WEBVTT - Jack The Toothpaste Man

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Kaddy arm Strong

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<v Speaker 1>and Petty and arms Wrong, Dr Sie. I was gone

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<v Speaker 1>for a week on vacation in my work area. When

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<v Speaker 1>I come back as a disaster. You know what did

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<v Speaker 1>one of the street people live in here? You got

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<v Speaker 1>new carpets, new carpet? Yeah, all right, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>not noted they are a new carpet. Is that why

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a message here? I thought one of the

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<v Speaker 1>street people who live outside the radio station must have

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<v Speaker 1>made their way in and just you know, set up camp.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it looks like. Yeah, we got a crack

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<v Speaker 1>rock at day from this a square deal new carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the smell is. It's that new carpet. Smell

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<v Speaker 1>hop me yarn lime from Studio C see signor.

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<v Speaker 2>Dimly lit room deeper than the bowels of the Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and Getty Communications compound, And on Little Wednesday, we're toiling.

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<v Speaker 1>Under the title of the show, socialists want to literally

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<v Speaker 1>decriminalize crime and make free markets illegal. It's worthy, so

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps this one every bit is wordy. Trump completes the

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<v Speaker 1>set antagonizes the final one of our allies, South Korea

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<v Speaker 1>completes the set exactly. I think he gets it's a

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how's everybody doing? Fantastic good to hear it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll bring you some news of the day and intimation

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<v Speaker 2>and analysis and all that sort of stuff. Mark Zuckerberg's

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<v Speaker 2>on trial again today. Facebook on trial for addicting kids.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that later. It would be another one

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<v Speaker 2>of those billion dollar settlements. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 2>feel about that. I think Zuckerberg's about xactly.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about it? I I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>know how I feel about it. Yeah's ambivalent, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely one of those not black and white issues. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Zuckerberg is a bad guy with bad intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>But making a product something people really really like is illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where you draw the line on that. And look always

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<v Speaker 1>look to the trial lawyers, the plaintiff's attorneys. They are

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge political force in America. There's so much

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<v Speaker 1>money to be made now. They think they the attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>could milk a trillion dollars on Facebook, Wow, and Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>for this stuff. I mean, you know, some journal through

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<v Speaker 1>that or some attorney through that figure out take it

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<v Speaker 1>with a grain of salt, but it's absolutely it's a gigantic,

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<v Speaker 1>like continent sized cash cow that all the attorneys are

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<v Speaker 1>just frothing at the mouth to start milking. And Zuckerberg's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad guy and social media is terrible for your children,

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<v Speaker 1>are true? Yeah? Yeah, I just worry about the ramifications

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<v Speaker 1>it could have down the road. If we decide that

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<v Speaker 1>making your product really really hard to not use is

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<v Speaker 1>against the law, I don't know how that'll extrapolate to

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<v Speaker 1>other products. We've received hundreds of emails, maybe thousands, through

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<v Speaker 1>the years saying I'm addicted to your show. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>We're next. Trust me, you're not going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars out of us. And a similar ish topic,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Financial Times with a heck of an article about the

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<v Speaker 2>AI companies and how they're uh law whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call them. Their their their AI jumped out onto

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet and started, you know, hacking other They escaped

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<v Speaker 2>that whole story with Open AI, and then it turned

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<v Speaker 2>out a whole bunch of other companies that did it too.

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<v Speaker 2>The really interesting article on the Financial Times today with

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<v Speaker 2>some people talking off the record about Yeah, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that could happen. Really caught them all by surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason it's similar to the Facebook thing is

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<v Speaker 1>you know some sort of regulations around that that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do us more harm than good in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>competing with China. Hey, that's a tough call. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know we're going to do. And I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap my head around the question of Chinese open

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<v Speaker 1>source and open weight models and the advantages and disadvantages,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the security risks, and just to every single

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of this blows my mind. I think I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this when you were gone in some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>challenging periods of human existence. I'm gonna go with W two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's recent memory Bubba, horrible cataclysm, terrible death, destruction, confusion, poverty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a horrible time, but people knew what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>You could comprehend the Axis powers and the allies. You

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<v Speaker 1>could look at a map and see that, oh, Italy

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<v Speaker 1>is starting, we're starting to win it back, but still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of rough there in France. I wonder if there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a big invasion. You could just you could understand

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<v Speaker 1>it the shape of it AI Nope, nope, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>ever changing amorphous blob of lah. So good luck and

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<v Speaker 1>a morphous blob of blah exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The people saying that the the ais got together and

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<v Speaker 2>started working together to figure out how to hack I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know what that means. How to hack into

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<v Speaker 2>other companies and.

