1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Ten. What time is it where you are right now? 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: It is six thirty eight am, So it's actually not 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: that bad. I've got two young kids, so this is really. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: The funniest time of day. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: Famously. Yeah, yeah, all the comedy shows on. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: That's right. It's usually when improv troops meet. They you know, 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: wake up at four am, do their ice bath. Yeah, 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: and then and then come together and just start unleashing hilarity. 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned that not to get on one 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: too early. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: But I was in the shower and I was like, 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: rich people misunderstand what a shower is. A shower is 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: like for you know, working class people to get warm 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: yish people like you go take a cold plunge and 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: a cold shower, do an ice cold chap. Fuck you, dude, 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: We're like we live in ship houses that are cold 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: and damp. The shower is like the one time in 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: the morning where you can just heat your body out. 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: Take that a wife from us. 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: You have the shower is my time to return to 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: the womb, and yeah, leave it. 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: Jackson there Like mama. 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: I do have a nice jug of milk. 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 4: You have like a little hamster water. 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Bottle and just drink out of it. 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: Gurbil style shower, orange jacket, jack the shower milk, just 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 3: a nice warm shower milk. 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: See, white people do have culture. 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: Don't touch your legs and drink that milk in the shower. 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: I keep when I'm showering, I keep my hands above 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: my shoulders. Wash my legs. You don't want to get canceled, eggs. 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to get canceled. Touch my body below 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: the shoulders is a cancer. 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: Hands. 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: You're just in the bathroom mirror hands, ro hands. 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: It's got walking around like you can't even scrub anymore, 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: and we're like, yes you can. 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: You really should, actually should. 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three eighty nine, 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: episode four of dared eieyst. It's a production of iHeartRadio, 41 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive 42 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, May twenty second, 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the third day in a row where 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: you can do the date forward and backwards. A date 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: palindrome five two two two five works both both ways. 46 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Just a just a fun. 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 4: Fact bisexual date. 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: It's a bisexual date exactly. My name is Jack O'Brien 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: aka we got a white Dan Jenna Pide, Damn the 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: ball that one, Curtis Yeah, Christy Almagucci, Man, I think 51 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: we just go with this. I think we just actually 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: they keep claiming that that's what's happening, so we just 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: got to do it. 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: Are you trying to manifest a white genocide? 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: It would really be helpful. We need something to complain about. 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: Play it really be a solid we were having to 57 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: make them up. I'm thrilled to be joined in our 58 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: second co host seat, filling in for Miles by a 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: hilarious stand up comedian, writer actor want to be British 60 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: gangster improviser. You can catch her in Dallas on Sunday. 61 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Check the footnotes to buy tickets, and you must if 62 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: you're in the Dallas area. You gotta go skip your 63 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: trip to Dealey Plaza and just go see Paulavia. 64 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: Get off the grassy knoll, Yeah. 65 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Get up off that grassy knoll. Please welcome POLIVI Ganal and. 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: It's me. I'm back again, back again. 67 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: Hey. 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here and I'm happy to assist 69 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: with white genocide in whatever way you think I should. 70 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing your part. 71 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm doing it for you. 72 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, paulve. We are thrilled to be joined in 73 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: our third seat by one of our favorite guests, coming 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: from six twenty three, six forty three tomorrow morning. He 75 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: co hosts the podcast The Worst Idea of All Time 76 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: with Guy Montgomery, a very funny stand up comedian, TV writer, 77 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: producer host. Welcome back to the show, the hilarious. 78 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: Tim bad Kyota from the future. Hello everybody, Hello, Hello, 79 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: how is it to be the water? 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Warm? 81 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Water is too warm to the scientists of a correct 82 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: oleashalves are gone and the warm is a rusty, thirsty Nah. 83 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: Can't trust those guys. Yeah, I guess that's a good point. 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: We're all going to be back to the womb for 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: a very brief period before. 86 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: Man like lukewarm in the ocean. 87 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: I would hope that you would give a tiny bit 88 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: of context Jack for bringing up the womb out of 89 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: absolutely nowhere, because we were talking about that off the record, 90 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: right we were. 91 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: But that might have made it into the cold open, 92 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: a very well balmy cold open. 93 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll never either doubt you again. 94 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: Also, to be fair, Jack brings up the womb like 95 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 4: every epid. He's always yearns for the womb. 96 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: You talking about the womb again? Yeah, it's like, please stop. 97 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: I just want to get up explore it. It's like 98 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: this a Freudian episode, down to what makes Jack tick? 99 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: Jack tick? What's going on? Tim? How? How is everything 100 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: in New Zealand these days? Oh? 101 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: Man, it's a mixed bag. 102 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: I would describe it as we've got we've got Oh, actually, 103 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: do you know what's happening today is this is kind 104 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: of nerd politics stuff. 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: But our government is releasing the budget. 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: It hasn't happened yet, it will be in a few 107 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: hours from now, and all indications is that it's going 108 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: to be the grimmest ship ever. Our flavor of our 109 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: flavor of grimmer is like British flavor rather than American flavor. 110 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: So it'll be an austerity budget, but no one's allowed 111 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: to say the word austerity. So they basically they fired 112 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: like half the public sector since they came in half 113 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: the government worker. 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: I thought Land was doing better than us. 115 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: We I mean, we are, but that's that's a pretty 116 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: low bar. 117 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: From what I'm actually did notice the bar as they 118 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: were clearing it. They didn't see it down walked right 119 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: over there. I watch out, there's a little bump up, like, hey. 120 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: Be careful, you might get you can might get taken 121 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: off the street, and they're like, we're. 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: Fine, we're trying to catch up. It feels like at 123 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: the moment American they're getting ideas from you guys. They're 124 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: basically our you know, health is one of the biggest 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: problems here. 126 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: They're underfunding it to the point where they're trying to 127 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: float a whole bunch of privatization because previously we've had 128 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: a pretty good ninety percent solely public healthcare system that's 129 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: that's done pretty well. But they're like, you know, it 130 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: would be the funny thing to do taking all the 131 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: money out of there and letting our mates run it 132 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: all as a business. That would be pretty crack up. 133 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: So that's what we got. 134 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: This is like when Hitler figured out how to do 135 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: genocide from what we did to indigenous people in North America. 136 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone reading off everyone's reading off your homework book. 137 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, at the moment America, it's just. 138 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: A bunch of swasakas on our path that. 139 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Does this look Does this still look like a swastika 140 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: when I like draw it turn it into a heart? 141 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Kind of? 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: Is that Okay, it's like the ass from middle school, 143 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: but in a Swaska. 144 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: For Yeah, I saw an Instagram reel where gave like 145 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: a step by step on how turned that into a 146 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: think a Pride flag or like a Transali flag or 147 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: something like that. 148 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: So that's what you got to do out there. You've 149 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: got to go find that real and turn it into 150 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: real life. 151 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: We're all good enough. The water is going to be 152 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: balmy as we all die from climate change. 153 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: I do want to say that I'm sick of I'm 154 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: sick of nothing but talk. Look also what's on at 155 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: the moment in New Zealand the New Zealand International Comedy Festival. 156 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: It's been amazing. I've been to not enough shows because 157 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: I've got a three year old and a one year old. 158 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: And actually we just got COVID. 159 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: No like we got COVID. 160 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: The novel Coronavirus is once again novel. 161 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely had it for a while. It feels like a 162 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: real throwback yesteryear. It didn't have me too. I got 163 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: pretty fucked up for like a day and a half. 164 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: But my wife's been really knocked back, which is unfortunate. 