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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and Key Armstrong and Getty. Three rulings

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Speaker 2: came down while we were off last week that I'm

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Speaker 2: interested in from the Supreme Court, and then they high

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Speaker 2: tail it out of there and they go do whatever

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Supreme Court justice is doing their

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Speaker 2: off time before they come back in October. But three

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Speaker 2: rulings came down that I'm particularly interested in. The trains ruling,

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Speaker 2: got a Fourth Amendment case, it's got to do with

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Speaker 2: your cell phones and stuff like that. And then the

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Speaker 2: birthright citizenship which Trump was really into. Anyway, we welcome

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Speaker 2: back to the show, Anastasia Boden, Senior Attorney, Equality and

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Speaker 2: Opportunity for the Pacific Legal Foundation. How are you today, Anaesthesia?

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Speaker 3: Oh, doing great?

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Speaker 4: Talking about my favorite thing with one of my favorite people.

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Speaker 2: Well, I believe it's one of your favorite things. I

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Speaker 2: don't believe in one of your favorite people. What are

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Speaker 2: these you most excited about?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: They were all big, They're so in the news everyone.

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Speaker 4: They were all supposed to be blockbusters, and everybody tells

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Speaker 4: you that if they don't get their way, it's going

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Speaker 4: to be the end of the world, and then the

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Speaker 4: term is over, and now everybody's forgotten about all three anyway.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, we can start with the trans athletes one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So first of all, oftentimes the headline of what

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Speaker 2: happened is incredibly misleading as to what was actually decided.

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Speaker 2: And I haven't looked into these because I was on vacation,

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Speaker 2: But so what did they rule around trans athletes? Particularly

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Speaker 2: the issue, as we all know, is boys competing in girls'

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Speaker 2: sports in high school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: This is one of those cases where the headlines are

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Speaker 4: misleading because this case doesn't address whether states must separate

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Speaker 4: trans athletes from women's sports. It just says that states

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Speaker 4: can separate if they want to, and twenty seven states

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Speaker 4: have chosen to do so. They've said that women's sports

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Speaker 4: belong to women, and the majority, actually all nine justices,

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Speaker 4: all nine justices, said that separating transgender athletes does not

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Speaker 4: violate Title nine of our Siliites.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that on that.

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Speaker 4: Issue, it was I know, the only place where there

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Speaker 4: was some descent was on the equal protection clause. Three

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Speaker 4: justices thought that maybe if trans athletes have mitigated in quotes,

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Speaker 4: mitigated their advantage by taking hormone therapy and whatnot, then

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Speaker 4: they should be able to challenge that ban and say

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Speaker 4: that they get to compete too with women.

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Speaker 3: But the majority held, no, it.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't matter if you've taken hormone therapy. It's good enough

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Speaker 4: if the state decides that men and women are different.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing that only twenty seven states have banned this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think we might find movement on that soon.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we had even Newsome, you know, saying in

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Speaker 4: I think this is becoming more of a mainstream idea.

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Speaker 2: God, I would think so. All right, So what did

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Speaker 2: they finally decide on birthright citizenship? If if I fly

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Speaker 4: Basically, yes, birthright citizenship is almost universal save for a

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Speaker 4: few exceptions. That is, enemy occupiers you're not entitled to

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Speaker 4: birthright citizenship and diplomats basically, but everybody else gets birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 4: It was a six to three decision where we even

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Speaker 4: had some of the so called conservative justices join here

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Speaker 4: and say, hey, the text has written really broadly.

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Speaker 3: If you don't like.

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Speaker 4: It, we can get a constitutional amendment for that. But

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Speaker 4: this is the way, this is the status quo, this

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Speaker 4: hundred years, one hundred and fifty years, and we're going

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Speaker 4: to maintain that broad birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 2: So even though the original intent, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that makes you an originalist if you care about that,

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Speaker 2: but even though the original intent was to make sure

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Speaker 4: And this was a fight between the majority and the descent.

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Speaker 3: This was written in the.

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Speaker 4: maybe that was the intent, But the text itself applies

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Speaker 4: very broadly and establishes a broad principle of birthright citizenship,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to drag you into political conversations that

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Speaker 2: might get you in trouble, but it is interesting that

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Speaker 2: several of the big cases that Trump really wanted to

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Speaker 2: go a certain way didn't go his way, despite mainstream

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Speaker 2: media portraying the Spreme Court is some sort of maga

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Speaker 2: rubber stamp that answers to Trump. They went against him

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Speaker 2: on a whole bunch of stuff he cared about.

