1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the third hour of the Clay, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Travis and Bucks Sexton Show. The guys are off right now. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: They are out celebrating the country. I am your host today. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon. I'm also the host of the Tutor 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Dixon podcast, which is part of Clay and Bucks podcast Network. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: We release new episodes every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I'd 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: love to have you watch those. Listen to those. You 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: can get them anywhere you have your podcasts, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: wherever you download your podcast. You can also check us 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: out on social media at Tutor Dixon pretty much anywhere, 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: whether it's x or Instagram or Facebook. Right now, we 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: are in the Wood Radio Studios right here live in 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Grand Rapids, Michigan. I have Kyle Olsen with me. He 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: is from the Midwesterner dot News. You should check it out. 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: He runs writes great stories every day. Right now, I 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: want to get into what's happening with the Big Beautiful Bill, 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: which seems to be kind of a pause at the moment, 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: because we're hearing out of Washington that we've got Thomas 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Massey who seems to like to be a flying the ointment. 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: But you don't necessarily always disagree with him because he's 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: complaining about the debt ceiling, and I can understand he 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: doesn't want to keep spending. But right now he supposedly 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: is out there saying that he has a vote block 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: of ten people, so he's convinced ten Republicans to vote. Know, 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: but we're hearing that there is negotiations in a White 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: House as we speak. Obviously, we know the art of 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: the deal. We know this president is great at closing deals. 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: few hours if they're gonna wear people down and people 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: will come out and vote for this. 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: Kyle, right, and you've got so basically what's happening is 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: you have a very narrow majority in the House of Representatives, 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: and the block that Massey says he has ten, I 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: mean that unless you've got Democrats voting for this, that's 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: that sinks the bill. Yeah, And so that's why I think, 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, sort of bigger picture here, That's why it's 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: so important that the Republicans maintain and expand their majority 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: in the House because President Trump's agenda if they don't 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: keep the House, it's his agenda is for his last 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: two years is gets very complicated and all the. 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: Work that we've done in the last four years to 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: get President Trump back into the White House. You know, 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: the blooney that we went through in twenty twenty, and 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: we just talked about what we had John Solomon on 45 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: the podcast talking about that there was interference attempted interference 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty election from from China. John Solomon 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: was telling us that, and so we know that now 48 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: we know we've fought so hard to get him another 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: four years. The idea of having people step out of 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: the House to run for other offices, and then ultimately 51 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump doesn't actually get those last two years. If 52 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: we have to go through this impeachment, bolooney and all 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: that crap again, that will be a nightmare. But you 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: do have You do have a lot of controversy over 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: this bill. I want to talk about Elon Musk for 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: a minute, because he's come out and he has criticized 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: the bill. He doesn't like it. He doesn't again, he 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: doesn't like the you have a debt He said, what's 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: the point of having a debt ceiling? If you raise 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: the debt ceiling. I think what he's finding out is 61 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: something that many of us who have had these altruistic 62 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: feelings about government get into the machine and we see 63 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: how the sausage is made and you go, oh, this 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: is not as great as you thought it was. You've 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: got all of these people from across the country, four 66 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five representatives from across the country who 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: and in you've got one hundred senators from across the country. 68 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: So you've got all of these people that have to 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: come together and make a decision on this bill. But 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: you have different You've got people from urban places, you've 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: got people from rural places. Like I said, fifty different states. 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to get their piece of the pie into 73 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: this bill. Now we've had people say we should we 74 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: should limit it to one issue per bill. We'd be 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: it'll be a bill. 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Every day, right, right. And so you've got the situation 77 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: where the President apparently as we're speaking, is negotiating and 78 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: is you know, talking through these issues with these holdouts. 