1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Thursday July. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: If you detect a little excitement in my voice, Oh 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: boys and girls, your boy played an awesome game, series 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: of games of pickup basketball. I know that's why you're 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast. I was on fire from deep 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: straight fire, on fire. See see what I did there? Um, 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: I played to pick up basketball Wednesday was incredible. And 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: then you know, I went to watch the NBA Finals 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: game and I was expecting Chris Paul to play, you know, 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: big game. I mean, he's such a such a point 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: god g A w D all these guys slurping Chris 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: Paul for weeks Listen. I didn't expect Chris Paul to 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: vomit all over himself, basically soil his pants in front 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: of America. And the Suns lost the game in the 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: final minute, did not cover, might have lost the series, 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: and holy hell, will go into that game shortly. But 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: I do want to mention that we have a great 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: guest today, my guy, Ben Verlander, former MLB player brother 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: of Justin Verlander. Ben Verlander works with me a Fox Sports. 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: He's a twitch star. He met Otani at the All 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Star Game. Pretty exciting week for Ben Verlander. I think 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna love this. Baseball fans, we're gonna 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: we'll love it. And then, like you know, fans of 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: good stories are gonna love it. Because he talks a 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: lot about his baseball career, how he was a pitcher 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: and hitter and he wanted to do that forever and 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: then he realized he stopped doing one and then just 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: popped big time as a prospect. Interesting stuff. I think 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: if you have young kids who like sports and want 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: to do multiple positions in sports, he definitely should check 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: it out. Ben Verlander, great guy. But before we get 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals, I just need to give one 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: of these quick little like I'm not gonna go after 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Richard sure Man. I'm not really going to talk about 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: his arrest. It sounds like, and again just based off 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: multiple reports that Richard Sherman is not in a good 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: place and it sounds like he needs help. The nine 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: one one call is extremely dark. I know what the 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, the headlines say about Richard Sherman's arrest, but 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: it's if you listen to the nine one one call. 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: You listen to what Um? You know his family is 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: saying like Sherman's in a dark place. There's mention of suicide. 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it has to do with you know, 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: it's football career may come to an end. Um. I'm 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: sure some people in some corners will mention CT. We 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: just don't know enough, so I'm not going to talk 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: about it. I have a checkered history with Richard Sherman 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: and you guys, don't he block me on Twitter several 50 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: years ago after I was critical. Um, it was fair criticism, 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: but he has a trigger finger to block, so I 52 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: totally get that. Um. Obviously I thought the Jets could 53 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: use him when Salah was hired, but serious that didn't sterialized. So, UM, 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Here we are. Richard Sherman needs some help. 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to NBA Finals. You know I've 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: initially I picked the Sons in four because we thought 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: Joannes wouldn't play and said, I'm j honest, might play, 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: will be okay, Sons in five? And it's weird, be honest, 59 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: wasn't the story? In game four? He had and fourteen 60 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: and he had maybe the best NBA Finals blocks since 61 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: Lebron's chase down of Andrea Gudalagist, a tremendous play by Janice. 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: The story, of course, is Chris Middleton for the Bucks 63 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: had forty on thirty three shots. If you remember, I 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: bet on Middleton in Game three. I thought he bounced 65 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: back at home. Guy basically urinates down his leg and 66 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: I said, I'm done with Middleton. I'm done with him. 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: We'll not bet on his overs nothing. So what does 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: he do? He drops a forty piece on the Sons 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: and he was really good. But what hurt in this 70 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: game was you got forty two from d book, you 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: got nothing from Chris Paul. Okay, I'm just sick of 72 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: hearing that Chris Paul is the greatest point guard ever. 73 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Can we stop getting excited that he shredded the Nuggets 74 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: back up backcourt? Can we stop getting excited the Sun's 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: beat the Lakers after a d went down. Can we 76 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: chill with Chris Paul is the greatest after Look what 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: he did to the Clippers in Game six to clothes out. 78 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: He was amazing. Yeah, he was good. They were not. 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: The Clippers didn't have Kauai. Now the Bucks are healthy 80 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: and the trend lines are very clear for Chris Paul 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: in this series. He's old, thirty six years old. I 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: think guy's wearing down. Chris Paul started out, remember he 83 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: had forty one against the Clippers in the clothes out 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: started out this series. Are you ready? Thirty two and nine? 85 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Awesome performance, Game two, very very good, twenty three and eight. 86 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: But I saw that was the game Tory Craig got hurt. 87 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: You could tell Chris Paul played a lot of minutes 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: eight and played a lot of minutes Booker. All three 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: of them were over forty. You knew regression was coming. 90 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: Chris Paul in Game three, down to nineteen points is lowest. 