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Speaker 3: That's absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he won some, but he lost a lot,

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Speaker 4: and he lost the big ones. He lost the tariff case,

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Speaker 4: and birthright citizenship. Those were cornerstones of his election, and

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Speaker 4: it does a lot of damage to the people who

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Speaker 4: say that these justices march in lockstep with the president

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Speaker 4: dragged through the mud right now for not voting with Trump,

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Speaker 4: even though she's not the only one.

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Speaker 3: Chief Justice has deviated from him as well.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's really a shame, because when these

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Speaker 4: justices vote according to what they believe is the right outcome,

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Speaker 4: that bolsters the Supreme Court, and it's really these attacks

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Speaker 2: Well, it hasn't been true throughout both of Trump's terms.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at it statistically, it has

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Speaker 4: a three three three divide. The three liberal justices really

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Speaker 2: Do you look at any I like those end of

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Speaker 4: And she she's been writing separately to write really strident

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Speaker 2: If you were on the so you got nine really

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you at some point you think question your decision making.

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Speaker 4: You You would think you would think, or you would

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Speaker 4: at least temper down the descents and not, you know,

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Speaker 4: what have you at least admit that that maybe have

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Speaker 2: About no kidding, yeah, no kidding. So on this one

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Speaker 2: about the geo fencing. So you got this case that

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Speaker 2: I find that troubling that that ever happened, but that

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Speaker 2: fits into this particular case. Chatterree is that how you

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Speaker 4: They said that that requires a warrant. Come on, that

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Speaker 4: is almost a quintessential Fourth Amendment search. That really invades

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Speaker 4: you know, we contract with cell phone companies, and so

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Speaker 4: have no expectation of privacy in our data. We still

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that one. I heard it portrayed as

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Speaker 2: the way they ruled didn't help us that much, But

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Speaker 2: if it had gone the other way, it would have

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Speaker 2: been horrifying in terms of the government's ability to start

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, think about this third party doctrine, this rule

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's really disturbing. So that was a win.

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Speaker 2: You're right, where we go, we talk to our politics,

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Speaker 2: our finances, our taxes, our love relationships. I mean, everything

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: But that was a big win, a really good case,

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Speaker 4: and it's part of you know, that's another interesting one

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Speaker 2: Thank god for that one. At the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: Any big surprises to you.

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Speaker 3: You know, not really.

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Speaker 4: I think for somebody who watches the court closely, we

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Speaker 4: always knew birthright citizenship was going to be an uphill

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Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna rule against Trump on birthright citizenship. So

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Speaker 4: the government has to pay back the money. I think

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Speaker 4: they're still doing fine. Everybody's fine. The economy seems to

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Speaker 3: So it seems like for the better.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it was all that surprising, but you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll see what happens next term. They say that quiet

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Speaker 4: So maybe next year we'll get some really really explosive cases.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything we expect to come down next year?

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping one of my own cases gets great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's your favorite one that you would love to

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Speaker 4: Well, it actually involves a California law of course, where

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we might talk again until next October.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you go there, you go, fantastic, Anna, Stasia Boden.

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Speaker 2: What am I supposed to say about the podcast? Hanson?

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Speaker 2: The Dispatch with an article out today. Ukraine has the momentum.

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Speaker 6: Another hellish night in Ukraine, especially in the capital Kiev,

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Speaker 2: Look, this is a nightmare. Let them go to hell again.

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Speaker 6: A shortage of US defense systems, especially Patriot interceptors, allowing

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Speaker 6: As attacks have been wrapping up on both sides. Ukrainian

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Speaker 2: I think we're getting much closer than people realize.

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Speaker 2: Trump is going to talk to Zelensky one on one,

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Speaker 2: now incurring eight men kill or seriously wounded for every

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Speaker 2: one lost by Ukraine. Russia has eight men killed or

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Speaker 2: wounded badly enough to take off the battlefield to every

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Speaker 2: one of Ukraine, with average monthly casualties running at more

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Speaker 2: than thirty thousand a month this year for Russia. God,

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't stand for that politically in the United States.

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Speaker 2: For a week based on recent military involvements, thirty thousand

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Speaker 2: killed or seriously wounded a month for Russia. And it's

446
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Speaker 2: been going on like that for a long time. They're

447
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Speaker 2: offering sign up bonuses as high as eighty thousand dollars

448
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Speaker 2: or one hundred and forty thousand dollars in debt relief

449
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Speaker 2: to encourage more people to enlist. So I hope, you

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Speaker 2: hope you'll find some guy who's not doing well. The

451
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Speaker 2: economy's horrible in Russia over the last couple of years.

