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Speaker 2: He Happy New Year's Eve. You made it through twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Congratulations. How much longer does Lincoln Riley have

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Speaker 2: That's a whole other question. Aaron Torres disaster at the

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Speaker 3: Interesting month for him, to say the least, with the

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame stuff, which you know you and I were

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Speaker 3: filling in in this time slot last week, well right

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Speaker 3: around this time, and yeah, the Notre Dame stuff certainly

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Speaker 3: And fast forward and now it's not much better. After

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get a chance to hear how things ended

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Speaker 2: last night for the USC Trojans in dramatic fashion in

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Speaker 2: San Antonio. And it's only fitting because it is New

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Speaker 2: Year's Eve. We got the Reliant Relyia Quest Bowl going on,

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Speaker 2: once known as the Outback Bowl. We've got the the

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Speaker 2: Cheese Its Bowl going on with Texas and Michigan about

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Speaker 2: to play.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's the cheese at Citrus Bowl, which feels

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Speaker 3: a little counterintuitive to me, but hey, I who am

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Speaker 3: I to talk about food groups?

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Speaker 2: Citrus Bowl is always a staple in Orlando, and then

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Speaker 2: it's not the granddaddy of them all, but it's one

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Speaker 2: of my personal favorites. We've got Sun Ball action, Arizona

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Speaker 2: State Duke from El Paso. It's what we've got on

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Speaker 2: this New Year's Eve. I love it. I told Aaron

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Speaker 2: before the show why I love the Sun Bowl so much.

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Speaker 2: It's a stadium that we don't get the Sea a

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Speaker 2: lot because we don't get to see UTEP, right, we

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Speaker 2: don't see UTEP football that often the Relia Quest Bowls

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Speaker 2: where the Buccaneers play in Tampa, So when the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: National Football League. This stadium sells out. It's on CBS,

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Speaker 2: it's not on ESPN's variety of options of bowl game

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Speaker 2: the only CBS Bowl game they have. So sign me

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Speaker 2: up for some Arizona State Duke on New Year's Eve

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Speaker 2: in the Sun Bowl because the Sun Bowl is where

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Speaker 2: it's at on December thirty.

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Speaker 4: First, I will tell you really quick.

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Speaker 3: I know that there is a lot of dirt being

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Speaker 3: thrown on Bowl Season's grave, and I get it. And

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Speaker 3: I know we're gonna talk about the Alamo Bowl in

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Speaker 3: a second. But the Sumbowl, I agree. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a really cool setting that we don't get see very often.

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Speaker 3: I'll also say this despite the result, because you're a

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Speaker 4: Santoni is a really fun like I was watching.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at yesterday the river walk and this

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Speaker 3: and that, no disrespect. I don't know if I would

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Speaker 3: want to live in San Antonio, but to go travel

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Speaker 3: there once every couple of years, it's always a fun trip.

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Speaker 3: So I was watching that Alamo Bowl with nostalgia because

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Speaker 4: So you should go there when there is in a

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Speaker 2: I bet you should go there in June during an

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Speaker 2: NBA finals for nine days. Yeah, for a while. I've

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Speaker 2: been there. I've been there. It's different than the Final four,

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Speaker 2: trust me, it's different. San Antonio, El Paso, Milan. Speaking

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Speaker 2: see Iliam Allen and Alyssa lu and Ambergen Glenn compete

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Speaker 2: at the twenty twenty six prevage in US Figure Skating

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Speaker 2: Championships January seventh through the eleventh b there as the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth US Olympic Figure Skating team is named

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Speaker 2: live tickets at US figure Skating dot org. So if

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Speaker 2: you missed it last night, maybe you were in bed

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Speaker 2: getting ready for tonight's New Year's Eve festivities, hoping to

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Speaker 2: is how the Alamo Bowl ended last night. In overtime

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Speaker 2: It left pain clicks one tackle at two at times forward.

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Speaker 5: the horn Frogs have filed the MAgric against USC one

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, it was a game that probably shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: of Lincoln Riley. Here's a school that has a lead

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Speaker 2: was a perfect metaphor Aaron Torres for how things have

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley was not only thought to be possibly the

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Speaker 2: and I think we look at Lincoln Riley in a

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Speaker 3: And I said, why would the NFL want him? Because

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Speaker 2: I would even say that for the way that he

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Speaker 2: And so the the golden golden boy, if you will,

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Speaker 2: Like we thought, honestly when Oklahoma, when he was leading Oklahoma,

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Speaker 3: Well, and I know it doesn't pertain to him being

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Speaker 3: You know, it's easy to forget this. Now, when he

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Speaker 3: Two quick Bowl thoughts before we get to obviously our

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Speaker 2: their basketball team's got a conference game against hal coming

436
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: up later on in a couple weeks, you would have.

437
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 4: Said, oh, of course it's Arizona State.

438
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: Ye.

439
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: No, that would be Duke and I. I am so offended.

440
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm not offended by the lack of success that say

441
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: it U c l A has in the in the

442
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: Big Ten, but it's just more of the cal Stanford

443
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: cherry on top.

