to do it. He can he
Speaker 1: can add to it and still keep that explosiveness as
Speaker 1: a runner.
Speaker 2: I would think so, and I just think.
Speaker 1: He'll in the long term. I think he's the better
Speaker 1: prospect for me.
Speaker 2: Right now, now, I can see it. Yeah, I could
Speaker 2: definitely see it.
Speaker 1: He has Marvin Harrison three. All right, Malik neighbors for
Speaker 1: they're close, they're closer than that. I think Marvin Harrison
Speaker 1: would like to maybe admit.
Speaker 2: No, exactly exactly. That's my point too. I think Harrison's
Speaker 2: a good receiver prospect. Ever, seeing he's got a dude
Speaker 2: nipping on his heels, he better be careful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drake May five, Sure, May I get it? Room
Speaker 1: is six?
Speaker 2: Okay again, those three quarterbacks receivers, Yeah, those guys are close.
Speaker 1: Then he has Joe Alt seven.
Speaker 2: I suppose he's going to be my number one tackle still. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but one through five are very different, very close.
Speaker 1: At eight, he has brock Bowers.
Speaker 2: I see that too, finding it, finding his landing, finding
Speaker 2: his fit stuff. Yeah, but there's also ten landing spots.
Speaker 2: You'd be like, I get.
Speaker 1: It because to me, you don't look at him as
Speaker 1: a tight end. No, No, look at him like he
Speaker 1: is a wide receiver who happens to be sixty three
Speaker 1: and two hundred and.
Speaker 2: Forty pounds and there's a matchup nightmare all over the
Speaker 2: field and ate after the catch.
Speaker 1: I mean he had one hundred and seventy five catches
Speaker 1: in over twenty five hundred yards and twenty eight touchdowns
Speaker 1: in three seasons at Georgia and oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: Georgia had other dudes there while he was.
Speaker 2: Like the guy for the Steelers right now, and he
Speaker 2: also missed some time with injury. I've heard some college
Speaker 2: football historians say he's the best college tight end ever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he was their number one receivts.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I totally understand it
Speaker 2: competitive hard to bring down. He's not a fitask player.
Speaker 2: I totally understand he has LA two at nine. I
Speaker 2: have a hard time putting him ahead of these upcoming tackles.
Speaker 2: But I'm not even sure if he'd be my number
Speaker 2: one defensive player. I think Dallas Turner would be.
Speaker 1: I mean, twenty three and a half sacks for the
Speaker 1: last two years. I mean he has the productions there.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a handful. He's a very refined pass rusher too.
Speaker 2: I mean, some of these guys are just athletes learning
Speaker 2: how to be pass rushers. He's pretty well developed. Like
Speaker 2: he's a plug and play pass rusher. Yeah. I think
Speaker 2: plays a run he to.
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a four to three end
Speaker 1: two than he would be for a fit for A
Speaker 1: three four, but I could see some three could you
Speaker 1: could still use him in a yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's six ' five, he's powerful. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: He has Terry and Arnold at ten.
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean these guys are really good players. I
Speaker 2: just prefer some of the other offensive guys.
Speaker 1: Still, yeah, the tackles and eleven is Byron Murphy.
Speaker 2: Understandable. I mean it's hard to find negatives on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Twelve is Dallas Turner.
Speaker 2: Okay, really flexible, but he's not as physical as a
Speaker 2: lot too.
Speaker 1: At thirteen Quinya Mitchell.
Speaker 2: Okay. I think Mitchell and Arnold are fighting for that number.
Speaker 1: They're really close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean depending what you want. If you're a
Speaker 2: cover three Seattle type team, I want Mitchell, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean Arnold to play more slot, you know. I mean
Speaker 2: they're they're both pretty good.
Speaker 1: Fourteen is J C.
Speaker 2: Latham, okay.
Speaker 1: Fifteen Troy Fatanu.
Speaker 2: And now we're splitting hairs really yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: notice he has not mentioned for Shanhu that yet he
Speaker 2: is not. But he's at sixteen okay, so he kind
Speaker 2: of cheated. Was actually that's and was that your five?
Speaker 2: Those are my five? I did mine yesterday before this
Speaker 2: came out, so he's kind of in the same. But again,
Speaker 2: you're you know, those guys are all close, really close.
Speaker 1: But because I saw the other guys do some stuff,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 2: It's a human nature thing. I mean, it's just your
Speaker 2: stock has. I mean, how can you say for Shawan
Speaker 2: who Stock went out when everyone around him has.
