1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: R and B money. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: We are. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Thanks, take out the child. We are the authority on 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: all things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen, my name 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: is Tank. 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 4: Everybody podcast the A Thorty on all things r. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have been waiting. 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: I have been prayed. 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: The time has come. 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: I have been I have been hoping. 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: I said, Lord, if you send us anybody, send us that. 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: Name doesn't mean it doesn't doesn't name name one of 13 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: the coldst ever. 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: That's simple, ladies and gentlemen, mister Rob, I want to 15 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: do this because to me, to my brother Jay, what's 16 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: going on, this is this is really special. I want 17 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: to let you know that. And so for me, I 18 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: have a bottle of champagne. Come on, what you're gonna Donna? 19 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: I was wanting to celebrate. 20 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't like to because we we we've been talking 21 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: about this for a while. 22 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: They got to stop me from celebrating. 23 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 5: You know, they don't they don't earned Listen, you have 24 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 5: earned the right to celebrate one of your favorite songs. 25 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: Come on, it's a celebrate this another I have I have. 26 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about this and we've at the 27 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: time will come, and the time has come. And this 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: is not and the time is right better late than never. 29 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: This is in God's own time. The universe is saw 30 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: fit for this to be the moment. Yes, and what 31 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna do is that's that, Mama, Lord, what we're 32 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna pop. 33 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: I told you the muscle. I told you, sir, it was. 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: Your shirt was all nicely iron. Now you're just ruined. 35 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: The want your shirt. I saw you walking in. I 36 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: opened that looking like you've been doing dishes. 37 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: Now and stuffs. 38 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 3: Open up at the bottom of your your shirt. Any 39 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: by any means necessary, you've. 40 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: Been just that your pain, not not yet not your brother, 41 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 4: travel to meet it. 42 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: Get us right, championship. 43 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 6: Yeah. 44 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, but those are R 45 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: and B glasses my brother money. It was money. You 46 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: know glasses say R B money on them. They don't. 47 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yes they do, My lord from. 48 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: The United Center, Come on, United Chicago, United, the United 49 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: Center gave us our own glasses, our own Uh. 50 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. The house that Michael Jordan's in, the house that 51 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: R and B Money lives in. 52 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: This is this is this is for us. You being here, brother, 53 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: it means the world to us. Man, we have been fans, 54 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: and we have been brothers for a long time. Man, 55 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: but today we get to celebrate you, man, the way 56 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: we've always wanted to. 57 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: Man. You know, R and B runs in my blood. Man, 58 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: what's my name? R O B. 59 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Come on now, all, I'm gonna take you back to 60 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: the beginning. I'm gonna take you back to the beginning. 61 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: There's a there's a there's a good friend of mine 62 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: by the name of Dreno, and Dreino says to me, Nicole, 63 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: I got I got some I got some shoes. You 64 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: need to hear. He about to kill every body, to 65 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: kill everybody. 66 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: Was crazy. 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: I was like, let me, let me hear this person 68 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: who's supposed to be messing with me and all of 69 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: my R and B constituents. And he begins to play 70 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: this song. Oh god, he's the man, he said. It 71 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: hadn't even dropped yet, because I'm going to bring a 72 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: full circle for you. That was the late Great Andre 73 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: heralds cousin O'Neil Dreno. Okay, who is playing this music 74 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: for me? He said, Andre has him has the one 75 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: and and he showed me a picture. 76 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: Of you with with the Lord Jesus. 77 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: With the whip and I said, he's going to kill him, 78 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: all of them. 79 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: And I had I had never heard anything like that before. 80 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 3: And I was going for the first album. 81 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to just make something that never existed, bro, 82 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: and that was that was a fun album to make. Man. 83 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: I think it was like, you know, because I think 84 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: we all have we all have a natural judgment when 85 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: it comes to things and all, and it all starts 86 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: from it all starts from the look in the appearance. 87 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: And it's like when I first when I saw the picture, 88 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: I heard the music first, then I saw the picture, 89 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, how how the fuck did that happen? Because 90 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying this like almost like disco esque 91 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: vibe with the with with the with the with the 92 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: Tony Montana. 93 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: So I'm like, what is this? And how is he 94 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: doing that? 95 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 7: How? 96 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: How are you doing that? Robin right on the back cover, 97 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: right like. 98 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Take me to the beginning to where you even where 99 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: you even start constructing the fibers and the textures that 100 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: that design who you are. 101 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know, the funny thing is, you know, I 102 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: come from six generations of musicians. My grandfather was a 103 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: jazz trumpet player. His father was a jazz trumpet player. 104 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: My dad was a soulful guy, you know, love to 105 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: write songs, love to sing h you know, wrote with 106 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: Richard Pryor and you know, and all these kind of things. 107 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: So my dad was a soulful guy and enlightened for 108 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: his time, you know. And my mom her number one 109 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: song was Friends and Lovers in the eighties with Carl Anderson, 110 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: a black R and B singer. 111 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: So all of this this stuff has been built. 112 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: I joked that my family's been trying to be black 113 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: from sixth generations, and I'm just to get it. 114 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean. We made it. We 115 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: made it, Joe Shit, we did it, Joe, It did it? 116 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: Joe. 117 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I love. 118 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: I really loved the culture just as a kid. I mean, 119 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: whether it was Eddie Murphy or or you know, Michael 120 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: Jackson and Prince And when I was a seven between 121 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: seven and twelve years old, it was all black music, 122 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: black culture, and and then and then rap music and 123 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: then then hip hop and then when Joe Desy and 124 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: Boys to Men and that era happened. I was thirteen 125 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: and I was very impressionable, and I was in a 126 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: singing group with three other black guys, and it was 127 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: all legit. It just you know, And so my whole 128 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: life and my whole culture has been black music and 129 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: black culture. And when you come to my shows, it's 130 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: ninety percent black people. Like it's not even you know, 131 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: that's just, oh, we were as one as one, you know, fourteen, 132 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: because we're all black. And I'm fourteen years old and 133 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm wearing a double breasted Steve Harvey suit and I 134 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: got a cigar in my hand and my hair slicked. 135 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: Back, gangster like, you know. So I've always been what 136 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: I am, you know. And I love R and B. 137 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: I love really soul music, R and B music, hip 138 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: hop music, black coach, black comedy I watched, I watched 139 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: B e T. I showed up to school with the 140 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: Jet magazine when I was fourteen. 141 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: Out of here. We all grew up on the Jet 142 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: Beauty a week, Beauty a week No my mom. 143 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: To have that, got to check it out when I 144 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: was fourteen. So and you know, then then being married 145 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: to Paula Patten and just you know, my whole life 146 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: has been embedded in the black experience in black culture, 147 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: and that's that's where I belong. 