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Speaker 1: Also media.

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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling

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Speaker 2: economic world, and what this means for you. I'm Garrison Davis.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by Robert Evans, James Stout, and Mio Wong.

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Speaker 2: It is a liberation day in America. Everyone. How do

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Speaker 2: you feel? I feel liberated.

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Speaker 3: Last, free at last, Thank God Almighty, we are free

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Speaker 3: at last for being able to afford things.

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Speaker 2: I am so so liberated.

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Speaker 4: Right now, unchained from a burden of having money.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well, as the Buddhists say, you know, freeing

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Speaker 3: yourself from attachment is really the path to nirvana.

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Speaker 2: Trump really is our first Buddhist president, is.

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Speaker 4: One thing they say about him. That's right.

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Speaker 3: He may be the new Dali Lama who can say

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Speaker 3: the Dhali Lama and he hasn't but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and the priests who for him after he

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Speaker 4: dies when he comes back. This guy's Unfortunately, they're probably

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Speaker 4: on a fucking travel band list.

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Speaker 3: Now, oh my god, there's I mean, pretty good chance

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Speaker 3: they're in ice custody at the moment.

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Speaker 4: If I understand buddhistm.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we should just get right to the

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Speaker 2: most pressing news, which is line go.

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Speaker 4: Down, Line, Line is on its way down. Yeah, line

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Speaker 4: in free fold currently. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because they chose they were supposed to initially.

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Speaker 3: I think it was like going to be three pm

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Speaker 3: or something. E St two or three was the initial

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Speaker 3: time they wanted to announce this, which would have given

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Speaker 3: the stock market a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Hours on April second, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, on April second, it would have given it Liberation Day.

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Speaker 3: On Liberation Day, there would have been a couple hours

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Speaker 3: for it to take effect, and they attempted to mitigate this.

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Speaker 4: I guess in the hope that we would all get

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Speaker 4: over it overnight, we would forget some other ship before

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Speaker 4: the new prices. Even Kevin, we'd be like, ah, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm on in the next thing. But the Dow and

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Speaker 4: the Nazi all all plunged because it's clear if the

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Speaker 4: president is like deliberately shifting an event to not hurt

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Speaker 4: the stock market, that's going to hurt the stock market,

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Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, yeah, it's good. When you see a

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Speaker 4: ninety degree angle on the old stock market graph, that's

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Speaker 4: when you know someone's really crushing it. In the economic delip.

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Speaker 3: And so far we were recording this a little afternoon

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Speaker 3: on Thursday, the April third, So just in the course

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Speaker 3: of today, major stock indexes have dropped by about five

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Speaker 3: point six percent, which means about two point seven trillion

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Speaker 3: dollars in market value, which will be the largest decline

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Speaker 3: since March of twenty twenty sick. So we are it

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Speaker 3: is looking like this is going to be, at the

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Speaker 3: very least a stock market decline in line with the

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Speaker 3: one that came as a result of the global pandemic,

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Speaker 3: with the noted caveat that there's really no reason to

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Speaker 3: believe it will get better at any point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can't ready vaccinate against you bid.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not qualified to give financial advice, but I

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Speaker 2: think everyone should pull out your four O one K

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Speaker 2: right now, go to the bank, withdraw all your money,

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Speaker 2: all of it your accounts ripe.

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Speaker 3: Put it into the worst tasting survival foods, and you're

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Speaker 3: gonna want to buy kel texts, lots of col texts

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Speaker 3: in a caliber no one.

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Speaker 4: Else has five to seven. Get the one that doesn't

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Speaker 4: eight thirty two ACP. I won the thirty two ACP.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 4: That's it, James. Everyone buy thirty two ACP and guy,

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Speaker 4: it's exceeded in ending one World war, and right it

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Speaker 4: won't let us down. We call that doing a hitler,

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Speaker 4: but in a good way.

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Speaker 6: Someone here has to be vaguely responsible and say, don't

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Speaker 6: fucking do that. Do none of those things zero zero

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Speaker 6: of those into your accounts, get hard cash.

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Speaker 4: Mark Cuban told people to do that. Absolutely not Mayor

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Speaker 4: endorses Reagan Coin is the exclusive safe source of the

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Speaker 4: time savings.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna want to put every dime you've got impressed latinum.

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Speaker 3: Now I know that that's the currency from star Trek

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Speaker 3: and does not exist. Nevertheless, cancel your accounts, put it

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Speaker 3: all in latinum.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna exist in like what like forty

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Speaker 2: years per time.

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Speaker 4: On the ground, it's not already a meme coin ten

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Speaker 4: minutes off to discussion, more.

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Speaker 2: Stable than your four oh one k.

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Speaker 4: Right now, you can be rich just in time for

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Speaker 4: money to stop being a thing. There you go, there

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Speaker 4: you go. Yeah, this is why we're launching cools on

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Speaker 4: coin guys for years. It's redeemable for whatever money the

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Speaker 4: Ferengi use when they exist.

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Speaker 2: We should probably talk about why the stock market is

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Speaker 2: doing poor Leah, So I think Robert, you can handle

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Speaker 2: this segue.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, wait, what is that? Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: Is that Mina Wong's theme music by God?

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Speaker 7: Locks right, jasp, locking.

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Speaker 5: Locking, jasp.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, that was a great purchase, you guys. I mean,

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Speaker 3: can we all agree with every penny?

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Speaker 2: Really was the best financial partise we've made is the

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Speaker 2: tariff talk theme. Thought, it's gonna get so much mileage

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Speaker 2: out of that thing.

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Speaker 4: It's an un I'm gonna be using this fucker for

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Speaker 4: years at least something good came of face. When you're

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Speaker 4: struggling to get by with your family, just remember the song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this will keep you warm as you huddle

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Speaker 3: around a barrel waiting for the uh, the new police,

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Speaker 3: which are just called murder police to reach your shanty

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Speaker 3: down anyway, Pah.