452
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Speaker 2: So you gets some guy that's gone into debt and

453
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Speaker 2: out of desperation to help himself or maybe his wife

454
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Speaker 2: and kids, he signs up for that one hundred and

455
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Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars in debt relief or eighty thousand dollars

456
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Speaker 2: cash and goes off to fight the war. Well, they

457
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Speaker 2: probably don't know these statistics, which are just horrific. The

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Speaker 2: average life expectancy of a new Russian recruit from a

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Speaker 2: rival at the training ground to death in a combat

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Speaker 2: zone is somewhere between ten days and three weeks. That's

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Speaker 2: the average. So you sign up and ten days to

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Speaker 2: three weeks later, you're probably dead once you're on the battlefield.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this statistic. That's when you get to the

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Speaker 2: combat zone, You've got on average ten days to three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Once you're on the battlefield, the average Russian soldier survives

466
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Speaker 2: twenty to thirty five minutes. So you sign up for

467
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Speaker 2: that eighty thousand dollars cash bonus or one hundred and forty

468
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth of debt relief. Once you're in the

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Speaker 2: combat zone, you're gonna be dead in a half an

470
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Speaker 2: hour or shorter. How awful is that? Absolutely amazing. I

471
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Speaker 2: tweeted this out over the weekend and Ian Bremer was

472
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Speaker 2: responding to that story also with the fact that the

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Speaker 2: world can't or won't stop this monster is just amazing.

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Speaker 2: Most of the burdens should be borne by Europe. Why

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Speaker 2: Europe hasn't stopped this monster is amazing. You're against a

476
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Speaker 2: nuclear power, one of the biggest nuclear arsenals on planet Earth,

477
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Speaker 2: and the guy in charge of it is willing to

478
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Speaker 2: grab young men and feed him into a grinder where

479
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Speaker 2: they last twenty minutes once they get on the battlefield.

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Speaker 2: You can't hardly even wrap your head around the fact

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Speaker 2: that that exists on planet Earth in the year twenty

482
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Speaker 2: twenty six. It is the history of Russia, by the way,

483
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Speaker 2: They've been doing this sort of thing forever, under dictators

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Speaker 2: and czars, war after war after war. Their willingness to

485
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Speaker 2: throw away the lives of young men is beyond practically

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Speaker 2: anything the world has ever seen. What a stunning statistic.

487
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Speaker 2: So you get called up, you're gonna last between ten

488
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Speaker 2: days and three weeks. Once you get to the battlefield

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Speaker 2: on average, twenty to thirty five minutes, and you're dead.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost impossible to believe that. How long

491
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Speaker 2: can Russia keep that up? How many people in Russia

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Speaker 2: know that stat Probably not very many. It's got to

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Speaker 2: be almost nobody. There's no way. I don't care how

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Speaker 2: much money you're getting, there's no way you would sign

495
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Speaker 2: up if you knew the average person was dead in

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Speaker 2: a week? Is there? What level of desperation would you

497
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Speaker 2: have to have? So we'll be paying attention to any

498
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Speaker 2: reporting around Trump's phone call with Zelensky tomorrow and Putin

499
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Speaker 2: tomorrow and see where we are on that story. But

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Speaker 2: right now Ukraine has got the momentum and I wish

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Speaker 2: we'd help them out. Wolfini ish strong, Next, Army strong, heyyetty.

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Speaker 7: The main Democratic Party is urging Grand Platner to drop

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Speaker 7: out of the main center race.

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Speaker 6: This after next.

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Speaker 7: Girlfriend says back in twenty twenty one, he showed up

506
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Speaker 7: her house very drunk and forced himself on her, even

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Speaker 7: though she says she repeatedly told him to stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this Platiner Nazi, he has an actual Nazi tattoo,

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Speaker 2: who is running for the Senate. Main You know he've

510
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Speaker 2: been following this if you listen to us at all

511
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: or paying attention to politics. He won the primary. He

512
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Speaker 2: is challenging Susan Connell Collins. And the important thing is

513
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Speaker 2: with the Senate so close to fifty to fifty, one

514
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Speaker 2: seat either way might determine who controls the US Senate.