148 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: You know, it was you know in hearing that in 149 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: your first entry, it was like there was no there 150 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: was no try, there was no there was nothing extra 151 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: on it. It was very author I was like, I 152 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: was like, where is he from? 153 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: I don't want to go nowhere else because. 154 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's not living a lot. He's telling the 155 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: truth in this music. What he's doing. 156 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I got I got the same guy in 157 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: me that you know that the Baptist Church got in 158 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: and you know what I mean. Whatever it is like 159 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: like we feel the music, we feel the soul, we 160 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: feel the pain, we feel the history, We understand the 161 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: journey where we need to support each other, we need 162 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: to believe in each other. We need to you know, 163 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: stay on the right paths and and and just be 164 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: a family. Like when I go to the BT Awards 165 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: or something like that, that's like a family reunion for me, 166 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 167 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: And that's that's just who I am. And it's always 168 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: been real to me. Yeah, when did is your is your? 169 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: Is? 170 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: You're coming up in this family of so many generations 171 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: of of of really incredible musicians. When does someone point 172 00:09:54,600 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: out that you are actually going to continue in that line? 173 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: When does somebody say oh he's got it too. 174 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think it doesn't. I'm sorry, how do you mean, 175 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: like at what age. 176 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: Did did did you discovered or did or did somebody 177 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: say you have it? 178 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: Well? It started with you know, my good friend Tabiso 179 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: and Kye, who ended up writing hit songs and being 180 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 2: a music manager and a music publisher. And he was 181 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: the first. He was when I was fourteen. He was 182 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: in the group with me as one. 183 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: He was my group. 184 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: Tab was in that group, you know Tab. So this 185 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: is what so Tab was my first So Tab had 186 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: Tab told me how to take pictures, how to go 187 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: into the office. We would go to the office and 188 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: I would sing jodasy and commissioned songs. 189 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I am here. Yeah, running back to you, 190 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: running back Yeah yeah. 191 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: It starts with Tab. 192 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: He becomes mine. 193 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: This is how you're go I started dressing like him. 194 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: I started, you know what I mean, like he was 195 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: like he was just this is stuff. You know how 196 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: long I've known Tab? Yeah, and this is the first 197 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: time ever hearing this story. 198 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my brother. 199 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: And then so then we did some demos that got 200 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: heard by Tricky Stewart's camp. M So I go in 201 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: the studio at fifteen years old writing with Tricky Stewart. 202 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: So this is how much information I'm getting as a 203 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen year old songwriter and singer. Then next 204 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: door working to Tricky Stewart is Brian mckknight, who I 205 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: had studied. Brian McKnight's whole first album that was a 206 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: huge album and a huge influence on me. Brian, here's 207 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: what I'm doing with Tricky. He brings me in. He 208 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: signs me to his record label at Interscope Records when 209 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm sixteen years old. So now I'm writing with Tricky Stewart, 210 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm working with Brian mckknight. Then Jordan Knight from New 211 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: Kids on the Block. Here's the work I'm doing with 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: Brian McKnight. I go in the studio with him, I produce, 213 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 2: I write and produce his whole first solo album. And 214 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: guess who Jordan Knight takes me around to work with 215 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: and be in the studio with Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis, 216 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Walter Affinasif Raphael Sadik, I'm seventeen years old, he A'm 217 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen years old, and I'm writing with all and 218 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: producing with all of those guys. 219 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 3: So the I went to school. 220 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: I went to Harvard and yale A Music when I 221 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: was sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. Brian McKnight, you know, 222 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean, the Take six would come by and be 223 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: singing Army. I'm just sitting there learning, just listening watching. 224 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean, and Take six is how I learned how 225 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: to riff the main group that I that I studied, 226 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: and that's when why when Brian and I came out, 227 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: we were also excited because I was a huge Take 228 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 2: six man. 229 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: But I learned every Take six song and riff. That 230 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 3: was it. That was the training that was that was 231 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: done right there. You know what I mean. 232 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: Once you learn how to sing Take six, you could 233 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: sing anything. You can sing anything anything. 234 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: Well, are you actually going to school at this point too? 235 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: There? 236 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 3: Are you are? You know? 237 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: I was out my senior year. I decided to move 238 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: out my senior year. My dad was very disappointed. Shout 239 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: out to Alan Thick, we love you and miss you. 240 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 5: Dropped out because I had a record deal, I had 241 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 5: a publishing y Jody saying yeah pretty much. 242 00:12:59,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: No. No. 243 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 3: What I did was I got the tutor and like 244 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: and like paid three hundred dollars for the tutor to 245 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 3: give me a bee, you know what I mean. And 246 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: then I just showed up a graduation and with the 247 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: cabin gown and all that. Everybody was like, what hell 248 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: you doing a day? You were here like the first 249 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: week in September and they had come back like. 250 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 7: You ain't paid at three hundred read my god right here. 251 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: So so yeah, so I just snuck out. 252 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 2: But really my senior year, I already had a record deal, 253 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: I had a publishing deal. I was in the studio, 254 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, ten twelve hours a day with these kind 255 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: of talents, you're professional. Yeah, I mean I was in 256 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: and the training that you know here those ten thousand hours, 257 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: the outliers theory and stuff. I got ten thousand hours 258 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: by the time I was twenty one, and then it 259 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: was time for me to focus on my own career. 260 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: And then who comes into my life? Andre around because 261 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: I knew what to do. 262 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 263 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I was having a great time as 264 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: a songwriting producer, but I didn't know who I was 265 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 2: going to be as an artist. And the album that 266 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: I made with Brian Knight by the time we started, 267 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: when I'm sixteen. But by the time I'm nineteen, Jimmy 268 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: I mean, was like. 269 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: You know what it it's okay, it's good. 270 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: I give it a B plus, you know, but we're 271 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: not going to spend a lot of money promoting and baa. 272 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: I was like, you know it, don't even put it 273 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: out shelfit. 274 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: I'm out of here. 275 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: Let me go work on myself and and figure out 276 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: who I'm going to be as an artist. Then Andrea Herrel, 277 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: like the angel comes into my life. Teaches me how 278 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: to walk and talk it, how to connect with people 279 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: instead of just paint, how to make the painting connect 280 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And how to be a 281 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: part of the culture. Executive. He taught me, you know, 282 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: he took me shopping, he bought me, you know, he 283 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: told me what music. So he walked in with the 284 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: fifth of Beethoven. He when I was making the album, 285 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: he said, you know this Saturday Fever album. He said this, 286 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: this is the kind of sound. This disco. Everybody loves 287 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: this go just go last for everybody. Want to celebrate, 288 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: everybody want to dance, listen to this album. So I'm 289 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: listening to the album and first thing that camera mout 290 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: I wrote that in about ten minutes, you know, and 291 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: that ended up being. 292 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: The first single of my artistic career. You know, did 293 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: you did I perform that song? I do now. 294 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes, but I didn't. I didn't perform it live in 295 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: our shows. 