1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian g I guess I sold with 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: the planetic bag two reks for dollar thirty nine, or 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: roll a duck tape. We could probably get this car out, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: but it's probably not what I would consider a real 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: professional repair. The car doctor, he says, if you buy, 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: when you make sure you got extended warranty. That's from 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: the that's from the tech in the field fixing them. 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls. At eight five 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: five and now running. Hey want to naming the car 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: doctor at your service. Let's um, let's not get formal, 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: let's not get crazy. Let's just go start doing calls 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: because we've got a list and down around the bottom 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: of the hour. This hour, we've got Jim mckelvan stopping 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: by to talk to us about battery care and maintenance, 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: so we want to make sure we get that and 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: courtesee the folks over there at Clarius and Optima Optima battery. 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: So let's go over to Larry in Iowa eleven GM. 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: See what's going on here, Larry? How can I help? Hey? Ron, 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. UM. Okay, so last week, 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: UM according to my then UM my truck is it's 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: a gas motor. UM according to it, it's a it 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: is a flex fuel vehicle. UM. So basically UM just 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: out of curiosity and plus it into flex fuel vehicle. 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: You know, I've heard that, you know that's an all 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, clean the system out, you know, runs cleaner. 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: So I ran the tank. It was I had a 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: below a quarter of a tank, so I filled it, 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: which I shouldn't have filled it, but so I filled 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: it with UM and it ran probably for and I 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: was at my mother's else I you know, miles away 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: and it ran and it still runs fine. But when 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: my check engine light came on and it said that 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: it was running lean, so I checked the alcohol content 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: and it said that it was point five cent. So 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: so I'm kind of and I believe that it's it 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: runs off the algorithm thing. I don't think I have 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: a UM an alcohol sensor. Yeah, I don't. I don't 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: keep tracking my head, which which one's doing which ones don't. 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean you're doing it right. You've 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: got to look at alcohol content, all right. You've got 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: to look at alcohol content and see if it's within 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: the limits of the car. If it's truly five percent, 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: you are Now you're sure this is a flex fuel vehicle. 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: It has a yellow fuel cap. Well the box, the 50 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: box is not original, so no, it does not have 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: it does not have the yellow cap on it. I'm 52 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: going I'm going by the then I look, you know, 53 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: the VIN says it is, so that that's what I'm 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: going by. Well, before we go by the VIN, you're 55 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: going by the VN. As far as what that the 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: engine is rated at flex fuel. So it so this 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: is a six Leader and the eighth fidget the eighth 58 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: digit is a G y Okay, that should be a 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: flex fuel vehicle. I would verify that, but that should 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: be a flex fuel vehicle. All right. This is an eleven. 61 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: This is an eleven Sierra sixth Leader with a with 62 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: a with a with a veng okay. So if that's 63 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: the case, I'd be curious. You still have that tank 64 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: of fuel in there? Correct? Yeah, Well I got I 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: got a half a tank now, yeah, because I've been 66 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: driving it back and forth to work. So but I 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: wonder what happens when you get rid of that tank 68 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: of fuel and you and you clear that code. How 69 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: long have you happened today? How long have you had 70 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: that truck, Larry since? No, no, I bought it like 71 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: about a year year ago, year and a half ago. Okay, 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: and this is the first time you put flex fuel 73 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: in it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, all right. You know there's 74 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: also GM internal document P I P two A talks 75 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: about how to go about doing and you've got lean 76 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: fuel conditions um and it talks about doing a fuel 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: composition reset and a fuel tum reset using a scan 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: tool all right, and they take it through a bunch 79 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: of steps. Clean the throttle body, clean the mass airflow. 80 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: You've got a relearn idol and and and go through 81 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: some steps here. But you know, our question is is 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: it just the composition of the fuel, and is it 83 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: a bad is it a bad batch of fuel? You know? This, 84 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: this this whole ethanol thing, it's right up there with 85 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: electric cars. We're sure I'm making things complicated, uh, you know, 86 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: and and I'm trying to embrace the future, brother, I 87 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: really am. But you know you'll you'll chase this for 88 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: a while and then two months after you solve it, 89 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: somebody will change the blend of fuel and it will 90 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: be inconsistent. Now, one of the things in P I 91 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: P that I recall. We'll send you out and I'll 92 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: just tell you right up front. Go out to top 93 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Tier I believe it's top Tier Gas or top Tier 94 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: dot com. And you know they will list what GM 95 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: considers to be the approved I guess we'll use that 96 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: word the approved um flex fuel sources. Okay, because because 97 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: like like Twinkies and chocolate, Hostess, cupcakes and bagels, I'm 98 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: from New Jersey. Um, not all not all cupcakes, bagels 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: and pizzas the same, all right, every we have our standards. 