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Speaker 1: start your engines. The Car Doctor is in the garage

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Speaker 2: You know, if everything had gone its planned, I'll use

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Speaker 2: Tom's line. I'd be now looking out over ten thousand horsepower,

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Speaker 2: eight miles of chrome, and enough polished paint to make

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Speaker 3: You didn't tell me that Murphy was going to show up.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, and here we are in studio by

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Speaker 2: the way, folks. So if you're expecting to find us

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Speaker 2: at the PBA two eighty six car show up here

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Speaker 2: in West Milford, technically we were there about forty five

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Speaker 2: minutes ago, well maybe a little long, maybe about an

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Speaker 2: hour and twenty five minutes ago. And then at the

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Speaker 2: last minute, the thing that talks to the thing that

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Speaker 2: talks to the watching McCall that makes us go out

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Speaker 2: on air, went see you, and Tom said, I think

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Speaker 2: we have to go, and I went, well, they have

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Speaker 2: little porta potties all the way, and he said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we got to go. And you never saw two guys

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Speaker 2: pack up their stuff. And thank God for our support

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Speaker 2: staff today, kudos to them. We piled everything into two

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Speaker 2: cars and ran down Skyline Drive, which is basically you

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Speaker 2: started at the top of the hill and it's a

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Speaker 2: five mile straight drop. It's kind of like dead Man's Hill.

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Speaker 2: All right, and here we are and we're ready to go.

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Speaker 2: We're ready to do a live show and give you

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Speaker 2: guys what you need. It's just we're not at the

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Speaker 2: car show, which is a shame. It was a great show,

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Speaker 2: it really was. It looked great. You know, some of

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Speaker 2: the cars that I got a chance to see. There

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Speaker 3: Wait wit, they were still making those in seventy ninety yeah,

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Speaker 2: And this guy, this thing was really cool. I was

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Speaker 2: signed pillow on the back. It had like a living

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Speaker 2: room couch set up with the chairs that swiveled, and

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Speaker 2: a Volkswagen. It was the neatest thing. I was impressed

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Speaker 2: by that. They had a Type three Volkswagen, which is

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Speaker 2: Volkswagons were big at this show. It was. It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: There was and I forget what it's called, but it

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Speaker 2: It was the equivalent of a Yanko Camaro, a factory

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Speaker 2: gonna do that. Guy didn't get to it. So there

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Speaker 3: There were some really cool things around the back. Just

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Speaker 2: Did you see the peach colored Willies? I saw that

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Speaker 2: the shop. I really do, because I've seen that car locally.

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Speaker 2: There can't be two of them. But I couldn't find

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Speaker 2: And I ran back to the booth and Tom was

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Speaker 2: sitting there and let me tell you something, folks, It's

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Speaker 3: Actually, it was more like the online application that would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, I can't wait to find

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Speaker 2: order repair is about. Waited a great segue. We had

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Speaker 2: million of these things. I mean, how it's so common, right,

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Speaker 2: And we were doing axle bearings. We had to do

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Speaker 2: was actually leaking. When we took it apart, we could

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Speaker 2: which is a toothed collar on the inside of the bearing.

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Speaker 2: So if you were looking of this from the outside,

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Speaker 2: the tube. So you can't use conventional bearing removal tools

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Speaker 2: tilting head. It would slide in, you'd pull it straight

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Speaker 2: straight because the abist tooth collar is in the way. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, I guess I've never done one of these

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Speaker 2: hundreds of axle bearings, but for whatever reason, I hadn't

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Speaker 2: done this particular setup. Wait, look it up. We go

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Speaker 2: through tooling. We need j Dash forty five eight forty

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Speaker 2: seven Kent Moore Special Axle Bearing pullar. Blah blah blah

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Speaker 2: how much is that? Well that's six hundred dollars and

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Speaker 2: that isn't even the painful part. The painful part is

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Speaker 2: the part number is is on International outer Space Intergalactic

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Speaker 2: of December after Christmas. Well that's great, but this is September,

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Speaker 2: and I've got this truck apart on the lift. Thank

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Speaker 2: God for Amazon. You know, in order repair, you really

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Speaker 2: have to swivel, you've got to be flexible, you've got to.

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Speaker 4: Be quick on your feet.