165 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: But I don't know, just a reminder that they're still 166 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: knocking around. I was attemting to. 167 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: Do good news, good news, good nineteen still here. 168 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: Everyone's right, remember those good ideas? The global lockdown? Are 169 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: you a bad movie connoisseur like a little bit? Yeah? 170 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Have you have you seen anything good? Because obviously you're 171 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: amazing podcast The Worst Idea of All Time, in which 172 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: you and guy watch Grown Ups two repeatedly? What are you? 173 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: Have you seen anything lately that seems challenge worthy? 174 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything lately. 175 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: We're taking a little bit of a break from the 176 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: sort of relentless bad movie podcast format. We're doing a 177 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: thing called good Times on the Worst Idea of All 178 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: Time Nice, where it's a it is now right now, 179 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: it's a hang and we're getting our comedian mates to 180 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 2: come on, and we're we're trying to spread some good 181 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: vibes at the moment Nice. 182 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: So people are looking for a respite for me. 183 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: Everything it's a you know, it's a no politics zone 184 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: except for like we did do a season called Kellionaire 185 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: where we plotted how to murder elon mask and some others. 186 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: Wow, but I would call that a political. 187 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: That's just letting us some steam. I feel it was cool. 188 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: It was it was with a real evolution because the 189 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: starter is basically just like a rift story over months, 190 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: and then we turned it into a game show and 191 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: got the listeners to come on and pitch us their 192 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 3: ideas shark tank style on how they would first of. 193 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 2: All, get a billion with our moral code on the 194 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: show is billionaires they exist. Okay, I guess we're going 195 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: to get thrown in prison if we say you can 196 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: kill them, but trillionaires don't exist yet, so we can 197 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: say trillionaires aren't allowed to exist. Therefore, we need to 198 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: get a couple of billionaires to the trillion dollar mark 199 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: and then murder that and then spread the wealth. So 200 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: we were accepting pictures on how you get a billionaire 201 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: to a trillion and then how you would end them 202 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: being around. 203 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: We're going to get to talk about those guys, which 204 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: is exciting also. 205 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: COVID, I'm sorry, Ice is at my door right now. 206 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: Of course, Pilby is the only one who gets an 207 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: All right, Tim, We're going to get to know you 208 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going 209 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're 210 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: talking about. A fun one up top, there's a store 211 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: that is offering you the experience of either you could say, 212 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: like Christmas morning, or stealing from people's porches without all 213 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: the risk, which is. 214 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: Some people's Christmas Morning exactly. 215 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: It kind of it's an enormously attractive proposition. But basically 216 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: they have a big sort of like ballpit of returned 217 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: random Amazon packages, unopened, and then you get to like 218 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: choose one. We'll talk about it. But it's both seems 219 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: like the end of the world and also I'm like, 220 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: I want to do that, Like I could see that 221 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: catching on. That's pretty fun. What the great uncanceling has begun. 222 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, he got the Award for Excellence in Film 223 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: and Television by the Better World Fund. Better at a. 224 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: Galling come just gonna do a little giggling this Better World. 225 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: And then there's also a writer of Last Man Standing 226 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: who kind of got uncanceled by the Writers Guild after 227 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: doing some awful shit. We'll talk about Trump quietly killing 228 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: the COVID booster for most Americans, and we'll talk about both. 229 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Is his favorite book series, 230 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: this sci fi future book series called the Culture Series. 231 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: It's like ten ten books. Ian m banks and it 232 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: is like full blown socialist propaganda, and somehow they've missed 233 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: the point of it or misinterpreted. So we'll talk about 234 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: all of that plenty more. But first tim we do 235 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your 236 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are? 237 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: It's not Better World Fund. 238 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: Oh okay, you want my second most recent sion, I'm 239 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: just on their LinkedIn now. It was a few days ago. 240 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: I had to google how to change water level on toilet, which. 241 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: Is an interesting thing to open up for a couple 242 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: of reasons. 243 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Number one, because I don't know how to do any 244 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: di y round the house stuff, so this is this 245 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: is a brand new area. I've never never tried my 246 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: hand in any form of plumbing before. 247 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: To just always assume toilets had like a natural water level. 248 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: Something. 249 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: You also haven't played Mario ever, because that ever. 250 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: I have played Mario. 251 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: That was highly instructive when I was learning how to 252 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: drive a car, and I have found out. 253 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: To mis committede vehicular man's letter multiple times. 254 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: I can't leave the house without two bananas and one tour. 255 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: But there's a whole bunch of stuff inside of the system. 256 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: And that determines the water level. But in America, you guys, 257 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: I think kind of universally around the whole country. From 258 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: what I've seen, I've been around both coasts. I think 259 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: I've been to Portland, Oregon a few times. I've been 260 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: to Kentucky. 261 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 4: Okay, that's better than I can do. 262 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: The water level and your toilets is so high everywhere, 263 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: it's like right up to it. 264 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: Well is yours super low? Like American We're like, we 265 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: have the most ship water in the world. 266 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: You want it. 267 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: There's like a greened yost nature to your water levels. 268 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: To go into an ostentatious amount of water exactly. 269 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: Everything's bigger in the US, including our ships. 270 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't get you don't get the kind 271 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: of splashback risk factor that we get in my native 272 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: country of New Zealand, because there is a distance that 273 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: that pooh is diving from. 274 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: You need that toilet brush when you're to love the 275 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: tone too much. 276 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you using the toilet brush for? 277 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: To clean clean the toilet, to clean the to. 278 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: So you were getting pool off your butt or something. 279 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: In in foreign toilets, you definitely need the pooh brush 280 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more than you do in American ones 281 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: where everything's gone directly into a pool of water. And 282 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: for yourself, Jack, incredibly bad aim or really good. But yeah, 283 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I hadn't really thought about that. 284 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It was also off the back of so 285 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: I've kind of built a podcast studio at my house. 286 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: I converted We've got a three car garage and I 287 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: converted that into a podcast studio and it's got its 288 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: own toilet, and it's that one that got wrecked. 289 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: And I don't know for sure who wrecked the toilet, 290 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: but there was an incident. 291 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: And honestly, okay, it's a very it's a short list 292 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: of people who were recording that day. 293 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: So I thought all white guys just had a podcast 294 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: studio in their homes. 295 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: The government programs out, but I got there before the 296 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: government was paying for those. 297 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: We all get a Better World Fund award and we 298 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: are given a podcast studio in our homes just to 299 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: make sure that everybody can hear what we have to say. 300 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: Which, by the way, the Better World first of all 301 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: their website Better World dot fund red flag to me 302 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: and I'm on there, I'm on the LinkedIn. This whole 303 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: thing looks very sus I'm seeing like the logo was 304 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: giving fiver and there's a lot of AI looking videos 305 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: to me. There's one shot of Leonardo DiCaprio on their 306 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: website on the homepage, which I think they're doing to 307 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: sort of launder their reputation, but may in fact behaving 308 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: the opposite effect. 309 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: Wait, that also tracks. Yeah, that also tracks with the 310 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 4: type of people who enjoy people who dat young people. 311 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: I think Kevin's been a little twenty five year olds twenty. 312 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: Five year olds technically are young people. 313 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: Although twenty five is too old. It's twenty four. Is 314 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: that that's the last year you're allowed to be in LEO? 315 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: Twenty five is when you get your Golden Watching retirement party. 316 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: He shoots you, he takes you up. 317 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: Jesus, what is tim Something you think is overrated. 318 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: Something that I think is overright. Okay, So I'm a 319 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: big geek, like I love technology, and I got to 320 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: tell the people from my take Ivory tower, where I 321 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: get a very good view of everything. 322 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 3: You've got to stop buying flagship phones. This is so 323 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: expensive and so unnecessary, Like ninety nine point nine percent 324 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: of the population should be buying cheaper phones than what 325 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 3: they're getting. And this applies for like laptops and tablets 326 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: as well. We've sort of in a bunch of different devices, 327 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: we've reached peak thing. 