100 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Uh so you've got to you know, um uh so 101 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: you want to consider that as well. Yeah. Well, yeah, 102 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: the the place where the gas station I filled up at, 103 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: I mean they are a pretty big gas station. Um 104 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: they do claim Yeah, I mean I'm not for sure 105 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: if it's you know, GM spec, but they do claim 106 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: to have, you know, the top tier fuel. So um, 107 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: it'll say it right on the pumps. The pumps will 108 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: have a sticker. Um is that a true? Yeah? Okay, yeah, 109 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: because I've never seen it where it doesn't. The manufacturers, 110 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: the brand will say top tier fuel being the spence 111 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: there something they want to They want to talk about 112 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: it too, right, They want to you know, they want 113 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: to let you know what they're thinking. Um. So I 114 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: think that's you know, that's critical. But uh, you know, 115 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: I've seen this with with ethanol um scan tool resets recalibrations. 116 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: Do you have the right blend of fuel? All right? Uh? 117 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: You know it would it would be interesting, um to 118 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: really see that. So I have I I've watched a 119 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: couple of videos on you know, on doing that reset composition. 120 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: But the videos that I saw, they were actually running 121 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: um like they were running regular fuel, but their alcohol 122 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: content was like showing that. It was like, hi, so 123 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: and and that's what the videos were saying, telling me 124 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: that you don't want to reset it if so let's 125 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: say you know, you have the ten percent defanel in 126 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: there and and it's showing fifty eight percent. Let's say, 127 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: so you don't want to reset it at that point, 128 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: or no, you do want to set it at that point, 129 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: but if you have flex fuel in there, you don't 130 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: want to reset it until does that make sense of that? 131 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: I would follow, I would follow what P I P says, 132 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: did you did you see? You know, let's have one 133 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: standard of reference. We always want that as diagnosticians. Did 134 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: you see your alcohol content percentage on scan tool or 135 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: you did a physical test? Yeah it was on scant 136 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: No I haven't, but yeah I didn't do a physical test. 137 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's do a physical test, all right, because once 138 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: again we're trusting the thing that's broken to tell us 139 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: all the information. And I want to verify if if 140 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: the test says five and the scan tool says five percent, 141 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: you know what? You know what I found out my 142 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: scan tools right uh? You know? Um, and you're not 143 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: chasing your tail. Um, I'm chasing my tail on my 144 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: daughter's escape right now with a lean fuel condition. And 145 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: the original numbers were so off the wall. The first 146 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: thing I did was took up two more scan tools. 147 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Of course I have that, I have that option, but um, 148 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know that's it's that's why people say 149 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: why do you have sixteen? Well, because sometimes the first 150 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: three or wrong. You know, it takes me till I 151 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: get to four. So you know, just things to be 152 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: aware of. Alright, kiddo, if you need more, if you 153 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: can't find those documents, send me an email Ron at 154 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: card Doctor Show dot com and I'll dig him out 155 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: and I'll dig him out and I comptf and email 156 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: them to you. What would that be on Yeah, that'll 157 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: be in All Data. Yeah, a subscription, that'll that'll be 158 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: in All Data. I'm sure you'll find it. There's there's 159 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: a ton of information and All Data. Just go to 160 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: bulletins and start reading about ethanol and e eighty five 161 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: in flex. There's a ton of information there. Uh you know, um, yeah, 162 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: it's it's really amazing what's there. But um, you know, 163 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: and you can you can also call up All Data 164 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: and request you have that option with them to request, Hey, 165 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: I want to see a copy of g M P 166 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: I P A. It's listed in Service information, but I 167 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: can't find a downloadable copy. And chances are they'll go 168 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: into their library and either email or facts it to you. 169 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: All Data. All Data is great. How they do that? Yeah, 170 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: there they've got They've got access to so much information 171 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, it's crazy. All right, sir, all right, thank 172 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: you very much. You're very welcome right. If you need more, 173 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: you know where to find me. You're very welcome. Five 174 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: zero zero the car doctor coming back right after this 175 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: number time right it on the wall so you don't 176 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: forget to call for a car advice. Done right eight 177 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: five five five zero zero zero. Now back to raw. Hey, 178 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: welcome back. You know I'm coming up after the next break. 