444
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: So weird.

445
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 2: It's that that in the ACC that just completely ruins

446
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: it for me. So my resolution to cal to Stanford

447
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: to UCLA to Washington to USC. I wouldn't line if

448
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: Oregon stayed the Big Ten. But whatever to to to

449
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: make things so bad that you're like, maybe we have

450
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Speaker 2: to join this new pac twelve again. That is that

451
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: is a resolution than I have for those teams.

452
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Speaker 3: Would they then kick out the Boise States and Fresno

453
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Speaker 3: States of the world?

454
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 4: Not keep them? Yeah?

455
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: Keep them, make it, yeah, you can make it a

456
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: bigger conference. You can find out that maybe it isn't

457
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: so bad because it's just it just it really really is.

458
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: Not taken a hold, taken.

459
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 2: A grasp, And I would hope that kind of like

460
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: your Yukon when they were in the American and then

461
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like back in the Big East. Look,

462
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: it's like you're back home again. That's the feeling I

463
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: think you would get if those schools ended up going

464
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Speaker 2: back to their conferences.

465
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Speaker 3: I'll just say this really quick. Tuesday night was just

466
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: flipping channels. We had Louisville at cal and Notre Dame

467
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: at Stanford in acc play and Notre Dame at Stanford.

468
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Speaker 4: This is basketball. It still felt like.

469
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: Mid December, late December out of conference game from like

470
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 3: the nineties, you know, like the nineties, wou'd be like, oh,

471
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's doing their West Coast swaying of UCLA and

472
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 3: Stanford and then to you know, Stanford's rank number eleven

473
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: in the country and Tiger Woods is sitting courtside.

474
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 4: Still felt like still felt like that.

475
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: By the way, Gary Danielson being honored at the road

476
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: at the Sun Bowl, I'm sad to see.

477
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 4: Him go is a legend of the Sun Bowl.

478
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 3: By the way, Quickside Tangent before I get to my

479
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: resolute during the Relyquest Bowl, I heard a reference to

480
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 3: living legend Diego Pavia.

481
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 4: Feels like a little bit of a loose use of

482
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Speaker 4: living legend. Yeah.

483
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 7: I know he was a Heisman finalist, but it feels

484
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 7: you gotta do something more than.

485
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: Finished third of the Heisman Trophy to be a living legend,

486
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: do you not? Yeah? And I think you have to

487
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: be over sixty.

488
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 9: Say for how long his career has gone in college football.

489
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 9: He's an elder statesman. Maybe that's the legend part.

490
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, joh, yeah, he is older than the standard college

491
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Speaker 3: I was just like, feels a little aggressive to go

492
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Speaker 3: living legend. Okay, so, speaking of aggressive, my New Year's

493
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: resolution is for all college football fans. And Chris Purfett

494
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: heard this rent on Christmas Day, but I'm gonna reuse

495
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: it for a New Year's resolution. I need every college

496
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: football fan to just take a deep freaking breath. Not

497
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: everything is an existential crisis. And this is more about

498
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: the college football playoff.

499
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 7: Oh my god, it's the end of the world because

500
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 7: we got James Madison in Twulane and I couldn't bet

501
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 7: on it because the spread was twenty one points.

502
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 4: And this is the worst.

503
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 7: We have to change the playoff, go to sixteen, cancel this,

504
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 7: add that, put this. Why does college football have seven

505
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 7: existential crisis? Is a year that need to be addressed

506
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 7: in the moment or the whole sport.

507
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 4: Is falling apart.

508
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: Can we maybe try a twelve team playoff for like

509
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: three years before we decide that it's the worst thing ever.

510
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: It's just unbelievable to me every year.

511
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: The other part about it is the changes that are

512
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: made don't necessarily always address the correct issues or the

513
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: issues at hand.

514
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: I mean, we can't.

515
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: They're talking about expansion and how we're going to do it,

516
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: and now Notre Dame is getting an automatic bid if

517
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: they're in the top twelve, and I don't think like

518
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: they're band aids on real issues. Dan Lanning is going

519
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: off and saying, let's figure out this schedule thing. I

520
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: think that we focus Aaron, all of those little things,

521
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: those crisises, our band aids to bigger issues in college

522
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: football that we think are bigger issues. But maybe to

523
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: your point, they aren't as big as we think that

524
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: they are.

525
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: No, I mean, and it's just I don't know.

526
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: Tou Lane ended up with like fifty yards of total offense,

527
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: less than all Miss the game.

528
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: They just couldn't converted the red zone.

529
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 3: Sometimes you get bad games in the NBA playoffs, in

530
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: the NFL playoffs, we don't have to blow up everything

531
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: all the time when we don't get a result that

532
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 3: we like.

533
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Speaker 4: Chris Purfetts your New Year's resolution or resolutions if you

534
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: want to, Iowa Salmon. Yeah, let's know.

535
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 9: I say, I'll just do one, and it's for it's

536
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 9: for another league here, and it's for one that I

537
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 9: have a relationship with at this point, to the NBA.

