Speaker 1: Ten. What time is it where you are right now?
Speaker 2: It is six thirty eight am, So it's actually not
Speaker 2: that bad. I've got two young kids, so this is really.
Speaker 1: The funniest time of day.
Speaker 2: Famously. Yeah, yeah, all the comedy shows on.
Speaker 1: That's right. It's usually when improv troops meet. They you know,
Speaker 1: wake up at four am, do their ice bath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and then come together and just start unleashing hilarity.
Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned that not to get on one
Speaker 3: too early.
Speaker 2: But I was in the shower and I was like,
Speaker 2: rich people misunderstand what a shower is. A shower is
Speaker 2: like for you know, working class people to get warm
Speaker 2: yish people like you go take a cold plunge and
Speaker 2: a cold shower, do an ice cold chap. Fuck you, dude,
Speaker 2: We're like we live in ship houses that are cold
Speaker 2: and damp. The shower is like the one time in
Speaker 2: the morning where you can just heat your body out.
Speaker 3: Take that a wife from us.
Speaker 1: You have the shower is my time to return to
Speaker 1: the womb, and yeah, leave it.
Speaker 4: Jackson there Like mama.
Speaker 1: I do have a nice jug of milk.
Speaker 4: You have like a little hamster water.
Speaker 1: Bottle and just drink out of it.
Speaker 3: Gurbil style shower, orange jacket, jack the shower milk, just
Speaker 3: a nice warm shower milk.
Speaker 4: See, white people do have culture.
Speaker 3: Don't touch your legs and drink that milk in the shower.
Speaker 1: I keep when I'm showering, I keep my hands above
Speaker 1: my shoulders. Wash my legs. You don't want to get canceled, eggs.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get canceled. Touch my body below
Speaker 1: the shoulders is a cancer.
Speaker 3: Hands.
Speaker 1: You're just in the bathroom mirror hands, ro hands.
Speaker 4: It's got walking around like you can't even scrub anymore,
Speaker 4: and we're like, yes you can.
Speaker 3: You really should, actually should.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three eighty nine,
Speaker 1: episode four of dared eieyst. It's a production of iHeartRadio,
Speaker 1: and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, May twenty second,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the third day in a row where
Speaker 1: you can do the date forward and backwards. A date
Speaker 1: palindrome five two two two five works both both ways.
Speaker 1: Just a just a fun.
Speaker 4: Fact bisexual date.
Speaker 1: It's a bisexual date exactly. My name is Jack O'Brien
Speaker 1: aka we got a white Dan Jenna Pide, Damn the
Speaker 1: ball that one, Curtis Yeah, Christy Almagucci, Man, I think
Speaker 1: we just go with this. I think we just actually
Speaker 1: they keep claiming that that's what's happening, so we just
Speaker 1: got to do it.
Speaker 4: Are you trying to manifest a white genocide?
Speaker 1: It would really be helpful. We need something to complain about.
Speaker 1: Play it really be a solid we were having to
Speaker 1: make them up. I'm thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 1: second co host seat, filling in for Miles by a
Speaker 1: hilarious stand up comedian, writer actor want to be British
Speaker 1: gangster improviser. You can catch her in Dallas on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Check the footnotes to buy tickets, and you must if
Speaker 1: you're in the Dallas area. You gotta go skip your
Speaker 1: trip to Dealey Plaza and just go see Paulavia.
Speaker 4: Get off the grassy knoll, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Get up off that grassy knoll. Please welcome POLIVI Ganal and.
Speaker 4: It's me. I'm back again, back again.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here and I'm happy to assist
Speaker 4: with white genocide in whatever way you think I should.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing your part.
Speaker 4: I'm doing it for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, paulve. We are thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat by one of our favorite guests, coming
Speaker 1: from six twenty three, six forty three tomorrow morning. He
Speaker 1: co hosts the podcast The Worst Idea of All Time
Speaker 1: with Guy Montgomery, a very funny stand up comedian, TV writer,
Speaker 1: producer host. Welcome back to the show, the hilarious.
Speaker 3: Tim bad Kyota from the future. Hello everybody, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 3: how is it to be the water?
Speaker 1: Warm?
Speaker 2: Water is too warm to the scientists of a correct
Speaker 2: oleashalves are gone and the warm is a rusty, thirsty Nah.
Speaker 1: Can't trust those guys. Yeah, I guess that's a good point.
Speaker 1: We're all going to be back to the womb for
Speaker 1: a very brief period before.
Speaker 4: Man like lukewarm in the ocean.
Speaker 2: I would hope that you would give a tiny bit
Speaker 2: of context Jack for bringing up the womb out of
Speaker 2: absolutely nowhere, because we were talking about that off the record,
Speaker 2: right we were.
Speaker 1: But that might have made it into the cold open,
Speaker 1: a very well balmy cold open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll never either doubt you again.
Speaker 4: Also, to be fair, Jack brings up the womb like
Speaker 4: every epid. He's always yearns for the womb.
Speaker 1: You talking about the womb again? Yeah, it's like, please stop.
Speaker 3: I just want to get up explore it. It's like
Speaker 3: this a Freudian episode, down to what makes Jack tick?
Speaker 1: Jack tick? What's going on? Tim? How? How is everything
Speaker 1: in New Zealand these days? Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 2: I would describe it as we've got we've got Oh, actually,
Speaker 2: do you know what's happening today is this is kind
Speaker 2: of nerd politics stuff.
Speaker 3: But our government is releasing the budget.
Speaker 2: It hasn't happened yet, it will be in a few
Speaker 2: hours from now, and all indications is that it's going
Speaker 2: to be the grimmest ship ever. Our flavor of our
Speaker 2: flavor of grimmer is like British flavor rather than American flavor.
Speaker 2: So it'll be an austerity budget, but no one's allowed
Speaker 2: to say the word austerity. So they basically they fired
Speaker 2: like half the public sector since they came in half
Speaker 2: the government worker.
Speaker 4: I thought Land was doing better than us.
Speaker 3: We I mean, we are, but that's that's a pretty
Speaker 3: low bar.
Speaker 1: From what I'm actually did notice the bar as they
Speaker 1: were clearing it. They didn't see it down walked right
Speaker 1: over there. I watch out, there's a little bump up, like, hey.
Speaker 4: Be careful, you might get you can might get taken
Speaker 4: off the street, and they're like, we're.
Speaker 3: Fine, we're trying to catch up. It feels like at
Speaker 3: the moment American they're getting ideas from you guys. They're
Speaker 3: basically our you know, health is one of the biggest
Speaker 3: problems here.
Speaker 2: They're underfunding it to the point where they're trying to
Speaker 2: float a whole bunch of privatization because previously we've had
Speaker 2: a pretty good ninety percent solely public healthcare system that's
Speaker 2: that's done pretty well. But they're like, you know, it
Speaker 2: would be the funny thing to do taking all the
Speaker 2: money out of there and letting our mates run it
Speaker 2: all as a business. That would be pretty crack up.
Speaker 2: So that's what we got.
Speaker 4: This is like when Hitler figured out how to do
Speaker 4: genocide from what we did to indigenous people in North America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone reading off everyone's reading off your homework book.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, at the moment America, it's just.
Speaker 4: A bunch of swasakas on our path that.
Speaker 1: Does this look Does this still look like a swastika
Speaker 1: when I like draw it turn it into a heart?
Speaker 1: Kind of?
Speaker 4: Is that Okay, it's like the ass from middle school,
Speaker 4: but in a Swaska.
Speaker 2: For Yeah, I saw an Instagram reel where gave like
Speaker 2: a step by step on how turned that into a
Speaker 2: think a Pride flag or like a Transali flag or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 3: So that's what you got to do out there. You've
Speaker 3: got to go find that real and turn it into
Speaker 3: real life.
Speaker 1: We're all good enough. The water is going to be
Speaker 1: balmy as we all die from climate change.
Speaker 2: I do want to say that I'm sick of I'm
Speaker 2: sick of nothing but talk. Look also what's on at
Speaker 2: the moment in New Zealand the New Zealand International Comedy Festival.
Speaker 2: It's been amazing. I've been to not enough shows because
Speaker 2: I've got a three year old and a one year old.
Speaker 2: And actually we just got COVID.
Speaker 4: No like we got COVID.
Speaker 1: The novel Coronavirus is once again novel.