179 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Jim mckelvane courtesy of Clarios and Optimal Batteries. 180 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: He's the product manager over there. We're gonna be talking 181 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: about batteries, battery technology, a little bit of good what's 182 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: what what what ails your battery? Jim's got the information 183 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: to help solve it for you. And then after that 184 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: when we come back, I want to talk to you 185 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: a little bit about uh, you know, and a lot 186 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: of you want to hear the shop stories, procedure process, 187 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. We're gonna talk a little bit 188 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: about a in oh Fort Toyota avalon I had this 189 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: week and I had to get the front exhaust pipe 190 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: off and as you can believe, the nuts were rusted 191 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: into the studs and it wasn't just PP blaster all 192 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: by itself. There was a little bit of a technique there, 193 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: and I want to share that with you because it's, um, 194 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: it's something I've been using for a while and it works, 195 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: so you want to stick around for that. But right now, 196 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: let's get over to Russ from Pennsylvania. Some comments about 197 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: the transition to electric vehicles. Russ, where are we going here? 198 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate it. Hey, it's 199 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk to you, and a great show 200 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: of listening off and on over the years, and thank you. 201 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: It was driving down the mountain coming home from work 202 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: listen to your opening comments and I had to tell 203 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: you you really made me sad. I'm almost sixty years 204 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: old and I almost burst into tears driving down the mountains. 205 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it got me to thinking, Um, you know, 206 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: of course I had flashbacks from when we were teenagers. 207 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: You know that it was a social event to get 208 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: together and work on each other's cards and at any event. 209 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, you know what it was, Russ. It was 210 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: it was the how did we love each other as kids? Right? 211 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: We helped each other, We helped each other work on 212 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: our cars. There was that human emotion, there was that 213 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: outpouring you know, you you'd go on a day trip 214 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: with your buddies and their girlfriends and your girlfriends, and 215 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: you'd go down to Great Adventure here in New Jersey, 216 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: you'd go to the Jersey Shore, and as much as 217 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: you packed the car with food, you'd packed the car 218 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: with tools because if it broke right, there was that. 219 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: That's what we did. You know, we didn't have the 220 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: money to get our cars fixed. And it was that 221 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: transition of manhood right of learning the responsibility of how 222 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: to fix something on the side of the road that's 223 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: right right, and you were able to And and that's 224 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: gone now, and it's been gone for a while, but 225 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: you can see that it's it's it's on life support. 226 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: The vestige of us fixing our own cars as kids 227 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: is way gone, and the ability of people having choices 228 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: and options on how to fix them is going to 229 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: be the next thing that will go away. And I'm 230 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: not saying it's terrible, but it's just something, you know, 231 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: from a personal perspective, I want to mourn it a 232 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: little bit. I want to be aware of what I'm losing. 233 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: One other quick comment, Yeah, you got just talking about 234 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: transition from horses to motorization, and you know, fossil Field 235 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: of electric and something ironic kitt me. The generation has 236 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: seen the uh transition back in the early nine battled 237 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: with the Spanish flu and here we are now. So 238 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: maybe this is that moment in time Roun. Yeah, you know, 239 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Russ. That's kind of chilling. I 240 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: never I never thought of that. Uh, you know, history 241 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: repeats itself, and yeah, it's yeah, it's it's let's let's 242 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: let's look at the let's look at the positive of this, okay. 243 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: And and maybe it's not a question of will it happens, 244 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: just a matter of how what part of Pennsylvania are 245 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: you in? Russ, Central Pennsylvania outside of Alton, Okay, So 246 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: if there was only electric vehicles, you know, do you 247 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: think that portion of Pennsylvania could afford the grid restructuring? 