WEBVTT - HR1: Draft Focus 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:06.320 Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.600 the Matt Williamson and Matt we were just talking off 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:11.960 the air, have a nice little conversation here about some 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.480 of the stuff that is going on here in this 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.560 with with some of these draft prospects. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.320 Someone just follow us around with like a recorder. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.040 Just like what we what we need is a couple 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:25.720 of interns. 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.080 Yeah, yeah, we'll pay them. Well, they could just find 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:29.240 beers follow. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.680 Us around and record what we say, yeah, and then. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.440 Take pictures of our text back and forth, and we 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.440 wouldn't and then edit it, yeah, edit it nicely. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.280 And the whole reason it came up is because of 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.479 course we're doing our rankings on the different positions for 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:44.720 Steelers dot Com. Our first one dropped today on the 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.159 quarter First of all, we each had three different quarterbacks 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.159 number one between you, me and so the three of 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.280 us I had, I had Daniels, You had Williams and 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:56.280 pursuit ahead. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.720 May I bet it's not McCarthy, No, not McCarthy. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.480 He have McCarthy in the top five. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.640 That's just taking a little personal but I get it. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:12.280 Yeah, But some of the guys, like we were talking 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.840 about the Penn State tackle who chose not to well, 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.600 he didn't choose to work. He didn't. He chose not 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:22.959 to go to the Senior Bowl, right, and then was okay, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.280 and then got hurt at the combine. Yea, And so 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.959 now you don't you don't have anything to go off 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.120 of from the Senior Bowl. The only time he saw 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.679 him at the Combine he was getting hurt. Right now, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:37.080 it does. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.040 His worst game was against Ohio State. Had a bad game. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.520 Against the best of the best competitions. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.600 It was. They'd love to see him shining. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:52.320 The defensive end from Ohio State. He's going to get drafted, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.760 maybe a third round, fourth guy, but he ate. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.880 His lunch power gave him problems. It's an NFL player. Yeah, 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.520 and I bet this. I don't know the answer. I 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.040 assume he didn't play in his bowl game. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:04.280 Yeah, I don't know the answer. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:05.760 View made it, but I wouldn't if I were him. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.160 It wasn't for the national title or playoffs or anything. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.880 So why would you, I mean, no one does anymore. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.960 So like in this unbelievably awesome tackle class, everybody else's 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.160 rising just being themselves in there. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.519 Yeah, because I brought that up because I started doing 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:24.840 my tackle rankings, and I'm like one through five and 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.560 all five of them could go before the Steelers pick, right, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.200 But there's not a whole bag. There's not a lot 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.320 of separating those guys. So when you start looking at 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.120 it in your team, and I've got I've got Senior 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:41.240 Bowl tape on player A, I've got Combine tape on 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.320 player A. Then I get his workout, I got it. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:44.440 I got to talk to it. 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.239 Do we know that he won't be able to do 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.239 penn s prote I don't know that. I don't even 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:49.280 I don't know this, haven't heard of it. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.640 But you just have more information on this guy. I 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.680 don't have as much information on that guy. 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.840 And you're very happy with the other dude. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.919 because I think he came in as the favorite number one, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.000 and frankly, he should have came out a year ago. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.000 I mean he I think he goes ahead of Roderick 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:06.440 Jones right to Johnson. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.840 Then he started to say push past him. Ye, and 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.400 then and you start to see Latham maybe push past him. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:12.520 I'm gonna have Latham ahead of him. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.000 I am too. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.320 I'll probably have him third, but there's a case he 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:16.400 could be six or seventh. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:17.720 I put him fifth. 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.080 Yeah, that's gutsy. 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:23.359 It's mean, I don't know. He may not go fifth, right, 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.320 But I just know more about these other guys. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.240 And of course the NFL than all of us put together, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.880 of course, but still they're all human beings and there 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.320 is a what have you done for me lately? Situation? 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.320 And you're watching these guys just shine so much at 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.160 Combines and Senior Bowls. I mean, I don't think Giten's 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:44.800 going to go ahead of him, but he did really, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.800 really well at both events. You know, Like how many 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.200 guys can say that the last time that we saw 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.440 you move in person, you look really good. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.760 Yeah, I mean I just so crowded, and you know, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.960 to me, we you know, on Monday we talked about 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:02.080 Fatanu from Washington, like, you know, we didn't he is 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.960 he a guard? Is he a tackle? Well, that looks 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.800 like he's tackle. He's a tackle. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.720 Right, There's another one in the equation that is potentially 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.640 better than him. I mean, I think he probably had 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.920 the better year of the two on tape, you know, 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:18.600 than for Shano. You know, so you mentioned off year two. 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.240 You know, we are doing our top five lists. I 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.719 have not got tackles yet, I've only done running backs 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.720 and quarterbacks, and you're gonna leave crazy. Maybe the Steelers 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.240 first round pick off there, or you know, three first 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.160 round picks off there. Potentially it's bonkers. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.800 Oh, there's there's probably going to be at least eight 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:36.360 in the first round. 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.200 I think so we all did. We did first. It 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.320 did mocks recently that we're not going to use for 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.640 a little while. But I ended up putting the Byu 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.039 kid to the Niners at thirty one because I thought 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.880 O line was their biggest need. He's a good developmental 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.200 player for them, and all their tackles were gone in 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.640 the top play twenty five or so in my mock. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:00.520 That being said, I did my interior offensive line ranking today. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.280 I love it. That's not well, there's actually some three 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.800 centers eat five spots. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.599 You get the three centers you got bb from uh 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.440 BB's from k State. Yeah, might be might slide into 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:13.559 the end of the first round. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.920 Yeah, I think he's early day two. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.640 Yeah, very worse. Yeah. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:18.160 Yeah. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.760 And then you know the Haines kid from Haynes from 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.040 Connecticut was my fifth guy. Like, those guys are all 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.960 going to be gone and maybe the top fifty picks. Fifty, yeah, 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.480 fifty five, sixty. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.679 He'll be there for the Steel second round pick. Maybe 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:31.120 they might not. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.440 Yeah, yeah, they definitely won't be there for round three. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:38.200 Right, And I think your interior lineman, I assume you 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.800 didn't cheat and put Fatanu with the interior guy. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.880 I did not. Last year, I did with I counted 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.400 him as a tackle. I think he's a tackle. He's 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.360 got a toger arms and some of the then some 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.920 of the other guys we were looking at his tackles. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.520 What's funny is for Waga from Moregan short arm, it's 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.640 kind of the opposite. He's sixty six, but his arms 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.320 are a little short. Where if Atan who's six four 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:58.680 and his arms are long? 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.000 Which one would you So, since you brought it up, 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:01.880 what would you rather have? 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.760 As as both their tapes great, you're not saying which 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:06.680 player would you rather have? 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.400 Well, in terms of the of the traits, the guy's 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.640 six four, but he's got long arms. The other guy's 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.559 six six, but he's got shorter arms. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:20.280 Yeah, who as they are ridiculously they're both really good prospects. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.200 And I mean I'm not even saying which one you'd want, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.680 just which of those two packages would you rather have. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.599 I think I'll take the short with the long arms 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.200 because then he could zack Martin it. If it doesn't 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.919 work out, then probably be a great guard. Not that 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.080 you know, I got be a bad guard, but he 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.160 could be too high for the Aaron Donalds of the 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.919 world and things like that. So yeah, I think I 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.560 would rather have the long arms. Does Fogga birt bother 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.880 you at all? And again, I mean this is splitting hair. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.000 I mean these are verse Geiten and mems and for 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.320 Sean every name we've mentioned. I would love his tape. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.960 I thought he was great at the SNEA Bowl and nasty. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.600 I mean, I think he's very plug and play as 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.280 your right tackle from day one on. I don't know 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.039 if it'll make my top five or not, though, I 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.880 mean five is hard to Naron Divas, that guy would 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:06.560 make it every year. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.640 And that's where we're like, so you have a like 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.880 the Penn State kid could go from being number one. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.520 He would have been number one a couple months ago. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.520 From maybe he's number five, And the difference in that 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:21.200 is the difference between going fifth, sixth, seventh, somewhere in there, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.520 and maybe nineteenth or twentieth. Yeah, that's a significant amount 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:26.240 of money. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.800 A significan amount of money. Like, do I think there's 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.760 any chance for Sewn who's there for the Steelers? I 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.360 really don't know. I don't I don't know. And I'm 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.040 sure he'll do some kind of workout or deep down 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.640 to people in the NFL and know what that guy is. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.600 And some of us are probably just too excited about 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.920 the others because we've seen him lately. But I don't 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.520 think he's gonna go top five. I think like the 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.480 Jets of ten is where he's gonna end up. Where 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.520 he could have went like second overall last year. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:56.840 Yeah, while we're on the subject of those tackles, this 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.840 alt's height six nine. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:02.000 When's too tall? 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:03.800 When is too tall for a tackle? 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.920 His shuttle was so good that made me not worry 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:07.920 about But this was but. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.520 The ben you know, the the you know, the small 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.360 We saw it for years with with with James Harrison 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.080 getting up under those those tall guys. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.040 Sure. I mean you always ogged in had a hard 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.240 time with Harrison and Freeeny, and I mean Ogden's an 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.080 all time great. I mean if alterns the dog and 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:22.160 you're thrilled. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.440 I mean now, Villanueva struggled with some of the shorter guys. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.640 Then Carl Lawson from the from the Bengals with the 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.559 Bengals gave him fits because he was under six foot. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.120 Yeah. I mean, I think the fact that why I 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.160 brought a short shuttle is because he got low. He bends, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.040 he changes directions. You know. I didn't think his shuttle 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.240 time would be close to as good as it is. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.520 And all his other drills were phenomenal too. But it 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.080 doesn't worry me now. But what people need to think 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.600 about the ages as he ages and he's a little 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.000 less flexible and he's had an ankle that's been bugging them, and. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:57.120 His back starts to bother. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.600 Yeah yeah maybe. But by then, though, these guys learn 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.360 more tricks of the trade and know how to hold 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.080 better and stuff like that too. But I mean, we've 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.760 never seen like a six ' ten tackle. Yeah, I 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.320 think that'd be a real problem, you know, I mean 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:11.800 when when's too tall to. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.160 I remember when the Steelers had Chris Ferris and well 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.199 he's six y nine. Yeah, he's six ' nine. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.800 He couldn't bend, couldn't bend, and people get under him. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.679 And if you can't stop power, you're not gonna last 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.439 in this league. Yeah. And if you can't rush with power, 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.560 you can't last in this league. Tall guys are going 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:26.439 to struggle with power. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:32.719 By the same token we've seen Marvin Harrison not he 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:38.080 he's only gonna do medicals for the teams that he visits. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:39.960 Yeah, I mean he didn't do medicals in Indy. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.520 He skipped out. He skipped out on his media stuff 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:43.920 in Indy. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.920 Yeah, like those two things I would have advised him 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:48.160 to do. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.880 Yeah, what does it hurt you to do the media availability? 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.959 It's fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes, go up there, state your case. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.600 I mean, and I know, the medicals a long day, 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.000 but it's kind of what you do. That's what you're there, 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.040 that's what you're there for. Especially we're not going to 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.440 work out. You go home after that. I mean, I 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.360 don't quite get that. And it's and it's not like 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:13.679 there aren't other wide receivers who are getting top tank consideration. Yeah, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.040 so again, you open the door for those guys to 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.000 maybe pass you maybe. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.840 I mean in such a tight market. I mean, again, 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.880 he's not fighting Jordan Addison to be the first receiver 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.240 off the board. He's fighting neighbors and you know guys 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.240 that are usually the first receiver off the board in 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.280 any class. And you may even mentioned Caleb Williams. I mean, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.960 I don't know either one of those guys personally, but 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:37.679 they're obviously professionals at this point. You know, they they 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.320 have money, they and this is to be something that 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.880 it's ever changing draft landscape. They have a lot of 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.640 people in their ear, which isn't new, but they have 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.840 their own brands, you know. They they come in the league. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:52.360 In one way, it's good. It's like I've seen how 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.120 this guy handles money to some degree, but they think 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.840 they have more power than they do in my opinion, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.600 you know, like the league as a whole is not 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.320 going to just cater to all these guys, is just saying, oh, sure, 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:02.920 that's what you want, Sonny boy, that's great. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.120 You know, it's not what this league has been about. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.680 And you know, it's more of an NBA type thing. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:12.679 I don't know enough about the league, but it sounds 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:12.959 that way. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.880 Yeah, you know so. And I've also heard that there 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.880 was a push from the NFLPA to that they don't 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.200 want reporters in the locker room period. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.120 Any period, anyone period. What do you feel about that? Like, 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.079 I've always thought that's a little odd. To be very 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.160 honest with you, I've never been that guy thing. It's like, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:32.079 let them get dressed. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.240 So that was that was a situation during COVID, Right, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.760 you didn't have any reporters in the locker room. So 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.360 what what ends up happening is you hear from the 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.800 same six players on everything. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:43.920 That's terrible. Yeah. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.400 And you also, for example, you know some of the 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.200 feature type stuff that that I do for Steelers dot Com, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.840 Well you never get those stories because I can't go 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.600 into the locker room and talk to the force you 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.680 know there the third string tight end or I can't 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.760 go in there and talk like those guys, and you 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.959 never hear for on game for example, on game is 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.000 one of my biggest problems with with COVID. We always 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.000 got the stars of the game, for example, Okay, this 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.400 guy kick off, Yeah, this guy in an interception, this 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.800 guy scored a touchdown. Never get to talk to the 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.520 offensive lineman after a game. Those guys always know what 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:22.880 went wrong or what went right. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.920 Some of the smartest guys on the smartest guys. 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.680 And you never got to talk to him during the 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.400 COVID period because they weren't made available. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.160 Yeah, I mean I felt for you during COVID because 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.760 the really good people to do what you do got 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.200 leveled with everybody else on a zoom call. It's like 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.040 we all have the same information. Yeah, that's yeah, we 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:41.839 all the same answers to the tests. I mean, that's 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.760 that's not as much skill involved then in my opinion. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.200 But I always did kind of think it's weird that 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.880 a bunch of people come into locker room all the're 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.560 getting changed. I mean, couldn't there Well. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.840 There's a there's a cooling down period after I thought, 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.240 you don't go in there immediately after the game. Yeah, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.800 they get ten minutes to kind of chill out and 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.199 then they know it's coming. Yeah, you know, it's part 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.520 of the process. It's part of your job. That's why 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.280 you make the money that you do to you know, 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.400 the answer questions about about this, you know these kind 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.920 of things, and it's it's great pr for the league. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.640 Like that's the key is without the media of the 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.840 leagues on making the money that it is and the 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.000 people listening don't get the information they want. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.920 Like everybody wants more and more information. Are there going 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:26.400 to be some negative stories that commanded? 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.560 Absolutely? Probably right, But there's no such thing as bad press. No, 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.960 I hear the other thing I've been hearing more than 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.319 about two. Do you think there'll be less people doing 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:42.400 combine drills? Like I could see a day a generation 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.680 from now that people will laugh at us holding a 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.880 watch or for a forty R dash when all the 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.720 malper stuff is there for the football field, you know, like, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.120 well we have technology that we don't have to do 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:53.920 these drills. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:58.760 Well there's but I think someday not necessarily. I mean, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.200 I think the drill works still matter, but maybe you 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.800 don't do the measurements on the times and and things 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.720 of that nature. You know that that could become passity. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.240 But that the you know, the the mirror drills for 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.800 the offensive lineman and some of those kind of things. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.000 I thought those were the most value of anything. Yeah, 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:17.480 you know, like of any drill there. I wanted to 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.680 see the W drills for the h D backs and 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.560 I wanted to see the mirror stuff for the old lineman, 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.640 one after another after another. Yeah, you can tell who's 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:25.800 better than the others, right, you. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.240 Can see who's he's way more smooth than that last. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.920 So those I don't think go away. Yeah, and I 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:36.560 still think that there's great value. Especially here's the thing. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.520 The people who are opting out of this stuff now 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.040 are again the guys who think that they're going to. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.840 Go the elite of the elite very highly. 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.600 Yeah, or unless you're somebody I'm dealing with a little 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.880 something here, I'm not going to that's a different world, right, 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.080 But it doesn't behoove you. Let's say you're a you 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.480 got a third round type guy, it doesn't behoove you. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:14:59.560 Just I'm not going to work out. 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:00.720 You're gonna lose every you're. 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.360 Gonna Yeah, you're gonna lose every typereak. You're gonna cost 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.000 yourself money. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.400 Yeah, I'm definitely gonna take the guy. Know more about 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.320 I mean, I'm taking the bird in the hand all 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.160 day long. Yeah, No, I'm with you. But I do 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.240 think it's interesting that Harrison and Williams in particular are 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.520 such big brand names. Everyone's been telling them I'm gonna 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.640 be the first pick in the draft forever, the foregone conclusion. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.080 I think they think they have more power than they do, though, 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.360 and when it's all said and done, well's. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.800 I mean, you know, like JJ McCarthy goes to the 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.520 combine and throws and people, I can't believe he's throwing 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.440 here at the combine. I think he helped himself though, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.920 because you got to see him throw, yeah, against you 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.480 got to see him thro against Panics. You got to 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.200 see him throw versus Nicks and all the other guys 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.160 who were potentially trying to be that that fourth quarterback 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:46.680 on the list. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.240 You're a good thrower. People don't care if it's incomplete 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.000 because you're right, you and your receiver don't have a 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.000 connection or what I mean. I understand throwing at the 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.760 Pro Day, but that's like the Pro Day. That's everybody 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:58.520 that's kindergarten. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.840 Yeah, you're throwing the guys that you you hand picked, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.360 hand picked, and you're throwing the routes that you hand. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.760 Picked exactly fifty throws or whatever. Yeah, wow, all fifty 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:07.480 its rows? Right. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.200 I can remember watching too is Pro Day because he 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:10.840 hadn't thrown. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.600 Was it like the rugs and bottle of this guy. 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.880 But it was all like, oh, here's a little six 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.280 yard out and here's you know, here's the I'm gonna 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.920 throw this bubble screen like that doesn't tell me. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:27.040 Anything great, Yeah, right right now. I think quarterback pro days, 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.960 that's like watching a layup drow Yeah, and like you 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:34.600 should better the forty fifty in those Yeah, I mean, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.400 and of course you'll try a couple of tough throws 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.560 at the end. But it's still on about. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.680 The Zach Wilson pro he made this jump throw across, like, yeah, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.720 when is he gonna do that? And again, when's that happened? 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.080 That's like playing watching guys play horse or something to 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.520 figure out who you want the NBA. Come on, Yeah, No, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.200 it's interesting though. Uh, the top of the drafts pretty 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.560 interesting and strong, and I mentioned but just moving. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.600 A couple of slots mean a lot can mean you 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.360 go a lot money. If you were the if you 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:02.960 were gonna be the fourth pick and all of a 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.800 sudden you slide to seven, you just cost yourself about 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:06.719 three million dollars. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.960 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean just because you didn't think 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.480 you had to work out or weren't ready or willing 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.200 to compete against really strong competition. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.320 At the end of the day, this is still your 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.719 interviewing for a job. Yeah, And teams are beams are 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.760 spending a lot of money on these picks. You're gonna 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.320 take the safer pick, You're gonna take the guy that 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:26.399 you know more about. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.480 So I'm sure we'll go over a mock in the 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.119 next couple days or whatever. Today, I'm sure I had 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.760 a hunch. And this is a little off topic, but 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.800 the more I study this draft too, right around like 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.879 where the Bills pick, Like those final four teams and 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.439 the Bills they're the final five picks in the draft. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.480 I think that's about where the first rounders end. Yeah, 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.520 I mean, like because almost all the picks I've had 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.000