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Speaker 2: And that is a very very big deal. Gazillions of

516
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Speaker 2: dollars and many many policies could be at stake, because

517
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Speaker 2: if the Democrats control the House and the Senate, that's

518
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Speaker 2: that's something. This woman came forward over the weekend, very

519
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Speaker 2: credible sounding saying Platner raped her. A whole bunch of

520
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Speaker 2: people have turned on Platner now in his own party,

521
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: saying he's got to get out. I like this tweet

522
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Speaker 2: that Timothy Sanders retweeted. Who endorsed Platner despite the fact

523
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Speaker 2: that he said bigoted, racist, sexist things online, despite his

524
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Speaker 2: Nazi tattoo, despite accusations of domestic assault. Who is he

525
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Speaker 2: endorsed by Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren Roe, Conna. Lots of people,

526
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Speaker 2: well almost all of them had come out and said

527
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Speaker 2: he's got to that Platner has to get out of

528
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Speaker 2: the race, except for Bernie, and now Bernie Senator Bernie

529
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Speaker 2: Sanders Graham, Plattner's a longtime backer, joined the core of

530
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Speaker 2: Democrats recommending that the main Senate nominee step aside in

531
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Speaker 2: the high stakes race, which means Platner is going to

532
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Speaker 2: be getting out probably today within forty eight hours. At

533
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Speaker 2: this point. At this point, what he's doing is figuring

534
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Speaker 2: out the financial stuff. We've seen this over and over again.

535
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: Nobody suspends their campaign and then gets back in the race. Ever,

536
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: you suspend your campaign to try to figure out how

537
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: much debt you have, how much money you got in

538
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Speaker 2: the bank, and try to get out of the thing

539
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Speaker 2: without financially ruining you. But I want to play this

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Speaker 2: political had the latest details on the rape accusation from

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Speaker 2: this woman. Political reporter was on Morning Joe Today. Mika

542
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Speaker 2: Brazinski was grilling the political reporter about the details.

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Speaker 1: Is there evidence between her and him, evidence of a crime,

544
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Speaker 1: because he's being he's being accused of rape, So what

545
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Speaker 1: is the what put this over the edge? Because yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: he says he didn't, and he has people on his

547
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Speaker 1: side who say he didn't. She says he did, and

548
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Speaker 1: there are people, but there's I'm trying, what's the through

549
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Speaker 1: line what ties this together and gives you the evidence

550
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Speaker 1: to bring the story to the point of publishable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we interviewed her, you know, three separate times.

552
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Speaker 5: Her stories stayed consistent across those times. You know, we

553
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Speaker 5: talked to people who who she had spoken with contemporaneously

554
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Speaker 5: about these attacks and all of those stories lined up

555
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Speaker 5: and checked out, and ultimately, you know, political stands by

556
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Speaker 5: our reporting, and we talked to, you know, people who

557
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Speaker 5: cooperated her.

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Speaker 2: Story, largely Mika Brazinski pushing the political reporter on what

559
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Speaker 2: is your proof here harder than you normally hear out

560
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Speaker 2: of her, well, certainly than you would ever hear if

561
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Speaker 2: it was, for instance, the accusations against Brett have an

562
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Speaker 2: awe or whatever. The question is still out there, and

563
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Speaker 2: I think this is going to get lost to history probably.

564
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Speaker 2: But that big giant Sunday front page article that the

565
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Speaker 2: New York Times did a couple of weeks ago where

566
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Speaker 2: they ran through a laundry list of women that had

567
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Speaker 2: called Graham Platner a bad date. I mean, because the

568
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: meat on that story was very, very weak, and they

569
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Speaker 2: buried it deep deep in the story. Why did the

570
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Speaker 2: New York Times do that? They talked to this very

571
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Speaker 2: woman who's now out there accusing him of full on

572
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Speaker 2: rape and very credibly accusing him of rape. They talked

573
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Speaker 2: to that woman, and they didn't dig into her story.

574
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Speaker 2: They didn't contact any of her friends or therapist or

575
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Speaker 2: anything like Politico did, like CNN did. This is a

576
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Speaker 2: common thing with these kind of stories. If you told

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Speaker 2: your friends at the time I was raped, those stories

578
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: tend to be much more believable and oftentimes turn out

579
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Speaker 2: to be true, as opposed to those people who didn't

580
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Speaker 2: tell anybody at the time. Not that that's impossible, but

581
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Speaker 2: it makes it much more likely that over time, you've

582
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Speaker 2: invented this because you're a crazy person, or you've invented

583
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Speaker 2: it because you've got a political ax to grind, or whatever.

584
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Speaker 2: We know this woman doesn't have a political act to grind.