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Speaker 2: I took that JA eighty five number or that factory

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Speaker 2: you know, I know, we all complain about Amazon, the

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Speaker 2: you know, keeping people from you know, shop local and

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Speaker 2: all that. But sometimes because I called on my local

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Speaker 2: to a cheap tool. I'm not going to say it

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Speaker 2: any other way. You know, one of those cheap tools

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Speaker 2: And Amazon said, well, this has got a four and

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Speaker 2: a half star rating. This one's got a five star rating.

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Speaker 2: But they were all made that cheaper tooling quality from overseas.

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Speaker 2: I didn't need it to last, I needed it to work.

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Speaker 2: Once I ordered all three, I ordered the three possibilities.

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Speaker 2: They were all like fifty to fifty one fifty two.

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Speaker 2: I spent one hundred and fifty dollars to get three tools,

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Speaker 2: where i'd have to spend six hundred to get one,

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Speaker 2: knowing that when I found the one that worked, if

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Speaker 2: I didn't damage the others, get them dirty, you know,

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Speaker 2: muck them up, bar them up, and so forth, I

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Speaker 2: to get this truck off my lift, this bread and

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Speaker 2: butter Chevy pickup. And sure enough, with a little bit

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Speaker 2: of provocation and a little bit of heat, it worked.

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Speaker 2: Auto repairs about swiveling auto repairs about at the last minute,

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Speaker 2: out how to get out of it. My youngest one

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Speaker 2: said to me, she said, Dad, you know what I

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Speaker 2: like about you the most. I said, what's that? She said,

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Speaker 2: that then and I appreciate it now. And her point was,

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Speaker 2: never stymied. You're never stumped. She said, you may not

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Speaker 2: the point of solution. That's what we did today. That's

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Speaker 2: what we did Friday in the shop. You know, it

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Speaker 2: was kind of it was kind of comical going back

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Speaker 2: the end of The in Laws where Alan Arkins says

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Speaker 2: but you got to go see it. It's a great movie.

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Speaker 2: It's a funny movie. And Alan Arkin at the end,

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Speaker 2: and are about to be shot by the firing squad

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Speaker 2: and Alan Arkin says, Okay, what's our next move? And

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Speaker 2: Peter Fox's like, no, that's it. That's all I got.

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Speaker 2: Why what do you want to try? And He's like no, No,

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Speaker 2: that was me and Tom today. Tom's like we got

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Speaker 2: There's there's got to be away, Like Tom, you're Tom Ray,

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Speaker 2: There's got to be a way to fix this. And

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Speaker 2: we just flew down Skyline Drive where if you know

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Speaker 2: Skyline Drive in West Milford. I do want to apologize

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Speaker 2: to that cop and Franklin Links because I went past

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Speaker 2: him full throttle, hammered down on the fifty five and

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Speaker 2: he just I think the look in my eyes. He

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Speaker 2: knew I was late getting somewhere, so I promise I'll

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Speaker 2: slow down next time. Anyway, let's pull over, take a pause.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna come back and answer phone calls at eight

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Speaker 2: And to everybody up in Weston Milford at the PBA

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Speaker 2: two eighty six car show, we're sorry. We're gonna try

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Speaker 2: this again next year, we promise, but for now, we'll

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Speaker 2: be back right after this to answer your questions.

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Speaker 4: Don't go away.

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Speaker 2: And of course, as bad as Tom and I in

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Speaker 2: company felt today when we couldn't stay for the PBA

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Speaker 2: two eighty six car show, there's Brad with his BMW

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Speaker 2: calling him from Florida. Because I kind of know this story.

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Speaker 2: I saw the email came across my desk during the week. Brad,

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Speaker 2: tell America what happened to your BMW? Please welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 5: Sir ah right, thanks for having me. So I got

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Speaker 5: tired of the dealership all changes. So I went to

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Speaker 5: a couple group bonds and you named the shops. It

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Speaker 5: doesn't really matter, Valvelene, Jeffy Lub etc. And one of

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Speaker 5: them stripped the drill pan. And when I took it

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Speaker 5: oil changes, he called me up and said, your prior

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Speaker 2: So why can't they hear it? Why can't they healy

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Speaker 2: I wonder why, you know, because when I saw the email,

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Speaker 2: to heally coil the pan? Is there a reason it's

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Speaker 5: Yes? And I don't know the I don't know the

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Speaker 2: If we can get clear acts to it, you know,

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 2: I already know the answer, but I just want to

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Speaker 2: it's difficult.