91 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: So he went thirty and in game four the game 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: they needed if the Sons wanted to wrap this up 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: at home. In game five, they needed Chris Paul to 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: step up. Chris Paul had ten points, had his worst 95 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: shooting game I believe of the playoffs. He was awful, 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: five or thirteen, did not make a three pointer. I'm 97 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: sorry no. Against the Clippers in his second game back, 98 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: he shot six of twenty two. He was he was 99 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: terrible in that he was terrible and couple Clippers games Um, 100 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: he was great against the Nuggets. But let's be real, 101 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: Chris Paul. Maybe he's tired, but he had five turnovers, 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: including a brutal cough up in the final minute. UM, listen, 103 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, five buckets, five turnovers, He's the reason the 104 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: Sons choked that lead away. Okay, I mean I could 105 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: go deeper and say, well, Janice was incredible blocking eighton 106 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: That was just a phenomenal play. I do need to 107 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: point this out and Rob g listen. Maybe I'm salty 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: because I had the Suns plus five and they lost 109 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: by six in a game they were covering for forty 110 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: seven and a half minutes out of eight. Um. DeAndre 111 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: Ayton has been a bell weather in this series. When 112 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: he gets going the Sun's roll. When DeAndre Ayton is 113 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: kind of contained or is in foul trouble, like last game, 114 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: the Sounds aren't winning. DeAndre had six points at halftime. 115 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: He finished with six points. I Monty Williams, what are 116 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: we doing your dude? Six points for DeAndre Ayton, zero 117 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: baskets in the second half. He did have seventeen boards 118 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: five assists. But you can't just say Devin Booker take 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: us home okay. Devin Booker has never been in the 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: playoffs before this year. He's been awesome. He's a great player, 121 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: but without a doubt the Phoenix Sun's lack of bench. 122 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: Tory Craig looked okay, Cameron Johnson okay at ten points, 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: but it is ultimately a minus nine campaign like they 124 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: shortened it. Frank the Tank did not play as I 125 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: mean I've been you know, was screaming you can't play 126 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: the guy. Um, it was just listen. It was a 127 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: rough one. It's sons bench. Okay, are you ready for this? 128 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Pat Connaughton had a nice game off the Sun's bench. 129 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm just everybody's hitting. When hold on, how do you 130 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: freaking lose this game on the road? When Drew Holiday 131 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: goes four for twenty and you still can't win four 132 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: for twenty? People, do you understand how bad Drew Holiday 133 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: has been in the series. This is the guy that 134 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: got specifically to win the title, and Drew Holiday has 135 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: pretty much been awful and the Suns cannot take advantage. Folks, 136 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't I feel really if you remember after Game two, 137 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: I really said this and I should have stuck with it. 138 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: I felt like the Bucks are coming back. I knew 139 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: they would. I just saw some can I say, chinks 140 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: in the armor? Is that like not a politically correct thing? 141 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Like I could see weaknesses forming, and I could see, 142 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, honest is gonna get better. You know, 143 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: Middleton was not gonna stay awful forever. But folks, I mean, 144 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, Drew Holiday is giving them nothing and they're 145 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: tied to two. Now the Suns still have home court advantage. 146 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: But I put this squarely on Chris Paul. This is 147 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: a bad loss for the Sons. You can't lead for 148 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: like forty three minutes of the game out of forty 149 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: eight and gag it away and have your point. God 150 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: just be so awful down the stretch. Devin Booker has 151 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: to be I rate, and I don't know why they're 152 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: not going to DeAndre ating. But um, rob g A 153 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: might being too hard on Chris Paul. No, not at all, 154 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: Not at all. I mean, Chris Paul had statistically his 155 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: worst stretch of games and like a decade. According to 156 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Kevin Pell and the ESPN, Chris Paul's fifteen turnover to 157 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: the last three games most in any three game stretch 158 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: in the playoffs since two thousand and twelve. Okay, the 159 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: Suns were up by nine points early in the fourth quarter. 160 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, in the fourth quarter outscored the 161 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: rest of the way. Well, Booker had five fouls, right 162 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: and and they yanked him for a minute, and that 163 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: gave the door open. But they still had control of 164 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: the game. Rob like I want to crush Chris Paul 165 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: and Monty Will. I don't know how to blame everybody. Listen, 166 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: the Bucks were at home. The Suns still have home 167 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: court advantage. I I think the Suns haven't lost at 168 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: home since it No they lost a game at home 169 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: to the to the paper Clips. I'm pretty sure that 170 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: series out and they did lose one to the Lakers 171 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: game two. Um, so it's not like they're under unbeatable 172 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: at home. Now it's the Bucks who haven't lost at home. 173 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: So if the Suns don't win Game five, that's a wrap. Yep. 174 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: And I don't want to make this too much of 175 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: a hot take, and that's not where I'm trying to 176 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: go to. But this is part of the reason why 177 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: I was telling you during the regular season that this 178 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: was all NBA first team Chris Paul, because as we've 179 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: seen in this series, especially he is their most important player. 180 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: I know Devin Booker is the best player. I know 181 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: that DeAndre Atanon is getting a lot of headlines because 182 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: he's putting up these big numbers and these big s netlines. 