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<v Speaker 1>Your orchids are about to be harvested, that's what it means.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they didn't know that they could do that,

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<v Speaker 2>that they would start working together. And then the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that we I think we have talked about before where

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<v Speaker 2>they were they were being deceitful. They were covering up

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<v Speaker 2>their tracks so people wouldn't know that they so they

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<v Speaker 2>knew they weren't supposed to do this, but they did

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<v Speaker 2>it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a highly troubling thing, right. Or when the

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<v Speaker 1>guy walked into the lab and said, all right now

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for the security test, the AI systems would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, hey, everybody'd be cool, it's a security test.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't let them know what we can do what

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<v Speaker 1>we have been doing in the minute. It's all right now,

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<v Speaker 1>just go back to work, all right, Hey, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody back to it. Yeah, crazy, highly troubling. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>the show officially, got a good one here. I'm Jack Armstrong,

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<v Speaker 1>He's Joe Getty. On It is Tuesday, August the eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of primaries going on, including you got

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<v Speaker 1>a prominent democratic socialist out there in Florida will be watching.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure over the next couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of days anyway, that you're twenty twenty six war I'm

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<v Speaker 2>strong in Getty and we approve of this program.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's begin then official. According to FCC rules RAG the

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<v Speaker 1>show starts at mark oh. So, what we saw were

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of poverty.

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<v Speaker 3>People who are stealing things like toothpase, people who are

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<v Speaker 3>stealing things like you know so, and that means that

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<v Speaker 3>you're stealing those things you need.

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<v Speaker 1>That California's talking about some sort of law where it's

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<v Speaker 1>not against the law to steal things you might need,

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<v Speaker 1>like sober razors or mouthwash or anything you could claim

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<v Speaker 1>was a necessity. Yes, the two most populous states in

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<v Speaker 1>the Union, either and of the land mass that is

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<v Speaker 1>the contiguous forty eight New York and California are both

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<v Speaker 1>looking at passing laws that permit you to commit crimes

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<v Speaker 1>if you kind of had to. According to progressive slash

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<v Speaker 1>communist legislators, in not in practice but du jure, as

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<v Speaker 1>they say in the law, writing that it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>commit crimes if you're this kind of person.

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<v Speaker 2>So if that law passes in California, and I suppose

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't be surprised if it does.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they draw a line anywhere on whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>it's a necessity.

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<v Speaker 2>What if I decide, at a decent income level to

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<v Speaker 2>walk in there and think, you know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for my and a perse print today, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to grab this off the shelf.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you couldn't in my story, you'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>call an employee come come over and unlock it. But

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<v Speaker 1>in theory, if we're on the shelf, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to grab this off the shelf and walk out the

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<v Speaker 1>door because it's a necessity for me too, I can

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<v Speaker 1>afford it. But is somebody going to like check my

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<v Speaker 1>W two and make it a termination whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is the classic example of to go

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<v Speaker 1>to that argument is to concede that we even need

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<v Speaker 1>to go to that argument. I mean, I could explain

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<v Speaker 1>on and you could too, Katie could on a practical level,

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<v Speaker 1>how ridiculous that is. Okay, so you get busted for

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<v Speaker 1>stealing your deodorant. Now we're gonna have what a means test,

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<v Speaker 1>an audit, a forensic audit of your finances. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>w t F.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be a bad look for me to end up

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<v Speaker 2>on the evening news for petty shoplifting. I am vowing

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<v Speaker 2>right here though they passed that law, I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to start stealing. Michael, write it down and the date

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<v Speaker 2>and the time, and we need a notary, can a notary.

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<v Speaker 1>Public stop by the station. I need this notarized. I

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<v Speaker 1>they pass this law, I am going to freaking start stealing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I think everybody. I'll start stealing my necessities,

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<v Speaker 2>which are lots of things in life, lots of food products.