Speaker 2: Absolutely had it for a while. It feels like a
Speaker 2: real throwback yesteryear. It didn't have me too. I got
Speaker 2: pretty fucked up for like a day and a half.
Speaker 2: But my wife's been really knocked back, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, just a reminder that they're still
Speaker 2: knocking around. I was attemting to.
Speaker 3: Do good news, good news, good nineteen still here.
Speaker 1: Everyone's right, remember those good ideas? The global lockdown? Are
Speaker 1: you a bad movie connoisseur like a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have you have you seen anything good? Because obviously you're
Speaker 1: amazing podcast The Worst Idea of All Time, in which
Speaker 1: you and guy watch Grown Ups two repeatedly? What are you?
Speaker 1: Have you seen anything lately that seems challenge worthy?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything lately.
Speaker 2: We're taking a little bit of a break from the
Speaker 2: sort of relentless bad movie podcast format. We're doing a
Speaker 2: thing called good Times on the Worst Idea of All
Speaker 2: Time Nice, where it's a it is now right now,
Speaker 2: it's a hang and we're getting our comedian mates to
Speaker 2: come on, and we're we're trying to spread some good
Speaker 2: vibes at the moment Nice.
Speaker 3: So people are looking for a respite for me.
Speaker 2: Everything it's a you know, it's a no politics zone
Speaker 2: except for like we did do a season called Kellionaire
Speaker 2: where we plotted how to murder elon mask and some others.
Speaker 3: Wow, but I would call that a political.
Speaker 1: That's just letting us some steam. I feel it was cool.
Speaker 3: It was it was with a real evolution because the
Speaker 3: starter is basically just like a rift story over months,
Speaker 3: and then we turned it into a game show and
Speaker 3: got the listeners to come on and pitch us their
Speaker 3: ideas shark tank style on how they would first of.
Speaker 2: All, get a billion with our moral code on the
Speaker 2: show is billionaires they exist. Okay, I guess we're going
Speaker 2: to get thrown in prison if we say you can
Speaker 2: kill them, but trillionaires don't exist yet, so we can
Speaker 2: say trillionaires aren't allowed to exist. Therefore, we need to
Speaker 2: get a couple of billionaires to the trillion dollar mark
Speaker 2: and then murder that and then spread the wealth. So
Speaker 2: we were accepting pictures on how you get a billionaire
Speaker 2: to a trillion and then how you would end them
Speaker 2: being around.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to talk about those guys, which
Speaker 1: is exciting also.
Speaker 4: COVID, I'm sorry, Ice is at my door right now.
Speaker 1: Of course, Pilby is the only one who gets an
Speaker 1: All right, Tim, We're going to get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going
Speaker 1: to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're
Speaker 1: talking about. A fun one up top, there's a store
Speaker 1: that is offering you the experience of either you could say,
Speaker 1: like Christmas morning, or stealing from people's porches without all
Speaker 1: the risk, which is.
Speaker 4: Some people's Christmas Morning exactly.
Speaker 1: It kind of it's an enormously attractive proposition. But basically
Speaker 1: they have a big sort of like ballpit of returned
Speaker 1: random Amazon packages, unopened, and then you get to like
Speaker 1: choose one. We'll talk about it. But it's both seems
Speaker 1: like the end of the world and also I'm like,
Speaker 1: I want to do that, Like I could see that
Speaker 1: catching on. That's pretty fun. What the great uncanceling has begun.
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, he got the Award for Excellence in Film
Speaker 1: and Television by the Better World Fund. Better at a.
Speaker 3: Galling come just gonna do a little giggling this Better World.
Speaker 1: And then there's also a writer of Last Man Standing
Speaker 1: who kind of got uncanceled by the Writers Guild after
Speaker 1: doing some awful shit. We'll talk about Trump quietly killing
Speaker 1: the COVID booster for most Americans, and we'll talk about both.
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Is his favorite book series,
Speaker 1: this sci fi future book series called the Culture Series.
Speaker 1: It's like ten ten books. Ian m banks and it
Speaker 1: is like full blown socialist propaganda, and somehow they've missed
Speaker 1: the point of it or misinterpreted. So we'll talk about
Speaker 1: all of that plenty more. But first tim we do
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 4: It's not Better World Fund.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you want my second most recent sion, I'm
Speaker 2: just on their LinkedIn now. It was a few days ago.
Speaker 2: I had to google how to change water level on toilet, which.
Speaker 3: Is an interesting thing to open up for a couple
Speaker 3: of reasons.
Speaker 2: Number one, because I don't know how to do any
Speaker 2: di y round the house stuff, so this is this
Speaker 2: is a brand new area. I've never never tried my
Speaker 2: hand in any form of plumbing before.
Speaker 1: To just always assume toilets had like a natural water level.
Speaker 3: Something.
Speaker 4: You also haven't played Mario ever, because that ever.
Speaker 3: I have played Mario.
Speaker 2: That was highly instructive when I was learning how to
Speaker 2: drive a car, and I have found out.
Speaker 1: To mis committede vehicular man's letter multiple times.
Speaker 3: I can't leave the house without two bananas and one tour.
Speaker 2: But there's a whole bunch of stuff inside of the system.
Speaker 3: And that determines the water level. But in America, you guys,
Speaker 3: I think kind of universally around the whole country. From
Speaker 3: what I've seen, I've been around both coasts. I think
Speaker 3: I've been to Portland, Oregon a few times. I've been
Speaker 3: to Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's better than I can do.
Speaker 2: The water level and your toilets is so high everywhere,
Speaker 2: it's like right up to it.
Speaker 4: Well is yours super low? Like American We're like, we
Speaker 4: have the most ship water in the world.
Speaker 1: You want it.
Speaker 3: There's like a greened yost nature to your water levels.
Speaker 1: To go into an ostentatious amount of water exactly.
Speaker 4: Everything's bigger in the US, including our ships.
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't get you don't get the kind
Speaker 2: of splashback risk factor that we get in my native
Speaker 2: country of New Zealand, because there is a distance that
Speaker 2: that pooh is diving from.
Speaker 1: You need that toilet brush when you're to love the
Speaker 1: tone too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you using the toilet brush for?
Speaker 1: To clean clean the toilet, to clean the to.
Speaker 2: So you were getting pool off your butt or something.
Speaker 1: In in foreign toilets, you definitely need the pooh brush
Speaker 1: a little bit more than you do in American ones
Speaker 1: where everything's gone directly into a pool of water. And
Speaker 1: for yourself, Jack, incredibly bad aim or really good. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I hadn't really thought about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It was also off the back of so
Speaker 2: I've kind of built a podcast studio at my house.
Speaker 2: I converted We've got a three car garage and I
Speaker 2: converted that into a podcast studio and it's got its
Speaker 2: own toilet, and it's that one that got wrecked.
Speaker 3: And I don't know for sure who wrecked the toilet,
Speaker 3: but there was an incident.
Speaker 2: And honestly, okay, it's a very it's a short list
Speaker 2: of people who were recording that day.
Speaker 4: So I thought all white guys just had a podcast
Speaker 4: studio in their homes.
Speaker 2: The government programs out, but I got there before the
Speaker 2: government was paying for those.
Speaker 1: We all get a Better World Fund award and we
Speaker 1: are given a podcast studio in our homes just to
Speaker 1: make sure that everybody can hear what we have to say.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, the Better World first of all
Speaker 2: their website Better World dot fund red flag to me
Speaker 2: and I'm on there, I'm on the LinkedIn. This whole
Speaker 2: thing looks very sus I'm seeing like the logo was
Speaker 2: giving fiver and there's a lot of AI looking videos
Speaker 2: to me. There's one shot of Leonardo DiCaprio on their
Speaker 2: website on the homepage, which I think they're doing to
Speaker 2: sort of launder their reputation, but may in fact behaving
Speaker 2: the opposite effect.
Speaker 4: Wait, that also tracks. Yeah, that also tracks with the
Speaker 4: type of people who enjoy people who dat young people.
Speaker 1: I think Kevin's been a little twenty five year olds twenty.
Speaker 4: Five year olds technically are young people.
Speaker 3: Although twenty five is too old. It's twenty four. Is
Speaker 3: that that's the last year you're allowed to be in LEO?
Speaker 1: Twenty five is when you get your Golden Watching retirement party.
Speaker 4: He shoots you, he takes you up.