183 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: But as Chris Paul goes, so go the Phoenix Suns. 184 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: It's no coincidence that these last two games he's an 185 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: averaging you know, uh, what is that fifteen points a 186 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: game and five turnovers a game against you know, fifteen 187 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: assists sixteen assists that they lost both of them. Because 188 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: for all of Devin Booker's offensive abilities and he can 189 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: score with the best of them, his style of play 190 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: is not exactly making guys better, you know what I mean? 191 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: Like he can shore right, and it's not just the 192 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: way that he scores. It's like he's not known as 193 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: the guy who breaks down to defense the same way 194 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: that like a day Lillard would or even uh, you 195 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: know your guy Zach Levine would and maybe even gets 196 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: assists that way. That's just not his game. Like he 197 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: is a score He's a fantastic scorer, but he is 198 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: a scorer. And what Phoenix needs is a floor general. 199 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: What they need is somebody who's gonna make sure that 200 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: mcaal Bridges gets a few open shots a game. In 201 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: this case, he only had four total. He's got to 202 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: make sure that DeAndre Ayton is engaged the entire game 203 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: and not finishing three for nine. You know, if you 204 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: go and and Chris Paul has just not been good 205 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: the last two games, and part of it is Milwaukee's 206 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: defense because there were stretches where they put Chris Milton 207 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: on him and that length really bothered him. If you 208 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: go back and listen to the podcast earlier this week, 209 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: I mentioned the offensive rebounds as a big factor. I 210 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: don't know how you combat that. Are you guys ready 211 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: for the offensive rebound stats? Phoenix Suns five Janice five, 212 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: the Bucks seventy seventeen to five edge on the offensive 213 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: class that leads to second chance points, that sometimes needs 214 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: leads to wide open threes. You're not gonna win games 215 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, don't get me started on the turnovers, okay, 216 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: the I mean just an unbelievable defensive performance by the Bucks. 217 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Bucks? Five turnovers Phoenix Suns 218 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: Chris Paul five turnovers Sons seventeen. So you you you 219 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: lose the turnover battle you lose the offensive rebounds battle. 220 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna win that game on the road. Now, 221 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: is it officially panicked? Time for the Suns? Listen, guys, 222 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 1: they can't stop your honest right, he ate whatever he 223 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: wanted fourteen eleven or nineteen if they get anything from 224 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday, the Bucks win this in a laugher, and Folks, 225 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: the longer the series goes, you have to give the 226 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: edge to the Milwaukee Bucks, even though the Sun's have 227 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: home court advantage. You just have to wonder. This is 228 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: a game where Chris Paul thirty seven minutes, book or 229 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: thirty nine, eight and thirty nine, they threw the kitchen 230 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: sink at the Bucks. They led for most of the 231 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: game and they choked it away. And I don't think 232 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. At Middleton and Johanna's played forty 233 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: three minutes. These guys have been in playoff worse. This 234 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: is nothing new to them. And also Holiday, Middleton and 235 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: Jannat are much younger than Chris Paul. And listen, this 236 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: is DeAndre and just uncharted territory for this guy. Never 237 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: been in the playoffs, deep book, never been in the playoffs. 238 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: I I've got major concerns about the Suns. I still 239 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: can't believe the Milwaukee freaking Bucks are gonna be NBA 240 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: champions if they win the series. But it's getting closed. 241 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: It feels that way, Um, Rob, I don't know should 242 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: we even touch on the Bradley Beal situation with Team USA. 243 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: He's in health and safety protocols. I don't know what 244 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean. It's a tough scene for bradbal I mean 245 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: the not like they're not gonna have any shortage of 246 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: guys who can shoot and not pass. Shout out. Aclvine 247 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: and Devin Booker will be there in about a week 248 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: or two, so they won't miss him as much as 249 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: his name, you know, when indicated, I would just crowbar 250 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: Zak Klavina in the starting lineup and call it a day. Um, 251 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: but any rate, Sons, Bucks just got super interesting. Now 252 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: let's pivot to baseball for a really fun interview with 253 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: Ben Verlander. Jason likes to think he knows everything when 254 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: it comes to sports. I know what sports dance want, 255 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 256 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 257 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: guy he knows another guy. All Right, let's welcome into 258 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: straight fire. A guy who I work with at Fox 259 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: Sports knows baseball as well as anybody you know, And 260 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: what do they say about meeting your idol? Like there 261 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: is a saying we're gonna ask our guest today because 262 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: he just met Mr Otani at the All Star Game. 263 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: Twitch legend Ben Verlander, how are you, man? I'm man, 264 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: how are you? Thanks for having me? Man? Yeah, hey, 265 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for taking the time. I know All 266 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: Star week is a tough one. You just spent the 267 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: week in Colorado and you got to meet Otani. Like 268 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: I, I I honestly was watching it. I was like, this 269 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: is kind of cool because you've been talking about him 270 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: obviously for months, and I just talked me through it. 271 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it was. It was a pretty special week. Yeah, 272 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, it couldn't have worked out better. You know, 273 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: I've I've been talking about him, I'm sure as you've seen, 274 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: and probably even get tired of every once in a while. Um, 275 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, I I love the guy. I love everything 276 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: about what he stands for for the game of baseball, 277 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: and I've been talking about him for a long time. 278 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: So it kind of got to this point where you know, 279 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: we created a graphic from from my show and it 280 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: said the quest to meet Sho hey Otani. And then 281 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is a thing, like it's got 282 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: to happen now. So you know, I know I'm going 283 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: to the All Star Game and we get there and uh, 284 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, we kind of played it up and 285 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: it was like, we gotta we gotta make this happen. 