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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt we were just talking off

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Speaker 1: the air, have a nice little conversation here about some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that is going on here in this

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Speaker 1: with with some of these draft prospects.

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Speaker 2: Someone just follow us around with like a recorder.

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Speaker 1: Just like what we what we need is a couple

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Speaker 1: of interns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll pay them. Well, they could just find

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Speaker 2: beers follow.

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Speaker 1: Us around and record what we say, yeah, and then.

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Speaker 2: Take pictures of our text back and forth, and we

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Speaker 2: wouldn't and then edit it, yeah, edit it nicely.

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Speaker 1: And the whole reason it came up is because of

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Speaker 1: course we're doing our rankings on the different positions for

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Speaker 1: Steelers dot Com. Our first one dropped today on the

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Speaker 1: quarter First of all, we each had three different quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: number one between you, me and so the three of

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Speaker 1: us I had, I had Daniels, You had Williams and

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Speaker 1: pursuit ahead.

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Speaker 2: May I bet it's not McCarthy, No, not McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: He have McCarthy in the top five.

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Speaker 2: That's just taking a little personal but I get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But some of the guys, like we were talking

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Speaker 1: about the Penn State tackle who chose not to well,

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Speaker 1: he didn't choose to work. He didn't. He chose not

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Speaker 1: to go to the Senior Bowl, right, and then was okay,

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Speaker 1: and then got hurt at the combine. Yea, And so

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Speaker 1: now you don't you don't have anything to go off

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Speaker 1: of from the Senior Bowl. The only time he saw

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Speaker 1: him at the Combine he was getting hurt. Right now,

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Speaker 1: it does.

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Speaker 2: His worst game was against Ohio State. Had a bad game.

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Speaker 1: Against the best of the best competitions.

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Speaker 2: It was. They'd love to see him shining.

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Speaker 1: The defensive end from Ohio State. He's going to get drafted,

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Speaker 1: maybe a third round, fourth guy, but he ate.

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Speaker 2: His lunch power gave him problems. It's an NFL player. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I bet this. I don't know the answer. I

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Speaker 2: assume he didn't play in his bowl game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know the answer.

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Speaker 2: View made it, but I wouldn't if I were him.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't for the national title or playoffs or anything.

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Speaker 2: So why would you, I mean, no one does anymore.

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Speaker 2: So like in this unbelievably awesome tackle class, everybody else's

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Speaker 2: rising just being themselves in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I brought that up because I started doing

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Speaker 1: my tackle rankings, and I'm like one through five and

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Speaker 1: all five of them could go before the Steelers pick, right,

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Speaker 1: But there's not a whole bag. There's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of separating those guys. So when you start looking at

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Speaker 1: it in your team, and I've got I've got Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl tape on player A, I've got Combine tape on

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Speaker 1: player A. Then I get his workout, I got it.

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Speaker 1: I got to talk to it.

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Speaker 2: Do we know that he won't be able to do

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Speaker 2: penn s prote I don't know that. I don't even

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Speaker 2: I don't know this, haven't heard of it.

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Speaker 1: But you just have more information on this guy. I

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Speaker 1: don't have as much information on that guy.

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Speaker 2: And you're very happy with the other dude. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I think he came in as the favorite number one,

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Speaker 2: and frankly, he should have came out a year ago.

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Speaker 2: I mean he I think he goes ahead of Roderick

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Speaker 1: Then he started to say push past him. Ye, and

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Speaker 1: then and you start to see Latham maybe push past him.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have Latham ahead of him.

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Speaker 1: I am too.

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Speaker 2: I'll probably have him third, but there's a case he

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Speaker 2: could be six or seventh.

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Speaker 1: I put him fifth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gutsy.

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Speaker 1: It's mean, I don't know. He may not go fifth, right,

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Speaker 1: But I just know more about these other guys.

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Speaker 2: And of course the NFL than all of us put together,

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Speaker 2: of course, but still they're all human beings and there

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Speaker 2: is a what have you done for me lately? Situation?

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Speaker 2: And you're watching these guys just shine so much at

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Speaker 2: Combines and Senior Bowls. I mean, I don't think Giten's

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Speaker 2: really well at both events. You know, Like how many

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Speaker 2: you move in person, you look really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just so crowded, and you know,

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Speaker 1: to me, we you know, on Monday we talked about

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Speaker 2: Right, There's another one in the equation that is potentially

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Speaker 2: You know, we are doing our top five lists. I

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Speaker 2: have not got tackles yet, I've only done running backs

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Speaker 2: and quarterbacks, and you're gonna leave crazy. Maybe the Steelers

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Speaker 2: first round pick off there, or you know, three first

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's there's probably going to be at least eight

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Speaker 2: I think so we all did. We did first. It

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Speaker 2: did mocks recently that we're not going to use for

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Speaker 2: a little while. But I ended up putting the Byu

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Speaker 2: kid to the Niners at thirty one because I thought

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Speaker 2: O line was their biggest need. He's a good developmental

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Speaker 2: player for them, and all their tackles were gone in

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Speaker 2: the top play twenty five or so in my mock.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I did my interior offensive line ranking today.