248 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: And you know, a parking meter with an electric meter 249 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: in it every place? Would it? Would it? Would it 250 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: be about tax base here? I mean it had to 251 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: be a federal influx of money, I'm sure. Right. And 252 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: then and that's my and this is my point. Say, 253 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: how many Altoonas are out there across the country, you know, 254 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a staggering number. You think COVID was hard 255 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: to deal with. You know this will be and yeah, yeah, 256 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: this is a nightmare because it's just coming too fast. 257 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, I've got the article in front of me. Um, 258 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: wait a minute, and I don't. They don't. They don't 259 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: put a lot of things in front of me because 260 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: it confuses me. I'm old now. Um. Elon Musk himself 261 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: on December the first said, uh, that electricity consumption will 262 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: double if the world's car fleets are electrified, and it's 263 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: going to increase the need to expand nuclear, solar, and 264 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: geothermal and wind energy generating sources. That's from the guy 265 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: who's leading the charge. Wow, right, where's all this money 266 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: coming from? Where's the technology coming from? And then the 267 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: other problem that we're up against that nobody's really talking about, 268 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: and they talk about it in this article is it 269 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: says tens of thousands of aging blades are coming down 270 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: from steel towers around the world and have nowhere to 271 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: go but landfills in the U. S Alone. This is 272 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: for the wind generators. Okay, the wind generators. They're they're 273 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: the composite class. Blades on modern windmills are not efficiently recyclable, 274 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: so After they're used up, they end up in landfills. 275 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg reported in February of twenty that's this year, tens 276 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: of thousands of blades are coming down. In the US alone, 277 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: eight thousand will be removed in each of the next 278 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: four years. Where are we going to put all this? 279 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: And you know, is that why is that where we're 280 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: going to? Mores is going to become the garbage dump 281 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: by I'm sorry, Russ, what'd you say? They're like four 282 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: feet wide some of them when when we got him 283 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: on the mountains up here? So you know, where is 284 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: all this technology gonna lead us? And that's the problem. 285 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: How many repair shops you got around Altoon do you think, Russ? Uh? Oh, 286 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: my probably I'm gonna guess fifty. Okay, how many did 287 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: you have ten years ago? Do you ever stop to 288 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: think about that? Oh? Yeah, they've been doing doing you 289 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: right there? And then how many big name car dealers 290 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: are there around Altuna? Oh? Probably three? Okay? And you 291 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: know what are they? What is it? A Toyota, Honda 292 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: and a GM dealer and uh yeah, Chevy and a 293 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: Ford dealership. That is transition it over to super rut slowly, okay, 294 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: So where's the next nearest Ford dealer. I'm gonna I'm 295 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna show you something here, where's the Knicks nearest Ford dealer? 296 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Want to see if this happens, how many miles? Sure, 297 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: I would think probably Miley to wives, Probably within a 298 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: fifty mile radius. Okay, So here in North Jersey, off 299 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: the top of my head, there's five four dealers within 300 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: a twenty mile radius. M So you know, you start 301 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: thinking about the population here. It's it's more cost effective 302 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: for the electrification process to happen there, As you said, 303 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: thousand people in the county right in the city. So 304 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: it's isn't isn't it about? You know, where's the cost 305 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: basis going to come from? Yeah, it's gonna have to 306 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: be a federal movement. So listen, Russ, I want you 307 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: to do some of all those problems over on. I 308 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: think you're right, it's the beginning of the end. It's 309 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: the beginning of the end. So you know what I 310 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: want you to do tonight. I want you to I 311 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: want you to dig out a copy of American graffiti, 312 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: get a big bowl of popcorn, and sit back and 313 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: think back about how much fun we used to have 314 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: and just enjoy the show. All right, Kay, you're very welcome. 315 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate the call. You know, it's chilling 316 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: what's going on to a degree. And I don't mean 317 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: to upset anybody. That's not the purpose of this. It's just, uh, 318 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: I think I hit a nerve there, um hit a 319 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: nerve with me. I know that. You know coming up next, 320 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: Jim mcilvane, you've got some questions about batteries and uh, 321 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, using batteries and maybe we'll talk a little 322 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: bit about electric vehicles. We'll we'll take it wherever the 323 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: conversation go, stick around. I'll run a name of the 324 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: car doctor. We are back right after this welcome back. 325 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: You know, it can be said, and I guess it's 326 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: a bit of a pun. It all starts with the battery, 327 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: and that's really what cars are about today, ever so 328 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: much more because it really does start with the battery, diagnostics, care, 329 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: long term considerations, the vehicle operating properly. And you know, 330 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: it's a timely topic this time of year, although batteries 331 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: have become an all time of year topic. But I 332 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: thought right now would be great. We'd reach out to 333 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: Jim mcilvane. He's he's our resident battery expert courtesy of 334 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: Optimal Batteries, and we're glad to have him back with 335 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: us once again. Jim, welcome back, sir, Hey, thanks for 336 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: having me on UM. You know, we talk about batteries. 