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Speaker 2: All right, just how important is this wind? We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that in just about a minute, but right now

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Speaker 2: it's time to say good morning everybody. Yes, it's that time.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Freman,

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Speaker 2: and you know what. We're broadcasting live from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. And away we go, Bucky. How are you,

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Speaker 2: my partner and friend, the man of the hour, Bucky Brooks?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: My great Andy? Can't complain? Is a great Sunday? Looking

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Speaker 3: forward to chatting.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little too loud to tell me. I'll turn

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Speaker 2: it down a little bit more hyped up. Every time

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Speaker 2: I hear your name, I go crazy.

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Speaker 3: No, no, then bring the energy, and then I bring the energy.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I try. Okay, this is you know. It's funny because

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Speaker 2: on radio they say bring energy. When I did this

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Speaker 2: in school, the teachers would put me in the corner.

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Speaker 2: I mean they send me to the principal's office. I

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Speaker 2: don't get it. Now, I'm getting paid to go crazy.

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Speaker 2: In school, I got in trouble. My mom and dad

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Speaker 2: were up opost every day. Really, it really was that way.

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Speaker 2: It was that way for me. But we move on.

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Speaker 2: I need to. Can I just blow off some steam

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Speaker 2: a little bit about the NBA playoffs. I want to

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Speaker 2: make it known right here and now. I love the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I did some work when I was in college with

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Speaker 2: the New York Knicks and some work with the PR

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Speaker 2: guys over there that I guess I called it an

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Speaker 2: internship now, but I was in there stuff and envelopes.

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Speaker 2: I did that. I helped them every now and again.

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Speaker 2: But and I always wanted to work in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: It didn't work out that way. Okay, But as far

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Speaker 2: as the players are concerned, there's a couple of problems

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Speaker 2: that I have, and I want to get him off

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Speaker 2: my chest. Number one, Adam Silva never wrote me back

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Speaker 2: when I told him what he needs to do on

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Speaker 2: Christmas Day. Maybe he never got the mail. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But here's the problem. The problem may not only be

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Speaker 2: the NBA, and maybe that stupid four letter network, which

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention the letters. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: I watched the game on TV the other night, no

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Speaker 2: national anthem. They played it, I'm sure in Oklahoma City

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Speaker 2: and they didn't have it on TV. What American sport

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Speaker 2: does not show the national anthem. Shame on you for

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Speaker 2: a letter network? Okay? And there were no lineups either

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Speaker 2: on TV. Okay. Next, the NCAA has Final four written

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Speaker 2: all over the court, the logo whatever it is? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Where was the finals on the court? And you know what,

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Speaker 2: here's the deal in the National Hockey League, buck, they're

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Speaker 2: playing for the Stanley Cup. There's anybody really if you

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Speaker 2: poll ten people, do you know what they're playing for?

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Speaker 2: In the NBA, it's the O'Brien Trophy. Could they say

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Speaker 2: we're playing for the O'Brien trophy, the Larry O'Brien, former

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Speaker 2: commissioner of the league. Can they say that the branding

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Speaker 2: of the NBA stinks? I don't get it. And you

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Speaker 2: know what, here's another thing that I did way back

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Speaker 2: Do you know who founded who invented the NBA All

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Speaker 2: Star Team? A longtime friend, May he rest in peace,

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Speaker 2: mister Haskell Cone. I did some work for him when

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Speaker 2: I was in college. He was the first pr guy

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Speaker 2: of the NBA, and in nineteen fifty four he formulated

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Speaker 2: he made the old Star game. He created it nineteen

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Speaker 2: a trophy, the Haskell Cone, and then the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: So these are some of the things I had to

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Speaker 2: get off my chest. You could talk about the game

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Speaker 2: if you want. These other things bothered me. I don't

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Speaker 4: Uh, I would say one of my bothered by presentation wise, Uh,

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Speaker 4: I just think it doesn't have the normal buzzs. I

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Speaker 4: small market effect, right, Indiana and Oklahoma City aren't big markets,

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Speaker 4: but there's still enough buzz about it that place is electric.

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Speaker 3: Uh, We're okay see plays if you've been to a home.

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Speaker 4: Game, if you watched it, if you watched it even

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Speaker 4: it's fast if you wanna lean into that. So maybe

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Speaker 4: That could kind of enhance the experience in terms of

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Speaker 3: I I I never really cared about like all of like.

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Speaker 4: The final stuff splashed uh all on the floor. But

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Speaker 4: I do think you can make it special with some

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Speaker 4: I think what you want is you want the fan

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Speaker 3: Right And even though you can.

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Speaker 4: Say, a these are the finals, it has to feel

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Speaker 2: This is their big event, this is their game, this

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Speaker 2: is their super Bowl, you know. And again you mentioned

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Speaker 2: small markets. When you turn the TV on, you have

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Speaker 2: no idea. You don't know this Oklahoma City or LA

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. They were packed. It was great. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but I did say that, how important does this win?

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Speaker 2: Look the Pacers win the first game before Oklahoma City,

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Speaker 2: I gotta believe this series. I'm winning this series as

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Speaker 2: last three years, sixty eight wins this year, fifty seven

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Speaker 2: they're developing into a team. They lose this series, they'll

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Speaker 2: be just another also ran team. They need to win

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Speaker 3: And now I would never go to the bus.

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Speaker 4: I think they want to win it because it's there

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Speaker 4: to be one and you just don't know how many

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Speaker 4: can't just run it back and say, oh man, we'll

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Speaker 4: get them next year. When you have the opportunity, you

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Speaker 4: have to cash out. You have to make sure that

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Speaker 4: those things. But I wouldn't consider the season of us

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Speaker 4: and if you've done that, then you've done a great

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Speaker 4: job of team building and that stuff, because the reality

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Speaker 4: it takes some luck, it takes some fate, it takes

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Speaker 3: Align for you to be able to walk away to champion.

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Speaker 4: And so I think it's been a very successful year

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Speaker 3: Of whether they wanted or not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I hear what you're saying. I'm listening.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening.

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Speaker 2: I don't totally agree, but I hear what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: and you make a lot of sense. It does take luck,

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Speaker 2: can't go that far. I can't do that, and I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you why. Sixty eight wins is a hell of

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Speaker 2: maybe the league is not that strong? I mean that's

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Speaker 2: But other than that, you know, you look at the

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Speaker 2: So you had these teams that basically you knew going

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Speaker 3: Look, I think the league is always strong. I think

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Speaker 4: Notably weaker than the talent brokers in the West, but

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Speaker 4: it's still pretty strong. Okay, se had the best record

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Speaker 3: They deserve their flowers for doing that.

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Speaker 4: The air team that's nine deep and thinking about all

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Speaker 4: SCA wins the MVP.

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Speaker 3: When I think superpower.

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Speaker 4: I think of teams that have been assembled through free

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Speaker 2: All right, media people right now, and they're watching the game,

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Speaker 2: and Halla Burton again goes that winning shot. They win

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Speaker 2: in the two point three seconds in the game the

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Speaker 2: other night, win eleven, win ten. And I'm hearing now,

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Speaker 2: I'm media accounts and talk radio that Halla Burton's a superstar.

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Speaker 2: You know, I hear that. I cringe. I laughed. So

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Speaker 2: I ask you, you played the game, you played with

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Speaker 2: guys in the National Football League that perhaps were considered superstars.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you now, A, is he a superstar?

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Speaker 2: And more than that, B what the hell is a superstar?

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Speaker 2: I no longer know what a superstar is. I think

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Speaker 2: Lebron James is a superstar. I can't consider Halla Barton

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Speaker 2: work has been great thus far, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's a superstar. So tell me what's a superstar. Who's

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Speaker 2: a superstar?

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Speaker 4: I would still a superstar, would be a trans sendent, talent,

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Speaker 4: is irreplaceable in the landscape of the top ten. So

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Speaker 4: the superstars to me would be Iannis Joker. I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: like Lebron still has superstar power. Steph Curry still is

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Speaker 3: So, for instance, for me, I wouldn't consider Joel.

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Speaker 4: And b to be a superstar even though he's won

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that now. Also, I'm hearing that

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Speaker 4: And the reason why I would point him being a

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Speaker 4: When I look at Carlisle, the reason Carlisle has been

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Speaker 4: Rick Carlile's adaptability has made them special and has put

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Now, now here's the situation. I

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Speaker 2: I hate to use that term, but they just don't die.

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Speaker 2: they play it that way? Do they know? Is it

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Speaker 4: They played nine to ten people in their rotation.

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Speaker 3: They get after it.

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Speaker 4: it's hard, sorry not to like how they get down.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: The community really them up.

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Speaker 3: But the way that you have to do it now

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Speaker 2: Who do you like?

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Speaker 2: Who do you like? To win this series? Everybody was

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Speaker 3: No, no, I did.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with okay See to win it because

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Speaker 3: Able to pull it off, and they didn't.

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Speaker 4: They had a million turnovers today forced that should have

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, more games are lost than one

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Speaker 4: You played for the Packers, Yeah, everyone knows whether you're

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Speaker 4: They know, they have the research out, they've gone through

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a real good explanation here. We're gonna tell

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Speaker 2: And we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and

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Speaker 2: I way we go because uh, we're gonna have this

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Speaker 2: Bucky with Brianna in about maybe ten twelve minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: But the big news, I guess earlier in the week

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Speaker 2: are shocking news in the NBA with Tom Thibodeau after

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Speaker 2: five years, was shown the door as coach of the

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Speaker 2: New York Knicks, taking at the Eastern Finals for the

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Speaker 2: first time in twenty five years. How shocking is that.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen things like that playing in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League. And you know what does that do

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Speaker 2: to the morale of a ball club. Bes I'm sure

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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys liked him and were used

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Speaker 2: to him, and now his change.

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Speaker 4: Shocked, really shocked, because you led a team that no

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Speaker 4: one really regarded as like one of those teams the

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Speaker 4: title contender to the conference finals and look, man, you're

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Speaker 4: a few lucky breaks away from being a team that

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Speaker 4: participates in the finals.

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Speaker 3: Didn't go their way, so you're on the outside looking in.

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Speaker 4: But Tom Thibodeau, man, I saw playoff appearances in four

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Speaker 4: the last five years, back to back fifty win seasons, first.

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Speaker 3: Time they've done this since the nineties.

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Speaker 4: The team is relevant, the gardener is alive, the buzz

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Speaker 4: is always there. But here's what happens, and it's unfortunate

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Speaker 4: for Tom Thibodeau. Sometimes the worst thing that can happen

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Speaker 4: is when you're bogged down by expectations going into the

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Speaker 4: conference finals. Because the media world, because everyone was sleeping

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Speaker 4: on or slept on the Indianapolis Pacers.

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Speaker 3: Many believed that the Knicks We're going to waltz into

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Speaker 3: the finals.

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Speaker 4: And when that didn't happen, you begin to look for

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Speaker 4: answers for why this team lost or they didn't win,

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Speaker 4: or however you want to phrase it. And I'll say this,

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Speaker 4: Tom Thibadeau got the backlash because people were worried and

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Speaker 4: they talked about the minus rotations early in the regular season,

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Speaker 4: which doesn't guarantee that those guys were going to be

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Speaker 4: able to play at a high level or play poorly

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Speaker 4: in the.

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Speaker 3: Postseason.

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Speaker 4: But I noticed that the next team, they play so much,

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Speaker 4: but they don't have a lot of injuries. They kind

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Speaker 4: of play through those things. They have a level of

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Speaker 4: toughness that they displayed because he's been on them, and

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Speaker 4: this is a team that most teams don't like to

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Speaker 4: face because how rugged and rough they are.

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Speaker 3: I thought he did a great job. I thought he

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Speaker 3: got on the short end of the stick.

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Speaker 4: And it's gonna be hard for it to find a

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Speaker 4: much better coach than the one that they let go

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Speaker 4: in Tom Tibadeau.

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Speaker 2: I certainly agree with that, and rather than kind of

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Speaker 2: tugg on who may be coaching what happened. It's great

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Speaker 2: to have you here because you played the game. And

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Speaker 2: obviously I don't want to make a comparison in the

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Speaker 2: NFL and the NBA, but have you been on a

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Speaker 2: ball club that a coach was let go, and what

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Speaker 2: is the reaction to players, Because I'm sure some players

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Speaker 2: in that locker room say, wow, I love this guy.

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Speaker 2: He took care of me. And some of the other

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Speaker 2: players happy to see him go because maybe they felt

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Speaker 2: they weren't given a chance with that coach, and with

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Speaker 2: a new guy coming in, they get a clean slate.

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Speaker 4: I've been on struggling teams and you know that the

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Speaker 4: coach is in danger, and the thing that you worry

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Speaker 4: about is like, okay with the devil that you know

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Speaker 4: right when you have the current coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: You've learned the things that you have to navigate to

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Speaker 3: be around.

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Speaker 4: When you're bringing a new coaching staff who's unrelated to

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Speaker 4: you or whatever, it can be scary unless is really

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Speaker 4: a Mary Bays, a merit based situation where they respect

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Speaker 4: your work, ethic and character and all that, and they're

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Speaker 4: going to give you the chance because you've earned a chance.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a scary deal. The morale is low,

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Speaker 4: people don't truly believe and all of the anonymous sources

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Speaker 4: come out and discuss why the team was dysfunctional, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: et cetera.

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Speaker 3: A lot of it is really part of the process.

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Speaker 3: But man, the process sucks.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, no doubt about that. You know one of the

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Speaker 2: media reports and obviously you say, you can't believe. I

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Speaker 2: don't believe this. One said one of them media reports

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Speaker 2: that Tibeau was let go because of the way he

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Speaker 2: used Jalen Brunson and has failed to make adjustments. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Jalen have gone through the roof on the Tiberdeau.

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing that really makes me mad about

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Speaker 4: him not making adjustments or the people on the outside

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Speaker 4: seeing he didn't make adjustments. You think a coach who's

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Speaker 4: been in the league as long as time Thibodeau has

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Speaker 4: been in the league, who has earned the respect of

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Speaker 4: his peers in the league as a strategist, a tactician,

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Speaker 4: particularly on defense, for us to say that, oh, he

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Speaker 4: didn't make any adjustments, it's disrespectful to him. Now I

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00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: can say, like, maybe those adjustments didn't work. It took

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Speaker 4: him a while to find the right code to unlock

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Speaker 4: the code in the formula, But in most situations he's

578
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Speaker 4: always found a way to give his team a chance

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Speaker 4: to win, not that they win, but a chance to win.

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Speaker 4: To me, all of this is like just a disrespectful

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Speaker 4: campaign to smear someone who's a really.

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Speaker 2: Good coach, no doubt about that. Now as far as

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Speaker 2: Jalen Bruns is concerned, he averaged twenty six points a game,

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Speaker 2: seven assists of games, and over eighteen postseason games, he

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Speaker 2: averaged thirty seven minutes on with thirty eight minutes of games.

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Speaker 2: And then again one of the I guess media reports

587
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Speaker 2: say that he used these guys to such an extent,

588
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Speaker 2: didn't rest them enough, he didn't have the rotation roll,

589
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Speaker 2: and come on, you know, the bottom line is winning,

590
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Speaker 2: and he won. I mean, he took the heat to

591
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Speaker 2: heights that they never dreamt to go to. But now

592
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Speaker 2: they talk about, you know, new coaches, okay, and the

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Speaker 2: first thing they said was Rick Patino. Rick Patino said immediately,

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Speaker 2: I'm not coaching. I'm not coaching in the NBA. He

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Speaker 2: coached the Knicks before, and then they had the former

596
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Speaker 2: coach Jay Wright at Villanova. He'd be out of his

597
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Speaker 2: mind to come back, so he said no. But now

598
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Speaker 2: they're corners. They're trying to get permission to get the

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Speaker 2: coach who is a Jason Kidd, who of death and

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Speaker 2: the reason being and this, I mean, you got to

601
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Speaker 2: put two and two together. Jason Kidd coached Giannis in

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee with the Bucks. I think the Knicks would love

603
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Speaker 2: to get Yannis. Giannis would love to get out of Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: So you figure, if you hire Jason Kidd, there's a

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Speaker 2: real good opportunity. Maybe they could lure Jannis to come

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Speaker 2: to play for the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, New York is the.

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Speaker 4: Illusional, Like just just what we think about when it

609
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Speaker 4: comes to New York and how New York is like, oh,

610
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Speaker 4: everyone wants to come and play on that major stage.

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Speaker 4: When they just give you a sign of organizational instability

612
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Speaker 4: because they fired a coach who was a really good coach,

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Speaker 4: who was very well respected and liked in those things.

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Speaker 3: To me, that is bananas to think about.

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Speaker 4: What I will say is this when it comes to

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Speaker 4: the next and the guys that they're they're entertaining right

617
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Speaker 4: because Jason Kidd was one, I mean Udoka from Houston

618
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: is another U and then they throw out some superstar candidates.

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Speaker 3: This job is a hard job. Because Tom Thibodeau is.

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Speaker 4: Look man, he will be appreciated more for the job

621
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Speaker 4: that he's done starting next year because they'd be oh,

622
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Speaker 4: maybe we weren't really as good as we thought when

623
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Speaker 4: we put all those expectations on him. But I think

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Speaker 4: the thing the coach that they find, the one that

625
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Speaker 4: they end up going with and believing he better understand

626
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Speaker 4: Nick's culture, Nick's history, the fan base, the fandom, all

627
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: that other stuff, like how they get down because this

628
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: is a very difficult job because they're more critics now

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Speaker 4: than ever.

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Speaker 3: And if you don't have thick skin in New York,

631
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Speaker 3: you have no shot.

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Speaker 2: You know you shot, you're right, And you mentioned something

633
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Speaker 2: very interesting. I want to play on that for a second.

634
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Speaker 2: You talk about this stage of coming to let many

635
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: players think they want to play in that big stage.

636
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: You know, maybe it would help you As far as endorsements,

637
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I will tell you this much.

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Speaker 2: If I'm a player, I think I'd rather play in

639
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: the hindelands. I think I'd rather play in Indianapolis, Milwaukee,

640
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Speaker 2: smaller markets, maybe Utah. Because all I know is this.

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Speaker 2: If you pick up some of those tabloids in New

642
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: York City, they're writing about everything, but the way you

643
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Speaker 2: play basketball, where you live, where you go at night,

644
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Speaker 2: who you date, you know, what restaurant you're at. I

645
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: don't need that I don't want that, you know, Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: You know, I pick up the Indianapolis Star newspaper every

647
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Speaker 2: now and again. I don't read that social stuff about athletes.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's not interesting, but if I'm

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Speaker 2: the athlete, I don't want them writing about me about that. Really,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

652
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's not ideal.

653
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: Is that a ideal situation when we think of it?

654
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: But look, okay, So for all the negatives that I

655
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 4: put out there about New York in the main stage,

656
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: there's nothing like being the leader of a blue blood franchise,

657
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: being the leader of a team that has a lot

658
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: of pride and tradition in those things. And we can

659
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: talk about the nixt tradition and how they haveone I

660
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: tied us sister early seventies, but there is something that comes.

661
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: Along with when the Knicks roll out.

662
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: Particularly MSG, that energy is everything, and if you can

663
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: lose yourself in that and ignore the scuttle butt around

664
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: the program, it works. But let me say this about

665
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: Tom Tipbodau. And I'm gonna say this like as a

666
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: high school coach, and I will say this because what

667
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 4: he did I really admire despite all the barbs and

668
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: the criticism that came his way about the rotation, the

669
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: offensive style, that this and that Tom Thibodeau went out

670
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: doing it his way, and for him to go out

671
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: doing it his way just speaks volumes about his conviction

672
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: in his approach, his confidence in terms of the way

673
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: that he goes about doing things with his team, and

674
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: even though it didn't work out for him in New York,

675
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: in terms of like being able to stay on to

676
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: his job. I think there are a ton of coaches,

677
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: there are a ton of basketball people that respect him

678
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: for the way that he gets down like I have

679
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: the utmost respect for him saying no, no, no, no,

680
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: this is what I believe in. I'm riding it out

681
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: instead of being a tree in the wind. It always

682
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: switches in acquiesces to the needs of people who don't

683
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: really know what they're talking about.

684
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: Hass off the time.

685
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Tibodeau, even though it didn't work out for him here,

686
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: it's certainly gonna be in. There're gonna be opportunities for

687
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: him to be another coach and instrument and orchestrate another turnaround.

688
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Well said, I will say this. You know, one of

689
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: the critics that we're running about Tibeau saying that Jalen

690
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: Brunson was playing twenty minutes. Jalen Brunson may have been

691
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: the only knit that stood up and spoke positively and

692
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: upset and supported Timberdau when he left. That's number one.

693
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: Number two. I give Timberdeau a lot of credit because

694
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: when he left, he left, and no one knows where

695
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: he's at. A lot of times these coaches have last

696
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: minute comments. They'll drop a couple of barbs and say

697
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done this. I mean sorry, No, he

698
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: was out the door, and like you haven't heard from

699
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: him since. I like that. He kept it quiet and

700
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: that's what he is, and he really he's that way

701
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: throughout the season. I mean, I've seen him on postgame interviews.

702
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: He doesn't say much. He's kind of like the Bill

703
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: Belichick of basketball in a sense. He really is. As

704
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: far as conferences mean.

705
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, no, I mean I get you what

706
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: you're saying. Yeah, he hasn't said a lot, but that's

707
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: not really his demeanor or whatever.

708
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 3: I do remember.

709
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: I think when he was out for a while, maybe

710
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: in between the Minnesota and New York siting, he did

711
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: a little TV. That's not really his laying in terms

712
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: of personality.

713
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: But what I will say is so many people love

714
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: and respect his coaching mind.

715
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Speaker 4: And when you really look at this team, if you

716
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: look at this team like this team doesn't have the

717
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: look and feel of a championship team, but he made

718
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: us believe that they had that capability by how hard

719
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: they played, how they they got after it, they got

720
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: up in people's shirts and those things. A lot of

721
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 4: respect for him, sad, but I think he'd better things

722
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: on the horizon for Tom Tiberdeaux, right.

723
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: And it hurt me because the team ended on such

724
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: a high note, accomplishing that no one would think they

725
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: would do, going to the Eastern Finals. Yeah, they lost it, Okay,

726
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: I get it, but they never no one thought they'd

727
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: even get that far, and they did. And they dropped

728
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: the bomb after they went that far, you know, rather

729
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: than celebrating to say next year, I'm going to go

730
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: to the next level even further. No, they get rid

731
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: of him, They chop his head off. I thought it

732
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: was crazy, I really do. So we'll see what happens.

733
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: I feel bad. I always liked Tom Thibodeau when he

734
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: was coaching Chicago. I always thought he was a defensive guy,

735
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: a good defensive coach and a very physical coaching and

736
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: the next played that way his stuff. How difficult is

737
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: it going to be for a new coach to come

738
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: in and tell these same players to play a different style.

739
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: That's going to be difficult on any level.

740
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.

741
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 4: It will be difficult, but it doesn't mean it's impossible.

742
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: And here's what happens. Right, So the NBA is a

743
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: copycat league, just like all these other sports. People are

744
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: now looking at okay see, but really Indiana and looking

745
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: at their style of play and how it's disruptive. So

746
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 4: what Indiana is doing, ironically, it's funny you brought up

747
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 4: Rick Patino early. Indiana's doing what Rick Portino wanted to

748
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: do way back in the day with Mark Jackson Patrick

749
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: Ewing when he was pressing all the time and picking

750
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: people up almost for court and people say, you can't

751
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 4: do that for a full season because you'll wear the

752
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: players out. But here we are in the finals and

753
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the Indiana paces do that, picking up people,

754
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 4: challenging every dribble to force.

755
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: People out of their rhythm.

756
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: Because remember in the na A twenty four second shot,

757
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: Like you have eight seconds to get it over to court.

758
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 4: If you play them right, man, You've now cut down

759
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: the time so when they do get it over the court,

760
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 4: they only have seventeen seconds to get into their flow

761
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: of the offense, which leads to a quick shot of

762
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: bad shot. That's what the Pacers are doing. The Knicks

763
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: fan base wants them to play like that, but they've

764
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 4: done that before. Rick Bertino, I just don't know if

765
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: they have the personnel to be able to get up

766
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: and down and do that, nor do they have the

767
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 4: defense that can sustain and support that kind of offense.

768
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: Don't nub go all right, We'll we'll see what happens,

769
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: all right. Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday, Foxpot's

770
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: ready now. Only one man, one man on God's Green Earth,

771
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: can handle this pressure. As Bucky is next. All right,

772
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: as Bucky Time right now on Fox Sports Radio, and

773
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 2: it's about ten minutes before the top of the hour.

774
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Fermore Alive from the Fox

775
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios and today Brianna taking away for as Bucky.

776
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Speaker 7: Alrighty guys, so Mr specifically Bucky.

777
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 8: For your first question, do you see Shador Sanders eventually

778
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 8: becoming a starting quarterback for the Browns this season?

779
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 7: And if so, why, yeah.

780
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 4: Look, I think he'll eventually have an opportunity to start.

781
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: I don't think it'd be in the first half of

782
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 4: the season, but we've seen every year man most teams

783
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: end up playing two, sometimes three quarterbacks. When you look

784
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 4: at this situation where it's Joe Flack, O'kinny Pickett, even

785
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel, it just.

786
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: Appears that he is going to get a chance.

787
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: And OCA workouts don't mean anything at this juncture, but

788
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 4: he certainly hasn't looked out.

789
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 3: Of place regardless of the situation.

790
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: He's being able to kind of show that he can

791
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: flash a little bit of the ability that made some

792
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: of us, including me, view him as a first round pick.

793
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: I think you'll get his chance, but I think it'd

794
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: be a slow cook.

795
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: It won't be a fast thing.

796
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 4: And I think it'd be after eight or nine games,

797
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: maybe ten or twelve games before.

798
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: He gets a shot.

799
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 8: All righty, So your first pick if you were a

800
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 8: basketball GM and you had a choice between Sga or

801
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 8: Tyrese Haliburn, who would you choose and who would be

802
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 8: your coach.

803
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 4: I would still pick SGA because SGA is the MVP

804
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 4: candidate and he's a bucket getter.

805
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: He can get it a few different ways in terms

806
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 3: of coaching.

807
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie like I'm partial to Eric, just

808
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 4: partial to spro Yes, s Postra, Yeah, I'm partial to him.

809
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: I think he's so good at what he does that

810
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 4: I would lean towards him being the coach of any

811
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 4: squad that I have.

812
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 8: Alrighty, So Derek Carr left thirty million dollars on the

813
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 8: table when he retired from the NFL.

814
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 7: Does he make a return in the future and come back.

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00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: No, it's over.

816
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: But I wouldn't have left the thirty million dollars on

817
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: the table. I would not have left to thirty million

818
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: dollars on the table.

819
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 3: But I give hi.

820
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Speaker 4: Nah for being a man of integrity and knowing that

821
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 4: he can't do it. But look the injury that he suffered,

822
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: he was gonna have a tough time coming back from.

823
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: I respect him. I respect him going out.

824
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 4: Leaving him money on the table, taking the partying gift

825
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 4: from the Saints, which is about ten million dollars. But

826
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Speaker 4: the last time I was in math class, thirty means

827
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: a lot more than ten million. I would have got

828
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: my thirty million dollars before I walked out.

829
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Speaker 7: As a Saints fan. I was pretty happy that he's gone.

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00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: So wow, no love.

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Speaker 2: You know what, we don't need any editorial comments a question.

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00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson came out speaking about leadership within the locker

833
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 8: room this week, and Joe Flacco also made some huge

834
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 8: comments last week about being a mentor. Who do you

835
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 8: think is going to make a bigger impact on the

836
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 8: younger players this season?

837
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 3: Lucky, I would say the bigger impact would be Russell Wilson.

838
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 4: We can say a bunch of different things about Russell Wilson,

839
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 4: and for some reason, people don't like Russell Wilson, even

840
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: though really he's been a model citizen when it comes

841
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: to quarterback play, the way he operates.

842
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: In those things.

843
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: I think for Jackson Dart, the young players to be

844
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: able to see a professional and how he works in

845
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: New York. Look, I think it's going to be impactful.

846
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't know how many games they'll win, but defensively

847
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 4: they should be good enough to keep scores tight, and

848
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 4: he still is good enough for them to win if

849
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 4: everything is.

850
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 3: Right around him. I think he'll have a great impact.

851
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: He'll set the table and set the tone for Jackson

852
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: Dart to go on and have a solid career in

853
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: New York.

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00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 8: All right, so you guys are talking about superstars and sports.

855
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 8: Can you name one in the NFL, the NBA, and

856
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 8: the MLB and state your case with whatever time?

857
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: Oh?

858
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, show here. Tani is easy in baseball,

859
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: two way star that can do anything.

860
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: H NBA.

861
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: I think Giannis is a superstar, just how he's come up,

862
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: how he dominates the game, has done it in a

863
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: small market, and then in the NFL that's a little harder.

864
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: But I would say justin Jefferson being a star, just

865
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: the way he captivates you. Not only would his dominant performance,

866
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: but the flair for the dramatic awesome.

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Speaker 2: See we did it. How do you like that?

868
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

869
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: It's okay? What do you think Bush?

870
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: Really? Really good job, really good job. I did it.

871
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, good job, thank you very much. Good job

872
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: for the first time. Not bad at all. All Right,

873
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: now you could call them the Magnificent seven. And Bucky

874
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: Brooks has him more on Fox Sports Sunday coming up

875
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: here next.

876
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports radio radio.

877
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: Okay, they're between good and bad, young and old, and

878
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: they're all yours. In just about a minute. Good morning, everybody.

879
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's

880
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman.

881
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 5: You know what.

882
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And

883
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: of course he's the man, the one, the only. He

884
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: played football in the NFL, he played football in college.

885
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: He writes for NFL dot Com. He's on TV, he's

886
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: on radio, he's all over the place. He's and he's

887
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: a scout in the National Football League working for Jacksonville.

888
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: He does it all, and he spends time with you

889
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: on Sundays right here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck,

890
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: how are you man?

891
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm great, man, can't complain life is good. How are you?

892
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. But I wanted to set you up

893
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: like that, make you feel good, because I got an

894
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: issue with you right now. We talked about the Pacers

895
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: and tyres HELLI Burton and saying that he's a superstar.

896
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: Not we did, but others in the media have said

897
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: he's a superstar. And I heard Brionna asking you questions

898
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: and ask Bucky about the superstars and sports, all right,

899
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: and you mentioned baseball, And I don't understand why Aaron

900
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: Judge does not get the accolades that he deserves. I

901
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: think he's a superstar, I really do.

902
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: I know.

903
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: I know you want with the Dodgers. I know you

904
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: want with the Dodgers. You're a Dodger guy. But I

905
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: can't believe that Aaron Judge, playing on that big stage

906
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: in New York does not get the accolades that he deserves.

907
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: He wants by three ninety seven. He is a superstar, period.

908
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: Don't you agree on that?

909
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he is.

910
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 4: But I think the reason why he doesn't get it,

911
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: I think party being a superstar is the pizzazz or

912
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: the flair that also surrounds your game, Like he has

913
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 4: home runs and does his thing, but I don't think

914
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 4: there's anything exciting about like his approach or how he.

915
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: Plays boring a little bit. You're right, he's boring, yeah.

916
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: I mean so whereas with show, Hey, you know you

917
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: talk about just a flair, like even when he was

918
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: hitting the leadoff home runs. A couple of weeks ago,

919
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: he had back to back leadoff home runs for the

920
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: Dodgers it's.

921
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 3: Just the way in which he's able to do it,

922
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: and then.

923
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: For him as he's making his way back to the

924
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: pitching mound to be able to kind of close it

925
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: out and do things in that regard, like there has

926
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: to be like almost like this competitive arrogance that a

927
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: superstar displays that either makes you love him or hate him,

928
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: but it always makes you want to tune in.

929
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: I don't think you get.

930
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: I don't think Aaron Judge stirs any emotional feelings either way.

931
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: Whenever you watch him play, you're like, Okay, Aaron jebs

932
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: at the bat, all right, that's cool.

933
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: You know, like nothing right where it's like musty TV.

934
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: But in that vein when you picked Justin Jefferson in

935
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: the NFL and Giannis in the NBA, it's the same

936
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: with those guys. I don't think they do anything for

937
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: me as well. I mean the only time we heard

938
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: Giannis say anything is when basically how Burton went to

939
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 2: Hay with him and he was a gentleman. He walked away,

940
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: Remember he kind of challenged him and then he was

941
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: kind of upset that it didn't go deep into playoffs.

942
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: Yeah no, but I think it's more not what they

943
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: say verbally, but I think it's the way that they

944
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 4: played their game speaks. So when you look at Justin

945
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: Jefferson and just think about the craze that was created

946
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: when he came in doing the gritty and doing a

947
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 4: dance in the end zone, and how the little kids

948
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 4: and everyone kind of followed suit. For Giannis, I think

949
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 4: it's the flair seeing someone his size whatever he's listed

950
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: at six' nine sixteen going in the end being able

951
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 4: to dunk and punish.

952
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 3: People the way that he.

953
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: DOES i think your game has to have like a little,

954
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 4: pizzazz a little pop to really be considered a.

955
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: Superstar there are a lot of great, players.

956
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 4: You, know for, instance you're in the, City Trey hendrickson

957
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: is a great, player BUT i don't know if people

958
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 4: would call him a superstar because he, doesn't you, know

959
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: he doesn't kind of move the.

960
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: Needle you have to be able to move the needle with.

961
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: Your, game and that's part of WHAT i believe the

962
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 4: equation is when it comes to.

963
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 2: Superstar, well in, FOOTBALL i think there's a good chance

964
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: that a superstar is going to be on the offensive

965
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: side of the, ball just just the way it, is

966
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: AND i think. THAT i was surprised you didn't mention

967
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: That kelsey And mahomes as far as, SUPERSTARS.

968
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: I, mean, LIKE i, mean, LOOK i think and those

969
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: guys like KE i would Say Pat mahomes is more

970
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: of a superstar than.

971
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: THAT i.

972
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 4: Think kelsey has certainly been a great, player A hall

973
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: Of fame. Player some of his recent superstar is attached

974
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: to his, partner his significant, Other Taylor, script has brought

975
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: a different level of limelight to. HIM i would, say

976
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: when you think about the, superstars, man there has to

977
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: be something about their game.

978
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: That captivates the.

979
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: Imagination Lamar, Jackson Josh, allen they have superstar qualities because

980
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: of the way that they, play the way that they do.

981
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: IT i would, say going all the way back To

982
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 4: Tom brady being a, superstar Tom brady's was less about

983
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 4: his game and more ABOUT i would call it The

984
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 4: Joe Montana Roger starbreck. Effect you always tune in because

985
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: you felt, like, man they're never gonna, lose you, know

986
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: they they give off this feeling that they're never gonna,

987
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: Lose they're always gonna come through in the.

988
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: Clutch it has to have some of this not invincibility.

989
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 4: About, them but there's a there's a, flare there's a

990
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: there's an air against there's a competitive thing that you

991
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 4: can just sense that makes you either love him or hate.

992
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: Him but, regardless you always tune.

993
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: In let me throw two more names at, you then

994
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: we'll roll on, here Uh barkley And Steph.

995
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: Curry all, Right, STEPH i mean Chef. Steph steph for.

996
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: Sure uhu has certainly got back into that mix because

997
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 4: remember at the end of His giants, tenure like he

998
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: kind of faded a little.

999
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: Bit the big plays weren't. There but what he did

1000
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: last year certainly put him in that superstardom.

1001
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 4: Deal but but think about because you use The Saquon barkley,

1002
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: example remember that jump that he, did the backwards hurdle

1003
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: over the player Against. Jacksonville WHEN i talk about, flair

1004
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: those things, resonate you, Know and so that's gonna be

1005
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: the cover Of, madden him jumping backwards over A jaguars.

1006
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: Defender but seeing that first, hand it's like a wow, moment,

1007
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: like oh my, GOD i can't believe he did it

1008
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: because you don't see. That that's not an everyday move

1009
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: that you see people. Do so that's part of the

1010
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 4: stuff that they have to. Have so, YEAH i think

1011
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: that's part of.

1012
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: It you, know it's. FUNNY i, mean as we're gonna

1013
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: close this little chat out in a. Minute WHEN i

1014
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: think about, superstars you, know and that term is thrown

1015
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: out so loosely by some media people in The National

1016
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: Football league maybe on one, hand maybe that many and THE.

1017
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: Nba you Threw giannis out there And, steph you, know

1018
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: you didn't Put Kevin durant out, there and really and

1019
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: truly there aren't that many that that's a term that

1020
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: should be really respected when you throw it on someone's.

1021
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: Name AND i think people throw it out there just like.

1022
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: Loosely AND i don't Think halliburton's a superstar yet yet

1023
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: he could. Be he's a star not a. Superstar there's a.

1024
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: Difference there's a huge.

1025
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 4: Difference AND i would say What halliburton like and their different, levels,

1026
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: Right so when we talk about superstar, MEGASTAR i mean

1027
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 4: we talk about transcendent generational, talent meaning, man there's only

1028
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: a handful of guys less than five that we should

1029
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: regard as superstars in the.

1030
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: League they are the elite of the. Elites stars are.

1031
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 4: Different stars are the guys THAT i would consider top,

1032
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 4: ten top fifteen at their. Position so there can be

1033
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: a lot of, stars but those, megastars those. Superstars, man

1034
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: you talk about the top two or three at their,

1035
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: position and they're. Different they have to have a special

1036
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: pizazz to them outside of just oh they're a really good.

1037
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: Player has to be more than.

1038
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: That you know what? Superstars in, fact have you played

1039
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: in THE nfl as? Teammates who are your superstar?

1040
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: Teammates superstar.

1041
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: Teammates So Brett favre was a superstar because he won

1042
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 4: three straight. MVPs WHEN i was In Green, BAY i

1043
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: would consider him a. Star WHEN i was In. Buffalo

1044
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 4: it's interesting Because Jim, Kelly Thrmer, thomas And Andre Reid

1045
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 4: hall of, Famers Bruce, SMITH i would Say Bruce smith

1046
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: was a. Superstar Jim kelly was a, star BUT i

1047
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: don't know if he was the superstar.

1048
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: That the league regarded as a.

1049
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: Superstar SO i would say of that, Quartet Bruce smith

1050
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 4: would be the one that was probably more regarded as a. Superstar,

1051
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: raiders No, Chiefs Derek thomas would be in that mix

1052
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: as a. Superstar but that's kind about, it you, know

1053
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 4: like That Reggie white In Green bay was a. Superstar not,

1054
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: many and there shouldn't be, Many like it should be

1055
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: a rarity that you played with a super. Star that's. Different,

1056
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 4: yeah that's an exclusive. Club everyone doesn't get a, membership.

1057
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: No doubt about. That and look In cincinnati media have

1058
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: been Calling elie de La cruz a. Superstar AND i

1059
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: laugh WHEN i hear that he's a. Star he's got superstar.

1060
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: Potential maybe he's a great play he does a lot of. Things,

1061
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: well not a. SUPERSTAR i, mean you, know to use

1062
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: him in the same breath as guys Like Johnny bench

1063
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: who played for The reds And Pete. Rose those guys were.

1064
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: Superstars ellie de La cruz put the brakes on a little.

1065
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 4: Bit, Please, okay tell me what you don't like About

1066
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 4: ellie de La cruz because my son loves. Him is

1067
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: he because Elevate, yeah because he hasn't elevated The reds

1068
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 4: to that that contender.

1069
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: Thing because this game certainly has some some, flair some

1070
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: of that.

1071
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: Be a superstar on a team and you don't have

1072
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: to elevate the. Tea for, EXAMPLE i Thought Ernie banks

1073
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: may he rest in, peace was a superstar for The

1074
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: Chicago cubs and he was M vp twice back to

1075
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: back years and if he finished, Last so you don't

1076
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: have to elevate the team to be a, superstar and

1077
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: he was a Superstar Ernie, banks AND i Loved Ernie

1078
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: banks and those Old cubs. Teams, However elie de La

1079
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: cruze does not have to elevate The, reds but he's

1080
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: got to elevate. Himself AND i think to be a,

1081
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 2: superstar you can't bat to seventy and be a. Superstar

1082
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: he could run like a. Deer he's. Unbelievable he's got

1083
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: a tremendous, arm he's got a great. Attitude you, know

1084
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: he just lost his sister the other day and he

1085
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: came back to. Play what a teammate that. Is came

1086
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: back to play the next day for The Dominican so

1087
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: he's a great, player not yet a. Superstar AND i

1088
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 2: think a superstar to me is not a guy who

1089
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: bats two. Seventy for, EXAMPLE i don't Think Bill mazeroski

1090
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: is A hall Of famer for The Pittsburgh. Pirates he's

1091
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: in The hall Of, fame and his lifetime average is

1092
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: like in the two. SIXTIES i don't think he's A

1093
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: hall Of. Famer, SORRY i. Know we hit that game

1094
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: winning home run in nineteen sixty against The yankees and

1095
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: that was his clank to fame and they put it

1096
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: The Old Timers Veterans committee put him in The hall Of.

1097
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: Fame don't think he deserved.

1098
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: It, okay all, RIGHT i got, it, Man and tell.

1099
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: Your SON i do love, him you. Know and you

1100
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: know what this reds GAME i go. To i'll tell

1101
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: him that and maybe he'll give you a little sign

1102
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 2: thing or. Something i'll go down to the. Clubhouse, yeah

1103
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: we'll do, that all. Right, now you wrote about this

1104
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: IN nfl dot com the other day and you call

1105
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: it SEVEN Nfl enigmas in twenty twenty. Five first of,

1106
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: all what is this all? About how do you pick?

1107
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: These and what does it? Mean what does it? Mean tell?

1108
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: Me fill me.

1109
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: In so the, enigma by, definition is like something that

1110
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 4: you just can't figure, Out like you just kind of.

1111
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: Perplexed you're.

1112
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 4: Confused you can't make a definitive statement one way or

1113
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: the other on who the player. Is so when we

1114
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: talk about, players you talk about players who have flash

1115
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 4: greatness at various times throughout their, career but they also

1116
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: haven't been able to sustain, it so they come and.

1117
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: Go they're inconsistent. Superstars maybe that would be the way inconsistent.

1118
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: Stars and so we wanted to pick seven players that

1119
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: have kind of teased the imagination of, scouts but they

1120
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: have also.

1121
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: Left a lot to be.

1122
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: Desired that was kind of the basis of the thing

1123
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: and going into this, year guys that have a lot

1124
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 4: riding on their performance because they have been so inconsistent

1125
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: that the team will have to make decisions at the

1126
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: end of the, year and how they perform will ultimately

1127
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: The german which direction the team goes.

1128
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: In, okay so how do you pick these? GUYS i

1129
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: mean out of a barrelough you just looked at their

1130
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: stats or by, positions.

1131
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: The combination, like so you kind of go through who

1132
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: are the people the teams buzzing? About, right who's the

1133
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 4: league buzzing? About so when you pick A Kylum murray

1134
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: or you talk About Kevon, thibadeau given what they just

1135
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: did in the, draft getting An Abdul carter or some

1136
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 4: of the other, Names George, pickens who has carried a

1137
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: level of cachet coming From, pittsburgh you want to talk

1138
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 4: about those guys because it's obvious that they're super, talented

1139
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: that they have big play impact, potential but there's something

1140
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 4: that's just lacking.

1141
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: That prevents you from jumping all in on.

1142
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: Them, okay and sometimes it's a change of coaching that

1143
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: could get that out of. You. Right we saw that

1144
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: In minnesota list here with their quarterback. Situation, right change of,

1145
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: coach you, know could.

1146
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: Be change the, venue change a, coach it could be.

1147
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: Anything you, know it could be anything that kind of

1148
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: leads you along that. Way but it's one of the

1149
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 4: things that you that you, like that you love about,

1150
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: him but you just want to see.

1151
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: More you want to see. MORE i need, more, uh

1152
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: to really be convinced that they can take us to

1153
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: the next.

1154
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: Level, so in other, words it's a player that maybe

1155
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: not living up to his potential or the potential you

1156
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: thought he would. Have let's start with tell you Mentioned

1157
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: Kyler murray twenty Nineteen Offensive rookie of The. Year what's

1158
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: the problem With Kyler? Murray why can't he put it all? Together?

1159
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: Uh, look, LOOK i think it's the overall, record he's

1160
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: a sub five hundred. Quarterback they have one playoff appearance

1161
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: and he doesn't have a playoff.

1162
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: Win he has been all those. Things he was A

1163
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: rookie of The. Year he has flashed the potential to

1164
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: make things.

1165
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: Happen but coming off of that knee, injury, like he

1166
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 4: hasn't been the, same not the same in terms of

1167
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 4: like dual, threat play, making, ability, consistency, dominance all. That

1168
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 4: so what you want to see is someone who commanded

1169
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 4: a big. Contract you want to see him get into

1170
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 4: the conversation as a top five quarterback by being the

1171
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 4: dominant player that he once was or that he teases

1172
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 4: that he could be early in his. Career so Calam

1173
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: murray has to go there because the team hasn't won

1174
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 4: enough and he hasn't dominated consistently enough to be in

1175
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 4: that superstar.

1176
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: Category, okay so let's pull the curtain back a little

1177
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: bit because the fact that you played the, game you

1178
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: know the answers to these. Questions we don't have to

1179
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: drop names, here but you, guy you have a teammate

1180
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: Like Carla murray and he gets these awards and come

1181
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: out out of college who has heralded big time offensive

1182
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: rookie in the, year there's got to be players in

1183
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: that locker room, saying what's the deal with this? Guy

1184
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: he's not working as. HARD i thought he was really.

1185
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: GOOD i, mean there's gotta be some buzz in that

1186
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: locker room about this, guy which creates somewhat of a

1187
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: problem because guys, say wait a, minute you're not as

1188
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: good as we thought you were going to, be, Right

1189
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: doesn't that create some sort of a.

1190
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: Problem, yeah it creates a. Problem it creates a, problem

1191
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: particularly when the money these.

1192
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: Exchange and so when you're paying someone forty plus million,

1193
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: dollars you expect them to deliver forty million dollars worth of,

1194
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 4: performance meaning that each and every big game they show

1195
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 4: up and show out that you're able to lean on

1196
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: them a handful of games to make these gotta have

1197
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: it plays when the team is. Down that's the level

1198
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 4: of expectation that comes with the. Compensation so if you

1199
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: want to be regarded as a star and paid as a,

1200
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 4: star then you got to deliver star performances when it,

1201
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: matters and so there's a lot of that that comes with.

1202
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: It all, right we move, on and this guy's a

1203
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: bit of a. Character George. Pickens, okay now with The Dallas,

1204
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: cowboys Surprisingly pittsburgh lettingm go despite the stats that he put.

1205
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: Up their thirteen touchdowns over sixteen yards of. Catch so

1206
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: obviously there's something missing or something. More and we've seen

1207
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: this situation comes to practice. Late wasn't need a guy

1208
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: who's taken videos in the locker room and he released.

1209
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: Them he doesn't have it all. TOGETHER i, mean you

1210
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: got to be, focused and you got to be a team.

1211
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: Guy you can't be a. Clown and at TIMES i

1212
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 2: Thought George pickens was a. Clown he put these stats

1213
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: up on a team that didn't really have a great.

1214
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: Quarterback now he's going To, dallas maybe he could put

1215
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: up some big, numbers but still in all will he

1216
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: straighten his act out or still be a?

1217
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 3: CLOWN i mean looks that's to many another.

1218
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 4: Question he has a lot writing on that because what

1219
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 4: he displays this season will determine what kind of contract

1220
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 4: he gets. Net he's due for a contract, extension and

1221
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 4: if he wants that contract, extension he has to be

1222
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 4: on his best behavior when it comes to his emotional,

1223
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 4: maturity the outbursts that he displays on the. Field he

1224
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: has to look like and feel like he's a great.

1225
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: Teammate on top of bringing SOLID i won't even say.

1226
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: Solid, production superb, production OPPOSITE Cd.

1227
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 4: Lamb this is a chance Because Ceedee lamb is opening

1228
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 4: up the door and, saying, hey there's not a number

1229
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: one and number, two we're ONE a and ONE b situation.

1230
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: CoV co wide.

1231
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: Receiver once that says a lot from the guy that

1232
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 4: was designated as a number one. Receiver so there's a

1233
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: lot of respect for his, Talent but can he bring

1234
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 4: the game to the field consistently that would enable him

1235
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: to dominate like the talent suggests he should be able.

1236
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: To, okay let's move along to one of my favorite

1237
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 2: teams In New York Football. Giants, okay offensive Linebacker Keevon.

1238
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: Thibodeau and here's a. Guy what do he played forty three?

1239
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: Games you, say and he had like twenty one. Sacks

1240
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: that's to, me he's pretty. Good that's pretty. Good so

1241
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: what's the problem With? Thibodeau?

1242
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: Inconsistent, see you, know like he had a ten sax,

1243
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: season but then the next season he's back in single.

1244
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: Digits and some will say that he's a little one

1245
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: dimensional in his.

1246
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: Approach he's all about the sacks and those things offers

1247
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: little on the ground against the. Run but when you're

1248
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: surrounded by Now Derek Dexter. Lawrence you Have Brian burns

1249
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 4: on the other. Side you Have Abdual carter coming. In

1250
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: if he doesn't show, up everyone's going to notice because

1251
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: This giants defense should be a top ten, defense really

1252
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: a top five, defense given the personnel they have up.

1253
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: Front so there are a lot of eyeballs On Tevon

1254
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: thibodeaux to. See, look he's the fifth overall.

1255
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: Pick is he that kind of?

1256
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 4: Player can you imagine him getting a gold jacket based

1257
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: on his talents right? NOW i don't, know BUT i

1258
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 4: think it's one of those things that we got to

1259
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 4: see him dominate to kind of put that to.

1260
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: Bed, okay But i'll say, This, okay you're telling me

1261
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: that these guys are not giving you the effort or

1262
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: the results expected of. Them but, again let's not blame

1263
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: the player as much as the people who drafted them

1264
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: in that. Position. Right isn't there a question of someone

1265
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: who made that pick and that someone's gonna put a

1266
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: finger in their chest and, say wait a. Minute you,

1267
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: Know thibodeau all of a sudden now is not giving

1268
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: us what we expected as a number five. Pick you,

1269
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: know maybe you didn't make the right. Pick that's a, possibility.

1270
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: RIGHT i mean that is a possibility because when you

1271
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: make the, selections right when we get around the, draft

1272
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 4: we always talk, about, oh this guy's a first round.

1273
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: Talent oh he should be a top five.

1274
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 4: Pick, yeah but they're expectations that come along with and

1275
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: drafted in the top, five and the standard is. High

1276
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: and when you're taking in the top, FIVE i should

1277
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: be able to, envision to, imagine to project that this

1278
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: player is going to deliver the kind of performances that

1279
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: will eventually make him A Gold jacket. Consideration at the

1280
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 4: end of his, career he should be A hall Of

1281
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 4: fame candidate based on. That and that sounds crazy to

1282
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 4: put that, expectation but that is what we talk about

1283
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: in the. Draft that's why you shouldn't give out those

1284
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 4: big grades unless they're truly truly. Earned and when you

1285
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: take someone in the top, five where you take someone

1286
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: number one, overall like A Cala, murray, well the expectation

1287
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 4: is he's going to be a transformative, talent someone that

1288
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 4: is going to completely revolutionize the, franchise turn it, around

1289
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 4: get us back on, track and deliver it not only

1290
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: individually but. Collectively he's going to dominate as a, player

1291
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: but he's also going to help this team. Dominate that's

1292
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 4: the expectation that comes along with being a. Topic so

1293
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: some of these, guys a lot of these guys are

1294
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 4: first round picks who haven't delivered consistently on the promise

1295
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 4: and potential that we.

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01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: Saw when we decided to make them the.

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Speaker 2: Pick all, right we've got two, more But i'm gonna

1298
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: put them on. Hold we'll get them in the next

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01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: seven two more over there That Bucky brooks has the,

1300
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: enigmas the enigmas of THE, nfl we'll get those. There

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Speaker 2: Get bucky ourn't x At Bucket brooks At Andy FURMAN

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1314
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1315
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1321
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1332
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 2: about ten minutes from now And brianna is going to

1333
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: handle that. NOW i want to go back to the

1334
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: Seven enigmas right now in The National Football, league and,

1335
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: UH i want to ask, You Bucky, brooks do you

1336
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: ever get any heat from some of THESE nfl players

1337
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: when writing things about them like This enigma?

1338
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 6: Thing?

1339
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely but this.

1340
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 4: Look but it's a situation where you have to whatever you,

1341
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: write you have to fully believe in yourself so you

1342
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 4: can defend it when you talk to. Them AND i

1343
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: think the best way when a player confronts you is

1344
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 4: to give an honest take.

1345
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: On the opinion and tell, him, look, man it's not.

1346
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: Personal it's my.

1347
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: Opinion doesn't Mean i'm, right but here's WHAT i, feel

1348
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 4: and you explain to them how you got to that.

1349
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: Point and a lot of players may give you the,

1350
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 4: heat but if you can explain it and if you'll

1351
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 4: stand firm in your, opinion look they back. DOWN i

1352
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 4: had a situation years ago When Earl thomas was In

1353
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: seattle AND i am there doing stuff WITH Nfl network

1354
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 4: and he comes in the middle, practice but before practice

1355
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 4: he's screaming at, me AND i can't figure out what

1356
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: he's upset, about because in my. MIND i hadn't written,

1357
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 4: anything and we had shared conversations in those things, before

1358
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: but it was A he was still mad because when

1359
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 4: he came, OUT i Ranked Eric berry over him At.

1360
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 4: Safety no idea that he was that upset about me

1361
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 4: Ranking Eric berry over him when they were coming out of,

1362
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 4: College Eric barry being At, Tennessee Aaron thomas coming out Of.

1363
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 4: Texas but it was a, deal AND i had to

1364
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 4: have that conversation with. Him even though it was an intensified,

1365
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 4: conversation you still have the conversation and you move.

1366
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: Forward that is. Why and you know, This, andy because

1367
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: you've been in locker.

1368
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: Rooms that's why what you say you better, believe because

1369
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: if a player challenges you on, it you got to

1370
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 4: be able to stand firm ten toes down on what

1371
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: it is that you.

1372
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: Believe two.

1373
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: Things number, one they'll always tell. You and you know

1374
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: this now as a. FACT i don't listen to the

1375
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: radio AND i don't. Read they. Do they listen to,

1376
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 2: everything and they hear everything and they see. Everything there's

1377
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: number one and number two if in, fact you write,

1378
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: something AND i feel so good to hear this because

1379
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 2: you played the game and you got some heat AND

1380
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: i guess some of these guys come to you and,

1381
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: say but come, on, man you played the. Game what

1382
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: are you doing this to? Me why do me dirty like?

1383
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: This BUT i get. That but if you write that

1384
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: and you believe, that and you say things like, that

1385
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: you better show your face because that shows these guys

1386
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: that you got a pair of hanging. Downs because if you,

1387
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: don't you usually you have no. Credibility BECAUSE i a

1388
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: would say stuff on the radio locally In, cincinnati BUT

1389
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: i always show up the next day in the locker.

1390
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: Room AND i said this to you once before that

1391
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: may he rest in. Peace Tom browning picture on The Cincinnati.

1392
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: Reds he wrote a, book and he said that he

1393
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: didn't agree with a lot of Things i'd say on the,

1394
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: radio but he really applauded me BECAUSE i always would

1395
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: show up the next day in the locker. Room NOW

1396
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: i showed up not so much BECAUSE i wanted to

1397
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 2: get the. CREDIBILITY i showed up BECAUSE i know it

1398
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: may cause a, ruckus AND i like to cause. Ruckuses

1399
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: and if there was nothing really and if there were

1400
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: other mediate people, there it was. Great And Rob dibble

1401
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: would always go nuts on me in the locker room

1402
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: and there were newspaper guys would be there and then

1403
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: it was right about. It SO i love. That so you,

1404
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: know in one, Sense i'm kind of showing these guys, that,

1405
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: YEAH i said it HERE i. Am you, Know i'm

1406
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: gonna have to eat a bowl of, crap AND i

1407
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: did many a. Time but also it gained some. Prs

1408
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: so that's a good thing, Too so we move. ON i,

1409
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: mean but you gotta, share you gotta show your.

1410
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 4: Face so now here's the. Difference and in this where

1411
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 4: things have. Changed social media has allowed people to say

1412
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: those things without ever having to face the. Player, right

1413
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 4: you can get wild and reckless.

1414
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 3: And loose with your language knowing that you're never going

1415
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: to face the.

1416
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 4: Player and we've also created this environment where we always

1417
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 4: tell the players, no, no, no you should be above.

1418
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 3: That don't listen to. That why you responding YadA, YadA.

1419
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 3: YadA well no, no, no no no.

1420
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 4: No like in civilian, life if someone says something to,

1421
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 4: Me i'm gonna be able to, respond SO i should

1422
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,959
Speaker 4: expect the player to. Respond but because those interactions don't

1423
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 4: really happen face to, face they happen Via. Twitter it's

1424
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 4: different than what it used to be when the beat

1425
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 4: writer would have to show up in the locker room and.

1426
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: It would be a very tense situation when everyone would

1427
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: see the beat right and the player because we all.

1428
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 3: Knew the players knew.

1429
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 4: This ain't gonna be, good and the reporters knew THAT

1430
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 4: i better be ready for a confrontation.

1431
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: Today, yeah and you, know, LOOK i go to a

1432
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: baseball locker room before a game or after the. GAME

1433
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: i knew what to expect because it's twenty five against,

1434
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 2: one that's what it's basically what it. Is they form that,

1435
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: circle they go crazy on. You they, yell they. Scream

1436
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: they don't touch. You you, know they don't hit, you

1437
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: but you're ready. To didn't hold the, ground but you

1438
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 2: for ten fifteen. Minutes you take, It you suck. It

1439
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: i'll you walk away and the next day it's. Office

1440
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: that's the end of. That but you're right about the social,

1441
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: media BECAUSE i think there are people on social. Media

1442
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: not only did they write ugly things and say stupid,

1443
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: things they want to bait you to say things and.

1444
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: Respond And Kevin durant is one of those guys that

1445
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: always responds on social. Media he's got to learn to control.

1446
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 4: Himself he does But i'm gonna say, this and, LOOK

1447
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 4: i would give him a ton of credit for taking two,

1448
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 4: guys a ton of credit for taking the, industry the sports,

1449
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 4: industry and to a higher height when it comes to

1450
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 4: the amount of money the, provocavation like in terms of

1451
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: like the, money the compensation and all of. That but

1452
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 4: this is a byproduct of the debate culture that we

1453
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 4: saw on sports talk radio AND tv STEVEN. A, Smith Skip,

1454
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: bayless the way that they would, debate the language that

1455
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 4: they would, use the inflammatory language that they would use regarding.

1456
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 3: Players that is created and spawned a bunch of a generation.

1457
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 4: Of people who, think, oh that's how you supposed to cover,

1458
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: it that's how you supposed to talk about.

1459
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 3: Players and call them bumbs and scrubs and they suck

1460
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: and all.

1461
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 4: This they lost a little bit of the WHAT i

1462
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 4: would call the human element of the, criticism which has

1463
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: really made a contentions between media types and, players.

1464
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: No, doubt no doubt about. THAT i want to just

1465
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: finish up these enigmas for you IF i, can AND

1466
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: i talk about, them and one of them Is treik

1467
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: wooland use all pro cornerback For seattle and you have

1468
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: them on THIS i, mean this guy was A Pro bowl.

1469
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: PLAYER i, mean so how does he become in a

1470
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: nigmap because he's not producing at that same level or

1471
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: he just had one great, year what's the.

1472
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 4: Deal, yeah he's not producing at the same level that

1473
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 4: he wants to produced, at and so that changes the. Equation,

1474
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 4: yeah he's become a bit of an enigma because how

1475
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 4: can you play so well as a rookie and then

1476
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 4: not even come close to reaching those. Heights, again some

1477
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 4: of that is on his play, technique some of that

1478
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 4: is about the injuries and those. Things but, yeah like

1479
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 4: he hasn't been what we thought he was going to

1480
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 4: be after he kind of teased this that first.

1481
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: Year interesting, There, Okay Kyle pitts tight end for The Atlanta,

1482
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: falcons and, look he was a fourth overall pick in

1483
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. One maybe it's a possibility that father time

1484
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: has taking its. Toll is that possible if he's not

1485
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: producing the way he did back four years? Ago that's, possible, Right, nah.

1486
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 3: He's too young to do.

1487
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 4: THAT i would say a couple of things that have

1488
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 4: Hurt kyle's. Pits every year in the, draft we fall

1489
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 4: in love with a, player, right we always talk about

1490
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 4: this player has all these tools and all these traits

1491
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 4: and he can revolutionize the position in those. Things and

1492
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 4: so With Kyle, PITTS i believe on our, side the media,

1493
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 4: side we put a lot of expectations that this guy

1494
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 4: was going to come and take the league by. Storm

1495
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 4: and then his rookie season when he has a thousand yard,

1496
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 4: year there's an expectation that he is going to put

1497
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: up these kind.

1498
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 3: Of numbers for the.

1499
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 4: Duration but he hasn't had another thousand yard seasons since

1500
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 4: that rookie. Season and it's frustrating because the people that

1501
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 4: is his ardent, supporters the people in the media that

1502
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 4: talked about you got to take him in the top,

1503
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 4: five they want him to validate and justify why he

1504
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 4: should have been taken in the top. Five and then

1505
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 4: you have another faction of folks, like, hey, look he's,

1506
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 4: solid he's. Good he's not what he was made out to,

1507
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 4: be and so we got to figure out a way

1508
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 4: to work around his deficiencies while occasionally playing to his

1509
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 4: strengths as a pass catcher in those. Things and so

1510
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 4: at the end of the, year when you look at the,

1511
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: numbers numbers fall short of. Expectation Cale pitts is in

1512
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 4: a difficult situation because people expect him to Be Kellen

1513
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 4: winslow To hall Of, famer but what he is is

1514
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 4: solid and so there's a disconnect between those two.

1515
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: Expectations all, right, now we Got Bryce huff defensive end

1516
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers right, now WHO i guess

1517
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 2: he was with The. Eagles didn't get it done with The.

1518
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: Eagles now he's going To San francisco with a new

1519
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: coach over. There maybe that'll make a. Difference who knows.

1520
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: Well Roberts soli coaching with The jets and twenty twenty

1521
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 4: three when he was with The, jets he led the

1522
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 4: league in pass rush, rate you, know like he was

1523
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 4: winning twenty one percent of his past rush.

1524
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 3: Attempts he had ten. Sacks he was all over the.

1525
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 4: Place The Philadelphia eagle sign him to a blockbuster, deal three,

1526
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 4: year fifty one, million and he struggles getting off the

1527
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 4: bench In Vic fangio's. System, well Roberts sola gets dumped

1528
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 4: from The, jets makes his way To San, francisco becomes

1529
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 4: de coordinator lo and behold The Sam sucu forty Nine

1530
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 4: ers orchestrated trade with The eagles to Get Bryce, Up,

1531
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: Well bryce up played his best with The jets Under Robert.

1532
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 4: Sala the expectation is that he will do that again Under.

1533
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 4: Solah but you can't dismiss what took place In. Philly

1534
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 4: why didn't it work for him in The. Eagles after

1535
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 4: you do, that you, know, autopsy then you can figure, out,

1536
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 4: hey how can we get him.

1537
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 3: To be the best and the best that he can

1538
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: be the best version of himself In San.

1539
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 2: Francisco, okay, last but not, least are you one of

1540
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: your former teams the linebacker for The Green Bay, Packers Kay,

1541
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: walker and you call him a tackling. MACHINE a tackling

1542
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: machine filled in on this.

1543
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: Look, man he's had over one hundred tackles and three

1544
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 4: straight seasons he has flashed tremendous splash playability in terms

1545
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 4: of like being able to rack up. SACKS i want

1546
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 4: to SAY i may not have put it in. There

1547
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 4: he had twenty one tackles for. Loss that's the second

1548
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 4: most Of bunks young defenders from that that. Span but,

1549
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 4: man he has these moments where he just messes. Up

1550
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 4: he has these egregious eras and penalties and just doesn't

1551
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 4: make the. Play The packers didn't even extend them on

1552
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 4: a fifth year, option you, know because look they'll sit

1553
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 4: here and.

1554
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 3: Say, like, oh we have every intention of signing.

1555
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 4: Him but the one thing that you know is like

1556
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 4: people that they really, like you never see them decline

1557
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 4: the fifth year. Option so there's a there's a little

1558
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 4: question maybe on what he is and what can he consistently.

1559
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: Deliver so, look he falls into that.

1560
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 4: Category he's an enigma because we just don't know which

1561
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 4: one's gonna show up each and every.

1562
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: Week, oh you're gonna get some heat on this when

1563
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: you see these. Guys, yeah how do you clim?

1564
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 5: In?

1565
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: Enigma? Right you'll get? It have you gotten it? Yet?

1566
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 3: Again it? YET i haven't gotten. Anything like there's some

1567
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 3: mentions and stuff like, that but nothing, crazy you.

1568
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 4: KNOW i just make SURE i have My webster's Uh

1569
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 4: dictionary with me SO i can Put i'll be, like oh,

1570
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 4: wait before you get.

1571
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 3: Mad it doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad BECAUSE i

1572
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 3: called you an? Enigma is you KNOW i use?

1573
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: That, YEAH i know you use that word, intentionally but

1574
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: you figure half those guys don't know what it.

1575
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 4: Means that's why, NO i would not say that they

1576
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 4: would be Disrespectful i'm just, Saying i'm Just i'm just

1577
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 4: want to make sure they understand the definition before they

1578
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 4: come up here with a lot of.

1579
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: Volume i'm, LIKE, Whoa i'm not being.

1580
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 4: Disrespectful i'm just saying you're you're an enigma BECAUSE i don't,

1581
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 4: KNOW i can't make out what you.

1582
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: Are we expect more from. You that's what it. Is

1583
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: there we, go all, right if you want to read

1584
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: more about THAT nfl Dot com every Week Bucket brooks

1585
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: right there, NOW i want to talk about the hype,

1586
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: machine the hype machine in The National Football. League THE

1587
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 2: iss notne. Better they're Really first of, all the number

1588
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: ONE nfl draft, pick this you obviously quarterback Can Ward.

1589
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee where the hell is? He you can't find them

1590
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: under under a? Cover really is he in witness? PROTECTION

1591
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 2: i mean you would think the number one, pick the Quarterback,

1592
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: tennessee you'd be reading and writing about this guy every single. Day,

1593
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 2: no but you know what we hear about SHD. A

1594
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: sanders and they talk about every movie makes in the

1595
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: organized team activities the, OTAs which, honestly and you know,

1596
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: this they don't mean a. Thing OTA's mean, nothing, right there's.

1597
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: NOTHING i mean you need to say he was six

1598
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 2: for nine. Passing what does that? Mean Ohta's but that's

1599
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: all they talk about, now is? Shaduur is it? GUILT i,

1600
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: mean why are they doing this because he got railroaded

1601
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: in the, Draft so now the media wants to feel

1602
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: sorry for the? Guy is that?

1603
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 3: It he's a click ratings.

1604
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 4: Bonanza anytime you mentioned Shaudr, sanders your rating goes up

1605
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 4: when it comes to amount of clicks and views on your.

1606
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 3: Page that's why they talk about them all the.

1607
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 4: Time and no matter how much they might have hated

1608
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 4: on him during the, process they know that there is

1609
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 4: a star quality that comes With shardure and Even. Silo

1610
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 4: because we've seen a lot of conversation on Shallow sanders

1611
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 4: down To Tampa Anti bowls just issue of statement at

1612
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 4: his preson talked about, him how he's doing so well

1613
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 4: doing all season program and all the other things that

1614
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 4: he's bringing to the table with Chardur. Is, yeah there's

1615
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 4: some of that because the noise was out there about

1616
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 4: the character concerns and he can't play and all of this,

1617
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 4: stuff and so you're waiting to either validate or confirm.

1618
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 3: Your opinion on them one way or the.

1619
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 4: Other so part of the, people the faction folks that

1620
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 4: are paying, attention they're there hopeful that he is delivering

1621
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 4: on the promising potential that some.

1622
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 3: Of us saw from him At.

1623
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 4: Colorado the other part is hoping that he bombs flat

1624
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 4: out because for whatever, reason they don't like the personality

1625
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 4: and they don't think that he's a strong.

1626
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 3: Player you have all of those, Things, yeah, yeah you

1627
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 3: have all.

1628
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 4: Of those things in play at, OTAs and because OTA's Are, look,

1629
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 4: man we are a football loving. Culture we love, ball

1630
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 4: and when we can't get real, ball we want. Springball

1631
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 4: we can't get, springball we want summer OTAs and mini.

1632
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 3: Camps in those, things that's just who we are as

1633
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 3: The american.

1634
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 4: Public and these OTAs we call them. Practice we say

1635
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 4: they're glorified practices that don't mean. Anything but in the,

1636
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 4: moment that's all we.

1637
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 3: Got so because it's all we, got we got to

1638
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 3: talk about. It and so that's what it is when

1639
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 3: it comes To Shuder sanders.

1640
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: And last but not, Least i've mentioned this team's season

1641
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: maybe down the drain before it. Starts Anthony, richardson quarterback

1642
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: for The, colts sideline with that right shoulder. Injury so

1643
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, Now maybe it's to break That Daniel

1644
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: jones needs for his. CAREER i mean first team.

1645
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 4: REPS i, mean, Look Anthony richardson has Been he's one

1646
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 4: of those GUYS i could have put him the.

1647
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 3: List he's an enigma because they took him.

1648
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 4: Thinking that he was the superstar athlete and playmaking those,

1649
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 4: things and he's been nothing close to what the expectation

1650
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 4: would be for the fourth overall. Pick and if he

1651
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 4: really dug into, history it's been the same way since

1652
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: he's been in high school In. Florida the best it never,

1653
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 4: was you, know super, athlete but has never been able

1654
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 4: to consistently put it. Together and here we are again

1655
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 4: where he's dealing with an injury that cracks the door

1656
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 4: open For Daniel. Jones And Daniel jones is gonna walk

1657
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 4: through that because he's already been through.

1658
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 3: This he's done. This all this is slow.

1659
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 4: Motion he understands the criticism and all the stuff that

1660
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 4: comes along with being the, quarterbacks so he should be

1661
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 4: able to play through this.

1662
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: Stuff and we're just gonna see him all, right.

1663
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 2: My, Friend, okay He's Bucket. Brooks I'm Andy fermo With

1664
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 2: Fox But's Sunny Foxm's. Radio now you get two, choices

1665
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: and they're not yet or.

1666
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 6: No.

1667
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: Yay your AND a is? Next all, right, yay you

1668
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: AND a coming right up about nine minutes, now before

1669
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: the top of the, hour there'll be eight o'clock on

1670
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 2: The east. Coast He's Bucky brooks And Andy. Furman we're

1671
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 2: live from The Fox Butts radio. Studio so let's. Play, Yay,

1672
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: okay let's figure rock those, brains.

1673
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: Gentlemen these stories need an.

1674
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: ASS i think we need a ruling on.

1675
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: This it's yay or.

1676
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: Nay Bri are you ready handle?

1677
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: It?

1678
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 2: Baby come on?

1679
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 8: Now alrighty Does pacers Coach Rick carlisle go down it's

1680
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 8: one of the best coaches IN nba. History if The

1681
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 8: pacers defeat The thunder yeay or Nae andy e're?

1682
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: UP i would say. THIS i think he goes down

1683
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: to one of the best coaches IN nba, history even

1684
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 2: if The pacers don't, win that's how good a coach he.

1685
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 4: Is, Yay, yeah BUT i think the title would kind

1686
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 4: of solidified if he's able to get. That if he's

1687
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 4: able to get another, title that solidifies it for. Him

1688
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 4: it makes him legendary as a multiple time. Champion, YEAH

1689
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 4: i think he has an opportunity to do, that but

1690
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 4: he has to win, it all.

1691
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 8: Right If okase loses the, finals would it be a

1692
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 8: major choke job after a sixty eight win?

1693
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 7: Season, yeah your, Nay, Bucky, now wouldn't.

1694
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: Be a major choke. Job they've done a.

1695
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 4: Lot they've been in sixty plus games and doing all

1696
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 4: that other. Stuff but being the title is hard and

1697
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 4: sometimes you have to learn how to do. It remember

1698
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 4: The GOLDEN Si warriors won seventy three games and couldn't

1699
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 4: come away as the. Titleist it's a lot that you

1700
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 4: have to pull off to be able to win in the.

1701
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,799
Speaker 4: Postseason if they lose as part of the learning lessons

1702
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 4: that they must acquire before they can be a.

1703
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: Champion if they, Lose i'm gonna Get Halli burn to

1704
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 2: put his hands around his neck and do the choke job.

1705
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: Deal because this team won sixty eight per, year fifty

1706
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: seven last. Year at his, time you know it's about.

1707
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: Them you either got to get it done or, no

1708
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 2: and they gotta get it done this. Year a lot of,

1709
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: pressure not just to win the, finals they got to

1710
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: win it because of what they've.

1711
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 8: Accomplished, yes all righty That Aaron roger drama is finally?

1712
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 7: Over or is?

1713
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 8: It is it buyer beware for the stealer for The

1714
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh steelers yeay or?

1715
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 5: Nay?

1716
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 7: Andy?

1717
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: YEAH i say it's just.

1718
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 4: LOOKING i, mean whoever goes LIKE i think it's barer

1719
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: beware because they got exactly what they. Wanted they waited

1720
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 4: until the last minute to sign. Him he signs a mini,

1721
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 4: camp not enough time to bomb with his, teammates but who?

1722
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: Cares let him do his own. Thing and then For Mike,

1723
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 3: tomlin Who i've been.

1724
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: A huge supporter of forever, man he has kissed his

1725
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 4: wagon to an old quarterback who hasn't.

1726
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 3: Played very well of. LATE i don't like the way this.

1727
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 3: LOOKS i think both of these guys get a lot

1728
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 3: of pushback and blow.

1729
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 2: BACK i say. NO i think That Aaron rodgers rights

1730
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: now wants to settle his. Legacy he really. DOES i

1731
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,879
Speaker 2: think he's gonna do whatever he. CAN i think garbage

1732
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: is finished right. Now he's moving. On he's gonna play.

1733
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i think that's what he's gonna. DO i, Say,

1734
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: Nay that's What i'm. Saying, well this is a ya.

1735
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 7: Segment good, job, guys good.

1736
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: Job for you for your first, time, right, yeah first time, Right,

1737
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: yes very. Cool ONE nfl quarterback just became a big time.

1738
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: Loser that had more next On Fox Sports. Sunday, next.

1739
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: You're listening To Fox Sports Radio.

1740
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 2: Radio all, right there's one team and one, player make

1741
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 2: a team of. Contender that's coming right. Up good, morning.

1742
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 2: Everybody this Is Fox Sports sunday At Fox Sports. Radio

1743
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: He's Bucky brooks To Andy.

1744
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 3: Verman you know.

1745
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: What we're broadcasting live from The Fox Sports radio, studios

1746
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: and Uh, Buck i'll tell you. What it's been a

1747
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: great run. Today BUT i got a couple more questions

1748
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: to run by IF i.

1749
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 3: May what'd you get from?

1750
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: ME i read a report the other day that in

1751
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: The ota sessions of The New York Football giants there

1752
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 2: was some multiple, fights all, right AND i think it

1753
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: Was James, hudson the left, tackle And Brian, burns a pass.

1754
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: Rusher they were getting into. It first of, ALL i

1755
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: don't understand why football plays fight with the helmets. ON

1756
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: i think it is the dumbest thing in the. World

1757
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: that's number, one but number, TWO i don't see this

1758
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,839
Speaker 2: in other. SPORTS i see hockey players fight against players

1759
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 2: on the other. Team basketball, players maybe once in a

1760
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: while there is a spat in the locker, room but

1761
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 2: these guys do it and constantly it. Happens it's a

1762
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: commonplace that football players fight during preseason games with. Practice

1763
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: why is? THAT i mean you've been, around you've seen it, too,

1764
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: Right have you been involved in Any?

1765
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 4: YEAH i mean like, yeah because you're tired of seeing

1766
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 4: the same people all the. Time and it gets contentious

1767
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 4: as competitive and as you get closer to training, camp

1768
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 4: and in training camp where roster sponsor on the, line,

1769
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 4: yeah it becomes a little more contingents and you see

1770
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 4: some competitive conflict results and.

1771
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 3: Fights but it's nothing to. It and as you, say, now,

1772
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 3: look it's not smart to fight with a helmet, on.

1773
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 4: But you know, what areas not protected the, belly so

1774
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 4: you can gut punch people if you want.

1775
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 3: To so there's a way to always get it. Done

1776
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 3: and you just got to know what you're.

1777
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 4: Doing, now have you silly enough to think that you're

1778
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 4: gonna co cox somebody delivering one to the. Ear that's

1779
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 4: not gonna. Happen but you can you can gut punch.

1780
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 4: Them you also might be able to deliver a time the.

1781
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 4: Uppercut if you're really trying to throw your hands for,

1782
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 4: real it sounds.

1783
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 2: Like you've had some, experience you.

1784
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 4: Know i'm just saying, like you got to know the

1785
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 4: rules of. Engagement you have to know the rules of.

1786
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 4: Engagement if you decide that you want to square it

1787
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 4: off like a, gentleman then you better know what you're dealing.

1788
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 3: With and so you just got to.

1789
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: Know what are the coaches do after the fights are?

1790
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: Over they trying to break it. Up they'll let the guys.

1791
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: Go what do they.

1792
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 4: Do they're trying to break it. Up they're trying to

1793
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 4: break it. Up get get back to business because we're wasting.

1794
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 4: Time sometimes that is a great time, drainer, right everyone's.

1795
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 4: Tired you need a little, Break so let's have a

1796
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 4: fight so we can slow practice down for another ten

1797
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 4: to fifteen.

1798
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 3: Minutes so some of that.

1799
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 4: Stuff kind of, look, man it's a long it's a

1800
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 4: LONG i mean training camp is not quite what.

1801
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,480
Speaker 3: It, was but, yeah, man it's a long time, long

1802
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff going.

1803
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 2: On do we know what's a long? Time this era.

1804
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: Suation we finally get to it right. Now Aaron rodgers

1805
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 2: finally signed with The Pittsburgh steelers this, week just the

1806
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 2: other day put his name on the. Contract it does

1807
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: bring maybe some resolution to one of the biggest and

1808
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 2: most drawn out storylines of the season thus. Far and

1809
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 2: it doesn't rule and change the fact that The steelers

1810
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: have been in this drama. Situation and really and truly

1811
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: you mentioned That Mike tomlin. THING i don't Picture Mike

1812
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: tomlin With Aaron, rodgers But i'm thinking, maybe just Maybe

1813
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: Mike thomlin's coming to the end of his career and

1814
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 2: he's gonna, say you know, WHAT i don't care. Anymore

1815
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 2: this is It i'm Putting i'm hitching my wagon Too Aaron.

1816
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: Rodgers hopefully we can go as far as we can with,

1817
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 2: him and Then i'm gonna call it a career BECAUSE

1818
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: i don't Think Mason rudolph's gonna take me as far

1819
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: As Aaron rodgers would take.

1820
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 4: ME i, mean there's probably some truth to that that

1821
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 4: he's just trying to figure out what's the best way

1822
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 4: to operate in this, space you. Know and so With

1823
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 4: Aaron rodgers been a guy who has has won and

1824
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 4: maybe he's comfortable with. Him, look we've seen it of,

1825
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,040
Speaker 4: late he's tried to win with the, retreats. RIGHT i

1826
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 4: had to do it last year With.

1827
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson Justin fields swapped those guys.

1828
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 4: Out and then you bring In Aaron rodgers and see

1829
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 4: if you can find a way to get to the

1830
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 4: magic number to win enough games to get into the

1831
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 4: postseason and maybe win a game or.

1832
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 3: Two it's just been a long time since The stillers have.

1833
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 4: Won and Then Aaron, rodgers, LOOK i can deem, him

1834
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 4: AND i can talk about how poorly he has played

1835
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 4: of late four TIME, MVP a guy who certainly knows

1836
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 4: how to. Win maybe his biggest contributions come less with

1837
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: his right arm and more with his mind and his

1838
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 4: ability to convey to a young. Team these are the

1839
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 4: things that we must do to win at the highest,

1840
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 4: level you.

1841
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: Know, HONESTLY i read this the other day AND i was.

1842
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 2: Shocked his statistics last, Year Aaron rodgers are very similar

1843
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 2: To Josh. Allen's they really weren't that far. Apart he

1844
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 2: had five more ants Than Josh, allen but still in

1845
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 2: old the yards passed four and things like. That on

1846
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 2: a bad, team his stats were almost parallel To Josh.

1847
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: ALLEN i still think there's some guests left in the

1848
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: tank With Aaron, RODGERS i really.

1849
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: DO i don't know how much gas is left in the.

1850
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 4: TANK i mean he made shore enough flash every now and,

1851
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 4: then like he's on life, support so you might get

1852
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 4: a bleep every now.

1853
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 3: And, then but then he's gonna go right back to

1854
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 3: what it is.

1855
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 4: Now the stillness thing can't support him by taking a

1856
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 4: lot of the responsibility off of his.

1857
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 3: Shoulder strong running.

1858
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 4: Game he have one of the better defenses that he's ever,

1859
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 4: Had so maybe he doesn't have To he doesn't need

1860
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 4: to feel the. Pressure, HEY i gotta put twenty eight,

1861
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 4: points so he forced his. THINGS i can win with twenty.

1862
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 4: TWO i can win with twenty four points those, Things

1863
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,959
Speaker 4: so that changes the, equation changes the, math changes.

1864
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 3: How you call it the.

1865
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 4: Game he just needs to play within. Himself he's gonna

1866
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 4: avoid the turnover more than. Likely that's that's enough to

1867
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 4: give them a.

1868
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 2: Chance all, Right, now here's the. Deal everybody was saying, that,

1869
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: oh he waited so long to come to camp and

1870
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: this and, that and then he came back the other

1871
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,560
Speaker 2: day and he, said, well you, know he had some.

1872
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 2: PROBLEM i think some friend or relative at cancer and you,

1873
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: know it's a personal thing they want to talk. About.

1874
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: It to, me the timing doesn't bother me as much

1875
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i remember When Brett fav went to The Minnesota.

1876
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: Vikings he signed with them In, august you, know and

1877
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: he did rather well that. Year SO i don't think

1878
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: it means that, much do. YOU i, mean so he

1879
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: drew it. OUT i mean he's gonna go to training

1880
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: camp and everything's gonna be.

1881
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 3: Fine, Yeah, LOOK i think everything will eventually be.

1882
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 4: Fine he did drag it, out and it's one of

1883
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 4: the things that you have to know when you get

1884
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 4: involved with this.

1885
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 3: Player you have to know what it's gonna look.

1886
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna have some, Drama you're gonna have some

1887
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 4: shoulders that you need to rub to make sure he feels,

1888
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 4: okay all this other, Stuff and that's why it's important

1889
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 4: that you do the background research on everybody so you

1890
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 4: know exactly who's coming into your locker room and how

1891
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 4: you need to handle, them so you can make those

1892
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 4: plans well in. Advance that's Why i'm, surprised just you

1893
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 4: know that it's taken this. Long but then there's a

1894
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 4: part of me it's, like, No i'm not A Saron.

1895
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 4: Broder this is always gonna take a long time to

1896
01:26:59,240 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 4: get this stuff.

1897
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: Right, right it's, Over we'll see what happens to see

1898
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 2: if he even talks to the media this. Week, Okay

1899
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 2: so rather than, duel dwell On Aaron rodgers and we'll

1900
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 2: get back to them. Momentarily the big LOSER i think

1901
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: in this scenario is going to be and Is Kirk,

1902
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: cousins because he still remains on the contract with The Atlanta.

1903
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 2: Falcons they've been back and forth with a, contract and

1904
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: we'll see what. Happens they thought they were going to break.

1905
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,919
Speaker 2: Up they're still. Together who, knows but everybody Thought cousins

1906
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 2: might be the guy going To. Pittsburgh what happens now

1907
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 2: With Kirk, COUSINS i think they really want to part

1908
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: with this guy because there's ten million dollars on the table.

1909
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: There so what's the options here For Kirk. Cousins what

1910
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: does he do and what does he?

1911
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 3: Go wait for an injury to happen in training. Camp

1912
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 3: that's the best thing For Kirk.

1913
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 4: Cousins he just has to wait and see if any

1914
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 4: starting quarterback goes down and that creates an opportunity for

1915
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 4: him to go and. Play right, Now, look the dance

1916
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 4: guard is full for, everybody and so he just has

1917
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 4: to patiently. Wait he has to make sure he stays in,

1918
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 4: shape does all the stuff that he needs to, do

1919
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 4: and they kind of go about his business in that.

1920
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 3: Regard but let me say, This Kirk cousins didn't play.

1921
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 3: Well that's.

1922
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 4: Year so we can talk About Kirk cousins and act

1923
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 4: like he's that unicorn that's gonna come and save the,

1924
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 4: day much like.

1925
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 3: We talked about with these older.

1926
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks but he didn't play, well didn't look, great and

1927
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 4: it's gonna be problematic for him when it comes to

1928
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 4: getting a job BECAUSE i don't know if he can come.

1929
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 4: Back you, know remember he had that achilles injury. TOO

1930
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 4: i don't know if he can come back and play

1931
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 4: at a high.

1932
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: Level Oh i'll tell you. What falcons may have to

1933
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 2: eat that ten million dollar. Contract but we'll see what happens.

1934
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Here it Was indianapolis now When Anthony richardson could be

1935
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 2: on the sholf with that. Shoulder what happens is are

1936
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: The colts in play perhaps For Kirk, cousins.

1937
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 3: Well depending on the price.

1938
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 4: Tag But Kirk cousins And Danny, Jones Daniel, JONES i,

1939
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 4: mean maybe you, know you just don't, Know like we

1940
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 4: don't know how Long Anthony richardson is gonna be. Out but,

1941
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 4: YEAH i mean there's gonna be some opportunity of. These

1942
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 4: it's a matter Of kirk deciding which one is the

1943
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 4: best one for, Him like how does he how does

1944
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 4: he navigate, it what does he do those things to

1945
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: put himself in the best the best position to kind

1946
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 4: of maximize it and take advantage of what's what's available

1947
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 4: out there for.

1948
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 2: Him, okay there's two other teams perhaps now according TO

1949
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: o T a activity and what they're saying C. J,

1950
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 2: stroud he's got some soreness in his, shoulder maybe a

1951
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 2: backup there In houston, PERHAPS.

1952
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: I mean that that could be a situation.

1953
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 5: For.

1954
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 4: Him LIKE i think all these things you have to

1955
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 4: you have to, monitor you, know and see is there

1956
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 4: is there a good. SITUATION i just know that no

1957
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 4: team is gonna pull the trigger at the price tag.

1958
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 3: Right now with what The Atlanta falcons are on the hook.

1959
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 4: For they will wait for him to get cut or

1960
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 4: removed or whatever The falcons do in terms of picking

1961
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 4: up part of the salary or whatever they.

1962
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 3: Decide but, yeah no, one no one's gonna take him

1963
01:29:59,160 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 3: at that.

1964
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 2: Note because the, Production, yeah it'll be a contract with,

1965
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 2: incentives an incentive laden, Contract i'm. Sure but there's a

1966
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 2: possibility that With New orleans now because there are a car's,

1967
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 2: gone so maybe he goes To New. Orleans SO i

1968
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,480
Speaker 2: think there's a couple of teams out there with. Possibilities

1969
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 2: but you see the way for an, injury that's what

1970
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 2: gonna do it wait for an injury and then there he.

1971
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: Goes so we. See So Aaron, Rodgers now here's the big.

1972
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 2: Question Does Aaron rodgers make This stealers? Better OBVIOUSLY i

1973
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 2: gotta believe this. Guy he is an upgrade For, mason

1974
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: AND i feel a bit For Mason. Rudolph he's an

1975
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: upgrade For Mason. Rudolf BUT i Thought mason would get

1976
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: his chance NOW i really. Did and he's gotta be

1977
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 2: really p, o don't you. THINK i, mean you, know

1978
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 2: people on The Pittsburgh steelers to a man in that

1979
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 2: locker room right, NOW a they're probably happy this drama

1980
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 2: is allver one way or the. Other b there's gotta

1981
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 2: be some excitement there saying, that you, know we Got Aaron,

1982
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 2: rodgers maybe we could do. Something but See Mason rudolf, saying,

1983
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: man it could have been my, team and Now i'm.

1984
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: SCREWED i mean.

1985
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 4: Could have been, yeah But i'm sure they kind of

1986
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 4: kept in the, loop you, know you knew what he

1987
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 4: was dealing.

1988
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 3: With and, look he has be ready to go because

1989
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 3: he's a play away from me and the starting.

1990
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 4: Quarterback so regardless of however he goes, down he's a

1991
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 4: play away from me and the starting, quarterback and he

1992
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 4: has to prepare like. That we have to see how

1993
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 4: much the offense changes now That Aaron rodgers comes. In

1994
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 4: do they change and run To Aaron rodgers offense or

1995
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 4: do they run the offense that they've.

1996
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 3: Been working on the last two years On Arthur.

1997
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 2: Smith all, Right Pittsburgh, steelers right, Now Aaron. Rodgers they

1998
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 2: have twenty one seasons without a losing record since two

1999
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: thousand and. Four all, right last eighteen Under Mike. Tomlin

2000
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 2: this is a pretty good. Deal. Now the one guy

2001
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 2: that's going to be jumping for joy right now For

2002
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,799
Speaker 2: Aaron rodgers is The Pro bowl receiver OF Dk, Metcalf

2003
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 2: so he's gonna. Help he's gonna Help Aaron. Rodgers we'll

2004
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 2: see what. Happens they got a guy that could really

2005
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 2: get them into the red. Zone so we'll see what

2006
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: happens over. There as far as the, negatives right, now

2007
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 2: four of The steelers five offensive line starters either just

2008
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 2: finished their first or second year in THE. Nfl could

2009
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: be a rough goal of If Aaron rodgers taking snaps

2010
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 2: and running for his, life that's All i'm, saying is a.

2011
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: Possibility i'm sure he's seen. That but what other choice

2012
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: does he?

2013
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 3: Have right he doesn't really have. One you, know you

2014
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 3: just got to get a roll with. It you don't

2015
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 3: have any. Choices you got to make the best of

2016
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 3: the situation and see what it looks like in the.

2017
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 4: End this is, common you, know but the best, players

2018
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 4: the best coaches come try and figure it out on the.

2019
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 3: Run this opportunity for us to see his.

2020
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 2: Greatness, okay last, year according to statistics in THE, nfl

2021
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh steelers gave up a quarterback pressure rate of

2022
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 2: thirty eight point six, percent which was the fourth highest

2023
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 2: in the entire. League so we'll see what happens over.

2024
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 2: THERE i, mean, again he got The achilles. Tear maybe

2025
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 2: he's coming back right. Now people have always said that

2026
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 2: you usually have more success the year after the second

2027
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 2: year after that, operation which would be this. Year so

2028
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 2: we'll see if he comes. Back it's gonna be great

2029
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,879
Speaker 2: to see because he's got some games on the schedule

2030
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 2: that could really mean. Something he's got The jets the

2031
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 2: first game of the Year september. Seven he's playing Green

2032
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: bay this. Year so let's talk about the legacy possibility

2033
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 2: Of Aaron. Rodgers what happens?

2034
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 4: THERE i mean legacy? Cemented, right he's the all time.

2035
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 4: Great we, know we know he's gonna be A hall

2036
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 4: Of fame. Player he won A Super bowl in Green

2037
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 4: bay that put him. There that puts him. There it's

2038
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 4: just a matter of he's he gonna be regarded as

2039
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 4: the elite of the. Elite so are we going to

2040
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 4: talk about with the reference that we talk About Tom?

2041
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 4: Brady Because Tom brady was able to go From New

2042
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 4: england To tampa and win the. Title Ken Aaron rodgers

2043
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 4: do that because if he does, that data gets removed

2044
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 4: some of the stench around his, name because we have

2045
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 4: to respect him for being able to elevate others to

2046
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 4: take them to the next, level something that he hasn't

2047
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 4: been able to do throughout his career In Green bay

2048
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 4: and then went To.

2049
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 3: Jets it's.

2050
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 2: AMAZING i, mean here's a stat that's really worth mentioning right.

2051
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 2: Now if he could win one More Super, bowl he

2052
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 2: will Join manning And brady as the only quarterbacks ever

2053
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 2: to win at least three league MVPs and Two Super. Bowls,

2054
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 2: that as you say With samantha's, place is a top

2055
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 2: five BACK nfl history for first time Ballot hall Of.

2056
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 2: Fame but there's no doubt about. That so he's in

2057
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: there right. There you, KNOW i just don't see. WELL

2058
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 2: i guess he's used to playing in a smaller market

2059
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: Like Green. Bay But, PITTSBURGH i, mean he may get

2060
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 2: some heat with the fan base In pittsburgh did kind

2061
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 2: of rabbit fans over. There AND i want to see

2062
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 2: him in that. DIVISION i, mean he's going against some

2063
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 2: great quarterbacks in that. Division we'll see him twice Against Joe.

2064
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 2: Burrow it's gonna be. GREAT i, mean it's gonna be

2065
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 2: the old timer against the new. Time In lamar is

2066
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 2: gonna be in that. Division he's gonna play Against Joe.

2067
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 2: Burrow it's gonna be really. Good to be a tight.

2068
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 2: Race And i'd like to see him do, WELL i really.

2069
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: DO i mean it'd be a great. Storyline you, know

2070
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 2: see what?

2071
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 4: Happens what do YOU i mean the great thing about THE,

2072
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 4: nfl they are always, Storylines they're always. THINGS i, MEAN

2073
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 4: i don't expect a. LOT i, MEAN i expect him

2074
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 4: to keep the ship kind of rolling. SMOOTHLY i just

2075
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 4: don't know how talented they are around, him AND i

2076
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 4: don't know how much he has. Left like it's just

2077
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 4: hard to. Predict when older people are counting on heavily.

2078
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 4: Win Father time is ultimately going to. Win we've seen

2079
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 4: parts of, that but, MAN i don't. KNOW i think

2080
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 4: you would be foolish to count him being Vintage. ROGERS

2081
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 4: i think what you hope is at his, best.

2082
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 3: He can be a high end game manager who flashes

2083
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 3: the ability to close out games when they're hanging in the.

2084
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 3: Ballot at his, worst.

2085
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 4: He's a low end game manager that you have to

2086
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 4: protect by not really exposing him to enough a number

2087
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 4: of pass. Attempts Arthur smith have to figure that out

2088
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 4: over the first half of the. Season what is he

2089
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 4: really working with at? Quarterback because the Last Aaron rodgers

2090
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 4: that we saw not only has lost a little bit

2091
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 4: of the, touch but he also is a little more

2092
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 4: jittery in the, pocket and when old quarterbacks get to

2093
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 4: a certain, point they don't like being. Hit how does

2094
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 4: he respond to being hit when people dial up pressures

2095
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 4: where you get a free.

2096
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 3: Hitter to him and he's going to have to take the.

2097
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 4: Lick does he change his game and just start throwing

2098
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 4: quickly because he sees ghosts or does he still display

2099
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 4: the same on the courage that he did when he

2100
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 4: was playing at his prime and making big plays for The.

2101
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 2: Packers you don't like, him do? YOU i mean as an,

2102
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 2: individual that's. Okay you could you could say, THAT i.

2103
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 3: Mean i'm not a, fan but, no, no, No i'm.

2104
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 3: Not i'm not a. Fan. Okay so here's what it

2105
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 3: comes down, To.

2106
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 4: Andy, so so you talked about The Cincinnati, reds, right

2107
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 4: and you you were there with the Big red machine

2108
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 4: in terms of, like you know what it was like

2109
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 4: at his, best right With Joe, Morgan Johnny, Bench, uh you,

2110
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 4: know Thom. Sevens the way that they, operated, Right, yeah, Yeah,

2111
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 4: like but there was a way that they. Operated they

2112
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 4: had a code in terms of how they. Played they

2113
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 4: were great. Teammates WHEN i was In Green. Bay the

2114
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 4: first thing you do when you walk in the. Building

2115
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 4: everything In Green bay harkens back to When lombardy was.

2116
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 4: There they tell you it's about the. Team nobody's bigger

2117
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 4: than the. Program when you walk into the, stadium you

2118
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 4: see all those names up in the ring of, honor

2119
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 4: they tell, you nobody's bigger than the.

2120
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 3: Program you ain't one of, them so you're.

2121
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 4: Not even get the special privileges that you may get

2122
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 4: at other. Teams we're about the team. Here they were

2123
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 4: talking about. It when we're watching, tape and you may

2124
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 4: make a play and you may put a little extra

2125
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,440
Speaker 4: dance in it so you can put some spotlight.

2126
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 3: On, yourself and they were, like hey, man we don't

2127
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 3: do that.

2128
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 4: Here So Aaron rodgers to, me WHEN i watch him

2129
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 4: as a Former, packer he violated all of those things

2130
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 4: because he made it about him and not the. Team

2131
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 4: and so it's hard for, me having spent the majority

2132
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 4: of my career playing with The. Packers three of my

2133
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 4: six seasons were with The, packers to hear all, that

2134
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 4: to know how they talked about to know how they

2135
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 4: held the team with such, reverence and that he that

2136
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 4: guy is the one that has put himself above. It,

2137
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 4: YEAH i never really dug him because he runs counterculture

2138
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 4: to what was Establishing Green.

2139
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 3: Bay that's WHY i don't like him as a.

2140
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 2: Player, okay you talked about, Culture, okay and you Mentioned Green. Bay,

2141
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 2: Okay Green, bay And i'll put them in the same

2142
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 2: league as The New York, Yankees, napoles And. CELTICS i

2143
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: think they have that same kind of culture and to some,

2144
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 2: EXTENT i think The Pittsburgh steelers have. Too and then

2145
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 2: why through that question you say you don't like him

2146
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 2: because that culture has kind of been rocked a little

2147
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: bit By Aaron. Rodgers BECAUSE i Think Mike tomlin has

2148
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 2: kind of kept that culture At. Bay and when you

2149
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 2: talk about only three coaches ever to ever coach that

2150
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 2: team in the entire history of that, franchise there's a

2151
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 2: culture that goes very you, know it just goes, through

2152
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: through and through and. Through and they have Those Super

2153
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: bowls and they know. That And i'm sure when you

2154
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 2: walk into the locker room In, pittsburgh WHICH i never,

2155
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:31,600
Speaker 2: have they have that. Culture and he's kind of disrupted

2156
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 2: that he really, has and that could disrupt the team.

2157
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 6: It.

2158
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 4: Is and BECAUSE i know some people In new, ORGANIZATION

2159
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 4: i haven't talked to him about this. Situation BUT i

2160
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 4: know how they feel about the, stealers and they talk, about,

2161
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 4: man this guy is a.

2162
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:47,560
Speaker 3: Stealer they talk about.

2163
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:51,679
Speaker 4: Like certain characteristics and qualities that stealers have and exhibit,

2164
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 4: toughness you, know like a ferocity and.

2165
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 3: Intensity they play with, violence they do all. That but

2166
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 3: they're great. Teammates all of those things that were established.

2167
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:05,919
Speaker 4: When Chuck no was, there Because Green bay And pittsburgh

2168
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 4: are very, Similar like they harken back to those glory,

2169
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,799
Speaker 4: days right so and The stillers it's the Seventies stillers

2170
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 4: and how they dominated to, steal curtain all those. Things,

2171
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 4: look they haven't changed their, uniform they haven't done. Anything

2172
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 4: like everything to them is like a. Throwback, WELL i

2173
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 4: don't know If Aaron rodgers is a throwback type In.

2174
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh can he embrace the history and the tradition and

2175
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 4: the culture that's been established.

2176
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 3: THERE i don't, know you know What i'm.

2177
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 4: Saying AND i know like there were some leeways and

2178
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 4: some things that were given To Ben roethlisberger at the

2179
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 4: end of his, career but they they've gotten away from

2180
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 4: some of those things that were really good for The

2181
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 4: steelers in terms of like traditional. Things but, look it's

2182
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 4: our Disputing AND i know people make the kind of

2183
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 4: laugh at the toimeland the winning thing or.

2184
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 3: Whatever like he has an.

2185
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 4: ENEMY i just wonder how Does Aaron rodgers fit in

2186
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 4: that locker? Room does he really like take a step

2187
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 4: back from an ego standpoint and, say hey, MAN i

2188
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 4: just want to blend in and be a good.

2189
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 3: TEAMMATE i just want TO i want to do whatever

2190
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 3: they need from.

2191
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 4: Me from a leadership, standpoint from a playing, standpoint it's

2192
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 4: not about me and my individual. Stuff it's about me

2193
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 4: being a part of the team and seeking something better

2194
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 4: that will make everybody.

2195
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 3: LEGENDARY i don't know if he has that in them.

2196
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 2: Right and you know what's, funny you, know the inner

2197
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 2: workings of the team and the team morale and what

2198
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: the team can get from a. Player to, ME i

2199
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 2: never lived In, pittsburgh BUT i look At pittsburgh as

2200
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 2: a blue collar, town a hard working, town people working

2201
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 2: for their, money you, know with smoke stock, town the

2202
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 2: steel mills and things like. That AND i don't know

2203
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 2: if they could accept a guy Like aaron Rodg it's

2204
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 2: gonna be funny with look when he changes, everything when

2205
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 2: he does it, all you, know they come out there

2206
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 2: and go three and, oh he'll be a. Hero they

2207
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 2: go out, there oh and three he's a. Bum that's

2208
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 2: just the way it. Is that's the way sports is,

2209
01:40:58,880 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 2: right the way it is.

2210
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,560
Speaker 3: So and that's and that's and that's a big part of.

2211
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 4: IT i would, say, like, uh much like a president

2212
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 4: that comes, in how he handles those first one hundred,

2213
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 4: days the presser that he has On, Tuesday how does

2214
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 4: he set the?

2215
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 3: Tone what does he?

2216
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 4: Say can he can he ingratiate himself to The pittsburgh

2217
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 4: community by saying the right? Things does he ingratiate himself

2218
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 4: to the? Teammates do they believe that he's? All then onto,

2219
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 4: that because remember you Heard Darius slay talk about, like,

2220
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 4: man at some, point you got to come in and

2221
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 4: get this. Work if you're gonna be a part of the,

2222
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 4: team how you're gonna lead the team when you're not

2223
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 4: around the team that matters in.

2224
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 3: The quarterback is the most important.

2225
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 4: Position SO i understood that he was dealing with family

2226
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 4: stuff and all that, like AND i can respect, that

2227
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 4: but the quarterback has to be. Around and so for

2228
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 4: the quarterback to come to, miniicamp didn't to go to training.

2229
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 4: Camp that's not really enough time to build yourself into

2230
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 4: being the leader of the.

2231
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 3: Team like that's that's a hard.

2232
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 4: Situation you gotta be, there you gotta go through some

2233
01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 4: stuff together so they can earn your.

2234
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 3: TRUST i just don't know how it. Works, yeah it's

2235
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 3: a higher. GUN i don't know if that. Works.

2236
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 2: Well you're exactly, Right but time will. Tell i'm sure

2237
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 2: eyes and ears will be all over that place In

2238
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 2: pittsburgh And, Latroll pennsylvania when they go to training. Camp,

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Speaker 5: Sunday good, Morning good. MORNING i listen to you guys

2284
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 5: Every sunday, morning.

2285
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 2: And you're the.

2286
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 1: One you are the, one.

2287
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 5: And, Buddy i've been following you for a long, time,

2288
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 5: sir AND i really appreciate your. Input And i'm really

2289
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 5: with you BECAUSE i know When Aaron rodgers got The

2290
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 5: pittsburgh he got his first shot when they told him

2291
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 5: we don't hand out the number twelve Because Terry, branshaw

2292
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 5: he's won Four Super Bowl championships for this. Franchise you're

2293
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 5: just walking, in, dude we don't even know. You AND

2294
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 5: i want to just touch on one. THING i could

2295
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 5: respect somebody, saying you, know they had a, problem you,

2296
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 5: know in the, family outside of the, family but what

2297
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 5: it WAS i saw him like maybe two weeks ago ON.

2298
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 5: Tv he was looking real comfortable laughing at it. Up

2299
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 5: when all all the lap dogs sitting around and you're gonna,

2300
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,879
Speaker 5: sign and you're gonna, sign you, know me and, MYSELF

2301
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 5: i would be, Like, heywood hey, man you can either

2302
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 5: be here or not Because i'm gonna steal a fan

2303
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 5: from the. Seventies you, KNOW i remember The Jack, Ham Jack.

2304
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 5: Lambert they ll See Green, Wood me And Joe green

2305
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 5: and the Rest Donny shield and none of them guys

2306
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 5: would have been waiting around For Anne. Rogers they would have,

2307
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,600
Speaker 5: said we don't need, him go ahead And drift should do.

2308
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 5: It y'all have a Great, Sunday and thanks for taking my.

2309
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 2: Call, Man thank you for. Listening, Wayne thank you so.

2310
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 2: Much what do you think about that? Book what do

2311
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 2: you think about the dealers not waiting?

2312
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 4: Around, WELL i, LOOK i Think wayne is onto something, Like,

2313
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 4: look they shouldn't wait around like The pittsburgh still.

2314
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 3: Is you don't have to wait around On Aaron. Rodgers

2315
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 3: he doesn't command that kind of.

2316
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,799
Speaker 4: Cachet where you do that, like so they've already created

2317
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 4: this situation where they're acquiescing to his knees and demands

2318
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 4: as opposed to setting it firm, like, no, no, no

2319
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 4: this is the, team this is what we, do and

2320
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 4: you have to meet us at our level as opposed

2321
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 4: to us meeting them. There so we'll see if they

2322
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 4: can change and kind of get it. Established BUT i

2323
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 4: don't necessarily love the way that it started so.

2324
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 2: Far, okay let me play The devil's avoct for a.

2325
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 2: SECOND i mean way maybe correct on. That say, hey

2326
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 2: we don't wait, around but there's got to be a

2327
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 2: contingented players on The. Steelers say wait a, minute we've

2328
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 2: got To Aaron. Rodgers he's got to be a step

2329
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 2: up To Mason. Rudolph but don't you think gives us

2330
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 2: a better chance to? Win perhaps.

2331
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 3: Maybe a little, bit but you still got to be

2332
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 3: the right.

2333
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 4: Teammate like there's some guys THAT i promise you would

2334
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:58,560
Speaker 4: rather go to war With Mason rudolph because they know

2335
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 4: he's all in on being a. State like there is

2336
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 4: something to that part of the equation that we haven't talked.

2337
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 4: About like it's about wanting to be a, stealer like

2338
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 4: wanting to embrace all the things that come along with.

2339
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 3: That AND i shouldn't have to convince, you, man you

2340
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 3: need to come, here because this would be great for.

2341
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 4: You you should already, know given what our franchise, means

2342
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:20,799
Speaker 4: the history of our franchise and all of that. Stuff

2343
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 4: SO i, LOOK i do feel a certain kind of

2344
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 4: way when it comes to that part of, It BUT

2345
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 4: i also, understand Like Aaron rodgers Is Aaron, rodgers and

2346
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 4: he's earned some of that. Stuff BUT i think if

2347
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 4: you're The, stillers you just got to be careful about

2348
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 4: giving him too much, power too much juice to kind

2349
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 4: of operate however he wants to.

2350
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 2: Operate and you, look The stealers wanted him and they.

2351
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 2: Waited And i'll tell you WHY i say, That. Biggles

2352
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 2: you remember there was some talk he going to The.

2353
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Giants The giants didn't wait. Around they drafted a. Quarterback

2354
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 2: they got their quarterbacks right. Now they didn't wait For

2355
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 2: Aaron rodgers say, look we're. Interested do you want to do,

2356
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 2: It let's do it. Now if not with the draft,

2357
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 2: king they drafted a. Quarterback so they just moved. On

2358
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 2: steelers didn't move. On they. Waited they wanted. Him there

2359
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 2: was and it wasn't so. MUCH i don't think there's so, Much.

2360
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 2: TOMLIN i think it Was Arthur rooney the second he's

2361
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 2: the one that kept on talking publicly that he Wanted Aaron.

2362
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 2: Rodgers it was him that Wanted so we'll.

2363
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 4: See yeah maybe SO i mean that that that MIGHT

2364
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 4: i mean that probably is true to. Me is you

2365
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 4: got to be careful, Though, yeah you just got to

2366
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 4: be careful when you when you, do be.

2367
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 2: Aware as you, said, now here's the story of the.

2368
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 2: Day but as we say that for the Last, okay

2369
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 2: after months of, deliberation The house versus the N cuba

2370
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 2: settlement was approved On friday, night paving the way for

2371
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 2: athletes pay In division. One and obviously this could be

2372
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 2: a new era of college. SPORTS i say it is

2373
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 2: kind of like THE nfl right, Now Starting july, first

2374
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 2: All division one, schools All division one schools will be

2375
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 2: able to directly pay players for the first time IN

2376
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 2: nc DOUBLE a. History, okay what does.

2377
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 3: This mean right?

2378
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 2: Now good for athletes for. Sure that makes even more

2379
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 2: of a division lit between the haves and the have. Nots,

2380
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 2: Look yukon has a football. Team, yeah believe it or,

2381
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 2: not they. Do it's all basketball in that. School how

2382
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 2: does yukon't? Compete how does the school Like toledo compete

2383
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 2: with The Ohio States they couldn't do it, Now they'll

2384
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 2: never be able to do it now by PAYING i

2385
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 2: just don't think it's gonna does any good for the

2386
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: landscape of college.

2387
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 4: Football it makes it, look it makes it makes it

2388
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 4: challenging to a, point right in terms of like trying

2389
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 4: to get done what you want to get. Done you,

2390
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 4: know at some, level depending on how much money your

2391
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 4: school is willing to commit to the. Program but if

2392
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 4: you're one of those teams who's all, in who they

2393
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 4: have the money in the, backing it's gonna be. GREAT

2394
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 4: i saw the, president but the new chancellor FOR ucla

2395
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 4: talking about the importance of athletics as it relates to

2396
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 4: increasing and heightening the profile of the. School so the

2397
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 4: haves and the have nots will take the, halves will

2398
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 4: take advantage of. It the have nots they have to

2399
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 4: make hard decisions on where do they want to live and.

2400
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,679
Speaker 4: Exist you, know it's, look, man.

2401
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 3: It's a tough.

2402
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 4: Situation but for the, players, yeah the players to get

2403
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 4: paid and those, THINGS i just hope some stipulations are

2404
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 4: put in place to protect, them not necessarily, monetarily but

2405
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 4: in terms of their ability and their willingness to go

2406
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 4: and leave college with a degree because to, me that's

2407
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 4: important because everyone's gonna blow through whatever cash they, Get,

2408
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 4: like no few are gonna be wise enough savvy enough

2409
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 4: to parlay that money and to long term success when

2410
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 4: it comes to. That money helped me leverage myself to

2411
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 4: get a, house, started business or.

2412
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Whatever so can you at least walk away college with

2413
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 3: a degree while you have some cash while you're.

2414
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Playing, okay LOOK i get. It athletes now could finally

2415
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 2: get a cut of the billions billions with it be

2416
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 2: billions of dollars broadcast revenue they help to. Generate there's

2417
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 2: no doubt about. That there's no place on earth where

2418
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 2: a worker does not get compensated for what he. Does

2419
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 2: and these guys basically work because you, know you've been,

2420
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 2: there done. That you know to have a full time

2421
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 2: schedule of fifteen hours of classes perhaps twelve to fifteen,

2422
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 2: hours and practice with film sessions and. Workouts it's. Tough

2423
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 2: you should get. Paid and obviously you do a lot

2424
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 2: as an athlete for the. School you increase, enrollment you increase,

2425
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 2: visibility you help sell, merchandise you help. Admissions you do

2426
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 2: a lot as an, athlete so you should get. Paid

2427
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 2: but the point is, this there are schools they're going

2428
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,639
Speaker 2: to get paid a lot more than. Others i've seen

2429
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 2: schools now falling by the. Wayside what DO i mean by?

2430
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 2: That Saint Francis university In, Loretto pennsylvania was A division one.

2431
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,639
Speaker 2: School they now have dropped now To DIVISION. Iii they can't.

2432
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: Compete they had A division one football. Program they. Compete

2433
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 2: Saint Francis college At, brooklyn WHERE i, WORKED i worked

2434
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 2: as a division they didn't have, football they Had division one.

2435
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 2: Basketball they dropped all their, sports dropped them all AND

2436
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 2: i worked there for a. While so it's, happening and

2437
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 2: we're going to see more and more of, that BECAUSE

2438
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:54,799
Speaker 2: i just don't think the also rands. Becool the smaller

2439
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 2: schools cannot. Compete in the area WHERE i. Live right,

2440
01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 2: now you got Two division one. Schools you Got Ja,

2441
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 2: university and you've got The university Of. Cincinnati Since i's

2442
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,799
Speaker 2: in The big, Twelve xavior's in The Big. East xavier

2443
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 2: profit by that because why they don't have, football so

2444
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 2: all the money will be generated going to. Basketball cincinnati

2445
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 2: Is gonulda be tough for. Them it really will.

2446
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 6: Be.

2447
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 2: Now they also have on the other side of the,

2448
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 2: River Northern Kentucky, university which Is division, One BUT i

2449
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 2: don't know if they could handle the competition you, know

2450
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 2: in The Horizon league as you see The university Of

2451
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 2: cincinnati does in The Big. Twelve it's. Tough there's a big,

2452
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 2: separation AND i don't know if that's healthy for the.

2453
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 3: Game, YEAH i. CAN'T i can't say THAT i believe

2454
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 3: that it's healthy for the, game you know WHAT i? Mean,

2455
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,600
Speaker 3: LIKE i think it's a situation.

2456
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 4: Where, teams not, teams but presidents have to figure out

2457
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 4: what's really important to.

2458
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 3: Them where do they want to? Exist do they want

2459
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 3: to play with the big?

2460
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:56,600
Speaker 4: Boys are they content to have an extracurricular, activity but

2461
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 4: they're not Willing they're not going to dole out the

2462
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,680
Speaker 4: big bucks to make it right to. ME i think

2463
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 4: that's the decision that has to be, made, Like, hey

2464
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 4: we're okay living in our. Bubble we're okay playing at

2465
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 4: a lord level to give these student athletes the opportunity to,

2466
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 4: compete but we're not going to put all of our

2467
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 4: resources into being a top Tier division one powerful.

2468
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 3: Program there you.

2469
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 2: Go i'll leave you with. THIS antaa President Charlie bakers

2470
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 2: Said friday night it was an exciting, moment an exciting

2471
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 2: move for everybody in college. Sports he's a. Fool just,

2472
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 2: On i'm gonna say he's a. Fool it's not an exciting.

2473
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 2: Moment it's exciting moon for athletes and big time schools

2474
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 2: because they're gonna get paid for everybody, ELSE i don't,

2475
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 2: Think so we move. On all. Right He's Bucky. Brooks

2476
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm Andy. Firman we Have Fox Sports sunday And Fox Sports.

2477
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 2: Radio now now it's the time to point. Fingers the

2478
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: blame game is freaking. Next all, right the blame game

2479
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,719
Speaker 2: coming right. Up he Is Bucky. Brooks I'm Andy firmer

2480
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 2: With Fox Sports sunday And Fox Sports. Radio we're live

2481
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 2: for The Fox Sports radio. Studios and by the, way

2482
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 2: top of the, hour about twelve minutes from now on

2483
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 2: nine o'clock on The East coast count Down Brian, No Jeff,

2484
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 2: schwartz And Bill krackelberger don't miss it nine am right

2485
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,719
Speaker 2: here On Fox Sports. Radio and before we get, Rolling,

2486
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,759
Speaker 2: brianna you did a wonderful. Job thank you for filling

2487
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 2: in for our. Guy and uh what we, Say we'll

2488
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 2: see you down the. Road i'm sure of. It right,

2489
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 2: now let's play The blaine.

2490
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: Game you ruin. Me it's all your. Fault, no it's your.

2491
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 1: Fault what it's all your?

2492
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 6: Fault maybe it's everyone's, faults the.

2493
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: Liar that's why there's the blame. Game let's figure out

2494
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 1: who to.

2495
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 2: Blame, Okay, brianna let's do It.

2496
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 8: Alrighty so THE Nba finals had no logo on the,

2497
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 8: court no solid post, game no pregame player.

2498
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 7: Intros like we talked, about who do you? Blame Andy.

2499
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 2: EUROPE i blame perhaps partially THE nba, office but also

2500
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 2: the arena In Oklahoma. CITY i, mean come, on, really

2501
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 2: you gotta get this. Done this is your showcase, event

2502
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 2: it's your. EVENT i mean THE nhl they Have stanley

2503
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 2: cover written all over the. Place they don't say it's

2504
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 2: THE Nhl. Finals they say they're going for The Stanley.

2505
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 2: Cup do they say they're going for The larry O'Brien. Finals,

2506
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 2: no no one even knows this A larry O'Brian. Trophy

2507
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 2: bad bad look for THE, Nba.

2508
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah real bad look for THE nba and just the

2509
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 4: presentation of the. Game this is The, Finals this should

2510
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 4: be a big. Deal whether you put the signage on

2511
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 4: the floor or, not doesn't, matter but you've got to

2512
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 4: give it a little more, life a little, more a little.

2513
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 9: Disappointing, Alrighty So i'm, Fighting, okay all right, THERE i mean, yeah, yeah.

2514
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 8: Alrighty so, fighting racial and insults continue in the W.

2515
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 8: Nba who do you, Blame, Bucky.

2516
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 3: LOOK i would say it's the.

2517
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 4: Casuals it's To johnny Cum lately, fans because they're not

2518
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 4: the HARDCORE wnba fans that are a part of.

2519
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 3: This AND i think.

2520
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 4: Because the N, wnba particularly The Kaitlyn clark Andl, reese

2521
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 4: has brought in so many different dynamics of people due

2522
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 4: to the racially charged nature of two, players one, black one,

2523
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 4: white competing to be the best player first in college

2524
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 4: din in the pros is this.

2525
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 3: Created a lot of other stuff that is unnecessary in THE. Wnba,

2526
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 3: Well i'll go.

2527
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 2: One step, further Because, BUCK i know you're talking about the,

2528
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 2: fans the casual, FANS i mean these lunatics and the

2529
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 2: drunks that are doing these two remarks that put it

2530
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 2: on social. Media i'm gonna go one step. Further i'm

2531
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 2: gonna SAY i think the commission needs to crap down

2532
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 2: because they did some sort of a quote INVESTIGATION i

2533
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 2: think on The Dallas wings and they said they found

2534
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 2: nothing at. All this problems is pushing this, fighting the,

2535
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 2: insults and there are some racial. REMARKS i think it's

2536
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 2: got to be cleaned. Up basketball is a beautiful. Game

2537
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 2: it's a wonderful. Game they got some super. Players and,

2538
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 2: Look indiana has won like two or three games Without

2539
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: Caitlin clark right, now and they got great. Players she's

2540
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 2: not just the entire. League she's brought them to a different.

2541
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Level BUT i think the commissioner has to step, in

2542
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 2: be a little tougher and, look you've got a great.

2543
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 2: Game you don't need decide side shows with fights and

2544
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 2: racery moms.

2545
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 3: Something and you're right about. That, yeah you're. Right i'm with.

2546
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 2: That thank, You thank you.

2547
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 8: Both All, righty A california high school track, champion was

2548
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 8: disqualified for spraying her shoes with a fire extinguisher in.

2549
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 7: Celebration who do you? Blame?

2550
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 2: Andy that's something you would, do wasn't? IT i mean really?

2551
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 2: Whoa but it's really so. FAR i mean come, ON

2552
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 2: i mean you probably think that would be something cute to,

2553
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 2: do right Is i'm gonna run real, fast win a

2554
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 2: race and go after my idol and take a fire

2555
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 2: extinguisher and blow up my shoes to show how fast

2556
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 2: and how it was in the. Track it's stupid and

2557
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 2: she was. Disqualified and you know How daddy came out

2558
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 2: to The California commission, said, well everybody liked. It you know,

2559
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: WHAT i could burn down a house and look real

2560
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 2: pretty with the colors in the. Sky everybody may like.

2561
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 2: It it's the wrong thing to. Do you don't do.

2562
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 2: That and, Again, buck you know this as an, athlete

2563
01:57:57,160 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 2: you know you don't take yourself better above everybody else

2564
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 2: in an. Event you're part of the. Event do what

2565
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 2: you gotta, do do what everybody else.

2566
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 5: Does it was.

2567
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 2: Stupid what DO i? BLAME i blame. Her even if

2568
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 2: someone told her to do.

2569
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 1: It you did.

2570
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 2: It it was stupid to.

2571
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 4: Do, Okay having been a track athlete in, COLLEGE i

2572
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 4: do understand the mindset because, track even though it's a team,

2573
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 4: sport is very, individualized and she was trying to do some.

2574
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 4: Attention there's a lot of talking and signifying and braggadocia stuff.

2575
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 3: That goes along with. It SO i understand why she did,

2576
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 3: It but she has to understand the rules of.

2577
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 4: Engagement you cannot do that stuff if it's going to

2578
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 4: put you In jeffardy being.

2579
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 3: Disqualified so ultimately she's a.

2580
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 2: Blamer oh, Great so don't you don't condone. It you

2581
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 2: say you don't understand why she did, it but you're

2582
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 2: not condoning the.

2583
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 3: Event, no, no, No i'm not condoning. It But i've seen.

2584
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 3: It i've had.

2585
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 4: People i've had people leave their shoes in my lane

2586
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 4: and leave their address because they, Said, hey when you

2587
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 4: get this shoe out of your, BOOTY i want you

2588
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 4: to be able to mail it back to, me because

2589
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 4: that's What i'm gonna.

2590
01:58:57,800 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 3: Do like stuff like.

2591
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 2: That UNTIL i didn't know it was trash talking in.

2592
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 2: TRACK i never knew that all.

2593
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 4: The, Time like all the time people Say i'm gonna

2594
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 4: put my foot so deep up in, You i'm gonna

2595
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 4: give you my address and you can mail it.

2596
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 3: Back so like there have been things that are.

2597
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 4: Done SO i, mean that's that's just a part of the,

2598
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 4: talk the, conversation like all of the other, stuff like

2599
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 4: that's the culture of track and.

2600
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 3: Field give me.

2601
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 2: One, more one more trash, Talk come, on buck on.

2602
01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 4: More, GOD i don't have ANYTHING i think like to

2603
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 4: realitate doing. That that being the, one but like the fire,

2604
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 4: extinguisher the conversation to, talk the, shades what they, wear

2605
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:40,360
Speaker 4: all the other stuff like taking your shirt off immediately after,

2606
01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 4: winning the, like all of that is just part of the.

2607
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 3: Aura of being a track. Athlete SO i love. It

2608
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 3: that's what it.

2609
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 7: Is, bucky did you have a favorite insult that you

2610
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:49,520
Speaker 7: liked to tell your?

2611
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 1: Opponents that's not that's not really my.

2612
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 2: DEAL i like, winning AND i like laughing and.

2613
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 3: SIGNIFYING i didn't do a lot of, talking BUT i

2614
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 3: do enjoy all of, that all of.

2615
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 4: That this is just kind of part of the, flare the,

2616
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 4: flare the feel for. It there's an arrogance that comes

2617
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 4: along with.

2618
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 2: It all, right bre you got anything, Else we're wrapping it.

2619
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 7: Up you're, up, Great John, guy thank, you, well.

2620
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 2: Thank, you thank you for such a great job at

2621
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 2: the spur of the. Moment it really is And god bless.

2622
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:19,560
Speaker 2: You have a great. Day we'll see everybody next. Week

2623
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 2: stay tuned for countdown right here On Fox Sports.

2624
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:23,640
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