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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Giants Out my

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Speaker 2: Let's role Welcome to the Giants Huddle Podcast, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Citizens, the official bank of the New York Giants,

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Speaker 2: Madelein Burke and Paul Detino standing by with a week

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Speaker 2: ten rapid reaction, the Giants went up to Munich for

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Speaker 2: an international game playing the Carolina Panthers, falling twenty to

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Speaker 2: seventeen loss to the Panthers in overtime and dots. Despite

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Speaker 2: the excitement of the Giants putting together that drive, tying

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Speaker 2: the game getting it to overtime, the very first play

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Speaker 2: of the overtime period, Tyrone Tracy fumbles the ball. The

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Speaker 2: Panthers recover at the twenty three and win it with

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Speaker 2: a field goal.

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Speaker 3: You can't feel any worse for Tracy Madeline. This rookie

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Speaker 3: has done so much for this team. Fifth round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: You look at his numbers on the day, eighteen carries

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Speaker 3: one hundred and three yards, had a thirty two yard

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Speaker 3: touchdown burst earlier in the day. He has done everything

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Speaker 3: the Giants could want and more. It's his third one

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Speaker 3: hundred yard game of the season, and to be honest,

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Speaker 3: I think he's given Malik Nahbors to run for his money.

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Speaker 1: Is the best Giants rookie of the year.

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Speaker 3: But then he winds up fumbling the ball, having former

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Speaker 3: Giants A Shawn Robinson, former Giants defensive tackle strip him

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Speaker 3: and give the Panthers the opportunity to kick the winning

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Speaker 3: field goal. In Otsa, your heart bleeds for Tracy because

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Speaker 3: of all the guys that you don't want to see

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Speaker 3: that happen to, because of how well he has done.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens, and that's why the game is what

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely one hundred and three yards and a touchdown on

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Speaker 2: the day for Tracy. But of course the play he's

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Speaker 2: going to be remembering is that one had his head

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Speaker 2: in his hands on the sideline, players consoling him. It

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Speaker 2: happens to the best of us, but it was a

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Speaker 2: tough one that lost the game. But you know DoD's

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Speaker 2: talking about the drive before that. Of course, the Giants

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Speaker 2: had won the coin toss, so they opened up over

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Speaker 2: time with the ball. But the drive before that, Giants

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Speaker 2: got down the field, they had five consecutive completed pass

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Speaker 2: plays as they made it all the way down the field,

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Speaker 2: kicked the field goal, Graham going to a forty two

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Speaker 2: yarder to tie this game at seventeen and force overtime.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at it.

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Speaker 3: The Giants get the ball back with two eighteen to

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Speaker 3: go and no timeouts left, so they know they get

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Speaker 3: the two minute warning, and the Giants made use of

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Speaker 3: that twelve plays fifty five yards and on that drive

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones I had him down for eight completions on

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Speaker 3: eleven attempts.

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Speaker 1: Now that included a spike and.

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Speaker 3: Then included a throwaway, so he was really eight of nine.

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Speaker 3: He had three passes during a four snap stretch that

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Speaker 3: he completed the Jalen Hyatt, so let's not leave his

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Speaker 3: name out of this as we talk about guys who

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Speaker 3: actually provided some kind of spark. Hired, of course getting

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Speaker 3: extra playing time because Darius Slayton was left home with

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Speaker 3: a concussion. So you'd like to think that maybe this

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Speaker 3: is something that's going to get Hyatt's ball rolling in

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Speaker 3: the second half of the season.

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Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 4: so go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country.

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Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 4: you ready for all that life breaks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Talking about players made the most due to their opportunity

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Speaker 2: today Jalen Hye of course four for four for thirty

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Speaker 2: right tackle, the first time we've seen Evan Neil on

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Speaker 2: the field this season. He started at right tackle. Jermaine

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Speaker 2: Aluminor moves over to left tackle. According to Next Gen Stats,

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Speaker 2: Neil allowed just one pressure on forty one pass plays

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Speaker 2: of the postgame show. You didn't hear Evan Neil's name

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Speaker 3: Good thing now, Absolutely, it's always the deal with offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: If they don't get called out, then that means they've

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Speaker 3: Luminore during camp because ILLUMINOI took advantage of his opportunity

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Speaker 1: Now he did well.

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Speaker 3: So if you're the Giants, why would you take him out?

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Speaker 3: And no matter how much common and Brisilla and the

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you do much better?

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Speaker 3: The Giants old line only gave up I think two

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Speaker 3: for the most part they played pretty well. We already

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Speaker 3: the line was okay, and Evan Neil certainly did his job.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but it was still a tough loss twenty to

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Speaker 2: seventeen and overtime loss for the Giants. You know, talk

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Speaker 2: this week, after kind of differing from the question a bit,

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Speaker 2: did admit that, yes, you know what, he was a

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Speaker 2: little extra excited to be playing against his former team. Burns,

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Speaker 2: of course, traded from the Panthers coming earlier in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Burns the second play of the game gets the sack

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Speaker 2: on Bryce Young, but other than that, the Giants defense

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Speaker 2: was not really able to apply much pressure, which is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't get that wave, that that steady wave

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Speaker 1: The Giants got close a few times. I believe.