Speaker 1: Jesus, what is tim Something you think is overrated.
Speaker 2: Something that I think is overright. Okay, So I'm a
Speaker 2: big geek, like I love technology, and I got to
Speaker 2: tell the people from my take Ivory tower, where I
Speaker 2: get a very good view of everything.
Speaker 3: You've got to stop buying flagship phones. This is so
Speaker 3: expensive and so unnecessary, Like ninety nine point nine percent
Speaker 3: of the population should be buying cheaper phones than what
Speaker 3: they're getting. And this applies for like laptops and tablets
Speaker 3: as well. We've sort of in a bunch of different devices,
Speaker 3: we've reached peak thing.
Speaker 2: We've reached peak phone like years ago, peak laptop years ago.
Speaker 2: So you can either pay three thousand dollars to get
Speaker 2: the best laptop on the market, or literally pay half
Speaker 2: that amount to get like ninety five percent of that laptop.
Speaker 2: And it's the same with phones. All the cameras. Now,
Speaker 2: as long as you're paying like above, sort of four
Speaker 2: hundred dollars US for a phone, now you're going to
Speaker 2: be getting like the camera will be pretty fucking similar
Speaker 2: to the one that you're paying twelve hundred dollars for.
Speaker 4: You think I want ninety five percent water in my toilet?
Speaker 4: Do you think I'm gonna have a ninety five percent
Speaker 4: is good phone? I'm American, Okay, I want a phone
Speaker 4: big enough to defend me from the mass shootings? All right?
Speaker 3: What about this? What about that?
Speaker 2: Save money by not buying two flagship phone, by buying
Speaker 2: one flagship phone, by two mid ray phones. You can
Speaker 2: put one in each breast pocket and then no matter
Speaker 2: which way the shoot comes from, you protect it.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good reasonable, but like having a disposable phone
Speaker 1: that you just need one.
Speaker 4: Now we need one to get back into the US.
Speaker 1: So when you're talking flagship, is that like iPhones and
Speaker 1: like Apple products essentially top of the line stuff.
Speaker 3: Just don't get the like no one really should be
Speaker 3: getting the top of the line stuff. And it's where
Speaker 3: all the companies make all their money because the staff
Speaker 3: below that, the profit margins are a lot lower.
Speaker 4: They're so expensive. But also like they require such like
Speaker 4: geekree to like know the difference between like what you're
Speaker 4: missing and what you like want for what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Fucking it's a status symbol. It's like pure status symbol.
Speaker 2: So please invest a little bit of time in going
Speaker 2: to therapy and sorting yourself out rather than getting fifteen
Speaker 2: dollars phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's you dad here?
Speaker 4: Now what what a what phone do you have?
Speaker 3: I'd ask you not to out me like that, please.
Speaker 4: Wow, I thought you were going to give me some
Speaker 4: insight into like nude.
Speaker 3: I'm a big nude and I got a really good
Speaker 3: deal on it. So I got one of those phones
Speaker 3: that folds.
Speaker 1: Oh I love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty extra, and I have just made myself
Speaker 3: a pretty big hypocrite, but I'd be I'd be super
Speaker 3: happy with Like, for example, if you're an Android person,
Speaker 3: there's like the same song.
Speaker 1: A really I feel great?
Speaker 3: Yeah great, it's cheap. Great.
Speaker 4: Would you if you were a person who wanted a
Speaker 4: non flagship phone, would you be alienating yourself in a
Speaker 4: group chat? Would that be an Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the deal with I need? Because I've always
Speaker 2: been an Android dude? Sorry, because I'm a I'm a nerd,
Speaker 2: So what's the deal?
Speaker 3: Didn't they fix that? Didn't they fix that?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: If you're if you're the if you don't know about
Speaker 4: the green bubble, you are the green bubble? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know, But didn't they fix it?
Speaker 1: Didn't they get like probably a way to get around it.
Speaker 3: They got them talking to each other.
Speaker 4: Now maybe I don't know if I still enjoy that discrimination,
Speaker 4: you know, I think that's.
Speaker 1: For that's like a flex by Apple to make sure
Speaker 1: that you don't.
Speaker 2: The only people in my life who pay me out
Speaker 2: for having an Android phone?
Speaker 3: Am I like? Very good comedian gay friends.
Speaker 1: So that's me and we're friends.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no.
Speaker 3: Too deep?
Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated? Tim?
Speaker 2: I heard something for this by one change because it's
Speaker 2: two gram So I'm gonna say underrated. Hot showers so
Speaker 2: good in the womb. It's it's there's a few luxuries
Speaker 2: in life that you can you can pretty much afford
Speaker 2: any you know, situation as long as you've got a
Speaker 2: roof over your head, and a shower is one of them.
Speaker 2: Where it's just like pretty much anyone can get access
Speaker 2: to a hot shower.
Speaker 3: And I just rate it so highly. It's the bad.
Speaker 2: It's so nice. You wake up, You're like fuck being
Speaker 2: awake right now.
Speaker 3: That sucks. That's the worst I have to go and
Speaker 3: do a day. I guess I have to fucking go
Speaker 3: to work now and listen to some idiot. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do before then.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna completely shut myself off from the rest of
Speaker 2: the world, so I will see and hear nothing and
Speaker 2: be in my own tiny little steam box between five
Speaker 2: and fifteen minutes, depending on how my depression is going
Speaker 2: that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a hard time getting out of that shower,
Speaker 1: I really and I take please, I will wake up
Speaker 1: early to just take a longer shower. It's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just so nice.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's bad for power and for water and everything,
Speaker 2: but like we've got to have a couple of things
Speaker 2: left over, right, can we.
Speaker 1: Gotta have it? We have showers?
Speaker 3: Is that okay?
Speaker 1: I think we should all agree on the one thing,
Speaker 1: and I do think a hut hours at the top
Speaker 1: of the list.
Speaker 4: Also, after after learning about your toilet water deficiency, I'm like,
Speaker 4: is it a trickle over there with your shower? Are
Speaker 4: you just like a few drops? Thank God?
Speaker 2: The amount of shia hases I've lived in, or as
Speaker 2: we call them, flats with terrible water pressure where it is,
Speaker 2: it's like getting into a room where an old man
Speaker 2: is dribbling on you for seven minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, having good water pressure is a fucking revelation. It
Speaker 3: is changing.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I take showers, like in the middle of the
Speaker 4: day or like mostly like at night, I'll take a
Speaker 4: shower because I have like restless leg and so like
Speaker 4: there will be some day nights where I cannot fall
Speaker 4: asleep and I'll just like do the hot shower and
Speaker 4: it's very soothing for my legs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there more RESTful at night.
Speaker 4: You're more RESTful. I'm like, calm down.
Speaker 3: These seems legitimately like kind of debilitating, really annoying, super.
Speaker 4: Restless leg Yeah. Yeah, that coupled with my sleep apnea
Speaker 4: and severe mental illness. Listen going on, I'm unemployed.
Speaker 1: Triple threat. I believe that's what we call a triple threat.
Speaker 3: Unemployed or led, you know, layered.
Speaker 4: I'm in. I contain multitudes and they're all they all
Speaker 4: have zero in their bank account.
Speaker 3: Dang it, they're all covered by the icy.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and I do just want
Speaker 1: to say that you had sent her out along your
Speaker 1: overrated underrated. Not all guests do this, but they really thoughtful, conscientious,
Speaker 1: courteous ones will send along like, hey, here's what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about talking about in case, like somebody did it yesterday,
Speaker 1: and so Tim sent along his and so we we
Speaker 1: know you're underrated. Was before hot showers, and it was
Speaker 1: that climate change is still happening. And you included a
Speaker 1: link to an article that fucked my whole morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's fine. Was visited like every time I
Speaker 3: come to the show, I complained about late stage capitalism
Speaker 3: and the fact that the world's fucking burning down. So
Speaker 3: maybe I'll take a different tech. But yeah, no, it's
Speaker 3: a devastating article.
Speaker 2: Basically a bunch of climate scientists is saying, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: you know how we're definitely not going to reach the
Speaker 2: was it keeping it on one point five degrees? Well,
Speaker 2: even if we did, I think we're maybe at one
Speaker 2: point five now. So they're saying like if somehow some
Speaker 2: miracle happened and just we stayed at where we are
Speaker 2: right now, which we definitely are not going to.