286 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: Let's just look for him, Let's do this, Let's do this, 287 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: and then, um, I actually have become fairly not close, 288 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: but I know that angels PR people, so they they're 289 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: huge obviously and helping me figure this out. And he 290 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: was up on the on the set on the field 291 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: to day and I saw him. So I went over 292 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: there and stood close by, and I was like, oh 293 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: my god, this could happen. So the cameras are rolling 294 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: behind me. I'm like going like this, the cameras are 295 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: right behind me. I'm like, oh my god, this could happen. 296 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: And the angels PR people actually pointed at me and 297 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: called me over and said, hey, when he comes off, 298 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: we'll put him with you. Just over there, like we'll 299 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: make it happen. And that's actually how it happened. That's 300 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: how this all all ended up is they helped me 301 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: out here and we met together on the field and 302 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: shook hands, and man, I've met I've met so many 303 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: people in my life, but my heart was freaking pounding 304 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: when on him. It was incredible. Yeah, I mean, like, 305 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta say that this is the new 306 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: media right now, you know, like this is what fans 307 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: love to like follow you on your quest to meet 308 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: a guy who is like the modern day Babe Ruth 309 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: basically right, and like following it obviously the flipping bats 310 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: pod and all the stuff you're doing for Fox, Like 311 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: I think it just registered, like that's all fans want, 312 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: the traditional media model of high I'm a reporter, let 313 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: me interview this guy that's dead, right, Like they want 314 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: the Ben Verlander experience. Well, that that's exactly what I've 315 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: come to realize. And Jim magg I never knew that. 316 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: Like I was playing a few years ago. I'm I'm 317 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: fairly new and all this, so I don't exactly know. 318 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: I just know I I love this game. I love 319 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: the game of baseball. I am obviously I played at 320 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: a pretty high level. I know a lot of the guys, 321 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day. I love the 322 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: game of baseball and what I've started to realize and 323 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: gotten feedback, especially once that video was posted and I 324 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: met him, people like I legitimately had people saying like 325 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: I was watching this video like literally in tears. I 326 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: was so happy for you, and I know how much 327 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: this meant to you, and I care about this because 328 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: of you. And it's like people realize that my passion 329 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: is coming through and they're like happy for me, and 330 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: so you're a hundred percent right. It's like before the 331 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: game was portrayed, like this is what happened, and this 332 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: is what happened, and this is what happened. And now 333 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: it's like I'm a fan. I have vast knowledge of 334 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: this game. I played this game, but I love this 335 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: game just like you. And here's my experience. And I 336 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: got to meet this guy and people loved it. Man, 337 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: it really did. I gotta say for obviously forgot to 338 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: introduce you as oh yeah, he played a little bit 339 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: of baseball besides being a Twitch superstar and working at 340 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: Fox in the Flipping Bath spot, you did play some baseball. 341 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: You are related to a guy who's in the majors 342 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: right now. Um, I guess your baseball experience, like, how 343 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: how far did you go? Um, you know, high school, legend, college, 344 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: give us all that background. Yeah, so I ended up 345 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: obviously played in high school and moved on play at 346 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: a Division one college where I actually did both. I 347 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: went to All Dominion University and was a picture and 348 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: a hitter, which is why I think before a lot 349 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: of people I I I was talking about him before, 350 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: because I'm a year ago saying this isn't normal. It's 351 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: isn't normal. I know it goes into this. So I 352 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: was playing college ball for two years and tried to 353 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: do it, tried to do the two way player thing, 354 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: and I couldn't. It was too hard. I was an 355 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: average D one player at both, and obviously there's nothing 356 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: wrong with an average D one player. Um, but I 357 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: I ended up stopping and becoming a full time position 358 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: player and wasn't All American my junior year, and then 359 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: got drafted by the Tires and played professionally for five 360 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: years in the Detroit Tires organization. Well, so let's back up, 361 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: so average as a hitter and pitcher, and then you 362 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: dropped one and it unlocks greatness and you're an All 363 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: American like I don't. As a guy who never was 364 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: able to play any college sports, talk talk me through 365 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: like what