296 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: No, why not? 297 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: I know, I probably should all the time? What I 298 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: probably should all the time? 299 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: Shoot? 300 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: Well, you shooter most of the time. Yeah. Oh, the 301 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: set's different. The set's different since I, uh, what, yeah, 302 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: we do that, we do that usually. 303 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: Said, this guy's been robbed before. Guys had to be 304 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: And I was in. 305 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: The bank when it got robbed. Yeah, I was laying down. 306 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: The whole story is true. Hold on what that whole song? 307 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: I was eighteen years old, Paula was sitting in the 308 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: car outside waiting. 309 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: I was. 310 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: I went in to get like three hundred dollars, but 311 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: we're going to go to Santa Barbara to my dad's 312 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: ranch and spend the weekend together. A romantic eighteen year old, 313 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: you know, get away and I go in the bank 314 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, they get get down on 315 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: the floor, but get the buck on the floor. I 316 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: turn around. Three guys. One's coming right. He points the 317 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: gun right at me because I'm standing at the counter. 318 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: He points the gun right at me. I get down. 319 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: Of course, he comes to the counter, he hops over 320 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: the counter, you know, goes for the money. And then 321 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: the rest of the story that develops. Lady walks into 322 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: a shotgun surprise. A lady walked in to the guy 323 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: that had a shot gun at the front door. Every 324 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: word of that song is true. The fuck out of 325 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: here at eighteen, story at eighteen. And then you know, 326 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: luckily nobody was hurt in the end. But when even 327 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: when I say when I say, lady walks into a 328 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: shocking surprise, drops down to her knees, saw her life 329 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: for her eyes. He said, bitch, she's gonna get at. 330 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Everybody going regret it. I'm your That was he did. 331 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: He said, if anybody moves this, bitch is gonna get 332 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: so those all those words in this song are true. 333 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: My hands up, my hands up. They want me with 334 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: my hands up? 335 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: No shooter. 336 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: Wow, I never knew that that might be the best 337 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: songwriting story that I've ever heard. 338 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: Write your life the second verse just for the funny 339 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: it because that's what we're doing. The second verse is 340 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: thiefs flying off at the mouth talking about dumping and 341 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: wetting me something because they were like, you're about to 342 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: get dumped on. 343 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: You're just about to get wet up in here. And 344 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: I'm like these white people don't know what translator. I'm like, 345 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: lucky on me. I'm like I told you I'm part 346 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: of the cultures. I'm I'm like, I know a dumbing 347 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 3: and wedding is. But again, but lay down, guys. 348 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: What they're saying, yeah, okay, everyone, they're trying to They 349 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: just want you to lay down. 350 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: You're gonna get dumped on and get wet on. Okay, 351 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: I mean shooting. You don't want that. They're gonna shoot, 352 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: and none of us want that to happen. Are you 353 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: kidding me? Yeah? 354 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: That's a great part of art, man, is that it 355 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: can come from anywhere. And when I was younger, I 356 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: really challenged myself for those kind of things. 357 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: Give me your energy as this album drops, because I 358 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: think the album the album dropped and the first single, 359 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: of course, where we all heard the first single, but 360 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: comparatively speaking, this wasn't the blast off as we as 361 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: we as we know hindsight looking. 362 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: Correct, this is where the magic happens. 363 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: What was your where are you artistically? And even mentally 364 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: after this project drops, because there's still so much work 365 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: to do, even with this great music you have. 366 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: Well, what happened was there was so much hype in 367 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Andrea Herrel connecting me to the most fabulous people in 368 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: in you know the world. At times, I was very 369 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: ahead of my accomplishments. 370 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: I had. 371 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: All of the cool people were listening to it. Jay 372 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: Z was listening to it, Forarre was listening to it. 373 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: Usher had it. You know, every they all had it 374 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: because Andre had was friends with all of them, so 375 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: it was easy for him to get all of the 376 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: coolest people in music. 377 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: Mariah had it. 378 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: So I threw a Halloween party before the album came out. 379 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Naomi Campbell was there, but Mariah Carey was there, Paul 380 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: Thomas Sanderson and the movie director Mariah Maria's is the 381 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: Halloween party. Maria's got pom poms and she's dancing on 382 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: the dance floor till you know three am. So we've 383 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: got oh Seal was there, So yeah, so, and we're 384 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: just listening to my album before it even comes out 385 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: in my studio at my house at top of Blue 386 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: Jay Way, you know what I mean. So I was 387 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: so I thought I was about to beat that thing, 388 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm you know, so then 389 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden it drops, sales don't happen. 390 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: I go to Jimmy, I'm you know. 391 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: Months later, I'm like, Jimmy, don't feel like you you know, 392 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: with support of the record, Jimmy goes in, he goes 393 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: tell me, tell me the Robin Dick numbers. Tell me 394 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: the numbers on Robin Dick goes six million, six million. 395 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: I spent on this, you know whatever it is, so 396 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: so everyone believed. Everyone believed it doesn't hit, it doesn't sell. 397 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: Culturally praised, uh, Rolling Stone magazine said it was Marvin 398 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: Gaye backed by Radiohead, and you know, so so we 399 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: had that, you know what I mean. 400 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: But but then what happens next is I go through Uh? 401 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: Who am I without success? What am I going to 402 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: be in this world? If if my music doesn't hit? 403 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: I was born to do this and and everyone said 404 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: it was going to be a big success and I 405 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: had all the right people around me, and it still 406 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: didn't hit. 407 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: What what do I do now? 408 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: And that is the evolution of Robin Thick. All those 409 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: songs were written. Next, I got to be down with 410 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: Faith's evans. I'm too complicated? 411 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: Would that make you love me? 412 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm lost without you. I got to ask myself what 413 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to be. 414 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I need love. 415 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 2: Can you believe when all hope is gone? I need 416 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: to look to the sky lonely world. Don't you worry, babe? 417 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: How will you get by angels? 418 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You are in a space, maam. 419 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: And that's when the magic happened, man. And that's those 420 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: are the best songs in the best moment, you know. 421 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: That's those songs are hard to repeat, and yet they 422 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: mean even more to me today, after twenty years later, 423 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: of everything I've been through. They're even more powerful to 424 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: me today when I sing them, Absolutely yeah, because I 425 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: spoke it before it happened. Lonely World, those lyrics are 426 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: pretty much the story of me meeting my new lady, 427 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: you know, my relationship with my son, all before it 428 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: ever happened. All these things spoke into existence and then 429 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: manifested in the next twenty years. 430 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 3: We need a song process for a loss without you. 431 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: We need a process. What was the process? 