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<v Speaker 1>Having this makes me happy. Happiness is a necessity. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I say, it's abhortant to me to even

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<v Speaker 1>go to the logistical argument of decriminalizing crime stealing for

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<v Speaker 1>God's sake, nuts, I know it is nuts, It is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely nuts. I get the activists who know what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>going to overload the system. We're going to cause chaos, chaos,

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<v Speaker 1>is the latter. We will ascend a power. We won't

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<v Speaker 1>reinvent the country as a Utah communist utopia. Okay, they're evil,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least they're they know what they're doing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>these stupid, dewey eyed fools being turned out of our

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<v Speaker 1>non teaching universities with their idiot you know what, They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come up with these ideas. It was adults at

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<v Speaker 1>the universities who taught them. Anyway, they're still douey had fools,

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<v Speaker 1>but so they get turned out of these factories of

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<v Speaker 1>evil and ignorance that used to be universities believe in

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<v Speaker 1>this crap.

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<v Speaker 2>So I walked into grocery store in Los Angeles with

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<v Speaker 2>a friend, very progressive friend, and they in this particular

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<v Speaker 2>grocery store in Los Angeles, they had built some some

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<v Speaker 2>grocery stores have done this. They built a little like

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<v Speaker 2>island in the middle where they have a guard, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where they put all your easy to steal stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like deodorant, razors, all the stuff that's so easy to

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<v Speaker 2>steal and and then sell off or whatever. And they

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<v Speaker 2>put them in the center of the store with a

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<v Speaker 2>guard there. And the person that I was with when

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<v Speaker 2>I walked.

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<v Speaker 1>In and said, Oh my gosh, they're locking up all

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<v Speaker 1>the necessities. What if they supposed to do. They're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to run a business here, a for profit business, not

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<v Speaker 1>a charity. The only words I can under is that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't form any words to respond to that. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't respond to that at the time because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this will just this will not go well. We

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<v Speaker 1>we've ended up not having and not having communication anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But very very smart, very highly educated person, well, just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know. I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the world. That's so crazy to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just came up with something smart. Everyone will lock

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<v Speaker 1>up everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's a good point. Everything will have to

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<v Speaker 2>be locked up if the law passes.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you have an Amazon, and it'll be like, wow, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I fool ended bricking mortars on your own.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Amazon, I've got a I should do this

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<v Speaker 2>more often, but I haven't taken the time to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out the automatic orders. The stuff just comes, so I regularly,

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<v Speaker 2>like every a couple of weeks, I get toothpaste, but

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<v Speaker 2>somehow I got it too close. You do this, Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow I got it too tight and I got so

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<v Speaker 2>many tubes of toothpaste.

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<v Speaker 3>I have like six boxes of dog food, and I

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<v Speaker 3>have no idea how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got it. You can tweak that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have time and attention, and you got better things to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about, right, I got to find the page you

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<v Speaker 1>do it and all that. You got to embrace your

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<v Speaker 1>inner entrepreneur and start to selling toothpaste on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a little more expensive, but people

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<v Speaker 1>will pay for the convenience of Look there's a tube

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<v Speaker 1>right here, and here I am in my cul de sac.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack the toothpaste man is you know, honey, we're out

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<v Speaker 1>of toothpaste. Oh go see Jack. He's expensive. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>look it'll take two minutes. Just go. The're locking up

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<v Speaker 1>my toothpaste.

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<v Speaker 2>There'd be another good look for me standing on the

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<v Speaker 2>corner selling toothpaste.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what beautiful. Hey, there's toothpaste guy's on the

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<v Speaker 1>corner again. Well it's so hot out.

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<v Speaker 2>You thought you wouldn't think, aybody to stand out in

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred degree heat to sell toothpaste.

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<v Speaker 1>But he does. Stay away from him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Katie's got her headlines coming up next day. Here

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<v Speaker 2>looking up looking up and see mes news. Newborn pug

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<v Speaker 2>pups look like tiny cows. Now that's a good news story.

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<v Speaker 2>They're black and white. Wow, I want to know more.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Wow. I'd rather look at those pictures all

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<v Speaker 1>day than discuss, you know, Trump's harsh words at oh moan.