Speaker 1: Really I think Fatanus Stock went up me too, because
Speaker 1: he's I now know he could he can probably play
Speaker 1: tackle in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I was uncertain of that for sure going into the
Speaker 2: carbine and without question.
Speaker 1: At seventeen is Talasi Fuaga.
Speaker 2: Just run back the first segment. I mean he's had
Speaker 2: this exact conversation.
Speaker 1: Eighteen Brian Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might even have Thomas ahead of any of
Speaker 2: the defensive players.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much to work with.
Speaker 1: Six three two ten pounds into four to three three.
Speaker 2: He's just a touchdown machine.
Speaker 1: Nineteen a Donnie Mitchell. That's as high as I've seen him.
Speaker 2: It's a little too rich for my life. Yeah, me
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: At twenty is Jared Verse.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think he's much different than the other
Speaker 2: two edge guys though.
Speaker 1: Yeah. At Twenty one is Chop Robinson.
Speaker 2: He would definitely be fourth for me, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: see the allure.
Speaker 1: Twenty two Jackson Powers Johnson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to say how good you are
Speaker 2: for your position? He could be five on the list
Speaker 2: and just how much do you value it?
Speaker 1: Twenty three is Cooper dejen So that's his cornerback. Three three, okay,
Speaker 1: Twenty four is Tyler Geiton.
Speaker 2: That's a seventh tackle prospect and he's a really good one, right.
Speaker 1: Twenty five is Nate Wiggins.
Speaker 2: Another Those corners are pretty good, well clustered in there too,
Speaker 2: depending what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: And these are all these are all guys are all
Speaker 1: first round guys.
Speaker 2: I just say we have not run out of first round. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, happy to be first round pick type guys.
Speaker 1: Twenty six or Marius Mims.
Speaker 2: There's another one, another one, right, what's that seven or
Speaker 2: eight tackle on it? I think that's eight, Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven Kamari Lassiter. I don't know that he goes
Speaker 1: in the first round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we may have just run out of Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we're twenty six, although I'm not sure Mitchell belongs.
Speaker 1: No, Mitchell's probably too high there might be.
Speaker 2: So we have like twenty five that you and I
Speaker 2: would say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well in twenty h JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Let's call it twenty six. Then yeah, yeah, because he's going.
Speaker 1: He's going on the I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: have a first round great on him.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would either.
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a second early second round guy.
Speaker 1: But because he's a quarterback, he's.
Speaker 2: Probably there's no chance he's there at twenty. So yeah,
Speaker 2: he's going good.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine is Lad McConkie.
Speaker 2: Now we're in a really good second round player type.
Speaker 1: Yeah you could talk. I mean I may I try
Speaker 1: sneaking him into the end of the first round of
Speaker 1: every mock drofe that I do, because I just think
Speaker 1: he's a great player.
Speaker 2: I did too. I did sneak both Texas receivers in
Speaker 2: in the final five picks, the Buffalo and Kansas City
Speaker 2: over Mconkee. But that's a little bit of recency biased
Speaker 2: from the combine.
Speaker 1: I just you don't want to me. You don't want
Speaker 1: Kansas City getting Lad McConkey.
Speaker 2: To catch one hundred and fifty ball.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, yeah, uh thirty, and this guy
Speaker 1: could go higher than This is Darius Robinson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could different, he's a different style. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's the only vanilla ice cream in the group, or
Speaker 2: strawberry or whatever. I mean, there's not many of those
Speaker 2: that are first round considerations. One name he hasn't brought up, though,
Speaker 2: that I didn't put in my first round is another
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. Is Newton. Now. I watched some more Newton
Speaker 2: stuff and he seems like another one that's been out
Speaker 2: of sight, out of mind lately. He's a heck of
Speaker 2: prospect though too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Thirty one Xavier Legette, Oh that's a little rich
Speaker 1: for me. Thirty two Edgar and Cooper Strong.
Speaker 2: I think that's about reblongs.
Speaker 1: Thirty three enis Rekestraw.
Speaker 2: Okay, little on the skinny side, yeah.
Speaker 1: Thirty four Jordan Morgan. There's your ninth tackle in the
Speaker 1: top thirty four.
Speaker 2: We haven't talked much about him, but he helped himself too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I think he's a tackle now. He was
Speaker 2: a little better length, bet more agile than some people
Speaker 2: would thought. I think he could be in the first round.
