1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Utah has become the third state to enshrine school choice 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: into law, joining Arizona and Iowa. Corey DeAngelis of the 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: American Federation for Children says a universal school choice revolution 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: has ignited, adding that Arkansas, Florida, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: and Texas may soon follow. Over the weekend, Utah's Governor 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: Spencer Cox signed into law House Built two fifteen, which 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: establishes the Utah Fits All Scholarship program, providing funding for 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: the program as well as boosted teacher pay. House Built 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: two fifteen provides students with eight thousand dollars in state 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: funds that can be used towards private school tuition and 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: other education related expenses. The program is capped at forty 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: two million dollars and five thousand participants for its first year. 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: The legislation also increased annual teacher salaries in the state 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: by six thousand dollars. Despite this, the legislation faced universal 15 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: opposition from numerous public education groups, including the state Board 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: of Education and the Utah Education Association. Governor Cox said 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: in a release statement, school choice works best when we 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: adequately fund public education and we remove unnecessary regulations that 19 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: burden our public schools and make it difficult for them 20 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: to succeed. We are especially appreciative of our teachers and 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: education leaders who helped push for more accountability measures which 22 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: were not included in the original bill. Deangelus says a 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: universal school choice revolution has ignited. Utah is the second 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: state this year to go all in on empowering families 25 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: with education freedom. Red states are now engaging in friendly 26 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: competition to fund students, not systems. Iowa already passed universal 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: school choice this year. The uh Public Policy Institute did 28 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: a rather extensive survey that I read to you from 29 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: last week about opinions on gambling in the state of Texas, 30 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: particularly casinos. Another of the issues that same poll tackled 31 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: was school choice, and it turns out that for the 32 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: first time, we always knew that We always knew that 33 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: certain demographics were for a school choice, but now we're 34 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: finding that inner city parents, including inner city black parents, 35 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: are now supportive of school choice. That is the death 36 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: knell to the old system. Imagine if the restaurant industry, 37 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: which I like to use because everybody eats at a 38 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: restaurant at some point or another, you may not eat 39 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: it out every night every day, but you do eat out. 40 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Imagine if the restaurant industry was run on the model 41 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: of the public school where nobody gets fired ever, where 42 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,279 Speaker 1: you have a sense that the customer, which is the taxpayer, 43 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: has no role in the school. You know, when I 44 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: was growing up, parents would come to the school and 45 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: sit in the back of the class. If a parent's 46 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: child was misbehaving, they would ask the school for permission. 47 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: And if he was misbehaving Miss Dowden's class, there would 48 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: come Bobby Thompson's dad and he would come and sit 49 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: in the back of the class one day. 50 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: And oh, the shame for Bobby. 51 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: Oh the embarrassed Bobby. 52 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Bobby, boyeye, good, dad's here, dude. 53 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: Oh I know he's gonna sit in on the class. 54 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 55 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 56 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Why because he's an idiot? Oh my. 57 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: All right, dude, I gotta go. Hey, Bobby Thompson's dad's 58 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: in the back of the class. Is in the bag 59 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: of the class. He's gonna sit in the class. 60 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: Why because he got in trouble with Miss down And 61 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: I guess, Oh my god, can you imagine the embarrassment 62 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: go into class, Bobby Thompson. I want to move you 63 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: up to the front today instead of being back there 64 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: behind Wendy and pulling her pigtails all day. Bobby slams 65 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: his book, stands up, walks to the front of the class. 66 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you right here, and she stands over 67 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: the desk right here. 68 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: You remember those. 69 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: Desks that would have the thick metal under and you 70 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: put your books under the bottom, and you have the 71 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: little desktop on the top. They went They used to 72 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: have the wood with the veneer over plywood, but then 73 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: they went to the plastic because people would ride on 74 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: that wood to peel that widow anyway. So there she'd 75 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: tap on it till he came in that desultory fashion, 76 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: even puts books down, and she'd say, okay, well, then 77 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: we have a special guest today, Bobby's dad, mister Thompson. 