WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #10

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<v Speaker 1>Also media.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling

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<v Speaker 2>economic world, and what this means for you. I'm Garrison Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joined by Robert Evans, James Stout, and Mio Wong.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a liberation day in America. Everyone. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel? I feel liberated.

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<v Speaker 3>Last, free at last, Thank God Almighty, we are free

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<v Speaker 3>at last for being able to afford things.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so so liberated.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, unchained from a burden of having money.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, well, as the Buddhists say, you know, freeing

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<v Speaker 3>yourself from attachment is really the path to nirvana.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump really is our first Buddhist president, is.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing they say about him. That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>He may be the new Dali Lama who can say

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<v Speaker 3>the Dhali Lama and he hasn't but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, and the priests who for him after he

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<v Speaker 4>dies when he comes back. This guy's Unfortunately, they're probably

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<v Speaker 4>on a fucking travel band list.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, oh my god, there's I mean, pretty good chance

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<v Speaker 3>they're in ice custody at the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>If I understand buddhistm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we should just get right to the

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<v Speaker 2>most pressing news, which is line go.

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<v Speaker 4>Down, Line, Line is on its way down. Yeah, line

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<v Speaker 4>in free fold currently. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because they chose they were supposed to initially.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was like going to be three pm

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<v Speaker 3>or something. E St two or three was the initial

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<v Speaker 3>time they wanted to announce this, which would have given

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<v Speaker 3>the stock market a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Hours on April second, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, on April second, it would have given it Liberation Day.

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<v Speaker 3>On Liberation Day, there would have been a couple hours

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<v Speaker 3>for it to take effect, and they attempted to mitigate this.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess in the hope that we would all get

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<v Speaker 4>over it overnight, we would forget some other ship before

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<v Speaker 4>the new prices. Even Kevin, we'd be like, ah, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on in the next thing. But the Dow and

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<v Speaker 4>the Nazi all all plunged because it's clear if the

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<v Speaker 4>president is like deliberately shifting an event to not hurt

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<v Speaker 4>the stock market, that's going to hurt the stock market,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. Yeah, yeah, it's good. When you see a

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<v Speaker 4>ninety degree angle on the old stock market graph, that's

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<v Speaker 4>when you know someone's really crushing it. In the economic delip.

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<v Speaker 3>And so far we were recording this a little afternoon

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<v Speaker 3>on Thursday, the April third, So just in the course

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<v Speaker 3>of today, major stock indexes have dropped by about five

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<v Speaker 3>point six percent, which means about two point seven trillion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in market value, which will be the largest decline

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<v Speaker 3>since March of twenty twenty sick. So we are it

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<v Speaker 3>is looking like this is going to be, at the

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<v Speaker 3>very least a stock market decline in line with the

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<v Speaker 3>one that came as a result of the global pandemic,

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<v Speaker 3>with the noted caveat that there's really no reason to

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<v Speaker 3>believe it will get better at any point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you can't ready vaccinate against you bid.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not qualified to give financial advice, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think everyone should pull out your four O one K

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<v Speaker 2>right now, go to the bank, withdraw all your money,

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<v Speaker 2>all of it your accounts ripe.

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<v Speaker 3>Put it into the worst tasting survival foods, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna want to buy kel texts, lots of col texts

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<v Speaker 3>in a caliber no one.

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<v Speaker 4>Else has five to seven. Get the one that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>eight thirty two ACP. I won the thirty two ACP.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it, James. Everyone buy thirty two ACP and guy,

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<v Speaker 4>it's exceeded in ending one World war, and right it

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<v Speaker 4>won't let us down. We call that doing a hitler,

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<v Speaker 4>but in a good way.

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<v Speaker 6>Someone here has to be vaguely responsible and say, don't

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<v Speaker 6>fucking do that. Do none of those things zero zero

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<v Speaker 6>of those into your accounts, get hard cash.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Cuban told people to do that. Absolutely not Mayor

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<v Speaker 4>endorses Reagan Coin is the exclusive safe source of the

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<v Speaker 4>time savings.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna want to put every dime you've got impressed latinum.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I know that that's the currency from star Trek

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<v Speaker 3>and does not exist. Nevertheless, cancel your accounts, put it

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<v Speaker 3>all in latinum.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's gonna exist in like what like forty

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<v Speaker 2>years per time.

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<v Speaker 4>On the ground, it's not already a meme coin ten

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<v Speaker 4>minutes off to discussion, more.

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<v Speaker 2>Stable than your four oh one k.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, you can be rich just in time for

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<v Speaker 4>money to stop being a thing. There you go, there

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<v Speaker 4>you go. Yeah, this is why we're launching cools on

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<v Speaker 4>coin guys for years. It's redeemable for whatever money the

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<v Speaker 4>Ferengi use when they exist.

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<v Speaker 2>We should probably talk about why the stock market is

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<v Speaker 2>doing poor Leah, So I think Robert, you can handle

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<v Speaker 2>this segue.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, wait, what is that? Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that Mina Wong's theme music by God?

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<v Speaker 7>Locks right, jasp, locking.

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<v Speaker 5>Locking, jasp.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, that was a great purchase, you guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>can we all agree with every penny?

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<v Speaker 2>Really was the best financial partise we've made is the

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<v Speaker 2>tariff talk theme. Thought, it's gonna get so much mileage

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<v Speaker 2>out of that thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an un I'm gonna be using this fucker for

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<v Speaker 4>years at least something good came of face. When you're

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<v Speaker 4>struggling to get by with your family, just remember the song.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this will keep you warm as you huddle

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<v Speaker 3>around a barrel waiting for the uh, the new police,

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<v Speaker 3>which are just called murder police to reach your shanty

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<v Speaker 3>down anyway, Pah.

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<v Speaker 6>Let us talk tariffs. Power. Sections of the left have

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<v Speaker 6>long argued is in logistics. It was logistics that allowed

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<v Speaker 6>the capitalists of the nineteen seventies and eighties to crush

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<v Speaker 6>the labor movements by enacting the so called spatial fix

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<v Speaker 6>to the Crisis of capitalism by shifting production from countries

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<v Speaker 6>where workers' movements were strong to countries where violence against

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<v Speaker 6>workers was easier, and workers were thus poorer and more exploited.

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<v Speaker 6>CEOs could pit workers against each other in an endless

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<v Speaker 6>race to the bottom. These practices became known as offshoring.