Speaker 1: Thirty five is jerse On Newton.
Speaker 2: Johnny Newton, Johnny Now Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Graham Barton, I.
Speaker 2: Look at him as a surefire first now, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I thought he was. I put him to Dallas
Speaker 2: just because they have like three offensive line spots that
Speaker 2: he might well or yeah, it could be Zach Barton's
Speaker 2: replacement some day or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty seven is Zach Frazier.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he's a two, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: a good one, hi to Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight Keon Coleman.
Speaker 2: I think he got a little bit of a bum
Speaker 2: wrap for just an ok forty. I mean we knew
Speaker 2: he wasn't a burner big. I mean his gauntlet drill
Speaker 2: was like perfect, and he also had the best speed
Speaker 2: of anybody the gauntlet drill.
Speaker 1: He's like he's a basketball player. He plays like a
Speaker 1: basketball player, he does.
Speaker 2: I stuck him to the Ravens thinking Odell's not going
Speaker 2: to come back and Bateman's fribably done after this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, he hasn't really shined, big physical receiver. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of places could use him. Oh yeah, Buffalo,
Speaker 2: Kansas City, you know.
Speaker 1: Thirty nine Braden fisk Ooh, I've done a little.
Speaker 2: More detackle homework. I mentioned Newton Fisk gets swallowed up
Speaker 2: in the run game. I mean his short arms hurt him. There.
Speaker 2: He's active as could be. He's so athletic, and I
Speaker 2: understand all the buzz around him. But a double team
Speaker 2: he gets squashed like a hand. Yeah. I mean he
Speaker 2: worries me more now after watching some more on him.
Speaker 1: Forty is Michael Pennix.
Speaker 2: I get it, not for everyone. He hasn't had a
Speaker 2: Knicks Apparently we not mentioned Knicks.
Speaker 1: Forty one is Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I don't think he's just speed. I
Speaker 2: mean I think he's going to be a decent player,
Speaker 2: but he's probably a Devrey Henderson taking in, you know,
Speaker 2: and that has some value.
Speaker 1: Forty two kool Aid McKinstry.
Speaker 2: Okay, I hope we get a workout time on him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that would really hurt him.
Speaker 1: Forty three is bow Nicks.
Speaker 2: Okay, would you Pinis have been Knicks? I had Knix
Speaker 2: ahead of my hen.
Speaker 1: I had Nicks ahead of Penix, but it was I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: splitting hairs there too.
Speaker 2: Nix was my five and Pinis didn't make the list,
Speaker 2: but he would have been sick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Forty four Junior.
Speaker 2: Colson, Okay, that's about right. Yeah, maybe second round consideration
Speaker 2: for the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Forty five Jaylen Polk.
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't think that's wrong. It just he You
Speaker 2: haven't heard a.
Speaker 1: Lot about him lately, No, because he had the receivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, forty six.
Speaker 1: Max Melton.
Speaker 2: Ah, I took him in the second round and we
Speaker 2: were getting today.
Speaker 1: We were getting him in like six rounds of our
Speaker 1: Now I think he's the second we started here. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he might be the.
Speaker 2: Guy right after like kool Aid and Rakestraw. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he takes He's a hard guy to find
Speaker 2: negatives on.
Speaker 1: It takes the ball away. He's got speed, he's got
Speaker 1: decent size, play inside, he can play outside exactly.
Speaker 2: His testing numbers are Elite.
Speaker 1: Forty seven. Trey Benson, the first running back.
Speaker 2: I did another podcast today where we were doing running
Speaker 2: back ranks and I had the Texas guy had of them.
Speaker 1: The problem with Texas, you know, is that he's coming
Speaker 1: off in a cl Well.
Speaker 2: I didn't know this until I start digging in. He
Speaker 2: only has like three hundred and eighty touches in because
Speaker 2: he had Bejeon ahead of them and Roshawn Johnson and
Speaker 2: coming off an a cl I get Benson being there though,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's baking these fast and he tested really
Speaker 2: really well.
Speaker 1: Forty eight as a dece Isaac.
Speaker 2: Do you think a running back will be drafted before
Speaker 2: the Steelers second round pick. I don't think there's one
Speaker 2: that stands out, but there's five.
Speaker 1: But if there's one that you like, the one that
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you get, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they could.
Speaker 2: I have to look at.
Speaker 1: Because I think I think there's some teams after the
Speaker 1: Steelers Dallas.