Speaker 1: Now we agreed, Hey, just f yi, and we're not
Speaker 1: signing any like binding kind thing, but just f yi,
Speaker 1: we're going to start at one point five. All right,
Speaker 1: everyone agrees to this and.
Speaker 3: Then do the absolute best and what we're going.
Speaker 4: Climate change with the same way that like Sandra Bullock's
Speaker 4: character had to get through blindfold. I'm not looking at
Speaker 4: it directly or I might die if we don't look
Speaker 4: at it.
Speaker 1: It's fine, right, we could just stand named the Blindfold.
Speaker 1: It should have been called blindfoldin fault. That is true.
Speaker 2: I would have seen it if it was called blindfold.
Speaker 2: I have a better idea about what it's about. But
Speaker 2: I mean this is this is the global editor. Okay,
Speaker 2: So we all agreed we try our very absolute business
Speaker 2: for one point five We're currently at one point two
Speaker 2: and we're on Trenck to get to two point nine.
Speaker 1: Two point nine is bad.
Speaker 3: It's so so bad.
Speaker 2: What the climate scientist was saying in this most recent report,
Speaker 2: which was like a meta analysis of a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of scientific studies across a few different related fields, is
Speaker 2: that even if we got to the one point five,
Speaker 2: which we won't, as shit's still gonna get exceptionally ranked.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's the it's the old the very first consequence
Speaker 1: of climate change that I learned about via Kevin Costner's
Speaker 1: Water World, the rising sea levels. They're like the the
Speaker 1: melting ice caps and like Greenland and all the Antarctic
Speaker 1: ice sheets that is like accelerating faster than a lot
Speaker 1: of the more pessimistic models head and like we're going
Speaker 1: like we're going to lose huge chunks of land. There's
Speaker 1: going to be a mass migration event over the next
Speaker 1: hundred years, just inevitably, because we're already like past the
Speaker 1: point of like not losing that, like the sea is
Speaker 1: going to be going up by There was one that
Speaker 1: was like if we get to two point nine and
Speaker 1: like everything melts, the water sea levels would go up
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirteen feet. That's that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of that beast cities at the coast.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's kind of how we built them.
Speaker 4: I think this is why they kept calling us coastal elites.
Speaker 4: They're just trying to wash us out of there. They're
Speaker 4: just floods.
Speaker 1: People live less than one meter above sea level, and
Speaker 1: we're we're talking many many meters rise in sea level,
Speaker 1: so we're.
Speaker 4: All going to be in a Jack and Rose situation imminently,
Speaker 4: or like.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to do the atmosphere engineering where
Speaker 3: they punch a whole bunch of like heavy meadows into
Speaker 3: the atmosphere to block the sun.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, we're going to sea from what I understand, yes, probably, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I was talking to like civil engineers at
Speaker 4: one of my dad's conferences, and they're like talking about
Speaker 4: building man made islands. But I'm like, that's for rich people, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's are also the islands in space?
Speaker 4: Where are the unhoused people going to be on these
Speaker 4: man made of asking?
Speaker 3: That question is no, that's just.
Speaker 4: Water world, like the water gang. Can we call dips
Speaker 4: on that now?
Speaker 1: Like it this article? I was it's just everything's going
Speaker 1: to be shrinking with the same number or more people.
Speaker 1: Excuse everything everything shrinking. Everything shrinking, So in some ways
Speaker 1: another silver lining, things that used to be considered small
Speaker 1: might look bigger. Second, it might be average.
Speaker 4: Now people should appreciate that.
Speaker 1: It's literally Fortnite, though, Isn't this what the game Fortnite
Speaker 1: is is like the game play area is like shrinking
Speaker 1: as people and people are just like killing each other
Speaker 1: to like you as the game progresses. I know that
Speaker 1: was the premise of like pubg Player Unknown Battleground, but like,
Speaker 1: I think that was also Fortnite that, like the whole
Speaker 1: play area shrinks slowly so it like gets harder to
Speaker 1: like hide.
Speaker 2: You mean diminishing resources and people getting wiped out so
Speaker 2: that people and the metal can and reach themselves.
Speaker 1: The children are training. I think the children are training, okay,
Speaker 1: for the.
Speaker 3: Futures and the and the best way possible with guns.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna pass out in like
Speaker 4: the first thirty minutes of this happening. I'm just going
Speaker 4: just leave me and be too tired to bat.
Speaker 3: Here's the here's the pitch.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to like work on but for years
Speaker 2: now we've been through crazy shit, Like even recently, I
Speaker 2: can't imagine what it must have been like to be
Speaker 2: around during World War two, you know, just like everyone
Speaker 2: is dying exactly all of the time, just like family
Speaker 2: members of yours just constantly sent off just so much death.
Speaker 2: And wil War one horrible, you know, like even Spanish
Speaker 2: influenza that week era.
Speaker 1: Like we're from depression to the dust ball to World
Speaker 1: War two. It's just like global catastrophe is just compiling.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we're we're doomed, Like if the Internet
Speaker 1: had been around back then.
Speaker 3: How I see this is not how I read that,
Speaker 3: because I think that kind of dumerism is going to
Speaker 3: get everyone's hands off the wheel. And the thing is
Speaker 3: with climate change is that like any fraction of a
Speaker 3: degree that we can avoid getting to is going to
Speaker 3: be super helpful for the planets. That everyone actually does
Speaker 3: need to engage with this and like really throw down.
Speaker 3: And I think, like, look, is shit going to be bad?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's going to be pretty fucking bad.
Speaker 2: But we've done really bad ship before, We've been through
Speaker 2: bad ship before, and we have we do have a
Speaker 2: far bigger toolkit than we've ever had, and it feels
Speaker 2: like we're a little bit getting better at dealing with
Speaker 2: crises like COVID nineteen was a crazy, crazy thing, a
Speaker 2: crazy time. A lot of people died, there's no doubt
Speaker 2: about that. But the ability for us to like whip
Speaker 2: up a vaccine in the speed that we did once
Speaker 2: we said our you know, resources to it.
Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive. And all of the there is a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of amazing shit happening with like solar technology
Speaker 3: and new battery technology that's coming out, like there is
Speaker 3: I think, you know, we've fucked ourselves on the timeline
Speaker 3: a little bit. We didn't act quite fast enough, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a lot of effects, but it's not
Speaker 3: going to be the case that everyone's dead. It's like
Speaker 3: sh It's going to change a lot. It's gonna get
Speaker 3: really hard, but we can never have to deal.
Speaker 4: With Okay, I believe that for you guys. But I
Speaker 4: will be dead.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're an island nation. We'll be underwater day.
Speaker 4: You you will be surviving and floating. I'm I'm giving it.
Speaker 4: I'm kidding. The human race should continue. I'm tired all right.
Speaker 1: We should talk about This is just a I don't know,
Speaker 1: like this is just like a snapshot of the dystopia
Speaker 1: we live in. This is this was going viral while
Speaker 1: a few weeks back, but it missed me. So there's
Speaker 1: a store in the Bronx Dollar universe where you can
Speaker 1: go and pay four dollars to pick a random Amazon
Speaker 1: package that was like originally ordered by someone and either
Speaker 1: returned or lost. But I think it's just all like
Speaker 1: when when you return an Amazon package and Amazon's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna fucking sell this, so they just like
Speaker 1: put it in a big warehouse where then people like
Speaker 1: bid on it. And so this store owner, industrious capitalist
Speaker 1: that he is, goes and just buys like huge palettes
Speaker 1: of these boxes, puts them in a pit of capitalist despair,
Speaker 1: and then people come through and just pick a unopened
Speaker 1: box and pay four dollars to get the experience of,
Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it, Christmas morning as
Speaker 1: an adult or being a porch pirate, but without the
Speaker 1: risk of like being shot or arrested.
Speaker 3: Four dollars a good price.
Speaker 1: It's a good price, Like he nailed a price point
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Like I would go, yeah, all of this is like
Speaker 2: some pieces of shit like get a Menion dog toy
Speaker 2: or something. But for four dollars, I'm willing to buy
Speaker 2: that lotto ticket, you know, yeah.
Speaker 4: Exactly because it could be like electronics, it could be
Speaker 4: like yeah.
Speaker 3: Flagship fun which if you know.