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<v Speaker 6>Infused with the international attack on unions and the power

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<v Speaker 6>of workers heralded in the US by Reagan, together they

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<v Speaker 6>crushed the workers' movement and implemented neoliberal austerity throughout the

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<v Speaker 6>globe through a regime that is colloquially known as free trade.

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<v Speaker 6>Now there was, of course resistance to this, maybe most

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<v Speaker 6>famously the uprising of the Zapatistas and Chiapas in nineteen

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<v Speaker 6>ninety four on the day the NAFTA went into effect.

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<v Speaker 6>But for all of the victories and all of the

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<v Speaker 6>spaces that were carved out, it is still the CEOs,

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<v Speaker 6>the bosses, and the capitalists to rule the world. However,

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<v Speaker 6>in the wake of their defeat, sections of the working

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<v Speaker 6>class came to see their own power as a product

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<v Speaker 6>of the nation of masculinity of American jobs. For American workers,

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<v Speaker 6>in this view, you didn't need to form a union,

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<v Speaker 6>you didn't need to organize, you didn't need to fight

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<v Speaker 6>the boss who exploit you. All you needed to do

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<v Speaker 6>for the high paying blue collar jobs of the nineteen

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<v Speaker 6>sixties to return was getting rid of the immigrants and

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<v Speaker 6>bring jobs back home. This American nationalist ideology was extremely

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<v Speaker 6>useful to the ruling class. It allowed them to turn

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<v Speaker 6>the rhetoric of the old base of the workers' movement

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<v Speaker 6>into a fascist movement, which they could then use to

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<v Speaker 6>smash any genuine worker struggle and then ride to power

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<v Speaker 6>to impose more brutal austerity and more pro capitalist reforms, too,

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<v Speaker 6>in their view, make it impossible for their power ever

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<v Speaker 6>to be challenged again. But a strange thing happened in

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<v Speaker 6>the nationalism bred by the defeat of the worker's movement.

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<v Speaker 6>The human personifications of the capitalist bubble economy in Donald

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<v Speaker 6>Trump and Elon Musk, have come to see their own

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<v Speaker 6>victory as defeat. They became convinced that the trade deficits,

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<v Speaker 6>which from a capitalist's perspective, simply do not matter as

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<v Speaker 6>long as companies are making money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yes, they no better for shit? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Juse the fuck we're calling a trade deficit? Is us

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<v Speaker 3>getting things we want from people?

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, yeah, it's buying stuff Like I saw a

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<v Speaker 4>good post. It was like, you don't have a trade

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<v Speaker 4>deficit with your dentist. You just pay them to fix

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<v Speaker 4>your teeth. Like, yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was told at one point in this nation's greatest

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<v Speaker 3>living previous moment of crisis, that what we needed to

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<v Speaker 3>do was go buy things to make it better.

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<v Speaker 6>Not anymore, buddy, Nope, because because these people, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 6>and Elon Musk and the cadra of weird white nationals

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<v Speaker 6>fanatics sets around them have absolutely convinced themselves that if

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<v Speaker 6>you have a trade deficit, you are being ripped off

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<v Speaker 6>by foreigners.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 6>And so they concluded that we needed to put tariffs

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<v Speaker 6>on fucking all of the rest of the world in

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<v Speaker 6>order to bring American jobs back to Americans. A new

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<v Speaker 6>national autarchy for a fascist world. Now, the ruling class,

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<v Speaker 6>all the capitalists, all these fucking goddamn Golden Sax, motherfucker

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<v Speaker 6>financial analysts, all of these CMBC dipshits, all of these

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<v Speaker 6>fucking all these motherfuckers at black Rock and all of

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<v Speaker 6>the global hedge funds, and all of these all these motherfuckers,

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<v Speaker 6>all of the tech dipshits, all of the people who

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<v Speaker 6>backed Trump to a hilt, simply assumed that none of

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<v Speaker 6>these hairs would ever happen, that it was all campaign bluster,

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<v Speaker 6>that he was lying out of his ass. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Obama again I've said this before, ran an abolishing NAFTA.

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<v Speaker 6>So there was you know, and what the fuck ever

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<v Speaker 6>came from that, right? We of course fucking tried to

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<v Speaker 6>tell them otherwise. We tried to tell them that they

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<v Speaker 6>could not fucking control the fascist beasts, that one day

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<v Speaker 6>it would rise to consume them all along with us.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't care. They backed Trump anyways because they thought

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<v Speaker 6>they would get fucking tax breaks. And now Liberation Day

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<v Speaker 6>is here.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't forget Crypto. They were really bulletshot back.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, all of these motherfuckers. They really thought that

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<v Speaker 6>Trump was going to fucking that. Literally, all Trump was

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<v Speaker 6>going to do was punish the transgenders, get rid of woke,

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<v Speaker 6>and give them tax cuts.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm yep.

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<v Speaker 6>And now if the terrorfalls have gone up, the old

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<v Speaker 6>world is dead, the new world struggles to be. Now

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<v Speaker 6>is the time of monsters.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're in what I'm what I'm referring to as

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese Century. I came up with this this this

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<v Speaker 2>week on my own.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, hmm yeah, good.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's that's of course named after Chinatown in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 3>which Garrison is very bullish about. Uh, positive, positive real

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<v Speaker 3>estate developments there. Uh, you're big into real estate. People

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that.

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<v Speaker 6>Chinese real estate absolutely where you want to be right now,

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<v Speaker 6>both both in Chinatown and in actual China. You put

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<v Speaker 6>all your money in the Chinese real estate. The bubble

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<v Speaker 6>can't pop a second time, can only go back up.

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<v Speaker 4>It does.

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<v Speaker 3>There were so many like enemies on the verge of

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<v Speaker 3>defeat in like the traditional US geopolitical sense, like China's

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<v Speaker 3>economy is doing great, Russia could have been easily pushed

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<v Speaker 3>to collapse, and we were just like, na, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what's better. We're gonna shoot ourselves right in

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<v Speaker 3>the dick.

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<v Speaker 4>We've snatched defeat from the get ourselves in a dick

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<v Speaker 4>with a bullet. That venmos, both of you guys. It's great.

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<v Speaker 4>We dug up the Cold War, resurrected it and then lost. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>just to lose. Yeah, Yeah, it's beautiful. You can't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's so.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sort of like Michael Jackson coming back for Space

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<v Speaker 3>Jam if he had immediately like fucking thrown a basketball

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<v Speaker 3>so hard at a bugs bunny skull that it put

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<v Speaker 3>him at traction.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, wait, did you just say Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 4>Jordan didn't, Okay, Jordan, you just said jacks Well, definitely,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, leave it in different, different movie, maybe better.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he always he always performed well around kids.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>God, Yeah, I love Space Jam.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good movie. Anymore. Garrit said, it's forevitainted.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, so let's let's talk about the nature of like

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<v Speaker 3>what's actually going down with these terrors.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's get to the tariff's terrible, terrifable, terrifable. That's right, Garrison.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So okay, so let me let me, let me

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<v Speaker 6>just let me just read off some of the ones

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<v Speaker 6>that are going to fuck everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Great.