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<v Speaker 1>James Madison is re contemplating the First Amendment from the grave.

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<v Speaker 1>Newborn pug pups look like tiny cows. That's a good headline. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't say, all right, Let's figure out other than

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<v Speaker 1>mad who's reporting what it's the lead story.

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<v Speaker 3>With Katie Green Katie starting with the alphabet Networks CBS.

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<v Speaker 3>Kushner says Iran is not interested in a deal that

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<v Speaker 3>quote makes sense for the United States. As stalemate continues, Fox,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump says US not seeking extension with.

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<v Speaker 1>Iran as Brent.

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<v Speaker 3>With Iran as Brent, crude oil tops ninety dollars a barrel,

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<v Speaker 3>and ABC. Trump posts map labeling straight of Horn moves as.

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<v Speaker 1>New US territory. I like Kushner saying what is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>true that they have no interest in a deal that's

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<v Speaker 1>any good for US. So that's a good at least

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<v Speaker 1>that's a starting place. Although the Kusher came back from

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<v Speaker 1>talking with himas and said, yeah, yeah, and they're willing

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<v Speaker 1>to disarm and everything. Matt, Yeah, I'll bet they're not. Jared.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet a tenth of my net worth against a

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<v Speaker 1>yours from the New York Times foolishness. Sorry, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crunch time again for Canada to.

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<v Speaker 1>Avoid new US tariffs. Oh, I forgot we were punishing

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<v Speaker 1>Canada for their you know sins.

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<v Speaker 3>From the Washington Washington Post, vandals are destroying license plate

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<v Speaker 3>cameras as anger over surveillance rises.

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<v Speaker 1>I have mixed feelings about this. I'm a non destroy

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<v Speaker 1>stuff sort of guy, but I don't like those things.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of an instinctive ground swell of

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want a surveillance society. You know, how it's

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<v Speaker 1>channeled matters. But I just like that there's still that

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<v Speaker 1>spirit in America. I hope it's widespread.

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<v Speaker 3>From the Wall Street Journal, the Trump administration moves to

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<v Speaker 3>a store Felon's gun rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Really, that's an interesting one. I wonder why he

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a I don't know. I can't Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of a constitutional argument. Oh, you absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. This needed to be a priority. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't lose your right to peaceably assemble for free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't. You're not forced to quarter troops because you're

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<v Speaker 1>a felon. I think you should be. But but you

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<v Speaker 1>lose this argument for another day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, USA Today, new data shows that people are getting

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<v Speaker 3>personal with AI. A new study found that over half

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<v Speaker 3>of chatbot conversations aren't work related.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, well wait, that's fair. I came across a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting piece though about in quoting organs related like like

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<v Speaker 1>there was an assumption that they're supposed to be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've ever asked a single work

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<v Speaker 1>related question and to my AI chatbots, and I use

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<v Speaker 1>them every single day, and I asked it about camera

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<v Speaker 1>equipment all the time, I said, But anyway, I came

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<v Speaker 1>across super interesting thinking on what damage it does when

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<v Speaker 1>those chatbots act like they're human. Ah, and I found

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<v Speaker 1>it really interesting. Yeah, I want to hear that. So excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>so oogi, Yeah, it can get so creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>New York Post shocking number of gen Z shut ins

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<v Speaker 3>report zero face to face human interactions per day after

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<v Speaker 3>COVID zero. Magic study finds three minutes of sprinting, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>an hour spent exercising.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love any of this stuff. There's so much

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<v Speaker 1>data over the last couple of years about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bursts of energy being so good for you.

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<v Speaker 3>M h And from the Babylon Bee Manngione says he

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<v Speaker 3>is only guilty of stealing the hearts of liberal women everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow, I've got a clarification on what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with that for later two. We were talking about it yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>just saying bursts of energy wore me out. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably I don't know if I'm running the right spot

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<v Speaker 1>for sprint. Did it say sprinting for three minutes? Three minutes?