78 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: Everybody kind of turned and then you turn to look 79 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: at your. 80 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: Hilarious Bobby's in a world of hurt. He has never 81 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: felt that level of shame ever before, and maybe not since. 82 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Being sentenced to prison is probably not as bad as 83 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: that right there. That was a sentence right there on 84 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: the spot. His dad's trying to step in. But when 85 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: your dad's a plant worker and You're like, you know, 86 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: my kids going to straight and narrow or he's going 87 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: to screw up, and I'm not gonna let him screw up. 88 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: If he screws up, it's going to be despite every 89 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: thing I have to do, I have no shame. All 90 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: I want is the best for my kid. And the 91 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: class is awkward. Let's be honest, it's not a typical class. 92 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Miss Dowding is over she's overdoing it. You know, she's 93 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: overly nice, enunciating when she asks questions, she's solicitous in 94 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: a way that she wouldn't normally be. She's very attentive. 95 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: And then the class is over and Bobby shoots out 96 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: there and his dad feels like, Okay, I got my 97 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: point across. What would happen if parents came back into 98 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: the classroom at public schools sat in the back. The 99 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: sad thing is, I wonder how many kids parents would 100 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: be willing, even if they could afford to, because they 101 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: have jobs during the day. How many parents would care 102 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: enough to go and see exactly what's going on. Oversight, accountability, responsibility, consequences. 103 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: That's how you get results in everything I've ever done, 104 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: whether it's your weight loss, whether it's training for a marathon, 105 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: there's training for a sporting event, training for an exam, 106 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: building a company. If you lack those things, you will fail. 107 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: And our public schools lack those things. So give parents choices, 108 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: so good schools. 109 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: Will be rewarded. 110 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: They're jobs. 111 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 5: Don't use that tone to me. 112 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: Not a joke. 113 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: That's sarcastic, contemptuous tone. That means you know everything because 114 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: you're a man, and I know nothing because I'm a woman. 115 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: That is not a joke. That is a natural fact. 116 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: The Michael Verry Show. A year or two ago, I 117 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: was watching No Country for Old Men, and Tommy Lee 118 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Jones's character, if you recall, is the sheriff who never 119 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: really unholsters his gun. He never has to draw, and 120 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: the Mexican cartels have brought a level of violence to 121 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: the streets that he can't even understand. The firepower far 122 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: exceeds anything he's got, and he just can't understand how 123 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: the world has gone to hell. It just can't understand it. 124 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: So he goes to. 125 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: His mentor, and he's talking to his mentor, and his 126 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: mentor's trying to explain how crazy the world has become, 127 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: and he refers to Signs and Wonders. And when I 128 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: heard that, I thought, you know, that's how I feel 129 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: about some of the crazy news stories of how on 130 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: earth can this actually happen? How do you reach such 131 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: a point of depravity? I really have to wonder. Well. 132 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: Our latest installment of Signs and Wonders comes to you 133 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: from Chicago, Illinois. 134 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 6: It's all the damn money, income money, and the drugs. 135 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: It's just help me everything. 136 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 6: What's it mean? 137 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: What's it leading to? 138 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 139 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 6: If you'd have told me twenty years ago, i'd see 140 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 6: children walk in the streets of our Texas towns with 141 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 6: the green hair bones in their noses, and it fled out, 142 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 6: wouldn't have bleak Signs and Wonders. 143 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: But I think once you quit here in, sir and ma'am, 144 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: rest of them to follow. Oh, it's the tide. 145 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 6: It's the dismal pad. 146 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: It is not the one that the one thing signs 147 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: and walkers, Sir, mam, resters. 148 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 6: Signs and wonders. It's the digital pown signs and wonders, 149 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 6: Signs and wonders. 