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Speaker 2: I love it. That's not well, there's actually some three

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Speaker 2: centers eat five spots.

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Speaker 1: You get the three centers you got bb from uh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's early day two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very worse. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then you know the Haines kid from Haynes from

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Speaker 1: going to be gone and maybe the top fifty picks. Fifty, yeah,

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Speaker 2: He'll be there for the Steel second round pick. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they might not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they definitely won't be there for round three.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I think your interior lineman, I assume you

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Speaker 2: didn't cheat and put Fatanu with the interior guy.

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Speaker 1: I did not. Last year, I did with I counted

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Speaker 1: him as a tackle. I think he's a tackle. He's

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Speaker 2: What's funny is for Waga from Moregan short arm, it's

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Speaker 2: kind of the opposite. He's sixty six, but his arms

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Speaker 1: Which one would you So, since you brought it up,

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Speaker 2: As as both their tapes great, you're not saying which

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Speaker 1: Well, in terms of the of the traits, the guy's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who as they are ridiculously they're both really good prospects.

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Speaker 2: And I mean I'm not even saying which one you'd want,

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Speaker 2: I think I'll take the short with the long arms

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Speaker 2: would rather have the long arms. Does Fogga birt bother

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Speaker 2: you at all? And again, I mean this is splitting hair.

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Speaker 2: I mean these are verse Geiten and mems and for

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Speaker 2: Sean every name we've mentioned. I would love his tape.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was great at the SNEA Bowl and nasty.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's very plug and play as

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Speaker 2: if it'll make my top five or not, though, I

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Speaker 2: mean five is hard to Naron Divas, that guy would

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Speaker 1: And that's where we're like, so you have a like

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Speaker 1: the Penn State kid could go from being number one.

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Speaker 2: He would have been number one a couple months ago.

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Speaker 1: From maybe he's number five, And the difference in that

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Speaker 2: A significan amount of money. Like, do I think there's

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Speaker 2: any chance for Sewn who's there for the Steelers? I

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Speaker 2: And some of us are probably just too excited about

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Speaker 2: he could have went like second overall last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, while we're on the subject of those tackles, this

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Speaker 2: When's too tall?

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Speaker 1: When is too tall for a tackle?

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Speaker 2: His shuttle was so good that made me not worry

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Speaker 1: We saw it for years with with with James Harrison

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Speaker 2: Sure. I mean you always ogged in had a hard

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Speaker 2: time with Harrison and Freeeny, and I mean Ogden's an

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Speaker 1: I mean now, Villanueva struggled with some of the shorter guys.

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Speaker 1: Bengals gave him fits because he was under six foot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think the fact that why I

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Speaker 2: And all his other drills were phenomenal too. But it

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Speaker 1: His back starts to bother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah maybe. But by then, though, these guys learn

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Speaker 2: never seen like a six ' ten tackle. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that'd be a real problem, you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: when when's too tall to.

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Speaker 1: I remember when the Steelers had Chris Ferris and well

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Speaker 1: he's six y nine. Yeah, he's six ' nine.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't bend, couldn't bend, and people get under him.

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Speaker 2: And if you can't stop power, you're not gonna last

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Speaker 2: in this league. Yeah. And if you can't rush with power,

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Speaker 2: you can't last in this league. Tall guys are going

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Speaker 1: By the same token we've seen Marvin Harrison not he

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Speaker 1: he's only gonna do medicals for the teams that he visits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he didn't do medicals in Indy.

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Speaker 1: He skipped out. He skipped out on his media stuff

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're throwing the guys that you you hand picked,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a matter of you know, who's it

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Speaker 1: You know, Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is

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Speaker 2: Oh nice, Let's go ahead and take a come back.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. And as I promised, we're going

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Speaker 1: to take a look here at Field Yates top fifty

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's really ramping up his draft stuff too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So he still has Caleb Williams number one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels now number two. I think we should we

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Speaker 1: I've moved him ahead of May. Yeah, he's I had

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Speaker 2: Especially the interviews that we people sat down with us

438
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 2: A combine and Greg Cosell stands out, but he wasn't alone. Boy,

439
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna go high. I mean, like, I mean, people

440
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: were really really excited about him. Anticipatory thrower. He definitely

441
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 2: had the best year of any quarterback, won the Heisman.

442
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 1: And their offense called for him to do more reads.

443
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, it was diverse. And he's six year guy.

444
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 2: I look at that as as a positive though. Sure,

445
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 2: and right now, I get it. I get it. I

446
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 2: was hesitant to put him over May, but I pulled

447
00:19:59,720 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 2: a trick.

448
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's six ' four. Yeah, you know he's

449
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 1: not you know, he sees he can put some body

450
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: armor on. But we've seen Lamar do that since he

451
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 1: came in.

452
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you gotta hit it.

453
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: He's got the frame to do it. He can he

454
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: can add to it and still keep that explosiveness as

455
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 1: a runner.

456
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: I would think so, and I just think.

457
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: He'll in the long term. I think he's the better

458
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 1: prospect for me.

459
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 2: Right now, now, I can see it. Yeah, I could

460
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,479
Speaker 2: definitely see it.