328 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: We've reached peak phone like years ago, peak laptop years ago. 329 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: So you can either pay three thousand dollars to get 330 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: the best laptop on the market, or literally pay half 331 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: that amount to get like ninety five percent of that laptop. 332 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: And it's the same with phones. All the cameras. Now, 333 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: as long as you're paying like above, sort of four 334 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: hundred dollars US for a phone, now you're going to 335 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: be getting like the camera will be pretty fucking similar 336 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: to the one that you're paying twelve hundred dollars for. 337 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: You think I want ninety five percent water in my toilet? 338 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: Do you think I'm gonna have a ninety five percent 339 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 4: is good phone? I'm American, Okay, I want a phone 340 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 4: big enough to defend me from the mass shootings? All right? 341 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: What about this? What about that? 342 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: Save money by not buying two flagship phone, by buying 343 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 2: one flagship phone, by two mid ray phones. You can 344 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: put one in each breast pocket and then no matter 345 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: which way the shoot comes from, you protect it. 346 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: That's pretty good reasonable, but like having a disposable phone 347 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: that you just need one. 348 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 4: Now we need one to get back into the US. 349 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: So when you're talking flagship, is that like iPhones and 350 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: like Apple products essentially top of the line stuff. 351 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: Just don't get the like no one really should be 352 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: getting the top of the line stuff. And it's where 353 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: all the companies make all their money because the staff 354 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: below that, the profit margins are a lot lower. 355 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: They're so expensive. But also like they require such like 356 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 4: geekree to like know the difference between like what you're 357 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: missing and what you like want for what you're doing. 358 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: Fucking it's a status symbol. It's like pure status symbol. 359 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: So please invest a little bit of time in going 360 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: to therapy and sorting yourself out rather than getting fifteen 361 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: dollars phone. 362 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah that's you dad here? 363 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 4: Now what what a what phone do you have? 364 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: I'd ask you not to out me like that, please. 365 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 4: Wow, I thought you were going to give me some 366 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 4: insight into like nude. 367 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: I'm a big nude and I got a really good 368 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: deal on it. So I got one of those phones 369 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: that folds. 370 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh I love. 371 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty extra, and I have just made myself 372 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: a pretty big hypocrite, but I'd be I'd be super 373 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: happy with Like, for example, if you're an Android person, 374 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: there's like the same song. 375 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: A really I feel great? 376 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah great, it's cheap. Great. 377 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: Would you if you were a person who wanted a 378 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: non flagship phone, would you be alienating yourself in a 379 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 4: group chat? Would that be an Oh? 380 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the deal with I need? Because I've always 381 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: been an Android dude? Sorry, because I'm a I'm a nerd, 382 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: So what's the deal? 383 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: Didn't they fix that? Didn't they fix that? 384 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: Now? 385 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: If you're if you're the if you don't know about 386 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: the green bubble, you are the green bubble? Yeah? 387 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: I know, But didn't they fix it? 388 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: Didn't they get like probably a way to get around it. 389 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 3: They got them talking to each other. 390 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: Now maybe I don't know if I still enjoy that discrimination, 391 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: you know, I think that's. 392 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: For that's like a flex by Apple to make sure 393 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: that you don't. 394 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: The only people in my life who pay me out 395 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: for having an Android phone? 396 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: Am I like? Very good comedian gay friends. 397 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: So that's me and we're friends. 398 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 4: Oh no, no. 399 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: Too deep? 400 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated? Tim? 401 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: I heard something for this by one change because it's 402 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: two gram So I'm gonna say underrated. Hot showers so 403 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: good in the womb. It's it's there's a few luxuries 404 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: in life that you can you can pretty much afford 405 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: any you know, situation as long as you've got a 406 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: roof over your head, and a shower is one of them. 407 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: Where it's just like pretty much anyone can get access 408 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: to a hot shower. 409 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: And I just rate it so highly. It's the bad. 410 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: It's so nice. You wake up, You're like fuck being 411 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: awake right now. 412 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 3: That sucks. That's the worst I have to go and 413 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: do a day. I guess I have to fucking go 414 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: to work now and listen to some idiot. You know 415 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do before then. 416 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 2: I'm gonna completely shut myself off from the rest of 417 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: the world, so I will see and hear nothing and 418 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: be in my own tiny little steam box between five 419 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: and fifteen minutes, depending on how my depression is going 420 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: that day. 421 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a hard time getting out of that shower, 422 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: I really and I take please, I will wake up 423 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: early to just take a longer shower. It's yeah, it's 424 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: just so nice. 425 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's bad for power and for water and everything, 426 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: but like we've got to have a couple of things 427 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: left over, right, can we. 428 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Gotta have it? We have showers? 429 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: Is that okay? 430 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: I think we should all agree on the one thing, 431 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: and I do think a hut hours at the top 432 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: of the list. 433 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 4: Also, after after learning about your toilet water deficiency, I'm like, 434 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 4: is it a trickle over there with your shower? Are 435 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: you just like a few drops? Thank God? 436 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 2: The amount of shia hases I've lived in, or as 437 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: we call them, flats with terrible water pressure where it is, 438 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: it's like getting into a room where an old man 439 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: is dribbling on you for seven minutes. 440 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, having good water pressure is a fucking revelation. It 441 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 3: is changing. 442 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 4: Sometimes I take showers, like in the middle of the 443 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: day or like mostly like at night, I'll take a 444 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 4: shower because I have like restless leg and so like 445 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: there will be some day nights where I cannot fall 446 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: asleep and I'll just like do the hot shower and 447 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: it's very soothing for my legs. 448 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, there more RESTful at night. 449 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: You're more RESTful. I'm like, calm down. 450 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: These seems legitimately like kind of debilitating, really annoying, super. 451 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 4: Restless leg Yeah. Yeah, that coupled with my sleep apnea 452 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 4: and severe mental illness. Listen going on, I'm unemployed. 453 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Triple threat. I believe that's what we call a triple threat. 454 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: Unemployed or led, you know, layered. 455 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: I'm in. I contain multitudes and they're all they all 456 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 4: have zero in their bank account. 457 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: Dang it, they're all covered by the icy. 458 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be 459 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and I do just want 460 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: to say that you had sent her out along your 461 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: overrated underrated. Not all guests do this, but they really thoughtful, conscientious, 462 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: courteous ones will send along like, hey, here's what I'm 463 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: thinking about talking about in case, like somebody did it yesterday, 464 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: and so Tim sent along his and so we we 465 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: know you're underrated. Was before hot showers, and it was 466 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: that climate change is still happening. And you included a 467 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: link to an article that fucked my whole morning. 468 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's fine. Was visited like every time I 469 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: come to the show, I complained about late stage capitalism 470 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: and the fact that the world's fucking burning down. So 471 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 3: maybe I'll take a different tech. But yeah, no, it's 472 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: a devastating article. 473 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: Basically a bunch of climate scientists is saying, hey, guys, 474 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: you know how we're definitely not going to reach the 475 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: was it keeping it on one point five degrees? Well, 476 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: even if we did, I think we're maybe at one 477 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: point five now. So they're saying like if somehow some 478 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: miracle happened and just we stayed at where we are 479 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: right now, which we definitely are not going to. 480 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: Now we agreed, Hey, just f yi, and we're not 481 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: signing any like binding kind thing, but just f yi, 482 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: we're going to start at one point five. All right, 483 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: everyone agrees to this and. 484 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: Then do the absolute best and what we're going. 485 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: Climate change with the same way that like Sandra Bullock's 486 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: character had to get through blindfold. I'm not looking at 487 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 4: it directly or I might die if we don't look 488 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 4: at it. 489 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: It's fine, right, we could just stand named the Blindfold. 490 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: It should have been called blindfoldin fault. That is true. 491 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: I would have seen it if it was called blindfold. 492 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: I have a better idea about what it's about. But 493 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: I mean this is this is the global editor. Okay, 494 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: So we all agreed we try our very absolute business 495 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: for one point five We're currently at one point two 496 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: and we're on Trenck to get to two point nine. 497 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: Two point nine is bad. 498 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: It's so so bad. 499 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: What the climate scientist was saying in this most recent report, 500 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 2: which was like a meta analysis of a whole bunch 501 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: of scientific studies across a few different related fields, is 502 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: that even if we got to the one point five, 503 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: which we won't, as shit's still gonna get exceptionally ranked. 504 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it's the it's the old the very first consequence 505 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: of climate change that I learned about via Kevin Costner's 506 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: Water World, the rising sea levels. They're like the the 507 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: melting ice caps and like Greenland and all the Antarctic 508 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: ice sheets that is like accelerating faster than a lot 509 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: of the more pessimistic models head and like we're going 510 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: like we're going to lose huge chunks of land. There's 511 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: going to be a mass migration event over the next 512 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: hundred years, just inevitably, because we're already like past the 513 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: point of like not losing that, like the sea is 514 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: going to be going up by There was one that 515 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: was like if we get to two point nine and 516 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: like everything melts, the water sea levels would go up 517 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirteen feet. That's that's fucking crazy. 518 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of that beast cities at the coast. 519 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's kind of how we built them. 520 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: I think this is why they kept calling us coastal elites. 521 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: They're just trying to wash us out of there. They're 522 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: just floods. 523 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: People live less than one meter above sea level, and 524 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: we're we're talking many many meters rise in sea level, 525 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: so we're. 526 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: All going to be in a Jack and Rose situation imminently, 527 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: or like. 528 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: I think they're going to do the atmosphere engineering where 529 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: they punch a whole bunch of like heavy meadows into 530 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: the atmosphere to block the sun. 531 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, we're going to sea from what I understand, yes, probably, yeah. 532 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 4: I mean I was talking to like civil engineers at 533 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: one of my dad's conferences, and they're like talking about 534 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 4: building man made islands. But I'm like, that's for rich people, Like. 535 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's are also the islands in space? 536 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: Where are the unhoused people going to be on these 537 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: man made of asking? 538 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: That question is no, that's just. 539 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: Water world, like the water gang. Can we call dips 540 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 4: on that now? 541 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 1: Like it this article? I was it's just everything's going 542 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: to be shrinking with the same number or more people. 543 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: Excuse everything everything shrinking. Everything shrinking, So in some ways 544 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: another silver lining, things that used to be considered small 545 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: might look bigger. Second, it might be average. 546 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: Now people should appreciate that. 547 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: It's literally Fortnite, though, Isn't this what the game Fortnite 548 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: is is like the game play area is like shrinking 549 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: as people and people are just like killing each other 550 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: to like you as the game progresses. I know that 551 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: was the premise of like pubg Player Unknown Battleground, but like, 552 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: I think that was also Fortnite that, like the whole 553 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: play area shrinks slowly so it like gets harder to 554 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: like hide. 555 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 2: You mean diminishing resources and people getting wiped out so 556 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: that people and the metal can and reach themselves. 557 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: The children are training. I think the children are training, okay, 558 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: for the. 559 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: Futures and the and the best way possible with guns. 560 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. 561 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna pass out in like 562 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 4: the first thirty minutes of this happening. I'm just going 563 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 4: just leave me and be too tired to bat. 564 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: Here's the here's the pitch. 565 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: I've been trying to like work on but for years 566 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: now we've been through crazy shit, Like even recently, I 567 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: can't imagine what it must have been like to be 568 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 2: around during World War two, you know, just like everyone 569 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: is dying exactly all of the time, just like family 570 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: members of yours just constantly sent off just so much death. 571 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: And wil War one horrible, you know, like even Spanish 572 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: influenza that week era. 573 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: Like we're from depression to the dust ball to World 574 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: War two. It's just like global catastrophe is just compiling. 575 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we're we're doomed, Like if the Internet 576 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: had been around back then. 577 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: How I see this is not how I read that, 578 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: because I think that kind of dumerism is going to 579 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: get everyone's hands off the wheel. And the thing is 580 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: with climate change is that like any fraction of a 581 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: degree that we can avoid getting to is going to 582 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: be super helpful for the planets. That everyone actually does 583 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: need to engage with this and like really throw down. 584 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: And I think, like, look, is shit going to be bad? 585 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's going to be pretty fucking bad. 586 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: But we've done really bad ship before, We've been through 587 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: bad ship before, and we have we do have a 588 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: far bigger toolkit than we've ever had, and it feels 589 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: like we're a little bit getting better at dealing with 590 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: crises like COVID nineteen was a crazy, crazy thing, a 591 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: crazy time. A lot of people died, there's no doubt 592 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: about that. But the ability for us to like whip 593 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: up a vaccine in the speed that we did once 594 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: we said our you know, resources to it. 595 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive. And all of the there is a 596 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: whole bunch of amazing shit happening with like solar technology 597 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: and new battery technology that's coming out, like there is 598 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: I think, you know, we've fucked ourselves on the timeline 599 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: a little bit. We didn't act quite fast enough, and 600 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 3: we're gonna have a lot of effects, but it's not 601 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: going to be the case that everyone's dead. It's like 602 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: sh It's going to change a lot. It's gonna get 603 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: really hard, but we can never have to deal. 604 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: With Okay, I believe that for you guys. But I 605 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 4: will be dead. 606 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: Okay, we're an island nation. We'll be underwater day. 607 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 4: You you will be surviving and floating. I'm I'm giving it. 608 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: I'm kidding. The human race should continue. I'm tired all right. 609 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: We should talk about This is just a I don't know, 610 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: like this is just like a snapshot of the dystopia 611 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: we live in. This is this was going viral while 612 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: a few weeks back, but it missed me. So there's 613 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: a store in the Bronx Dollar universe where you can 614 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: go and pay four dollars to pick a random Amazon 615 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: package that was like originally ordered by someone and either 616 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: returned or lost. But I think it's just all like 617 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: when when you return an Amazon package and Amazon's like, well, 618 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: we're not gonna fucking sell this, so they just like 619 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: put it in a big warehouse where then people like 620 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: bid on it. And so this store owner, industrious capitalist 621 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: that he is, goes and just buys like huge palettes 622 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: of these boxes, puts them in a pit of capitalist despair, 623 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: and then people come through and just pick a unopened 624 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: box and pay four dollars to get the experience of, 625 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it, Christmas morning as 626 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: an adult or being a porch pirate, but without the 627 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: risk of like being shot or arrested. 628 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 3: Four dollars a good price. 629 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: It's a good price, Like he nailed a price point 630 00:33:59,800 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: on it. 631 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: Like I would go, yeah, all of this is like 632 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: some pieces of shit like get a Menion dog toy 633 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: or something. But for four dollars, I'm willing to buy 634 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: that lotto ticket, you know, yeah. 635 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 4: Exactly because it could be like electronics, it could be 636 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 4: like yeah. 637 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 3: Flagship fun which if you know. 638 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: But it's like great that He's like, honestly, if it 639 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 4: gets rid of the waist and it helps like a 640 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 4: small business owner, I think that was a great idea 641 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: of him, even though it is very dystopian. 642 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean it's just I don't know that 643 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: it gets rid of the wasst It just like moves 644 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: the waste around. It probably was going to be it 645 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: was probably going to be like disposed of, like incinerated 646 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: in some awful way. 647 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: You're right, but now it will be in like three years. 648 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: So right. 649 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: You'd have to think though, if if it's four dollars, right, 650 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: so this person is building a business around each mystery 651 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: out of being four dollars, it's I he's buying them 652 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: for two on average, he's. 653 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: Buying them for less than a less than two on average. 