585
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Speaker 2: She is out telling Jake Tapperancie and I want Platiner

586
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: policies to win. I don't. One of the reasons I

587
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: didn't come forward about the rape earlier is I like

588
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Speaker 2: what he's got to say. I'm a Democrat, I agree

589
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: with him on all this stuff. But she just finally

590
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: couldn't keep her mouth shut about what kind of guy

591
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Speaker 2: he was. He'll get out today. Now you're probably wondering

592
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: the most obvious question to ask is so, then who

593
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Speaker 2: replaces him on the ballot? What's the system for that?

594
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Speaker 2: In Maine, they have no system. They get to do

595
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Speaker 2: it however they want, absolutely however they want. They have

596
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Speaker 2: already announced there in Maine that they're not going to

597
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Speaker 2: appoint someone. That's one thing they're not going to do

598
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Speaker 2: is just have a commit I think it's just three

599
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Speaker 2: or four people just to point somebody. You know, that

600
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Speaker 2: would be the whole how Kamala Harris ended up a

601
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Speaker 2: nominee where you just pick somebody and go with it.

602
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Speaker 2: They don't want to do that. They're going to have

603
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Speaker 2: some sort of quickie primary or something along those lines

604
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Speaker 2: where the voters get to decide how strong a candidate

605
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Speaker 2: they'll be able to come up with. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Mark Alprin writes a lot in his newsletter today that

607
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Speaker 2: whoever they choose, even if they got somebody in line

608
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Speaker 2: that would be a decent candidate, they'll have all kinds

609
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Speaker 2: of problems raising money fast enough to run a Senate

610
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Speaker 2: race and all that sort of thing. So it definitely

611
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Speaker 2: tilts in favor of Susan Collins, the Republican holding on

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Speaker 2: to her seat. But Platner's done. Who saw that coming?

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Speaker 2: The guy with the Nazi tattoo? And I mean so

614
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Speaker 2: many of the statements. If Joe was here, Joe would

615
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: have already pointed out our favorite thing about him is

616
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Speaker 2: one of the women he was dating, would talk about

617
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Speaker 2: how he would sit there sharpening his axe. That was

618
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: one of his favorite things to do, sharpen his axe

619
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Speaker 2: and talk about how if anybody ever broke into my house,

620
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Speaker 2: I would rape them this shit to punish them. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, that's a pretty weird thing to say to

622
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Speaker 2: your date. Anyway. Final thoughts with Moot Strong Eddy, you

623
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Speaker 2: get the facts.

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Speaker 6: They're sharp Instead to move, don't shoot for Getty for

625
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Speaker 6: more from Long, Strong and Jetty.

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Speaker 2: Final thoughts. Host is me and there's only two of

627
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Speaker 2: us to give final thoughts because Katie's on maternity leave

628
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Speaker 2: and Joe did not have a baby. He's having an

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Speaker 2: anniversary vacation and I'll be back in a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Michaelangelo pressing all the buttons, flipping all the toggles. What's

631
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Speaker 2: your final thought? I guess I gotta stay away from

632
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Speaker 2: the small city of fireworks shows. I guess they can

633
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Speaker 2: afford really good fireworks.

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Speaker 4: When I saw they were literally shooting one fire I

635
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Speaker 4: work up in the air at a time, it.

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Speaker 2: Was basically like taking a road flare and throwing it

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Speaker 2: up in the air. It just wasn't that good. I have,

638
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 2: like everyone, my final thought is I like everyone after

639
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: vacation has to recalibrate money and calories. You get completely

640
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 2: out of whack on money and calories when you're on vacation.

641
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Everybody does it for some reason, and then you come

642
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: back and realize, oh, that's right. I can't eat like

643
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: this or buy everything I come across. I can't keep

644
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Speaker 2: this up, then shouldn't. I'm happy to be back at work.

645
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Speaker 2: I'm happy that I've got a job I like returning

646
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Speaker 2: to after vacation. No doubt it's gonna have a lot

647
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Speaker 2: of news tomorrow. I'm sure part of it would be

648
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Speaker 2: Graham Platner's resigning from the campaign. But the NATO Summit

649
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Speaker 2: goes on and there's gonna be some big news around that,

650
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Speaker 2: especially with the Russia and Ukraine. We're wrapping up another

651
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Speaker 2: grueling four hour workday. Lots of good stuff at Armstrong

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Speaker 2: and Getty dot com. We'll see tomorrow. God bless America.

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Speaker 2: I'm strong and getchy mag here tail. But it was hurt.

654
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: Oh lord, lower sas ow loud, Wow, same, what do you.

655
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: What you're doing?

656
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: Tar to do? They sah, they're not Armstrong and Getty