Speaker 2: You know, so I think some of the playoff teams
Speaker 2: would use in the r Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's some teams that, you know, maybe Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Maybe Buffalo to compliment a big back, kimber the Wisconsin guy.
Speaker 2: I think there'll be second rounders. I just don't know
Speaker 2: if it'll be top fifty.
Speaker 1: But if you want one of those guys and you're
Speaker 1: picking in that top fifty, then maybe you take him,
Speaker 1: because hey, we have we have him as our top back.
Speaker 1: If he if we wait to take him till round three,
Speaker 1: we're not going to get him, right.
Speaker 2: Oh, I hear you there. I just don't know that
Speaker 2: many people will look at this backclass and say that's
Speaker 2: the one I need, or I'll just take whatever get
Speaker 2: I get the next round.
Speaker 1: Forty nine is Christian Haynes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about him earlier. Yeah, solid, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then fifty Massan Smith.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, Yeah, we've been sneaking him out in the
Speaker 2: fourth round of audits. Yeah, I don't think that's starting
Speaker 2: to dry up pretty quick. So he was the fourth
Speaker 2: d tackle from what I remember. Yeah, I had a
Speaker 2: sweat ahead of Oko, all those guys, head of Jenkins,
Speaker 2: I understand it. I mean, I mean he brings.
Speaker 1: Pounds and he ran a five oh one forty and
Speaker 1: there's production like there was production there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know this is extreme, but I've heard him
Speaker 2: compare to stuff onto it mostly is like a eighteen
Speaker 2: nineteen twe year old early in his career and coming
Speaker 2: out of high school. But he's that style. And they
Speaker 2: don't grow on trees.
Speaker 1: They don't grow on trees.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Looking at those running back rankings, he had Benson since
Speaker 1: there was only one, he has, Benson won, Jonathan Brooks two,
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd three, Blake Korham for Braylen Allen five.
Speaker 2: They were my five. The Tennessee kid was a just
Speaker 2: miss for me. More of a speed guy. Alan's interesting
Speaker 2: he's really really lost her and he's super youns her,
Speaker 2: he's super young.
Speaker 1: Theme ran for a thousand yards at seventeen in the
Speaker 1: Big Ten?
Speaker 2: Did he really? What I was gonna say is he
Speaker 2: has twenty hundred yard games and he just turned twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he was starting at Wisconsin as a seventeen
Speaker 1: year old who didn't turn eighteen during their season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Parker and he's big and he's fast, and
Speaker 2: he's hard to get on the ground. They don't throw
Speaker 2: the backs much, but there are people think he has
Speaker 2: a lot of untapped potential as a receiver. He just
Speaker 2: hard thing to know.
Speaker 1: If the Steelers were in the market for the style,
Speaker 1: he would be the guy.
Speaker 2: You haven't bentioned. I think that would be interested.
Speaker 1: Without a doubt. Look at some of those other positions
Speaker 1: that we didn't get too far deep into. Safety tight end,
Speaker 1: tight end hit brock bos because the Yeah he's Jared
Speaker 1: Wiley too, Jatavian Sanders, Street Tanner McLaughlin four, Theo Johnson
Speaker 1: five H.
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know more about McLaughlin, but what's
Speaker 2: his face? Wiley had a really good combine. Theo Johnson's
Speaker 2: done really well monster. He likes this Penn State seems
Speaker 2: to do this, Like why does he have more catches?
Speaker 2: I mean they they have all these athletes and all
Speaker 2: these tight ends, and they don't. Yeah, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: much production or oway or chop. Like they have some
Speaker 2: specimens and but the production is always a question of those.
Speaker 1: Yes, the guard position was Fatanu Barton, a Cheetah, Haynes,
Speaker 1: zach Zinter Cooper Bebee.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mentioned I did that mock today. I traded
Speaker 2: down a couple spots and ended up with an extra fifth.
Speaker 2: I took Ziner. I'm like, he can red shirt all
Speaker 2: year long.
Speaker 1: He might be ready by the time. It was a
Speaker 1: fractured tibia.
Speaker 2: And I don't think the Steelers have a guard need
Speaker 2: at all. Right, I don't care. It's I get a
Speaker 2: second first round player in the fifth and maybe he
Speaker 2: waits a year. Yeah, all right, I had an extra pick,
Speaker 2: you know, let's do it.