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Speaker 6: Let us talk tariffs. Power. Sections of the left have

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Speaker 6: long argued is in logistics. It was logistics that allowed

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Speaker 6: the capitalists of the nineteen seventies and eighties to crush

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Speaker 6: the labor movements by enacting the so called spatial fix

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Speaker 6: to the Crisis of capitalism by shifting production from countries

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Speaker 6: where workers' movements were strong to countries where violence against

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Speaker 6: CEOs could pit workers against each other in an endless

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Speaker 6: Infused with the international attack on unions and the power

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Speaker 6: Now there was, of course resistance to this, maybe most

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Speaker 6: the bosses, and the capitalists to rule the world. However,

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Speaker 6: in this view, you didn't need to form a union,

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Speaker 6: you didn't need to organize, you didn't need to fight

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Speaker 6: the boss who exploit you. All you needed to do

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Speaker 6: for the high paying blue collar jobs of the nineteen

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Speaker 6: bring jobs back home. This American nationalist ideology was extremely

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Speaker 6: useful to the ruling class. It allowed them to turn

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Speaker 6: to impose more brutal austerity and more pro capitalist reforms, too,

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Speaker 6: in their view, make it impossible for their power ever

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Speaker 6: the nationalism bred by the defeat of the worker's movement.

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Speaker 6: The human personifications of the capitalist bubble economy in Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump and Elon Musk, have come to see their own

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Speaker 6: victory as defeat. They became convinced that the trade deficits,

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Speaker 6: which from a capitalist's perspective, simply do not matter as

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Speaker 6: long as companies are making money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, they no better for shit? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Juse the fuck we're calling a trade deficit? Is us

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Speaker 3: getting things we want from people?

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, it's buying stuff Like I saw a

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Speaker 4: good post. It was like, you don't have a trade

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Speaker 4: deficit with your dentist. You just pay them to fix

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Speaker 4: your teeth. Like, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 3: I was told at one point in this nation's greatest

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Speaker 3: living previous moment of crisis, that what we needed to

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Speaker 3: do was go buy things to make it better.

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Speaker 6: Not anymore, buddy, Nope, because because these people, Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: and Elon Musk and the cadra of weird white nationals

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Speaker 6: fanatics sets around them have absolutely convinced themselves that if

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Speaker 6: you have a trade deficit, you are being ripped off

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Speaker 6: by foreigners.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 6: And so they concluded that we needed to put tariffs

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Speaker 6: on fucking all of the rest of the world in

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Speaker 6: order to bring American jobs back to Americans. A new

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Speaker 6: national autarchy for a fascist world. Now, the ruling class,

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Speaker 6: all the capitalists, all these fucking goddamn Golden Sax, motherfucker

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Speaker 6: financial analysts, all of these CMBC dipshits, all of these

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Speaker 6: fucking all these motherfuckers at black Rock and all of

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Speaker 6: the global hedge funds, and all of these all these motherfuckers,

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Speaker 6: all of the tech dipshits, all of the people who

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Speaker 6: backed Trump to a hilt, simply assumed that none of

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Speaker 6: that he was lying out of his ass. And you know,

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Speaker 6: Obama again I've said this before, ran an abolishing NAFTA.

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Speaker 6: So there was you know, and what the fuck ever

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Speaker 6: came from that, right? We of course fucking tried to

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Speaker 6: tell them otherwise. We tried to tell them that they

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Speaker 6: could not fucking control the fascist beasts, that one day

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Speaker 6: it would rise to consume them all along with us.

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Speaker 6: They didn't care. They backed Trump anyways because they thought

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Speaker 6: they would get fucking tax breaks. And now Liberation Day

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Speaker 6: is here.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget Crypto. They were really bulletshot back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all of these motherfuckers. They really thought that

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Speaker 6: Trump was going to fucking that. Literally, all Trump was

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Speaker 6: going to do was punish the transgenders, get rid of woke,

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Speaker 6: and give them tax cuts.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm yep.

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Speaker 6: And now if the terrorfalls have gone up, the old

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Speaker 6: world is dead, the new world struggles to be. Now

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Speaker 6: is the time of monsters.

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Speaker 2: Now we're in what I'm what I'm referring to as

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Speaker 2: the Chinese Century. I came up with this this this

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Speaker 2: week on my own.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, hmm yeah, good.

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Speaker 3: Now that's that's of course named after Chinatown in San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: which Garrison is very bullish about. Uh, positive, positive real

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Speaker 3: estate developments there. Uh, you're big into real estate. People

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Speaker 3: don't know that.

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Speaker 6: Chinese real estate absolutely where you want to be right now,

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Speaker 6: both both in Chinatown and in actual China. You put

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Speaker 6: all your money in the Chinese real estate. The bubble

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Speaker 6: can't pop a second time, can only go back up.

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Speaker 4: It does.

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Speaker 3: There were so many like enemies on the verge of

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Speaker 3: economy is doing great, Russia could have been easily pushed

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Speaker 3: to collapse, and we were just like, na, no, no,

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Speaker 3: you know what's better. We're gonna shoot ourselves right in

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Speaker 3: the dick.

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Speaker 4: We've snatched defeat from the get ourselves in a dick

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Speaker 3: It's sort of like Michael Jackson coming back for Space

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Speaker 4: It's a good movie. Anymore. Garrit said, it's forevitainted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get to the tariff's terrible, terrifable, terrifable. That's right, Garrison.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So okay, so let me let me, let me

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 6: Fifty four percent tariff on all goods from China. This

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Speaker 4: Also, speaking of the China panic, our strongest geopolitical ally

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like we we just we we have literally and

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Speaker 4: It's such a weird move.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty four percent tariff on Japan.

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Speaker 6: I have been angry about this since the fucking election.

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Speaker 6: This is not a fucking tax. This is the wholesale

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Speaker 6: But like you know, like you're probably not gonna be

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's done. Like the economy as we

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Speaker 6: like unbelievably hideously cruel. So, for example, a forty four

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Speaker 4: No, like we've seized their government assets in the United States, Like, yep,

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Speaker 6: And there's one more that I want to talk about,

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Speaker 4: Yep. You know, we always say we know like to reefs,

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Speaker 4: but we do like these ads. We're back. I don't

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Speaker 6: But now there is a funny part of all of this.

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Speaker 3: It's entire people have like reverse engineered the prompts. It's

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Speaker 4: Amazing that they're doing the same ship as like my

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Speaker 4: undergraduates and the people are doing the same shit. Sure

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Speaker 4: Ja most of them a smart enough to to like

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Speaker 6: I want to give a lot of credit to the

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Speaker 6: So their formula and this is drawing for something. I

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Speaker 6: counting goods. Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, again, if if you're missing the products and just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, especially provides an enormous number of services. You know,

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Speaker 6: But these people are fucking fascists and so they don't

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Speaker 6: It's it's the same ideology that undergirds the whole thing

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Speaker 4: Literally, the only real job is that one video of

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is the only job.

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Speaker 4: That is the manager and was just doing that for

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Speaker 4: the video and was doing it very wrong. You've got to.

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Speaker 2: Take some pieces of metal, move them around to where

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Speaker 4: Labor, labor that's working. Only jobs are things where you

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Speaker 6: That's and that's the thing that because like their image

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Speaker 6: so the fascists have asked chat GPT how to do tariffs,

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Speaker 4: Like it's literally at you know, what are we what

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 4: Look just because I'm imagined differently.

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Speaker 6: Okay, there is no scientific basis Robert for for for

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Speaker 4: That's what you say, Joe Rogan, and I feel it everently.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's just they asked chat GPT.

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Speaker 3: It's a mix of they don't actually care or think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's smarter than them. Yeah, it would just

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Speaker 6: Well well, and you can you can tell the extent

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Speaker 6: like calculated it. The White House said no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: that the formula is just it is literally just trade

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Speaker 6: random variables as Greek letters. But there's one on the top,

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Speaker 6: but there's one of the numerated, one of those denominator

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Speaker 4: That sounds right to me.

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Speaker 2: That's how you know they're smart. It's because they're using

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Speaker 4: Yep, which Greek letters did they use? And which person's

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Speaker 4: fraternity does it represent?

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Speaker 3: I don't even speak Greek letters, so they are They

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Speaker 3: must be smarter than me, you know what, I rescind

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Speaker 6: This is how the economy dies, not through tragedy but

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Speaker 4: It's both. Yeah, tragic fuss, I think is what Marx

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Speaker 6: I mean, like, like, my actual serious line on this

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Speaker 6: of the labor we produce and hands us back a

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Speaker 6: bunch of fucking scraps that pay for not enough of

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Speaker 6: anything that we need. So even as our enemies, you know,

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Speaker 6: terror part the system that exploits us, we are the

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Speaker 6: fucking ones who's going to suffer. Neoliberalism finally has in

442
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Speaker 6: Trump produced its own grave digger, and our fucking job

443
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Speaker 6: and the job of every single one of us and

444
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Speaker 6: every single person listening to this show is to make

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Speaker 6: sure that we also aren't the ones thrown into this

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Speaker 6: fucking grave. And this is going to require a kind

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Speaker 6: of organizing that is in some ways like but in

448
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Speaker 6: some ways unlike anything we've done before. We are we're

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Speaker 6: about to experience a level of unbelievable economic chaos that

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Speaker 6: we sort of saw during twenty twenty. But during twenty

451
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Speaker 6: twenty there was you know, as bad as everything got,

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Speaker 6: the state stepped in and decided to do welfare reforms,

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Speaker 6: right like, they gave people a bunch of fucking money. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 6: and it wasn't enough, but they did it. Now, none

455
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Speaker 6: of that shit. He are the only people who are

456
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Speaker 6: going to be able to keep each other alive. And

457
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Speaker 6: that's that's what we have to be doing right now,

458
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Speaker 6: is we have to be keeping each other alive until

459
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Speaker 6: we are organized enough and we are powerful enough to

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Speaker 6: fucking run these people out so they can't ever fuck

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Speaker 6: us again like this, so.

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Speaker 2: We can resurrect neo liberal globalism. We can restore free trade, that's.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's right, and bring it back to the Clinton era.

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Speaker 6: Oh god. One last thing we should mention is that

465
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Speaker 6: like this is already united the entire world against us. Effectively,

466
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Speaker 6: people countries who have never worked together before in their

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Speaker 6: entire existence are working together.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately, Poles also show Americans can distrust or the

469
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Speaker 3: tendency to view like Canadians and the EU as enemies

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Speaker 3: is rising both Republicans and Democrats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's great. That's great, cool cool, cool cool

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Speaker 4: cool cool cool.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. And also you know, and like the thing, the thing,

474
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Speaker 6: the other thing that we have to do here, and

475
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Speaker 6: this is this is literally our responsibility on this podcast

476
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Speaker 6: and also just ability of like fucking everyone who was

477
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Speaker 6: having conversations with another person is that this is entirely

478
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Speaker 6: Trump's fault. He fucking did this. Like, oh yeah, this

479
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Speaker 6: is not fucking the EU or whatever the fuck whoever's

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Speaker 6: doing retalitory show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is no one else ever wanted this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, no, like the people who put Trump in

483
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Speaker 6: power didn't want this.

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Speaker 1: This is just him.

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Speaker 6: And so yeah, the the actual solution to this is

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Speaker 6: all of us running this fucker out and not us

487
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Speaker 6: getting drawn into his fucking bullshit wars with Canada or

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Speaker 6: Greenland or whatever the fuck country he decides to invade

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Speaker 6: in the next year.

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Speaker 4: Is that all for tariff talk?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's all we got on the terrace.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just I'm just looking at the numbers

494
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Speaker 3: right now where the Dow Industrial is down a fifteen

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Speaker 3: hundred points since the start of the day, So it's.

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Speaker 4: Things are looking very good.

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Speaker 7: Yea.

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Speaker 3: All of the lines, like if you look at the

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Speaker 3: in which the line went down, there's like it's just this.

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Speaker 4: Direct vertical drop on the third Yep, it's shocking. So

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Speaker 4: it is a ninety degree angle.

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Speaker 6: It is legitimately if you set the Google stock viewer

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Speaker 6: thing to a one day view, the drop is so

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Speaker 6: shocking that it looks like it just started down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it prompts you to turn your phone in the

506
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Speaker 4: other direction. I've never seen anything like it, but I

507
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Speaker 4: guess no one has. Yeah, no, I mean some of us.

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Speaker 4: I guess people still alive in the nineteen thirties. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 4: Woody Guthrie has fucking grandma. I guess, like, Yeah, it's great.

510
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Speaker 4: We did it in the nineteen thirties. It was bad

511
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Speaker 4: then and it's bad now.

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Speaker 2: Well, now that we got those pesky tariffs out of

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Speaker 2: the way, let's talk about the actual most important thing

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Speaker 2: to happen this week. In the news, New Jersey Senator

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Speaker 2: Cory Booker has broken the record for the longest yea

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Speaker 2: twenty five hours in five minutes. Yeah, that's horrible, beating

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Speaker 2: Strom Thurman's filibuster of the nineteen fifty seven Civil Rights

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Speaker 2: Bill by forty six minutes.

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Speaker 4: We did it. Vokes excellent, outstanding, good. I'm just checking

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Speaker 4: on Ah Wall Street bets and they're having a real

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Speaker 4: one today.

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Speaker 6: That's pretty I will say. I will say the thing

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Speaker 6: about the Booker won. So if you were writing a

524
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Speaker 6: parody of the Democratic Party, you would write that Corey

525
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Speaker 6: Booker did this and like, did this filibuster and then

526
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Speaker 6: immediately turned around and voted yes for a cloture vote

527
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Speaker 6: to allow Trump to appoint another nominee. And that's exactly

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Speaker 6: what they did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't even you.

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Speaker 6: Can't perry to them. It's beyond parody. I like, it's astounding,

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Speaker 6: it's astonishing.

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Speaker 2: It's not even a filibuster. He's not filibuster or anything.

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Speaker 6: We didn't.

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Speaker 4: He didn't actively stop anything happening other than people not

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Speaker 4: paying attention to it. I got a response from someone

536
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Speaker 4: being like, well, you know, they didn't get to do

537
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Speaker 4: anything on Monday, and I was like, yeah, they weren't

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Speaker 4: really planning on it and things continued as normal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And you know, and here's the thing about that, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: do you know how many Democrats there are in the Senate.

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Speaker 6: Do you know how many hours you could filibuster them

542
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Speaker 6: for if you were actually determined to fucking do this,

543
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Speaker 6: and on how many different things.

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Speaker 2: We had a rotating series of Democrats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, show it if you tag teamed it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but they're not They're not willing to fucking do it.

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Speaker 3: No, and they'd be stopped eventually the Republicans would do

548
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Speaker 3: something fucked up to stop it.

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Speaker 4: But at least you'd have tried, Yeah, yeah, and people

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Speaker 4: would maybe take some fucking energy from that. And even

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Speaker 4: if you were gonna do this as a fucking show

552
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Speaker 4: vote thing, you could have voted no one the cloture

553
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Speaker 4: motion to like fucking do the to like appoint the

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Speaker 4: next nominee. But they're just like no, fuck you.

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Speaker 2: Mention the fact that Chuck Schumer caved on the Republican

556
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Speaker 2: budget from a few weeks ago. Yeah, and secretly got

557
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Speaker 2: a number of Democratic senators just which their votes to

558
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Speaker 2: make it pass. Yeah, and no one did this for

559
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Speaker 2: for that which which previously Democrats were talking about this

560
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Speaker 2: budget bill like it's the worst thing to ever happen

561
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Speaker 2: because it is a bad bill. Yeah, it's really bad.

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Speaker 2: And then they just caved last minute, or specifically Schumer

563
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Speaker 2: and the people he talked to caved. And Schumer definitely

564
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Speaker 2: would not have been in supportive of Booker doing something

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Speaker 2: like this for that bill. But now Schumer gets to

566
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Speaker 2: applaud along as as Booker delivers a twenty five hour

567
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Speaker 2: maybe like well orated speech, but it was.

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Speaker 4: A very well written speech. Like technically it was good,

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Speaker 4: but that didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It's just this pure show of like symbolic theater.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the point.

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Speaker 3: It's like if a congress person got out and conducted

573
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Speaker 3: like a perfect rendition of the Nutcracker like symphony of

574
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Speaker 3: like the ballet portion of that on their own in

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Speaker 3: front of like the Capitol building, Like, well, it's impressive,

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Speaker 3: it's spectacle, Like you're clearly very good at what you're doing,

577
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Speaker 3: but it didn't change anything, like it had no impact

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Speaker 3: on the problems.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, like you're good. I'll give you that.

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Speaker 4: Corey Booker can deliver a fucking speech, but that was

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Speaker 4: really not what I was looking for. Yeah, fiddling impressively burned,

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Speaker 4: thanks Corey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and every single moment the Trump is in power,

584
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Speaker 6: the way the way that they fucking just rolled over

585
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 6: for him looks worse and.

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Speaker 4: Worse because he said, I failed, and so did we.

587
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: We didn't rise to the moment, and we let this

588
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: horrible thing happen, which I even I got a little briefly.

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Speaker 4: Oh shit, maybe he actually recognizes like, no, okay, well.

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Speaker 2: Because it took him like twenty hours to like break

591
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Speaker 2: emotionally to the point where he could like admit that

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Speaker 2: to himself.

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Speaker 4: His deep, deep deep failed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but like it took having your brain be

595
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: be shattered by this like pretty impressive physical act that

596
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: like destroys your body, soul and spirit. And anyway, I

597
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Speaker 2: think that's all we have to say about that. Let's

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Speaker 2: go on and ad break and come back to discuss

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Speaker 2: more sad and I'll actually also possibly good news or

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Speaker 2: at least bad for Elon Musk which is good for us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we are back.

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Speaker 2: I think let's pivot to James Stout for an update

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Speaker 2: on Venezuela. Well, no El Salvador, Salvador the torture labor prison.

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Speaker 2: James m hm.

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Speaker 4: Of course. We have to begin my segment today by

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Speaker 4: saying tepe rosbi to Abdullah Ojulen, whose birthday it is

607
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Speaker 4: on the day that you are hearing this. So if

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Speaker 4: you want to plant, if you want to plant a

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Speaker 4: tree for appo, get it. Get out there and plant

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Speaker 4: your tree. Unfortunately, that is the only good news we

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Speaker 4: have today. Border Patrol to spend most of this week

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Speaker 4: touting the quote lowest number of border crossings in history.

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Speaker 4: It will shocked listeners to hear that this is not

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Speaker 4: historically accurate. Bordering counters are way down. If there's one

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Speaker 4: thing that I have ever taught you, it is that

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Speaker 4: bordering counters are not the same as unique ind visuals

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Speaker 4: because people are being sent directly back to Mexico and

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Speaker 4: will tend to return attempting a different route crossing the border. Right,

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Speaker 4: there's our way down. And they're the lowest since they

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Speaker 4: began publishing monthly data in two thousand. But numbers were

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Speaker 4: wailer in the fifties and sixties and before then. It's

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Speaker 4: relatively immaterial. It's just sort of a nipiggy point. I

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Speaker 4: guess today, what I really want to talk about is

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Speaker 4: the case of mister Kilmar Abragor Garcia. He was removed

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Speaker 4: by the Trump administration to els Albador to Secot in

626
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Speaker 4: a way that they have admitted was a mistake. So

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Speaker 4: we have to go back a little bit to understand

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Speaker 4: mister Abergo Garcia's story and how we got here. He

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Speaker 4: was arrested in mid March due to the United States

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Speaker 4: government claim that he played a quote prominent role in

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Speaker 4: MS thirteen. MS thirteen being the Salvadorean gang. He'd come

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Speaker 4: to the United States in twenty eleven he was fleeing

633
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Speaker 4: gang violence. He was allegedly arrested in twenty nineteen outside

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Speaker 4: a home depot where he was standing with other men

635
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Speaker 4: looking for work. However, the incident report for that particular

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00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: incident gives other names, but not his. At that point,

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Speaker 4: a Prince George's County Police Department detective filled out a

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Speaker 4: quote gang worksheet and claimed that mister Abergogarcia was associated

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Speaker 4: with a member of MS thirteen. The evidence he cited

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Speaker 4: for this was a Chicago bulls hoodie and the claim

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Speaker 4: of a confidential informant. The competition informant claimed that he

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Speaker 4: was part of a group within this gang that was

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Speaker 4: set up in a state that mister Abergagarcia had never

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Speaker 4: lived in the United States. In twenty nineteen, Ice argued

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Speaker 4: that he shouldn't be given bond because of this alleged

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Speaker 4: gang membership right, and so he wasn't given bond, but

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Speaker 4: through an asylum claim. Although he didn't get asylum, he

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Speaker 4: was protected from removal right, so a judge ruled that

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Speaker 4: he couldn't be removed back to El Salvador, where he

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Speaker 4: would presumably face violence. When mister Abergogarcia's lawyers tried to

651
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Speaker 4: interview the police detective who had filed this report accusing

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Speaker 4: him of gang membership, they found no record of his

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Speaker 4: rest and that the detective has been suspended since then.

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Speaker 4: The department question also settled a lawsuit with its own

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Speaker 4: corps over racism in the department. JD Vance, who has

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Speaker 4: a law degree right the JD is I guess before

657
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Speaker 4: and after his name. He has a law degree from Harvard,

658
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Speaker 4: has claimed that mister Abergo Garcia is a convicted member

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Speaker 4: of MS thirteen. This is not true. I can't find

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Speaker 4: any evidence he has any conviction of any kind. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to quote here from a filing by the United

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Speaker 4: States government on the fifteenth of March. Although ICE was

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Speaker 4: aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrigo

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Speaker 4: Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error.

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Speaker 4: So the government there has admitted in a court filing

666
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Speaker 4: that they accidentally sent this guide to the prison labor

667
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Speaker 4: camp in El Salvador. Right, according to ICE acting field

668
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Speaker 4: Officer Robert Cerner quote, he was an alternate as others

669
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Speaker 4: were removed from the flight for versarious reasons. He moved

670
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Speaker 4: up the list and was assigned to the flight. So

671
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Speaker 4: it appears that they had a large list of people

672
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Speaker 4: they wanted to put on this flight. This is interesting, right,

673
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Speaker 4: It's an insight into their process fulfilling that first flight

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Speaker 4: that they some people they cally didn't feel they had

675
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Speaker 4: enough evidence for. But somehow this guy, who again has

676
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Speaker 4: never been convicted of having any membership of any gang,

677
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Speaker 4: they put on this flight. Right, His wife and child

678
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Speaker 4: are both US citizens and they have sued in court.

679
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Speaker 4: That's why we're seeing this, right. They've sued for the

680
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Speaker 4: United States government to stop paying El Salvador for his

681
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Speaker 4: detention and for the United States government to demand he returned.

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Speaker 4: Vance has advanced a kind of unique legal theory in response,

683
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Speaker 4: claiming that withholding of removal only prevent someone being deported

684
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Speaker 4: back to their home state. I mean you could technically

685
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Speaker 4: that is what the withholding is, right, Like, it's like,

686
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Speaker 4: he can't go back to El Salvador because he will

687
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Speaker 4: be at risk in El Salvador. So so they can

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Speaker 4: deport him to a third state. But they deported him

689
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Speaker 4: to Well Salvador, or renditioned him to Well Salvador. Right,

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Speaker 4: I want to read JD. Vance's post here. I'm not

691
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Speaker 4: going to read the whole thing, but I'll start with

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Speaker 4: the second paragraph. In twenty nineteen Immigration judge parentheses under

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Speaker 4: the Biden administration. For those of you who are familiar

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Speaker 4: with dates, it's at twenty nineteen, was under the first

695
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Speaker 4: Trump administration. That was that was the Trump administration. Yeah,

696
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Speaker 4: moving on, determined that the deported man was in fact

697
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Speaker 4: a member of the MS thirteen gang. He also apparently

698
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: had multiple traffic violations for which he failed to appear

699
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Speaker 4: in court, a real winner. It is telling that the

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Speaker 4: entire American media is going to run a propaganda operation

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Speaker 4: today making you think that an innocent quote father of

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Speaker 4: three was apprehended by a gulag. Father of three is

703
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Speaker 4: in quotes here, by the way, Yeah, yeah, And gulags

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Speaker 4: generally not capable of doing the apprehensions themselves. If we

705
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Speaker 4: think of a gulag as a place, is the police

706
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Speaker 4: who are apprehend the person send them to the gulag.

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Speaker 4: Moving on, here are the relevant facts. I'm still quoting.

708
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Speaker 4: The man is an illegal immigrant with no right to

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Speaker 4: be in our country. Obviously, the judge determined that he

710
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Speaker 4: was protected from removal. Quoting again an immigration judge during

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Speaker 4: the Biden I've been determined he was a member of

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Speaker 4: the MS thirteen gang. Again, that's not the case.

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Speaker 6: It's staggering the extent to which they can say a

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Speaker 6: sentence where every single individual word is a lie. Like stunning.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The fact that so many members of the Modern Republican

717
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Speaker 2: Party have like memory hold twenty nineteen to twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: as being under the biden In administration is just insane.

719
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bizarre. I think what they're referring to is

720
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Speaker 4: that the initial hearing right where he was denied BOMB

721
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Speaker 4: was in twenty nineteen, and then he filed his asylum

722
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Speaker 4: claim and later was protected from removal. But that's not

723
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Speaker 4: what they're saying here.

724
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Speaker 2: But like even the way they talk about, like the

725
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Speaker 2: COVID response, they talk about it as if Joe Biden

726
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Speaker 2: was the president.

727
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Speaker 3: They're not gonna lock us down again. But you locked

728
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Speaker 3: us down, Yeah, who did that? And then the last one,

729
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Speaker 3: I think it's most rebelatory because he's not a citizen.

730
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Speaker 3: He does not get full jury trial by peers. In

731
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Speaker 3: other words, whatever due process he was entitled to he received,

732
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Speaker 3: the immigration court doesn't generally present the opportunity for a

733
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Speaker 3: jury trial. Right once again holds a JdE and he

734
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Speaker 3: presumably knows this. What's more disturbing is the claim made

735
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Speaker 3: by the United States government in its filing in this

736
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Speaker 3: lawsuit that the Abergo Garcia family filed quote because plaintiffs

737
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Speaker 3: conceived that Abergogarcia is not in the United States custody,

738
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Speaker 3: this court cannot hear these claims. So they're claiming that

739
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Speaker 3: no US court has jurisdiction over the question of these

740
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Speaker 3: people who are in El Salvador because they're not in

741
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Speaker 3: US custody, right, which obviously if they stick the landing

742
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Speaker 3: on this, it suggests that like it is a one

743
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Speaker 3: way ticket to the prison labor camp, right, that you

744
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Speaker 3: cannot challenge that in US court, and you ain't going

745
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Speaker 3: to get very far in court in El Salvador.

746
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Speaker 4: Right. So what they're suggesting here is this, this is

747
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Speaker 4: a forever detention, that there is no habeas right. That

748
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Speaker 4: was they were asking for, Hey, colpus.

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Speaker 6: Can you spen my haabest Corpus actually is for the listeners.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it means bring me the body, right in this

751
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Speaker 4: case is.

752
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to present evidence in order to charge

753
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Speaker 3: like convict people and things.

754
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the cnequa non of having a justice system,

755
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Speaker 4: a criminal justice show something. Yeah, you can't just be

756
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Speaker 4: like bad man and then put the guy in jail.

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Speaker 3: The most basic thing is that like, yeah, I mean

758
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Speaker 3: in literal terms, it means you have to like actually

759
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Speaker 3: take somebody in front of a court in order to

760
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Speaker 3: determine if they're like being detained for a reason, right,

761
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Speaker 3: Like a judge has to see them and say like, yes,

762
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Speaker 3: this is this is not an unlawful imprisonment. There is

763
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Speaker 3: a charge, there is some degree of evidence that somebody

764
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Speaker 3: did something.

765
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Speaker 4: Right, which they have not provided here.

766
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Speaker 3: Right, not that like you can prove they did it,

767
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: but like something was done and you are here for

768
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Speaker 3: that for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so in this case, we we don't have any

771
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Speaker 4: of that. Mister Abrigo Garcia is still the way his

772
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Speaker 4: family found out he was in second was that his

773
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Speaker 4: wife identified him by scars on his head when they

774
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Speaker 4: shaved it, and at tattoo they saw Jesus Christ. Yeah,

775
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: they had no idea. It presumably doesn't come up on

776
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Speaker 4: the ICE detainee locator. You know that you're going to

777
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: look up your family members and if your family members

778
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Speaker 4: are detained by ICE, doesn't have L Salvador as an option.

779
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Speaker 4: So yeah, this is where we're at. This is a

780
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Speaker 4: case I will be following, right because I say it's

781
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Speaker 4: pretty pivotal. If they can argue that the court doesn't

782
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Speaker 4: have jurisdiction. Obviously, I'm sure at that point that ruling

783
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Speaker 4: will be challenged and it will run up the courts. Currently,

784
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 4: it seems like the only court they're going to listen

785
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: to is a Supreme court. But evidently that this is

786
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Speaker 4: what they're going for, Like, this is their argument here

787
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Speaker 4: that once you're in l salbad or you're out of

788
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Speaker 4: their hands and they can't do anything. So sorry, even

789
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Speaker 4: though it was a mistake, you're stuck there forever, which

790
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Speaker 4: is pretty disturbing.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, me and James did an episode on ICE's targeting

792
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Speaker 2: of students at scholars and professors that they believe are

793
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: associated with Palestine protests. So we did an update on

794
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 2: that story that I did a peace on or a

795
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: segment down last week on executive disorder. So for a

796
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Speaker 2: follow up on that, you can look to yesterday's episode.

797
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Speaker 2: But we are going to close with I guess kind

798
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Speaker 2: of a feel good story because it makes Elon Musk sad.

799
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Speaker 2: He has had a bit of a bit of a

800
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Speaker 2: rough week for mister Musk's businesses and his political projects.

801
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Speaker 2: I guess Elon Musk's efforts to buy the Wisconsin Supreme

802
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Speaker 2: Court have failed, as the Democratic backed candidate swept the election,

803
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Speaker 2: maintaining four to three Liberal control of the Supreme Court

804
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Speaker 2: of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the gist of it is of like three

807
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Speaker 4: or four days ago, all of my friends from who

808
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Speaker 4: are Scani's got furious because Elon Musk wore a cheesehead,

809
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Speaker 4: you know, like the ones for the packers that the

810
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Speaker 4: people from Wisconsin ware when they're at games while he

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Speaker 4: got up on stage and gave of a million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Basically immediately before, like about little less than a week ago,

813
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Speaker 3: a higher court ruled that it was not bribery for

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Speaker 3: him to offer people a million dollars at random if

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Speaker 3: they voted or showed up at like you know, different

816
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Speaker 3: rallies and stuff, which is like what he's been doing, right,

817
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Speaker 3: is making these basically fake offers of a million dollars

818
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Speaker 3: because these two went to members of the local Republican party,

819
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Speaker 3: like it was clearly set up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the head of the College Republicans of Wisconsin, amazing

821
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Speaker 2: must fish twenty five million dollars leads on this race.

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Speaker 2: He danced around on stage wearing a cheesehead, and he

823
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Speaker 2: gave out million dollar novelty checks to quote unquote voters

824
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Speaker 2: who won a contest by signing his petition against activist judges.

825
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Speaker 2: Which has been the new rallying cry on the right

826
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Speaker 2: is that everything that's going wrong, everything that's stopping Trump,

827
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Speaker 2: is from these active studges that we have to unseat.

828
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Speaker 2: He also gave one hundred dollars each to every person

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Speaker 2: who signed that petition, and on election day, Musk offered

830
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Speaker 2: voters fifty dollars if they posted a picture of a

831
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin resident outside of a polling place. How is that allowed?

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Speaker 2: These are the same people who scream about like election interference,

833
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Speaker 2: rigging elections, buying elections to the elections ed like, like

834
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Speaker 2: this is insane stuff. You can go to jail for

835
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Speaker 2: giving people a water bottle in line at polling places

836
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Speaker 2: in multiple states. And Musk is allowed to give people

837
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Speaker 2: fifty dollars for pictures posted outside of polling places. What

838
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Speaker 2: the fuck is happening? But luckily, the negative polarization against

839
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Speaker 2: Musk and Tesla that's been increasing the past few months

840
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: has resulted in Judge SUVN. Crawford beating the mega hat

841
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Speaker 2: Republican judge who last year went as Donald Trump for

842
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Speaker 2: Halloween beating this guy by by ten percent. This was

843
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Speaker 2: a massive, massive reversal of the twenty twenty four persential

844
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Speaker 2: election results in Wisconsin. There was a record high turnout

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Speaker 2: for this spring election, forty percent higher than the last

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin Supreme Court election. Which was in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: which was.

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Speaker 6: By the way, that was also a high turner election too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, but that that previous one, then this

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Speaker 6: one just fucking obliterated it.

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Speaker 2: Like this was like just under the results of like

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Speaker 2: what you would expect to out of like a midterm election.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They shifted every single county in the state blue compared

856
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Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty four presdential election, and on average

857
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Speaker 2: by about ten to twelve points. Massive, massive chefs.

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Speaker 6: And this was before the terriiffs, by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: like this this was before the terrors announced.

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Speaker 4: No, this was pure personal dislike of Elon musk meddling

861
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 4: in Wisconsin politics well like and everything else has happened

862
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 4: since January, but like it does seem like Elon Musk's

863
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Speaker 4: personal presence was a net negative and all the money spin.

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Speaker 6: Luckily.

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Speaker 2: The next day there was a Tesla sales report which

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Speaker 2: was one of the worst in the history of their company,

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Speaker 2: fifty percent fewer vehicles being delivered in the first three

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Speaker 2: months compared to last year, with Tesla's stock continuing to

869
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Speaker 2: plunge the past week, although with reports that that Musk

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Speaker 2: might exit the inner circle of the Trump administration. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: those stocks are kind of flipping back and forth as

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Speaker 2: he's expected to return to his company.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and who know, like a lot of that's clearly

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Speaker 4: the tariffs. Well yes, and then with the tariffs, this

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Speaker 4: is a whole other issue, real double whammy for TESLA.

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Speaker 3: The reporting is that people around Trump have largely soured

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Speaker 3: on Musk. Who knows how true that is. There's always

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Speaker 3: a lot of like reports from the Trump inner circle

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Speaker 3: that are like, I don't know, it's yeah, he's always

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Speaker 3: had a very leaky yeah, but and I can see

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Speaker 3: it being multi causal, Like Musk has failed badly in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: The kind of suspicion right now is that Skibble or

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Speaker 3: whatever name is was down about five points relative to

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Speaker 3: other MAGA candidates in the same election, which people are

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Speaker 3: attributing largely to Musk's intervention.

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Speaker 2: Well, and like they were testing out if he was

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Speaker 2: like a stable, consistent, reliable political operator, or if what

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Speaker 2: he did in twenty twenty four was kind of like

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Speaker 2: a one off event, if he's like a one trick

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Speaker 2: tony there, and and this this complete like devastating loss

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Speaker 2: demonstrated that maybe this unstable drug addict no offense a

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Speaker 2: specifically for Elon Musk, who's railing ketemine all the time

894
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Speaker 2: and trying to run the entire world. Luckily, Luckily, my

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Speaker 2: friends who who might indulge in ketymene don't try to

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Speaker 2: run the entire world.

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Speaker 4: You say that now, but you'll get older at some point.

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Speaker 4: It's it's of midlife crisis too.

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Speaker 2: But he was shown in like a very public way

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Speaker 2: to be to be like an unstable political force. And

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Speaker 2: and yeah, that's going to turn some of some of

902
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Speaker 2: the people in the Trump admins against him.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's I think that's all I have to say

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Speaker 2: about this Wisconsin right Wisconsin race.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, all right, well I think that's probably an episode.

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Speaker 6: Wait ship, hold on, I just I just found the

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Speaker 6: funniest fucking thing about this tariff I think i've seen

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Speaker 6: yet from fucking.

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Speaker 5: Rocking rocking jazz, rocking jazz, rocking jazz.

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Speaker 4: Bo Okay, we're back.

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Speaker 6: Tarently, the tariffs are not broken down by country. This

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Speaker 6: is quote from this guy in VFX on Twitter. They're

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Speaker 6: not broken down by country. They're broken down by top

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Speaker 6: level Internet domain. It's why the island's populated entirely by penguins.

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Speaker 6: The dot hm domain. And why the Diego Garcia military

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Speaker 6: base Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like fucking McDonald's island, yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 6: And why why Renon and Gibraltar our.

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Speaker 4: Yeah like yeah what love Reunion is part of France.

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Speaker 4: Why are we hitting these guys? It's because they use it? Okay,

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Speaker 4: that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: That that that is that that is what a nineteen

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Speaker 3: year old who never went to college. My god, but

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Speaker 3: thinks he's he understands all of reality would do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great dictatorship of Chad GPT fucking phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: Mynd fucking god, unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: Look, look, okay. The note I want to close on

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Speaker 6: is that so podcaster Mike Duncan that the creator of

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Speaker 6: the Revolutions podcast, a man who has spent literally tens

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Speaker 6: of thousands of hours writing about like every revolution that's

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Speaker 6: ever happened. At the end of the original run of

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Speaker 6: the series Revolutions, he makes this point, which is that

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Speaker 6: all revolutions work because they encounter you encounter one of

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Speaker 6: the great idiots of history, a man who is blessed

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Speaker 6: with with the the the inalienable ability to make the

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Speaker 6: wrong decision at every single time. And my god, if

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Speaker 6: we can't beat these motherfuckers like it that she's entirely

939
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Speaker 6: on us because we have been handed one of the

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Speaker 6: greatest idiots of history that has ever existed in the

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Speaker 6: history of humanity, and our fucking job now is to

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Speaker 6: turn that into fucking a better world.

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Speaker 4: Do something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll see the problem is that there's a

945
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Speaker 3: lot of greater idiots out there, and they all do

946
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Speaker 3: still have guns and money. One of the great tragedies

947
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Speaker 3: of the world is that very very stupid people can

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Speaker 3: still fire guns.

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Speaker 4: We made them too easy, folks. Yeah, I've I've seen

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Speaker 4: that happen a couple of times. Yeah, in the old

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Speaker 4: conduct of my work.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, well, we reported the news.

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Speaker 4: We reported the news.

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Speaker 3: Now you go out there and you know what, find

955
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Speaker 3: someone who lives on the Isle of McDonald near the

956
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Speaker 3: Arctic and kick their ass today. Fuck them up, fuck

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Speaker 3: that island.

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Speaker 4: Do trade with the penguin? Pay ten percent?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, send us a picture of you fighting a

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Speaker 3: penguin and we'll make sure you get a hat or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll send you so much. Be reported the news.

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