337 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: You know, this is a good battery, that's not such 338 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: a good battery. You know what what differentiates one battery 339 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: from another? What makes a good battery? Well, UM, batteries 340 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: come in different shapes and sizes, so that's certainly the 341 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: place to start, because vehicles typically take a very specific 342 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: size of battery. So once you understand what size of 343 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: battery U you need, then then you look at the 344 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: age of the battery, because as batteries get older, they 345 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: kind of act like they're smaller batteries. That means it's 346 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: harder for them to accept current and harder for them 347 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: to deliver current. And then you look at the type 348 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: of battery. And there's a couple of different types of 349 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: batteries that are pretty common in automotive applications today, and 350 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: those are flooded lead acid batteries, or the electrolyte in 351 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: between the plates kind of slashes around and if you 352 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: shake those batteries, you can actually hear like water slashing 353 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: inside the battery. And then absorbed glass map batteries where 354 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the electrolyte is absorbed into fiberglass matting. And those are 355 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: the two big ones. You're starting to see more lithium 356 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: based batteries and automotive applications, but they're not as mainstream 357 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: as flooded let acid or absorbed glass net lead acid batteries. 358 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Yet what what sets? Because you know I've read a 359 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: lot about optima batteries, I'll talk about your brand. What 360 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: makes that optima battery better than the guy next to them? Well, 361 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: all of our batteries use pure virgin lead. It's it's 362 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: the only way we can make our batteries, especially spiral cells, 363 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: because the way we roll those cells up, these long 364 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: strips of lead have um. It's you can't do it 365 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: with recycled bet. It's just too brittle to have a 366 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: sheet basically of lead that extends ten twelve fifteen feet 367 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: as it's going from a winder to a holer um. 368 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: But beyond that, recycled bet doesn't perform as well or 369 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: last as long as as pure virgin lead, which is 370 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: more expensive. And then we also have task straps that 371 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: connect our cells together. So we actually slip our batteries 372 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: upside down during the production process, and we have a 373 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: video on our YouTube channel that you can actually watch. 374 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Uh. They put the cells into the 375 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: case and then they turn the whole battery upside down, 376 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: and then they cast the straps in to connect the 377 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: six cells to each other. And the typical flooded lead 378 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: acid batteries has spot wells that connect those cells together. 379 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of like the difference between a 380 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: fire hose and a garden hose. It really it closed 381 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: and clamps down on the ability for electricity to flow 382 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: freely in the battery. So you're really building a better 383 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: mouse trap. It's inherent in the design and and the 384 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: cast straps and the and the pier letter both more 385 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: expensive propositions, and that certainly shows up in the price. 386 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: But um, it's a battery that will last up to 387 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: three times as long as a flooded battery, and it'll 388 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: be far more resistant, up to fifteen times more resistant 389 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: vibration than a flooded battery. And and you know, I've 390 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: lived all over the country, the roads in some places 391 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: on seventeen New Jersey are less than ideal. And you've 392 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: definitely grown up in North Jersey, brother, because I can 393 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: attest to that. And the roads still aren't great. Um, 394 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: it's it's still like many parts of the country. It's 395 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: still pothole city and rough roads and vibration and shake, 396 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: So you know, does it is it important to charge 397 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: a battery? And every once in a while we listen, 398 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: we've all been sitting this year, right, cars really haven't 399 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: gone anywhere. You and I were talking before our interview 400 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: today that, um, you know, battery sales are up, people's 401 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: batteries are they're sitting. Does it pay to charge these 402 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: batteries if they're low on charge? Doesn't help in their 403 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: maintenance or is it better to replace? It really to 404 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: be prevented, if people should charge their batteries, and if 405 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: they only pay attention to one thing, I say today 406 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: it would be charge your battery. Please charge your battery. 