538
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 9: At this point, I feel like the NBA right now

539
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 9: is in a place that can be good in that

540
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 9: I mean it's slowly waking up to this idea of parody.

541
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 9: Every every year or so, we've had to deal with, Oh,

542
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 9: is this team that just won the NBA Championship? Could

543
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 9: they be the next dynasty? Could the Oklahoma City Thunder

544
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 9: be the next dynasty? Could the Nuggets be the next dynasty?

545
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 9: Could the Bucks be the next dynasty? Settle down and

546
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 9: enjoy having a wide field of interesting teams right now,

547
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 9: Like I would ask that the NBA, You've got a

548
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 9: good thing going. You've got some new You've got some

549
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 9: new media partners that are treating it better than the

550
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 9: ones prior did. I think the Amazon broadcasts are fantastic

551
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 9: for how deep they get into it. You have a

552
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 9: wide field with the Pistons, the Knicks, the Celtics, and

553
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 9: it feels like, I know the Thunder are kind of

554
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 9: like cruising along, but this really does feel like a

555
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 9: year where you have a lot of interesting teams who

556
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 9: are never gonna talk about the raptors of Scottie Burn.

557
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: Definitely not saying this as a Pistons fan.

558
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: Definitely not for the team at the top of the

559
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference to the Lakers last night.

560
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: With the ease, I will say this j Redgan's the shot.

561
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: You didn't want to name networks, but I'm going to

562
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: name networks in a bad way. You named Amazon Prime.

563
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: I watched both games or not from beginning to end.

564
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: But last time on NBC you had Sixers Grizzlies overtime game,

565
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: Lakers Pistons was on afterwards. The presentation on NBC is better.

566
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: ESPN doesn't make it. It doesn't feel like it is

567
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: a big deal. It felt like a regular season game

568
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: that meant something last night when it really didn't, like

569
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: neither of them did, and it felt it is a

570
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: different presentation. There is a fresh feel to it. I'll

571
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: also say this, I'm not going to absolve TNT from

572
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: any of the from this as well.

573
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: No, you're married now with ESPN overall time. Yeah.

574
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: So, I think that even the broadcast that we saw

575
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: on the Tuesdays and Thursday nights, maybe that it feels

576
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: like they rose to the occasion. But now with the

577
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: new way of the NBA, the broadcast on NBC at

578
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: a Christmas point on Amazon make the sport feel like

579
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: a bigger deal and a more enjoyable watch in the

580
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: regular I would.

581
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Speaker 9: Just hope that we appreciate the basketball for being the

582
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 9: high level basketball and talk about this as the full

583
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 9: sport instead of hitting the same buttons over and over

584
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 9: going constantly back to the Lakers, who getting caught in

585
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 9: the meta narrative of who's going to be the next

586
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 9: dynasty and a disservice to the game itself at this point,

587
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 9: to enjoy the basketball that's in front of us in

588
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 9: this entire season, because sometimes the NBA gets caught up

589
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 9: in who's going to be the big trade, what's going

590
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 9: to happen to this coach?

591
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said this on Christmas.

592
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: That was one of my Christmas wishes, my Christmas gifts,

593
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: I said, and all expenses pay trip to Cancun.

594
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: For Adam Silver. Get out of the way.

595
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: You have fun, young stars, let us enjoy them before

596
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: you screw this up by changing thing I say with

597
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: college football, changing this adding that like Wemby has a

598
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: universal one thousand percent approval rating, Kate Cunningham has a

599
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: one thousand percent approval rating.

600
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 9: Whoever, the Knicks are still a feel good story, which

601
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 9: is amazing.

602
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 4: It's the Knicks we're talking about. Don't screw this up.

603
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 10: Adam Silver to the Isaac long Kron, this is kind

604
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 10: of the kind of along the lines of Aarons in

605
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 10: terms of the subject.

606
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 6: But my new Year's resolution is for someone to come

607
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 6: forth and establish themselves as a leader who can help

608
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 6: save the insanity that has become college athletics, both from

609
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 6: a college football standpoint, college basketball, the college football playoff controversy, nil,

610
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 6: the transfer portal. They need some sort of college sports czar.

611
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 6: You really set college sports on a better track. And

612
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 6: I'll make my point by saying this. I'm gonna play

613
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 6: you guys a voice right now, and I'm gonna ask

614
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 6: you to identify the voice. Aaron might be able to

615
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 6: identify this person, but I doubt that hardly anyone in

616
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 6: our listening audience would be able to yet, go.

617
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: Ahead a question, Yeah, should we turn our chairs around

618
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: when we know it? Like should we hit the buzzer

619
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: when we know the voice? And then they're on our team?

620
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 10: That's you ever.

621
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: See the voice, Aaron, It's been a minute like this.

622
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 10: Not a visual medium.

623
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 6: That's the point. I just don't think anyone will recognize

624
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: the voice.

625
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 10: But here it is. See for yourself.

626
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

627
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it puts into the notion student athlete,

628
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: the student in very very stark relief the actions taken today.

629
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 10: Can anybody recognize that voice.

630
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: Sounds like Mark Emmert unbelievable?

631
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 10: Good for you, But that was my point.