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<v Speaker 6>Fifty four percent tariff on all goods from China. This

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<v Speaker 6>is a third four percent tariff that is being added

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<v Speaker 6>on to the twenty percent tariff that was already on.

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<v Speaker 6>There is a twenty percent tariff on all goods from

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<v Speaker 6>the EU, forty six percent on Vietnam, which is fucking

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<v Speaker 6>devastating because there's a huge amount of capital from China.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, speaking of the China panic, our strongest geopolitical ally

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<v Speaker 4>in the region, like in terms of having a military, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>a contry that we've been discussing going to warfall quite recently.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like we we just we we have literally and

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<v Speaker 6>this is this is the funny thing about all of these.

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<v Speaker 6>Vicky Osto will pointed this out. The more closely allied

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<v Speaker 6>with the US, the more fucked you got by these.

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<v Speaker 4>It's such a weird move.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, twenty four percent tariff on Japan.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it like eighty or ninety percent on fucking Cambodia?

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<v Speaker 6>Why, yeah, yeah, yeah, So what we'll get to why

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<v Speaker 6>in a second. I want to also cover So there's

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<v Speaker 6>there's a thirty seven percent teriff on Bangladesh, which is

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<v Speaker 6>going to be devastating for I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>textile imports. Twenty five percent on South Korea, so fucking

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<v Speaker 6>you ever getting a phone again? On Taiwan, so rip

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<v Speaker 6>the entire tech industry. Fucking rip Taiwan too. These tariffs

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<v Speaker 6>are going to devastate the international economy.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>I have been angry about this since the fucking election.

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<v Speaker 6>People have been calling these tariffs attacks. That is just no,

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<v Speaker 6>it is not what's happening here. This is like calling

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<v Speaker 6>it a tax is to completely underplay how serious this is.

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<v Speaker 6>This is not a fucking tax. This is the wholesale

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<v Speaker 6>destruction of entire industries. And some of these industries like

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<v Speaker 6>fast fashion, which you know has always been undergirded by

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<v Speaker 6>the exploitation of workers from China to Bangladeshi and also

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<v Speaker 6>like in the US two but like, you know, fuck

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<v Speaker 6>those things whatever, they never needed to exist. Fuck them.

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<v Speaker 6>But like you know, like you're probably not gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>able to fucking buy board games anymore because they're going

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<v Speaker 6>to be too expensive to produce.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's gonna shatter games like tabletop gaming.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's done. Like the economy as we

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<v Speaker 6>knew it does not exist as of like this morning, right,

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<v Speaker 6>everything that we've known about how this thing works is

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<v Speaker 6>fucking done. And some of these are just you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like unbelievably hideously cruel. So, for example, a forty four

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<v Speaker 6>percent terriff on me and Mark, which you know is

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<v Speaker 6>a country, yeah, devastated by a horrific war wage for

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<v Speaker 6>a brutal dictatorship and also fucking suffering from a catastrophic earthquake,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're like, fuck you eat shit. Forty four percent

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<v Speaker 6>tariff also embargoed.

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<v Speaker 4>No, like we've seized their government assets in the United States, Like, yep,

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<v Speaker 4>it's one of like Diego Garcia for instance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there's well it's on the British Indian Ocean Territory,

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<v Speaker 3>which collective population is primarily US soldiers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like Christmas Island is on there, like yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's one more that I want to talk about,

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<v Speaker 6>which is that so Sri Lanka has been suffering from

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<v Speaker 6>an unbelievably devastating series of economic crises, and they're getting

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<v Speaker 6>hit with a forty four percent fucking tariff in a

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<v Speaker 6>moment when like they already haven't had enough dollars to

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<v Speaker 6>fucking import fuel for their economy to function. So this

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<v Speaker 6>is going to be devastating not just for US, but

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<v Speaker 6>for a whole bunch of people across the world. So

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<v Speaker 6>this is the other aspect of this too that's really

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<v Speaker 6>fucking brutal, is that for the US, Right, we don't

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<v Speaker 6>need other countries' money, We don't need to have piles

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<v Speaker 6>of any other countries's money around, Right, we can just

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<v Speaker 6>buy things in American dollars. But if you are Sri Lanka,

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<v Speaker 6>you need American dollars to buy oil. Yes, there are

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<v Speaker 6>so many fucking things that you could only buy in

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<v Speaker 6>American dollars. And when these TIFFs go up, when the

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<v Speaker 6>prices increase, and when they can't fucking sell their stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>that means that they don't have dollars, and that means

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<v Speaker 6>that they can't get access to a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 6>the vital commodities that they need to survive. And this

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<v Speaker 6>is just going to fucking devastate them. And I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's been an angle that I really wanted to make

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<v Speaker 6>sure we talked about, because it's been I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 6>any fucking mention of it at all, even though those

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<v Speaker 6>are the people who are going to suffer the most

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<v Speaker 6>in this are people who are already completely on the

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<v Speaker 6>fucking edge, whose economies have already been collapsed. You've already

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<v Speaker 6>been so brutally exploited by these same fucking people, and

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<v Speaker 6>they're just fucked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep. You know, we always say we know like to reefs,

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<v Speaker 4>but we do like these ads. We're back. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel great about that.

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<v Speaker 6>But now there is a funny part of all of this.

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<v Speaker 6>There is some fun here good, which is okay. So

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<v Speaker 6>one of the big questions about the tariffs was how

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<v Speaker 6>were they going to calculate the tariffs on all of

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<v Speaker 6>these countries right because they were saying that their terroriffs

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<v Speaker 6>were going to be a projection of like currency manipulation

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<v Speaker 6>and like value added taxes and like all of these

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<v Speaker 6>like like subsidies to vital industries and you know, And

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<v Speaker 6>the question again was like literally, how can they possibly

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<v Speaker 6>cockyate the tariff rates of hundreds of different countries and

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<v Speaker 6>taking into account all these things right now? The news

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<v Speaker 6>have been making a couple of weeks ago was that

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<v Speaker 6>they were going to do brackets. What they actually appear

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<v Speaker 6>to have done is ask check GVT.