407 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: As as people have dramatically reduced the amount that they 408 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: drive because maybe they're not commuting to work five days 409 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: a week anymore, maybe they're only going in one or 410 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: two days a week or not at all. The vehicles 411 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: don't get used as much, and the charging systems and 412 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: vehicles are designed to maintain batteries that are near a 413 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: full state of charge. And so if vehicles sit for 414 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: extended periods of time and then when they get used, 415 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: it's just a short trip to the grocery store or 416 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: the farm. See uh, that doesn't give those charging systems 417 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: enough time to properly maintain those batteries, and you end 418 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: up with batteries that are at a negative as they 419 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: continue to get discharged, to the point there where one 420 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: day you're gonna go out and try to start your 421 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: car and it's just not gonna work. And you talk 422 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: to anybody works for Triple A. They're having a big 423 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: year because they're busy running out to everybody's houses replacing 424 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: their batteries because they don't own battery chargers and their 425 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: batteries dead and and they wanted to start, and they're 426 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: just like, well, just give me a new battery. So, 427 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, best advice for everybody that's cars we're sitting 428 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: during quarantine, charge the battery. Please charge the battery. And 429 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: even if you don't, you know, for vehicles that get 430 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: used on a regular basis once a month, just plug 431 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: it in overnight just to top the battery. Off because 432 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: most batteries sit in a in a state of not 433 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: state of charges, a partially discharged states. So to do 434 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: that even once a month, just preventatively will maximize the 435 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: performance of the battery and it will extend the life 436 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: of it and you won't have to spend his much 437 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: time and money messing around with it. Typically, Jim, this 438 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: time of year, and we're talking to Jim McLane from 439 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Optimate Batteries. If you're just tuning in UM, you know, 440 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: typically Jim, this time of year, people are putting away 441 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: the hot rods, the toys, the the the seacraft. Okay, 442 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: um is, do you have any advice for you know, 443 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna put our toys away for the winter battery maintenance. 444 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: What's the best thing people can do? Well, just like 445 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: it's great for their cars to use battery charges, it's 446 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: great for their boats and r vs and all their 447 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: other summer toys. And sometimes people have storage that doesn't 448 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: have power to it and they don't have electricity. So 449 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: in those situations, I would say, fully charge the battery 450 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: and understand what a fully charged battery is because a 451 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: lot of people think of twelve volt batteries fully charged 452 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: at twelve point zero volts, when the reality is it's 453 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: got to be at least twelve point six volts. And 454 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: for some batteries like our Yellow Cops, they're fully charged 455 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: like about thirteen to thirteen point t volte. So if 456 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: if they don't have electricity where they store their vehicle, 457 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: fully charge that battery and then completely disconnected from the vehicle, 458 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: so there's no chance that some switch was left on. 459 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna discharge the battery over the next couple of 460 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: months when you're not even paying attention to it. Uh. 461 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: And and then when you go to bring the vehicle 462 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: back out of storage, fully charge it again because batteries 463 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: will self discharge on their own even if they're not 464 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: connected to anything. In that way, you make sure that 465 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 1: your battery is in tip top shape and and as 466 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: best you can, ready to go if you don't have 467 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: a way to keep it maintained all through the winter months. Jim, 468 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm a consumer. I'm standing in a park store aisle 469 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: or a superstore center or something, and I'm trying to 470 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: figure out I want to buy a battery, sell me 471 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: an Optima battery, or tell me tell me why I 472 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: want two things from me I want to know why 473 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: is an Optima battery a better battery? And I want 474 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: to know how do I figure out what battery size 475 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: or capacity I need? What's that all about? Okay, Well, 476 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: if we have a battery that fits your vehicle, and 477 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: unfortunately we don't fit all of them, but we sit 478 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: most of them are bad. Usual last up to three 479 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: times as long. UM. So if if you've got five 480 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: years out of your last battery, that could be fifteen years. Now. 481 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: If you have a least car or a Winner Beater 482 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: that you bought for a thousand bucks, or a car 483 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: you're probably not going to hold onto for much longer 484 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: than the next year or two. I'll be honest. Maybe 485 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to buy one of our batteries because 486 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: they are more expensive. Um But if you're gonna hold 487 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: onto your vehicle, if you have a hot rod that 488 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to see acid damage the under side 489 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: of the hood if some something catastrophic happens with the 490 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: charging system. Our batteries are sealed, so they're not going 491 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: to make a mess with battery acid leaking all over 492 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: the place. Um And so between the lifespan and the 493 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: safety aspect of it alone, our batteries are are worth 494 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: the price that you pay if if you're going to 495 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: hold onto a vehicle for the long term. Right, yeah, 496 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: you get what you pay for, right absolutely in batteries. 