432 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: That was a quick one where with my bass player 433 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: Sean Hurley, who ended up working with John Mayer for 434 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: twenty years and one of the most amazing musicians I've 435 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: ever worked with. And he just comes over and you're like, 436 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: got this little thing, and he goes, diod Oh and 437 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: my my producing partner of twenty years from the beginning, 438 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: pro J, shout out to Proj and he does everything 439 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: to me. He grabs the the sweeper that you use 440 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: to sweep out the fireplace, and right next to it 441 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: while Chris Sean Hurley's playing and I'm singing, he goes 442 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: and that we recorded to I said, that's so cool. 443 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: That's so it's actually a fireplace sweeper. Is the shaker 444 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: on Loss Without You? But yeah, So about a couple 445 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: of weeks later, I started thinking to myself. I was 446 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: trying to write the verses, and I actually thought, I 447 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: was like, you know, if I was writing for Usher 448 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: or something, because I really wanted to be a big, 449 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: big hit, you know, and usually I just kind of 450 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: go to art up and I was like, if I 451 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: was writing this for Usher, how would I do the 452 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: verses because I just worked with Usher on his project 453 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So so I kind of wrote the 454 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: verses thinking that I was writing for usher. 455 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: How funny is that smash? Some mash smash? 456 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 5: So okay, So all these years you put in your 457 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 5: twenty thousand hours at this point, like no, seriously, right, 458 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 5: like you put it, you put it, you put in 459 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 5: real time. Like I remember when I got my first 460 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 5: solo deal. 461 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: They took me to your house. They took me, yes, yeah, 462 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: they took me. 463 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 5: Daryl Williams from from from Elektra took me to your house. 464 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: And you hadn't had your music out yet either though. 465 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 466 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah that ear he was writing, writing for 467 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: a lot of different y Stone up there. 468 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we seen in me a line 469 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: we had people were. 470 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 5: And I'm like, yeah, maya and they playing in pro 471 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 5: jus like the whole thing. So I saw the process, 472 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 5: you know what I mean really really early on. So 473 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 5: after you you've done all that, you're writing for people, 474 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 5: you working with everybody, now you have your first smash. 475 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the feeling for you at this point? Oh man? 476 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: Just you know, I remember just being feeling like, Okay, 477 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: I'm not crazy, I'm okay. I thought it was good. 478 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty good music. 479 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, no, you just you just kind of 480 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: say thank you God, you know, and you just you 481 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: just enjoy the moment and and then the ride happens 482 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: quickly and then you know, next thing, you know, I'm 483 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: on Oprah twice. A couple of months later, I do 484 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 2: a summer tour with Beyonce. 485 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: So that's all within like six summer tour with beyond. 486 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 2: Oprah twice, Yeah, and Oprah com Oprah had me back 487 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: a month later because she, you know, was a brad 488 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: the album I loved and Yeah, and the numbers were 489 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: so high once once I was on Oprah, the number 490 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: the sales sales from your Yeah, so it was just 491 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: like weekly and again it was all you know, we 492 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: had number one R and B album for like twelve weeks, 493 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it was Yeah, it 494 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: was we was in there. Wow. 495 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: And you know, it's just you just stay grateful. 496 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: And then and then comes, you know, the roller coaster 497 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: of fame and the stuff you've been you know, waiting 498 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: for for twenty years and all the complications that come 499 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: with that. 500 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: Did you perform I could be mistaken, but I feel 501 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: like you performed lost without you on the Grammys or 502 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: good they were doing, we were doing and everything amazing performance. 503 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: Amazing performance. Thank you. I appreciate that, absolutely amazing. I 504 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: was like, he's really good. 505 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: Because it's like you said, those type of hits, the 506 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: those are once in a lifetime moment for people because 507 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: we'll get. 508 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: To even just the songwriting connection, like when you when 509 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: you write a song and you know the feeling and 510 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: that song comes on in the audience and there's this 511 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: collective wave of love and appreciation and sentimentality and positivity 512 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: that just flows out of that song. Makes people feel yeah, 513 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: because they they had so many good times to that song, 514 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: and you can't take that away from them. They they 515 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: were in the bed with somebody they loved listening to that, 516 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: you know. They they were on vacation dancing with the 517 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: one they loved when they heard that, you know what 518 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: I mean. And that's I can't take away that that 519 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: that feeling and that connection. 520 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: I feel like anytime a song can fill in the blanksh. 521 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: It just it just takes voicemail. This is what I 522 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: want to say to you. It feels in the blanks. 523 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: It's just it's just something about it. 524 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: And as you say, these songs mean so much more, 525 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: Like you know, twenty whatever years and you're you're like 526 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: when they come on, it's like it's deal and puts 527 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 1: you back there. 528 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: And now it's like. 529 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: These songs are refreshing because of everything else that's going on. 530 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: Now that's just not like it. 531 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, the best things standard 532 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: test of time, and and love is in the end. 533 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: You know, love is that connection we're all looking for 534 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: and the best songs. You know, a man or a 535 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 2: woman or whatever you're each side of the partnership can 536 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: listen to the same song and feel the same connection 537 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: to it, even though you know they're both on different 538 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: sides of the relationship. Yeah, as the song just when 539 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: it speaks for all of us, it connects to all 540 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: of us. 541 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, I want to ask you a question before 542 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: before we go to the monster, I want to ask 543 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: you a question. Me and me and Jay talk about 544 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: this a lot. You came you you you came up 545 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: and not only just a very talented family, but. 546 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: Pops was guy. 547 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: Pops was a god like you had You had the 548 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: you had the fame, you had the money, you had 549 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: the you know, probably all the things that you needed 550 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: to just be cool. But you are still chasing this 551 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: with a hunger like like you don't have it, like 552 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: you don't come from it. Yeah, yeah, what does that 553 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: come from? I think it's just you know, it's that rare. 554 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: Thing that that. 555 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: All of us have it. But when you when you 556 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: know it early and there's no doubt about it, Like 557 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: when people try to tell me, like, you know, what 558 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: do I need to do to be? You just are 559 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: you just are? You already see it? You already know 560 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: what's going to happen. You've are you know, you just 561 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: know it very early on, Like nothing's going to stop 562 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: me from learning what I need to learn, practicing what 563 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: I need to practice, out working the guy or girl 564 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: next to me, and sooner or later, you know, my 565 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: some form of these dreams will come true and I 566 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: will I will get to that that place. 567 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: But it's like most people who are in this comfortable 568 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: space growing up in this we already have it, don't 569 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: have that level of hunger or even confidence in their 570 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: own ability to get their own. 571 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 572 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: Was there like was there a thing in you to say, Okay, 573 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: popsot his, but that's his, I gotta get mine. 574 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 575 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: Of course there's a competitive spirit and that that happens 576 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: in a lot of families. Whether it's if you're a lawyer, 577 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: sometime just becomes a better lawyer or bigger, or because 578 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: he had the connections or he had the information. Because 579 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: Dad's connections didn't totally help me that. 580 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: Way, but his belief in me. He put me in 581 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: the room with David Foster. 