150 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: So credit for this story comes from Fox thirty two 151 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and. 152 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: It's ugly. 153 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 7: We began with a tragic story in the Southwest suburbs 154 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 7: after teens take a stolen Kia for a deadly joy ride. 155 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 7: Robin's Police say three thirteen year old boys were inside 156 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 7: a stolen Kia with the driver's side window busted out, 157 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 7: driving on Kedzie Avenue at about two thirty this afternoon. 158 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 7: Police started to follow the Kia when it collided with 159 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 7: another car, killing a seventy one year old man who 160 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 7: was driving. Neighbors tell us the man lived in a 161 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 7: nearby apartment complex. 162 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: It's terrible, terrible. 163 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: I don't even think they'd taken driver's head, So how 164 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: are you stealing a car? He's very unfortunate, said said. 165 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 7: The teens were all arrested at the scene. 166 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: The amazing thing is that that woman is most bothered 167 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: that they haven't taken drivers in. That's the least of 168 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: their worries. Before you say, well, they're just children doing 169 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,479 Speaker 1: childish things, let me remind you of Latarian. 170 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: Milton. 171 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: Latarian was seven years old when he stole his grandma's car. 172 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: When asked why he did it, he said that he 173 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do hood rat stuff with his friends. He 174 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: wanted to do hood rat stuff with his friends. That 175 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: went viral in two thousand and nine, but you've already 176 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: forgotten it. He was seven years old. You have a 177 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: seven year old boy stealing a car and saying funny 178 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: stuff on the news. Let's go back to that original report. 179 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: This is a seven year old kid, a first grader. 180 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Credit WPF News in West Palm. 181 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 8: Beach, Latarian Milton is not your typical seven year old. 182 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 8: If you his age, have ever driven an suv up 183 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 8: and down several busy streets. It all started at his 184 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 8: mother's townhouse. Latarian says he took the car keys and 185 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 8: hopped into his grandmother's dodge duringo. 186 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 9: When I came through the back door, I looked on 187 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 9: the counter, my keys were gone. 188 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: I took my grandma Cather because they got mad at 189 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: my mom. And then I saw him have my friend 190 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: come in and he smoked with cigarettes. 191 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: He started the vehicle that put it into gear. I 192 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: yanked the I yanked it. 193 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 9: I yanked the. 194 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 8: Thing, and off they went. Two seven year olds alone 195 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 8: on the road. Latarian drove several miles through Lake Park 196 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 8: and Palm Beach Gardens. 197 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 9: We got the one called that he told you about 198 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 9: of a driver in the vehicle who looked too short 199 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 9: to be able to see it the stereo. 200 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: Along the way, he ran over two mailboxes, hit two 201 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: parked cars in a Costco parking lot, and struck two 202 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: moving cars near Walmart. I want to do it because it's 203 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: fun funny. Do bad things drive into a car? So 204 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: did you know that you could perhaps kill somebody? 205 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 6: Yes? 206 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: But I wanted to do hoo orsh stuff with my friend. 207 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 8: It all ended on Investment Lane and Consumer Drive. That's 208 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 8: where Latarian hit the curb inside, swiped the sign. The 209 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 8: SUV took most of the beating, snapping off one of 210 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 8: his axles and wheels. 211 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: A grandmother's rage. 212 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 9: I want to whip his behind. That's what I want 213 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 9: to do right now. If I thought they wouldn't take 214 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 9: me to jail, I'd whip his behind right now. 215 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: You don't think he should be punished for all of this. 216 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: There's a little bit, no video games for a whole weekend, 217 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: and one unusual story for police. 218 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 5: Are you sorry? 219 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: You understand that now you're Grandma's gonna have to pay. 220 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 5: To have those cars sticks because you hit those cars. 221 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 9: Can my mom help up? 222 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, Can you mom help her? 223 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: Well? 224 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: You moved on. 225 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: As we all did, but Latarian didn't. Two weeks after that, 226 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: he attacked his grandmother because she wouldn't buy him chicken wings. 