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Speaker 3: They wound up with the one sack by Burns and

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Speaker 1: That's not enough.

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Speaker 3: And you know, when you look at this game and

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Speaker 3: hold up well enough and close enough in the secondary.

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Speaker 3: They were going to need that pass rush to get

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Speaker 1: And I just do want to add one other thing about.

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Speaker 3: This, and that is Brian Burns has been nursing a

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Speaker 1: Came out of the game for a play late in

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Speaker 3: He was nicked up, and then he got right back

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Speaker 3: next to Dexter Launch, been the Giants' second best defensive

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, even today there was a moment

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Speaker 2: but he got right back up and made a tackle

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Speaker 2: on the very next play. A tough guy playing through

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Speaker 2: the adversity, for sure. You know, when we heard from

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Speaker 2: second quarter, Giants were in a flee flicker on third

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Speaker 2: and short didn't come up with it. Daniel Jones takes

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Speaker 2: I had it back.

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Speaker 3: And I understand why he's going to go back and say, well,

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Speaker 3: we ran the ball three straight times with Tracy. We're

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Speaker 3: and one at your own forty nine. Now, conventional wisdom

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Speaker 3: Daves probably thought, well, you know what, we're at midfield.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we take a shot in a big play and

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Speaker 3: I know why he toyed with that idea, but as

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Speaker 3: So I think maybe if he had a chance to

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Speaker 3: because the fleet flicker took a lot of time to develop.

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Speaker 3: And then dj Wanham, who is the Panther's best remaining

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Speaker 3: best pass rusher now that Brian Burns had been traded

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Speaker 3: on a slow developing play, and that's what allowed that

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Speaker 1: He was open.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you can't get the ball to a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Malik Naghbors said, hey, you know, as receivers,

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Speaker 2: Brian Davill wish I had it back. Be hindsight always

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Speaker 2: we talked about the Tyrone Tracy fumble. In overtime. The

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Speaker 2: Giants had three turnovers, Daniel Jones throwing two interceptions, also

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Speaker 2: turning the ball over in the red zone. One of

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Speaker 1: Well, the two interceptions are in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: coughing it up on a pass that was behind Tracy

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Speaker 3: and wound up getting picked off just inside the sideline.

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Speaker 3: A horrible, horrible break for the Giants. And that those

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Speaker 3: came up empty on a opportunity in the scoring zone

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Speaker 3: when they got to the twenty nine of the Panthers

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Speaker 3: early in the game, and Gino missed a field goal,

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Speaker 3: a very makeable field goal in the mid forties.

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Speaker 1: You gotta figure he's gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: So, yes, inside the twenties the red zone, but I

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Speaker 3: say inside the thirties the scoring zone. And the Giants

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Speaker 3: did have three trips where they came up empty besides

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Speaker 2: You love turf, you're good.

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Speaker 4: At it, so you start a turf biz business grows,

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Speaker 4: your savings grow, become the most celebrated name in turf.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for all that life brings?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Tough miss for Graham Gonno in his first game back

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Speaker 2: in overtime. A long flight back home from Munich. Fortunately

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Speaker 2: for a Week twelve matchup with those Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: of course, the storyline for the November twenty fourth matchup

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Speaker 2: return of Sterling Shepard.

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Speaker 3: Shep eight years with the Giants, a fan favorite, a

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Speaker 3: coach's favorite, even a teammate's player's favorite, almost four hundred

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Speaker 3: receptions while he was here. Everybody appreciates what he brings

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Speaker 1: Cheering on every one of the players who were on

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Speaker 3: Thought he was going to retire, and then Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 3: his old college team at Oklahoma, says, why do you

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Speaker 3: come down here? So he goes to Tampa Bay, doesn't

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Speaker 3: make the cut, they put him on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Then they decide to bring them up because they got

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Speaker 3: He's had over a dozen catches, has a touchdown reception

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Speaker 3: is going to be really warm for Sterling Shepherd.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Sterling Shepherd's not the only one who's chosen to

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Speaker 2: retire in Florida, right, But you know what, he's making

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Speaker 2: good players. But of course, much needed buy a Week eleven,

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Speaker 2: buy for this Giants team to get healthy, get well.

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Speaker 2: We will hear from GM Joe Shane at some point

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Speaker 2: of the season, and we'll keep you up to date

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Speaker 2: with all the latest news from Big Blue on Giants

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Speaker 2: dot Com and on Giants podcast platforms everywhere. But that's

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Speaker 2: a wrap for our Week ten rapid Reaction with Paul Deatino,

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