654 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: He buys four hundred items for six hundred dollars. 655 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: Uh, wait, where is that? If I saw the math 656 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: I could do it in my head. 657 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: So four hundred items that's six hundred dollars is like, 658 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, less than two dollars half, Yeah, it's like 659 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: one and one and half one. 660 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's buck one fifty fifty item is buying this. 661 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: You guys were both doing the math, Like, wait, let 662 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: me check all of his math on this. She's only 663 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: a former PhD. Double check this. 664 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: How like that from Amazon's point of view, the men 665 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: maxing that, you know, determining the most efficient way to 666 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: get rid of stuff that has value is getting it 667 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: out the door at a dollar. 668 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 4: Storage buy them. But also like just I'm like afraid that, 669 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: like now that Amazon knows about the popularity of this, 670 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 4: they're going to do it and they're going to like 671 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: ruin this man's business. 672 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 3: And then yeah, they might sense to me like you 673 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: should on TAMO would even you spin a wheel and 674 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: it can give you a desk you just spent you 675 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 3: just pipe food allays, spin a wheel on they send 676 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 3: you a fucking package. 677 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: Can you get the Amazon's probably going to, yeah, get 678 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: get in on this where they're like, hey, well well 679 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: we'll get the address on one of these things. If 680 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: you yeah, well you guys are right on. First of all, 681 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: it is it is interesting, like where are these coming from? 682 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: The one that ABC, the local New York City ABC 683 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: News affiliate, was able to try. They went, got one 684 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: of the packages. It's still had This is a problem. 685 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: It's still had. The person that dress send phone number 686 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: on it. 687 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: It's a huge problem. 688 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: That's a bit of a problem. And he was like, what, 689 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,479 Speaker 1: I like, scratch it out in dark ink. I didn't 690 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: think you'd be able to see it. But anyways, they 691 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: reach out to the person and confirmed that it was 692 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: a this yoga mat that they got four dollars. Not 693 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: a bad price problem. 694 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 3: It's Amazon's problem though, right They should be not selling 695 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 3: palettes of people's. 696 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: So that so this is progressing in exactly the direction 697 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: you would expect. Walmart actually ensures its liquidators remove all 698 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: information from the box. Amazon doesn't give a fun. They're 699 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: doing everything like they're moving things as fast as. 700 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 3: The Amazon is. Amazon has managed to become morally more 701 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: deplorable than fucking Walmot. That is a crazy rice to 702 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: the bottom. 703 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so when Amazon was told that this was happening, 704 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: they I think this fun experiment is going to come 705 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: to an end soon. Because Amazon said it is investigating 706 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: the matter, including adding the possibility that these products may 707 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: have been delivered to customers addresses were stolen and are 708 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: now being resold by unauthorized third parties. So they're basically 709 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: saying to this shop owner, like what we'll call the 710 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: cops on you. 711 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 2: We can't have it be fine buying them from Amazon. 712 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 2: He's buying them from a liquor stick this dude. But yeah, exactly, 713 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: and that like in a thing that is like fully 714 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: your fault, that like you're not doing the bare minimum 715 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 2: of prejective customers hot idea, Jeff, maybe leave Katy Perry 716 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: at home, put the rest of them in the rocket, 717 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: and with the money you saved from not bringing Katy 718 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: Perry to you know, low Earth Orbit, you could scratch 719 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 2: out people's details on the stickers before you sell the 720 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 2: palette space. 721 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: Katy Perry, do that in exchange for whatever Katy Perry 722 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: to do that. 723 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 4: Maybe it'll distract her from trying to like destroy nuns 724 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 4: in court. 725 00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 3: There's fascinating. 726 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 4: There's a law called Perry's Law that gives like a 727 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 4: seventy two hour hold for people over the age of 728 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 4: like seventy five probably selling their properties. Yeah, because Katy 729 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 4: Perry has multiple times fucked over old people who aren't 730 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 4: including including nuns, one of whom like died in court 731 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 4: or something, had a heart attack in court. Like she's 732 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 4: like an evil person. 733 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in a very real way. I think in 734 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 3: California that introduced basically a specific elder abuse law named 735 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: it after Katy Perry because of this crazy record she's 736 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: got of it, would say, allegedly tricking old people into 737 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: selling their property for way lower the market value and 738 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: basically hacktoring them and to signing it away really quickly. 739 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 2: It's found out about this recently, but it's like this 740 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 2: fucking woman. 741 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 4: It's like a level of evil you can't even conceive 742 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 4: because you're like, aren't you busy singing? Like why are you? 743 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: Like why don't you buy a home that's available? 744 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: Hell? The super Bowl halftime show though, Karen Russell brand 745 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: I know what to do. 746 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 4: At first? Have you seen the Katy Perry documentary? 747 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: Not? 748 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 4: Okay? So she's like working super hard on tour and 749 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 4: like performing and everything, and he's like being like weird, 750 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 4: and then he tells her he wants a divorce, like 751 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 4: while she's in her chair getting her makeup or whatever 752 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 4: right before going on, and she's like silently weeping and 753 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 4: then sucks it up and does her fucking show and 754 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 4: wins you over. You're like, oh my god, Katy Perry. 755 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 4: And now she's like kicking old people. It's so bad. 756 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: She's just like the good one in that relationship. 757 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, being but also like I don't know, like. 758 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: For a pope, being a good one in a relationship 759 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: with Russell Brand. 760 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, would you rather. 761 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And 762 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: we're back, and the great uncanceling has begun. According to 763 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: Kevin Spacey, he's feeling some momentum after he was given 764 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: the Award for Excellence in Film and Television by the 765 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: Better World Fund at a gala in con feels feels 766 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: all like a work of satire. This was again months 767 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: after news dropped that he's facing yet another lawsuit for 768 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 1: allegedly committing sexual abuse, and he was announced we are 769 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: truly privileged to welcome Kevin Spacey as our guest of 770 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: honor and honoree at the Better World Fund gala by 771 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,439 Speaker 1: the president and founder of the Better World Fund, and 772 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: he told the crowd, it's very nice to be back. 773 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 4: Ew e e e ew he. 774 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: Was really like, it felt like he was like and 775 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: finally like, I can put all of this behind me. 776 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: I feel surrounded by so much affection and love. I've 777 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: heard from so many of my friends and colleagues and 778 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 1: co stars in the last week since this award was announced. 779 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: It's very nice to be back. And then he went 780 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: on an unhinged rant comparing his own career consequences stemming 781 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: from multiple allegations of sexual assault to the Hollywood Blacklist 782 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: during the red Scare. What do He also cited the 783 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: case of sitcom writer Tim Doyle, who was censured by 784 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: the Writer's Guild for posting a photo of a lynching 785 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: in a writer's Facebook group during the strike. So somebody said, 786 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: happy you do that. Someone said happy one hundredth day 787 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: to all who observe as a comment to mark the 788 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: one hundredth day of the WGA strike, and he was 789 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: one of the first to comment, and his joke was, 790 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: I just got my tree up with a black and 791 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: white image featuring like a man hanging from a tree 792 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: on what appears to be a lynching. And the writer 793 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: director Keith Powell from thirty Rock, he plays two fur 794 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: from thirty Rock was like one of the admins of 795 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 1: the group, and he immediately was like this. He described 796 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: his post as especially horrible, racist, self martyring, vile, clueless, 797 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: out of touch, boneheaded, disturbing and toxic post, and he 798 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: was censured. But I think the Writers Guild voted to 799 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: reverse their center of him on the same day that 800 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: that was actually something that Spacey said in his speech 801 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. The Writers Guilt in a vote with 802 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: all their members reversed their center of Tim. And at 803 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: the same time, Manuel invited me here to accept this award. 804 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: So he's like, we're starting to many people. 805 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 4: He's like pedophiles and racist. You didn't know I was one, 806 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 4: but I am right. 807 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 3: Can you imagine if so? There was his name, Tim Doyle, 808 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: this writer. 