227 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: Nine years later, he found himself in trouble again. Want 228 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: to guess what he did? This time he carjacked a 229 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: car with his friends once again. WPBF twenty five news. 230 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 8: Latarian Milton spent about ten minutes in court this morning. 231 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 8: He learned that he will not be able to go 232 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 8: home anytime soon. He will have to wait to hear 233 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 8: from the judge the next court day. We last spoke 234 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 8: with Latarian Milton in twenty fifteen. He had just completed 235 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 8: middle school and was looking forward to the next step. 236 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: And I did the. 237 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: School in high school because he had found the football 238 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 4: team had some good success. 239 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 8: Here this is Milton entering Westbalm Beach courtroom Monday to 240 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 8: face charge of stemming from an arm robbery and carjacket 241 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 8: Beach County Chief Stepant. He say a lift driver picked 242 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 8: up four young males and a female early Sunday morning 243 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 8: and drove them to a windor away in West Palm Beach. 244 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 8: That's where the female exited the vehicle. Investigators say the 245 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 8: suspects told the driver to take them to another location. 246 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 8: When the driver refused, authorities say one of the suspects 247 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 8: pulled out a handgun and hit the driver in the 248 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 8: back of the head. The driver says he got out 249 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 8: of the car and was robbed of his wallat and jacket. 250 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 8: He later told deputies that Milton, who was in the 251 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 8: front passenger seat, got out and hopped into the driver's 252 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 8: seat and sped away with the other suspects. According to investigators, 253 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 8: the driver gave detectives a phone number which led to 254 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 8: the identification of Milton. Deputy's arrested Milton Sunday afternoon. We 255 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 8: first met Milton in two thousand and seven, when he 256 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 8: was seven years old. He had just stolen his grandmother's 257 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 8: SUV and went on a joy ride through Lake Park 258 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 8: in Palm Beach Gardens. 259 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: I want to do it cause it's fun, funny do 260 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: bad things. Drives into a car, So did you know 261 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: that you could perhaps kill somebody? Yes, boy, I wanted 262 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: to do hood stuff with my friend. 263 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 9: If I thought they wouldn't take me to jail, I'd 264 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 9: whip thisiss behind right now. 265 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 8: Back in court, the judge ordered Milton to remain at 266 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 8: a juvenile facility until his next court. 267 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: Day, Miltarian would be sentenced to fifteen years in prison 268 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: for that crime. The streets have replaced fathers in the home. 269 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: You know, I've played this clip before, but maybe it's 270 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: never been more appropriate than now. It was Denzel Washington 271 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: when he was asked about the importance of the father 272 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: in the home. 273 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: You know, incarceration rates in America has been a problem, 274 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: especially as opposed to minorities, and Roman delvez into this, 275 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: the issues around the legal system. Do you think we've 276 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: made any headway? 277 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: And I think it's more important to make headway in 278 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: our own house. By the time the system comes into play, 279 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: the damage is done. They're not locking up seven year olds. Yeah. 280 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: You know, I was in Chicago a couple of three 281 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: four weeks ago, and we saw these little kids on 282 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: bikes with masks on the side of the head, like 283 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: five or six of them. And the drivers said, yeah, 284 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: they little yummies. I said, who said little yummies? Look 285 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: up Google little yam Little yummy was a eleven year 286 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: old murderer. Wow. And you look at his picture, you'll 287 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: see the headshot him and he's like this And he 288 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: got murdered at eleven by a fourteen year old. Wow, 289 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: who's doing life now? And a sixteen year old? 290 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: That makes no sense. 291 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: You blame the system. Where was his father? It starts 292 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: in the house, It starts in the home. And yeah, well, 293 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: well when my father got locked up? Or where was 294 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: his father? 295 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 296 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: You know, like I did, talk about my three closest friends, 297 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: and they did you know, fifteen to twenty five? One 298 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: did twenty eight this and that I was the only 299 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: one of the three to have a father in my life, 300 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: even though my parents were together. But I still had 301 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: a father who was a gentle man and a good example. 