79 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: But the majority matters. You know, we just saw the 80 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: other day Don Bacon, a representative from Nebraska, announced he's 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: going to be he's going to be retiring. Why does 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: that matter because his district in twenty twenty four, his 83 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: district was won by Kamala Harris fifty four to forty five. 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty Joe Biden won that district. That's going 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: to be a very competitive district. It's going to be 86 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: very difficult for Republicans to win and keep that seat. 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: Here in Michigan where we're sitting John James, who represents 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: McComb County, which is the home of Reagan Democrats. President 89 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Trump won Macomb County, but John James has decided to 90 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: leave the House and he's running for governor, So that 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: now is another seat that Republicans are going to have 92 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: to spend probably millions and millions of dollars to defend. 93 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: So you go across the map and it's not going 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: to be and then historically, you know, you just look 95 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: at statistics and history, the party in power, which of 96 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: course is the Republicans, lose seats in the midterm. So 97 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: they've got history against them. They've got Republicans who are 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: deciding to retire or they're seeking promotions. It's a very 99 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: difficult situation for Republicans in every single one of these 100 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: matters because I think the Democrats have been very clear 101 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: if they get the majority, they're going to do impeachment 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: all over again. 103 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Of course it will be if they get the majority, 104 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: we will be in a world of hurt. And so 105 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: I think that is why people are frustrated with what 106 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is putting out, because he's saying that he's 107 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: going to primary anybody who votes for this bill. He's 108 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: going to primary that. I mean, obviously he has endless money, 109 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: but is that really worth it? 110 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: Is? 111 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: Would you really go to that extreme? Senator Marshall, I 112 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: think was kind of funny this is cut eleven. They 113 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: were asking him, well, what do you think about what 114 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is saying? And this, I think is the 115 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: answer to your concerns. 116 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: Kyle. 117 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: Here is what he had to say. 118 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: Oh, look, I'll take President Trump's endorsement over Elon's any 119 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: tell you the week back home. Look, we need to 120 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 4: pass this bill because it helps with Biel. President Trump's agenda. 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: His priorities were to secure the board, to bring back 122 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: cross parity and security. 123 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: I think if we do those things. 124 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: If we bring back cross curd and security, we're going 125 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: to get re elected. Elon's continuing his little spat. 126 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: We're ignoring him. 127 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: Let's get this Biel across the finish line. 128 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: They're ignoring him. They want to move on, Move on. 129 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: President Trump has the most impressive team in history. I mean, 130 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: people have said this is a historic comeback. Nobody has 131 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: done what he did, what Susie Wilds did, what James 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Blair did, what Chris Lossad did. These are people who 133 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: are not going to just allow this to get mucked 134 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: up in the midterms, to have Alon Musk go in 135 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: and primary people. They're going to make sure that Donald 136 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: Trump is heavily involved. And like you just heard the 137 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: Senator say, his endorsement means so much because we've seen 138 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: this in Michigan. There is a faction of people who 139 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: would like to kill America first. And I'm talking about 140 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: Republicans who would like to kill America first. But James Blair, 141 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Susie Wiles, Chris los Avida, they are not going to 142 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: let that happen to Donald Trump. They're going to have JD. 143 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Vance involved. They're going to have Donald Trump involved. They 144 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: are going to be helping to make sure that he 145 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: has that majority, that his policies are enacted, that he 146 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: gets those last two years to do what he so 147 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: desperately needs to do to make sure we say this 148 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: country right. 149 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: And so this it's not just about this bill. There's 150 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: a much bigger thing going on where it's the entire 151 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: Trump agenda. And if they're willing to kill the whole 152 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: Trump agenda because of one bill, well, then the last 153 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: two the last two years of the of the Trump 154 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: administration is going to be investigations, subpoena's, court hearings, and 155 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: then ultimately impeachment. 