632
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 6: I don't think hardly anybody in our listening audience realized

633
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: that that was the president of the NCUBA during an

634
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 6: unbelievably transformative time. I'm from twenty ten to twenty twenty

635
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: three laying the groundwork for the insanity that we have now.

636
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 6: So clearly whatever happened during his reign led to the

637
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 6: insanity that we have now. I had to Google to

638
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 6: find out who the current NCBA president is, a guy

639
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 6: named Charlie Baker. The nc DOUBLEA or college sports in general,

640
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 6: I feel just needs a transformative leader to just bring

641
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 6: some common sense back to what I said is a

642
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 6: wild wild west of controversy. Not that I don't like

643
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 6: controversy being on the sports media, but that's what we

644
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 6: need in college sports.

645
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: Can I just say, really quick, the sad part is

646
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: it will never happen so like cal Perry exactly. Well,

647
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: cal Perry had his huge rant this week, and somebody's

648
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: like he needs to be the college basketball commissioner. I said,

649
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: by default, the commissioner's job is to get everybody to

650
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: work together. It's never in the SEC's best interest to

651
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: work with the Big twelve. It's never in the Big

652
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: twelve's best interest to work with this place, Big Tech.

653
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: Except so that's the issue that I keep here.

654
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: Nick Saban should be the commissioner of college football. Why

655
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 3: so he can get in a room and Greg ZANKI,

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Speaker 3: you'll be like, screw the Big ten. It's like the

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Speaker 3: job will never And this, by the way, super random,

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Speaker 3: but it's what this Cody Campbell guy, the Big Texas

659
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Speaker 3: Tech booster, is basically saying, like, we all basically have

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Speaker 3: to work together to save college sports. We can't keep

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Speaker 3: working in our own silos and echo chambers here.

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Speaker 4: I just don't know if it will at it.

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Speaker 6: By the way, under the radar, enormous props to Fox

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Speaker 6: Sports Radio's Dan Byer for being able to identify the

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Speaker 6: voice of Mark Emmert. I mean, the CIA couldn't even

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Speaker 6: have done that, So kudos to Dan.

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Speaker 2: I'm like the Reba of the voice version here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Jason Stewart's got another resolution.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I got a bonus one for you guys. This

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Speaker 8: is deeply personal and it also impacts Isaac Lohenkron as well.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna ask Chris Purfet to kill the bed. That's

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Speaker 8: an industry jargon term. I don't expect the listener to

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Speaker 8: understand this. I'm taking the bet out back and shooting it.

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Speaker 8: New Year's New Year's resolution for the Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 8: Fire the guy in charge of keeping your players healthy.

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Speaker 8: And it actually is one person. This guy went viral

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Speaker 8: when Harbrough brought him aboard.

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Speaker 10: His name is Ben Herbert.

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Speaker 8: No relation, no relation to Justin. Ben Herbert. Somebody on

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Speaker 8: TikTok put this together. So you're gonna, I think you're

682
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Speaker 8: gonna hear yackety sacks at some point because it has

683
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Speaker 8: become a clown show. And as you hear the yackety sacks,

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Speaker 8: you're gonna see on the TikTok a list of the

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Speaker 8: number of injuries that the Chargers of experience this year.

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Speaker 8: I want to say it's an NFL record. If it isn't,

687
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Speaker 8: I'm going to exaggerate on national radio and say it

688
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Speaker 8: was most injuries ever suffered by a team. And Ben

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Speaker 8: Herbert is in charge of keeping this team strong and conditioned.

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Speaker 8: And this was how he opened his opening press conference

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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 11: I have you training it this way, and this is

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Speaker 11: how I told it to the guys. My first goal

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Speaker 11: is to make you harder to break.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 11: The most vulnerabil areas of the body, in my opinion,

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Speaker 11: in the game of football, the head, right and left shoulder,

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Speaker 11: right and left hip girdle, right and left hamstring, right

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Speaker 11: and left ankle. So through your training, you have to

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Speaker 11: be proactive at training those areas of the body. So

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Speaker 11: the network that I introduced today, the trap work, the

702
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Speaker 11: four part cuff sequence to address the four rotator cuff

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Speaker 11: muscles in their shoulder girdle, introduced them to some hip work,

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Speaker 11: introduced them to some ankle work. Right, These are things

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Speaker 11: that are paramount. If you want to make a football

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Speaker 11: player harder to break, your training has to be sound.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, it's.

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Speaker 8: All okay, I got enough of that. Needless to say,

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Speaker 8: chargers are easy to break. They're not hard to break, Isaac.

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Speaker 6: Honey, it ain't Ben Herbert's fault, you know, and I

711
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Speaker 6: know that the Charger litany of injuries long long predated

712
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Speaker 6: Ben Herbert, and as much and as good as Ben

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Speaker 6: Herbert's track record was at Michigan. You can't pint it

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Speaker 6: solely on him. It's complex, it goes a long way back,

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Speaker 6: and it affects everyone associated with the Chargers, not even

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Speaker 6: those under Ben Herbert's permit. Peg now, I got it now.