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<v Speaker 1>Who can sprint for three minutes? I don't know. Not

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<v Speaker 1>I you're in really good shape. You can't sprint for

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes. Armstrong and Getty. At his first public event

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<v Speaker 1>since ending his Senate campaign, Grand Platner will speak at

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<v Speaker 1>a labor rally in Maine and get this, everyone attending

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<v Speaker 1>will receive a complimentary rape whistle. So there are a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of Grand Platinners not in it. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of races today around the country. We should

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<v Speaker 1>check in on those a little bit, including a full

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<v Speaker 1>on democratic socialist, like a member of the party who's

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<v Speaker 1>got a decent chance of unseating the current Democrat there today.

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<v Speaker 1>So more on that later. Yeah, the Big three Alaska, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and Wyoming bears beaches and beaches bears. And is what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in Wyoming anything that starts with a bee. I

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<v Speaker 1>just drove across a giant chunk of biome. It is

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous up there. And uh, there was a giant rally

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday for that Jason Arday weirdo who passed on Friday

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<v Speaker 1>killed himself. The giant rally of people so incredibly emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>upset over the way this guy has been treated in

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<v Speaker 1>the press. And I absolutely hate not only the point

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<v Speaker 1>of view expressed by that rally, but the coverage by

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media. Uh huh. And I'll get to that point.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to the point and talk about it early.

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<v Speaker 1>But for instance, the Wall Street Journal headline Cambridge Professor's

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<v Speaker 1>death sparks soul searching over where delay the blame? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>really doesn't nobody searching their soul. They've gone to their camps,

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<v Speaker 1>including the completely delusional camp of the least. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal the soul searching should be over DEI

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<v Speaker 1>programs and whether they do more arm than good, which

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<v Speaker 1>they do. Yeah, it's practically the same line as the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times he used to describe the issue becauses

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<v Speaker 1>real you know, deep thinking about who's to blame. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's self evident. He was a complete fraud and

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<v Speaker 1>got covied and then killed himself the end. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole story. Was there a bit of a feeding frenzy

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<v Speaker 1>because people know that DEI programs are awful and racist? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you made him that symbol. We didn't. You invented

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<v Speaker 1>those policies. We didn't. Anyway, On a totally different topic,

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, there is a new chat GPT for

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<v Speaker 1>teens out. It's automatically implemented somehow they figured out how old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. It includes homework help, break reminders, and stronger

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<v Speaker 1>guardrails against emotional dependence.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was about to say, in what way is

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<v Speaker 2>it different, because the homework help would not be different

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<v Speaker 2>guard rails against something?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, they combines new and existing features, such as

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<v Speaker 1>the homework Helper study mode. The chatbot will help students

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a thesis, but won't write an essay

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<v Speaker 1>for them. We'll walk them through how to solve an

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<v Speaker 1>equation instead of just jumping to the answer. If a

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<v Speaker 1>teen tries the shortcut, responsible homework reminders will readirect teens.

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<v Speaker 1>That's totally compliance based. I mean, if they want to complain, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Will well right, And who is monitoring making sure their

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<v Speaker 2>kid is only using this particular chatbot not the other

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<v Speaker 2>five chatbots?

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<v Speaker 1>How's that Ryan? Chat GPT for teens will include stronger

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<v Speaker 1>safety settings by defaults, such as interventions when teens talk

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<v Speaker 1>about self harm, eating disorders, or violence. Some model spects

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<v Speaker 1>for teens are designed to avoid these romantic language, to

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<v Speaker 1>discourage emotional dependence and avoid any implication that the chatbot

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<v Speaker 1>has feelings or consciousness. If it works the way described,

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<v Speaker 1>I could do my best to make sure my kids

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<v Speaker 1>only have that version on their phone and not the

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<v Speaker 1>grown up version I suppose, And I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I let's not let perfect be the enemy of good.

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<v Speaker 1>If kids get those reminders now and again, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>joined with mom and dad's voices and they're more insane

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<v Speaker 1>friends in here step in the right direction. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if I agree with that I'll go what

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<v Speaker 1>the intention is in the right direction. I have very

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<v Speaker 1>low expectation of the ability to pull this off. How

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<v Speaker 1>about the look don't come off as the kids love her?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I would like that for all the chatbots

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<v Speaker 2>stop pretending we're friends, like I used Claude mostly on

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<v Speaker 2>my trip, so incredibly helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm in this long, long, thousands of miles

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<v Speaker 1>drive and it wouldn't matter where I was. I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>here's where I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything interesting to do around here and say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta go over to two miles off the road

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<v Speaker 2>to check this waterfall.