302 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: And they didn't We can blame the system if we won, 303 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: but they didn't lock any of us up at seven. Yeah, 304 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: we were all doing enough to get locked up at thirteen. 305 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: My parents sent me in another direction. They didn't have 306 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: anybody to help them, kept doing what they was doing, 307 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: and the system got them. So I don't know, the 308 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 3: system is rigged, But why all the more reason not 309 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: to help? 310 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 5: Can you take care of your down? 311 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: Think about it? 312 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: Michael? 313 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: Why? Ever, wonder what exactly is going on with Ukraine? 314 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 5: Ever? 315 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: Wonder how it is that this country has so much 316 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: involvement with America's politically connected families, including but not limited 317 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: to the Bidens, Or why it just happens to be 318 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: that it was a Ukrainian oil company, Barisma, where Hunter 319 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Biden was getting paid all this money and Joe Biden 320 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: goes over and says, you got to fire the ag 321 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: in order to get this aid from America. Ever, wonder 322 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: why it is we choose to spend billions in Ukraine 323 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: when we don't in many other countries. If you're telling 324 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: me it's to stop Russian aggression, hmm. If you're telling 325 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: me it's because a weaker nation has been attacked by 326 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: a stronger one. I can point to ten others that 327 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: we don't in, say Africa, for a number of different reasons. 328 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: It almost seems to me that the presidents of those 329 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: nations need to do better at giving kickbacks to Hunter Biden, 330 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: or they need to find better incentives for the people 331 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: in this country that make those deals happen. Bradley Devlin 332 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: is a staff reporter from the American for The American Conservative, 333 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: formerly an an analysis reporter for The Daily Caller. He's 334 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: been published in a Daily Wire, Daily Signal talking about 335 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: how one of the biggest investment firms Blackrock Have you 336 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: heard that name before? Are striking deals to help rebuild Ukraine. Bradley, 337 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: let me ask you how this story first came across 338 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: your radar, how you got interested in it, and then 339 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: how do you begin to navigate a world where there's 340 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: not a lot of public information available to tell this story? 341 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 5: Well, first off, thanks for having me. I really appreciate 342 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 5: coming on and talking about this issue because it's so important, 343 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 5: especially when we've looked at the last thirty years of 344 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 5: American foreign policy, really, you know, going in destabilizing nations 345 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 5: and promising to rebuild them in our own image. And 346 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 5: this is exactly what's going on with Ukraine. You know, 347 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 5: it's funny we turned off the spigot for the military 348 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 5: industrial complex in Afghanistan by Biden actually doing a good thing, right, 349 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: holding to the promise that President Trump made that we 350 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 5: would leave Afghanistan, even though he delayed the timeline and 351 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 5: botched the withdrawal. Nevertheless, I think it's better that our 352 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 5: troops are home. Well, as soon as we turn off 353 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 5: that pigot, another one turns on, and that's obviously Russia's 354 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 5: invasion of Ukraine. And this interested me because everyone involved, 355 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: just like as you said in the intro, right Biden 356 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 5: promising to fire that ag, boasting about how he got 357 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: the ag fired when there was a clear conflict of 358 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 5: interest there. The same thing's happening now where Black Rock 359 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 5: and the Ukrainian government are actually boasting about out bringing 360 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 5: in some of the worst people in the world to 361 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 5: rebuild their country and make money hand over fist. And 362 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 5: so it was press releases, it was statements from the 363 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 5: Ukrainian government dating back to last September when Larry Fink, 364 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: the CEO of Blackrock, and Zelensky first met by video teleconference. 365 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 5: And yeah, it's really difficult. It's a lot of opaque information. 366 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 5: You don't actually get the numbers because those are oftentimes 367 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 5: private or will be released in due time, obviously before 368 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 5: it's you know, after it's too late to stop all 369 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 5: the all the madness. So yeah, I'm still working hard 370 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 5: on trying to track down exactly how Blackrock has been 371 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: involved in our reconstruction of various nations that we've decided 372 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 5: to help or decided to invade and then rebuild in 373 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 5: the name of liberal democracy. But one thing is clear. 374 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 5: If you just go on CNN Money right now, and 375 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: I'd encourage all you listeners to do this. If you 376 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 5: just go on CNN Money right now and you check 377 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 5: out Black Rocks positions in every single major defense contractor 378 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 5: whether it's North of Grumman or General Dynamics or Boeing 379 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: or Lockheed Martin. They have about a five percent stake 380 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 5: in every single one of these companies. So they have 381 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: a five percent stake, meaning that if the shares increase 382 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 5: for all of these defense contractors because the United States 383 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 5: is going to be buying a whole bunch of weapons 384 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: and sending them to Ukraine, well then that helps their 385 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 5: bottom line. And then on top of that, they've partnered 386 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: with the Ukrainian government to rebuild their nation after it's 387 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 5: been thoroughly destroyed by war, And everyone says, well, isn't 388 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 5: that an altruistic thing? Well, the point being is that 389 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 5: if we hadn't had such a dunderheaded foreign policy for 390 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: the last fifty years regarding Russia, and we hadn't made 391 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: crazy ideological commitments to support Ukraine as long as it 392 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 5: takes well, then their hospitals, their roads, their bridges wouldn't 393 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 5: have to be rebuilt. 394 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: Right. But it's almost as if it's not about the 395 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: necessary infrastructure. It's about who's going to make the money 396 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: on it. And Blackrock has a nifty little niche of 397 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: investing in things as sort of a parallel to the government. 398 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 1: It's almost as if they have an access that is 399 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: not healthy. I didn't say legal, that is not healthy. 400 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, I would say the same of 401 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs over the years, and the revolving door of 402 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: the leadership of Goldman Sachs and our Treasury Department should 403 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: be caused for great concern. And that's how our bailouts 404 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: and our quantitative easing is determined. But let me understand, 405 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: and I don't want to put words into your mouth, 406 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: and you may not be ready to state definitively, but 407 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: what might potentially be a problem that you're looking to 408 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: expose with blackrocks involvement in Ukraine. 409 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 5: I think one of the things that I'm curious about 410 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 5: is how much is the Ukrainian government paying Blackrock for 411 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 5: its services to devise this plan, to devise this roadmap 412 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 5: of how the Ukrainian government should go about courting investment 413 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: from governments, from private firms, from individuals, et cetera. In 414 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 5: It's rebuilt right because right now the Ukrainian government isn't 415 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 5: collecting taxes right They're in the middle of a war. 416 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 5: They've receipts are incredibly low. Their economy has been devastated. 417 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 5: Right now or through the end of twenty twenty two, 418 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 5: the United States government has given the Ukrainian government thirteen 419 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: billion dollars in direct budgetary aid. So that means that 420 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 5: their government programs can keep ongoing to the best of 421 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 5: their ability in this period of time. And that means 422 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 5: that if Blackrock is getting paid by the Ukrainian government, 423 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 5: and actually Blackrock is getting paid by US taxpayer dollars 424 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 5: to go in and devise a scheme or a strategy 425 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 5: where any of their future investments or investments by other 426 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: large firms like them J C. Morgan for one, you 427 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 5: mentioned Goldman Sachs are ensured to be successful. So all 428 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 5: of these countries, all these companies that have completely destroyed 429 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 5: in part the American middle class, are now being funded 430 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 5: by regular American tax dollars to go in and make 431 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 5: money handover fist in the country five thousand miles away. 432 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: Where is the money in Ukraine going because it's not 433 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: to the war effort. And how are companies like Blackrock 434 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: benefiting from it. It's an opportunity for them. We'll continue 435 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: with Bradley Devon Devlin coming up for Michael Berry shows. 436 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: Bradley Devlin is our guest. We saw an interview he 437 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: did with Tucker Carlson about who's making money out of 438 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: the money we're spending and sending to Ukraine, Blackrock being 439 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: one of those. Bradley's our guests. The taxpayers pay for 440 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: the war and these guys swoop in and win the 441 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: peace because the peace is very profitable. 