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Speaker 8: Also like somebody on the Chargers payroll. By the way,

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Speaker 8: that sounds like a take from somebody.

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Speaker 10: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: But my new Year's resolution, I'm going to stick to it,

721
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 10: And I know it happened long before he got the town.

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Speaker 3: Can I say, also, didn't the guy before Ben Herbert

724
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Speaker 3: stabbed Tyrod Taylor accidentally?

725
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Speaker 4: In Isaac's defense, could that was.

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Speaker 10: A team doctor? It wasn't a strengthened conditioning coach.

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Speaker 4: Core a player got stabbed in the lung.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Isaac's pig. I know it's Jay Stew's resolution,

729
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Speaker 3: but I I'm on team Isaac on this one.

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Speaker 2: I think we should have a resolution for Sharon Moore

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Speaker 2: to get a head coaching job in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: just so we can have him at a press conference

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Speaker 2: to answer all the questions.

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Speaker 1: That no midway.

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Speaker 4: I think that would be great.

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Speaker 2: Can some program just take one for the team, right,

737
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Speaker 2: just so he can get a a pre season media

738
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Speaker 2: day press conference, and so we can ask all of

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Speaker 2: the questions that we're wondering about what went on.

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Speaker 4: You know, what's crazy about your own more.

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Speaker 3: In all seriousness, I believe as part of his release

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Speaker 3: from jail, I don't think he can leave the state

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Speaker 3: because my thought was my thought was, does Harbaugh just

744
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Speaker 3: give him like assistant director of player ops or something

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Speaker 3: just to kind of get his career started again. And

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Speaker 3: I was like, I actually don't think he can leave

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Speaker 3: the state, you know, unless it's like pre approved by a.

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Speaker 4: Jug which Grace. Sure. That's so you're saying Western Michigan

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Speaker 4: or Central Michigan is waying. It's a lot that I

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Speaker 4: would that I would like the chips.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say Central Michigan already has ties

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Speaker 3: to the Michigan program.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Connor Stallions was saying out on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: So just just at your throw some sunglasses and you

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Speaker 2: can do that.

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Speaker 8: Can I piggyback on your idea, Dan, So if a

757
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Speaker 8: program doesn't hire him, the nearest resolution for the creator

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Speaker 8: of the Connor Stallions documentary, just do the Sharon More documentary.

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Speaker 8: Get the girlfriend in here. I need all the details.

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Speaker 8: I need all the only fans models.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that would be so good when it comes out.

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Speaker 2: But the counter Stallions documentary made him seem like a hero,

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Speaker 2: and so that, you know, it was like he was

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Speaker 2: put up on this pedestal like he was this amazing,

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Speaker 2: like this just this huge, great fan and everybody wanted

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Speaker 2: to side with Michigan because they love Jim Harbaughs.

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Speaker 4: He was playing chess. Everyone else is playing checkers. That's

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Speaker 4: what it was. That's what it was.

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Speaker 2: Those problems run deep, as we are now starting to

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Speaker 2: see everything wipe away.

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Speaker 4: Clear the windows any more resolutions. Uh, we're good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not.

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Speaker 2: A very happy New Year's Eve twenty twenty six. Just

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Speaker 2: i'man Jeff Schwartz joins the program. Happy New Year, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 12: I am making sweeping judgments about every conference and team

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Speaker 12: based off of exhibition bowl games.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm doing. All right, Great, We're gonna make sweeping.

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Speaker 12: Judgments on anything, and we're gonna we're gonna do the

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Speaker 12: the the was it transverse of property? When you do

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Speaker 12: like the the sixth seed in the Big Ten beat

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Speaker 12: the three seed in the Big twelve, and that seed

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Speaker 12: beat beat Oregon, and this seed beat that and therefore

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Speaker 12: my team's winning.

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Speaker 4: What about Notre Dame. They didn't play anything.

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Speaker 12: They're not playing they're not playing correct.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a great it's a great day then

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Speaker 2: to be in the Big ten, except if you're USC

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Speaker 2: and Lincoln Riley. That's where Aaron and I started the show,

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Speaker 2: and just to if you if you didn't catch it, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: it's basically I can't remember and neither early can Aaron.

807
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Speaker 2: Such a turnaround of of I guess how we view

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Speaker 2: someone that we've seen a one eighty from Lincoln Riley,

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Speaker 2: who was once the hottest name maybe in all of

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Speaker 2: coaching with college football and maybe eyes on the NFL,

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Speaker 2: to now being I don't know, just such it feels

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Speaker 2: like such a negative factor in college football. You won't

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Speaker 2: shut up about the Notre Dame rivalry. What are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on Lincoln Riley and how things have gone during

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Speaker 2: his time not only with USC, but just through a

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Speaker 2: wildest coaching career.