Speaker 1: He's actually I did my interior linement. He was my sleeper.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm like, he's gonna go somewhere in that
Speaker 1: and he should go. Yeah, at the very least, he
Speaker 1: should be one of the early picks in day two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a team like I don't know, the
Speaker 2: Bengals or the Chiefs or that look like they're okay
Speaker 2: at guard should just draft them and send him a
Speaker 2: year when one of their guys is gonna be a
Speaker 2: free agent after the years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's center, it's Powers Johnson, Frasier Tanner,
Speaker 1: Border leaning now three.
Speaker 2: Nah, that's some steam.
Speaker 1: Cedric van Print four, Bolimmer five.
Speaker 2: Okay, Limmer was impressive too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can see Border Ladie or even Limmer over Van Pran.
Speaker 1: Those defensive tackles after Mason Smith as Chris Jenkins.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh that was the fourth of fifth. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The linebackers, he is Cooper, Colson, Wilson, Cedric Gray, Jeremiah Trotter.
Speaker 2: That seems like the five.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who's six would be, but they seem
Speaker 2: like the most logical five.
Speaker 1: Cornerback we went through the safety we had no safeties
Speaker 1: in the top fifty. He is Jaden Hicks, Tyler Nuban,
Speaker 1: Cameron Kinchin's cole Bishop, Jevon Bullard.
Speaker 2: I like that group. Yeah, I mean Bullard is a
Speaker 2: big slot as well. Hicks moves around really really well
Speaker 2: in his size for a while yeah, he's a real
Speaker 2: solid player. It's a good group. Yeah yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I could see not on them being in the top fifty,
Speaker 2: but I would love to get my hands on one
Speaker 2: of those guys in the third, fourth round.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: You get a good value on a pretty good player.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of them can place a lot too.
Speaker 1: And I wonder how many of those guys get pushed
Speaker 1: down because they're you know, in a normal year, would
Speaker 1: Jayden Hicks or Tyler Tyler Nuban be at thirty five
Speaker 1: because there are so many tackles and you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those guys scream late first, early second almost
Speaker 2: every year, and this year you might get a mid
Speaker 2: second maybe, you know.
Speaker 1: Just because there's so many guys got to take tackles.
Speaker 2: I got ten corners.
Speaker 1: Tackles will be taken before the Steelers make their second
Speaker 1: round pick.
Speaker 2: I was asked the exact same question, but with receivers
Speaker 2: that too, that's gonna be a higher number. I mean,
Speaker 2: because I think the tackles might dry up after those
Speaker 2: seven or eight. They'll still get a suwer Mattiatia and
Speaker 2: the Arizona dude I think will end up.
Speaker 1: Going maybe by the time we're done with this, you know,
Speaker 1: guy like Chris Jones made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna mention the other Washington kid, Sumers
Speaker 2: something something something because every one thought he's a guard only,
Speaker 2: but his combine was really kind to him too for
Speaker 2: arm length movement. He might be a right tackle too.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll go before, you know, mid fifties. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I could see a run of receivers, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course the top four will be long gone, but.
Speaker 1: But then it'll start, it'll start back up. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll start back up in around twenty somewhere in the
Speaker 1: mid twenties.
Speaker 2: And just be a Carolina's first pick in the second round. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and teams like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like eight of the next fifteen picks or receivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the Michigan kid, Mconkee. I mean there's a
Speaker 2: lot of them to like, both from Texas and maybe
Speaker 2: another Washington one. Yeah right, yeah, there's a lot of them.
Speaker 1: They add up pretty quick, absolutely, but we're going to
Speaker 1: get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm
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Speaker 1: Speaking of the upcoming season, we were just chatting here
Speaker 1: off the Earth. So the Bills today, listen to this
Speaker 1: list of guys they released. Naim Hines knew that was coming.
Speaker 2: Unfortunate. That's off the field accident, right.
Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy, center, Mitch Morse, cornerback ter Davius White, safety
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, and defensive backs are on neil.
Speaker 2: I mean three of those guys are foundational Bills. I mean, yeah, White, Poyer,
Speaker 2: the other safeties up for a free agency as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Morris has been a really solid center for them. Dave
Speaker 2: Davis is a free agent to be. They don't have much.
Speaker 2: I thought they're roster minus Allen. You know, the non
Speaker 2: quarterback roster for the Bills. It was good, not great
Speaker 2: last year, and now it's going to be below average
Speaker 2: or maybe good at best. And Allen's capable of doing
Speaker 2: a lot of great things, but this would probably be
Speaker 2: his worst supporting cast he's ever had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Dolphins are cutting guys left and right.