582 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: When I was thirteen, I was in the studio like 583 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: these with Natalie Cole when she was recording Unforgettable. 584 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm glad we got I got to come. He's poor 585 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: in it. 586 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: But the last, the one, the coupe de gras, the 587 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: one that takes the cake is One day I'm at 588 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: Joe Tory baseball camp in an Encino and I come 589 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: home and Kevin Costner is there at the piano with 590 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: this beautiful black woman and David Foster sitting and playing 591 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: a song and they are practicing I Will Always Love You. 592 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: Before they give it to Whitney. 593 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: I knew where he was going. 594 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: I knew, and I just walked past the piano and 595 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: I go into the uh, you know, going to my 596 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 2: room like it's not none. Then, like, what's Kevin Costner 597 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: doing here? 598 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: You know, my dad's not even there. 599 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: He just let David use his house because David was 600 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: working on another project at a studio right around the corner, 601 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: probably you know, one of those, and he said, I 602 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: need enough. I'm gonna have to come to your house, 603 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: Alan and use your piano and meet with Kevin real quick. 604 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: So that was that was what I walked in. That's 605 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: what my dad knew. 606 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: Everybody everyone loved him and he was, oh yeah, no 607 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: on linder Sin's day one did Lyndon was around when 608 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: I was born. 609 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: Oh this is great. Oh yes, this is great, bro. 610 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: That is how crazy is that? It's a good time. 611 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, that's the quzy. It's just my life. 612 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: Probably it's my life. 613 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: And you know when when my dad passed away, Magic 614 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: Johnson sent me a note and was or he said 615 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: in the paper actually and he said it to me 616 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: personally again when I saw him recently, but he said, 617 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: Alan think was the first celebrity that I met when 618 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: I came to Los Angeles. My dad was at every 619 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: basketball and hockey game. He lived at the Forum. He 620 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: didn't miss a game. In fact, I was born when 621 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: he was headed to the Forum for a game and 622 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: my mom was like pregnant two weeks early. And I 623 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: remember my dad, you know, having fun of joke. Well, 624 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: you better be right, because I've got VIP parking passes, 625 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: you know, forever the comedian. 626 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, he just lived in those games. 627 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: He lived in that culture, and he was great friends 628 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: with Jerry Buss and Magic and Wayne Gretzky. Actually, when 629 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky was traded to the Kings, he was staying 630 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: at our house with Janet for two weeks. My dad 631 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: was in Russia with my older brother, and I was 632 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: at home at Joe Tory camp again. 633 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: And this is na storry to comedian guys. Yeah, this 634 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: is coach. 635 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: Of the New York Yankees Championships. But so I come 636 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: home and oh no, I'm at home in the morning. 637 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: At seven o'clock in the morning, the phone rings. I'm 638 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: getting ready to go to camp. And I answered the 639 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: phone as Bruce McNall, the owner of the Kings, and 640 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: he says, hey, Robin is, can you put me on 641 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: the phone with Wayne? And I go, well, he's sleeping. 642 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: You know, I really don't want to wake him. He goes, 643 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: you need to wake him. I need to talk to 644 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 2: him right now. 645 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 3: I go in there. 646 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: I say, hey, Wayne, Bruce is on the phone. You 647 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: gotta get it, he says. So Wayne answers the phone. 648 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: I go to camp, I come home Wayne's and Edmonton 649 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: at the podium. He was traded that morning. That was 650 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 2: the phone call when he got traded. 651 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: You took the call. 652 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: I took the call and told Wayne to get on 653 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: the phone. The day he was traded to the Kings. 654 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy. Your life was crazy, crazy crazy. This 655 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 2: is absolute And that's just by the time I'm twelve, 656 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, we didn't even we ain't 657 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: even got into nothing yet. 658 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 5: So there's one thing though, as we talk about these 659 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 5: great songs, because I'm like a I'm a deep cut guy. 660 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a deep cut guy. You've got this song 661 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: called Teach You a Lesson. 662 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yeah, I love that song. That's special, that 663 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: whole I still do that in the longest shows because 664 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: it's just such a moment, you know, because the way 665 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: you talk to people, like when you when you talk 666 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: to somebody and you really oh and you know how 667 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: personally that moment was. That was a real moment where 668 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: I felt every word of that. 669 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Amazing that a cocaine Oh 670 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: that was that was a true story. Well, it was 671 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: about all the temptations. 672 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: I'd never done cocaine, and it was all about the 673 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: temptations surrounding me in this fabulous lifestyle and these Hollywood 674 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: people and yeah, and as I was getting into the 675 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: world of these superstars and you know, the late night 676 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: parties and some of that kind of stuff and so, yeah, manies. 677 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: But the funny not me. I wasn't arrested. But I 678 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: saw a friend of mine in that world. 679 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: And I was driving through Beverly Hills and I just 680 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: saw him in an alley getting getting put into a car, 681 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: and I was like, that's my homie, and I just 682 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: I just didn't know if it was cocaine or whatever. 683 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: But when I was getting into all that world, that Hollywood, No, 684 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: I just. 685 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 3: Don't know what it was. 686 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: I remember that visual and being afraid for him. It 687 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: turned out he was carrying a gun and it wasn't drugs. 688 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: But but the fact that I saw a friend who 689 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: I thought might have gotten caught with cocaine inspired the 690 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: line of I'm standing in an alley with my hands 691 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: behind here. 692 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: I am listening to the album like man rob up. No. 693 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: No, I never, man, I had never. It was all 694 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: about the temptations and how do you stay away from it? 695 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: And that that. 696 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 5: Songwriting, but that is actually a song where you put 697 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 5: people in a place. No matter what it is, it 698 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 5: could be good bad whatever. 699 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: You write screenplays, bro, Yeah, man, there's some good ones man, 700 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: you know. 701 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: But I love That's the thing. I love music, and 702 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 2: my songs are my story, you know, and that's what 703 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: I leave behind, you know. And so when you listen 704 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: to my songs that they are literally telling my life story. 705 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: You know. 706 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: Besides, if you dance record, yes, and then dance records, 707 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: like when you make a dance record, you just want 708 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: people to dance, you know. 709 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: I'm in record playing right there in the in the 710 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: first room on the right with a guy by the 711 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: name of t I. He's working on some music. I'm 712 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: in there with him. Were actually working with me this 713 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: story after you heard it, Actually esp actually working. 714 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: On We have an artist we're working on together. At 715 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: the time, we had a little partnership. We're doing it. 716 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: So we're just in the studio kicking it and somebody 717 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: walks in and says, hey, I need you to get 718 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: to this Robin record. 