what? What? What changed? So dramatically? Yeah, So 366 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: you know the reason I chose to go to Old 367 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: To me, it was because it was one of the 368 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: schools that was going to allow me to do both. 369 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: And that was a big thing for me, was it 370 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: was being able to do both. I loved doing that. 371 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: And then I get to college and you know, I'm 372 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: having fun. I'm doing both, I'm pitching, I'm out of 373 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: the bullpen a little bit. I had a start here 374 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: and there. Uh, and then I'd play outfield every once 375 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: in a while. So I wasn't getting the consistent playing time. Um. 376 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: It was. It was a struggle. Um, and I was 377 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: okay at both, but I never want to be okay 378 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: at anything I do ever, no matter what it is. 379 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: So after my June after my sophomore year, uh, in 380 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: our exit meeting, my head coach at the time, Chris 381 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: Finnwood said, look, I think you need to pick one. 382 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: I really do. You're not going to get drafted as both. 383 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: I think you need to pick one and dedicate your 384 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: time to it, because what happens is I end up, 385 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do both, but you end up picking 386 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: and choosing where you think you can miss out on 387 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: something else. So like, if I'm supposed to be hitting 388 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: one day, okay, I need to take VP on the field, 389 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: but maybe I can skip out on this drill and 390 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: can go through my bullpen. It's like, you don't you 391 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: don't allocate your time, it's impossible to do it perfectly. 392 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: So I ended up dropping it and going into that 393 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: sophomore summer, all I did was dedicated my time to hitting, 394 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: and I came back in bigger, stronger, with a better swing, 395 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: and just you know, had an incredible junior year and 396 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: it just made it way easier on me. So before 397 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: this season, before what Otani is doing right now, I 398 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: would have told you it's impossible to do what he 399 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: is doing at the major league level, because I know 400 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: what it takes behind the scenes to do it, and 401 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: I would have told you it's impossible at the major 402 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: league level. So how the hell is he able to 403 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: pull this off? Yeah, that's a great question. And I 404 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: thought a lot about this, and I really think it 405 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: was kind of the perfect storm. Because if you're in 406 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: America and you're coming through our system over here, and 407 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: the way we have it set up, nobody goes straight 408 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: to the big leagues. Nobody you start in the minor leagues, 409 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: and there's plenty of there's there's a few guys that 410 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: will get to the minor leagues as a two way player. 411 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: But what happens is it shows itself pretty quickly what 412 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: you're more value of bolat like the staff season pretty quickly. Okay, 413 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: this guy is probably going to be more valuable as 414 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: a pitcher or as a hitter down the road. Let's 415 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: do that. We're gonna focus is that Otani being in 416 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: Japan and starting in Japan at such a young age 417 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: and getting to the big leagues in Japan at eighteen 418 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: nineteen years old, proved he could do it over there. 419 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: So he's doing it on the biggest stage over there. 420 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: He's an all star. He's one of the best to 421 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: ever play in Japan as both. And that's how he 422 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: decided to come over. He got to the top of 423 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: his game over there, he proved he could do it 424 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: over over there, and he said, I want to come 425 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: to the States, and this is what I want to do. 426 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: And he was given a shot to do it, and 427 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: and and I truly believe that's why he's able to 428 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: do it here, because he was able to prove himself 429 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: there and we just don't. We don't see that here ever, 430 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: So will he be a springboard to a bunch of 431 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: next generation athletes saying, Man, I want to do what 432 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: he's doing. I want to get that opportunity. I know, 433 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: like you said, the coaches eventually make you pick one 434 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: because the focus narrows and you can really become an 435 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: awesome person at one thing. Um, But do you think 436 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: this is the beginning of something new in Major League Baseball? 437 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: I I hope so, because I think it's really good 438 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: for the game of baseball. I mean, I mean, look 439 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: at look at the game right now. I mean there's 440 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: so many eyes on it that have never cared to 441 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: watch a baseball game. I think it's great for it. 442 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: I think organizations are gonna be maybe a little more 443 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: willing to try it. But I still think at the 444 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: end of the day, they're gonna say, Okay, yeah, you 445 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: know this is where your value is. This. Nobody's in 446 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: the Otani. Nobody's showing Otani. He throws a hundred he 447 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: hits balls seven hundred feet like that he's he's an outlier, 448 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: he's not human. Um So I think teams will be 449 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: willing to try it. But I mean, even when I 450 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: got to college, or even when I got to pro ball, 451 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: my swing was a little bit different. I had some 452 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: certain things that I like to do in my swing 453 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: that I was comfortable with and and I got you know, 454 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: when I got to my first level, when I was 455 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: a single a UM, I was playing well, and as 456 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: soon as I got there, the organization said, you