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Speaker 5: It's a hard lesson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but again, it's a sixteen and it's not worth

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Speaker 5: vacuum oil change. I'm not sure you can do a

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Speaker 2: Well, and you know, if you're doing a vacuum style

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Speaker 7: Just you're not getting all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a sixty three Chevy Brother, you know,

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Speaker 5: I've been to one, and I'm going to try another

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, why isn't this you know, a why

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Speaker 2: day long. I'm looking for somebody competent, not necessarily cheap,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's not that you dislike the dealer

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Speaker 2: You just don't know if you're getting what you really need.

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Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement?

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Speaker 5: That's exactly why I didn't go there, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: It's it's there's no personal interconnection communication going on. It's

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Speaker 4: Am I?

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason? And I'm not picking on dealers. I

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Speaker 2: I go through it around the house. My garage door

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Speaker 2: So you know, I called and left the message, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'd appreciate it, you know. And just you know, just

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Speaker 2: need this spring. You guys have been here before. We

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Speaker 2: looking for in auto repair. We're looking for that. I

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Speaker 2: looking for that tell me what I need, not what

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Speaker 2: and look what happened?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: You already know this, you know it's it's but you

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Speaker 2: What do we have to what do we bend, poke,

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Speaker 2: Will it ever be right?

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Speaker 5: That hasn't crossed? I mean that has crossed my mind

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Speaker 2: So can we helly coil it? Could we lower front suspension?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: And you're not going to hold them responsible at this

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Speaker 2: At this point, it's almost like the car's mechanically totaled

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Speaker 4: Way to do that?

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Speaker 2: The other option is is there enough aluminum in the pan?

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Speaker 2: And I trying to remember what a sixteen looks like.

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Speaker 2: They used to make these transformer plugs. It would be

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Speaker 2: Is that an option?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: I just I just kind of find that hard to

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Speaker 5: So all right, that's been very helpful. I'll keep going

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Speaker 2: You let us know anytime. Brad, good luck to you.

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Speaker 2: That's horrible, right, and you can't just say, well, it's

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Speaker 4: If you're ready, help will.

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Speaker 6: Keep you aroun.

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Speaker 2: He he's a car doctor. Jar that right now? You mean,

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Speaker 2: like right now, let's go to lynnon Delaware. Lynn, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the car doctor.

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Speaker 4: How can I help?

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Speaker 6: Hey? Thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Oh, I have a twenty nineteen convertible Ford Mustang.

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Speaker 6: Okay it it has sixty five thousand miles on it.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: And I've been working on this for four months. I've

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Speaker 6: I got it.

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Speaker 2: So you've got you've got a blown head. You've got

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Speaker 6: A diagnostic testing, they took pictures of it and they

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Speaker 2: Well, the head gascus head, the head gaskets blown and

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Speaker 6: So yeah, So I've been doing research over the last

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Speaker 6: action suits on Eco Boost. That's what the main problem is.

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Speaker 6: It's this particular engine to eco Boost. It's expected Lincoln's

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Speaker 6: Forard trucks, Ford Mustangs. There's class action suits. There's no

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Speaker 6: got a clean's number. They will not reimburse me of

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Speaker 6: to be replaced. But this is ridiculous that so.

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Speaker 2: Let's cut to the chase. I would ask them, why

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Speaker 2: is it that on a Mustang it's not under a

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Speaker 2: is kind of the same problem on an escape. Escapes

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to remember which engine. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And we've had We've had more than a few customers

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Speaker 2: and the problem was it was porosity in the casting

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Speaker 2: it caused the gasket to blow and leaked cooling.

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Speaker 6: So so my question to them was, if I decided

435
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 6: it's cheaper to put a new engine in and buy

436
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 6: another car because of the cars in Pristine. In addition, but.

437
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 2: It's ten grand for an engine, right, same engine in.

438
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 2: It's ten grands for an engine right, right?

439
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 6: Seriously, But I was like, are you putting the same

440
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 6: engine in? Yeah, the same ecopies, And I said, did

441
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 6: you repair that fix this situation? And they're like, you

442
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,479
Speaker 6: might want to google that and find that out. Nobody

443
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 6: ever asked us that.