442 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: It's just fascinating. 443 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. And again I want to stress something 444 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 5: that you said a little while back that I don't know. 445 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that there's anything illegal going on per se, right, 446 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: but it is a question of incentive structures, and it 447 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 5: is a question of the system in which we go 448 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 5: about assisting other countries. 449 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: Right. 450 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 5: The incentive structures if we're looking at a massive multinational 451 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: financial firm like Blackrock that's invested in the defense industry, 452 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: is keep the war going on and destroy as much 453 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 5: of Ukraine as possible so that there's more to rebuild, 454 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 5: there's more to invest in, there's more to get returns on. 455 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 5: And you heard Zelensky say this in a d conference 456 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: meeting with the Chamber of Commerce in Bocratne. Right, And 457 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 5: let's just say, let's just say this right. The Chamber 458 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: of Commerce one of the biggest proponents of open borders 459 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 5: and free trade policies that have destroyed the American heartland 460 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 5: in recent American history. So everyone seems to be wanting 461 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 5: to put their finger in the pie or cut themselves 462 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: a hefty slice. While the American taxpayer is being left 463 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: with the bill. 464 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: The American taxpayer is being left with the bill. The 465 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: American soldier is at risk of being a boot on 466 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: the ground in a potentially escalating conflict. I think there 467 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: is a lot at stake that we are poking the 468 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: bear that may not necessarily all be in the best 469 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: interest of the United States or in the best interest 470 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: of the region as our involvement is being portrayed. There 471 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: are other interests that somehow find a way to attach 472 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: them to a profit margin. Every time we're at war, 473 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: every time there is a bailout, every time there is 474 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: any other sort of massive governmental expenditure. And it makes 475 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: you start wondering, doesn't it, Bradley, If in fact the 476 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: money is being spent, and then they come in and say, 477 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: how do we get the slough versus them driving the 478 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: money being spent, because they're going to get a percentage 479 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: of it. 480 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. And one thing I'd say on top of that 481 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: is thank goodness for the twenty who stood up against 482 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 5: Kevin McCarthy during the Speaker's race, because that means that 483 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: now we're as Republicans in the caucus, across the caucus, 484 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 5: not just those twenty individual members, but the entirety of 485 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: the Republican members in Congress right now that have controlled 486 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: the House are empowered to go forward with investigations and 487 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 5: probes and use the subpoena powers and use the powers 488 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 5: of Condress to get to the bottom of what seems 489 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: to be on the surface level bizarre ways in which 490 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 5: the United States government has decided to go about its business. 491 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 5: I'm glad that they're empowered to do so. And I 492 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 5: think we need inspector generals, and we need investigations happening 493 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 5: right now, not afterwards when all the dust settles, or 494 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 5: you know, ten years in like we we have with Afghanistan. No, 495 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 5: we need to be doing this right now. We can't 496 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 5: have funds mysteriously go missing in the fog of war, 497 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 5: or you know, well, why didn't this funding strategy not 498 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 5: work out? There's simply too much a stake, especially as 499 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 5: you said, when we're dealing with not just members of 500 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 5: the Taliban, who are you know, relatively poorly armed in Afghanistan, 501 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: but an actual nuclear power that that changes the dynamics 502 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: in a serious, serious way, and our ideological commitments to 503 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 5: the Ukrainians, to the opposition of Russia makes all that 504 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 5: a lot more difficult. You know. I see, even though 505 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 5: I was young when the Iraq and Afghan wars started, 506 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 5: I see a lot of the same type of messaging 507 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 5: on the pro you know, war with Russia's side to 508 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 5: those those earlier conflicts. And it seems like we haven't 509 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 5: learned our lesson and Republicans in Congress need to make 510 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 5: sure that there is an appetite for holding you know, 511 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 5: our military brass, our State Department officials are d D officials, 512 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 5: the Biden administration, and members of Congress who are serious 513 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: warhawks accountable for their warmongering. 