497 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: That's that's absolutely the case. In our last minute, sum, 498 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: I have a question for you that maybe it's a 499 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: little off the wall. Do you ever consider making an 500 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: optima battery that looks like an old battery for the 501 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: guys with the hot rods. I'm asking a great question. 502 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm asking this for a friend. We get that question 503 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: quite a bit, and I'll be honest with you. Um, 504 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: we only produced we we still produce a six fold battery, 505 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: or one of the few manufacturers who do. And there's 506 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: a lot of six old vehicles out there. Um, somebody made, 507 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: actually a couple of companies made cases several years ago 508 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: where you could drop that optimust six fold into the 509 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: black case and it looked like an auto light or 510 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: some old brand, and then then close that case. The 511 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: problem was, we became the OE battery for the Volkswagen 512 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: EOS convertible, the hard top convertible, and they use two 513 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: of our six old batteries and they lay the flat 514 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: because they needed the space for the convertible cop so, uh, 515 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: those batteries now have a vent port in them. The top, 516 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: the red top on them is a little bit thicker, 517 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: and they no longer it in most of those cases, 518 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: which is kind of a bummer. But I just I 519 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: was on a message board the other day. I cameramber 520 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: a stove boat stove boat dot com or somewhere else where. 521 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: Somebody else had come up with a new case where 522 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: you can drop an old six old Optima battery into 523 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: the old case and kind of disguise it again. And 524 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: I've seen people paint our batteries and you can do that. 525 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: They just paint them black because they don't want the 526 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: colored batterything. You the right exactly exactly. I'm just thinking 527 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: it would be neat to put you know, the old 528 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: school Delco or Ford Motorcraft or auto light whatever case 529 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: in the car, but have the Optima guts in it, 530 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: and it would just be like a win win would 531 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: be the best of all both worlds. So, um, we'll 532 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: hear that question a lot. So if if somebody's listening 533 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: that has maybe a three D printer and some ambition 534 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: that could be a business opportunity. There you go. So 535 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: you talked to the boss. When you get a chance 536 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: and you let us know what happens. Hey, Jam, where 537 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: can the listeners get more information real quick? Anywhere on 538 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: the internet where they have their favorite social media platforms 539 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: or Optima Batteries dot Com is our website. We've got 540 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: lots of great videos on the Optima Batteries YouTube channel 541 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: as well, and are one of our newest videos. Shows 542 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: are our whole production process. So we'll actually take you 543 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: inside the factory and and Micro will deliver in his 544 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: velvet velvety smooth voice the process for you of how 545 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: optim batteries get put together. Cool Being's Optima Batteries dot 546 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: com and let's not forget Auto Batteries dot Com. Jim, 547 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: I want to wish you and yours a save, healthy, 548 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: happy holiday season and thanks for taking the time to 549 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: be with us today. Thank you. I hope you guys 550 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: are safe as well. You'd be well. I'm running any 551 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor. We are back right after this. 552 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Let's again thanks to Jim mcilvan and the 553 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: folks over there at at the Optima Batteries. They are 554 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: neat if you can, if you've got a use, and 555 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: like Jim said Iff. If it's an application for your 556 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: car and you're planning to keep it, then Optima bat 557 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: reason are the way to go. They are a they 558 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: are a great product, a great idea. Um. We were 559 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: talking before and I promised you this. You know, how 560 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: do I do certain things in the shop? And I 561 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: think you can hear is that the wondergo? Lucy. She's 562 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: in studio with me right now. She's kind of getting restless. 563 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: She knows we're coming to the end, and she's up 564 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: to hear her jingling around. How do you do certain 565 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: things in the shop. We had an No. Four avalon 566 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: this week that had a bead front exhaust pipe, the 567 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: headpipe coming off the two cats and it had to 568 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: come down. Well, it's seventeen years old, it's been up 569 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: there forever and Toyota's got an issue. It wouldn't matter 570 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: whether it was, you know, sixteen years old, Lucy behaviorrself 571 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: here on radio. It wouldn't matter if it was if 572 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: it was sixteen years older, or six years old or 573 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: six months old. It seems that there's issues in the 574 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: way Toyota mounts pipes in the sense that their exhaust 575 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: nuts are are self locking. They tend to swedge in 576 