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<v Speaker 3>It's entire people have like reverse engineered the prompts. It's

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<v Speaker 3>almost directly just the schatchy probably shit, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 3>different engines that give almost identical responses, but it's probably it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing that they're doing the same ship as like my

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<v Speaker 4>undergraduates and the people are doing the same shit. Sure

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<v Speaker 4>you're undergraduates. Spends a little more time trying to add it.

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<v Speaker 4>Ja most of them a smart enough to to like

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<v Speaker 4>had it a little bit so that you can't put

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<v Speaker 4>prompt into chat GPT and find it. Yeah, So that

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<v Speaker 4>my lowest effa undergrads.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to give a lot of credit to the

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<v Speaker 6>economist James Surohreki, who's the guy who figured out their formula.

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<v Speaker 6>So their formula and this is drawing for something. I

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<v Speaker 6>mean I saw it from from James first. Uh, But

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<v Speaker 6>like so their formula is literally just you take a

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<v Speaker 6>country's trade deficit with the US. And it's also important

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<v Speaker 6>to note here that they're not counting services. They're only

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<v Speaker 6>counting goods. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, again, if if you're missing the products and just

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<v Speaker 3>getting in services, that's half the economy as I understand it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, especially provides an enormous number of services. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>But these people are fucking fascists and so they don't

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<v Speaker 6>they don't think that like the services are fucking real, right,

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's the same ideology that undergirds the whole thing

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<v Speaker 6>about like service workers not being fucking real work.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, the only real job is that one video of

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<v Speaker 4>a guy wrestling with an oil Derek.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is the only job.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the manager and was just doing that for

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<v Speaker 4>the video and was doing it very wrong. You've got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Take some pieces of metal, move them around to where

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<v Speaker 2>they're not supposed to go. That's that's when you're a real.

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<v Speaker 4>Labor, labor that's working. Only jobs are things where you

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<v Speaker 4>wear safety to boots and well and and and.

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<v Speaker 6>That's and that's the thing that because like their image

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<v Speaker 6>of the world is is the fascist image of the world,

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<v Speaker 6>and the fascist image of the world, like labor is

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<v Speaker 6>just masculinity. Yeah, and that's like that's why they're fucking

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<v Speaker 6>doing it like this, and so you know, and so

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<v Speaker 6>so the fascists have asked chat GPT how to do tariffs,

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<v Speaker 6>and what they got is again, so do they take

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<v Speaker 6>the country's trade deficit and divide it by their total

0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.040
<v Speaker 6>experts in the US? Now, this is nothing, right, like

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<v Speaker 6>in economic terms, that's not how you do anything. This

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<v Speaker 6>is this is not a real thing like this is

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<v Speaker 6>this is like trying to measure someone's height by like

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<v Speaker 6>dividing their favorite number by the average radius of an apple.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's literally at you know, what are we what

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<v Speaker 4>are you coming after me?

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<v Speaker 1>Here?

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<v Speaker 4>Look just because I'm imagined differently.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, there is no scientific basis Robert for for for

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<v Speaker 6>measuring height by dividing favorite number by apple radius. We

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<v Speaker 6>simply must accept the truth of science.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you say, Joe Rogan, and I feel it everently.

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<v Speaker 2>The dictatorship of chat GPT is just it's so bleak.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's just they asked chat GPT.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a mix of they don't actually care or think

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<v Speaker 3>this will affect them, and also they legitimately think it's

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<v Speaker 3>the smartest person in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's smarter than them. Yeah, it would just

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a good thing, but not in this instant.

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<v Speaker 6>Well well, and you can you can tell the extent

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<v Speaker 6>to which they were relying on this and didn't cancnate

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<v Speaker 6>themselves because so after after it started to spread that

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<v Speaker 6>this is just how they were doing its James Suroreki

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<v Speaker 6>like calculated it. The White House said no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>hold on, no, no, no, no, that's not right. We

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<v Speaker 6>use an actual complex formula, and so they released a

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 6>fake formula. But I think about the formula, right, is

0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:17.000
<v Speaker 6>that the formula is just it is literally just trade

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<v Speaker 6>deficit divided by total exports. But they threw in two

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<v Speaker 6>random variables as Greek letters. But there's one on the top,

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<v Speaker 6>but there's one of the numerated, one of those denominator

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<v Speaker 6>and they're the same so they can't sell each other out.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds right to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you know they're smart. It's because they're using

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<v Speaker 2>Greek letters.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, which Greek letters did they use? And which person's

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<v Speaker 4>fraternity does it represent?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even speak Greek letters, so they are They

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<v Speaker 3>must be smarter than me, you know what, I rescind

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<v Speaker 3>my complaints.

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<v Speaker 6>This is how the economy dies, not through tragedy but

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<v Speaker 6>through farce.

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<v Speaker 4>It's both. Yeah, tragic fuss, I think is what Marx

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<v Speaker 4>cold is. A lot of people are gonna die, you know, And.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, like, like, my actual serious line on this

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<v Speaker 6>is that this is the great double bind of capitalism,

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<v Speaker 6>is that we are all reliant simultaneously, We are reliant

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<v Speaker 6>for our survival on the same economy that will make

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<v Speaker 6>us all homeless, right is the same economy that we

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<v Speaker 6>need to fucking eat every single day. That even in

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<v Speaker 6>good times, this economy fucking strips from us the value

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.240
<v Speaker 6>of the labor we produce and hands us back a

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<v Speaker 6>bunch of fucking scraps that pay for not enough of

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<v Speaker 6>anything that we need. So even as our enemies, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>terror part the system that exploits us, we are the

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<v Speaker 6>fucking ones who's going to suffer. Neoliberalism finally has in

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<v Speaker 6>Trump produced its own grave digger, and our fucking job

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<v Speaker 6>and the job of every single one of us and

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 6>every single person listening to this show is to make

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<v Speaker 6>sure that we also aren't the ones thrown into this

0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 6>fucking grave. And this is going to require a kind

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<v Speaker 6>of organizing that is in some ways like but in

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 6>some ways unlike anything we've done before. We are we're

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<v Speaker 6>about to experience a level of unbelievable economic chaos that

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<v Speaker 6>we sort of saw during twenty twenty. But during twenty

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.280
<v Speaker 6>twenty there was you know, as bad as everything got,

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<v Speaker 6>the state stepped in and decided to do welfare reforms,

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<v Speaker 6>right like, they gave people a bunch of fucking money. Yeah,

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 6>and it wasn't enough, but they did it. Now, none

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 6>of that shit. He are the only people who are

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 6>going to be able to keep each other alive. And

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 6>that's that's what we have to be doing right now,

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 6>is we have to be keeping each other alive until

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<v Speaker 6>we are organized enough and we are powerful enough to

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<v Speaker 6>fucking run these people out so they can't ever fuck

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<v Speaker 6>us again like this, so.