809 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: Very funny, very funny joke by him. 810 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 2: You've done fucked up, You've done fucked up so bad, 811 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 2: and you've done everything you can to try and sort 812 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 2: of put it behind you and get everyone to forget. 813 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 3: And Kevin Spacey takes the stage in. 814 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 4: Ceremonial I know, my brother, we did the same thing. 815 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 3: No no, no no no no no no no no no. 816 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: I don't want this one. I don't want defense from 817 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 3: Kevin Spacey. 818 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: No studio will touch him because of a joke he posted. 819 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: Is how Kevin Spacey described it, of course, not explaining 820 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: what the joke, what the joke like. Also, it's not 821 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: a joke, like I don't It's just seems like he 822 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: just had racism in his heart and was like, let 823 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: me just like get this out here. I'm on the 824 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: internet a lot. 825 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 2: I don't even know where you sort of like get 826 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 2: one of those pictures from you know what I mean. 827 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 2: It's not like a thing that that just sort of 828 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 2: falls into your phone because someone posts it as a mame. 829 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 4: He just had it saved on his phone. It's got 830 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 4: like he's like, let me just go to my favorite album. Yeah, 831 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 4: you guys seen the Morning Show on I think it's. 832 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: Apple, Uh Jennifer Show. Yeah. 833 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. So Steve Carrell plays like I think his portrayal 834 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 4: of like a dude who got canceled for inappropriate workplace 835 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 4: sal behavior. Yeah, like a Matt Lower type. It's like 836 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 4: very good. And he meets someone who is like on 837 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 4: his side and wants to do a documentary with him 838 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 4: about like people who get canceled. Spoiler alert and and 839 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 4: it's Martin Short, and Martin Short like describes even like 840 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 4: further stuff that he's done with, like like pedophilia stuff, 841 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 4: and then Steve Carrel is like because like Martin Short's like, 842 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 4: we're like the same, you. 843 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 3: Know, it's funny. 844 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, not like that. No. 845 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 3: I'm it's important for people to remember as well. 846 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 2: And I think most people like, well remember this, but 847 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 2: for my money, we should be talking about it all 848 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: the time because of how goddamn and sane this was. 849 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey got credibly accused of sexual abuse of a 850 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 2: minor to the point where it got into the courts, 851 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 2: and also sexually abusing other people, which I can't remember 852 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 2: if they were miners not. 853 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 3: I think they were. 854 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 2: They were sort of above the legal age, but sexual 855 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 2: like criminal act. 856 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 3: He was accused of multiple times. 857 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 2: Multiple people died while the cases were going through, and 858 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 2: then like I think it was maybe during the COVID lockdowns, 859 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 2: he released a video from his kitchen as as underwad 860 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 2: let me be Frank, Let me be Frank. 861 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 4: You didn't drink Christmas. 862 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 3: The lady was camera and it was just like, what 863 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 3: the fuck are you? What is this dude? 864 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: Psych character? I haven't watched House of Cards, but that 865 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: it's a character who like kills people all the time 866 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: to get out of trouble. 867 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Like the first season, the sort of character 868 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 2: defining moment is that he pushes a journalist in front 869 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 2: of the subway train who he's befriended, played. 870 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 4: By one of the Maros sisters. 871 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is a spoiler. But I heard that 872 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: show sucks shit. So actually no one's watching. 873 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 4: Which which like I was kind of like I was 874 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 4: talking to Jackies about this and we were like everyone 875 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 4: stopped watching because of him, but like after he left, 876 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 4: so we kind of like reinforced that we were watching 877 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 4: because of him, even if that's not why, you know 878 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like we kind of did it backwards. 879 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,959 Speaker 2: Well, they should have stopped making it, like they really 880 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: needed to cut their losses, but Netflix were like one 881 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: more season and put Robin Wright at the Helm, who 882 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 2: rolled by all accounts unfortunately. 883 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: You know, it is also one of those shows that historically, 884 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: it like kicked off this streaming boom that now is 885 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: destroying the entertainment industry and in Hollywood at least, so 886 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: it's really holds kind of an uncomfortable position for. 887 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 3: A bunch of reasons. 888 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know that multiple people died during the investigation, Like, 889 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 4: that's great. How many people died? 890 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 3: I don't know, top of mine, but I think it's 891 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 3: it's like it's more than. 892 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: Two that what that's like a lot? Yeah, yeah, I 893 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: don't know that anything, like if he's ever been credibly accused. 894 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: I think just the fact that he then, like the 895 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: character he chose to inhabit to address the public was 896 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: a person who kills people, gets out of deals with 897 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: scandals by murdering innocent people and witnesses. 898 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 4: And he's also saying, let me be this person. 899 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: Let me be Yeah, exactly, I do. It is a 900 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: weird coincidence and at the very least him. 901 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, legally speaking, it is a weird incident. 902 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 4: It's also like, isn't it like a mass shooting if 903 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 4: it's like three or more people or something like or 904 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 4: four people, it's like that, but with like out of 905 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 4: a specific group of people for Kevin Spacey. 906 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: Very strange. It's so crazy, very strange coincidence. 907 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 2: But listen, I don't want to callt Kevin Spacey's legal 908 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 2: team to this fine show. 909 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: So they are big for we hear from them all 910 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:24,439 Speaker 1: the time. 911 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 4: How do we get Kevin Spacey to become a trillionaire? 912 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: So maybe all he has to do is read this 913 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: sci fi series, the culture series that is written by 914 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: what's this guy's name, Ian M Banks, Scottish writer. It 915 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: is hard sci fi where people you know, explore space. 916 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: People describe it sounds a lot like a combination of 917 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: like Star Wars and Star Trek. And I'm sure me 918 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: just generally combining those two franchises in describing another franchise 919 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: will not insight the anger of any sci fi fans. 920 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be cool with me saying that. 921 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 3: But people say it's like cymously chill people. Yes, the 922 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 3: Hoti fans laid back dudes. 923 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: But so this is apparently the favorite sci fi of 924 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk. You have to assume 925 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: it has all sorts of like libertarian ideals built into it. 926 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: It is in fact written by a card carring socialist 927 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: who despised the super rich and once shredded his UK 928 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: passport and mailed it to Tony Blair during the Iraq. 929 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 4: That is amazing. Whoa this is how much they hate women? 930 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 4: They're like fuck iin Rand, We'll take whatever this guy 931 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 4: has exactly. 932 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: You have your book series. You can just see that 933 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: she thought you guys ruled. You could just read that 934 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: thing about the you know, people who like trains or 935 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: whatever the fuck I Ran series is. But yeah, it's 936 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: like people who read it are like, yeah, no, it's 937 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: depicts a world where AI does exist, but it's used 938 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: to better people's lives and like make it so that 939 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 1: people have less like busy work to do, and the 940 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 1: actual like archetypal super villain is a billionaire capitalist and 941 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 1: there's no police or crime, and society essentially rules by 942 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: cancel culture, like all these things that you would think 943 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: they would be against, especially Elon Musk, who like names. 944 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 1: Elon Musk has like named his spacecraft after like spacecraft 945 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: in this book, Like he crazy open an avowed huge 946 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: fan of this book, and it just seems to represent 947 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: everything that he despises. 948 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 3: This is an ongoing theme of billionaires reading sci fi letterature, 949 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 3: which are supposed to be this sort of informative, artistic 950 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 3: explorations of what happens if we take the idea of 951 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: capitalism to its natural conclusion, and we're technology is eating 952 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 3: and they go oh, yeah, cool idea. It's like, no, 953 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 3: fucking not what we were trying to say in this book. 954 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 3: What we were saying it was a bad thing. They're 955 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 3: seeing the villains and like really identifying with them and going, oh, 956 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 3: that would be a cool thing to do. They missed 957 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 3: the point again and again. This is like not the 958 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 3: first sci fi series where your elons and your bezosis 959 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 3: have like glorified the worst elements of what are supposed 960 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 3: to be cautionary tales. To the rest of us. They're dumb. 961 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 4: God the sketch I probably brought up on here a 962 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 4: thousand times, and I will continue going back to is 963 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 4: Mitchell and Webbs are we the baddies? Because they will 964 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 4: never reach the point where they're like, wait a minute, 965 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 4: they never reached that point. They're just constantly like in 966 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 4: their skull uniforms being like we're doing a good job. 967 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: I get that's part of the pathology of being a billionaire. 