719 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: He's like, He's like, hey, all right, do it up. 720 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: Pull it up. 721 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: He said, this is the record. We think it's going 722 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: to be a big record. We need you want it. 723 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: He's got to have you on it. And he's like, 724 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: all right, played that motherfucking record. The T I says, 725 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: turn the micael I love it, goes in the booth, 726 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: listens to it maybe one more time and does that 727 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: entire rap from top to box. 728 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 3: No, he does not. Absolutely watched. I watched him do it. 729 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 3: I was like, no way, I've never seen him in 730 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 3: studio before. For a moment, I didn't know that. 731 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 732 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: Top to bottom, didn't write nothing, nothing. Yeah, it's a talent. 733 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: And I looked that said oh that's why you okay 734 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 2: r T I, Yeah, that's that's that's amazing. I can't 735 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: believe he just went in and dropped. 736 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: It like that. And I'm there and I'm like, this 737 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: is going to go crazy. Yeah. 738 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: Jay and Wayne did the same thing when I worked 739 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: with them. Yeah, incredible how they. 740 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: Can do that. 741 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: But I just I remember hearing that song and knowing 742 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: that nothing or no one was going to be able 743 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: to stop you. When this record came out, and then 744 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: the video. I saw the video and I said, everything 745 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: was right. 746 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 5: Everything made all the right decisions, man, at least from 747 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 5: the outside. 748 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: I remember Jimmy I having called me as soon as 749 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 2: he saw the video. It calls me at seven thirty 750 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: am and goes, Robin. 751 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: Is going to be the biggest record of your life. 752 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 3: There's going to be number one all around the world. 753 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: This is incredible. 754 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 3: I love this record. 755 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 2: I love this video. 756 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 3: It is the best thing you've ever done. 757 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be huge. 758 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure of it. And I remember, and 759 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: now it's not just on the radio. It's not just 760 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: you know. 761 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: I remember being an Arenas with you watching every night 762 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: this song shake the fucking arena. 763 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 2: Wow, not a couple of nights, those were times every night. 764 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: Those are times every night. 765 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: That's Temple records are tough for soulful guys anyway already, 766 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: but that that's different, man. 767 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 2: As the brilliance of phar Real Mania was the most 768 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 2: talented person I've ever been in a room with. You know, 769 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 2: he's so the story behind it, well, we had three 770 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: days in the studio. We did three records, one record 771 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 2: a day. Blurred Lines was on the third day. My 772 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: dad actually came by the studio just to say hi. 773 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: But he happened to be there the night Blurred Lines 774 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 2: was made, and it was the kind of song like 775 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: you know, people were hearing it from the other studios, 776 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: and the lady at the front desk and the manager 777 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: of the studio and everybody just kind of started putting 778 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: their head in, you know what I mean, and wanted 779 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: to hear it. And then and as we were adding 780 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: those last little ad libs whatever, but you know, we're 781 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: playing it loud, we're figuring out what the little pieces 782 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: that are missing, and but right from the start, next thing, 783 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: I know, the whole room is dancing, and you know, 784 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 2: it was just that kind of and people couldn't stop 785 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: coming in from outside to uh to hear the record. 786 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: You know, Here's and there were like some other there 787 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: was a crew of other rappers that Farah was working with. 788 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 2: I can't recall right now, but they all wanted to 789 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: come in and hear it. And that's when we kind 790 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: of knew like we had something. 791 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: Here's a questions as a vocalist, right, this song, this 792 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: song has so many different things stylistically that you did 793 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: vocally that was different. Was that Pharrell saying no, do 794 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: it like this? Or was that you just in character, 795 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: saying I feel like this right now, like this. 796 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 3: Is where I think. 797 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 2: By then, I had already learned a lot from Pharrell, 798 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: And you know, when we did want to Love Your Girl, 799 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: he was like, make it sound a little more a 800 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 2: Britch and I did a little more British because he 801 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: wanted it to sound you know what I mean. But 802 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 2: by then him and I it was our third day together, 803 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: which is very rare to get three days in a 804 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: row with Pharrell anyway, and by the third day the 805 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 2: flow was just so pure. He would say, yeah, because 806 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 2: I think the record just opened itself for being really 807 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: silly and playful, where a lot of times, with being 808 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: an R and B soul singer, are you trying to 809 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 2: emotion emotion emotion? But that song has a lot of 810 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 2: humor in it, you know, And that's why I think 811 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: it just it's just so much fun to listen to 812 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 2: because it's sexy, it's funny, and it's got the humor 813 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: in it. 814 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: The first of all, I want to say that Pharrell 815 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: owes me a studio session. He came to me one 816 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: day and said, man, I want to work with you, 817 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I want to work with you. 818 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to work with you. 819 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm available now I'm not sure and I've never 820 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: gotten my studio session with Farrell. 821 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 3: If you talk to him, you know, you know that. 822 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: Man is on a different plane. I mean what he's 823 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: doing with us Vuitton and everything. He's just he's evolved 824 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 2: into all things and and an inspiration in all categories, 825 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just as a human being 826 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 2: and a man of the community and a man of 827 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: art and every facet and he's a leader generation with 828 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 2: question you. 829 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 3: Uh, first, congratulations for getting Struck by Lightning. 830 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 5: Song now twelve million, Yeah, so all time, Okay, Yeah, 831 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 5: we did all right on that one. 832 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 2: There's you know, in years in ago, I got I 833 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: got divorced, I got sued, my father passed away, my 834 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: manager passed away, my house burned down, Andre Herrel passed away. 835 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: So all that was like boom boom, boom boom for. 836 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 3: Me, you know. 837 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: And so so this album is about how I got 838 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: through that, where I'm at now, what's important to me 839 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: now and my family and trying to replace that broken 840 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: family that I lost when I was a kid. 841 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: I love that because you know, you're sitting next to 842 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: fathers are who are actually fathers, yeah, real real dad 843 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: And you know, people always ask like, how do you 844 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: find balance, and I'm like, there is no balance. There 845 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: is just there's just ripping and running and trying to 846 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: be all you can be in those spaces, but more 847 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: important portantly for your kids. Like you want to be 848 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: all you can be in the space that provides for 849 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 1: your kids, exactly, but you also want to be all 850 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: you can be in the space with your kids. 851 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: And if you think of it percentage wise, if I 852 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 2: have six people, I mean five people, you know, my 853 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 2: lady and four kids that I need to provide love, attention, humor, cuddles. 854 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: You know, they all need it. They all need it, 855 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: they all want it, you know what I mean. So 856 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 2: that's that's twenty percent each of my time. And now 857 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: I haven't even gone to work yet, absolutely, you know. 858 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 3: What I mean. 859 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: So now you cut that in half, that's fifty. Now 860 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: they're down to ten percent each of them of my 861 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 2: time and my love and my energy. So you really 862 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: have to conserve it. You have to stay present in it, 863 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 2: and you have to make sure that that the time 864 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: is being spent valuably so everybody is getting enough to 865 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: feel that, you know, Papa's love or whatever that is, 866 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 2: you know, and so we have a lot of work 867 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: to do. 868 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get into this space, and especially you know 869 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: in your career and and how you've how successful you've been. 870 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: When of one of my friends, Terry's, hit me with 871 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: a phrase a few a few weeks ago, he said, well, 872 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the best use of 873 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: my time, and you gotta right, And so you gotta 874 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: you gotta make those decisions. 