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Speaker 1: and Out Podcast, Bye bye, Aaron Rodgers. Hello, Well, I

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Speaker 1: guess it's not hello lies because they're going home too.

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Speaker 1: But what a Sunday night game? That was bananas? Uh.

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Speaker 1: The two night games Saturday and Sunday night lived up

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Speaker 1: to the hype. The rest of the weekend not so much.

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Speaker 1: But playoffs stuff. A lot going on. Rogers, how do

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Speaker 1: you shake that? I mean, that's that's a terrible loss.

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Speaker 1: We will dive into that, uh, dive into some other

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Speaker 1: playoffs scenarios in terms of, you know, the Steelers are out,

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Speaker 1: enjoyed them as a wide receiver coach. Most people that

426
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Speaker 1: we're around Dave and Collie laughed out loud when he

427
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Speaker 1: was named the head coach. The Houston Texans now have

428
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Speaker 1: gone back to back seasons with one and done coaches,

429
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Speaker 1: and they're a good example. And I said, Sean Payton's

430
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: talked a lot. He talked about this this morning on

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Speaker 1: Fox with Shreeker. He he talks about this when he's

432
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Speaker 1: on with Coward. I've heard him on was Uh podcast

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Speaker 1: talk about it. He's adamant the most important thing in

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Speaker 1: an organization. When it comes to the NFL, everyone thinks like, oh,

435
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Speaker 1: I need a quarterback, Oh I need a quarterback. He's like,

436
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Speaker 1: I didn't go to the Saints. We didn't have a quarterback.

437
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: We signed Drew Brees that offseason, but no one knew

438
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees was Drew Brees. So I went to that

439
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: organization because I believed in the vision from the ownership

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Speaker 1: and the general manager. That's the most important aspect of

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Speaker 1: an organization, the cohesiveness from owner, GM, coach, everyone rowing

442
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 1: in the same boat. Now, I've heard this from several

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Speaker 1: people that Cal McNair, the son of you know, I

444
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: think r I p his dad on Gone, is a moron,

445
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: an idiot, has no business running a team. Now, you

446
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: could probably say that for a lot of teams Mark

447
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: Davis Bidwell, you know, there's a lot of these teams

448
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: that are complete embarrassment. Are kids of former successful owners, Like,

449
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: that's just a reality. He can't fire owners, as Jed

450
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: York once said. Problem for the NFL, Well, I guess

451
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: not really, because the good teams like those teams sucking.

452
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Speaker 1: Like you think Clark Hunt minds that the Raiders are

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Speaker 1: a disaster or the Broncos another ship together. You think

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan minds that Michael Bidwell doesn't know what the

455
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Speaker 1: hell he's doing. Of course not, but it's just a reality.

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Speaker 1: And the Texans right now just don't feel like there's

457
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Speaker 1: any cohesiveness. And Casirio I don't know much about him,

458
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: never met the guy. Besides just Patriot guys consistently fail

459
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Speaker 1: when they get their opportunities to succeed. Though. I remember

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00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: when he made the Deshaun Watson trade, which was a

461
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: heist that was highway robbery. Have you watched Shawn Watson.

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Speaker 1: I get he hasn't played in a long time, but

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Speaker 1: I saw someone put this on Twitter today. It's like, listen,

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Speaker 1: I have to Shaun the benefit out the first couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. But after like five games, if you look

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Speaker 1: worse than Jared's Stidham right or Brock Purty or some

467
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: of these guys, David blow like, we got issue. You

468
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: look terrible. They gave you two hundred and thirty guaranteed

469
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Speaker 1: and they traded countless first round picks for you, So

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Speaker 1: this he might not be any good. So to trade

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Speaker 1: a guy for that much who was never gonna play

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Speaker 1: for your franchise again is a good trade. It's an

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Speaker 1: excellent trade. There there's a chance of the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: and the Denver Broncos have two players who are making

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Speaker 1: combined guaranteed money like five million dollars, who just stick? Now,

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Speaker 1: you would say to Shawn, would be less likely to stink,

477
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Speaker 1: given that he's way younger. But who knows, maybe his massage,

478
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: escapade's mindset, ability to compartmentalize, he can't do it anymore,

479
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: and he's just gonna unravel who it's It's pretty ugly

480
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: so far. Brown's fans, you have to admit that. But

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Speaker 1: NICKI serio keeps hiring these coaches I get Last year,

482
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: nobody would touch the job. He hired David Kelley. He

483
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: was a one and done from the moment he hired him.