Speaker 1: And the Jets might be the big winner here because
Speaker 1: the Patriots stink, and.
Speaker 2: The Patriots flat outstink, and we shocked if they don't
Speaker 2: stink next year, at least Miami and Buffalo are going
Speaker 2: to be two of the teams. Maybe the two teams
Speaker 2: hit hardest in this week or two. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be able to go add much either,
Speaker 2: Christin Wilkins and a couple offensive linemen, and Miami's lost
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: The Detexans have resigned deck Or They've signed deck kicker
Speaker 1: Carrier Fairbaan to a three year, fifteen point nine million
Speaker 1: dollar contract.
Speaker 2: It's a lot, but he's good and they won, and
Speaker 2: you know that's the going right now. Yeah, trust is important.
Speaker 1: The Seahawks released defensive tackle Brian Mohan.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know much about him, but we they
Speaker 2: released both their safe their safeties, Yester, we got back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: since we were convened. I wonder what Diggs is well
Speaker 2: asking on the open market.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's thirty one.
Speaker 2: I know he's thirty one, but yeah, he's he's the
Speaker 2: better of the two. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then zach Ertz signing a one year deal with
Speaker 1: Washington move up to five million dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, why would I don't know if that's what I'd
Speaker 2: be doing right now.
Speaker 1: But I get it because this isn't a great tight end.
Speaker 2: They released Logan Thomas draft.
Speaker 1: The draft to share at the tight end position is
Speaker 1: not like it was last Now, and they're gonna take
Speaker 1: a quarterback at one. Yeah, and so he gives you.
Speaker 1: We also saw Dalton Schultz yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got.
Speaker 1: Tections, gave him, gave him twelve million a year, three years,
Speaker 1: thirty six million.
Speaker 2: I thought that was an awful lot. But there's something
Speaker 2: to be said for just having a guy you trusted.
Speaker 2: I think Ertz wants to be that guy. I would
Speaker 2: imagine Washington looks at him as a locker room leader
Speaker 2: or two. You know, But I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: the kind of moves I've been making right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they got the money and they wanted
Speaker 1: to jump on things here.
Speaker 2: Houston has a lot of money, Washington has gobs of money.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Kevin Patra on NFL dot Com some notable players
Speaker 1: who could be underpriced and overpriced on the open market
Speaker 1: starting next week.
Speaker 2: I come a long list of overpriced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, players who could be underpriced. Is leading that list.
Speaker 1: He has Bryce huff Eh, he might get more money
Speaker 1: than people think.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I might have put him on the over list.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have ten sacks last year. Guys
Speaker 1: who had ten sacks last year, probably gonna get paid.
Speaker 2: So, oh, he's gonna get paid heavy. And I just
Speaker 2: think the new team might think he's a sixty snap
Speaker 2: guy when he's really twenty five. I mean, he's just
Speaker 2: he's Rob Bibble coming out of the pan. He don't
Speaker 2: ask him to be a starter. Frankie Luvu he's saying
Speaker 2: cheap or too he's gonna be he said he's gonna
Speaker 2: be a bar underpriced. I don't see him being a bargain.
Speaker 2: I think somebody needs to be over ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like him a lot, but he's not for everyone.
Speaker 2: You want to be a downhill blitzing linebacker. He's not
Speaker 2: an old school thumper, but he's not Fred Warner in
Speaker 2: covered No, you know.
Speaker 1: Jacobe Burssette, Oh, I love that one. Yeah, Durrance Armstrong, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think their edge rusher. Yeah, sixteen sacks
Speaker 1: are passed two seasons. He probably gets paid somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We haven't talked about any of the edge guys
Speaker 2: really because I don't think the Steelers will be heavily
Speaker 2: in the market. I think they'll probably bring back Golden
Speaker 2: or somebody like that. I guess that's a good call.
Speaker 2: But when you said he had sixteen sacks. It was like, really, okay,
Speaker 2: well then he should be on that list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny Moore, I think Kenny Moore's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe his age keeps his number down a little. Hey,
Speaker 2: if the Steers signed him to a one or two years.
Speaker 1: It was twenty nine in August.
Speaker 2: He's not old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not ancient. No, and he's maybe he's a
Speaker 1: good player. Might be the best slot corner in the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're walking around in the conversation. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a big banner him out front. He's one of their
Speaker 2: best players.