461
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: He has Marvin Harrison three. All right, Malik neighbors for

462
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: they're close, they're closer than that. I think Marvin Harrison

463
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 1: would like to maybe admit.

464
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 2: No, exactly exactly. That's my point too. I think Harrison's

465
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: a good receiver prospect. Ever, seeing he's got a dude

466
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 2: nipping on his heels, he better be careful.

467
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Drake May five, Sure, May I get it? Room

468
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: is six?

469
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 2: Okay again, those three quarterbacks receivers, Yeah, those guys are close.

470
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: Then he has Joe Alt seven.

471
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 2: I suppose he's going to be my number one tackle still. Yeah,

472
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: but one through five are very different, very close.

473
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: At eight, he has brock Bowers.

474
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: I see that too, finding it, finding his landing, finding

475
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: his fit stuff. Yeah, but there's also ten landing spots.

476
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 2: You'd be like, I get.

477
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: It because to me, you don't look at him as

478
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: a tight end. No, No, look at him like he

479
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: is a wide receiver who happens to be sixty three

480
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: and two hundred and.

481
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: Forty pounds and there's a matchup nightmare all over the

482
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: field and ate after the catch.

483
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean he had one hundred and seventy five catches

484
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: in over twenty five hundred yards and twenty eight touchdowns

485
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: in three seasons at Georgia and oh, by the way,

486
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: Georgia had other dudes there while he was.

487
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 2: Like the guy for the Steelers right now, and he

488
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 2: also missed some time with injury. I've heard some college

489
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: football historians say he's the best college tight end ever. Yeah,

490
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he was their number one receivts.

491
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I totally understand it

492
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 2: competitive hard to bring down. He's not a fitask player.

493
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: I totally understand he has LA two at nine. I

494
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: have a hard time putting him ahead of these upcoming tackles.

495
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: But I'm not even sure if he'd be my number

496
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: one defensive player. I think Dallas Turner would be.

497
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, twenty three and a half sacks for the

498
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: last two years. I mean he has the productions there.

499
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a handful. He's a very refined pass rusher too.

500
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 2: I mean, some of these guys are just athletes learning

501
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: how to be pass rushers. He's pretty well developed. Like

502
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 2: he's a plug and play pass rusher. Yeah. I think

503
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 2: plays a run he to.

504
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a four to three end

505
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: two than he would be for a fit for A

506
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: three four, but I could see some three could you

507
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: could still use him in a yeah?

508
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's six ' five, he's powerful. Yeah. Uh.

509
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: He has Terry and Arnold at ten.

510
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean these guys are really good players. I

511
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: just prefer some of the other offensive guys.

512
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: Still, yeah, the tackles and eleven is Byron Murphy.

513
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 2: Understandable. I mean it's hard to find negatives on him.

514
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Twelve is Dallas Turner.

515
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: Okay, really flexible, but he's not as physical as a

516
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: lot too.

517
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: At thirteen Quinya Mitchell.

518
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: Okay. I think Mitchell and Arnold are fighting for that number.

519
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: They're really close.

520
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean depending what you want. If you're a

521
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: cover three Seattle type team, I want Mitchell, yeah, I

522
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: mean Arnold to play more slot, you know. I mean

523
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: they're they're both pretty good.

524
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: Fourteen is J C.

525
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: Latham, okay.

526
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: Fifteen Troy Fatanu.

527
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: And now we're splitting hairs really yeah, I mean I

528
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: notice he has not mentioned for Shanhu that yet he

529
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: is not. But he's at sixteen okay, so he kind

530
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: of cheated. Was actually that's and was that your five?

531
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: Those are my five? I did mine yesterday before this

532
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: came out, so he's kind of in the same. But again,

533
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: you're you know, those guys are all close, really close.

534
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: But because I saw the other guys do some stuff,

535
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with.

536
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: It's a human nature thing. I mean, it's just your

537
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: stock has. I mean, how can you say for Shawan

538
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: who Stock went out when everyone around him has.

539
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: Really I think Fatanus Stock went up me too, because

540
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: he's I now know he could he can probably play

541
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: tackle in the NFL.

542
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: I was uncertain of that for sure going into the

543
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: carbine and without question.

544
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: At seventeen is Talasi Fuaga.

545
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 2: Just run back the first segment. I mean he's had

546
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: this exact conversation.

547
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: Eighteen Brian Thomas.

548
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might even have Thomas ahead of any of

549
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: the defensive players.

550
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: It's really good.

551
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much to work with.

552
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: Six three two ten pounds into four to three three.

553
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: He's just a touchdown machine.

554
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: Nineteen a Donnie Mitchell. That's as high as I've seen him.

555
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: It's a little too rich for my life. Yeah, me

556
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: as well.

557
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: At twenty is Jared Verse.

558
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think he's much different than the other

559
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: two edge guys though.

560
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. At Twenty one is Chop Robinson.

561
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: He would definitely be fourth for me, but yeah, I

562
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: see the allure.

563
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: Twenty two Jackson Powers Johnson.

564
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to say how good you are

565
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: for your position? He could be five on the list

566
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: and just how much do you value it?