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Speaker 1: And even this last season with Lovey Smith, clearly a

485
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Speaker 1: lot of people thought that place was toxic. Maybe now

486
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Speaker 1: because they have these picks, they're gonna have cap space

487
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Speaker 1: a little less toxic. You have to hire a coach

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Speaker 1: that you think could be a good head coach. What

489
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Speaker 1: is the point in hiring these guys? If you think

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassario thought Lovey Smith was good last year when

491
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Speaker 1: he hired him, you're just crazy. He knew he sucked

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Speaker 1: the organ, Like his resume spoke for itself, he sucked

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Speaker 1: for years. It made absolutely no sense beside the fact

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Speaker 1: that could they get no one else to take the job. Now,

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Speaker 1: all rumors, in all signs point that they're gonna hire

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Speaker 1: Gannon the offensive coordinator for the Philadelphia or I guess

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for the Philadelphi Eagles, or hire one

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Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia I'm I got a lot of coaches

499
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Speaker 1: in my mind right now, but one of the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles assistant coaches, which again you would think that guy

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Speaker 1: would have a little more high upside, younger guy. Here's

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00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: my question is Case Sarrio if he is able to

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Speaker 1: survive and and Jay Glazer reported that he might get

504
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: fired to who knows? I mean, that place is a disaster.

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00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: And ultimately you can blame the or you can blame

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Speaker 1: the general manager, you can blame the coaches. Do you

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Speaker 1: notice consistently these bad organizations are run by terrible owners?

508
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Speaker 1: Like why do the Raiders always suck? Mark Davis is

509
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Speaker 1: their owner? Like this year the Cardinals were terrible? Well, yeah,

510
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: most years when Michael Bidwell owns the team, it's not

511
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Speaker 1: very good. Most years with the Houston Texans, they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be good as long as this guy owns the team.

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Speaker 1: Why do the Washington football team commanders always not make

514
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Speaker 1: the playoffs because Dan Snyder is a shitty owner. Ownership really, really, matters.

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Speaker 1: Are they coaching wide receivers on how to run out

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Speaker 1: routes or coaching defensive backs what coverages the play? Of

517
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: course not, but we have a long history. Now, I

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Speaker 1: would say in all the pro sports the importance and

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00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: the influence that bad ownership has, it's consistent, and the

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Speaker 1: bad ownership in this league is pretty pretty evident on

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Speaker 1: a yearly basis. And speaking of the Texans, they blew.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing about not having a cohesive today,

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Speaker 1: this morning, and really for the last week, everyone knew

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Speaker 1: Lovey Smith was gonna get fired. So Lovey Smith was

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Speaker 1: gonna get fired. You obviously sucked all season long, and

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Speaker 1: now you want to lose these last couple of games.

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Speaker 1: But Lovey Smith, what does he have to lose. He's

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Speaker 1: trying to win some games. You're never gonna be a

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Speaker 1: head coach again. They win this game today, they lose

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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick little Lucky that it's not

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Speaker 1: exactly like Andrew Luck in this draft, but still, what

532
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Speaker 1: is the point in being terrible all season long and

533
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Speaker 1: then losing Week eighteen? There is none. It's terrible business.

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Speaker 1: And that's ultimately what this is. It's a business. Now

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Speaker 1: the Bears, who I don't know if you've noticed, have

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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. They've lost ten straight games.

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Speaker 1: Ten Fields didn't play today, but still they lost a

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Speaker 1: lot of games when Justin Fields was playing. It did

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Speaker 1: hit me today that their general manager, in their head

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Speaker 1: coach did not draft Justin Fields. Didn't do it now.

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Speaker 1: I like Justin Fields. I loved him coming out in

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Speaker 1: the draft. I would have I thought he should have

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Speaker 1: gone number two overall to the Jets. I wanted the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners to take him at number three. Clearly, a

545
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Speaker 1: lot of people in the league didn't think I was

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Speaker 1: right because the league did not view Justin Fields like

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Speaker 1: I viewed Justin Fields. I don't pretend to be Bill

548
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Speaker 1: Walsher Bill Parcels here, but I'd say that one's age

549
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: pretty well. I do wonder if people really really like

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young now. I think coming out of college, Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young is a better quarterback, a more natural pastor a

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Speaker 1: more natural field for the passing game. Fields is a

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00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: much bigger, superior athlete. He is going into his third season,

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Speaker 1: and he does have a lot of value. You don't

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Speaker 1: think it team like the football team Commanders. Some of

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Speaker 1: these teams would trade for him. If the Bears front

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00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: office was not a huge believer in Fields when they

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00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: were with their other teams, you know, when he was

559
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, and then he comes there. It's not

560
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: like Fields one of a bunch of games. Now there's

561
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Speaker 1: a lot to be excited about. He has a high ceiling,

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00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: but a lot of guys with high ceilings never get there.

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Speaker 1: You could justify, or it wouldn't totally shock me if

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Speaker 1: we see some rumors the Bears would entertain taking some

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Speaker 1: calls Onjustin Fields, getting a bunch of draft capital, and

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Speaker 1: then just drafting Bryce Young and starting from scratch with

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Speaker 1: his rookie contract. I do wonder if that's on the

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Speaker 1: table right now. I'm not saying I would do that,

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Speaker 1: But this is a team. Never forget that traded Chase Claypool.