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Speaker 12: Look, man, you just have to feel, really, I don't

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Speaker 12: know what the word is, impressed, right than a an underdog,

819
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Speaker 12: like a little chippy underdog who just is, like, you know,

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Speaker 12: just battling every week, and there after four years of

821
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Speaker 12: a rebuild, they've arrived on the scene. You know, windows

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Speaker 12: You just you just have to like love college football

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Speaker 12: because this doesn't happen in any other sport where an

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Speaker 12: underdog like USC can can pick themselves up by their

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Speaker 12: bootstraps and work as hard as possible and get themselves

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Speaker 12: in a situation where maybe they cover a road game

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Speaker 12: next season. So let's hope that US can do that.

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Speaker 12: It won't be playing Notre Dame obviously at home next year.

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Speaker 12: I think I think everyone's just tired of it, Like

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Speaker 12: you're freaking USC man, come on, come on your USC now.

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Speaker 12: I I played in the era where you know, Pete

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Speaker 12: care was dominant USC. And as much as the talk

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Speaker 12: is about Reggie Bush, who's the best culture and Matt

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Speaker 12: lionerd and and Lendell White and uh and the wide

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Speaker 12: receivers they had, they won in their trenches.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 12: All five offensive linemen got drafted nearly every year when

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Speaker 12: I played them, Their backup defensive lineman got drafted, right,

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Speaker 12: Like they had a backup linebacker, their fourth linebacker who

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Speaker 12: didn't start for them and was a fourth round draft pick.

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Speaker 12: Like that's what USC was. USC's not that anymore. They

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Speaker 12: get pushed around, and that's the problem. They get pushed around.

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Speaker 12: When they stopped getting pushed around, they'll start winning more football.

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Speaker 12: We know that he can coach quarterbacks, We know he

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Speaker 12: can coach wide receivers. We know all those things. The

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Speaker 12: problem is they get pushed around. They get that's the problem.

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Speaker 12: They get pushed around. And when they stop getting pushed around,

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Speaker 12: then they'll start winning bigger football games.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, Jeff, on that topic.

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Speaker 3: So I'll be honest. So I think two things can

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Speaker 3: be true. I think most people kind of understand the

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Speaker 3: basics of why USC decided to either opt out or

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Speaker 3: they could whatever the verbiage is with the Notre Dame thing.

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Speaker 4: I've actually been.

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Speaker 3: Surprised how vocal USC people are, Like Keishawn Johnson, Petros

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Speaker 3: Papadek is basically saying.

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Speaker 4: We don't care what era it is.

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Speaker 3: We don't care how many trips you have to make

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Speaker 3: across country to play as part of the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: This is a rivalry that we want and we care about.

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Speaker 3: Have you been surprised how actually vocal the USC contingent

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Speaker 3: has been on the decision to end that rivalry.

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Speaker 12: I don't think so, because you know, those guys grew

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Speaker 12: up with that rivalry and it meant some into them,

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Speaker 12: and and they grew up in an era where you know,

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Speaker 12: that game felt like I would imagine like the fact

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Speaker 12: that like national championship, right, like like we beat Notre Dame,

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Speaker 12: were as good as we think we are, and I

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Speaker 12: think that those guys are going to miss out on that.

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Speaker 4: And it was good.

871
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 12: It was always a good way to test yourself to

872
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 12: play Notre Dame. Look, let's be real, if USC was

873
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 12: being Notre Dame, they keep the rivalry going kind of

874
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 12: that simple, right, But but they're not not be Notre Dame.

875
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 12: And that's why the Rivoalay's gone. And you can make

876
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 12: all the excuses you want. You want to play wig zero,

877
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 12: which just makes no sense to anyone. No one wants

878
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 12: to play the game wing zero. You know, they want

879
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 12: to play the game early in the season because USC

880
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 12: is topically better early in the season. Like that's when

881
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 12: they played they beat Els. You were in the season,

882
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 12: Like they're better early in the season.

883
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

884
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 12: I just can continue the way it is. You go

885
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 12: when you play there, you play there in October, you

886
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 12: play in Southern California, you play November. I just continue on. Yeah,

887
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 12: scheduling is hard man, Like that's one thing that that

888
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 12: Pete Carolsey back to that era that USC fans talk

889
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 12: about NonStop. They scheduled hard man. They went back east

890
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 12: all the time they played in Arkansas when Arkansas was good,

891
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 12: they played Virginia Tech in DC. I believe like they

892
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 12: always scheduled tough. They never shot away from anything. It

893
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 12: just feels like those players that played, and some of

894
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 12: those guys were earlier than that, USC never shot away

895
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 12: from those things. I feel like they feel like, you know,

896
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 12: being a big dog program as they are, you shouldn't

897
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 12: shy away from those type of games. And it very

898
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 12: much feels like they're shying away from those games now.

899
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: They had a home and home with the Ohio State

900
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: when they now they're conference foes. But eight No.

901
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: Nine, yeah, like it was, that's when they actually played schools.

902
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: He's aeron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. Jeff Schwortz joining us

903
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. I know we were laughing

904
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: at the bull records, but the SEC just lost again

905
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: with Vanderbilt. Could this be a sign to come when

906
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: it comes to the college football playoffs starting this over

907
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 2: these next couple of days, Jeff Well.

908
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 4: I hope, so, yeah, right, everyone, Yeah, I hope.

909
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 8: So.