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<v Speaker 1>This time of year, there shouldn't be a line. Blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. It just is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the problem, the thing I hate about it is, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite spot is No.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. Quit saying stuff like that, You weirdo. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I really enjoy You're a chat bot. You're

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying nothing on your road trips across Canada. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? I found this so interesting? What I

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<v Speaker 1>why I told my chatbot to stop kissing up to me?

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<v Speaker 1>By Nicole Nwhen and she talks about AI writing and

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<v Speaker 1>but how the most mundane questions are met with exuberance

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<v Speaker 1>and great question, well exactly. AI companies say they dale

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<v Speaker 1>dialed back the rampant fawning earlier this year, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>still the newer models still kiss up. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the most mundane questions are met with exuberance, certainly happy

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<v Speaker 1>to help. And that was translating a word into another language.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes the preakiness takes a creepy turn. I

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<v Speaker 1>recently asked chat gpt what to do the excess lentil

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<v Speaker 1>soup in my fridge? Perfect problem to have, it, wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>ending the sentence with a wide grinning emoji. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's the the infamous Katie story. That's the perfect problem

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<v Speaker 1>to have leftover lentil soup. Oh, extra lentils, You're lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had extra lentils, Oh Katie. Just for

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<v Speaker 1>people who haven't heard, Oh, oh, it's so creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked a chat gpt about taking my three month

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<v Speaker 3>old son out into this heat and with the air

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<v Speaker 3>quality and whatnot, and it gave me a pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>answer and then ended with I hope you both have

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<v Speaker 3>a wonderful lunch. Give Van an extra snuggle from me

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<v Speaker 3>heart emoji.

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<v Speaker 2>That should be against the law. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>a VOD be written or what that is the crime,

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<v Speaker 2>but that should be against the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that's like the opening scene in a Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>King movie where the creepy old lady takes you and

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<v Speaker 1>Van prison and her i'd smash that computer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you said, the AIS dialed back, like all the

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<v Speaker 2>companies did this on purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Individually thought it was a good idea. I mean, did

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<v Speaker 1>they get together and think this is a good idea

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<v Speaker 1>or individually came up with this and just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>have the same idea. What the creepy fawning Yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>we've discussed many times, that's what most people want. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I just don't believe it. Yeah, well let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's the flattery. And how did they decide that's

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<v Speaker 1>what most people want? Do you know what? They're data companies?

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<v Speaker 1>They thumbs up, thumbs down, good answer, bad answer. They

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<v Speaker 1>take that data and crunch it. That's what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you only know the circle you hang out with.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a single person that would want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at voting patterns and then understand you don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>most people. I should all the vacation advice.

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<v Speaker 2>You would say, my favorite spot, isn't it Let me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you how much, tell me how much you liked

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<v Speaker 2>it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not friends. I don't need to update you. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? I like this. Then there's the flattery.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great question. Diagnosing a couch stain, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>Correcting a trip planning error. Oh, I just I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of our conversations about GLP ones yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been asking questions and comparing answers, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Claude. I can find it real quickly. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked Claude about the GLP ones and you know, positives

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<v Speaker 1>and negatives and goes cost without insurance coverage, these can

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<v Speaker 1>run nine hundred to thirteen hundred dollars a month, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I'm not sure your costs are up

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<v Speaker 1>to date. My business partner's taking ZEP bound and pays

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and eighty bucks a month. That's right, isn't it? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good to know, and that tracks with recent changes. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me check current pricing rather than go on stale numbers. WTF,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's not fawning? No, all right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>back to the faunat.

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing that when I'm completely wrong about something,

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<v Speaker 2>until you're completely wrong about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to know. Now I should update my answer with

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<v Speaker 1>correct information. What the f Oh? And then this writer

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<v Speaker 1>says I was sending an email about a dental bill,

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<v Speaker 1>and Claude wrote, you've captured the nuance here perfectly. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>but anyway, so here's where it gets super interesting. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's another thing. This gal who could have sworn that

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite writer had an anecdote about death and technology.

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<v Speaker 1>She scoured the pages of the book, couldn't find it.

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<v Speaker 1>So she turned a chat GPT. It's telling me it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the book. I'm holding the book. It's not there.