968 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 2: You don't get to be a billionaire if you have 969 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 2: self awareness. If you possess self awareness, you don't get 970 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: to trample on as many scales as you need to 971 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 2: to accumulate that much wealth to yourself, Like it's just 972 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 2: not possible. 973 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 3: So what we're dealing with is like. 974 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 2: A self selected group of people who are lacking like 975 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 2: not just basic humanity and decency, but any kind of 976 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 2: self awareness that the most of the rest of the 977 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: population possess and walk around with and give us our 978 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 2: little neuroses and that voice inside your heir going, hey, 979 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't maybe this, you know, maybe this will 980 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: make this person feel bad, Maybe this will have negative 981 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,760 Speaker 2: effects for someone who isn't me. They're like demonstrably missing 982 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 2: that component of their fucking brain to get to the 983 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 2: billionaire status. That's why you've got to legislate against this stuff, 984 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 2: because if you leave these guys to their own devices, 985 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 2: this is what happens. You need infrastructure like the to 986 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 2: just go, hey, guess what your first billion, go and 987 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 2: make it. 988 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 3: But you're not like, we will. 989 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 2: Just take the rist after a billion and we'll build 990 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 2: hospitals and rides with it. 991 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: Something that billionaires I feel like like to say, is 992 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: like the first million or the first billion is the 993 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: hard part and then like from there. And I think 994 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: that's really true, Like I think we're overrating how difficult 995 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 1: it is to go from like being a one hundred 996 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: millionaire to a billionaire. I think just a lot of 997 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: people stop because they're like, well, I don't have anything 998 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: compelling me to keep like compounding my money in a 999 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: way that's just going to harm people. And so what 1000 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: we're left with is people like billionaires who are just 1001 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: the most pathologically narcissistic people out of a group of 1002 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: like five hundred, you know, one hundred millionaires, and they're 1003 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: like class of like super privileged, lucky people. And it's 1004 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: just this self selecting thing where it's like that you 1005 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 1: have to be broken in a very profound way to 1006 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: get to be a billionaire, and then we just do 1007 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: the whitewashing for them to be like and they're actually 1008 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 1: really smart and they're the smartest Okay. 1009 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 4: It sounds like you guys just aren't hustling and grinding 1010 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 4: one day that's gonna be. 1011 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 3: Me, okay, and not just broken in a way that's interesting, 1012 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 3: but broken in a way that is always deep for 1013 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 3: me to the rest of us. 1014 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, but if they just were like I'm gonna 1015 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 4: learn I'm gonna pay yoyoma to teach me violin, we'd 1016 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,760 Speaker 4: be like, sure, dude, whatever you know. But they're using 1017 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 4: it to like destroy the world. 1018 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, so the the culture. In the world 1019 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: of the culture, people are gender fluid, So anyone can 1020 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: change gender just by thinking about it. And most people, 1021 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: why don't they do once in their lives. 1022 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 3: Hey, elon, why don't you pay attention to that part 1023 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 3: of the book and maybe folk that into your personality. 1024 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 3: Then it's okay to express your gender however you want to. Instead, 1025 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 3: you're like honing out on the worst. 1026 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, they're yeah, they're blatantly morally incompatible with the 1027 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: existence of billionaires. That's like the person who wrote the books, 1028 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 1: he's now past, but he's like that there. It's just 1029 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 1: like a bunch of like hippie commie people with like 1030 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,879 Speaker 1: amazing technology. 1031 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 2: You guys think now that this presents like a big 1032 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 2: problem for writers, writers and other artists who are creating 1033 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 2: what is supposed to be like instructional art about sort 1034 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 2: of class consciousness. And yeah, the way that we're structuring, 1035 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 2: you know, how we treat our wealthiest individuals. Because if 1036 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 2: I was a sci fi writer, now, this is the 1037 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 2: terrain that I would want to play in. But you're like, fuck, 1038 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 2: I might accidentally be writing an instruction manual for these 1039 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 2: psychos yeah, because they don't have amazing imaginations, but they 1040 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 2: can like go and find my ideas that I'm trying 1041 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 2: to put out there to be a cautionary tail, and go, oh, yeah, 1042 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 2: we should do this. Do you actually think this might 1043 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 2: have like a shelling effect at the moment of people 1044 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 2: who want to write these books and exploring these ideas, 1045 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 2: but they're two, They're going to give these ideas to 1046 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 2: the billionaires. 1047 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe it'll just like get make people 1048 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: take a harder look because like one of the things, 1049 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: so this is from a box article is just written 1050 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,919 Speaker 1: about these books and about like this fandom, and they 1051 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: this box article is saying, like in the end, the 1052 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: thing that always happens is the good guys develop a 1053 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: piece of technology and like use it in a clever 1054 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: way to like solve the problem. And so it ends 1055 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: up being sending the message that like more power or 1056 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: like better technology equals being right. And so in that way, 1057 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 1: like the theme of the book is the most important 1058 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: thing powerful people can do is use their power to 1059 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: make the world or to make like the better technology. 1060 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: You know. 1061 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 2: And so you got to write some sci fi books 1062 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 2: about solidarity and unionizing. 1063 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, wait, Okay, this this is this brings me 1064 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 4: to Shazam? Is that the movie? 1065 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: That's the movie right with Zachary Levi? 1066 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, who ironically is this crazy Trump supporting libertarians. But 1067 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 4: in Shazam spoiler alert, he like redistributes his powers and 1068 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 4: that's how they save the day. He like shares his 1069 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 4: powers with his other like brothers and sisters and they're 1070 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 4: able to save like there's no one hero at the 1071 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 4: end of it. And so that's why I always, I 1072 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 4: always like loved that movie for that reason at the end, 1073 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 4: because usually it's just like Spider Man just like thinking 1074 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 4: harder and wanting it more and then be finding the 1075 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 4: strength and it's like, no, dude, you need other people 1076 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 4: to help you. And that's like what the moral of 1077 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 4: that movie was. But Zach really I didn't. 1078 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 2: Really learn that plus this story going watch Shazam. 1079 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like Batman is the one that makes 1080 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: sense for billionaires like Batman like them just like a 1081 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: I alone can fix it mentality and like I will 1082 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: instead of investing in fixing the structural issues deep. 1083 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 2: The Batman is the right example because I've got this 1084 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 2: sneaking suspicion I've not looked into this for everyone. But 1085 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 2: I think a lot of these guys wouldn't exist if 1086 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 2: they had a good relationship with their dad. Yeah, like 1087 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, respectfully, I'm thinking Joe Rogan Elon 1088 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 2: Musk's dad is a uniquely fucked up individual who. 1089 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 3: Relationship with d Yeah. 1090 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, like my suspicion is the vast bulk 1091 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 2: of these dudes that we're talking about if you look 1092 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: at that relationship with it. That's why I'm so like, 1093 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta hug my boys all the time. 1094 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 2: You have two boys, two boys, and they're getting a 1095 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 2: lot of hugs. 1096 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: I got two boys, and I'm trying to maximize their 1097 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: earning potential. 1098 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 4: But I've abandoned them and I'm hoping they'll become famous 1099 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 4: very quickly. 1100 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: Got a lot of bills. Tim, Such a pleasure having 1101 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: you on the show. Where can you? People find you, 1102 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: follow you, hear you, all that good stuff. 1103 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. So the worst idea of all time is the 1104 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 3: podcast I did with Guy Montgomery, who is a real stitch. 1105 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: He's a friend, dude, He's so funny. One another one 1106 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 1: of our faves. 1107 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 3: That's the main thing. 1108 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about the movies that you guys 1109 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 1: have covered. So Season one was grown Ups two, Season 1110 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: two Sex in the City Too. Season three We Are 1111 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Your Friends for Where are Your Friends? And actually, if 1112 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: you want little taste. 