910
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 12: Look, I mean, look the bowl game thing, man like,

911
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 12: Iowa is the worst team to play in the bowl game.

912
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 12: Our army Navy. Like these teams, they have no opt outs.

913
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 12: All they do is run the football, right, That's just

914
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 12: what they do, and they live for these moments, right,

915
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 12: Like I like, I was never gonna think down about

916
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 12: playing the Relia Quest Bowl, right, And I'm not saying

917
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 12: that Vanderbilt, you know, think down about the game. But

918
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 12: you know, Diego Povey is coming back from Ohio. Wek

919
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 12: of Heisman ceremonies, and Vanderbelt wanted to be a playoff

920
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 12: team and all these things, and now you have to play. Now,

921
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 12: go play like the super fiscal IOWA team. Like, it's

922
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 12: just a it's a tough spot. We don't I think

923
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 12: we we we talk about a situation a lot in bowlgames,

924
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 12: we actually don't take it that seriously. Like I think

925
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 12: people sort of dismiss it. Oh lol, that team doesn't

926
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 12: really want to be there. But I've been on a

927
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 12: team that didn't want to be the but we lost

928
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 12: thirty eight to six in a bowl game.

929
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: We did not want to be there.

930
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 12: I know that feeling, And that's natural if you don't

931
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 12: if you're not in the bowl game you think you

932
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 12: should be in, or you lose a conference championship game

933
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 12: or you know, you're supposed to be a playoff team

934
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 12: and you're not. So I just don't know how we

935
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 12: judge it, right, because then these rosters leave and they

936
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 12: move on. And so look, the Big Ten is good.

937
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 12: They're good, They've been good all season. If you play

938
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 12: Iowa Van Dy in Week seven, you probably get a

939
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 12: different result, right, Like, it's a different type of game.

940
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 12: So it's great for the Big Ten. I think it

941
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 12: does continue tomorrow. I think sorry with tonight, I think

942
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 12: I think Ohio wins a close game. I think it's close,

943
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 12: and I think with the Miami a little bit of

944
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 12: credit there. They're not as bad as people want them

945
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 12: to be. I think I think Oregan winz tomorrow. And

946
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 12: I do think that Indiana I think they handle business

947
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 12: pretty well. Out to Alabama. It's a bad matchup for Obama.

948
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: You know, you just brought up a point that I

949
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 3: brought up to Dan earlier today. Is you know, I

950
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: know we've said it's playoff or bust, and you know

951
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 3: in this era, I think it really struck me today,

952
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: and I'm curious for your perspective. If you are an

953
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: Ohio state those types of programs, can you actually have

954
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: a successful season if you don't make the playoff in

955
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: this era, and I'll give you an example. Right, So,

956
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: like Texas is playing right now, I don't think they

957
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: would say their season is a failure. I don't think

958
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: they would say their season is a success either. Is

959
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: there a world where, again, if you're in Ohio State,

960
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: if you're a Michigan under normal circumstances, that you can

961
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: even have it Notre Dame opting out of the Pop

962
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: Darts Bowl. Is there is there a world for programs

963
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: like that in this era where you can deem it

964
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: a successful season if you are not one of those,

965
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 3: at least for now twelve teams in the playoff, I

966
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: think that's.

967
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 12: Only true for about seven or eight teams, right, So

968
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 12: you're looking at the Georgias, the Alabama's, the Texas, right

969
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 12: the Oregon, Ohio. I think Penn State is in that

970
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 12: at least they were, which James Franklin like, they were

971
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 12: obviously a favorite to being the postseasons here in Miami,

972
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 12: maybe Clemson, you know, Texas Tech, the way they're spending

973
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 12: and want to win, maybe they're in that group now.

974
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 12: But otherwise that's about it. Right, Like otherwise, you in

975
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 12: a given year. If you make the playoff, that's really great,

976
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 12: but you really shouldn't shouldn't strive for that to be

977
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 12: the only way you measure success. I do think though,

978
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 12: that the teams I mentioned Indiana, by the way, it

979
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 12: might be in that in the in that group. Now,

980
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 12: I think we have to look at the regular season

981
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 12: a little bit differently for those teams, and I view

982
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 12: it now more of an NFL type mindset, where the

983
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 12: regular season is all about prepping for the playoffs. Like

984
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 12: if you are a certain number of NFL teams, yes,

985
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 12: you want to win every game, but you want to

986
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 12: make sure you're playing your best football in December to

987
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 12: get ready to play in the playoffs. Right, you'd like

988
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 12: to knock go on the playoffs losing you know, seven

989
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 12: games in a row, four or five games in a row.

990
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 12: Seven obviously a lot, but you know three games with

991
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 12: the Rams right now, probably don't want to go into it.

992
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 12: They're gonna they're gonna rest everyone this weekend.

993
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: Most likely.