know, we' 457 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna let you try this. We're gonna let you 458 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: try and do what you do, but if it doesn't 459 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: go well, we're gonna do you know, we're gonna put 460 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: our little touch on it. We're gonna put our little 461 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: touch on it. And in my first season, I was 462 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: an All Star at the break, I was playing great, 463 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: and they never they never touched me, never talked to me, 464 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: and I struggled in the second half. The season ended, 465 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: I went to instructional league and they changed my swing 466 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: immediately and it was done. And it's like in any 467 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: flash of we were right, they're gonna put there. They're 468 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, we told you so, here's what you're gonna 469 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: do now. And that's what I fear coming up in 470 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: the American system, where you grind your way through the 471 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: minor leagues. Every organization wants to have their little staple 472 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: put on you and say we told you so, now 473 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. Jeez. Yeah, it sounds 474 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: much tougher than the NFL or basketball, right, I mean 475 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: baseball sounds like the toughest, Like I I don't think 476 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: I've ever really spoken at linked to someone about what 477 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: the minor leagues are, like, I've read a lot of stories. Um, 478 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: it's is it basically like basic training before you become 479 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: a Navy seal, Like, let's weed out the guys who 480 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: just can't cut it because it's tough. It sounds like 481 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a business man, it is it is. 482 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: It is a business, and it is really tough. And 483 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: if if the truth of the matter is, if you're 484 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: not one of those guys that has a big investment 485 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: in you, if you're not a top five rounder with 486 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: a million dollars plus put into you, you can't you 487 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: can't mess up. You just can't. You have to be 488 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: on your game at all time because you know and 489 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: you're right. It is different than the NBA and the 490 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: NFL because there's a lot more rounds in the draft, 491 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: so there's a lot more players, and we don't see 492 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: that in other sports, where there's you know, there's eight 493 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: rounds of a minor league system before you get to 494 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: the top level. So that's where baseball is different. And 495 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: it just becomes this like grind of the best of 496 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: the best. And if you're a first rounder and I 497 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: give you seven million dollars, you can prove yourself in 498 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: one month and you're gonna be a big leaguer at 499 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: some point. But if I'm a guy that's drafted in uh, 500 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: let's say the thirtieth round, that was given a thousand 501 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: dollars in the Jersey, I can't mess up once. And 502 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's such a hard nosed business that it's 503 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: it really. That was the biggest transition for me from 504 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: college to pro ball. And and they can grant it 505 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: in you all they want. It's about the team, it's 506 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: about winning. It's not man and that that was the 507 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: hardest transition for me, is going from college where it's 508 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: very team oriented, to pro ball, where it's numbers on 509 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: a piece of paper. And if you don't put those 510 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: right numbers down, you don't have a job anymore. Fox 511 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 512 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 513 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f 514 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. I'm guessing your natural lapp 515 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: league because we work with Conrad and he said, you 516 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: guys have played golf a lot. We did. You and 517 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: I played basketball together. I know you're good. Uh did 518 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: you play like all sports growing up? Or was it 519 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: was baseball the primary focus all along? So I I 520 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: played a little bit of everything growing up. Um, but 521 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: once it got to the high school level, I kind 522 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: of stopped and and focused on just baseball, which I 523 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: don't know if I can't say I regret it, because 524 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: it worked out fairly well. I mean I got fairly 525 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: high and you know, in professional ranks. And I also 526 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: early in my high school career golfed, actually, and I 527 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: ended up quitting golfing because I was worried it would 528 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: mess up my baseball. But growing up, I don't I 529 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: played a little bit of everything, but by the time 530 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: I got to high school, I just stopped. Look, it's 531 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: like I don't know if it's the same. I'm sure 532 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: it is. I know basketball has like a travel baseball. 533 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: It's year round now, and it makes it so tough 534 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: to be a multi sport athlete like we used to 535 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: see with with the best athletes in the world that 536 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: would say, yeah, I played everything, that's why I'm as 537 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: good as an athlete as I am. But it's like, 538 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: if you're doing that now, you're behind the eight ball 539 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: and the sport that you really truly care about, which 540 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: sucks honestly. Yeah. Well, well, Steve Nash lives out near 541 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: us were used to before he moved out to Brooklyn, 542 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: and I ran into him recently playing tennis, and he 543 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: is king of the play all the sports. Get the 544 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: footwork down, practice everything, don't get burnt out because you know, 545 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: nobody really peaks when they're like fifteen sixteen. Nobody who's 546 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a pro? Right, you're just on the rise, 547 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: and you know, like it sounds like most athletes peak. 548 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: Probably what early twenties, you know, is that when you 549 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: were at your best right right after college. Maybe yeah, 550 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: that's probably my best, I mean, the best season other 551 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: than my junior year of college. I would say physically 552 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: and physically and athletically skilled. I was probably my best 553 00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: around right right around. Um, all right, so let's let 554 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: me we'll get back to baseball. But Ben, I gotta ask, 555 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: um twitch. Okay, you are obviously a light younger than 556 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: me our audience, because I can check the analytics. Excuse young. 