156 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: Well it's interesting. If you are thinking about not voting 157 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: for this bill, and you can hear me right now, 158 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: you should know that Donald Trump is like the most 159 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: popular president in history right now, because we've got this 160 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: cut ten where they talk about CNN is talking about 161 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: how people feel about Donald Trump. So all of you 162 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: out there that are just sitting in your offices waiting 163 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: to go in there and vote, the American people are 164 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: with Trump. So listen to this. Here it is. 165 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 5: The Prime Minister Netanyah who is not listening. 166 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 6: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for 167 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 6: the United States to be clear about where we stand 168 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 6: on the need for this war to end. 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 5: Seems that Prime Minister netanya who is not listening the 170 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: Wall Street drums. 171 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna we're gonna step out of that. That 172 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: wasn't what we were thinking. It was. We were going 173 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: to play a clip from CNN where they said Donald 174 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Trump right now is he has a sixty Oh, we 175 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: have that one. So we're gonna play that right now. 176 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 7: And get this. Donald Trump beats Donald Reagan when it 177 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 7: comes to the strongly approved five months, and of course 178 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 7: Reagan was coming off that high after that assassination attempt. 179 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 7: So the bottom line is Donald Trump is making history 180 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 7: with the Republican base. He is more beloved by this 181 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 7: Republican base than any Republican base loved any GOP president 182 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 7: five months. 183 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 8: And it is history making. 184 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: It is history making. Okay, So if you're sitting there 185 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: on the fence, if you were one of those Republicans 186 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: saying I don't think I want to enact Donald Trump's agenda, 187 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: that the American people are making history with their love 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: for President Trump right now, so get off your duff 189 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: and make the right decision. 190 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: And he was during the campaign. He was very clear. 191 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot of politicians that sort of hide what 192 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: they want to do. He was very clear about deportations, 193 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: securing the border, everything else. He is enacting his agenda, 194 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: and there's people standing in his way, and he's identifying 195 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: those people that are standing in his way. And again, 196 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 2: this is much bigger than just this bill. He's got 197 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: a whole agenda that he wants to do over the 198 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: next three and a half years. 199 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: Yes, so buckle up. When we were there, we were 200 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: actually there at the White House on the first two 201 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: hundred days when we were celebrating one hundred days, and 202 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: I remember one of the women that work there, she 203 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: looked at me. I said, how's it going, And she 204 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: was like, I'm kind of hoping we slow down a 205 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: little bit. He goes so fast, he's got so much 206 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: going on. I'm hoping now that it's been one hundred days, 207 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: we can take a breath. And I just laughed and 208 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: looked at her and I was like, no, you're never 209 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: This man never slows down. You are never taking a breath. 210 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: President Trump keeps winning. This week, he is winning the 211 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: border crossings, as we said, almost nonexistent. The Senate past 212 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill. Now we're waiting for all of 213 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: these Republicans, Like I said, don't make this mistake. Make 214 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: sure you get this passed. You guys want to go 215 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: celebrate America. Go celebrate America after you pass this bill. 216 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: Egg prices are down, gas prices are down. CBS is 217 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: settling over what they did to the president. It's all 218 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: good for President Trump. And don't forget. At the end 219 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: of this hour, we want to hear from you. At 220 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: the very end of the show, please call eight hundred 221 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: two eight two two eight eight two. Stay tuned. We'll 222 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: be back with more after this. 223 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 8: News you can count on and some laughs too. Clay 224 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 8: Travis at Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio 225 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 8: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 226 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clay and Buck Show. I'm Tutor Dixon. 