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Speaker 1: To the excuse me, they traded for Chase Claypool. These

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Speaker 1: are second round pick. Well, when you have the number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick, where's your second round pick? Let's pick

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Speaker 1: thirty three. It's actually picked thirty two because the Amy

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Speaker 1: Dolphins got there first round or taken away this year.

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Speaker 1: So if you're the Bears, you've got a long way

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Speaker 1: to go. I know, you were competitive this year, but

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Speaker 1: you actually stink. So I think everything's on the table

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Speaker 1: with them, especially when you have a head coach and

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Speaker 1: a general manager that had nothing to do with the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And last, but not least, the New York Jets. I've

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Speaker 1: been saying this for a while, if you've listened to

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00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: the show, that someone in the league told me a

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00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: while ago. The Jets had eight premium picks and they

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Speaker 1: hit basically on seven of them, and they missed on one.

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: And if you reversed it, and they missed on seven,

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00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: but they hit on the one, and that one was

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00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the head coachs and the GM would get extensions.

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00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: That's the way the NFL works. You draft Mahomes, you

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00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: draft Josh Allen, you draft Lamar, you get job security.

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00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: You could draft left tackles, you can draft linebackers, you

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00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: can draft cornerbacks, you can draft running backs, all pros

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00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: and Pro bowlers. But if you whiff on the quarterback,

593
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in trouble because ultimately it's a quarterback league.

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00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: You need your quarterback to function at a relatively high level.

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00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: The forty Niners are having success right now. Obviously they

596
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: have a very talented team. But Brock Purty is throwing

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00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: multiple touchdowns every single game. They're passing game is explosive.

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00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: And the Jets who took Zach Wilson number two overall,

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00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: which there's a young man from Utah Provo, Utah to

600
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: the New York City, like it couldn't be any more extremes.

601
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: I've been to both places. They're the polar opposite of

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Speaker 1: each other. And Joe Douglas did a good job. He's

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00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: drafted a lot of really good players. Robert Sala feels

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00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: like a solid head coach. But there are rumors this

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00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: morning that everything is on the table with Woody Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't fire these guys. I would stand pat

607
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: but I do understand if you put yourself in the

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00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: her shoes, you go. It's one thing to miss on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback or have the quarterback have a slow transitional

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Speaker 1: period in his younger career. It's another thing to tack

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Speaker 1: take Zack Wilson, who last week the offensive coordinator said, yeah,

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00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 1: and hindsight, we screwed up. We should have eased him

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Speaker 1: into his career. Robert Sala says he just needs to

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00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: get away and read a book. And then it hit

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Speaker 1: me today when I'm watching the Dolphins game. They're not

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Speaker 1: playing for anything. Today was not a winner get in game.

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00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: They're just playing for pride. Today would be the type

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Speaker 1: day is like, let's Zach get out there and get

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Speaker 1: some reps. And it never crossed their mind to start

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. If anything, they didn't want Zack Wilson close

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Speaker 1: to the field at all. They think Zack Wilson is

622
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: either a terrible human, a terrible football player, or a

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00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: combination of him both. And if I'm the owner, our

624
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: franchise was gonna hinge on that number to pick. If

625
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: this guy was just a decent player, the top player

626
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: turns out with our team, we had a chance. He's

627
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the NFL the world. Obviously, there

628
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: are probably some backups worse than him, but there's clears

629
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Speaker 1: the backups better. The worst starting quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 1: this year Zach Wilson, and let's face it, starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's not gonna be a starting quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the foreseeable future, if ever again. So the Jets made

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00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: their bed, or you know, created this mess, and now

634
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: they kind of gotta lie in the situation. So these

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00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: rumors about Robert Salomon, Joe Douglas's job security, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's as crazy as like like Mike McDaniel, Well,

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Speaker 1: the fun was Mike McDaniel supposed to do. The team was,

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Speaker 1: you know, offensively, they were really good, and the quarterback

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Speaker 1: got concussion after concussion, after concussion. He inherited this quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he went to the owner. He went

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Speaker 1: to the GMS. Like, I got this guy. His name's

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Speaker 1: tatnaby Loa. He's from Hawaii. He's coming with me and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna win games. I just showed up. I told

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Speaker 1: you guys, I could resurrect him. I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 1: tool fan, but he definitely resurrected him. The only time

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Speaker 1: to really thinks is when his head's getting bounced off

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Speaker 1: the surface. So to me, the rumors up Mike mcgainal

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Speaker 1: losing his job, Like what, But I understand the Jets Like,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Woody Johnson, you tell me what this roster.

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Speaker 1: Let me get a guy that knows quarterbacks, Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. So I would guess. In the next couple

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Speaker 1: of days, we start hearing rumors about the Jets, even

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Speaker 1: if they don't fire these guys about Woody Johnson doing

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Speaker 1: some due diligence, even though I don't even think there's

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Speaker 1: due diligences to be done. But I think Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: and Jim Harbaugh would make some sense with the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets. The volume