444
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know what that that that means you're

445
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: dealing with a bunch of dumbbells that don't want to

446
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: know the answers. Yeah, my friend, Yeah, I listen. I

447
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: you know, you know why I'm here after thirty three years, Lynn,

448
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: because I'm the only one that's not afraid to call

449
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: it like I say it. I would have been a

450
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 2: great I would have been a great baseball umpire.

451
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 6: You know, it's is this the beginning of a new

452
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 6: you're my new best friend?

453
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Well it could be, you know, but you know and

454
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: now and now you know what, and now we're going

455
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 2: to play the game, right, you and I are going

456
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: to play the game, because if we were standing in

457
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: the shop, we'd be playing what's what? What next?

458
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: What if?

459
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: And what color?

460
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 4: All?

461
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: Right? What next is? What next? Is what happens if?

462
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 2: And then it leads into what if if we put

463
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 2: the engine in? What if the turbo charger fails? And

464
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: that's another six brand?

465
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, what's my warranty? What's my How many miles

466
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 6: am I going to get out of that?

467
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 2: Well, they'll warrantee the engine, they'll warrantee the engine. They're

468
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 2: not going to warranty any any of the rest of it.

469
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 2: Part of the problem here, Linn, I already know what

470
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: part of the problems, all right is it's a convertible,

471
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: and you love the convertible.

472
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, it's about my fist on right, yep.

473
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: You're a free spirit. You like that top down, wind

474
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: in your face and hair thing. You got that.

475
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 6: Oh and guess what, my my vanity tiger.

476
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 4: Is, right?

477
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: I could, I could see it.

478
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 6: You can tell that. I can.

479
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: I can, I can. I can see it. I can

480
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: see it from here. And I'm in New Jersey, all right,

481
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: I'm three states away.

482
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 6: You know it's away.

483
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: Well, you see, I consider I consider Central Jersey and

484
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 2: South Jersey state, so technically i'm three states all right. Yeah.

485
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: So so the question becomes, before we dump a bunch

486
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: of money into this, do we buy something newer with

487
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: less miles and call this the loss that it is? Right?

488
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: And that's the question only Lynd can answer because only

489
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: n is what her budget is. And that's the truth, right,

490
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: It's this, This was a chronic problem. Listen, full disclosure.

491
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: And for all my Ford dealers out there that advertise

492
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: on all the affiliates to carry this show. I think

493
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: Ford has a really decent product in certain aspects. I

494
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: think they've got their headaches like the rest of the

495
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: car companies, and this particular generation of engine is a headache.

496
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: It just is. Head gasket failures are not uncommon and

497
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: turbochargers are not uncommon. Now, you know, we need to

498
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: have a conversation about you know, quality of oil change,

499
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: frequency of oil change, regular maintenance, fuel system cleaning and

500
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: all that.

501
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 6: I have it all backed up.

502
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: And none of that. None of that would have prevented

503
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: the head gasket failure. Because it seems like if one

504
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: of these things is going to have a stroke, it's

505
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: going to have a stroke, no matter how many times

506
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: it goes to the gym. But once you get past that,

507
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: it's the regular maintenance that keeps it going longer. The

508
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: question for you is this is now a six almost

509
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: seven year old vehicle, and you're not putting an engine

510
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: into this car to drive it another year. You're putting

511
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: an engine into this car to drive it another five years, hopefully,

512
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: And what if saying here's where what if comes in?

513
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: What if the turbo fails, what if the transmission fails?

514
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: And before before we spend this kind of money. All right,

515
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: you got to play what color pick a different color car,

516
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: pick the same color car. Can you go buy this

517
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: car two or three years newer? And what will that cost?

518
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: What is this car worth? What will that new car cost?

519
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: What are you getting? I'd like to think that if

520
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: you bought something two years newer or three years newer,

521
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: you're getting a car with half the mileage and some

522
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: sort of extended warranty for five years. Maybe we could

523
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: put that on there and get some sort of powertrain coverage.

524
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 4: Right, it's.

525
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: Anytime you want to.

526
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 6: Ford, who I was dealing with in the service department,

527
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 6: made me aware that he found a program from Ford

528
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 6: that will cover half of the costs. Okay, so I

529
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 6: like that idea, but I had they then they called

530
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 6: me back and said that they have to tear the

531
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 6: engine apart before they can approach Ford with the situation.

532
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 6: I don't know. As much research as as I've done,

533
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 6: I've never found anything like that. Maybe you have to

534
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 6: be inside the corporation to know that that's available.

535
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're well, the reason is is because Ford is

536
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: likely asking them. Okay, what was the point of failure?

537
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 4: All right?

538
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: They want to see proof. They want to see pictures.

539
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 2: They want to see the porosity of the casting. They

540
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: want to see that textbook picture of how the head

541
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: gas get failed. I think the question is, and I

542
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: like what I'm hearing that the dealer's doing. The dealer's

543
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: trying to their credit, right, I think you got to

544
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: have that conversation at their elbow with them and say, listen,

545
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: if we take the engine apart and I get it,

546
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: that's five hundred dollars I'm risking. And I turn around

547
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: them and I say, no, I don't want to fix this.

548
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: What will this car be worth? And what else do

549
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: you have that I can buy as a used car,

550
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: CPO certified, pre owned, two years old, three years old,

551
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: thirty thousand miles on it? What does that warranty look like,

552
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: what do those numbers look like? And if all that

553
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: makes sense, and they're willing to say, well, you know, Lynn,

554
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: if we take it apart and you don't want to

555
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: fix it, and we buy another car from you, it's

556
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: going to cost you this and this, and you can

557
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: make the numbers work. Then you got somebody that's working

558
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: with you, and you can ask for more than that

559
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: in this day and age. You know what I'm saying.

560
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got fun pickens, right, But I mean that's yeah,

561
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 6: there's lots of way.

562
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: This isn't just. This just isn't just. You know, Yeah,

563
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: it's broke. How do I fix it?

564
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 4: And what do I do?

565
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot of what if? What color? And what's

566
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: next to deal with? So go have some talks, Go

567
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: have some conversations, bring them coffee and donuts, and that'll

568
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: be your Monday Tuesday project. You give me a call back,

569
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: let me know what happens. Good luck to you, kiddo.

570
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm running Andy in the car doctor. We are back

571
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 2: right after this.

572
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 4: Don't go away.

573
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go to mat in Michigan. Matt, your own

574
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: ron any and the car doctor at eight by five

575
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero.

576
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: How can I help Matt?

577
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 5: Oh Man not man?

578
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, who's this?

579
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Hete Pete.

580
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Let's talk to Pete, Pete and Michigan. Do we have

581
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: the state right?

582
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

583
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 7: Well you had the state right.

584
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: One out of two eighth, bad brother. So what's what's

585
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: going on? How can I help?

586
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 7: First off, you know, I'm I'm sixty one. You think

587
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 7: i'd have life figured out?

588
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 6: But Ron, you.

589
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 7: Set me right with my two thousand and three Cadillac

590
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 7: when you said, by my window regulator wasn't the problem.

591
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 7: It was a wiring problem. By god, it was.

592
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: Well, once in a while, I get it right. That's

593
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: why they let me do this, honest, you think, yeah, probably,

594
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: So it's you know, listen, there's there's there's just sometimes

595
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: you just you get you get lucky. You know, uh right,

596
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: some day the Mets are going to return to the

597
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: wheel series. Probably not in my lifetime, but some days

598
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: you never know what could happen. So how can how

599
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: can I help you today?

600
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: Buddy?

601
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 7: Okay, well, I know this is going to be a shock,

602
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 7: but my two thousand and three Cadillac has a oil leak.

603
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Only one, no several, but okay.

604
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 5: We're going to concentrate on just one.

605
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: Well wait, do we really want to fix this, peet?

606
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: You know, if we having an oil leak on an

607
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: older car is a good thing until it hits the

608
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: rear bumper. It's just like built in rustproofing. The car

609
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: will never rode away. So you know, I consider that, I.

610
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 7: Know, but it's you know, cleanup in the car problem.

611
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 7: I love the fact that the.

612
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 6: Awesome, But so you.

613
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: Can't get the drain plugs out, you can't get the

614
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: bolts out for the pan or what.

615
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 7: No, Here's the thing is that I was under well,

616
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 7: the radiators blown out, and I'm gonna replace that. But

617
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 7: the thing is is that I was underneath the car

618
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 7: and I said, you know what, maybe the oil pan

619
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 7: gasket just needs to be retorched back to the eighteen

620
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 7: foot pounds. And so I got my torque fringe under there.