567
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: Twenty three is Cooper dejen So that's his cornerback. Three three, okay,

568
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: Twenty four is Tyler Geiton.

569
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: That's a seventh tackle prospect and he's a really good one, right.

570
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: Twenty five is Nate Wiggins.

571
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: Another Those corners are pretty good, well clustered in there too,

572
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: depending what you're looking for.

573
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: And these are all these are all guys are all

574
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: first round guys.

575
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: I just say we have not run out of first round. Yeah,

576
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: you know, happy to be first round pick type guys.

577
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: Twenty six or Marius Mims.

578
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: There's another one, another one, right, what's that seven or

579
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: eight tackle on it? I think that's eight, Yeah, it's nuts.

580
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: Twenty seven Kamari Lassiter. I don't know that he goes

581
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: in the first round.

582
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we may have just run out of Yeah,

583
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: so we're twenty six, although I'm not sure Mitchell belongs.

584
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: No, Mitchell's probably too high there might be.

585
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: So we have like twenty five that you and I

586
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: would say.

587
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well in twenty h JJ McCarthy.

588
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: Let's call it twenty six. Then yeah, yeah, because he's going.

589
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: He's going on the I don't know if I would

590
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 1: have a first round great on him.

591
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: I don't think I would either.

592
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a second early second round guy.

593
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: But because he's a quarterback, he's.

594
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: Probably there's no chance he's there at twenty. So yeah,

595
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: he's going good.

596
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: Twenty nine is Lad McConkie.

597
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: Now we're in a really good second round player type.

598
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah you could talk. I mean I may I try

599
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: sneaking him into the end of the first round of

600
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: every mock drofe that I do, because I just think

601
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: he's a great player.

602
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: I did too. I did sneak both Texas receivers in

603
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: in the final five picks, the Buffalo and Kansas City

604
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: over Mconkee. But that's a little bit of recency biased

605
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: from the combine.

606
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: I just you don't want to me. You don't want

607
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: Kansas City getting Lad McConkey.

608
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: To catch one hundred and fifty ball.

609
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, yeah, uh thirty, and this guy

610
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: could go higher than This is Darius Robinson.

611
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could different, he's a different style. Yeah. Yeah,

612
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: he's the only vanilla ice cream in the group, or

613
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: strawberry or whatever. I mean, there's not many of those

614
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: that are first round considerations. One name he hasn't brought up, though,

615
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: that I didn't put in my first round is another

616
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. Is Newton. Now. I watched some more Newton

617
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: stuff and he seems like another one that's been out

618
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: of sight, out of mind lately. He's a heck of

619
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: prospect though too.

620
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: Yeah. Thirty one Xavier Legette, Oh that's a little rich

621
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: for me. Thirty two Edgar and Cooper Strong.

622
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: I think that's about reblongs.

623
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: Thirty three enis Rekestraw.

624
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: Okay, little on the skinny side, yeah.

625
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: Thirty four Jordan Morgan. There's your ninth tackle in the

626
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: top thirty four.

627
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: We haven't talked much about him, but he helped himself too. Yeah.

628
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: I mean I think he's a tackle now. He was

629
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: a little better length, bet more agile than some people

630
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: would thought. I think he could be in the first round.

631
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Thirty five is jerse On Newton.

632
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 2: Johnny Newton, Johnny Now Yeah.

633
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Graham Barton, I.

634
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: Look at him as a surefire first now, yeah, I

635
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: mean I thought he was. I put him to Dallas

636
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: just because they have like three offensive line spots that

637
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: he might well or yeah, it could be Zach Barton's

638
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: replacement some day or whatever.

639
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty seven is Zach Frazier.

640
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he's a two, but yeah, you know,

641
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: a good one, hi to Yeah, yeah.

642
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: Thirty eight Keon Coleman.

643
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: I think he got a little bit of a bum

644
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: wrap for just an ok forty. I mean we knew

645
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: he wasn't a burner big. I mean his gauntlet drill

646
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: was like perfect, and he also had the best speed

647
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: of anybody the gauntlet drill.

648
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: He's like he's a basketball player. He plays like a

649
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: basketball player, he does.

650
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: I stuck him to the Ravens thinking Odell's not going

651
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: to come back and Bateman's fribably done after this year.

652
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he hasn't really shined, big physical receiver. There's

653
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: a lot of places could use him. Oh yeah, Buffalo,

654
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Kansas City, you know.

655
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Thirty nine Braden fisk Ooh, I've done a little.

656
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: More detackle homework. I mentioned Newton Fisk gets swallowed up

657
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: in the run game. I mean his short arms hurt him. There.

658
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: He's active as could be. He's so athletic, and I

659
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: understand all the buzz around him. But a double team

660
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: he gets squashed like a hand. Yeah. I mean he

661
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: worries me more now after watching some more on him.

662
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Forty is Michael Pennix.

663
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: I get it, not for everyone. He hasn't had a

664
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: Knicks Apparently we not mentioned Knicks.

665
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: Forty one is Xavier Worthy.

666
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I don't think he's just speed. I

667
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: mean I think he's going to be a decent player,

668
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: but he's probably a Devrey Henderson taking in, you know,

669
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: and that has some value.