514 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Well, and all of this, as we talked about earlier 515 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: in the show, in the context of a debt ceiling 516 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: increased discussion, which is a FATA complete. The best Republicans 517 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: are offering is, well, maybe we might get a little 518 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: bit for the border as part of it. But they 519 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: no longer even pretend, as Bayner did, that we might 520 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: stop the debt ceiling increase. We're always going to kick 521 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: the can down the road. These are the expenditures of 522 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: a far flung empire that are unsustainable. A forever war 523 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: in Iraq, a forever war in Afghanistan, the withdrawal from which, 524 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: as you note, was botched. These are expenditures and a 525 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: drain on our balance sheet that we simply cannot sustain 526 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: over the long haul. And it does make you wonder, 527 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: as Bradley notes, why are we spending this money and 528 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: who exactly stands to gain and work noting, Bradley, not 529 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: sounds like the source of your discussion or the thrust 530 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: of it, but it bears noting how much corruption has 531 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: already been exposed of the money we're spending. There is 532 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: this idea that we have to we have to assist 533 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians because these are the Polls, or the Czechs, 534 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: or the Norwegians, or the French being attacked by the 535 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Germans in World War Two, when in fact, most of 536 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: this money, almost all of this money, it's never seeing 537 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: the front lines of a war that's a front for 538 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: guys to get paid in transfers of wealth from the 539 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: United States while their soldiers are underfunded. So it's a 540 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a ridiculous rules. 541 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: That were going through. 542 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: This money's not making it to the war anyway. 543 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 5: Right, And you talked about corruption. I mean I remember 544 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 5: writing back when Russia had just started placing troops on 545 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 5: the Ukrainian border, and I just pointed out the fact 546 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 5: that let's look at the last two presidents of Ukraine 547 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 5: before Vladimir Zelenski, both have either been charged or convicted 548 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 5: of high treason. Back in two thousand and nine, there 549 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: was a gas deal being negotiated with the Ukrainian prime minister. Well, 550 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 5: the prime minister was brought up on corruption charges there. 551 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 5: And then we just had the story last week where 552 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 5: several of the ministers in the I forget it's the 553 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 5: interior economy. There was a few ministers scattered throughout the 554 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 5: Ukrainian governments that had been whip and around Kiev in 555 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 5: black escalades and fancy rides. All this was supposed to 556 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 5: be war funding that had mysteriously gone missing and they 557 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 5: had to resign and disgrace and people say, well, that's 558 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: the Lenski cleaning out, it's good for him. It's like, no, 559 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 5: this is how the country has worked for decades since 560 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 5: really the fall of the Soviet Union. This is how 561 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 5: Ukraine has worked. It is an incredibly corrupt country. Yes, 562 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: it's stuck between a rock and a hard place between 563 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: Russia and between Western Europe. And that's not a good 564 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 5: Those aren't good conditions for democracy to just thrive in Ukraine. 565 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 5: That has always been a corrupt country. And now we've 566 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 5: decided to memory hold that because we, you know, our 567 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 5: politicians and the American government doesn't want to be held 568 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 5: accountable for when that ugly head initially. 569 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: Rears worth note or eventually worth noting that Tucker Carlson, 570 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: who has a background in wanting all sides to be 571 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: heard and a full conversation and vetting of public policy, 572 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: including wartime activities, has raised a number of questions about Ukraine. 573 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: And he's said that Michael McCall, Republican from Texas, was 574 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: leading Foreign Affairs Committee chairs it I guess now, I 575 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: believe that's right. He said that McCall told him that 576 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: the Deep State had had informed McCall that Tucker Carlson 577 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: was a stooge for Putin, that he was a Russian 578 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: controlled ascid. I guess raising questions makes you dangerous, which 579 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: makes you a very dangerous man. 580 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: Bradley Devon. 581 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: Thanks Devlin, thanks for being our guest. 582 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: Thank you