875 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: And older we get that, you know, we really want 876 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: to spend time with the people that make a smile 877 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 2: and laugh and dance and and feel loved and feel appreciated, 878 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 2: and that's where that's what we want to be. 879 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 5: When you when you first sat down before the cameras 880 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 5: went on, you're like, bro, I just did six shows. 881 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 3: Six cities and seven days. 882 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh no, you that's that's that is the real grind, 883 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 5: and that's how you look up and you've done this 884 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 5: thing for thirty years at the highest level. 885 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like people don't understand that. People don't understand that. 886 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 5: Like even when you talked about how you you know, 887 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 5: you spend your time, like that's time, Yeah, that's really 888 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 5: time dedicated to the craft. 889 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the rest is dedicated to the kids. Absolutely, yeah, 890 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: And that's that's what it's all about, coming up right 891 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: And you know what yet, well, I've been touring. Actually 892 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm with Boys and Men right now. I've been now 893 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: doing shows Boys Men. That's a great night because you know, 894 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: once again like getting to work with your idols or 895 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: just have like I learned every single harmony and ad 896 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 2: lib on that first album for sure, you know, and 897 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 2: then once they started doing work with Babyface and getting 898 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: that end of the road and I'll make Love to 899 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 2: you and you know and on bend and knees and 900 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 2: so these are records that I listened to driving as 901 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: a sixteen year old, like I want to be that 902 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to sing like that. I want that kind 903 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 2: of a hit, you know what I mean? And that's 904 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 2: that that hunger is good for you. 905 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 3: You know. Well we're about to segue, please do yeah, yeah, 906 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: how you feel Robin? Because because you look good? You 907 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 3: walked in smelling good and looking good. Do you do? 908 00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 3: You feel good? 909 00:44:59,760 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 2: Right now? 910 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: Now? 911 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: I feel delicious. 912 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 3: There ain't nothing wrong with that. 913 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: Special segment where we want to go to right now 914 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: and get some information from you know, You've written a 915 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: lot of songs for a lot of people, written songs 916 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: for yourself. 917 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 3: We just know that there are songs that have inspired you, 918 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 3: songs that have made you who you are. And we 919 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 3: don't want all the songs. 920 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 6: We just don't want. 921 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 3: We just want a few of the songs. And we 922 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 3: just like to call this your. 923 00:45:46,920 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 6: Top fun, your top five, top five, your top. 924 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 3: Fun, your top R and B singer. Whatelse R and. 925 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 7: B songs. 926 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 4: Were Dogs and doom be more you go bere on 927 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 4: this show. We don't good blow. I mean, yeah, hurrah, Yeah. 928 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 3: Break it down, break it down, your five Robin think 929 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 3: your top five R and B singers. 930 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: Oh, top five R and B singers. I mean that's 931 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 2: the at least the name my favorite because because I'm 932 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 2: I'm more of an old school man. Otis Redding. Yeah, yeah, 933 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:14,479 Speaker 2: you can't get past baby locked the door. Yeah, start 934 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: with that and then goes solve. I mean the way 935 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 2: he sings, uh uh, try a little tenderness, you know 936 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 2: what I mean, Just try so. Yeah, Otis Redding for sure. Stevie, 937 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 2: of course, gotta gotta get Stevie up in there. How 938 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 2: green Ain't nobody know how to keep it that's small 939 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 2: intimate intimacy that he provides. Marvin, of course, I can't 940 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 2: go without Morvin. 941 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 3: And then oh, oh well, I'm you know, I'm on 942 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: a guy. 943 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,439 Speaker 2: I'm doing all my favorite guys because mostly I would 944 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 2: listen to but Whitney. Then yeah, just you can't. You 945 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 2: can't make it Whitney and Aretha. I gotta do like 946 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 2: five six, Just I gotta have my two favorites, my 947 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 2: two favorites. I listened to so much Aretha and Whitney 948 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: that sculpted my vocal career. But as I got older 949 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: and you know, becoming a grown man and listening to 950 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 2: other grown men's stories at that same point in my life, 951 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that's when I started to 952 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 2: gravitate more towards Otis and Stevie, Marvin and al As 953 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: I got into my twenties and stuff like that, you know. 954 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 2: But early on, when I was in my teens, Whitney 955 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 2: was it. You know, you couldn't if you could do 956 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 2: a Whitney run, you knew what she was doing. She 957 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 2: was so quick and powerful. 958 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 3: Oh and just the. 959 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 2: Taste, precise, the taste, impeccable taste. 960 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 3: Robin, think your top five r and B songs. 961 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's stay together. What's going on? 962 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 3: Uh? 963 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 2: What's I always. 964 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 3: Forget the talents out of Bens guy, I always have 965 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 3: been there. 966 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 2: And uh for me, because of the effect it had 967 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 2: on me and my life and career, I would say forever, 968 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 2: my lady. 969 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 3: Why not? Why not? Yeah? Yeah, come on? That did 970 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: everything for me, everything for me, Look at me. That 971 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 3: was everything changed my life. Come on that record right there? 972 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 3: Who I used to order that on the jukebox. Remember 973 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 3: to talk about the box, that money. 974 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 2: If I had a girl come over. The first date 975 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 2: that was I was singing. I was standing in front 976 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 2: of Jodasy like I was a member of the TV 977 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 2: behind me, and oh you know, I went you got, 978 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 2: you got. I went right to my vocals. 979 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: Teaching early. Oh yeah, yeah I was. I was a 980 00:49:53,320 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 3: magic mic you know that can sing. Now I'm doing 981 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 3: town type dances, you know what I mean? One more 982 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 3: one more song? 983 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:09,959 Speaker 2: Okay, okay? 984 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 3: And B songs? 985 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 2: Oh you know what I gotta I gotta get a 986 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 2: Lauren Hill in there. Guys, you know you better watch 987 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 2: out some girls. And that's that's culture forever. That speaks 988 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 2: so many things to both do, both sexes. And cultures 989 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 2: and what a song, what a video? What the musical production? 990 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 2: Just incredible. 991 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna build your vultron your music. You're a super 992 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 3: R and B artists. 993 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: We want to know who you're gonna get the vocal 994 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: from the performance style, the styling, the passion of the artist. 995 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: And since you're so great at it, who's going to 996 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: write and produce for this artist? Let's start at the vocal. 997 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,959 Speaker 1: What vocal are you grabbing to build your super RB artist? 998 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,720 Speaker 2: You know what I think because of the most dynamic 999 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 2: I mean, for me, I love the I would pick Marvin, 1000 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just because there's just there 1001 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 2: was something he just when when he sings, it feels 1002 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 2: like the gates of heaven are opening up, and you 1003 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 2: know we're all welcome, you know what I mean. And 1004 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 2: uh and and there's a piece and a and a 1005 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: hope and a warmth. It's like a big warm hug, 1006 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,919 Speaker 2: you know every time he sings. Yeah, performance style, performance style. 