670
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: Forty two kool Aid McKinstry.

671
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I hope we get a workout time on him. Yeah,

672
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: I think that would really hurt him.

673
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: Forty three is bow Nicks.

674
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: Okay, would you Pinis have been Knicks? I had Knix

675
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: ahead of my hen.

676
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I had Nicks ahead of Penix, but it was I mean, yeah,

677
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: splitting hairs there too.

678
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: Nix was my five and Pinis didn't make the list,

679
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: but he would have been sick. Yeah.

680
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: Forty four Junior.

681
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: Colson, Okay, that's about right. Yeah, maybe second round consideration

682
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: for the Steelers.

683
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Forty five Jaylen Polk.

684
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't think that's wrong. It just he You

685
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: haven't heard a.

686
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: Lot about him lately, No, because he had the receivers.

687
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, forty six.

688
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: Max Melton.

689
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: Ah, I took him in the second round and we

690
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: were getting today.

691
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: We were getting him in like six rounds of our

692
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: Now I think he's the second we started here. I think, yeah,

693
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, he might be the.

694
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: Guy right after like kool Aid and Rakestraw. Now, yeah,

695
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: I mean he takes He's a hard guy to find

696
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: negatives on.

697
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: It takes the ball away. He's got speed, he's got

698
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: decent size, play inside, he can play outside exactly.

699
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: His testing numbers are Elite.

700
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: Forty seven. Trey Benson, the first running back.

701
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: I did another podcast today where we were doing running

702
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: back ranks and I had the Texas guy had of them.

703
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: The problem with Texas, you know, is that he's coming

704
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: off in a cl Well.

705
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know this until I start digging in. He

706
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: only has like three hundred and eighty touches in because

707
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: he had Bejeon ahead of them and Roshawn Johnson and

708
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: coming off an a cl I get Benson being there though,

709
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he's baking these fast and he tested really

710
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: really well.

711
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Forty eight as a dece Isaac.

712
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Do you think a running back will be drafted before

713
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: the Steelers second round pick. I don't think there's one

714
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: that stands out, but there's five.

715
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: But if there's one that you like, the one that

716
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you get, yeah, I

717
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: think they could.

718
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: I have to look at.

719
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: Because I think I think there's some teams after the

720
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: Steelers Dallas.

721
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: You know, so I think some of the playoff teams

722
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: would use in the r Yeah.

723
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: There's some teams that, you know, maybe Kansas City.

724
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Maybe Buffalo to compliment a big back, kimber the Wisconsin guy.

725
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: I think there'll be second rounders. I just don't know

726
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: if it'll be top fifty.

727
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: But if you want one of those guys and you're

728
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: picking in that top fifty, then maybe you take him,

729
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: because hey, we have we have him as our top back.

730
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: If he if we wait to take him till round three,

731
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: we're not going to get him, right.

732
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I hear you there. I just don't know that

733
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: many people will look at this backclass and say that's

734
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: the one I need, or I'll just take whatever get

735
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: I get the next round.

736
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Forty nine is Christian Haynes.

737
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about him earlier. Yeah, solid, Yeah.

738
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: And then fifty Massan Smith.

739
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, Yeah, we've been sneaking him out in the

740
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: fourth round of audits. Yeah, I don't think that's starting

741
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: to dry up pretty quick. So he was the fourth

742
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: d tackle from what I remember. Yeah, I had a

743
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: sweat ahead of Oko, all those guys, head of Jenkins,

744
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: I understand it. I mean, I mean he brings.

745
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: Pounds and he ran a five oh one forty and

746
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: there's production like there was production there.

747
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know this is extreme, but I've heard him

748
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: compare to stuff onto it mostly is like a eighteen

749
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: nineteen twe year old early in his career and coming

750
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: out of high school. But he's that style. And they

751
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: don't grow on trees.

752
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: They don't grow on trees.

753
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

754
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: Looking at those running back rankings, he had Benson since

755
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: there was only one, he has, Benson won, Jonathan Brooks two,

756
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd three, Blake Korham for Braylen Allen five.

757
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: They were my five. The Tennessee kid was a just

758
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: miss for me. More of a speed guy. Alan's interesting

759
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: he's really really lost her and he's super youns her,

760
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: he's super young.

761
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: Theme ran for a thousand yards at seventeen in the

762
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: Big Ten?

763
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: Did he really? What I was gonna say is he

764
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: has twenty hundred yard games and he just turned twenty.

765
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he was starting at Wisconsin as a seventeen

766
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: year old who didn't turn eighteen during their season.

767
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Parker and he's big and he's fast, and

768
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: he's hard to get on the ground. They don't throw

769
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: the backs much, but there are people think he has

770
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: a lot of untapped potential as a receiver. He just

771
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: hard thing to know.

772
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: If the Steelers were in the market for the style,

773
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: he would be the guy.

774
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: You haven't bentioned. I think that would be interested.

775
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: Without a doubt. Look at some of those other positions

776
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: that we didn't get too far deep into. Safety tight end,

777
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: tight end hit brock bos because the Yeah he's Jared

778
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Wiley too, Jatavian Sanders, Street Tanner McLaughlin four, Theo Johnson

779
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: five H.