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<v Speaker 2>We can resurrect neo liberal globalism. We can restore free trade, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, that's right, and bring it back to the Clinton era.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh god. One last thing we should mention is that

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<v Speaker 6>like this is already united the entire world against us. Effectively,

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<v Speaker 6>people countries who have never worked together before in their

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<v Speaker 6>entire existence are working together.

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<v Speaker 3>And unfortunately, Poles also show Americans can distrust or the

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<v Speaker 3>tendency to view like Canadians and the EU as enemies

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<v Speaker 3>is rising both Republicans and Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that's great. That's great, cool cool, cool cool

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<v Speaker 4>cool cool cool.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. And also you know, and like the thing, the thing,

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<v Speaker 6>the other thing that we have to do here, and

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<v Speaker 6>this is this is literally our responsibility on this podcast

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<v Speaker 6>and also just ability of like fucking everyone who was

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<v Speaker 6>having conversations with another person is that this is entirely

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<v Speaker 6>Trump's fault. He fucking did this. Like, oh yeah, this

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<v Speaker 6>is not fucking the EU or whatever the fuck whoever's

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<v Speaker 6>doing retalitory show.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is this is no one else ever wanted this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, no, like the people who put Trump in

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<v Speaker 6>power didn't want this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just him.

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<v Speaker 6>And so yeah, the the actual solution to this is

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<v Speaker 6>all of us running this fucker out and not us

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<v Speaker 6>getting drawn into his fucking bullshit wars with Canada or

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<v Speaker 6>Greenland or whatever the fuck country he decides to invade

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<v Speaker 6>in the next year.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that all for tariff talk?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's all we got on the terrace.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what else to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just I'm just looking at the numbers

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<v Speaker 3>right now where the Dow Industrial is down a fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>hundred points since the start of the day, So it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Things are looking very good.

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<v Speaker 7>Yea.

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<v Speaker 3>All of the lines, like if you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>in which the line went down, there's like it's just this.

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<v Speaker 4>Direct vertical drop on the third Yep, it's shocking. So

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<v Speaker 4>it is a ninety degree angle.

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<v Speaker 6>It is legitimately if you set the Google stock viewer

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<v Speaker 6>thing to a one day view, the drop is so

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<v Speaker 6>shocking that it looks like it just started down.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it prompts you to turn your phone in the

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<v Speaker 4>other direction. I've never seen anything like it, but I

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<v Speaker 4>guess no one has. Yeah, no, I mean some of us.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess people still alive in the nineteen thirties. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>Woody Guthrie has fucking grandma. I guess, like, Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>We did it in the nineteen thirties. It was bad

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<v Speaker 4>then and it's bad now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now that we got those pesky tariffs out of

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<v Speaker 2>the way, let's talk about the actual most important thing

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<v Speaker 2>to happen this week. In the news, New Jersey Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Cory Booker has broken the record for the longest yea

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five hours in five minutes. Yeah, that's horrible, beating

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<v Speaker 2>Strom Thurman's filibuster of the nineteen fifty seven Civil Rights

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<v Speaker 2>Bill by forty six minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>We did it. Vokes excellent, outstanding, good. I'm just checking

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<v Speaker 4>on Ah Wall Street bets and they're having a real

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<v Speaker 4>one today.

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<v Speaker 6>That's pretty I will say. I will say the thing

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<v Speaker 6>about the Booker won. So if you were writing a

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<v Speaker 6>parody of the Democratic Party, you would write that Corey

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<v Speaker 6>Booker did this and like, did this filibuster and then

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<v Speaker 6>immediately turned around and voted yes for a cloture vote

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<v Speaker 6>to allow Trump to appoint another nominee. And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 6>what they did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we can't even you.

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<v Speaker 6>Can't perry to them. It's beyond parody. I like, it's astounding,

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<v Speaker 6>it's astonishing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even a filibuster. He's not filibuster or anything.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't actively stop anything happening other than people not

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<v Speaker 4>paying attention to it. I got a response from someone

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 4>being like, well, you know, they didn't get to do

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<v Speaker 4>anything on Monday, and I was like, yeah, they weren't

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<v Speaker 4>really planning on it and things continued as normal.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, And you know, and here's the thing about that, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>do you know how many Democrats there are in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you know how many hours you could filibuster them

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<v Speaker 6>for if you were actually determined to fucking do this,

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<v Speaker 6>and on how many different things.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a rotating series of Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, show it if you tag teamed it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but they're not They're not willing to fucking do it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and they'd be stopped eventually the Republicans would do

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<v Speaker 3>something fucked up to stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>But at least you'd have tried, Yeah, yeah, and people

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<v Speaker 4>would maybe take some fucking energy from that. And even

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 4>if you were gonna do this as a fucking show

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 4>vote thing, you could have voted no one the cloture

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 4>motion to like fucking do the to like appoint the

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 4>next nominee. But they're just like no, fuck you.

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<v Speaker 2>Mention the fact that Chuck Schumer caved on the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>budget from a few weeks ago. Yeah, and secretly got

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>a number of Democratic senators just which their votes to

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>make it pass. Yeah, and no one did this for

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 2>for that which which previously Democrats were talking about this

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 2>budget bill like it's the worst thing to ever happen

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>because it is a bad bill. Yeah, it's really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they just caved last minute, or specifically Schumer

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 2>and the people he talked to caved. And Schumer definitely

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>would not have been in supportive of Booker doing something

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>like this for that bill. But now Schumer gets to

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 2>applaud along as as Booker delivers a twenty five hour

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 2>maybe like well orated speech, but it was.

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 4>A very well written speech. Like technically it was good,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 4>but that didn't matter.

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just this pure show of like symbolic theater.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what's the point.

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 3>It's like if a congress person got out and conducted

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<v Speaker 3>like a perfect rendition of the Nutcracker like symphony of

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 3>like the ballet portion of that on their own in

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 3>front of like the Capitol building, Like, well, it's impressive,

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 3>it's spectacle, Like you're clearly very good at what you're doing,

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 3>but it didn't change anything, like it had no impact

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<v Speaker 3>on the problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, yeah, like you're good. I'll give you that.