Speaker 4: But it's like great that He's like, honestly, if it
Speaker 4: gets rid of the waist and it helps like a
Speaker 4: small business owner, I think that was a great idea
Speaker 4: of him, even though it is very dystopian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean it's just I don't know that
Speaker 1: it gets rid of the wasst It just like moves
Speaker 1: the waste around. It probably was going to be it
Speaker 1: was probably going to be like disposed of, like incinerated
Speaker 1: in some awful way.
Speaker 4: You're right, but now it will be in like three years.
Speaker 1: So right.
Speaker 2: You'd have to think though, if if it's four dollars, right,
Speaker 2: so this person is building a business around each mystery
Speaker 2: out of being four dollars, it's I he's buying them
Speaker 2: for two on average, he's.
Speaker 1: Buying them for less than a less than two on average.
Speaker 1: He buys four hundred items for six hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Uh, wait, where is that? If I saw the math
Speaker 3: I could do it in my head.
Speaker 1: So four hundred items that's six hundred dollars is like,
Speaker 1: you know, less than two dollars half, Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: one and one and half one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's buck one fifty fifty item is buying this.
Speaker 1: You guys were both doing the math, Like, wait, let
Speaker 1: me check all of his math on this. She's only
Speaker 1: a former PhD. Double check this.
Speaker 2: How like that from Amazon's point of view, the men
Speaker 2: maxing that, you know, determining the most efficient way to
Speaker 2: get rid of stuff that has value is getting it
Speaker 2: out the door at a dollar.
Speaker 4: Storage buy them. But also like just I'm like afraid that,
Speaker 4: like now that Amazon knows about the popularity of this,
Speaker 4: they're going to do it and they're going to like
Speaker 4: ruin this man's business.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, they might sense to me like you
Speaker 3: should on TAMO would even you spin a wheel and
Speaker 3: it can give you a desk you just spent you
Speaker 3: just pipe food allays, spin a wheel on they send
Speaker 3: you a fucking package.
Speaker 1: Can you get the Amazon's probably going to, yeah, get
Speaker 1: get in on this where they're like, hey, well well
Speaker 1: we'll get the address on one of these things. If
Speaker 1: you yeah, well you guys are right on. First of all,
Speaker 1: it is it is interesting, like where are these coming from?
Speaker 1: The one that ABC, the local New York City ABC
Speaker 1: News affiliate, was able to try. They went, got one
Speaker 1: of the packages. It's still had This is a problem.
Speaker 1: It's still had. The person that dress send phone number
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 3: It's a huge problem.
Speaker 1: That's a bit of a problem. And he was like, what,
Speaker 1: I like, scratch it out in dark ink. I didn't
Speaker 1: think you'd be able to see it. But anyways, they
Speaker 1: reach out to the person and confirmed that it was
Speaker 1: a this yoga mat that they got four dollars. Not
Speaker 1: a bad price problem.
Speaker 3: It's Amazon's problem though, right They should be not selling
Speaker 3: palettes of people's.
Speaker 1: So that so this is progressing in exactly the direction
Speaker 1: you would expect. Walmart actually ensures its liquidators remove all
Speaker 1: information from the box. Amazon doesn't give a fun. They're
Speaker 1: doing everything like they're moving things as fast as.
Speaker 3: The Amazon is. Amazon has managed to become morally more
Speaker 3: deplorable than fucking Walmot. That is a crazy rice to
Speaker 3: the bottom.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so when Amazon was told that this was happening,
Speaker 1: they I think this fun experiment is going to come
Speaker 1: to an end soon. Because Amazon said it is investigating
Speaker 1: the matter, including adding the possibility that these products may
Speaker 1: have been delivered to customers addresses were stolen and are
Speaker 1: now being resold by unauthorized third parties. So they're basically
Speaker 1: saying to this shop owner, like what we'll call the
Speaker 1: cops on you.
Speaker 2: We can't have it be fine buying them from Amazon.
Speaker 2: He's buying them from a liquor stick this dude. But yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: and that like in a thing that is like fully
Speaker 2: your fault, that like you're not doing the bare minimum
Speaker 2: of prejective customers hot idea, Jeff, maybe leave Katy Perry
Speaker 2: at home, put the rest of them in the rocket,
Speaker 2: and with the money you saved from not bringing Katy
Speaker 2: Perry to you know, low Earth Orbit, you could scratch
Speaker 2: out people's details on the stickers before you sell the
Speaker 2: palette space.
Speaker 1: Katy Perry, do that in exchange for whatever Katy Perry
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 4: Maybe it'll distract her from trying to like destroy nuns
Speaker 4: in court.
Speaker 3: There's fascinating.
Speaker 4: There's a law called Perry's Law that gives like a
Speaker 4: seventy two hour hold for people over the age of
Speaker 4: like seventy five probably selling their properties. Yeah, because Katy
Speaker 4: Perry has multiple times fucked over old people who aren't
Speaker 4: including including nuns, one of whom like died in court
Speaker 4: or something, had a heart attack in court. Like she's
Speaker 4: like an evil person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in a very real way. I think in
Speaker 3: California that introduced basically a specific elder abuse law named
Speaker 3: it after Katy Perry because of this crazy record she's
Speaker 3: got of it, would say, allegedly tricking old people into
Speaker 3: selling their property for way lower the market value and
Speaker 3: basically hacktoring them and to signing it away really quickly.
Speaker 2: It's found out about this recently, but it's like this
Speaker 2: fucking woman.
Speaker 4: It's like a level of evil you can't even conceive
Speaker 4: because you're like, aren't you busy singing? Like why are you?
Speaker 4: Like why don't you buy a home that's available?
Speaker 1: Hell? The super Bowl halftime show though, Karen Russell brand
Speaker 1: I know what to do.
Speaker 4: At first? Have you seen the Katy Perry documentary?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 4: Okay? So she's like working super hard on tour and
Speaker 4: like performing and everything, and he's like being like weird,
Speaker 4: and then he tells her he wants a divorce, like
Speaker 4: while she's in her chair getting her makeup or whatever
Speaker 4: right before going on, and she's like silently weeping and
Speaker 4: then sucks it up and does her fucking show and
Speaker 4: wins you over. You're like, oh my god, Katy Perry.
Speaker 4: And now she's like kicking old people. It's so bad.
Speaker 1: She's just like the good one in that relationship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, being but also like I don't know, like.
Speaker 1: For a pope, being a good one in a relationship
Speaker 1: with Russell Brand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, would you rather.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And
Speaker 1: we're back, and the great uncanceling has begun. According to
Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, he's feeling some momentum after he was given
Speaker 1: the Award for Excellence in Film and Television by the
Speaker 1: Better World Fund at a gala in con feels feels
Speaker 1: all like a work of satire. This was again months
Speaker 1: after news dropped that he's facing yet another lawsuit for
Speaker 1: allegedly committing sexual abuse, and he was announced we are
Speaker 1: truly privileged to welcome Kevin Spacey as our guest of
Speaker 1: honor and honoree at the Better World Fund gala by
Speaker 1: the president and founder of the Better World Fund, and
Speaker 1: he told the crowd, it's very nice to be back.
Speaker 4: Ew e e e ew he.
Speaker 1: Was really like, it felt like he was like and
Speaker 1: finally like, I can put all of this behind me.
Speaker 1: I feel surrounded by so much affection and love. I've
Speaker 1: heard from so many of my friends and colleagues and
Speaker 1: co stars in the last week since this award was announced.
Speaker 1: It's very nice to be back. And then he went
Speaker 1: on an unhinged rant comparing his own career consequences stemming
Speaker 1: from multiple allegations of sexual assault to the Hollywood Blacklist
Speaker 1: during the red Scare. What do He also cited the
Speaker 1: case of sitcom writer Tim Doyle, who was censured by
Speaker 1: the Writer's Guild for posting a photo of a lynching
Speaker 1: in a writer's Facebook group during the strike. So somebody said,
Speaker 1: happy you do that. Someone said happy one hundredth day
Speaker 1: to all who observe as a comment to mark the
Speaker 1: one hundredth day of the WGA strike, and he was
Speaker 1: one of the first to comment, and his joke was,
Speaker 1: I just got my tree up with a black and
Speaker 1: white image featuring like a man hanging from a tree
Speaker 1: on what appears to be a lynching. And the writer
Speaker 1: director Keith Powell from thirty Rock, he plays two fur
Speaker 1: from thirty Rock was like one of the admins of
Speaker 1: the group, and he immediately was like this. He described
Speaker 1: his post as especially horrible, racist, self martyring, vile, clueless,
Speaker 1: out of touch, boneheaded, disturbing and toxic post, and he
Speaker 1: was censured. But I think the Writers Guild voted to
Speaker 1: reverse their center of him on the same day that
Speaker 1: that was actually something that Spacey said in his speech
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. The Writers Guilt in a vote with
Speaker 1: all their members reversed their center of Tim. And at
Speaker 1: the same time, Manuel invited me here to accept this award.