780
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know more about McLaughlin, but what's

781
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: his face? Wiley had a really good combine. Theo Johnson's

782
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: done really well monster. He likes this Penn State seems

783
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: to do this, Like why does he have more catches?

784
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: I mean they they have all these athletes and all

785
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: these tight ends, and they don't. Yeah, he doesn't have

786
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: much production or oway or chop. Like they have some

787
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: specimens and but the production is always a question of those.

788
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Yes, the guard position was Fatanu Barton, a Cheetah, Haynes,

789
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: zach Zinter Cooper Bebee.

790
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I mentioned I did that mock today. I traded

791
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: down a couple spots and ended up with an extra fifth.

792
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: I took Ziner. I'm like, he can red shirt all

793
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: year long.

794
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: He might be ready by the time. It was a

795
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: fractured tibia.

796
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: And I don't think the Steelers have a guard need

797
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: at all. Right, I don't care. It's I get a

798
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: second first round player in the fifth and maybe he

799
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: waits a year. Yeah, all right, I had an extra pick,

800
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: you know, let's do it.

801
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: He's actually I did my interior linement. He was my sleeper.

802
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

803
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm like, he's gonna go somewhere in that

804
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: and he should go. Yeah, at the very least, he

805
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: should be one of the early picks in day two.

806
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a team like I don't know, the

807
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: Bengals or the Chiefs or that look like they're okay

808
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: at guard should just draft them and send him a

809
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: year when one of their guys is gonna be a

810
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: free agent after the years.

811
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's center, it's Powers Johnson, Frasier Tanner,

812
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: Border leaning now three.

813
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: Nah, that's some steam.

814
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: Cedric van Print four, Bolimmer five.

815
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Limmer was impressive too.

816
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

817
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: I can see Border Ladie or even Limmer over Van Pran.

818
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: Those defensive tackles after Mason Smith as Chris Jenkins.

819
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: Okay, oh that was the fourth of fifth. Yeah.

820
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: The linebackers, he is Cooper, Colson, Wilson, Cedric Gray, Jeremiah Trotter.

821
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: That seems like the five.

822
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

823
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who's six would be, but they seem

824
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: like the most logical five.

825
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: Cornerback we went through the safety we had no safeties

826
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: in the top fifty. He is Jaden Hicks, Tyler Nuban,

827
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: Cameron Kinchin's cole Bishop, Jevon Bullard.

828
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: I like that group. Yeah, I mean Bullard is a

829
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: big slot as well. Hicks moves around really really well

830
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: in his size for a while yeah, he's a real

831
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: solid player. It's a good group. Yeah yeah, I mean

832
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: I could see not on them being in the top fifty,

833
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: but I would love to get my hands on one

834
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: of those guys in the third, fourth round.

835
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.

836
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: You get a good value on a pretty good player.

837
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of them can place a lot too.

838
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: And I wonder how many of those guys get pushed

839
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: down because they're you know, in a normal year, would

840
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: Jayden Hicks or Tyler Tyler Nuban be at thirty five

841
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: because there are so many tackles and you know.

842
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those guys scream late first, early second almost

843
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: every year, and this year you might get a mid

844
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: second maybe, you know.

845
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: Just because there's so many guys got to take tackles.

846
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: I got ten corners.

847
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: Tackles will be taken before the Steelers make their second

848
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: round pick.

849
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: I was asked the exact same question, but with receivers

850
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: that too, that's gonna be a higher number. I mean,

851
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: because I think the tackles might dry up after those

852
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: seven or eight. They'll still get a suwer Mattiatia and

853
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: the Arizona dude I think will end up.

854
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: Going maybe by the time we're done with this, you know,

855
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: guy like Chris Jones made.

856
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna mention the other Washington kid, Sumers

857
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: something something something because every one thought he's a guard only,

858
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: but his combine was really kind to him too for

859
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: arm length movement. He might be a right tackle too.

860
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll go before, you know, mid fifties. Yeah,

861
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: but I could see a run of receivers, you know.

862
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course the top four will be long gone, but.

863
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: But then it'll start, it'll start back up. Yeah. Yeah,

864
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: they'll start back up in around twenty somewhere in the

865
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: mid twenties.

866
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: And just be a Carolina's first pick in the second round. Yeah,

867
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: and teams like that.

868
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like eight of the next fifteen picks or receivers.

869
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the Michigan kid, Mconkee. I mean there's a

870
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: lot of them to like, both from Texas and maybe

871
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: another Washington one. Yeah right, yeah, there's a lot of them.

872
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: They add up pretty quick, absolutely, but we're going to

873
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm

874
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Dale Lotlet you're listening to the drive here on Steelers

875
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. That was Field Yates Top fifty and then

876
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: his top top five at each position. We are also

877
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: doing those on Steelers dot Com. We basically Monday, Wednesday,

878
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Friday for about the next month and a half here.

879
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Speaker 1: Those coming out.

880
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: Just start pumping them out.

881
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: Just started today, and you know, we'll go back around

882
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: through them as we get more information on some of

883
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: these guys and maybe started adjusting some things here and there.