994
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 12: You don't want to go in the postseason losing your

995
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 12: last two games, just starters played, right, Like, that's not

996
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 12: a good feeling to head in the postseason. And I

997
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 12: think college football teams now the ones I mentioned, their

998
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 12: goal is just getting the finish line healthy and get

999
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 12: ready to play your playoffs. Like, for example, my Ducks,

1000
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 12: I'll talk about them. I think when they lost January

1001
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 12: first last year, their entire purpose this year was to

1002
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 12: get back to tomorrow and play in a different type

1003
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 12: of game than they played last January first. So all

1004
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 12: they did all season was to prepare for this this weekend,

1005
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 12: hopefully more so, you know, they win a game by

1006
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 12: three or by six, or or you know they pull

1007
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 12: the starters in the third quarter against JMU, it's all,

1008
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 12: it's it's it's all to get to this point to

1009
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 12: play tomorrow's game. Same with I think Ohio State feels

1010
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 12: the same way. Indiana to some extent I imagine, feels

1011
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 12: the same way. Georgia feels the same way, And so

1012
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 12: I think it's we have to maybe view those teams

1013
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 12: sort of in the NFL esque lens, where the first six, seven,

1014
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 12: eight weeks like just win like win, and then just

1015
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 12: sort of peak right now. I think Georgia Green example,

1016
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 12: like their defense was not very good early to their standards,

1017
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 12: it's really good now. Right right now is when you

1018
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 12: want to be playing your best football. I think Oregon

1019
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 12: last year learned that the hard way. They probably weren't

1020
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 12: beating Ohio State with their best game anyways, but they

1021
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 12: just weren't as ready to play on January first, and

1022
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 12: they peaked way too early in the season.

1023
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: Last one for me, Jeff Schwartz joining US, I was

1024
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: to think that Oregon got the raw end of the deal.

1025
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 4: They have Ohio State in their bracket and we.

1026
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 12: Would have to beat him anyways. At some point you

1027
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 12: would have to beat him. I get it, you would

1028
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 12: beat him anyways. I think it would have been different

1029
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 12: if you played him secondly, but I don't think we

1030
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 12: beat I think they were too good last year. They

1031
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 12: were They were a fantastic team.

1032
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: Maybe or maybe Ohio State loses on the other side

1033
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: of the bracket and you never have to you never

1034
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: have to face that, you know. And the reason I

1035
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: actually brought it up is because I'm curious about ole Miss,

1036
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: because now, if this is a rematch game, ole Miss

1037
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: hung with Georgia for the most part in their game

1038
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: in Athens earlier this season, but if it falls apart,

1039
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: I think we're all gonna say it's because of Lane Kiffin,

1040
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering how much is it to allow be

1041
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: smart in Georgia a second chance at Old Miss? How

1042
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 2: do you see that game playing out tomorrow night?

1043
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 12: So I do wish the committee tried to avoid rematches,

1044
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 12: because you know the end up a committee does that,

1045
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 12: like they they purposely try to schedule teams so they

1046
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 12: don't have rematches early in the You can't you can't

1047
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 12: stop it in what happens to you in the final four, right,

1048
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 12: but you can avoid rematches in the round of sixty four,

1049
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 12: in the round of thirty two. It does feel like

1050
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 12: you could have set up a situation where Old Miss

1051
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 12: and Georgia don't play again. But it is, it is

1052
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 12: what it is. I think Georgia is gonna smoke them,

1053
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 12: and I don't think I was going to do with

1054
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 12: Lane Kiffin. I think they're just better than Old Miss.

1055
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 12: And you know, this earlier game, Old Miss scored thirty

1056
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 12: five points, I think it was in the first three

1057
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 12: cores and Georgia just shut them down in the second half.

1058
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 12: And they did that to a lot of teams this season.

1059
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 12: They did Tennessee, they did to Old Miss, They did

1060
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 12: it to Bama in the first Bama game. I think

1061
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 12: Georgia is just much better. And again to my point

1062
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 12: about preparing for this time of year, Old Miss is

1063
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 12: happy to be here, right, Georgia wants to win a championship.

1064
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 12: I mean, those are the kind of different mindsets, right,

1065
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 12: And that matter is in my opinion when it comes

1066
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 12: to how the game's gonna go tomorrow. And look, is

1067
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 12: it ideal that half a Lay's staff is in the

1068
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 12: Old Miss building right now? Probably not. That's something Old

1069
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 12: Miss has to deal with. But I think they lose tomorrow,

1070
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 12: and nothing to do with with Lane. I think they

1071
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 12: lose with Lane. I think lose lose without Lane. So

1072
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 12: I'm curious obviously to see how that goes. But I

1073
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 12: think Georgia and Indiana are my favorite. Just like put

1074
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 12: them together in a parlay, it pays minus one twenty

1075
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 12: and just those teams are gonna.

1076
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: Win there it is and start twenty twenty six off

1077
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: on a winning note if you listen to Jeff Schwartz.

1078
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 2: Of course, you can listen to them every Sunday morning

1079
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: alongside Brian Noan Bill Krackenberger on Countdown to Kickoff, presented

1080
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Speaker 2: by Bett MGM, each Sunday morning at ten o'clock Eastern Time,

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Speaker 2: seven Pacific, as they take you all the way to kickoff. Jeff,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate the time. Happy New Year, Talk to you

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. Take care, guys, how good New Year.