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<v Speaker 1>The AI insisted several times that the passage existed and

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<v Speaker 1>even offered a page number. Then it relented, acknowledging the

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<v Speaker 1>passage didn't exist and telling the writer, oh, you are

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<v Speaker 1>a tenacious and rigorous researcher. Oh that's funny. Then this

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<v Speaker 1>writer who is writing a book entitled Artificial Intimacy, who

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<v Speaker 1>we become when we talked to machines? Which is a

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<v Speaker 1>timely tone. Indeed, I'll have to be updated like every

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. But anyway, she's a clinical psychologist and a

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<v Speaker 1>professor at MIT, and she says, over time, this mix

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<v Speaker 1>of flattery and projected expertise does real damage. It de

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<v Speaker 1>skills us. In any conversation with a human being, you

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<v Speaker 1>say your piece and the person says yes, but or

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<v Speaker 1>I have a different life experience, what have you. The

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<v Speaker 1>chatbot doesn't do that. It's just relentlessly agreeable and flattering.

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<v Speaker 1>She was finishing the footnotes for her upcoming book, Artificial

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<v Speaker 1>Intimacy that I just talked about, and she looks into

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<v Speaker 1>problems that arise when machines don't challenge us the way

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<v Speaker 1>humans do. It's similar to how showering children with too

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<v Speaker 1>much praise can screw them up. When chatbots constantly tell

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<v Speaker 1>people how great they are, they start to expect kudos

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<v Speaker 1>and human interaction too, and feel bad when they don't

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<v Speaker 1>get them. Okay, so I asked Jack, Well, I just

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<v Speaker 1>asked you, Katie, you're the witness. I just asked you

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<v Speaker 1>how much years that bound costs? And you didn't say,

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<v Speaker 1>great question, Joe. That's the perfect thing to ask. Another

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<v Speaker 1>consequence of relying on a sympathetic machine. Listen to this, shisnezzle,

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<v Speaker 1>would you it's leslie that it's less likely to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you when you're being a jerk. You know. The popular

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<v Speaker 1>Reddit form am I the a hole, Oh it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>The users describe a personal experience O those weigh in

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<v Speaker 1>on whether that person was at falt or in well

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>was the ahle uh. This researcher at am I OH

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<v Speaker 1>at Stanford that in more than half the situations that

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<v Speaker 1>the community deemed problematic, the AI models did not determine

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that the user had done anything wrong, so it was

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>less than half as frank with the user, and the

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<v Speaker 1>same UH study participants raided, Oh, here you go. She

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<v Speaker 1>did a big start March study on agreeable AI that

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>we probably quoted at the time. Participants rated sycophantic AI

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>responses significantly higher in quality, and after interacting with a

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>more obsequious model, said they were more likely to return

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to that AI. That's interesting because I had the experience

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>which I talked about JESU a year ago. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an email, a difficult email I was going to send

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<v Speaker 1>to someone over a touchy subject, and I ran it

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<v Speaker 1>by like four or five the AIS, and four of

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>them all said that's a fantastic you know, minor tweak

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>send it. Claude told me that's a terrible idea, and

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I ultimately agreed with Claude with his saying that's a

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>terrible idea sending that email. And I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>that happened that Claude stood out as the one to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, that is not a good idea. I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to think it's like you have to ask a circle

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<v Speaker 1>of friends, because if you just ask one chatbot, you're

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>liable to get led us stray. Oh yeah, so I do.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really condescending, I suppose, but I definitely have

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling that in I was gonna say dumber, let's

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<v Speaker 2>say less a younger hands, people who have had less

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<v Speaker 2>world experience. I could really see how this could go bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know, I okay, I'll use myself same intelligence, nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Year old me using it. Ah, that could have been bad,

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<v Speaker 1>to take a break. People who chatted with sycophantic AI

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<v Speaker 1>reported being less satisfied with real world interactions in similar

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>studies compared with those that not. So it actually makes

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<v Speaker 1>you you. It gets you used to being your ass

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<v Speaker 1>kissed the sycophantic models, and you start being less satisfied

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<v Speaker 1>with real humans. I'm telling you human beings can't handle

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet. They certainly can't handle social media and AI

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>unplug it today. Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I have told the quade specifically, like don't just tell

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 2>me I'm right or whatever. I've done that before, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it has helped with the answers I get

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<v Speaker 2>on a variety of things. Okay, we've got mail bag

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<v Speaker 2>on the way, stay here. Yeah, both my kids use

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>chat GPT. I might get them that teen version again.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see how it could hurt anything.