1007 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 3: You know I would go. 1008 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 2: I'd go James Brown. I mean I don't think I 1009 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 2: think it all just starts the hardest. Yeah. I mean, 1010 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: of course this is Michael, which which is just magic 1011 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 2: that doesn't you can't even really quantify that. But for me, 1012 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: just like the the way James Brown and hits with 1013 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 2: his band and just he had he created this whole 1014 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 2: thing that inspired everybody that came after. And you know, 1015 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 2: and I'm a sweat you see me, I swear it 1016 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 2: out when it's time to really go, It's James Brown. 1017 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? The styling of the artists. 1018 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 2: Styling of the artist. Okay, okay, you know what. Then 1019 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 2: I would go Mike because he really he there was 1020 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 2: something that classy. It was dazzling, but it was every 1021 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 2: man could wear it, you. 1022 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 3: Know what I mean? 1023 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 2: And and uh, he just kept evolving and and that's 1024 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 2: what inspired Kanye's type of you know, metamorphosis as a 1025 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 2: as a fashion icon and h And then you can 1026 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 2: go right to who's the songwriter producer? That's Pharrell, you know. 1027 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 2: And I would just go Pharrell, but we. 1028 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 3: Gotta go passions, passion of the artist, the heart of 1029 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 3: the artist, heart of the passion. Oh. 1030 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 2: Then I would go with Otis. I'll go with Otis's 1031 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 2: heart because you know he we lost him early. I 1032 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,240 Speaker 2: mean you know that I believe he wrote and finished 1033 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 2: sitting on the dock of the bay and then passed 1034 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 2: before it was released, and and then it became sitting 1035 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 2: on the dock of the bay. Wow, I mean, come on, 1036 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 2: you know. So there was something about the heart, especially 1037 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 2: in the era also the era that he came from, 1038 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 2: you know. And once again I'm picking mostly male artists 1039 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 2: and producers, but but that's uh yeah, I mean the 1040 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 2: heart heart of Otis and Aretha. You know you could 1041 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 2: you could do the same thing like what came out 1042 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 2: of Aretha when she sang it. 1043 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 3: But oh oh oh no, I got a better one. 1044 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 2: Just the fun Nina Simone, the heart of Nina, the 1045 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 2: heart of Nina. Listen to that voice who for real 1046 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 2: writing and producing it, the passion of Nina Simone. Yeah, 1047 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: from the era she came up in as a black 1048 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 2: woman in those times, and the songs she wrote. 1049 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 3: It was so it was so many layers to that 1050 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 3: music and her songwriting, her lyricis, her lyrics. 1051 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 2: It's an amazing. 1052 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 3: We got one more thang for you, please do we 1053 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 3: got one more than because I got to go, I 1054 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 3: got I got to go, got to get home. 1055 00:53:51,120 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 7: I said, yeah, saying no, Nick, saying no name, are you. 1056 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 3: What you did? Don't say I ain't saying no. 1057 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 5: It's a very important sec very important secment song, not 1058 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 5: a song because now you wrote so many damn songs. 1059 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 3: Fat segment of the show, Will you tell us a story? Funny? 1060 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 3: Fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? 1061 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 2: Okay? 1062 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 3: Only rule to the game is you can't say no names. 1063 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, funny story. 1064 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 3: Life and time, Life and time, I'm robbing. 1065 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 2: Thick, okay, okay. So after the met ball, oh, she 1066 00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 2: know what? 1067 00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 3: You know what? 1068 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was a great 1069 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 2: night because uh and yeah, I won't include the name 1070 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 2: that has the punchline, but I'll use some other names 1071 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 2: to help. 1072 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 3: Get the story go. It right's part, but I won't 1073 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 3: use the punchline. 1074 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 2: So Jennifer Hudson is performing, which was amazing because that 1075 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 2: was the first time I'd ever seen her live. And 1076 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 2: after that I was so inspired. I went home and 1077 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 2: I wrote on her debut Grammy winning R and B album, 1078 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 2: and so she was performing. I actually was sitting at 1079 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 2: the table with Rihanna, who was very young in her 1080 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 2: and I had just done a photo shoot together for 1081 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 2: GQ mag It was a GQ Yeah, I think it 1082 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 2: was GQ magazine. Very early in her career. 1083 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 3: And so that night we end up going out. 1084 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 2: It's after party after party. We end up at Richie's 1085 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 2: Butter in New York City. Richie Akiva shout out to 1086 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 2: Richie Kieva at Butter in New York City. And I'm 1087 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 2: hanging out with this very famous, very talented Grammy Award 1088 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,760 Speaker 2: winning artists and We're making friends, We're having a blast, 1089 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 2: and he's like, you know, I after this, man, let's 1090 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 2: go back to my studio and and uh, you know, 1091 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 2: make some music. 1092 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 3: And I was like, man, not tonight, not tonight. I 1093 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 3: was like, you know. 1094 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 2: And so somehow he was affronted by you know, like 1095 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 2: felt rejected or something, and uh, and then it got 1096 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 2: to I don't want to do that, you know, and 1097 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 2: he was like, hey, man, you know I'm better than you. 1098 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 2: And I go, I go what I said, I'll take 1099 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 2: the Pepsi challenge with Joe asked. 1100 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 3: The Pepsi challenge. 1101 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 2: And we had already we already spent the night complimenting 1102 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 2: each other, we had met, we had met at the 1103 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 2: met Ball, we had already spent the night when we 1104 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 2: didn't really leave, we were like hanging out. We ended 1105 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 2: up going to like, Paul, let's go there. Now, let's 1106 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 2: go there. So we were making friends very quickly, and 1107 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 2: by the end of the story, Uh yeah, I think 1108 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 2: he was offended that I didn't want to go to 1109 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 2: the studio when we're at this incredible party to you know, 1110 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: I just didn't want to go afterwards, and I think 1111 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 2: he thought that I didn't, you know, that I was 1112 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 2: dissing him or something. Just finished with I'll take the 1113 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 2: PEPs of challenge with Joe. 1114 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 3: Did you guys remain? 1115 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 2: You know, we saw each other many years later at 1116 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 2: an airport Terminal six baggage. 1117 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 3: Claim, you know what I mean, and just was like it. 1118 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 3: You know, but man, you know, man, Man, you too. 1119 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 3: We don't really keep we don't really keep beef. We 1120 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 3: just don't hang out. We talk about the beef. Man. 1121 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 2: That is great. 1122 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good time. Robin you are you 1123 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: are who you are, man. Thanks for having me. Thank 1124 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Man, Hang with you continue success and 1125 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: for you. 1126 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 2: Congratulations on the rise of this show. You know, you 1127 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 2: guys are really taking over in a in a category 1128 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 2: that we really needed. We needed, we needed all this 1129 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 2: talk and all this laughter and all this appreciation of 1130 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 2: great R and B Culture and Music. 1131 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, bro, I couldn't have closed it out better. 1132 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: My name is Tank and this is the R and 1133 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: B Money Podcast, the authority on all things R and B. 1134 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 3: I don't I don't even know what to say. Man, 1135 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 3: my brother, man, you know I love you. 1136 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 2: I taught so much with you as an artist and 1137 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 2: a human being in it. And h and Jay you know, 1138 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,959 Speaker 2: you know I've always loved you, and we've been around 1139 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 2: each other for so long in this business. 1140 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 3: But you guys are doing great. 1141 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm so excited part of it. God bless you. 1142 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 3: Listen, big ladies and gentlemen, R and B Money. 1143 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 5: R and B Money is a production of the Black 1144 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 5: Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 1145 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 1146 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 5: favorite shows. Don't forget to subscribe to and rate our show, 1147 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 5: and you can connect with us on social media at 1148 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 5: Jay Valentine and at the Real Tank. For the extended episode, 1149 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 5: subscribe to YouTube dot com, forward Slash, R and B Money. 1150 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah,