Speaker 1: Also media.
Speaker 2: This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly
Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling
Speaker 2: economic world, and what this means for you. I'm Garrison Davis.
Speaker 2: I'm joined by Robert Evans, James Stout, and Mio Wong.
Speaker 2: It is a liberation day in America. Everyone. How do
Speaker 2: you feel? I feel liberated.
Speaker 3: Last, free at last, Thank God Almighty, we are free
Speaker 3: at last for being able to afford things.
Speaker 2: I am so so liberated.
Speaker 4: Right now, unchained from a burden of having money.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well, as the Buddhists say, you know, freeing
Speaker 3: yourself from attachment is really the path to nirvana.
Speaker 2: Trump really is our first Buddhist president, is.
Speaker 4: One thing they say about him. That's right.
Speaker 3: He may be the new Dali Lama who can say
Speaker 3: the Dhali Lama and he hasn't but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and the priests who for him after he
Speaker 4: dies when he comes back. This guy's Unfortunately, they're probably
Speaker 4: on a fucking travel band list.
Speaker 3: Now, oh my god, there's I mean, pretty good chance
Speaker 3: they're in ice custody at the moment.
Speaker 4: If I understand buddhistm.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we should just get right to the
Speaker 2: most pressing news, which is line go.
Speaker 4: Down, Line, Line is on its way down. Yeah, line
Speaker 4: in free fold currently. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's funny because they chose they were supposed to initially.
Speaker 3: I think it was like going to be three pm
Speaker 3: or something. E St two or three was the initial
Speaker 3: time they wanted to announce this, which would have given
Speaker 3: the stock market a couple of.
Speaker 2: Hours on April second, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on April second, it would have given it Liberation Day.
Speaker 3: On Liberation Day, there would have been a couple hours
Speaker 3: for it to take effect, and they attempted to mitigate this.
Speaker 4: I guess in the hope that we would all get
Speaker 4: over it overnight, we would forget some other ship before
Speaker 4: the new prices. Even Kevin, we'd be like, ah, no,
Speaker 4: I'm on in the next thing. But the Dow and
Speaker 4: the Nazi all all plunged because it's clear if the
Speaker 4: president is like deliberately shifting an event to not hurt
Speaker 4: the stock market, that's going to hurt the stock market,
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, yeah, it's good. When you see a
Speaker 4: ninety degree angle on the old stock market graph, that's
Speaker 4: when you know someone's really crushing it. In the economic delip.
Speaker 3: And so far we were recording this a little afternoon
Speaker 3: on Thursday, the April third, So just in the course
Speaker 3: of today, major stock indexes have dropped by about five
Speaker 3: point six percent, which means about two point seven trillion
Speaker 3: dollars in market value, which will be the largest decline
Speaker 3: since March of twenty twenty sick. So we are it
Speaker 3: is looking like this is going to be, at the
Speaker 3: very least a stock market decline in line with the
Speaker 3: one that came as a result of the global pandemic,
Speaker 3: with the noted caveat that there's really no reason to
Speaker 3: believe it will get better at any point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can't ready vaccinate against you bid.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not qualified to give financial advice, but I
Speaker 2: think everyone should pull out your four O one K
Speaker 2: right now, go to the bank, withdraw all your money,
Speaker 2: all of it your accounts ripe.
Speaker 3: Put it into the worst tasting survival foods, and you're
Speaker 3: gonna want to buy kel texts, lots of col texts
Speaker 3: in a caliber no one.
Speaker 4: Else has five to seven. Get the one that doesn't
Speaker 4: eight thirty two ACP. I won the thirty two ACP.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's it, James. Everyone buy thirty two ACP and guy,
Speaker 4: it's exceeded in ending one World war, and right it
Speaker 4: won't let us down. We call that doing a hitler,
Speaker 4: but in a good way.
Speaker 6: Someone here has to be vaguely responsible and say, don't
Speaker 6: fucking do that. Do none of those things zero zero
Speaker 6: of those into your accounts, get hard cash.
Speaker 4: Mark Cuban told people to do that. Absolutely not Mayor
Speaker 4: endorses Reagan Coin is the exclusive safe source of the
Speaker 4: time savings.
Speaker 3: You're gonna want to put every dime you've got impressed latinum.
Speaker 3: Now I know that that's the currency from star Trek
Speaker 3: and does not exist. Nevertheless, cancel your accounts, put it
Speaker 3: all in latinum.
Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna exist in like what like forty
Speaker 2: years per time.
Speaker 4: On the ground, it's not already a meme coin ten
Speaker 4: minutes off to discussion, more.
Speaker 2: Stable than your four oh one k.
Speaker 4: Right now, you can be rich just in time for
Speaker 4: money to stop being a thing. There you go, there
Speaker 4: you go. Yeah, this is why we're launching cools on
Speaker 4: coin guys for years. It's redeemable for whatever money the
Speaker 4: Ferengi use when they exist.
Speaker 2: We should probably talk about why the stock market is
Speaker 2: doing poor Leah, So I think Robert, you can handle
Speaker 2: this segue.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, wait, what is that? Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Is that Mina Wong's theme music by God?
Speaker 7: Locks right, jasp, locking.
Speaker 5: Locking, jasp.
Speaker 3: Oh God, that was a great purchase, you guys. I mean,
Speaker 3: can we all agree with every penny?
Speaker 2: Really was the best financial partise we've made is the
Speaker 2: tariff talk theme. Thought, it's gonna get so much mileage
Speaker 2: out of that thing.
Speaker 4: It's an un I'm gonna be using this fucker for
Speaker 4: years at least something good came of face. When you're
Speaker 4: struggling to get by with your family, just remember the song.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this will keep you warm as you huddle
Speaker 3: around a barrel waiting for the uh, the new police,
Speaker 3: which are just called murder police to reach your shanty
Speaker 3: down anyway, Pah.
Speaker 6: Let us talk tariffs. Power. Sections of the left have
Speaker 6: long argued is in logistics. It was logistics that allowed
Speaker 6: the capitalists of the nineteen seventies and eighties to crush
Speaker 6: the labor movements by enacting the so called spatial fix
Speaker 6: to the Crisis of capitalism by shifting production from countries
Speaker 6: where workers' movements were strong to countries where violence against
Speaker 6: workers was easier, and workers were thus poorer and more exploited.
Speaker 6: CEOs could pit workers against each other in an endless
Speaker 6: race to the bottom. These practices became known as offshoring.
Speaker 6: Infused with the international attack on unions and the power
Speaker 6: of workers heralded in the US by Reagan, together they
Speaker 6: crushed the workers' movement and implemented neoliberal austerity throughout the
Speaker 6: globe through a regime that is colloquially known as free trade.
Speaker 6: Now there was, of course resistance to this, maybe most
Speaker 6: famously the uprising of the Zapatistas and Chiapas in nineteen
Speaker 6: ninety four on the day the NAFTA went into effect.
Speaker 6: But for all of the victories and all of the
Speaker 6: spaces that were carved out, it is still the CEOs,
Speaker 6: the bosses, and the capitalists to rule the world. However,
Speaker 6: in the wake of their defeat, sections of the working
Speaker 6: class came to see their own power as a product
Speaker 6: of the nation of masculinity of American jobs. For American workers,
Speaker 6: in this view, you didn't need to form a union,
Speaker 6: you didn't need to organize, you didn't need to fight
Speaker 6: the boss who exploit you. All you needed to do
Speaker 6: for the high paying blue collar jobs of the nineteen
Speaker 6: sixties to return was getting rid of the immigrants and
Speaker 6: bring jobs back home. This American nationalist ideology was extremely
Speaker 6: useful to the ruling class. It allowed them to turn
Speaker 6: the rhetoric of the old base of the workers' movement
Speaker 6: into a fascist movement, which they could then use to
Speaker 6: smash any genuine worker struggle and then ride to power
Speaker 6: to impose more brutal austerity and more pro capitalist reforms, too,
Speaker 6: in their view, make it impossible for their power ever
Speaker 6: to be challenged again. But a strange thing happened in
Speaker 6: the nationalism bred by the defeat of the worker's movement.
Speaker 6: The human personifications of the capitalist bubble economy in Donald
Speaker 6: Trump and Elon Musk, have come to see their own
Speaker 6: victory as defeat. They became convinced that the trade deficits,
Speaker 6: which from a capitalist's perspective, simply do not matter as
Speaker 6: long as companies are making money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, they no better for shit? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Juse the fuck we're calling a trade deficit? Is us
Speaker 3: getting things we want from people?
Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, it's buying stuff Like I saw a
Speaker 4: good post. It was like, you don't have a trade
Speaker 4: deficit with your dentist. You just pay them to fix
Speaker 4: your teeth. Like, yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was told at one point in this nation's greatest
Speaker 3: living previous moment of crisis, that what we needed to
Speaker 3: do was go buy things to make it better.
Speaker 6: Not anymore, buddy, Nope, because because these people, Donald Trump
Speaker 6: and Elon Musk and the cadra of weird white nationals
Speaker 6: fanatics sets around them have absolutely convinced themselves that if
Speaker 6: you have a trade deficit, you are being ripped off
Speaker 6: by foreigners.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep.
Speaker 6: And so they concluded that we needed to put tariffs
Speaker 6: on fucking all of the rest of the world in
Speaker 6: order to bring American jobs back to Americans. A new
Speaker 6: national autarchy for a fascist world. Now, the ruling class,
Speaker 6: all the capitalists, all these fucking goddamn Golden Sax, motherfucker
Speaker 6: financial analysts, all of these CMBC dipshits, all of these
Speaker 6: fucking all these motherfuckers at black Rock and all of
Speaker 6: the global hedge funds, and all of these all these motherfuckers,
Speaker 6: all of the tech dipshits, all of the people who
Speaker 6: backed Trump to a hilt, simply assumed that none of
Speaker 6: these hairs would ever happen, that it was all campaign bluster,
Speaker 6: that he was lying out of his ass. And you know,
Speaker 6: Obama again I've said this before, ran an abolishing NAFTA.
Speaker 6: So there was you know, and what the fuck ever
Speaker 6: came from that, right? We of course fucking tried to
Speaker 6: tell them otherwise. We tried to tell them that they
Speaker 6: could not fucking control the fascist beasts, that one day
Speaker 6: it would rise to consume them all along with us.
Speaker 6: They didn't care. They backed Trump anyways because they thought
Speaker 6: they would get fucking tax breaks. And now Liberation Day
Speaker 6: is here.
Speaker 4: Don't forget Crypto. They were really bulletshot back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all of these motherfuckers. They really thought that
Speaker 6: Trump was going to fucking that. Literally, all Trump was
Speaker 6: going to do was punish the transgenders, get rid of woke,
Speaker 6: and give them tax cuts.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm yep.
Speaker 6: And now if the terrorfalls have gone up, the old
Speaker 6: world is dead, the new world struggles to be. Now
Speaker 6: is the time of monsters.
Speaker 2: Now we're in what I'm what I'm referring to as
Speaker 2: the Chinese Century. I came up with this this this
Speaker 2: week on my own.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, hmm yeah, good.
Speaker 3: Now that's that's of course named after Chinatown in San Francisco,
Speaker 3: which Garrison is very bullish about. Uh, positive, positive real
Speaker 3: estate developments there. Uh, you're big into real estate. People
Speaker 3: don't know that.
Speaker 6: Chinese real estate absolutely where you want to be right now,
Speaker 6: both both in Chinatown and in actual China. You put
Speaker 6: all your money in the Chinese real estate. The bubble
Speaker 6: can't pop a second time, can only go back up.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 3: There were so many like enemies on the verge of
Speaker 3: defeat in like the traditional US geopolitical sense, like China's
Speaker 3: economy is doing great, Russia could have been easily pushed
Speaker 3: to collapse, and we were just like, na, no, no,
Speaker 3: you know what's better. We're gonna shoot ourselves right in
Speaker 3: the dick.
Speaker 4: We've snatched defeat from the get ourselves in a dick
Speaker 4: with a bullet. That venmos, both of you guys. It's great.
Speaker 4: We dug up the Cold War, resurrected it and then lost. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just to lose. Yeah, Yeah, it's beautiful. You can't. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's so.
Speaker 3: It's sort of like Michael Jackson coming back for Space
Speaker 3: Jam if he had immediately like fucking thrown a basketball
Speaker 3: so hard at a bugs bunny skull that it put
Speaker 3: him at traction.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, wait, did you just say Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4: Jordan didn't, Okay, Jordan, you just said jacks Well, definitely,
Speaker 4: you know, leave it in different, different movie, maybe better.
Speaker 4: You know, he always he always performed well around kids.
Speaker 4: So it's good.
Speaker 2: God, Yeah, I love Space Jam.
Speaker 4: It's a good movie. Anymore. Garrit said, it's forevitainted.
Speaker 3: Now, so let's let's talk about the nature of like
Speaker 3: what's actually going down with these terrors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get to the tariff's terrible, terrifable, terrifable. That's right, Garrison.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So okay, so let me let me, let me
Speaker 6: just let me just read off some of the ones
Speaker 6: that are going to fuck everyone.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 6: Fifty four percent tariff on all goods from China. This
Speaker 6: is a third four percent tariff that is being added
Speaker 6: on to the twenty percent tariff that was already on.
Speaker 6: There is a twenty percent tariff on all goods from
Speaker 6: the EU, forty six percent on Vietnam, which is fucking
Speaker 6: devastating because there's a huge amount of capital from China.
Speaker 4: Also, speaking of the China panic, our strongest geopolitical ally
Speaker 4: in the region, like in terms of having a military, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: a contry that we've been discussing going to warfall quite recently.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like we we just we we have literally and
Speaker 6: this is this is the funny thing about all of these.
Speaker 6: Vicky Osto will pointed this out. The more closely allied
Speaker 6: with the US, the more fucked you got by these.
Speaker 4: It's such a weird move.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty four percent tariff on Japan.
Speaker 4: What is it like eighty or ninety percent on fucking Cambodia?
Speaker 6: Why, yeah, yeah, yeah, So what we'll get to why
Speaker 6: in a second. I want to also cover So there's
Speaker 6: there's a thirty seven percent teriff on Bangladesh, which is
Speaker 6: going to be devastating for I mean a lot of
Speaker 6: textile imports. Twenty five percent on South Korea, so fucking
Speaker 6: you ever getting a phone again? On Taiwan, so rip
Speaker 6: the entire tech industry. Fucking rip Taiwan too. These tariffs
Speaker 6: are going to devastate the international economy.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 6: I have been angry about this since the fucking election.
Speaker 6: People have been calling these tariffs attacks. That is just no,
Speaker 6: it is not what's happening here. This is like calling
Speaker 6: it a tax is to completely underplay how serious this is.
Speaker 6: This is not a fucking tax. This is the wholesale
Speaker 6: destruction of entire industries. And some of these industries like
Speaker 6: fast fashion, which you know has always been undergirded by
Speaker 6: the exploitation of workers from China to Bangladeshi and also
Speaker 6: like in the US two but like, you know, fuck
Speaker 6: those things whatever, they never needed to exist. Fuck them.
Speaker 6: But like you know, like you're probably not gonna be
Speaker 6: able to fucking buy board games anymore because they're going
Speaker 6: to be too expensive to produce.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna shatter games like tabletop gaming.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's done. Like the economy as we
Speaker 6: knew it does not exist as of like this morning, right,
Speaker 6: everything that we've known about how this thing works is
Speaker 6: fucking done. And some of these are just you know,
Speaker 6: like unbelievably hideously cruel. So, for example, a forty four
Speaker 6: percent terriff on me and Mark, which you know is
Speaker 6: a country, yeah, devastated by a horrific war wage for
Speaker 6: a brutal dictatorship and also fucking suffering from a catastrophic earthquake,
Speaker 6: and we're like, fuck you eat shit. Forty four percent
Speaker 6: tariff also embargoed.
Speaker 4: No, like we've seized their government assets in the United States, Like, yep,
Speaker 4: it's one of like Diego Garcia for instance.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's well it's on the British Indian Ocean Territory,
Speaker 3: which collective population is primarily US soldiers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Christmas Island is on there, like yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: And there's one more that I want to talk about,
Speaker 6: which is that so Sri Lanka has been suffering from
Speaker 6: an unbelievably devastating series of economic crises, and they're getting
Speaker 6: hit with a forty four percent fucking tariff in a
Speaker 6: moment when like they already haven't had enough dollars to
Speaker 6: fucking import fuel for their economy to function. So this
Speaker 6: is going to be devastating not just for US, but
Speaker 6: for a whole bunch of people across the world. So
Speaker 6: this is the other aspect of this too that's really
Speaker 6: fucking brutal, is that for the US, Right, we don't
Speaker 6: need other countries' money, We don't need to have piles
Speaker 6: of any other countries's money around, Right, we can just
Speaker 6: buy things in American dollars. But if you are Sri Lanka,
Speaker 6: you need American dollars to buy oil. Yes, there are
Speaker 6: so many fucking things that you could only buy in
Speaker 6: American dollars. And when these TIFFs go up, when the
Speaker 6: prices increase, and when they can't fucking sell their stuff,
Speaker 6: that means that they don't have dollars, and that means
Speaker 6: that they can't get access to a whole bunch of
Speaker 6: the vital commodities that they need to survive. And this
Speaker 6: is just going to fucking devastate them. And I think
Speaker 6: that's been an angle that I really wanted to make
Speaker 6: sure we talked about, because it's been I haven't seen
Speaker 6: any fucking mention of it at all, even though those
Speaker 6: are the people who are going to suffer the most
Speaker 6: in this are people who are already completely on the
Speaker 6: fucking edge, whose economies have already been collapsed. You've already
Speaker 6: been so brutally exploited by these same fucking people, and
Speaker 6: they're just fucked.
Speaker 4: Yep. You know, we always say we know like to reefs,
Speaker 4: but we do like these ads. We're back. I don't
Speaker 4: feel great about that.
Speaker 6: But now there is a funny part of all of this.
Speaker 6: There is some fun here good, which is okay. So
Speaker 6: one of the big questions about the tariffs was how
Speaker 6: were they going to calculate the tariffs on all of
Speaker 6: these countries right because they were saying that their terroriffs
Speaker 6: were going to be a projection of like currency manipulation
Speaker 6: and like value added taxes and like all of these
Speaker 6: like like subsidies to vital industries and you know, And
Speaker 6: the question again was like literally, how can they possibly
Speaker 6: cockyate the tariff rates of hundreds of different countries and
Speaker 6: taking into account all these things right now? The news
Speaker 6: have been making a couple of weeks ago was that
Speaker 6: they were going to do brackets. What they actually appear
Speaker 6: to have done is ask check GVT.
Speaker 3: It's entire people have like reverse engineered the prompts. It's
Speaker 3: almost directly just the schatchy probably shit, there's a couple
Speaker 3: different engines that give almost identical responses, but it's probably it's.
Speaker 4: Amazing that they're doing the same ship as like my
Speaker 4: undergraduates and the people are doing the same shit. Sure
Speaker 4: you're undergraduates. Spends a little more time trying to add it.
Speaker 4: Ja most of them a smart enough to to like
Speaker 4: had it a little bit so that you can't put
Speaker 4: prompt into chat GPT and find it. Yeah, So that
Speaker 4: my lowest effa undergrads.
Speaker 6: I want to give a lot of credit to the
Speaker 6: economist James Surohreki, who's the guy who figured out their formula.
Speaker 6: So their formula and this is drawing for something. I
Speaker 6: mean I saw it from from James first. Uh, But
Speaker 6: like so their formula is literally just you take a
Speaker 6: country's trade deficit with the US. And it's also important
Speaker 6: to note here that they're not counting services. They're only
Speaker 6: counting goods. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, again, if if you're missing the products and just
Speaker 3: getting in services, that's half the economy as I understand it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, especially provides an enormous number of services. You know,
Speaker 6: But these people are fucking fascists and so they don't
Speaker 6: they don't think that like the services are fucking real, right,
Speaker 6: It's it's the same ideology that undergirds the whole thing
Speaker 6: about like service workers not being fucking real work.
Speaker 4: Literally, the only real job is that one video of
Speaker 4: a guy wrestling with an oil Derek.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is the only job.
Speaker 4: That is the manager and was just doing that for
Speaker 4: the video and was doing it very wrong. You've got to.
Speaker 2: Take some pieces of metal, move them around to where
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to go. That's that's when you're a real.
Speaker 4: Labor, labor that's working. Only jobs are things where you
Speaker 4: wear safety to boots and well and and and.
Speaker 6: That's and that's the thing that because like their image
Speaker 6: of the world is is the fascist image of the world,
Speaker 6: and the fascist image of the world, like labor is
Speaker 6: just masculinity. Yeah, and that's like that's why they're fucking
Speaker 6: doing it like this, and so you know, and so
Speaker 6: so the fascists have asked chat GPT how to do tariffs,
Speaker 6: and what they got is again, so do they take
Speaker 6: the country's trade deficit and divide it by their total
Speaker 6: experts in the US? Now, this is nothing, right, like
Speaker 6: in economic terms, that's not how you do anything. This
Speaker 6: is this is not a real thing like this is
Speaker 6: this is like trying to measure someone's height by like
Speaker 6: dividing their favorite number by the average radius of an apple.
Speaker 4: Like it's literally at you know, what are we what
Speaker 4: are you coming after me?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 4: Look just because I'm imagined differently.
Speaker 6: Okay, there is no scientific basis Robert for for for
Speaker 6: measuring height by dividing favorite number by apple radius. We
Speaker 6: simply must accept the truth of science.
Speaker 4: That's what you say, Joe Rogan, and I feel it everently.
Speaker 2: The dictatorship of chat GPT is just it's so bleak.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's just they asked chat GPT.
Speaker 3: It's a mix of they don't actually care or think
Speaker 3: this will affect them, and also they legitimately think it's
Speaker 3: the smartest person in the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's smarter than them. Yeah, it would just
Speaker 4: maybe a good thing, but not in this instant.
Speaker 6: Well well, and you can you can tell the extent
Speaker 6: to which they were relying on this and didn't cancnate
Speaker 6: themselves because so after after it started to spread that
Speaker 6: this is just how they were doing its James Suroreki
Speaker 6: like calculated it. The White House said no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: hold on, no, no, no, no, that's not right. We
Speaker 6: use an actual complex formula, and so they released a
Speaker 6: fake formula. But I think about the formula, right, is
Speaker 6: that the formula is just it is literally just trade
Speaker 6: deficit divided by total exports. But they threw in two
Speaker 6: random variables as Greek letters. But there's one on the top,
Speaker 6: but there's one of the numerated, one of those denominator
Speaker 6: and they're the same so they can't sell each other out.
Speaker 4: That sounds right to me.
Speaker 2: That's how you know they're smart. It's because they're using
Speaker 2: Greek letters.
Speaker 4: Yep, which Greek letters did they use? And which person's
Speaker 4: fraternity does it represent?
Speaker 3: I don't even speak Greek letters, so they are They
Speaker 3: must be smarter than me, you know what, I rescind
Speaker 3: my complaints.
Speaker 6: This is how the economy dies, not through tragedy but
Speaker 6: through farce.
Speaker 4: It's both. Yeah, tragic fuss, I think is what Marx
Speaker 4: cold is. A lot of people are gonna die, you know, And.
Speaker 6: I mean, like, like, my actual serious line on this
Speaker 6: is that this is the great double bind of capitalism,
Speaker 6: is that we are all reliant simultaneously, We are reliant
Speaker 6: for our survival on the same economy that will make
Speaker 6: us all homeless, right is the same economy that we
Speaker 6: need to fucking eat every single day. That even in
Speaker 6: good times, this economy fucking strips from us the value
Speaker 6: of the labor we produce and hands us back a
Speaker 6: bunch of fucking scraps that pay for not enough of
Speaker 6: anything that we need. So even as our enemies, you know,
Speaker 6: terror part the system that exploits us, we are the
Speaker 6: fucking ones who's going to suffer. Neoliberalism finally has in
Speaker 6: Trump produced its own grave digger, and our fucking job
Speaker 6: and the job of every single one of us and
Speaker 6: every single person listening to this show is to make
Speaker 6: sure that we also aren't the ones thrown into this
Speaker 6: fucking grave. And this is going to require a kind
Speaker 6: of organizing that is in some ways like but in
Speaker 6: some ways unlike anything we've done before. We are we're
Speaker 6: about to experience a level of unbelievable economic chaos that
Speaker 6: we sort of saw during twenty twenty. But during twenty
Speaker 6: twenty there was you know, as bad as everything got,
Speaker 6: the state stepped in and decided to do welfare reforms,
Speaker 6: right like, they gave people a bunch of fucking money. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and it wasn't enough, but they did it. Now, none
Speaker 6: of that shit. He are the only people who are
Speaker 6: going to be able to keep each other alive. And
Speaker 6: that's that's what we have to be doing right now,
Speaker 6: is we have to be keeping each other alive until
Speaker 6: we are organized enough and we are powerful enough to
Speaker 6: fucking run these people out so they can't ever fuck
Speaker 6: us again like this, so.
Speaker 2: We can resurrect neo liberal globalism. We can restore free trade, that's.
Speaker 4: Right, that's right, and bring it back to the Clinton era.
Speaker 6: Oh god. One last thing we should mention is that
Speaker 6: like this is already united the entire world against us. Effectively,
Speaker 6: people countries who have never worked together before in their
Speaker 6: entire existence are working together.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, Poles also show Americans can distrust or the
Speaker 3: tendency to view like Canadians and the EU as enemies
Speaker 3: is rising both Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's great. That's great, cool cool, cool cool
Speaker 4: cool cool cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And also you know, and like the thing, the thing,
Speaker 6: the other thing that we have to do here, and
Speaker 6: this is this is literally our responsibility on this podcast
Speaker 6: and also just ability of like fucking everyone who was
Speaker 6: having conversations with another person is that this is entirely
Speaker 6: Trump's fault. He fucking did this. Like, oh yeah, this
Speaker 6: is not fucking the EU or whatever the fuck whoever's
Speaker 6: doing retalitory show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is no one else ever wanted this.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, no, like the people who put Trump in
Speaker 6: power didn't want this.
Speaker 1: This is just him.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, the the actual solution to this is
Speaker 6: all of us running this fucker out and not us
Speaker 6: getting drawn into his fucking bullshit wars with Canada or
Speaker 6: Greenland or whatever the fuck country he decides to invade
Speaker 6: in the next year.
Speaker 4: Is that all for tariff talk?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's all we got on the terrace.
Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I'm just looking at the numbers
Speaker 3: right now where the Dow Industrial is down a fifteen
Speaker 3: hundred points since the start of the day, So it's.
Speaker 4: Things are looking very good.
Speaker 7: Yea.
Speaker 3: All of the lines, like if you look at the
Speaker 3: in which the line went down, there's like it's just this.
Speaker 4: Direct vertical drop on the third Yep, it's shocking. So
Speaker 4: it is a ninety degree angle.
Speaker 6: It is legitimately if you set the Google stock viewer
Speaker 6: thing to a one day view, the drop is so
Speaker 6: shocking that it looks like it just started down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it prompts you to turn your phone in the
Speaker 4: other direction. I've never seen anything like it, but I
Speaker 4: guess no one has. Yeah, no, I mean some of us.
Speaker 4: I guess people still alive in the nineteen thirties. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 4: Woody Guthrie has fucking grandma. I guess, like, Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4: We did it in the nineteen thirties. It was bad
Speaker 4: then and it's bad now.
Speaker 2: Well, now that we got those pesky tariffs out of
Speaker 2: the way, let's talk about the actual most important thing
Speaker 2: to happen this week. In the news, New Jersey Senator
Speaker 2: Cory Booker has broken the record for the longest yea
Speaker 2: twenty five hours in five minutes. Yeah, that's horrible, beating
Speaker 2: Strom Thurman's filibuster of the nineteen fifty seven Civil Rights
Speaker 2: Bill by forty six minutes.
Speaker 4: We did it. Vokes excellent, outstanding, good. I'm just checking
Speaker 4: on Ah Wall Street bets and they're having a real
Speaker 4: one today.
Speaker 6: That's pretty I will say. I will say the thing
Speaker 6: about the Booker won. So if you were writing a
Speaker 6: parody of the Democratic Party, you would write that Corey
Speaker 6: Booker did this and like, did this filibuster and then
Speaker 6: immediately turned around and voted yes for a cloture vote
Speaker 6: to allow Trump to appoint another nominee. And that's exactly
Speaker 6: what they did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't even you.
Speaker 6: Can't perry to them. It's beyond parody. I like, it's astounding,
Speaker 6: it's astonishing.
Speaker 2: It's not even a filibuster. He's not filibuster or anything.
Speaker 6: We didn't.
Speaker 4: He didn't actively stop anything happening other than people not
Speaker 4: paying attention to it. I got a response from someone
Speaker 4: being like, well, you know, they didn't get to do
Speaker 4: anything on Monday, and I was like, yeah, they weren't
Speaker 4: really planning on it and things continued as normal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And you know, and here's the thing about that, right, Like,
Speaker 6: do you know how many Democrats there are in the Senate.
Speaker 6: Do you know how many hours you could filibuster them
Speaker 6: for if you were actually determined to fucking do this,
Speaker 6: and on how many different things.
Speaker 2: We had a rotating series of Democrats.
Speaker 4: Yeah, show it if you tag teamed it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they're not They're not willing to fucking do it.
Speaker 3: No, and they'd be stopped eventually the Republicans would do
Speaker 3: something fucked up to stop it.
Speaker 4: But at least you'd have tried, Yeah, yeah, and people
Speaker 4: would maybe take some fucking energy from that. And even
Speaker 4: if you were gonna do this as a fucking show
Speaker 4: vote thing, you could have voted no one the cloture
Speaker 4: motion to like fucking do the to like appoint the
Speaker 4: next nominee. But they're just like no, fuck you.
Speaker 2: Mention the fact that Chuck Schumer caved on the Republican
Speaker 2: budget from a few weeks ago. Yeah, and secretly got
Speaker 2: a number of Democratic senators just which their votes to
Speaker 2: make it pass. Yeah, and no one did this for
Speaker 2: for that which which previously Democrats were talking about this
Speaker 2: budget bill like it's the worst thing to ever happen
Speaker 2: because it is a bad bill. Yeah, it's really bad.
Speaker 2: And then they just caved last minute, or specifically Schumer
Speaker 2: and the people he talked to caved. And Schumer definitely
Speaker 2: would not have been in supportive of Booker doing something
Speaker 2: like this for that bill. But now Schumer gets to
Speaker 2: applaud along as as Booker delivers a twenty five hour
Speaker 2: maybe like well orated speech, but it was.
Speaker 4: A very well written speech. Like technically it was good,
Speaker 4: but that didn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's just this pure show of like symbolic theater.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the point.
Speaker 3: It's like if a congress person got out and conducted
Speaker 3: like a perfect rendition of the Nutcracker like symphony of
Speaker 3: like the ballet portion of that on their own in
Speaker 3: front of like the Capitol building, Like, well, it's impressive,
Speaker 3: it's spectacle, Like you're clearly very good at what you're doing,
Speaker 3: but it didn't change anything, like it had no impact
Speaker 3: on the problems.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, like you're good. I'll give you that.
Speaker 4: Corey Booker can deliver a fucking speech, but that was
Speaker 4: really not what I was looking for. Yeah, fiddling impressively burned,
Speaker 4: thanks Corey.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and every single moment the Trump is in power,
Speaker 6: the way the way that they fucking just rolled over
Speaker 6: for him looks worse and.
Speaker 4: Worse because he said, I failed, and so did we.
Speaker 4: We didn't rise to the moment, and we let this
Speaker 4: horrible thing happen, which I even I got a little briefly.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, maybe he actually recognizes like, no, okay, well.
Speaker 2: Because it took him like twenty hours to like break
Speaker 2: emotionally to the point where he could like admit that
Speaker 2: to himself.
Speaker 4: His deep, deep deep failed.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but like it took having your brain be
Speaker 2: be shattered by this like pretty impressive physical act that
Speaker 2: like destroys your body, soul and spirit. And anyway, I
Speaker 2: think that's all we have to say about that. Let's
Speaker 2: go on and ad break and come back to discuss
Speaker 2: more sad and I'll actually also possibly good news or
Speaker 2: at least bad for Elon Musk which is good for us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we are back.
Speaker 2: I think let's pivot to James Stout for an update
Speaker 2: on Venezuela. Well, no El Salvador, Salvador the torture labor prison.
Speaker 2: James m hm.
Speaker 4: Of course. We have to begin my segment today by
Speaker 4: saying tepe rosbi to Abdullah Ojulen, whose birthday it is
Speaker 4: on the day that you are hearing this. So if
Speaker 4: you want to plant, if you want to plant a
Speaker 4: tree for appo, get it. Get out there and plant
Speaker 4: your tree. Unfortunately, that is the only good news we
Speaker 4: have today. Border Patrol to spend most of this week
Speaker 4: touting the quote lowest number of border crossings in history.
Speaker 4: It will shocked listeners to hear that this is not
Speaker 4: historically accurate. Bordering counters are way down. If there's one
Speaker 4: thing that I have ever taught you, it is that
Speaker 4: bordering counters are not the same as unique ind visuals
Speaker 4: because people are being sent directly back to Mexico and
Speaker 4: will tend to return attempting a different route crossing the border. Right,
Speaker 4: there's our way down. And they're the lowest since they
Speaker 4: began publishing monthly data in two thousand. But numbers were
Speaker 4: wailer in the fifties and sixties and before then. It's
Speaker 4: relatively immaterial. It's just sort of a nipiggy point. I
Speaker 4: guess today, what I really want to talk about is
Speaker 4: the case of mister Kilmar Abragor Garcia. He was removed
Speaker 4: by the Trump administration to els Albador to Secot in
Speaker 4: a way that they have admitted was a mistake. So
Speaker 4: we have to go back a little bit to understand
Speaker 4: mister Abergo Garcia's story and how we got here. He
Speaker 4: was arrested in mid March due to the United States
Speaker 4: government claim that he played a quote prominent role in
Speaker 4: MS thirteen. MS thirteen being the Salvadorean gang. He'd come
Speaker 4: to the United States in twenty eleven he was fleeing
Speaker 4: gang violence. He was allegedly arrested in twenty nineteen outside
Speaker 4: a home depot where he was standing with other men
Speaker 4: looking for work. However, the incident report for that particular
Speaker 4: incident gives other names, but not his. At that point,
Speaker 4: a Prince George's County Police Department detective filled out a
Speaker 4: quote gang worksheet and claimed that mister Abergogarcia was associated
Speaker 4: with a member of MS thirteen. The evidence he cited
Speaker 4: for this was a Chicago bulls hoodie and the claim
Speaker 4: of a confidential informant. The competition informant claimed that he
Speaker 4: was part of a group within this gang that was
Speaker 4: set up in a state that mister Abergagarcia had never
Speaker 4: lived in the United States. In twenty nineteen, Ice argued
Speaker 4: that he shouldn't be given bond because of this alleged
Speaker 4: gang membership right, and so he wasn't given bond, but
Speaker 4: through an asylum claim. Although he didn't get asylum, he
Speaker 4: was protected from removal right, so a judge ruled that
Speaker 4: he couldn't be removed back to El Salvador, where he
Speaker 4: would presumably face violence. When mister Abergogarcia's lawyers tried to
Speaker 4: interview the police detective who had filed this report accusing
Speaker 4: him of gang membership, they found no record of his
Speaker 4: rest and that the detective has been suspended since then.
Speaker 4: The department question also settled a lawsuit with its own
Speaker 4: corps over racism in the department. JD Vance, who has
Speaker 4: a law degree right the JD is I guess before
Speaker 4: and after his name. He has a law degree from Harvard,
Speaker 4: has claimed that mister Abergo Garcia is a convicted member
Speaker 4: of MS thirteen. This is not true. I can't find
Speaker 4: any evidence he has any conviction of any kind. I'm
Speaker 4: going to quote here from a filing by the United
Speaker 4: States government on the fifteenth of March. Although ICE was
Speaker 4: aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrigo
Speaker 4: Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error.
Speaker 4: So the government there has admitted in a court filing
Speaker 4: that they accidentally sent this guide to the prison labor
Speaker 4: camp in El Salvador. Right, according to ICE acting field
Speaker 4: Officer Robert Cerner quote, he was an alternate as others
Speaker 4: were removed from the flight for versarious reasons. He moved
Speaker 4: up the list and was assigned to the flight. So
Speaker 4: it appears that they had a large list of people
Speaker 4: they wanted to put on this flight. This is interesting, right,
Speaker 4: It's an insight into their process fulfilling that first flight
Speaker 4: that they some people they cally didn't feel they had
Speaker 4: enough evidence for. But somehow this guy, who again has
Speaker 4: never been convicted of having any membership of any gang,
Speaker 4: they put on this flight. Right, His wife and child
Speaker 4: are both US citizens and they have sued in court.
Speaker 4: That's why we're seeing this, right. They've sued for the
Speaker 4: United States government to stop paying El Salvador for his
Speaker 4: detention and for the United States government to demand he returned.
Speaker 4: Vance has advanced a kind of unique legal theory in response,
Speaker 4: claiming that withholding of removal only prevent someone being deported
Speaker 4: back to their home state. I mean you could technically
Speaker 4: that is what the withholding is, right, Like, it's like,
Speaker 4: he can't go back to El Salvador because he will
Speaker 4: be at risk in El Salvador. So so they can
Speaker 4: deport him to a third state. But they deported him
Speaker 4: to Well Salvador, or renditioned him to Well Salvador. Right,
Speaker 4: I want to read JD. Vance's post here. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to read the whole thing, but I'll start with
Speaker 4: the second paragraph. In twenty nineteen Immigration judge parentheses under
Speaker 4: the Biden administration. For those of you who are familiar
Speaker 4: with dates, it's at twenty nineteen, was under the first
Speaker 4: Trump administration. That was that was the Trump administration. Yeah,
Speaker 4: moving on, determined that the deported man was in fact
Speaker 4: a member of the MS thirteen gang. He also apparently
Speaker 4: had multiple traffic violations for which he failed to appear
Speaker 4: in court, a real winner. It is telling that the
Speaker 4: entire American media is going to run a propaganda operation
Speaker 4: today making you think that an innocent quote father of
Speaker 4: three was apprehended by a gulag. Father of three is
Speaker 4: in quotes here, by the way, Yeah, yeah, And gulags
Speaker 4: generally not capable of doing the apprehensions themselves. If we
Speaker 4: think of a gulag as a place, is the police
Speaker 4: who are apprehend the person send them to the gulag.
Speaker 4: Moving on, here are the relevant facts. I'm still quoting.
Speaker 4: The man is an illegal immigrant with no right to
Speaker 4: be in our country. Obviously, the judge determined that he
Speaker 4: was protected from removal. Quoting again an immigration judge during
Speaker 4: the Biden I've been determined he was a member of
Speaker 4: the MS thirteen gang. Again, that's not the case.
Speaker 6: It's staggering the extent to which they can say a
Speaker 6: sentence where every single individual word is a lie. Like stunning.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The fact that so many members of the Modern Republican
Speaker 2: Party have like memory hold twenty nineteen to twenty twenty
Speaker 2: as being under the biden In administration is just insane.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bizarre. I think what they're referring to is
Speaker 4: that the initial hearing right where he was denied BOMB
Speaker 4: was in twenty nineteen, and then he filed his asylum
Speaker 4: claim and later was protected from removal. But that's not
Speaker 4: what they're saying here.
Speaker 2: But like even the way they talk about, like the
Speaker 2: COVID response, they talk about it as if Joe Biden
Speaker 2: was the president.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna lock us down again. But you locked
Speaker 3: us down, Yeah, who did that? And then the last one,
Speaker 3: I think it's most rebelatory because he's not a citizen.
Speaker 3: He does not get full jury trial by peers. In
Speaker 3: other words, whatever due process he was entitled to he received,
Speaker 3: the immigration court doesn't generally present the opportunity for a
Speaker 3: jury trial. Right once again holds a JdE and he
Speaker 3: presumably knows this. What's more disturbing is the claim made
Speaker 3: by the United States government in its filing in this
Speaker 3: lawsuit that the Abergo Garcia family filed quote because plaintiffs
Speaker 3: conceived that Abergogarcia is not in the United States custody,
Speaker 3: this court cannot hear these claims. So they're claiming that
Speaker 3: no US court has jurisdiction over the question of these
Speaker 3: people who are in El Salvador because they're not in
Speaker 3: US custody, right, which obviously if they stick the landing
Speaker 3: on this, it suggests that like it is a one
Speaker 3: way ticket to the prison labor camp, right, that you
Speaker 3: cannot challenge that in US court, and you ain't going
Speaker 3: to get very far in court in El Salvador.
Speaker 4: Right. So what they're suggesting here is this, this is
Speaker 4: a forever detention, that there is no habeas right. That
Speaker 4: was they were asking for, Hey, colpus.
Speaker 6: Can you spen my haabest Corpus actually is for the listeners.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it means bring me the body, right in this
Speaker 4: case is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to present evidence in order to charge
Speaker 3: like convict people and things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the cnequa non of having a justice system,
Speaker 4: a criminal justice show something. Yeah, you can't just be
Speaker 4: like bad man and then put the guy in jail.
Speaker 3: The most basic thing is that like, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: in literal terms, it means you have to like actually
Speaker 3: take somebody in front of a court in order to
Speaker 3: determine if they're like being detained for a reason, right,
Speaker 3: Like a judge has to see them and say like, yes,
Speaker 3: this is this is not an unlawful imprisonment. There is
Speaker 3: a charge, there is some degree of evidence that somebody
Speaker 3: did something.
Speaker 4: Right, which they have not provided here.
Speaker 3: Right, not that like you can prove they did it,
Speaker 3: but like something was done and you are here for
Speaker 3: that for a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so in this case, we we don't have any
Speaker 4: of that. Mister Abrigo Garcia is still the way his
Speaker 4: family found out he was in second was that his
Speaker 4: wife identified him by scars on his head when they
Speaker 4: shaved it, and at tattoo they saw Jesus Christ. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they had no idea. It presumably doesn't come up on
Speaker 4: the ICE detainee locator. You know that you're going to
Speaker 4: look up your family members and if your family members
Speaker 4: are detained by ICE, doesn't have L Salvador as an option.
Speaker 4: So yeah, this is where we're at. This is a
Speaker 4: case I will be following, right because I say it's
Speaker 4: pretty pivotal. If they can argue that the court doesn't
Speaker 4: have jurisdiction. Obviously, I'm sure at that point that ruling
Speaker 4: will be challenged and it will run up the courts. Currently,
Speaker 4: it seems like the only court they're going to listen
Speaker 4: to is a Supreme court. But evidently that this is
Speaker 4: what they're going for, Like, this is their argument here
Speaker 4: that once you're in l salbad or you're out of
Speaker 4: their hands and they can't do anything. So sorry, even
Speaker 4: though it was a mistake, you're stuck there forever, which
Speaker 4: is pretty disturbing.
Speaker 2: Yesterday, me and James did an episode on ICE's targeting
Speaker 2: of students at scholars and professors that they believe are
Speaker 2: associated with Palestine protests. So we did an update on
Speaker 2: that story that I did a peace on or a
Speaker 2: segment down last week on executive disorder. So for a
Speaker 2: follow up on that, you can look to yesterday's episode.
Speaker 2: But we are going to close with I guess kind
Speaker 2: of a feel good story because it makes Elon Musk sad.
Speaker 2: He has had a bit of a bit of a
Speaker 2: rough week for mister Musk's businesses and his political projects.
Speaker 2: I guess Elon Musk's efforts to buy the Wisconsin Supreme
Speaker 2: Court have failed, as the Democratic backed candidate swept the election,
Speaker 2: maintaining four to three Liberal control of the Supreme Court
Speaker 2: of Wisconsin.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, the gist of it is of like three
Speaker 4: or four days ago, all of my friends from who
Speaker 4: are Scani's got furious because Elon Musk wore a cheesehead,
Speaker 4: you know, like the ones for the packers that the
Speaker 4: people from Wisconsin ware when they're at games while he
Speaker 4: got up on stage and gave of a million dollars.
Speaker 3: Basically immediately before, like about little less than a week ago,
Speaker 3: a higher court ruled that it was not bribery for
Speaker 3: him to offer people a million dollars at random if
Speaker 3: they voted or showed up at like you know, different
Speaker 3: rallies and stuff, which is like what he's been doing, right,
Speaker 3: is making these basically fake offers of a million dollars
Speaker 3: because these two went to members of the local Republican party,
Speaker 3: like it was clearly set up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the head of the College Republicans of Wisconsin, amazing
Speaker 2: must fish twenty five million dollars leads on this race.
Speaker 2: He danced around on stage wearing a cheesehead, and he
Speaker 2: gave out million dollar novelty checks to quote unquote voters
Speaker 2: who won a contest by signing his petition against activist judges.
Speaker 2: Which has been the new rallying cry on the right
Speaker 2: is that everything that's going wrong, everything that's stopping Trump,
Speaker 2: is from these active studges that we have to unseat.
Speaker 2: He also gave one hundred dollars each to every person
Speaker 2: who signed that petition, and on election day, Musk offered
Speaker 2: voters fifty dollars if they posted a picture of a
Speaker 2: Wisconsin resident outside of a polling place. How is that allowed?
Speaker 2: These are the same people who scream about like election interference,
Speaker 2: rigging elections, buying elections to the elections ed like, like
Speaker 2: this is insane stuff. You can go to jail for
Speaker 2: giving people a water bottle in line at polling places
Speaker 2: in multiple states. And Musk is allowed to give people
Speaker 2: fifty dollars for pictures posted outside of polling places. What
Speaker 2: the fuck is happening? But luckily, the negative polarization against
Speaker 2: Musk and Tesla that's been increasing the past few months
Speaker 2: has resulted in Judge SUVN. Crawford beating the mega hat
Speaker 2: Republican judge who last year went as Donald Trump for
Speaker 2: Halloween beating this guy by by ten percent. This was
Speaker 2: a massive, massive reversal of the twenty twenty four persential
Speaker 2: election results in Wisconsin. There was a record high turnout
Speaker 2: for this spring election, forty percent higher than the last
Speaker 2: Wisconsin Supreme Court election. Which was in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: which was.
Speaker 6: By the way, that was also a high turner election too.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, but that that previous one, then this
Speaker 6: one just fucking obliterated it.
Speaker 2: Like this was like just under the results of like
Speaker 2: what you would expect to out of like a midterm election.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They shifted every single county in the state blue compared
Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty four presdential election, and on average
Speaker 2: by about ten to twelve points. Massive, massive chefs.
Speaker 6: And this was before the terriiffs, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 6: like this this was before the terrors announced.
Speaker 4: No, this was pure personal dislike of Elon musk meddling
Speaker 4: in Wisconsin politics well like and everything else has happened
Speaker 4: since January, but like it does seem like Elon Musk's
Speaker 4: personal presence was a net negative and all the money spin.
Speaker 6: Luckily.
Speaker 2: The next day there was a Tesla sales report which
Speaker 2: was one of the worst in the history of their company,
Speaker 2: fifty percent fewer vehicles being delivered in the first three
Speaker 2: months compared to last year, with Tesla's stock continuing to
Speaker 2: plunge the past week, although with reports that that Musk
Speaker 2: might exit the inner circle of the Trump administration. Yeah,
Speaker 2: those stocks are kind of flipping back and forth as
Speaker 2: he's expected to return to his company.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and who know, like a lot of that's clearly
Speaker 4: the tariffs. Well yes, and then with the tariffs, this
Speaker 4: is a whole other issue, real double whammy for TESLA.
Speaker 3: The reporting is that people around Trump have largely soured
Speaker 3: on Musk. Who knows how true that is. There's always
Speaker 3: a lot of like reports from the Trump inner circle
Speaker 3: that are like, I don't know, it's yeah, he's always
Speaker 3: had a very leaky yeah, but and I can see
Speaker 3: it being multi causal, Like Musk has failed badly in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: The kind of suspicion right now is that Skibble or
Speaker 3: whatever name is was down about five points relative to
Speaker 3: other MAGA candidates in the same election, which people are
Speaker 3: attributing largely to Musk's intervention.
Speaker 2: Well, and like they were testing out if he was
Speaker 2: like a stable, consistent, reliable political operator, or if what
Speaker 2: he did in twenty twenty four was kind of like
Speaker 2: a one off event, if he's like a one trick
Speaker 2: tony there, and and this this complete like devastating loss
Speaker 2: demonstrated that maybe this unstable drug addict no offense a
Speaker 2: specifically for Elon Musk, who's railing ketemine all the time
Speaker 2: and trying to run the entire world. Luckily, Luckily, my
Speaker 2: friends who who might indulge in ketymene don't try to
Speaker 2: run the entire world.
Speaker 4: You say that now, but you'll get older at some point.
Speaker 4: It's it's of midlife crisis too.
Speaker 2: But he was shown in like a very public way
Speaker 2: to be to be like an unstable political force. And
Speaker 2: and yeah, that's going to turn some of some of
Speaker 2: the people in the Trump admins against him.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's I think that's all I have to say
Speaker 2: about this Wisconsin right Wisconsin race.
Speaker 4: Sorry, all right, well I think that's probably an episode.
Speaker 6: Wait ship, hold on, I just I just found the
Speaker 6: funniest fucking thing about this tariff I think i've seen
Speaker 6: yet from fucking.
Speaker 5: Rocking rocking jazz, rocking jazz, rocking jazz.
Speaker 4: Bo Okay, we're back.
Speaker 6: Tarently, the tariffs are not broken down by country. This
Speaker 6: is quote from this guy in VFX on Twitter. They're
Speaker 6: not broken down by country. They're broken down by top
Speaker 6: level Internet domain. It's why the island's populated entirely by penguins.
Speaker 6: The dot hm domain. And why the Diego Garcia military
Speaker 6: base Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like fucking McDonald's island, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: And why why Renon and Gibraltar our.
Speaker 4: Yeah like yeah what love Reunion is part of France.
Speaker 4: Why are we hitting these guys? It's because they use it? Okay,
Speaker 4: that makes sense.
Speaker 3: That that that is that that is what a nineteen
Speaker 3: year old who never went to college. My god, but
Speaker 3: thinks he's he understands all of reality would do.
Speaker 2: Okay, great dictatorship of Chad GPT fucking phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Mynd fucking god, unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Look, look, okay. The note I want to close on
Speaker 6: is that so podcaster Mike Duncan that the creator of
Speaker 6: the Revolutions podcast, a man who has spent literally tens
Speaker 6: of thousands of hours writing about like every revolution that's
Speaker 6: ever happened. At the end of the original run of
Speaker 6: the series Revolutions, he makes this point, which is that
Speaker 6: all revolutions work because they encounter you encounter one of
Speaker 6: the great idiots of history, a man who is blessed
Speaker 6: with with the the the inalienable ability to make the
Speaker 6: wrong decision at every single time. And my god, if
Speaker 6: we can't beat these motherfuckers like it that she's entirely
Speaker 6: on us because we have been handed one of the
Speaker 6: greatest idiots of history that has ever existed in the
Speaker 6: history of humanity, and our fucking job now is to
Speaker 6: turn that into fucking a better world.
Speaker 4: Do something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll see the problem is that there's a
Speaker 3: lot of greater idiots out there, and they all do
Speaker 3: still have guns and money. One of the great tragedies
Speaker 3: of the world is that very very stupid people can
Speaker 3: still fire guns.
Speaker 4: We made them too easy, folks. Yeah, I've I've seen
Speaker 4: that happen a couple of times. Yeah, in the old
Speaker 4: conduct of my work.
Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, well, we reported the news.
Speaker 4: We reported the news.
Speaker 3: Now you go out there and you know what, find
Speaker 3: someone who lives on the Isle of McDonald near the
Speaker 3: Arctic and kick their ass today. Fuck them up, fuck
Speaker 3: that island.
Speaker 4: Do trade with the penguin? Pay ten percent?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, send us a picture of you fighting a
Speaker 3: penguin and we'll make sure you get a hat or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll send you so much. Be reported the news.
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