227 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm filling in because the guys are off celebrating the 228 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: fourth of July. I host the Tutor Dixon Podcast right 229 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: on the Clay and Buck podcast Network, and we are 230 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: live from the Wood Radio Studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 231 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: I Kyle Olsen with me. We're going to talk about 232 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: what is happening with this Ditty trial right now. I'm 233 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: laughing because in the break I'm like, so, what's the 234 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: update on the Ditty trial? And then Sarah's next to me, 235 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: and she's like, so, apparently there's people outside of the 236 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: courthouse right now and they're celebrating. I don't know why 237 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: they're celebrating. Apparently Diddy still has a lot of fans. 238 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: They're celebrating by pouring baby oil on their bodies. And 239 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: Kyle's like, Oh, it's way too hot for that, Like, 240 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: what what does that even mean? 241 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: I don't know. 242 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: Just move on, Okay, So well, I guess we're moving on. 243 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to know what he knows. That's that's 244 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: for him to know, but I want to I do 245 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: want to know what Clay knows. Kyle's so mad at 246 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: me right now. I do want to know what Clay knows, 247 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: because I told you earlier. Clay texted us. He's like, oh, 248 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: we were so right about this. We were so right 249 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: about this. So we are going to play his own words. 250 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: Cut thirteen. We've got it ready for you, guys. Here's 251 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: what Clay and Buck had to say about what was 252 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: going to happen with Ditty. 253 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 9: I think Buck that there's not going to be a 254 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 9: conviction here, and you agree with me. I've been following 255 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 9: this case pretty closely. I think the government failed to 256 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 9: beyond a reasonable doubt their case. Not that didd he's 257 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 9: a great guy, or that I would want him dating 258 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 9: my sister or my daughter or something like that, but 259 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 9: I don't think they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that 260 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 9: he is guilty of the very serious charges that they 261 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 9: brought against him. This thing has gone to the jury. 262 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 9: Maybe we're going to be wrong, but I do think 263 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 9: that there would be a lot of shock if he's 264 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 9: not convicted. I'm just telling you guys and gals out 265 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 9: there who may not have paid as much attention to it, 266 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 9: it would not surprise me at all if they failed 267 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 9: to get a conviction. 268 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 10: They went for things that I think reasonable doubt is 269 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 10: going to be too easy for some of the jurors 270 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 10: to lean on. I don't think that the sex trafficking 271 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 10: charge is going to be something they're able to get 272 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 10: him on. 273 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: I think this is so funny because because they obviously 274 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: obviously they were right. But I'm a woman, so I 275 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: think of this as such a dude thing to be 276 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: like on vacation and text us and say you gotta 277 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: play the video or you gotta play the audio of 278 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: us being right. Yes, they are right. They deserve it. 279 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck are that's you were saying, they're so 280 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: smart they knew this, right, that's. 281 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: Why they took over for Rush. 282 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah makes sense, Yes, it makes sense. They knew this 283 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: was going to happen. I still find it kind of 284 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: charming that they're like, you have to you have to 285 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: say that we were right, say that we were right. 286 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: So congratulations, claim Buck, you were right. He didn't get 287 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: the convictions on the major things, so obviously we'll find 288 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: out what he's sentenced with later. I mean, they say 289 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: it could still be up to like ten years, but 290 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that he's out of there. He's 291 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: going to have his own he didy whatever party with 292 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: his baby oil soon. But also other big news, other 293 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: big news in kind of a similar genre of like 294 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: I guess revenge, well maybe maybe to totally different. The 295 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: president is actually going to be vindicated himself. Because I 296 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember we were playing it earlier. 297 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: I want to play it again really quick. We have 298 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: this clip of Kamala Harris. This is the before CBS 299 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: altered and after. Here it is. 300 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 5: Prime Minister net and Yah who is not listening. 301 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 6: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for 302 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 6: the United States to be clear about where we stand 303 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 6: on the need for this war to end. 304 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 5: But it seems that Prime Minister net and Yah, who 305 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 5: is not listening the Wall Street Journal said he that 306 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: your administration has repeatedly been blindsided by net Yahoo, and 307 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 5: in fact, he has rebuffed just about all of your 308 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 5: administrations and treaties. 