621
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 7: I want to go and park it, and it just

622
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 7: kept going. I'm like, this is not good.

623
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: Oh you mean the bolts are stripped?

624
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

625
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 7: Is there a wait? I can do oversize bolts.

626
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: Well, if you, if you, if you, if you've got

627
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to get it up in the air

628
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: on a lift. You need full height, all right, you

629
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: can't do it's it's kind of hard to do this

630
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: on the ground, all right, And you're gonna have to

631
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: pull the pan down, which I believe you have access

632
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: to do that. And then that is that is an

633
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: aluminum block or a cast iron block.

634
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 7: Everything is illuminous.

635
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: I thought it was alumininum. You're gonna heally coil it,

636
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: but you got to have a clear shot, and you've

637
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: got to have a good steady eye and a good

638
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: steady hand.

639
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 7: So I got to pull everything else to do the

640
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 7: heating clue. And there's not like shelf snapping. I just

641
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 7: put into it.

642
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: Well, they got to remember, if I listen, you can

643
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: you can hack it up any way you want, all right,

644
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: I mean you can try, but chances are, Remember if

645
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: you have to put a bolt through that's so coarse

646
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: to bite into the block, that's bigger than the strip

647
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: threads in the block, that means it's gonna be bigger

648
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: than the hole in the oil pan itself. So you're gonna,

649
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: you know, snocker that up and then you're gonna make

650
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: the problem worse.

651
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 7: So you're just breaking my heart.

652
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: Ron, Listen, brother, I'm here to tell you what you

653
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: need to know, not what you want to hear. All right,

654
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: this is it's you know what, And it's just it's

655
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: just the way it is. These are life lessons. So

656
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: God is tempering the steal. Remember that. Look, it's it's

657
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: it's got to be you. I'm just trying to, you know,

658
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: save it from yourself, because you're the guy driving the

659
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: three Cadillact, which isn't exactly a car from yesterday. So

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00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: the only way I know of is a healthy coil setup,

661
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: and you could maybe try a longer bolt. Where does

662
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: that whole bottom versus the length of the bolt that's

663
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: in there, would a slightly longer bolt be able to

664
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: grab some threads that are up in the block. I

665
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: would take a blowgun and clear it out with clear

666
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: out whatever you know, dirt and air and debris is

667
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: in there, clean it out and just gently snug it up.

668
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: Chances are that's not going to fix your oil leak anywhere,

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00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: because it's an O three cadillact that was I don't know.

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00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: They never rusted, but they always leaked. So good luck

671
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: to you, Pete, and I was always a fun time

672
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: to talk to you. You'd be well eight hundred, I'm

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00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: sorry eight hundred. I do that a lot eight five, five, five,

674
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: six nine nine zero zero. Let's take them back to

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Speaker 2: another time. I'm running ady in the car doctor. I'll

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00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: be back right after this. Some closing thoughts for this hour.

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Speaker 2: Had we been at the car show and managed to

678
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: stay the whole the whole day, one of the things

679
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: I was talking to the people that came up to us,

680
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: and again we're just so kind of bummed out because

681
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: it was such a connection with the crowd, just a

682
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: great crowd up there at the PBA two eighty six

683
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Speaker 2: car show in West Milford at the Wallace Homestead. And

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00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: we're coming back next year, we promised. Tom and I

685
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: are already making plans for the backup to the backup

686
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Speaker 2: to the backup option. Automobiles are a microcosm of history

687
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: and it's really that's really what you're seeing when you

688
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: go to a car show, and this show was no

689
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: exception because they had everything from brand new just off

690
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: the showroom floor corvettes to stuffed pre war There was

691
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: a couple of pre war cars there. And you look

692
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: at the manufacturing processes, you start to think about all

693
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: the little clips and bolts and crews and the way

694
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: vehicles were manufactured almost eighty years ago versus today, and

695
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: how today everything is injection molded and blow molded and

696
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, plastic pressed, and such a microcosm of history

697
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: of manufacturing and the way the country was run and operated,

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00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: and it's just neat to look back. Cars are more

699
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: than just cars. Some cars are like well time machines

700
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: because they take you back, and that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure this hour, as always till the

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Speaker 2: next time. I'm Ronning Ay and the Car Doctor, and

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Speaker 2: I'm reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive. They're priceless. See you, hey,

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Speaker 2: Car Doctor. Car advice to write