884
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: But they're fun. Yeah, you learn a little bit as

885
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: you're doing them too. Yeah, we're going to get to

886
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: a break. We'll be back with more on the drive

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Speaker 2: right after this.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the upcoming season, we were just chatting here

899
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: off the Earth. So the Bills today, listen to this

900
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: list of guys they released. Naim Hines knew that was coming.

901
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: Unfortunate. That's off the field accident, right.

902
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy, center, Mitch Morse, cornerback ter Davius White, safety

903
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, and defensive backs are on neil.

904
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean three of those guys are foundational Bills. I mean, yeah, White, Poyer,

905
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: the other safeties up for a free agency as well. Yeah,

906
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: Morris has been a really solid center for them. Dave

907
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: Davis is a free agent to be. They don't have much.

908
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: I thought they're roster minus Allen. You know, the non

909
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: quarterback roster for the Bills. It was good, not great

910
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: last year, and now it's going to be below average

911
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: or maybe good at best. And Allen's capable of doing

912
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: a lot of great things, but this would probably be

913
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: his worst supporting cast he's ever had.

914
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Dolphins are cutting guys left and right.

915
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: And the Jets might be the big winner here because

916
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots stink, and.

917
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: The Patriots flat outstink, and we shocked if they don't

918
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: stink next year, at least Miami and Buffalo are going

919
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: to be two of the teams. Maybe the two teams

920
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: hit hardest in this week or two. Yeah, I don't

921
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be able to go add much either,

922
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: Christin Wilkins and a couple offensive linemen, and Miami's lost

923
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: a lot.

924
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: The Detexans have resigned deck Or They've signed deck kicker

925
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: Carrier Fairbaan to a three year, fifteen point nine million

926
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: dollar contract.

927
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: It's a lot, but he's good and they won, and

928
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: you know that's the going right now. Yeah, trust is important.

929
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: The Seahawks released defensive tackle Brian Mohan.

930
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know much about him, but we they

931
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: released both their safe their safeties, Yester, we got back. Yeah,

932
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: since we were convened. I wonder what Diggs is well

933
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: asking on the open market.

934
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's thirty one.

935
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: I know he's thirty one, but yeah, he's he's the

936
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: better of the two. Yeah.

937
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: And then zach Ertz signing a one year deal with

938
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: Washington move up to five million dollars.

939
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: Okay, why would I don't know if that's what I'd

940
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 2: be doing right now.

941
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: But I get it because this isn't a great tight end.

942
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: They released Logan Thomas draft.

943
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: The draft to share at the tight end position is

944
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: not like it was last Now, and they're gonna take

945
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback at one. Yeah, and so he gives you.

946
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: We also saw Dalton Schultz yesterday.

947
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got.

948
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Tections, gave him, gave him twelve million a year, three years,

949
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: thirty six million.

950
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: I thought that was an awful lot. But there's something

951
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: to be said for just having a guy you trusted.

952
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 2: I think Ertz wants to be that guy. I would

953
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: imagine Washington looks at him as a locker room leader

954
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: or two. You know, But I don't know if that's

955
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: the kind of moves I've been making right now. Yeah.

956
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they got the money and they wanted

957
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: to jump on things here.

958
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: Houston has a lot of money, Washington has gobs of money.

959
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Kevin Patra on NFL dot Com some notable players

960
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: who could be underpriced and overpriced on the open market

961
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 1: starting next week.

962
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: I come a long list of overpriced.

963
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, players who could be underpriced. Is leading that list.

964
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: He has Bryce huff Eh, he might get more money

965
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: than people think.

966
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. I might have put him on the over list.

967
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have ten sacks last year. Guys

968
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: who had ten sacks last year, probably gonna get paid.

969
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: So, oh, he's gonna get paid heavy. And I just

970
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: think the new team might think he's a sixty snap

971
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: guy when he's really twenty five. I mean, he's just

972
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: he's Rob Bibble coming out of the pan. He don't

973
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: ask him to be a starter. Frankie Luvu he's saying

974
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: cheap or too he's gonna be he said he's gonna

975
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: be a bar underpriced. I don't see him being a bargain.

976
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: I think somebody needs to be over ten.

977
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

978
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: I like him a lot, but he's not for everyone.

979
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: You want to be a downhill blitzing linebacker. He's not

980
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: an old school thumper, but he's not Fred Warner in

981
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: covered No, you know.

982
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Jacobe Burssette, Oh, I love that one. Yeah, Durrance Armstrong, Yeah,

983
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think their edge rusher. Yeah, sixteen sacks

984
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: are passed two seasons. He probably gets paid somewhere.

985
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. We haven't talked about any of the edge guys

986
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 2: really because I don't think the Steelers will be heavily

987
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: in the market. I think they'll probably bring back Golden

988
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 2: or somebody like that. I guess that's a good call.

989
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 2: But when you said he had sixteen sacks. It was like, really, okay,

990
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: well then he should be on that list.

991
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny Moore, I think Kenny Moore's.

992
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe his age keeps his number down a little. Hey,

993
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: if the Steers signed him to a one or two years.

994
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: It was twenty nine in August.

995
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: He's not old.

996
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not ancient. No, and he's maybe he's a

997
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: good player. Might be the best slot corner in the league.

998
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're walking around in the conversation. Yeah, it's

999
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: a big banner him out front. He's one of their

1000
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: best players.

1001
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, I don't agree with that.

1002
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: I don't either. I think he's fine, but I think

1003
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: he's close to the end.

1004
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's twenty nine years old. He didn't run well

1005
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 1: coming into the league.

1006
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's popular around here and I

1007
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: get that, but I think people look at him like, oh,

1008
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: he's been blocked all these years by those two. No,

1009
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: I think he's a three. Yeah what he is?

1010
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? And then the last one on the could be

1011
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: underpriced is Jeremy Chin. We talked a lot about him.

1012
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to roll with Dice on a guy

1013
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: like that.

1014
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: Twenty six year old former first round draft pick.

1015
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: That. Yeah, he's got a lot of talent. He's had

1016
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: some flashes in the league. I mean, I wouldn't say

1017
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: he's a boss. He just is gonna find a right

1018
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: role for him.

1019
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: Could be overpriced. Leading that list is Baker Mayfield.

1020
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna make more.

1021
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: Money than like I've seen people, aren't the Steelers talking

1022
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: about signing Baker Mayfield. Baker, You're gonna pay for Baker

1023
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: Mayfield thirty five million dollars?

1024
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: That's about say from what I've heard. They just resigned

1025
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: Evans and they franchised Winfield. They have some big things

1026
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: going on in Tampa and he's next. Obviously they're trying

1027
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: to get done before the deadline here, and I guess

1028
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: they went to him with here's the Geno Smith contract,

1029
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: you know, and he goes, I'm first overall pick.

1030
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: I want Daniel Jones.

1031
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: I want at least did you notice the cap just

1032
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: went up a bazillion dollars?

1033
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: I want?

1034
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's what he's gonna ask for and

1035
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: he's gonna end up well over thirty No, thanks, Marquise Brown, Hmmm,

1036
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: I think you might get him in a reasonable deal.

1037
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: I think I think he's overrated. I think he's a

1038
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: two I think he's a one trick pony that Yeah,

1039
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: you know again there, I.

1040
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: Think that's what he'll get paid as. But like I'd

1041
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: rather of him than Gabe Davis.

1042
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: Here's the problem though, in this draft we just talked

1043
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: about how deep the receiver class.

1044
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: I think you might get him cheap, but I.

1045
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: Think the top guys are going to still get paid.

1046
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: Will the Pittman's and Evans, Yeah, those guys.

1047
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: And maybe Marquise Brown falls into that.

1048
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: If he does, then he's definitely overpaid. Yeah, but if

1049
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: he's in the next tier, that's noticeably less. I'm not

1050
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: saying that he's I don't think he's a fit for

1051
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: the Steelers, but I think he could be decent. Yeah,

1052
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: depends what he ends up making.

1053
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, I agree with that. Somebody, somebody's gonna pay

1054
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: him a lot of money.

1055
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna get the Edmonds deal last year.

1056
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: He's Robin.

1057
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's that guy. I'd be wary

1058
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: if I'm Seattle. I bet they're gonna jump all.

1059
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: Over Oh I think they will too. Uh, Derrick Henry,

1060
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: what do you think he makes so I bet he

1061
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: gets five maybe, I bet he signs the deals for

1062
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: like two years, ten million dollars.

1063
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, if I were him, Mike, yeah, make you more

1064
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: than I was gonna think the numbers even higher, not

1065
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: that he didn't get, but you don't want to.

1066
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: You don't pay for what he's done because he didn't

1067
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: do it for you.

1068
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: He was good last year, though it was, and I

1069
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna be done two years ago. I

1070
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: don't know. If I were him, I would go take less,

1071
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: which is easy for me to say, it's not my money,

1072
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: and really play for a contender. Go play for Dallas,

1073
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: go play for Baltimore.

1074
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: Fifteen over fifteen hundred carries the last five years.

1075
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I thought he'd be shut down two

1076
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: years ago. It still doesn't happen.

1077
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, Yeah, Chase Young is the last game.

1078
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: He's the last one. Yeah. I think he's David Clowney. Yeah.

1079
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be a mercenary year to year

1080
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: trade deadline guy.

1081
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: That he's twenty four, he'll be on these lists. Everybody

1082
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: will sign the one year deal and great name he.

1083
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: Could have been. Yeah, early injury didn't help him, never

1084
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: really refined himself much as a pass rusher. He won

1085
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: with talented Ohio state does most of these guys do,

1086
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: and never took it to the next level. I'm not

1087
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: saying he's not a hard worker, but he is. Doesn't

1088
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: look like he's busting his butt to be the best

1089
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: he could be.

1090
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, But that is the list off.

1091
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Of about twenty names over priced. Yeah yeah, but.

1092
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: That's Kevin Patras. Thirteen guys on that one. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to a break. That's going to do it for

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Speaker 1: our number one of the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Matt and Now will be back with our number two

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Speaker 1: right after this