309 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 6: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted 310 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 6: in a number of movements in that region by Israel 311 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 6: that were very much prompted by or a result of 312 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 6: many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen 313 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 6: in the region. And we're not going to stop doing that. 314 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 6: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for 315 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 6: the United States to be clear about where we stand 316 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 6: on the need for this war to end. 317 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Aren't you so glad you don't have to hear that 318 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: word salad anymore than crazy? I mean, that's how they 319 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: altered it. So we find out now the CBS and 320 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Paramount are going to settle with Donald Trump, and it 321 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: could be north of thirty million dollars. They deserve it, 322 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: all right, don't forget you got to call in at 323 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: the end. We want to hear your traditions. Call in 324 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: eight hundred two two eight eight two. We'll be back 325 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: with Yaku Boyans after this. 326 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 8: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth. 327 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 328 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: The guys are off today. I'm Tudor Dixon and I 329 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: am filling in for today. I'm a host of the 330 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, which is in the Clay and Buck 331 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast Network, and I'm excited to be coming to you 332 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: live from the Wood Radio Studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan, 333 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: and I have a guest with me today. He is 334 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people to talk to. He actually 335 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: is somebody who's out there fighting sex trafficking every day, 336 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: which I appreciate. Having four daughters, he has taught me 337 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: so much about keeping my kids safe. But I felt like, Wow, 338 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: with all this stuff going on with Diddy right now, 339 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: it would be great to have Yaku Boyans here. So 340 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: I want to welcome you to the program. Thank you 341 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: so much for joining me. Yaku. 342 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, Tutor, so kind of you and you're the 343 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: best of the best. It's good to be with you. 344 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being here. You have some things going 345 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: on in Texas too. I want to get to that, 346 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: but first, what is your opinion on what happened with Ditty. 347 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: Tutor? This is an utter failure of the judicial system. 348 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: Today is a very dark day. And if you could 349 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: look at my text feet today from survivors of trafficking 350 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: texting me organizations in the fight, they are they'reated, demotivated. 351 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: They are depleted because we work so hard to rescue 352 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: a single life and then to to have it play 353 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: out in the media, to parade a survivor like Cathie 354 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: Ventura liked that it with Virginia Guffrey, and then to 355 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: have the justice system fail again. This case was not 356 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: built right from the first day, and I reached down 357 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: to prosecutors when they took this case. We offered support 358 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: from from industry experts saying, look, can you build this 359 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: case differently. It's all good that they. 360 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: Because your sister was trafficked in the music industry, you. 361 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, and so yeah, you're right, so within human trafficking, 362 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: music specifically is very very personal to us because Ilanka 363 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 3: was trafficked through the music business through an American record label. 364 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: This is her story. We know this story inside out, 365 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: and so the case was not built right. The prosecutors 366 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: did a very poor job in building this case. The 367 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 3: way they present survivors to a jury. Judges do not 368 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: understand the crime. Jury does not understand force, fraud, coercion 369 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 3: when they drop fifty percent of the text trafficking charges. 370 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: On Friday, I messaged most of the organizations and said, 371 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: this is not going to go well. This is going 372 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: to be horrific, you know, acquitting him from racketeering and 373 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: both human trafficking charges he's not guilty of according to them, right, 374 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: and so yes, transportation prostitution of Missentura, transportation prostitution for 375 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: Jane Doe, a maximum sentence of tenure. He's not going 376 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: to get that. He's probably going to get bail. He's 377 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: probably going to be home for fourth of July, and 378 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: he may he may serve a fraction of it and 379 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: then and then get off of good behavior. This is 380 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: going to be a bit of a Martha Stewart scenario, 381 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: a little bit of time. 382 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: I think he comes right home. 383 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be home for a bit 384 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: and then he's going to get sentenced, and I do 385 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: think he serves time, but he will not serve the 386 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: sentence he's going to get. He's going to be out sadly. 387 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: You're going to see this guy make records and people 388 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 3: are going to buy his concert tickets and and you 389 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: know who's losing your tutor, not just Miss Ventura, every victim. 