1113 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Probably one of the things I'm most proud of that 1114 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 2: I've ever made is Guy and I so very briefly, 1115 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 2: fucking almost a decade ago. Now, YouTube was commissioning original 1116 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 2: content and they gave us, I think they gave the 1117 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 2: production team. I think this was like legally, I'm not 1118 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 2: allowed to say this, but whatever, they didn't. They didn't 1119 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 2: greenlight the series, so fuck it, like a quarter of 1120 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 2: a million dollars to make a pilot. And so Guy 1121 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 2: and I lived in a sewer in New York City 1122 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 2: and watched teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles over and over again 1123 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 2: to invent the concept called method film reviewing. That is 1124 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 2: on YouTube, So that's quite good if you want to 1125 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 2: check that out. 1126 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the rehearsal before the rehearsal, that's. 1127 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 2: Pre COVID, So you can check that out on YouTube. 1128 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 2: If you look up voice idea of all Time pilot. 1129 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 2: If you just punched that in, that'll that'll make you 1130 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 2: giggle for twenty minutes. 1131 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: How is it down there? Pretty cool how it was. 1132 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 2: So it was such a like America kind of Hollywood 1133 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 2: even though we're in New York kind of thing, because 1134 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 2: they showed us a map of where we were and 1135 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,439 Speaker 2: they were like, okay, and here's the hotel where you'll 1136 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 2: sleep at at night. When we stopped shooting, I was like, 1137 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? And they're like, well, you know, 1138 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 2: so we wrap up at about eleven crew packs down. 1139 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 2: You guys get some sleep there. I was like, dude, 1140 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 2: we're sleeping in the sewer if we say we're sleeping. 1141 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 3: So they had to get these huge fans to ventilate 1142 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 3: the ear so we wouldn't die down there because we 1143 01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 3: were so like, we were committed, so we lived. Director 1144 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,439 Speaker 3: respected the integrity, and I'm sure all the production crew 1145 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 3: were like these idiots. 1146 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: The production the emails between the production executives, you should like, Foyer, 1147 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: you should like those emails and then make a feature 1148 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: film about this experience. 1149 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 2: And I just want to shout out something while I'm 1150 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 2: on the show. Adam Curtis. 1151 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if people are familiar with his work, 1152 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 3: but he is a papernormaliza share how the. 1153 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 2: Funk Yeah documentary maker. I guess you described him as 1154 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 2: like a sociologist. He's like an anthropologist in some ways. 1155 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 2: He's got a series that's about to come out, a 1156 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 2: new series called Shifty. His ship is incredible, hyper Normalization 1157 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 2: is like essential watching at the moment. The one that 1158 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 2: I still really rate, which I think is probably his 1159 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 2: best work in my opinion, is The Century of the Self, 1160 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 2: which is all about the rise of consumerism and how 1161 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 2: it happened. And it happened really specifically, and it was 1162 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 2: down to kind of one guy called Edward Burnet's and 1163 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 2: it explores how that happened. But he's got a new 1164 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 2: series that's coming out soon called Shifty, and I am 1165 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 2: fucking excited. 1166 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Nice what's it? What is Shifty about? Do you know? 1167 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 3: It's about Britain. 1168 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 2: It's about extreme money and hyper individualism came together to 1169 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 2: become an unspoken alliance. So it sounds like it's about 1170 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 2: probably Thatcherism and yeah, how Britain lost its way and 1171 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 2: then leading up to Brexit and beyond. 1172 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 1: There's also a really good I'll save it from my 1173 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 1: thing thing I've been enjoying. But there's a there's a 1174 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: good Twitter that is future Adam Curtis b roll Oh Yeah, 1175 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: there's something that he does. He just finds these incredible 1176 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: shots of just random things like it usually as documentaries 1177 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 1: are a series of like seemingly random things that it's 1178 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: like a collage of like moments from the thing that 1179 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: he's talking about, and so you're hearing these like really 1180 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: interesting kind of high theory ideas about like what's going 1181 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 1: wrong with society and then like there's just these incredible 1182 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: He just has an amazing ability to like find all 1183 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 1: this like b roll from that moment in time. His 1184 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: Russia one is really good also. 1185 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but apparently the way he makes them as Hay 1186 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 2: and a small team of research is that babyc locked 1187 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 2: themselves and the BABC archives for like three months and 1188 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 2: the sewers with birds of the feathers floating together. 1189 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Great recommendation, Paula, Where can people find you? Is there 1190 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: workimedia you've been enjoying? 1191 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 4: Find me and Dallas on Sunday, Dallas Dominic Club leaves 1192 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 4: by tickets. They tell your friends of by tickets. 1193 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,919 Speaker 5: If you know someone that you met eight years ago 1194 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 5: one time in passing in the girl's bathroom and you 1195 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 5: added each other on Instagram and she her uncle lives 1196 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 5: in Dallas, please tell her uncle to come to my show. 1197 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 4: And I'm at Paul Ganalen everywhere p A L A 1198 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 4: B I g U and A L A N. Listen, 1199 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 4: this is for non black people. Sinners was really good 1200 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 4: and if you have a different opinion, you're wrong. I'm sorry. 1201 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 4: I watched it again on Saturday night and I got 1202 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 4: more out of it. It's just so entertaining. It's so entertaining, 1203 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, I knew they were vampires, there's 1204 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 4: no surprise, blah blah blah. Then you're watching it wrong, 1205 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 4: like you're just you're you're not looking at it for 1206 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 4: the right things. I don't know what to tell you. 1207 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 4: Is beautiful. I love it. Might go see it again. 1208 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 4: Who knows? 1209 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: There you go. Great. So that's your work of media 1210 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying. 1211 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if you've heard of it. 1212 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I know it's something that I am 1213 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 1: growing up Catholic. That's something I identify. 1214 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 4: Also, Buddy Guy, who is the person at the end 1215 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 4: of the movie who is a real jazz player or 1216 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 4: blues player, jazz blues player. He is on or and 1217 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 4: he's like touring more than I am. And I'm like, 1218 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 4: aren't you a million years old? How are you doing 1219 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 4: this physically? But I want to like see him now. 1220 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, this is so cool. 1221 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 1: Hell yeah awesome. You can find me on Twitter at 1222 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien work a media I enjoy. I'm gonna 1223 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 1: link off too. I don't think there's been many updates recently, 1224 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: but there's a bunch from the archive that are a 1225 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 1: good look at its future. Adam Curtis b roll on 1226 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Twitter that just has some great moments. There's this one 1227 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 1: that is a food influencer like shooting a video and 1228 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: then you like see the person drop the camera from 1229 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: them and they just like go from this like smiley 1230 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: thing to just the most profound existential emptiness in like 1231 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 1: the blink of a high It's so wild. But they 1232 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: also have like Trump watching a local high school band 1233 01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 1: of cheerleaders perform at mar A Lago and just they 1234 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: really nail it. It's it's like, yeah, these really are 1235 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: great moments that would be in an Adam Curtis is this. 1236 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,439 Speaker 3: Take talk where are you? What platform? Is the song? 1237 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 1: It's on Twitter x the everything at Yeah excellent. It's 1238 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: actually only like twelve videos. I act really like a 1239 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: handful of them. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter 1240 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore ol Brian and on Blue Sky at 1241 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: jack Obi the Number one. We are on Twitter at 1242 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist and on Blue Sky at daily Zeitgeist. Where 1243 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram you can go to 1244 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 1: the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it, 1245 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 1: and there you will find the footnotes. Good notes is 1246 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: where we link off to the works of social media 1247 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: we've been enjoying. Where we will link off to tickets 1248 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: for apologies upcoming show, and yeah, the sources for the 1249 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 1: information for today's episode. We also link off to a 1250 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: song there that we think you might enjoy. Super producer 1251 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Justin is there a song that you think the people 1252 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: might enjoy? 1253 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a song called called Little Things by 1254 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 6: Still Woozy, And I'm telling you, if you want to 1255 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 6: put yourself in the mood for the unofficial start of 1256 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 6: summer this weekend, throw on this track during like a 1257 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 6: barbecue or when your pool side, and you won't regret it. 1258 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 6: The vocals are so smooth, the production quality is outstanding, 1259 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,639 Speaker 6: and it's just such a vibe. So that song, again 1260 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 6: is little Things by Still woozy and you can find 1261 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 6: that song in the footnotes. 1262 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Footnotes No Daily Zye Guys is a production of by 1263 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit 1264 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio Wrap, Apple podcast or wherever you listen 1265 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for 1266 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: us this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell 1267 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 1: you what is trending and we'll talk to you all 1268 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 1: then bye. 1269 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,440 Speaker 4: Good bye bye. 1270 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,879 Speaker 3: The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Law. 1271 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 4: Co produced by Bee Wang. 1272 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Co produced by Victor Wright 1273 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 3: Co written by Jam mcnapp, edited and engineered by Justin Conner,