Speaker 1: So he's like, we're starting to many people.
Speaker 4: He's like pedophiles and racist. You didn't know I was one,
Speaker 4: but I am right.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if so? There was his name, Tim Doyle,
Speaker 3: this writer.
Speaker 1: Very funny, very funny joke by him.
Speaker 2: You've done fucked up, You've done fucked up so bad,
Speaker 2: and you've done everything you can to try and sort
Speaker 2: of put it behind you and get everyone to forget.
Speaker 3: And Kevin Spacey takes the stage in.
Speaker 4: Ceremonial I know, my brother, we did the same thing.
Speaker 3: No no, no no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 3: I don't want this one. I don't want defense from
Speaker 3: Kevin Spacey.
Speaker 1: No studio will touch him because of a joke he posted.
Speaker 1: Is how Kevin Spacey described it, of course, not explaining
Speaker 1: what the joke, what the joke like. Also, it's not
Speaker 1: a joke, like I don't It's just seems like he
Speaker 1: just had racism in his heart and was like, let
Speaker 1: me just like get this out here. I'm on the
Speaker 1: internet a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't even know where you sort of like get
Speaker 2: one of those pictures from you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not like a thing that that just sort of
Speaker 2: falls into your phone because someone posts it as a mame.
Speaker 4: He just had it saved on his phone. It's got
Speaker 4: like he's like, let me just go to my favorite album. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you guys seen the Morning Show on I think it's.
Speaker 1: Apple, Uh Jennifer Show. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So Steve Carrell plays like I think his portrayal
Speaker 4: of like a dude who got canceled for inappropriate workplace
Speaker 4: sal behavior. Yeah, like a Matt Lower type. It's like
Speaker 4: very good. And he meets someone who is like on
Speaker 4: his side and wants to do a documentary with him
Speaker 4: about like people who get canceled. Spoiler alert and and
Speaker 4: it's Martin Short, and Martin Short like describes even like
Speaker 4: further stuff that he's done with, like like pedophilia stuff,
Speaker 4: and then Steve Carrel is like because like Martin Short's like,
Speaker 4: we're like the same, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, not like that. No.
Speaker 3: I'm it's important for people to remember as well.
Speaker 2: And I think most people like, well remember this, but
Speaker 2: for my money, we should be talking about it all
Speaker 2: the time because of how goddamn and sane this was.
Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey got credibly accused of sexual abuse of a
Speaker 2: minor to the point where it got into the courts,
Speaker 2: and also sexually abusing other people, which I can't remember
Speaker 2: if they were miners not.
Speaker 3: I think they were.
Speaker 2: They were sort of above the legal age, but sexual
Speaker 2: like criminal act.
Speaker 3: He was accused of multiple times.
Speaker 2: Multiple people died while the cases were going through, and
Speaker 2: then like I think it was maybe during the COVID lockdowns,
Speaker 2: he released a video from his kitchen as as underwad
Speaker 2: let me be Frank, Let me be Frank.
Speaker 4: You didn't drink Christmas.
Speaker 3: The lady was camera and it was just like, what
Speaker 3: the fuck are you? What is this dude?
Speaker 1: Psych character? I haven't watched House of Cards, but that
Speaker 1: it's a character who like kills people all the time
Speaker 1: to get out of trouble.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Like the first season, the sort of character
Speaker 2: defining moment is that he pushes a journalist in front
Speaker 2: of the subway train who he's befriended, played.
Speaker 4: By one of the Maros sisters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is a spoiler. But I heard that
Speaker 1: show sucks shit. So actually no one's watching.
Speaker 4: Which which like I was kind of like I was
Speaker 4: talking to Jackies about this and we were like everyone
Speaker 4: stopped watching because of him, but like after he left,
Speaker 4: so we kind of like reinforced that we were watching
Speaker 4: because of him, even if that's not why, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like we kind of did it backwards.
Speaker 2: Well, they should have stopped making it, like they really
Speaker 2: needed to cut their losses, but Netflix were like one
Speaker 2: more season and put Robin Wright at the Helm, who
Speaker 2: rolled by all accounts unfortunately.
Speaker 1: You know, it is also one of those shows that historically,
Speaker 1: it like kicked off this streaming boom that now is
Speaker 1: destroying the entertainment industry and in Hollywood at least, so
Speaker 1: it's really holds kind of an uncomfortable position for.
Speaker 3: A bunch of reasons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know that multiple people died during the investigation, Like,
Speaker 4: that's great. How many people died?
Speaker 3: I don't know, top of mine, but I think it's
Speaker 3: it's like it's more than.
Speaker 1: Two that what that's like a lot? Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that anything, like if he's ever been credibly accused.
Speaker 1: I think just the fact that he then, like the
Speaker 1: character he chose to inhabit to address the public was
Speaker 1: a person who kills people, gets out of deals with
Speaker 1: scandals by murdering innocent people and witnesses.
Speaker 4: And he's also saying, let me be this person.
Speaker 1: Let me be Yeah, exactly, I do. It is a
Speaker 1: weird coincidence and at the very least him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, legally speaking, it is a weird incident.
Speaker 4: It's also like, isn't it like a mass shooting if
Speaker 4: it's like three or more people or something like or
Speaker 4: four people, it's like that, but with like out of
Speaker 4: a specific group of people for Kevin Spacey.
Speaker 1: Very strange. It's so crazy, very strange coincidence.
Speaker 2: But listen, I don't want to callt Kevin Spacey's legal
Speaker 2: team to this fine show.
Speaker 1: So they are big for we hear from them all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 4: How do we get Kevin Spacey to become a trillionaire?
Speaker 1: So maybe all he has to do is read this
Speaker 1: sci fi series, the culture series that is written by
Speaker 1: what's this guy's name, Ian M Banks, Scottish writer. It
Speaker 1: is hard sci fi where people you know, explore space.
Speaker 1: People describe it sounds a lot like a combination of
Speaker 1: like Star Wars and Star Trek. And I'm sure me
Speaker 1: just generally combining those two franchises in describing another franchise
Speaker 1: will not insight the anger of any sci fi fans.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be cool with me saying that.
Speaker 3: But people say it's like cymously chill people. Yes, the
Speaker 3: Hoti fans laid back dudes.
Speaker 1: But so this is apparently the favorite sci fi of
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk. You have to assume
Speaker 1: it has all sorts of like libertarian ideals built into it.
Speaker 1: It is in fact written by a card carring socialist
Speaker 1: who despised the super rich and once shredded his UK
Speaker 1: passport and mailed it to Tony Blair during the Iraq.
Speaker 4: That is amazing. Whoa this is how much they hate women?
Speaker 4: They're like fuck iin Rand, We'll take whatever this guy
Speaker 4: has exactly.
Speaker 1: You have your book series. You can just see that
Speaker 1: she thought you guys ruled. You could just read that
Speaker 1: thing about the you know, people who like trains or
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck I Ran series is. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like people who read it are like, yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: depicts a world where AI does exist, but it's used
Speaker 1: to better people's lives and like make it so that
Speaker 1: people have less like busy work to do, and the
Speaker 1: actual like archetypal super villain is a billionaire capitalist and
Speaker 1: there's no police or crime, and society essentially rules by
Speaker 1: cancel culture, like all these things that you would think
Speaker 1: they would be against, especially Elon Musk, who like names.
Speaker 1: Elon Musk has like named his spacecraft after like spacecraft
Speaker 1: in this book, Like he crazy open an avowed huge
Speaker 1: fan of this book, and it just seems to represent
Speaker 1: everything that he despises.
Speaker 3: This is an ongoing theme of billionaires reading sci fi letterature,
Speaker 3: which are supposed to be this sort of informative, artistic
Speaker 3: explorations of what happens if we take the idea of
Speaker 3: capitalism to its natural conclusion, and we're technology is eating
Speaker 3: and they go oh, yeah, cool idea. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: fucking not what we were trying to say in this book.