390 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: If you can see what the survivors are writing to me, 391 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: it is people don't know this. Only one point seven 392 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: percent of victims of human trafficking ever speak out, one 393 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: point seven percent. Now you're taking a one point seven 394 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: percent person who puts her name out there. She's paraded 395 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: out there, and now the world the law is telling 396 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: her you're a liar, you're wrong, none of this happened. 397 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: Her life is destroyed. 398 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't that frustrate you that they built this case wrong. 399 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: Then it's unbelievably frustrating. And we warned them. We warned them. 400 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: It is a particular way you built these cases. If 401 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 3: your key witness is a survivor, there's certain things you 402 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: have to do and don't do, and you cannot hang 403 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: a case this sophisticated. We're talking about two decades of 404 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: freak offs, and you're going to build the case around 405 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: a single person. The pressure on that survivor. It's insurmountable, 406 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: it's not plus. This is what they did with Virginia 407 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: Goffray in Epstein. What did they say? They looked at 408 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: for a time when she lied about something, and they 409 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: came and said she's not a credible witness, and they 410 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: start cutting at her credibility in front of the public 411 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: in an audience, and they dismantle a survivor of trafficking 412 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: by questioning their testimony, by questioning their trauma. Right, there 413 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: was no trauma in filmed therapy witness and testimony here, 414 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: no no human behavioral science with trauma. Nobody explained to 415 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: this this jury how a survivor remembers in phases that 416 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: its subliminals buried, trauma is buried, that this triggering happening. 417 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: When they asked her, what was there ever a time? 418 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: This is so, this is so cynical. Was there ever 419 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: a time when you were consensial with mister Comps? And 420 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: her answer is. 421 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: So, Then that takes away all of her credibility. 422 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: She legitimately loved him. 423 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well but that's what you've told me. So oftentimes 424 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: there is there is someone that is keeping them there, 425 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: that is keeping them from saying anything because they think 426 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: it's love. Because the manipulation is there, and that is 427 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: the danger of this. But that's I think to the 428 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: American people right now, they're going, Okay, well, if Epstein 429 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: can't be caught and did he can't be caught, then 430 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: why you even try? 431 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 3: Exactly now, if the public thinks that tutor, what do 432 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: you think a victim? This is a high profile case. 433 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: We have thirteen cases we're working right now, thirteen in 434 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: our organization. Some of them are twelve years old. The 435 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: twelve year old you don't know her name. Her family's 436 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: not getting financial support, they're not getting media attention. She's 437 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: got some low level prosecutor in the DA's office in 438 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: her home town that just tells us there's no way 439 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: you get text track. We're not even going to try 440 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: a sex trafficking case. We're going to plete this down 441 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: to a marijuana charge, an illegal arms charge, at kidnapping charge. 442 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: They're not even going to court on sex trafficking. It's 443 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: only these hope Yere's the statistics at a federal level 444 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: on sex trafficking. When the charge is sex trafficking, all right, 445 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: cases go to court. Only thirteen percent of those cases 446 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: in the States go to court thirty percent. Any other felony, 447 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: every other felony. We're releasing a white paper on this 448 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: next week that I would love for you to help distribute. 449 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 3: This white paper plays this wide open. Any other felony 450 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 3: at a federal level is prosecuted at ninety two percent. 451 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: Sex crimes, particularly against children and women, men and boys 452 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: thirteen percent. 453 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. We we started this show, 454 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: this program today talking about Mam Donnie in New York 455 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: and one of the things that he came out and 456 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: said is he wants to legalize sex work, which is, 457 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, prostitution, and you would have these men who 458 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: would own women and they would be a part of 459 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: this group that they would sell their bodies. And to me, 460 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: this all sounds like good nightmare when you hear this 461 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: man saying this in the most powerful city in the world. 462 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: What do you think they on? What you know? 463 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: It is an absolute dismantling of the American culture, one 464 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 3: nation under God, what our founding fathers came here for. 465 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: It is the most sadistic undermining of who we are 466 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 3: as Americans. It will eat the nuclear family to its core. 467 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: You will not recognize America now remember he is an 468 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: offspring of some champions, the biggest and by the way, 469 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: the movement is called the full d Krim movement to 470 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: fully decriminalize the cell and purchase of sex, including children. Okay, 471 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 3: so you can own a slave. That movement in this 472 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: country has so much momentum. J. D. Pritzker, the governor 473 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: of Illinois, is the champion of this movement in this country. 