557 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: So everybody now is like, oh my gosh, Jason's talking 558 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: to somebody about Twitch. Um, Ben, I gotta say, like, 559 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: you know the guy who brought you into five, Mike 560 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: Bucklin brought you in a Fox and I know buck 561 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: Well and he's like, Dude, this guy has a massive 562 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Twitch following. And I'm like, okay, I have the app 563 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: because I watch Australian basketball in the Twitch app, and 564 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: I want to check out your twitch feed. But Ben, 565 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: this is like another world to me. Um, to the 566 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: lay audience, Um, how the hell do you go from 567 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: being a pro athlete uh in the minors on the 568 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: baseball track and then go twitch and then media? How 569 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: does that work? Talk me through that? Well? So I'm 570 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: sure you know, and I've talked to a lot of people. 571 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: When when you're playing, you have you do have a 572 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: lot of downtime and a lot of athlete play video games. 573 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, I know a lot of you know, I 574 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: know a lot of baseball guys that play The Show 575 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: and All and and NBA two K, And I know 576 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: a lot of basketball players that played two K and Mad. 577 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: And it's like you you find yourself, you know, allocating 578 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: your time and in certain aspects. So I was playing 579 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: a lot of video games and look, I'm I'm at 580 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: the field. Um. When I played baseball in the Tigers organization, 581 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: we played a hundred and forty two games and a 582 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty days, okay, which is insane. And it's 583 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: so you end up just the The only way you 584 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: get through it is a schedule and regimented. And this 585 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: is how I go about and this is how I 586 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: go about it. And I'm at the field from noon 587 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: to eleven midnight every day. You can't just go home 588 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: from playing a nine in a game and go to sleep. 589 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: You can't. Um, you gotta your your brain is still gone. 590 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: You kind of got to relax. So what I would 591 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: find myself doing is getting home, sitting on my couch 592 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: and playing video games for a couple of hours before 593 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: I went to bed. So I got really good at 594 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: the show probably better at the show than I am 595 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: in real life. Get out of here. So so what happened? 596 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: I ended I stopped playing baseball. I was done with baseball, 597 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: and actually the pandemic hit and my my roommate at 598 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: the time said, dude, you're really good at this game. 599 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: You have a good personality. I love Twitch. Do get 600 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: on Twitch. I'm like, what am I gonna do? Like, 601 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. That was one thing. Why why would 602 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: anybody want to watch me play baseball? And but I 603 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: started doing it and immediately loved it and started building 604 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: this community of people that clearly cares about me, about 605 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: what I have to say, and it just becomes this 606 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: community of people, and it just grew and grew and 607 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: grew and uh and and still to this day, even 608 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm out here, I still try and 609 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: stream every every week day. And yeah, and so it 610 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: ended up the transition into media came when and I 611 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: truly believe being on twitch helps me, helps me, and 612 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: they set apart right, Yeah, there's no I mean, I 613 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: don't know any other media guys who are huge on Twitch. Again, 614 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: I might be ignorant and just not know them, but 615 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little old school Ben, I don't know any 616 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: other guys who are on there. Yeah, and I and 617 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: I you know that too, but I truly, I mean 618 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: just it helps me. And look, I'm I'm on a camera. 619 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: I have twenty fifty a hundred, five hundred people watching me, 620 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: asking me any questions. I'm talking back to them, I'm 621 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: entertaining them, and I truly believe that helped me. And 622 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: then the day comes where I'm flying out to l 623 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: A and and my agent says, oh, I'm I'm good 624 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: friends with Mike Buckling and he talked about earlier I 625 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: love to have you talked to each other, and and 626 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: I did, and that's how the World Series Watch Party 627 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: came about. And and the rest is history. And you 628 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: know that it's just been this crazy like whirl end 629 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: of of of of time. But it's like, I truly 630 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: believe all of it has has helped me and laded 631 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: me to where I am right now. Yeah, it's it's funny. 632 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: So Ben and I played basketball one day and then 633 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: he was telling me about the Twitch. So I decided 634 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: to go on Twitch and look at him. And I 635 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: was with my kids who are hipped all this stuff, right, 636 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: So I go on there and Ben is like taking shots, 637 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: talking to these people, answering questions, and my kids are like, 638 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: he's drinking alcohol, Dad, you you should do this. You 639 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: drink alcohol. And I'm like, maybe there's something here. And 640 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: then Ben, of course i'd find out he's making a 641 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: lot of money on twitch. I'm like, this guy's really 642 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: crushing it. Um listen, man, you carve out a niche 643 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: anywhere you can, and like you're you're on fire right now. 644 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people are like excited the 645 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: you met Otani. Yeah. Man, Well, first off, so every 646 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: every Friday when I stream, I just call it fireball 647 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: fitness Friday. So it just happened to be a Friday 648 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: that we played basketball and hops in my stream and 649 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like taking a shot and I don't 650 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: even drink a ton, but on Fridays it's you know, 651 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: content we back baby, So you know, I like take 652 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: a shot and I look, you know, I'm streaming, I'm 653 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: playing the game, and I looked down on my phone 654 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: and it's j MC and he says, hey, what's up man, 655 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: I'm in your stream. My kids are watching, and I'm like, oh, 656 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: it was awesome. It was awesome. Yeah, congrats on that. 657 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: We'll do some rapid fires. Second half baseball questions, Um, 658 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: what what the hell can the Angels do to get 659 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: to the playoffs so Otani can taste the postseason? Uh, 660 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: somehow acquire a bunch of pictures that you know, Um, 661 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: that's something. Yeah, I don't think it's possible. What they're 662 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: pitching step pitching, pitching wins in baseball. And they've proven 663 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: they have one of the best offenses in baseball, and 664 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: they've proven they just you know, they don't have the 665 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: pitching to do it. New York Yankees just not a 666 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: great first half. Um, I'm a little concerned. Are they 667 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: making the postseason? No? Oh my god, no Otani, No Yankees. No, 668 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: I don't. Look there's they're they're talented, but there's too 669 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: many good teams in that division. Uh, there's no easy 670 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: wins other than the Orioles. There's no easy wins. And 671 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: I've seen nothing from them at this point that says 672 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: they're going to turn a corn. We're over halfway through 673 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: the season and they're not just not pretty. You can 674 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: pick one um to build your line up around. Tattoos 675 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: or Vlad good question. I mean, they're both twenty two 676 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: and they're both incredible. Oh yeah, everything just offensively or 677 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: like your team, Yeah, yeah, team I'm gonna take. I'm 678 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna take tattoos. Yeah, I feel I feel like that's 679 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: probably the move. He just has this magnetic thing about him. Um, 680 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: is he the next best young player in baseball? Or 681 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: am I missing someone? No, you're right, I think if you, 682 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: if you, if you strictly said offensively, who's better, I 683 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: would go lad. But it's it's everything about Tatis. It's 684 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: the charisma, it's the swaggy becaus. He's so cool, Like 685 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: I will never be a fifth as cool as he is. 686 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: He plays a premium position, he plays shortstop. He's incredible, 687 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: he flips his batty, he has so much fun, and 688 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: he's a he's a Latin player that speaks, you know, 689 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: is so good with with the media and it's incredible 690 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: to see him. So he's for sure a face of baseball. 691 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: Astros are on fire. Do people still hate them for 692 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: the scandal or is that over? I don't hear about 693 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: as much of it as I used to, not over 694 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: very much. Still, Oh my gosh, uh, and I guess 695 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: i'll wrap up. How much anger did you get from 696 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Yankees fans for you, Ohtani better than Ruth thing, uh, 697 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, not as bad and not as bad as 698 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: I thought a lot of people are on the you 699 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: know what I got more of was uh, well, of course, 700 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: because Babe Ruth was, you know, was eating hot dogs 701 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: and could almost hit seventy a fastballs, of course Otani 702 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: is better. And then there's a few that's like, well, 703 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: he's the best home run hitter of all time? How 704 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: dare you? And I'm just like okay, yeah, yeah, this 705 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: is like ninety five years ago. He was an amazing 706 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: baseball I don't even want to go down that path. 707 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we in the NBA we talked like what 708 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: is Patrick Ewing right now in the NBA? Like does 709 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: he come off the bench for somebody? Uh? And you 710 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: look at football players and like, come on, tom Brady's 711 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: forty four. Go look at what forty four year olds 712 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: look like in you know, it's like come on. And 713 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: now going into the Super Bowl, there was a side 714 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: by side picture of Tom Brady and some Stabler I 715 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: think it was Key Stabler the Raiders. Yeah, and it 716 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: was like that guy looked like my grandpa exactly. I 717 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: mean Honestly, I don't want to like Babe Ruth. Great player, 718 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to disparage him. I don't want to 719 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: get baseball fans mad. But like this idea that he 720 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: would dominate right now in baseball is a little bit comical. 721 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you agree or disagree. No, I 722 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: totally agree with that. We're not gonna end on bashing 723 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth. But as Ben Verlander follow him on social media, 724 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna gain at least two does than 725 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: twitch fans from not from POT. I don't know a 726 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: lot of I know a lot of people that that 727 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: listen to the POT are on there. But Ben, keep 728 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: up the great stuff. Um and uh, you know, I'm 729 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: sure I'll see you so Jam, thanks so much for 730 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: having me man. I appreciate it.