Speaker 3: What we were saying it was a bad thing. They're
Speaker 3: seeing the villains and like really identifying with them and going, oh,
Speaker 3: that would be a cool thing to do. They missed
Speaker 3: the point again and again. This is like not the
Speaker 3: first sci fi series where your elons and your bezosis
Speaker 3: have like glorified the worst elements of what are supposed
Speaker 3: to be cautionary tales. To the rest of us. They're dumb.
Speaker 4: God the sketch I probably brought up on here a
Speaker 4: thousand times, and I will continue going back to is
Speaker 4: Mitchell and Webbs are we the baddies? Because they will
Speaker 4: never reach the point where they're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: they never reached that point. They're just constantly like in
Speaker 4: their skull uniforms being like we're doing a good job.
Speaker 2: I get that's part of the pathology of being a billionaire.
Speaker 2: You don't get to be a billionaire if you have
Speaker 2: self awareness. If you possess self awareness, you don't get
Speaker 2: to trample on as many scales as you need to
Speaker 2: to accumulate that much wealth to yourself, Like it's just
Speaker 2: not possible.
Speaker 3: So what we're dealing with is like.
Speaker 2: A self selected group of people who are lacking like
Speaker 2: not just basic humanity and decency, but any kind of
Speaker 2: self awareness that the most of the rest of the
Speaker 2: population possess and walk around with and give us our
Speaker 2: little neuroses and that voice inside your heir going, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't maybe this, you know, maybe this will
Speaker 2: make this person feel bad, Maybe this will have negative
Speaker 2: effects for someone who isn't me. They're like demonstrably missing
Speaker 2: that component of their fucking brain to get to the
Speaker 2: billionaire status. That's why you've got to legislate against this stuff,
Speaker 2: because if you leave these guys to their own devices,
Speaker 2: this is what happens. You need infrastructure like the to
Speaker 2: just go, hey, guess what your first billion, go and
Speaker 2: make it.
Speaker 3: But you're not like, we will.
Speaker 2: Just take the rist after a billion and we'll build
Speaker 2: hospitals and rides with it.
Speaker 1: Something that billionaires I feel like like to say, is
Speaker 1: like the first million or the first billion is the
Speaker 1: hard part and then like from there. And I think
Speaker 1: that's really true, Like I think we're overrating how difficult
Speaker 1: it is to go from like being a one hundred
Speaker 1: millionaire to a billionaire. I think just a lot of
Speaker 1: people stop because they're like, well, I don't have anything
Speaker 1: compelling me to keep like compounding my money in a
Speaker 1: way that's just going to harm people. And so what
Speaker 1: we're left with is people like billionaires who are just
Speaker 1: the most pathologically narcissistic people out of a group of
Speaker 1: like five hundred, you know, one hundred millionaires, and they're
Speaker 1: like class of like super privileged, lucky people. And it's
Speaker 1: just this self selecting thing where it's like that you
Speaker 1: have to be broken in a very profound way to
Speaker 1: get to be a billionaire, and then we just do
Speaker 1: the whitewashing for them to be like and they're actually
Speaker 1: really smart and they're the smartest Okay.
Speaker 4: It sounds like you guys just aren't hustling and grinding
Speaker 4: one day that's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Me, okay, and not just broken in a way that's interesting,
Speaker 3: but broken in a way that is always deep for
Speaker 3: me to the rest of us.
Speaker 4: And yeah, but if they just were like I'm gonna
Speaker 4: learn I'm gonna pay yoyoma to teach me violin, we'd
Speaker 4: be like, sure, dude, whatever you know. But they're using
Speaker 4: it to like destroy the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, so the the culture. In the world
Speaker 1: of the culture, people are gender fluid, So anyone can
Speaker 1: change gender just by thinking about it. And most people,
Speaker 1: why don't they do once in their lives.
Speaker 3: Hey, elon, why don't you pay attention to that part
Speaker 3: of the book and maybe folk that into your personality.
Speaker 3: Then it's okay to express your gender however you want to. Instead,
Speaker 3: you're like honing out on the worst.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're yeah, they're blatantly morally incompatible with the
Speaker 1: existence of billionaires. That's like the person who wrote the books,
Speaker 1: he's now past, but he's like that there. It's just
Speaker 1: like a bunch of like hippie commie people with like
Speaker 1: amazing technology.
Speaker 2: You guys think now that this presents like a big
Speaker 2: problem for writers, writers and other artists who are creating
Speaker 2: what is supposed to be like instructional art about sort
Speaker 2: of class consciousness. And yeah, the way that we're structuring,
Speaker 2: you know, how we treat our wealthiest individuals. Because if
Speaker 2: I was a sci fi writer, now, this is the
Speaker 2: terrain that I would want to play in. But you're like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I might accidentally be writing an instruction manual for these
Speaker 2: psychos yeah, because they don't have amazing imaginations, but they
Speaker 2: can like go and find my ideas that I'm trying
Speaker 2: to put out there to be a cautionary tail, and go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we should do this. Do you actually think this might
Speaker 2: have like a shelling effect at the moment of people
Speaker 2: who want to write these books and exploring these ideas,
Speaker 2: but they're two, They're going to give these ideas to
Speaker 2: the billionaires.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe it'll just like get make people
Speaker 1: take a harder look because like one of the things,
Speaker 1: so this is from a box article is just written
Speaker 1: about these books and about like this fandom, and they
Speaker 1: this box article is saying, like in the end, the
Speaker 1: thing that always happens is the good guys develop a
Speaker 1: piece of technology and like use it in a clever
Speaker 1: way to like solve the problem. And so it ends
Speaker 1: up being sending the message that like more power or
Speaker 1: like better technology equals being right. And so in that way,
Speaker 1: like the theme of the book is the most important
Speaker 1: thing powerful people can do is use their power to
Speaker 1: make the world or to make like the better technology.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: And so you got to write some sci fi books
Speaker 2: about solidarity and unionizing.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, wait, Okay, this this is this brings me
Speaker 4: to Shazam? Is that the movie?
Speaker 1: That's the movie right with Zachary Levi?
Speaker 4: Yeah, who ironically is this crazy Trump supporting libertarians. But
Speaker 4: in Shazam spoiler alert, he like redistributes his powers and
Speaker 4: that's how they save the day. He like shares his
Speaker 4: powers with his other like brothers and sisters and they're
Speaker 4: able to save like there's no one hero at the
Speaker 4: end of it. And so that's why I always, I
Speaker 4: always like loved that movie for that reason at the end,
Speaker 4: because usually it's just like Spider Man just like thinking
Speaker 4: harder and wanting it more and then be finding the
Speaker 4: strength and it's like, no, dude, you need other people
Speaker 4: to help you. And that's like what the moral of
Speaker 4: that movie was. But Zach really I didn't.
Speaker 2: Really learn that plus this story going watch Shazam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like Batman is the one that makes
Speaker 1: sense for billionaires like Batman like them just like a
Speaker 1: I alone can fix it mentality and like I will
Speaker 1: instead of investing in fixing the structural issues deep.
Speaker 2: The Batman is the right example because I've got this
Speaker 2: sneaking suspicion I've not looked into this for everyone. But
Speaker 2: I think a lot of these guys wouldn't exist if
Speaker 2: they had a good relationship with their dad. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, respectfully, I'm thinking Joe Rogan Elon
Speaker 2: Musk's dad is a uniquely fucked up individual who.
Speaker 3: Relationship with d Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, like my suspicion is the vast bulk
Speaker 2: of these dudes that we're talking about if you look
Speaker 2: at that relationship with it. That's why I'm so like,
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta hug my boys all the time.
Speaker 2: You have two boys, two boys, and they're getting a
Speaker 2: lot of hugs.
Speaker 1: I got two boys, and I'm trying to maximize their
Speaker 1: earning potential.
Speaker 4: But I've abandoned them and I'm hoping they'll become famous
Speaker 4: very quickly.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of bills. Tim, Such a pleasure having
Speaker 1: you on the show. Where can you? People find you,
Speaker 1: follow you, hear you, all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the worst idea of all time is the
Speaker 3: podcast I did with Guy Montgomery, who is a real stitch.
Speaker 1: He's a friend, dude, He's so funny. One another one
Speaker 1: of our faves.
Speaker 3: That's the main thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about the movies that you guys
Speaker 1: have covered. So Season one was grown Ups two, Season
Speaker 1: two Sex in the City Too. Season three We Are
Speaker 1: Your Friends for Where are Your Friends? And actually, if
Speaker 1: you want little taste.
Speaker 2: Probably one of the things I'm most proud of that
Speaker 2: I've ever made is Guy and I so very briefly,
Speaker 2: fucking almost a decade ago. Now, YouTube was commissioning original
Speaker 2: content and they gave us, I think they gave the
Speaker 2: production team. I think this was like legally, I'm not
Speaker 2: allowed to say this, but whatever, they didn't. They didn't
Speaker 2: greenlight the series, so fuck it, like a quarter of
Speaker 2: a million dollars to make a pilot. And so Guy
Speaker 2: and I lived in a sewer in New York City
Speaker 2: and watched teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles over and over again
Speaker 2: to invent the concept called method film reviewing. That is
Speaker 2: on YouTube, So that's quite good if you want to
Speaker 2: check that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rehearsal before the rehearsal, that's.
Speaker 2: Pre COVID, So you can check that out on YouTube.
Speaker 2: If you look up voice idea of all Time pilot.
Speaker 2: If you just punched that in, that'll that'll make you
Speaker 2: giggle for twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: How is it down there? Pretty cool how it was.
Speaker 2: So it was such a like America kind of Hollywood
Speaker 2: even though we're in New York kind of thing, because
Speaker 2: they showed us a map of where we were and
Speaker 2: they were like, okay, and here's the hotel where you'll
Speaker 2: sleep at at night. When we stopped shooting, I was like,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? And they're like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: so we wrap up at about eleven crew packs down.
Speaker 2: You guys get some sleep there. I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: we're sleeping in the sewer if we say we're sleeping.
Speaker 3: So they had to get these huge fans to ventilate
Speaker 3: the ear so we wouldn't die down there because we
Speaker 3: were so like, we were committed, so we lived. Director
Speaker 3: respected the integrity, and I'm sure all the production crew
Speaker 3: were like these idiots.
Speaker 1: The production the emails between the production executives, you should like, Foyer,
Speaker 1: you should like those emails and then make a feature
Speaker 1: film about this experience.
Speaker 2: And I just want to shout out something while I'm
Speaker 2: on the show. Adam Curtis.
Speaker 3: I don't know if people are familiar with his work,
Speaker 3: but he is a papernormaliza share how the.
Speaker 2: Funk Yeah documentary maker. I guess you described him as
Speaker 2: like a sociologist. He's like an anthropologist in some ways.
Speaker 2: He's got a series that's about to come out, a
Speaker 2: new series called Shifty. His ship is incredible, hyper Normalization
Speaker 2: is like essential watching at the moment. The one that
Speaker 2: I still really rate, which I think is probably his
Speaker 2: best work in my opinion, is The Century of the Self,
Speaker 2: which is all about the rise of consumerism and how
Speaker 2: it happened. And it happened really specifically, and it was
Speaker 2: down to kind of one guy called Edward Burnet's and
Speaker 2: it explores how that happened. But he's got a new
Speaker 2: series that's coming out soon called Shifty, and I am
Speaker 2: fucking excited.
Speaker 1: Nice what's it? What is Shifty about? Do you know?
Speaker 3: It's about Britain.
Speaker 2: It's about extreme money and hyper individualism came together to
Speaker 2: become an unspoken alliance. So it sounds like it's about
Speaker 2: probably Thatcherism and yeah, how Britain lost its way and
Speaker 2: then leading up to Brexit and beyond.
Speaker 1: There's also a really good I'll save it from my
Speaker 1: thing thing I've been enjoying. But there's a there's a
Speaker 1: good Twitter that is future Adam Curtis b roll Oh Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something that he does. He just finds these incredible
Speaker 1: shots of just random things like it usually as documentaries
Speaker 1: are a series of like seemingly random things that it's
Speaker 1: like a collage of like moments from the thing that
Speaker 1: he's talking about, and so you're hearing these like really
Speaker 1: interesting kind of high theory ideas about like what's going
Speaker 1: wrong with society and then like there's just these incredible
Speaker 1: He just has an amazing ability to like find all
Speaker 1: this like b roll from that moment in time. His
Speaker 1: Russia one is really good also.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but apparently the way he makes them as Hay
Speaker 2: and a small team of research is that babyc locked
Speaker 2: themselves and the BABC archives for like three months and
Speaker 2: the sewers with birds of the feathers floating together.
Speaker 1: Great recommendation, Paula, Where can people find you? Is there
Speaker 1: workimedia you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: Find me and Dallas on Sunday, Dallas Dominic Club leaves
Speaker 4: by tickets. They tell your friends of by tickets.
Speaker 5: If you know someone that you met eight years ago
Speaker 5: one time in passing in the girl's bathroom and you
Speaker 5: added each other on Instagram and she her uncle lives
Speaker 5: in Dallas, please tell her uncle to come to my show.
Speaker 4: And I'm at Paul Ganalen everywhere p A L A
Speaker 4: B I g U and A L A N. Listen,
Speaker 4: this is for non black people. Sinners was really good
Speaker 4: and if you have a different opinion, you're wrong. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I watched it again on Saturday night and I got
Speaker 4: more out of it. It's just so entertaining. It's so entertaining,
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, I knew they were vampires, there's
Speaker 4: no surprise, blah blah blah. Then you're watching it wrong,
Speaker 4: like you're just you're you're not looking at it for
Speaker 4: the right things. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 4: Is beautiful. I love it. Might go see it again.
Speaker 4: Who knows?
Speaker 1: There you go. Great. So that's your work of media
Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if you've heard of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I know it's something that I am
Speaker 1: growing up Catholic. That's something I identify.
Speaker 4: Also, Buddy Guy, who is the person at the end
Speaker 4: of the movie who is a real jazz player or
Speaker 4: blues player, jazz blues player. He is on or and
Speaker 4: he's like touring more than I am. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: aren't you a million years old? How are you doing
Speaker 4: this physically? But I want to like see him now.
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is so cool.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah awesome. You can find me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien work a media I enjoy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: link off too. I don't think there's been many updates recently,
Speaker 1: but there's a bunch from the archive that are a
Speaker 1: good look at its future. Adam Curtis b roll on
Speaker 1: Twitter that just has some great moments. There's this one
Speaker 1: that is a food influencer like shooting a video and
Speaker 1: then you like see the person drop the camera from
Speaker 1: them and they just like go from this like smiley
Speaker 1: thing to just the most profound existential emptiness in like
Speaker 1: the blink of a high It's so wild. But they
Speaker 1: also have like Trump watching a local high school band
Speaker 1: of cheerleaders perform at mar A Lago and just they
Speaker 1: really nail it. It's it's like, yeah, these really are
Speaker 1: great moments that would be in an Adam Curtis is this.
Speaker 3: Take talk where are you? What platform? Is the song?
Speaker 1: It's on Twitter x the everything at Yeah excellent. It's
Speaker 1: actually only like twelve videos. I act really like a
Speaker 1: handful of them. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore ol Brian and on Blue Sky at
Speaker 1: jack Obi the Number one. We are on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist and on Blue Sky at daily Zeitgeist. Where
Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram you can go to
Speaker 1: the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,
Speaker 1: and there you will find the footnotes. Good notes is
Speaker 1: where we link off to the works of social media
Speaker 1: we've been enjoying. Where we will link off to tickets
Speaker 1: for apologies upcoming show, and yeah, the sources for the
Speaker 1: information for today's episode. We also link off to a
Speaker 1: song there that we think you might enjoy. Super producer
Speaker 1: Justin is there a song that you think the people
Speaker 1: might enjoy?
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a song called called Little Things by
Speaker 6: Still Woozy, And I'm telling you, if you want to
Speaker 6: put yourself in the mood for the unofficial start of
Speaker 6: summer this weekend, throw on this track during like a
Speaker 6: barbecue or when your pool side, and you won't regret it.
Speaker 6: The vocals are so smooth, the production quality is outstanding,
Speaker 6: and it's just such a vibe. So that song, again
Speaker 6: is little Things by Still woozy and you can find
Speaker 6: that song in the footnotes.
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