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2: I don't either. I think he's fine, but I think
Speaker 2: he's close to the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's twenty nine years old. He didn't run well
Speaker 1: coming into the league.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's popular around here and I
Speaker 2: get that, but I think people look at him like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's been blocked all these years by those two. No,
Speaker 2: I think he's a three. Yeah what he is?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And then the last one on the could be
Speaker 1: underpriced is Jeremy Chin. We talked a lot about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to roll with Dice on a guy
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Twenty six year old former first round draft pick.
Speaker 2: That. Yeah, he's got a lot of talent. He's had
Speaker 2: some flashes in the league. I mean, I wouldn't say
Speaker 2: he's a boss. He just is gonna find a right
Speaker 2: role for him.
Speaker 1: Could be overpriced. Leading that list is Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna make more.
Speaker 1: Money than like I've seen people, aren't the Steelers talking
Speaker 1: about signing Baker Mayfield. Baker, You're gonna pay for Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield thirty five million dollars?
Speaker 2: That's about say from what I've heard. They just resigned
Speaker 2: Evans and they franchised Winfield. They have some big things
Speaker 2: going on in Tampa and he's next. Obviously they're trying
Speaker 2: to get done before the deadline here, and I guess
Speaker 2: they went to him with here's the Geno Smith contract,
Speaker 2: you know, and he goes, I'm first overall pick.
Speaker 1: I want Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2: I want at least did you notice the cap just
Speaker 2: went up a bazillion dollars?
Speaker 1: I want?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's what he's gonna ask for and
Speaker 2: he's gonna end up well over thirty No, thanks, Marquise Brown, Hmmm,
Speaker 2: I think you might get him in a reasonable deal.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's overrated. I think he's a
Speaker 1: two I think he's a one trick pony that Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know again there, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's what he'll get paid as. But like I'd
Speaker 2: rather of him than Gabe Davis.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem though, in this draft we just talked
Speaker 1: about how deep the receiver class.
Speaker 2: I think you might get him cheap, but I.
Speaker 1: Think the top guys are going to still get paid.
Speaker 2: Will the Pittman's and Evans, Yeah, those guys.
Speaker 1: And maybe Marquise Brown falls into that.
Speaker 2: If he does, then he's definitely overpaid. Yeah, but if
Speaker 2: he's in the next tier, that's noticeably less. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that he's I don't think he's a fit for
Speaker 2: the Steelers, but I think he could be decent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: depends what he ends up making.
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, I agree with that. Somebody, somebody's gonna pay
Speaker 1: him a lot of money.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get the Edmonds deal last year.
Speaker 1: He's Robin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's that guy. I'd be wary
Speaker 2: if I'm Seattle. I bet they're gonna jump all.
Speaker 1: Over Oh I think they will too. Uh, Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: what do you think he makes so I bet he
Speaker 1: gets five maybe, I bet he signs the deals for
Speaker 1: like two years, ten million dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, if I were him, Mike, yeah, make you more
Speaker 2: than I was gonna think the numbers even higher, not
Speaker 2: that he didn't get, but you don't want to.
Speaker 1: You don't pay for what he's done because he didn't
Speaker 1: do it for you.
Speaker 2: He was good last year, though it was, and I
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna be done two years ago. I
Speaker 2: don't know. If I were him, I would go take less,
Speaker 2: which is easy for me to say, it's not my money,
Speaker 2: and really play for a contender. Go play for Dallas,
Speaker 2: go play for Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Fifteen over fifteen hundred carries the last five years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I thought he'd be shut down two
Speaker 2: years ago. It still doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, Yeah, Chase Young is the last game.
Speaker 2: He's the last one. Yeah. I think he's David Clowney. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be a mercenary year to year
Speaker 2: trade deadline guy.
Speaker 1: That he's twenty four, he'll be on these lists. Everybody
Speaker 1: will sign the one year deal and great name he.
Speaker 2: Could have been. Yeah, early injury didn't help him, never
Speaker 2: really refined himself much as a pass rusher. He won
Speaker 2: with talented Ohio state does most of these guys do,
Speaker 2: and never took it to the next level. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying he's not a hard worker, but he is. Doesn't
Speaker 2: look like he's busting his butt to be the best
Speaker 2: he could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, But that is the list off.
Speaker 2: Of about twenty names over priced. Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 1: That's Kevin Patras. Thirteen guys on that one. We're gonna
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