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: against the stud and they don't give you a great 577 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: deal of flex ability for removal. So what ends up 578 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: happening inevitably is if they've got any kind of mileage 579 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: or time on them, is they're rusted and you will 580 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: usually pean over the threads backing the nuts off. Here's 581 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: the trick, all right, heat them, Heat them. You've got 582 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: to be careful obviously you're using heat. You want to 583 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: heat the nut, not until it's glowing orange, but just 584 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: a good dark cherry red. Just get it warm enough 585 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: and then a little bit more and it's it's it's 586 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: it's a game of you've got to try this a 587 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: little bit to see and go through the experience. You 588 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: get them cherry red. Hit them with a water bottle, 589 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: not a spray, but a nice solid stream. Sprits it 590 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: a couple of times down soak it real good until 591 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: it's cold. Heat it again. Do that twice on the 592 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: second pass through. P B blaster works the best. Spray 593 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of peb blaster on it, and then 594 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: right away get your four team millimeter ready, tighten the 595 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: nut and then loosen the nut and you'll feel it's 596 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: spin right off with no resistance. It's a combination of 597 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: the water, the thermal knock and the PB blasters soaking 598 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: in and to provide the lubrication to get that nut off. 599 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: The stud works every time, did it on this one? 600 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: Got all four off, no problem. I'm Ron and any 601 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. We'll be back right after this. 602 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You know, I just want to do a 603 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: quick shout out and say thank you to K b 604 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: j T. A M down there, a M fifte forty, 605 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: Arkansas carrying the Car Doctor Show now Saturday's ten am 606 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: to noon. Just keep in mind we're here live Saturday 607 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: afternoons to the four pm Eastern time. You can give 608 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: us a quality A five five five six zero, even 609 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: if we're not in your market live at that time, 610 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: and we can answer your car questions. We're here for you. 611 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: But again, K b j T, we appreciate you guys 612 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing and being part of the Car 613 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Doctor family. Let's go over to Facebook. Bob Right said, Hey, Ron, 614 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: my son in law who's a New York City firefighter 615 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: has a two thousand seven Trivi two thousand seven. Let 616 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: me talking talking is good on radio has a two 617 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: thousand seven Chevy Trailblazer with a blown front differential. He's 618 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: had a toad to two shops for repair, but each 619 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: shop didn't want to take the repair, saying too complex 620 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: with the axle is going through the oil pan. Any 621 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: recommendation for where to take the car for repair? Who 622 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: would be best equip to handle this? You know what, Bob, 623 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: This is a tough repair and I'll tell you what's 624 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: happened the front differential. This This is a genius engineer. 625 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: Move boy, um this This shows that alcohol was involved 626 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: in the design of this vehicle because the front differential 627 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: mounts and goes through the front oil pan. Now that 628 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: aluminum differential has galvanized itself and corroded itself to that 629 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: aluminum oil pan, and the problem is going to be 630 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: getting the two apart. Chances are it doesn't come apart easily. 631 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: Chances are it doesn't come apart in one piece. The 632 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: entire front axle has to be split off the pan 633 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: if you can soak it. Obviously, pbe Blazer at the 634 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: top of my list of choices of what to Troy 635 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: and a good soaking. I don't even to know if 636 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: that will do it, because I've been down this road 637 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: and it usually comes down if the differential doesn't come apart, 638 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: soaking it with p B. Now it gets air chiseled 639 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: off and the oil pan gets replaced. So it's the 640 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: oil pan and the front differential. That front differential is 641 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: not readily available. You've got to find a rebuilder that's 642 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: got to have it, and some of the national rebuilders 643 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: that come in mind. I believe Jasper still makes that 644 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: front iff. You've got to check with them first to 645 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: see if they still do. Jasper Engines dot Com I 646 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: think it is, or Jasper dot com. But the front 647 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: tiff has to be purchased. The oil pan will the 648 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: likelihood have to be replaced. A big job. I'm not 649 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: saying it's not worth doing. Just know what you're getting 650 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: into prior because chances are that front iff will not 651 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: come apart. Yeah, thumb design actle goes right through the 652 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: oil pan and somebody got paid to put that together. 653 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: You can't believe it. You can't make it up. I'm 654 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: roninating in the car. Doctor're reminding you. I don't make 655 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: it up each and every week. But I'm here to 656 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: remind you once again. Good mechanics aren't expensive. They're priceless, 657 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: let's see you, and she cost s