474 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: Him and he's brother, Gavin Newsom, is on this movement. Now, 475 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: this madman, absolute madman madman in New York is advocating 476 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: for this in New York and he's getting support. Let 477 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 3: me give an example. If his law was in place, 478 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: did he would have been walking free of all charges 479 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: today because the transportation to prostitute is gone every city 480 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: in the world and there's been five cities in the 481 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: world that have instituted over time, and most of them 482 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: have dropped it. The decriminalization of sexual enterprise, the trafficking 483 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: of children on average went up over one thousand percent. 484 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 3: It's like saying, look at Balder Colorado and bald they said, 485 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: you know what THHC is illegal? Do you know that 486 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: every illicit drug went up over eighty six percent when 487 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: they legalized THHC marijuana. You can't say, well, you can 488 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 3: own a person and sell them, but nobody's going to 489 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: sell children. 490 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 11: This is well. 491 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: And then and also if you can own a person, 492 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean you called it slavery. If you can own 493 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: a person and sell them for one thing, when does 494 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: it end, Where does it stop? 495 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 3: It doesn't. It's slavery for straight up slavery in a 496 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: land that in our constitution, our founding fathers said with 497 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: leaving the grips of a tyrant king right, this is Look, 498 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: every person in New York, if they hear my voice, 499 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: if you stand with that man, you will be single 500 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: handedly responsible for human beings being enslaved. 501 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: You know you are saying this. You are saying this 502 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: to me, and it makes me realize. He was one 503 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: of three people in the New York legislature that voted 504 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: against banning revenge porn. He did not want to ban 505 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: revenge porn. And that to me, I'm like, oh my goodness, 506 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: everything I know from you tells me that that's how 507 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: these guys control these women. So if he wants to 508 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: torture women, if he wants to make sex work legal, 509 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: he wants to then also make it legal to hold 510 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: this over their heads and to torture the people that 511 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: they own. 512 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: Tutor, look at his faith. This is going to be controversial. 513 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to say this right now. I'm not speaking 514 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: for Bucking the Boys. I'm not speaking for you, I'm 515 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: not speaking for the network. I'm speaking out of thirty 516 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 3: one years experience fighting this demon. Okay, fighting human trafficking, 517 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: fighting immorality, sexual immorality. Look at his faith, go look 518 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: at his core. There are certain fights on this planet 519 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: that believe you can sell people, own them, demean them. 520 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 3: You can sell an eight year old child as a 521 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: child bride. You can have sex with a child. We 522 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 3: are playing with demons in this country. We're playing with fire. 523 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: New York will fall in fashion that you cannot fathom. 524 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: And the sad part is when that happens, you don't 525 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: just pick it up in the next midterm and fix it. 526 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: People get broken in levels where you can't fix them. 527 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: The abuse level will go through the roof. Do you 528 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: want to see persecution of juice? Do you know what's 529 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: happening in London at the moment. London has no go zones. 530 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: I work with Scotland Yard, I work with the House 531 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: of Lords in London. There's British citizens Americans, sorry, British 532 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: citizens that marry into a particular fight sect that does 533 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: not frown upon the sexual abuse of women. And the 534 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: police force will not defend British citizens because they're saying 535 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: you're under that law. Now you've played your stuff. We 536 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: have surreal law birthing up in Anna, Texas, Frisco, Texas, 537 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: across this country. There's things happening in this country and 538 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: the result is going to be women and children will 539 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: be abused. 540 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: This is why I wanted to have you on because 541 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: I knew you would speak truth and I appreciate it, 542 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: and I thank you and I want to you know, well, 543 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: I'll have you back on the podcast. And that's why 544 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: I tell people go to the podcast, to the Tutor 545 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: Dixon podcast at Tutor Dixon. Check it out. We've had 546 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: yaku on several times. Yakuboyans, thank you so much for 547 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: being on today. Thank you for sharing these hard truths. 548 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. 549 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: Thank you Tutor. 550 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and make sure you guys call in. We're going 551 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: to go to a break really quick, but make sure 552 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: you call in. We want to hear your traditions. Next, 553 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: it's the end of the show. Eight hundred two two 554 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: two eight eight two call in. We'll be back after this. 555 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 8: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Mike drops that never sounded 556 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 8: so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 557 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 8: wherever you get your podcasts. 558 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Bucks Sexton Show. 559 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon. I'm filling in today. Thank you so 560 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: much for joining me on the show. I've got Kyle 561 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: Olsen with me here and we wanted to take some calls. 562 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: I want to get right into them because we wanted 563 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: to end on something kind of happy and exciting. And 564 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: we've got Randy and New York. He's got a question 565 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: for us. Randy, tell us what you're concerned about. 566 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 11: Yes, it's uh, why is it Independence Datus the only 567 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 11: one that some people referred to by date. It's Happy Thanksgiving, 568 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 11: Merry Christmas, Happy Halloween, Happy Easter, Happy New Year's but 569 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 11: some people say hey, before said July. No, No, it's 570 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 11: Happy Independence Day exactly. 571 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: And that's a date we can never forget because I 572 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: would make the argument July fourth, seventeen seventy six is 573 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: one of the most important dates in the history of 574 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: the world, because look at what has happened since then. 575 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: So you're right, yeah, absolutely absolutely. Thank you Randy from 576 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: New York for calling in, and we've got Michael Oh 577 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: we lost Michael in Ohio. I want to talk to 578 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: about what you just said a little bit because I 579 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: had Selena Zeo on the podcast and she talked about Butler. 580 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: Actually it's going to be airing on Monday of next week. 581 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: She talked about Butler, the shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania, and 582 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: she talked about how there'd been two attempted assassinate assassinations 583 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: of presidents there, once of George Washington, which I had 584 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: never heard about, and then obviously we all watched the 585 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 1: attempted assassination of President Trump and she made that same comment. 586 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: Think about if either of those things had happened, how 587 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: different the world would be. And what you said just 588 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: now is so powerful because if there were no Independence Day, 589 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: this world would have crumbled. Look at what the United 590 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: States has done to provide peace, to provide shelter, to 591 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: provide love to people across the world. 592 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: That's right. And so when you see these polls, there 593 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: was just a poll that came out about American pride 594 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: that showed it's a twenty five year low. And interestingly, 595 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: Democrats have significantly lower pride in America than Republicans do. 596 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: But it's what they forget to what they what they 597 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: forget or what they don't choose to remember is the 598 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: sacrifice that so many generations have gone through. And so 599 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: somebody like Mandannie can come to America and can benefit 600 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: from freedom, from individual rights and all of that, and 601 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: he hasn't had to sacrifice, but there are many millions 602 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: of people in America who. 603 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: Have had to. 604 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: I took my daughter to Washington, d C. This year, 605 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: stood in front of the Korean War Memorial where it 606 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: says freedom is not free, and I asked her if 607 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: she knew what that meant. She didn't. We had a 608 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: good conversation about what it means to be in America, 609 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: what people do for us to make sure that we 610 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: are free in this country. I just want to thank 611 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: you all for being a part of the Clay and 612 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: Buck Show with me. I want to thank the studios 613 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: here Wood Studios in grund Rapids for hosting me while 614 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: I host Clay and Buck. And I'm just asking you 615 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: guys to follow me on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram at tutor 616 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: Dixon and make sure you download the podcast whenever you can, 617 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: or you can check it out on Rumble and YouTube. 618 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for letting me host this show 619 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: today and with Kyle. Kyle, thank you for being here. 620 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Thank you. 621 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: Have a great day.