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Corey Booker can deliver a fucking speech, but that was

0:27:56.000 --> 0:28:00.719
<v Speaker 4>really not what I was looking for. Yeah, fiddling impressively burned,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks Corey.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and every single moment the Trump is in power,

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<v Speaker 6>the way the way that they fucking just rolled over

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 6>for him looks worse and.

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<v Speaker 4>Worse because he said, I failed, and so did we.

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 4>We didn't rise to the moment, and we let this

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<v Speaker 4>horrible thing happen, which I even I got a little briefly.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh shit, maybe he actually recognizes like, no, okay, well.

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Because it took him like twenty hours to like break

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>emotionally to the point where he could like admit that

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<v Speaker 2>to himself.

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 4>His deep, deep deep failed.

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but like it took having your brain be

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 2>be shattered by this like pretty impressive physical act that

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>like destroys your body, soul and spirit. And anyway, I

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>think that's all we have to say about that. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go on and ad break and come back to discuss

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>more sad and I'll actually also possibly good news or

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 2>at least bad for Elon Musk which is good for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, we are back.

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<v Speaker 2>I think let's pivot to James Stout for an update

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<v Speaker 2>on Venezuela. Well, no El Salvador, Salvador the torture labor prison.

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<v Speaker 2>James m hm.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course. We have to begin my segment today by

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<v Speaker 4>saying tepe rosbi to Abdullah Ojulen, whose birthday it is

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 4>on the day that you are hearing this. So if

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 4>you want to plant, if you want to plant a

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 4>tree for appo, get it. Get out there and plant

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 4>your tree. Unfortunately, that is the only good news we

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 4>have today. Border Patrol to spend most of this week

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 4>touting the quote lowest number of border crossings in history.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 4>It will shocked listeners to hear that this is not

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 4>historically accurate. Bordering counters are way down. If there's one

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 4>thing that I have ever taught you, it is that

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 4>bordering counters are not the same as unique ind visuals

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 4>because people are being sent directly back to Mexico and

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 4>will tend to return attempting a different route crossing the border. Right,

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 4>there's our way down. And they're the lowest since they

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 4>began publishing monthly data in two thousand. But numbers were

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 4>wailer in the fifties and sixties and before then. It's

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 4>relatively immaterial. It's just sort of a nipiggy point. I

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 4>guess today, what I really want to talk about is

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<v Speaker 4>the case of mister Kilmar Abragor Garcia. He was removed

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 4>by the Trump administration to els Albador to Secot in

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 4>a way that they have admitted was a mistake. So

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 4>we have to go back a little bit to understand

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 4>mister Abergo Garcia's story and how we got here. He

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>was arrested in mid March due to the United States

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 4>government claim that he played a quote prominent role in

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 4>MS thirteen. MS thirteen being the Salvadorean gang. He'd come

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 4>to the United States in twenty eleven he was fleeing

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 4>gang violence. He was allegedly arrested in twenty nineteen outside

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 4>a home depot where he was standing with other men

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 4>looking for work. However, the incident report for that particular

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 4>incident gives other names, but not his. At that point,

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 4>a Prince George's County Police Department detective filled out a

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 4>quote gang worksheet and claimed that mister Abergogarcia was associated

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 4>with a member of MS thirteen. The evidence he cited

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 4>for this was a Chicago bulls hoodie and the claim

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 4>of a confidential informant. The competition informant claimed that he

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 4>was part of a group within this gang that was

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 4>set up in a state that mister Abergagarcia had never

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 4>lived in the United States. In twenty nineteen, Ice argued

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 4>that he shouldn't be given bond because of this alleged

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 4>gang membership right, and so he wasn't given bond, but

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 4>through an asylum claim. Although he didn't get asylum, he

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 4>was protected from removal right, so a judge ruled that

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 4>he couldn't be removed back to El Salvador, where he

0:31:55.280 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 4>would presumably face violence. When mister Abergogarcia's lawyers tried to

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 4>interview the police detective who had filed this report accusing

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 4>him of gang membership, they found no record of his

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 4>rest and that the detective has been suspended since then.

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 4>The department question also settled a lawsuit with its own

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 4>corps over racism in the department. JD Vance, who has

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<v Speaker 4>a law degree right the JD is I guess before

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 4>and after his name. He has a law degree from Harvard,

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 4>has claimed that mister Abergo Garcia is a convicted member

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 4>of MS thirteen. This is not true. I can't find

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 4>any evidence he has any conviction of any kind. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to quote here from a filing by the United

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 4>States government on the fifteenth of March. Although ICE was

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 4>aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrigo

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 4>Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 4>So the government there has admitted in a court filing

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 4>that they accidentally sent this guide to the prison labor

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 4>camp in El Salvador. Right, according to ICE acting field

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 4>Officer Robert Cerner quote, he was an alternate as others

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 4>were removed from the flight for versarious reasons. He moved

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 4>up the list and was assigned to the flight. So

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 4>it appears that they had a large list of people

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 4>they wanted to put on this flight. This is interesting, right,

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 4>It's an insight into their process fulfilling that first flight

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 4>that they some people they cally didn't feel they had

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 4>enough evidence for. But somehow this guy, who again has

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 4>never been convicted of having any membership of any gang,

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 4>they put on this flight. Right, His wife and child

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 4>are both US citizens and they have sued in court.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 4>That's why we're seeing this, right. They've sued for the

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 4>United States government to stop paying El Salvador for his

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 4>detention and for the United States government to demand he returned.

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 4>Vance has advanced a kind of unique legal theory in response,

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 4>claiming that withholding of removal only prevent someone being deported

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 4>back to their home state. I mean you could technically

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 4>that is what the withholding is, right, Like, it's like,

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 4>he can't go back to El Salvador because he will

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 4>be at risk in El Salvador. So so they can

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 4>deport him to a third state. But they deported him

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 4>to Well Salvador, or renditioned him to Well Salvador. Right,

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I want to read JD. Vance's post here. I'm not

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 4>going to read the whole thing, but I'll start with

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 4>the second paragraph. In twenty nineteen Immigration judge parentheses under

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 4>the Biden administration. For those of you who are familiar

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 4>with dates, it's at twenty nineteen, was under the first

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Trump administration. That was that was the Trump administration. Yeah,

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 4>moving on, determined that the deported man was in fact

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.280
<v Speaker 4>a member of the MS thirteen gang. He also apparently

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 4>had multiple traffic violations for which he failed to appear

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 4>in court, a real winner. It is telling that the

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 4>entire American media is going to run a propaganda operation

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 4>today making you think that an innocent quote father of

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 4>three was apprehended by a gulag. Father of three is

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 4>in quotes here, by the way, Yeah, yeah, And gulags

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 4>generally not capable of doing the apprehensions themselves. If we

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 4>think of a gulag as a place, is the police

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 4>who are apprehend the person send them to the gulag.

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Moving on, here are the relevant facts. I'm still quoting.

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 4>The man is an illegal immigrant with no right to

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 4>be in our country. Obviously, the judge determined that he

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 4>was protected from removal. Quoting again an immigration judge during

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 4>the Biden I've been determined he was a member of

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 4>the MS thirteen gang. Again, that's not the case.

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 6>It's staggering the extent to which they can say a

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 6>sentence where every single individual word is a lie. Like stunning.

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Yeah.

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>The fact that so many members of the Modern Republican

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Party have like memory hold twenty nineteen to twenty twenty

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 2>as being under the biden In administration is just insane.

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's bizarre. I think what they're referring to is

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 4>that the initial hearing right where he was denied BOMB

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 4>was in twenty nineteen, and then he filed his asylum

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 4>claim and later was protected from removal. But that's not

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 4>what they're saying here.

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>But like even the way they talk about, like the

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>COVID response, they talk about it as if Joe Biden

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>was the president.

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.760
<v Speaker 3>They're not gonna lock us down again. But you locked

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 3>us down, Yeah, who did that? And then the last one,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it's most rebelatory because he's not a citizen.

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 3>He does not get full jury trial by peers. In

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.760
<v Speaker 3>other words, whatever due process he was entitled to he received,

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 3>the immigration court doesn't generally present the opportunity for a

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 3>jury trial. Right once again holds a JdE and he

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 3>presumably knows this. What's more disturbing is the claim made

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 3>by the United States government in its filing in this

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 3>lawsuit that the Abergo Garcia family filed quote because plaintiffs

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 3>conceived that Abergogarcia is not in the United States custody,

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 3>this court cannot hear these claims. So they're claiming that

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 3>no US court has jurisdiction over the question of these

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 3>people who are in El Salvador because they're not in

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 3>US custody, right, which obviously if they stick the landing

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 3>on this, it suggests that like it is a one

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 3>way ticket to the prison labor camp, right, that you

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 3>cannot challenge that in US court, and you ain't going

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 3>to get very far in court in El Salvador.

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Right. So what they're suggesting here is this, this is

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 4>a forever detention, that there is no habeas right. That

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:00.959
<v Speaker 4>was they were asking for, Hey, colpus.

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Can you spen my haabest Corpus actually is for the listeners.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it means bring me the body, right in this

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 4>case is.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have to present evidence in order to charge

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>like convict people and things.

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like the cnequa non of having a justice system,

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 4>a criminal justice show something. Yeah, you can't just be

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 4>like bad man and then put the guy in jail.

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 3>The most basic thing is that like, yeah, I mean

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 3>in literal terms, it means you have to like actually

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 3>take somebody in front of a court in order to

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 3>determine if they're like being detained for a reason, right,

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Like a judge has to see them and say like, yes,

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 3>this is this is not an unlawful imprisonment. There is

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 3>a charge, there is some degree of evidence that somebody

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 3>did something.

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Right, which they have not provided here.

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Right, not that like you can prove they did it,

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>but like something was done and you are here for

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 3>that for a reason.

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so in this case, we we don't have any

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 4>of that. Mister Abrigo Garcia is still the way his

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 4>family found out he was in second was that his

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 4>wife identified him by scars on his head when they

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 4>shaved it, and at tattoo they saw Jesus Christ. Yeah,

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 4>they had no idea. It presumably doesn't come up on

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 4>the ICE detainee locator. You know that you're going to

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 4>look up your family members and if your family members

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 4>are detained by ICE, doesn't have L Salvador as an option.

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, this is where we're at. This is a

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.399
<v Speaker 4>case I will be following, right because I say it's

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 4>pretty pivotal. If they can argue that the court doesn't

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.399
<v Speaker 4>have jurisdiction. Obviously, I'm sure at that point that ruling

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 4>will be challenged and it will run up the courts. Currently,

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:35.879
<v Speaker 4>it seems like the only court they're going to listen

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 4>to is a Supreme court. But evidently that this is

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 4>what they're going for, Like, this is their argument here

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 4>that once you're in l salbad or you're out of

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 4>their hands and they can't do anything. So sorry, even

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 4>though it was a mistake, you're stuck there forever, which

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 4>is pretty disturbing.

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Yesterday, me and James did an episode on ICE's targeting

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 2>of students at scholars and professors that they believe are

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 2>associated with Palestine protests. So we did an update on

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 2>that story that I did a peace on or a

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>segment down last week on executive disorder. So for a

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>follow up on that, you can look to yesterday's episode.

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>But we are going to close with I guess kind

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 2>of a feel good story because it makes Elon Musk sad.

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 2>He has had a bit of a bit of a

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>rough week for mister Musk's businesses and his political projects.

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess Elon Musk's efforts to buy the Wisconsin Supreme

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Court have failed, as the Democratic backed candidate swept the election,

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 2>maintaining four to three Liberal control of the Supreme Court

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 2>of Wisconsin.

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the gist of it is of like three

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 4>or four days ago, all of my friends from who

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 4>are Scani's got furious because Elon Musk wore a cheesehead,

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, like the ones for the packers that the

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 4>people from Wisconsin ware when they're at games while he

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 4>got up on stage and gave of a million dollars.

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 3>Basically immediately before, like about little less than a week ago,

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 3>a higher court ruled that it was not bribery for

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 3>him to offer people a million dollars at random if

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 3>they voted or showed up at like you know, different

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 3>rallies and stuff, which is like what he's been doing, right,

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 3>is making these basically fake offers of a million dollars

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 3>because these two went to members of the local Republican party,

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 3>like it was clearly set up.

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the head of the College Republicans of Wisconsin, amazing

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.439
<v Speaker 2>must fish twenty five million dollars leads on this race.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 2>He danced around on stage wearing a cheesehead, and he

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 2>gave out million dollar novelty checks to quote unquote voters

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 2>who won a contest by signing his petition against activist judges.

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Which has been the new rallying cry on the right

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>is that everything that's going wrong, everything that's stopping Trump,

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 2>is from these active studges that we have to unseat.

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>He also gave one hundred dollars each to every person

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 2>who signed that petition, and on election day, Musk offered

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 2>voters fifty dollars if they posted a picture of a

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin resident outside of a polling place. How is that allowed?

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>These are the same people who scream about like election interference,

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 2>rigging elections, buying elections to the elections ed like, like

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 2>this is insane stuff. You can go to jail for

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>giving people a water bottle in line at polling places

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.399
<v Speaker 2>in multiple states. And Musk is allowed to give people

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 2>fifty dollars for pictures posted outside of polling places. What

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the fuck is happening? But luckily, the negative polarization against

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Musk and Tesla that's been increasing the past few months

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 2>has resulted in Judge SUVN. Crawford beating the mega hat

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Republican judge who last year went as Donald Trump for

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Halloween beating this guy by by ten percent. This was

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 2>a massive, massive reversal of the twenty twenty four persential

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>election results in Wisconsin. There was a record high turnout

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>for this spring election, forty percent higher than the last

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin Supreme Court election. Which was in twenty twenty three,

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>which was.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 6>By the way, that was also a high turner election too.

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, yeah, but that that previous one, then this

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 6>one just fucking obliterated it.

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Like this was like just under the results of like

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>what you would expect to out of like a midterm election.

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>They shifted every single county in the state blue compared

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 2>to the twenty twenty four presdential election, and on average

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 2>by about ten to twelve points. Massive, massive chefs.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 6>And this was before the terriiffs, by the way, Yeah,

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 6>like this this was before the terrors announced.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 4>No, this was pure personal dislike of Elon musk meddling

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 4>in Wisconsin politics well like and everything else has happened

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 4>since January, but like it does seem like Elon Musk's

0:42:56.280 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 4>personal presence was a net negative and all the money spin.

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 6>Luckily.

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 2>The next day there was a Tesla sales report which

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 2>was one of the worst in the history of their company,

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent fewer vehicles being delivered in the first three

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 2>months compared to last year, with Tesla's stock continuing to

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 2>plunge the past week, although with reports that that Musk

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 2>might exit the inner circle of the Trump administration. Yeah,

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 2>those stocks are kind of flipping back and forth as

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 2>he's expected to return to his company.

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and who know, like a lot of that's clearly

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 4>the tariffs. Well yes, and then with the tariffs, this

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 4>is a whole other issue, real double whammy for TESLA.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 3>The reporting is that people around Trump have largely soured

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 3>on Musk. Who knows how true that is. There's always

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 3>a lot of like reports from the Trump inner circle

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>that are like, I don't know, it's yeah, he's always

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 3>had a very leaky yeah, but and I can see

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 3>it being multi causal, Like Musk has failed badly in Wisconsin.

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 3>The kind of suspicion right now is that Skibble or

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 3>whatever name is was down about five points relative to

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 3>other MAGA candidates in the same election, which people are

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 3>attributing largely to Musk's intervention.

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, and like they were testing out if he was

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 2>like a stable, consistent, reliable political operator, or if what

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:17.800
<v Speaker 2>he did in twenty twenty four was kind of like

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 2>a one off event, if he's like a one trick

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 2>tony there, and and this this complete like devastating loss

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>demonstrated that maybe this unstable drug addict no offense a

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 2>specifically for Elon Musk, who's railing ketemine all the time

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and trying to run the entire world. Luckily, Luckily, my

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>friends who who might indulge in ketymene don't try to

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 2>run the entire world.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 4>You say that now, but you'll get older at some point.

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 4>It's it's of midlife crisis too.

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 2>But he was shown in like a very public way

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 2>to be to be like an unstable political force. And

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, that's going to turn some of some of

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 2>the people in the Trump admins against him.

0:44:59.160 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.879
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, that's I think that's all I have to say

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 2>about this Wisconsin right Wisconsin race.

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, all right, well I think that's probably an episode.

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 6>Wait ship, hold on, I just I just found the

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 6>funniest fucking thing about this tariff I think i've seen

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 6>yet from fucking.

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 5>Rocking rocking jazz, rocking jazz, rocking jazz.

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 4>Bo Okay, we're back.

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 6>Tarently, the tariffs are not broken down by country. This

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 6>is quote from this guy in VFX on Twitter. They're

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 6>not broken down by country. They're broken down by top

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 6>level Internet domain. It's why the island's populated entirely by penguins.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 6>The dot hm domain. And why the Diego Garcia military

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 6>base Yeah.

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like fucking McDonald's island, yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And why why Renon and Gibraltar our.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah like yeah what love Reunion is part of France.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are we hitting these guys? It's because they use it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>That that that is that that is what a nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>year old who never went to college. My god, but

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<v Speaker 3>thinks he's he understands all of reality would do.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great dictatorship of Chad GPT fucking phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 4>Mynd fucking god, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, look, okay. The note I want to close on

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<v Speaker 6>is that so podcaster Mike Duncan that the creator of

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<v Speaker 6>the Revolutions podcast, a man who has spent literally tens

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<v Speaker 6>of thousands of hours writing about like every revolution that's

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<v Speaker 6>ever happened. At the end of the original run of

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<v Speaker 6>the series Revolutions, he makes this point, which is that

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<v Speaker 6>all revolutions work because they encounter you encounter one of

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<v Speaker 6>the great idiots of history, a man who is blessed

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<v Speaker 6>with with the the the inalienable ability to make the

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<v Speaker 6>wrong decision at every single time. And my god, if

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<v Speaker 6>we can't beat these motherfuckers like it that she's entirely

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<v Speaker 6>on us because we have been handed one of the

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<v Speaker 6>greatest idiots of history that has ever existed in the

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<v Speaker 6>history of humanity, and our fucking job now is to

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<v Speaker 6>turn that into fucking a better world.

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<v Speaker 4>Do something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we'll see the problem is that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of greater idiots out there, and they all do

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<v Speaker 3>still have guns and money. One of the great tragedies

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<v Speaker 3>of the world is that very very stupid people can

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<v Speaker 3>still fire guns.

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<v Speaker 4>We made them too easy, folks. Yeah, I've I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>that happen a couple of times. Yeah, in the old

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<v Speaker 4>conduct of my work.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, all right, well, we reported the news.

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<v Speaker 4>We reported the news.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you go out there and you know what, find

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<v Speaker 3>someone who lives on the Isle of McDonald near the

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<v Speaker 3>Arctic and kick their ass today. Fuck them up, fuck

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<v Speaker 3>that island.

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<v Speaker 4>Do trade with the penguin? Pay ten percent?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, send us a picture of you fighting a

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<v Speaker 3>penguin and we'll make sure you get a hat or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, we'll send you so much. Be reported the news.

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