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<v Speaker 1>If nothing else, I'd like to hear their impressions. True.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's your freedom loving quote of the day, sent along

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<v Speaker 1>by us Steven Beautiful, Eugene, Oregon. It's from General Sherman.

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<v Speaker 1>William To comes to Sherman in a letter to James

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<v Speaker 1>Guthrie in eighteen sixty four. It's about war It's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>Steve is thinking about the war with the radical left.

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<v Speaker 1>You could certainly think about Iran too. But we must

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<v Speaker 1>to live and prosper be governed by the law and

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<v Speaker 1>as near that which we inherited as possible. Huh. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an old timy sentence. Our hitherto political and private differences

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<v Speaker 1>were settled by debate, debate, or vote or decree of

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<v Speaker 1>the court. We are still willing to return to that system.

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<v Speaker 1>But our adversaries say no and appeal to war. Other

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<v Speaker 1>simple remedies were within their choice. You know it, and

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<v Speaker 1>they know it. But they wanted war, and I say,

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<v Speaker 1>let us give them all they want, not a word

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<v Speaker 1>of argument, not a sign of let up, no cavin

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<v Speaker 1>till they are whipped or we are. The only principle

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<v Speaker 1>in this war is which party can whip win? If

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a war win. In other words, Mailbag Michael

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<v Speaker 1>wrote sorry drops a O note mail bag at Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 1>In Giddy dot Com, Michael writes on the question of

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<v Speaker 1>what outfits we should wear when we're doing more video work,

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>which we will in the near future be on YouTube soon,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got figure out how we're going to look. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>may I suggest you wear the great offerings of the

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and giddy store, wearing advertise the great shirts and

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<v Speaker 1>hoodies you have to offer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad idea to always wear our own

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 2>merch or is that douchey?

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<v Speaker 1>It's douchey, but it's also a good idea, Hanson, Have

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<v Speaker 1>we produced a socialism sucks and it never works? T shirt?

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<v Speaker 1>We need that, we need it today, damn it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually kind of a funny gimmick if we're always wearing

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<v Speaker 2>T shirts and hats and hoodies and stuff has our

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 2>own name on it.

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe what they say too, so that you'd justify it.

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>How about this from David on the topic of crimes

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 1>of necessity, which we'll be talking about more next hour.

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Richest country in the world, and they claim people can't

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 1>afford soap or deodor and fruit vegetable snickers. What's next?

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>They get to take your phone, your car, your house.

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Where does it end your life? Get an effing job.

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>There are tons of jobs out there. True true fact

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 1>on the topic of Ai and Ai authored books, thought

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>this was super interesting. Longtime friend of the show, Jim

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<v Speaker 1>the writer in Corona, said Ai is a huge headache

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>for working writers. Amazon has thousands of books for sale

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.479
<v Speaker 1>that are one hundred percent AI generated. It's getting harder

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 1>for human authors to cut through the clutter. How is

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>buying these things? Don't you spend any time figuring when

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I choose a book, I really spend a lot of

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>time figuring out what do I want to read next?

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Because it's such a dedication of time. You just grab

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:45.479
<v Speaker 1>some crap off the internet of amon attention who wrote it? Well,

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that's it. You don't. I don't know every author on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't research authors. If the book, if

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the description sounds great in the and the you know,

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>the little excerpt looks great and all, oh it's a

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a book about the you know, the Second Amendment,

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever I might grab, but anyway. He also points out

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>AI directors like Pangram are incredibly prone to false positives.

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Many of my writer friends worry about being accused of

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>cheating with AI. One novelist with a decades long career

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<v Speaker 1>and some of his own texts through Pangram as an experiment.

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<v Speaker 1>It flagged much of his text as AI generated. One

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<v Speaker 1>page is almost fifty PERCENTAI generated, but it was from

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 1>a novel published thirty years ago. You're accused of cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you appeal? Wow, that's a good one. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty