1 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: All right, ba fam, I am so excited. 2 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: B a q A. 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: I stole Chris and y'a Nelly and they're sticking around 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: to take y'all's questions. Welcome to the brand ambition. QA 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: yan Nelly. You haven't done a QA with us, have you? 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: No? I have? Oh, I do one with Tiff. I 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: think on the episode where me and Tiff were when 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: you were just had just popped. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh he just pop, Oh my baby. Okay. I was like, yep, 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: what like when I get out of bed whole and 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: everything pops like that? 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 4: No, it snap, crackle pop like you popped out a baby. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Oh man. Well, b a qa, y'all have questions, We 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: have answers with the lowercase A. I like to say, 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: get your salt shakers out, because you're not gonna sue us. 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: This is infotainment. It is information from people who are 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: pretty smart and know some stuff, but for entertainment purposes. Okay, 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: we're not your financial advisor or your financial planner, so 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, sue someone else, just not us. Don't come 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: for us, all right, and please submit your questions. You 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: can hit us up on IG. You can send us 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: a d M. A voice message is fine on ig 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: or just a regular old text message. You can also 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: email us Brand Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. All right, 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: we got some good questions today. So the first question 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: is from someone who's anonymous and wants to know. I 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: have been following your podcast for over a year and 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: we have a question for you. Can you recommend a 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: good auto refinance company for me? I hate Capital One, 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: It's not an option, thank you auto refinance. So this 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: is like, you have an auto loan and you're not 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: happy with the rate or like the monthly payments and 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 1: you want to REFI have you guys done that before? 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: I have refinanced, Like I'm not refinanced a car loan, 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: but I have just like done like a credit card 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: consolidation before. And yeah, I mean I feel like it's 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: hard to say there's one really good company because which 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: you should really be doing is shopping around so that 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: you can get the best rate. Especially right now, rates 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: are starting to change. 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: You the rates are starting to drop. 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: So you know, somebody might have just dropped their rate 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: a little lower than somebody else, and it's kind of 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: on you to do that due diligence to find the 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: best option out there for you. Rather than just saying, oh, 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: you know, well I heard Capital one is good or 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: not good kind of you know, shop around and compare 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: lenders until you find one that's going to give you 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: the best deal. 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: I've heard of a company. I heard about them a 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: little while back called Auto Approof. They're supposed to be 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: a company that will help you go out and find 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: a good refinance deal for your auto loan and help you. 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: With the process like a marketplace. 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're kind of like walking through the process 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: and get you through there. I haven't haven't checked them 58 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: out in a little while, so I don't know what's 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: going on right now with them, But that's one but 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: kind of again I was saying, also checking out your 61 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: local areas. Your credit unions are a great place. But 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: then you know, if you I'll be curious where they're 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: at in their auto loan, Like, are they like a 64 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: couple of years in did they just start? Because I 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: mean the way they set up these auto loans, you're 66 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: paying kind of like a mortgage. You're paying most of 67 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: the interests up front in the beginning, and it kind 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: of tapers off as you go. So if you're like 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: getting that midway point you probably already paid a ton 70 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: of interest at this point, and sometimes refinancing kind of 71 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: just resets that clock and might call you can get 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: a lower rate. You might end up paying more interest 73 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: over the life of the loan, so you might want 74 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: to just take time kind of think about it, play 75 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: with a couple of little auto loan calculators, kind of 76 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: just see where you're at. 77 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to my former employer, lending Tree, because 78 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I ran the content team there for like five years. 79 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: And lending Tree is a marketplace too, so if you 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: want to shop and compare, that's their whole platform is 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: you can compare rates among different lenders. Now, they will 82 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: be calling your ass when you submit for that free quote, 83 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: so use the number that you don't answer all the time. 84 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, but. 85 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: Set up a Google voice number. 86 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: That's kind of Yes, that's exactly. But using one of 87 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: the sites as great, and you know they take some 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: of the legwork out for you. But yeah, that's a 89 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: really good point, Chris, like pros and cons of auto 90 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: refi is you know, it's a good point. It's also 91 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: one of those things where sometimes if your payment is 92 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: just too high and you're like the cash flow. You're 93 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: having cash flow issues, you will make a bad decision 94 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: for the good of your finances sometimes, and I mean 95 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: the the bad decision being you know, let me refinance, 96 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: even though it's going to be more expensive over time, 97 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: but it's going to give me relief maybe in the 98 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: form of like a lower payment today. That may be okay. 99 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: So as you know that, as long as you know that, 100 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: because the worst scenario is that you make the decision 101 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,119 Speaker 3: under the guys or like thinking that you are saving 102 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: yourself money or making a financial responsible choice, and then 103 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: when you run the math later, you go, damn, I 104 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: really got screwed because now I'm paying more in the 105 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: long run. But if you are aware that you're doing that, 106 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: and you're kind of in a situation where you're like, well, 107 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: this one time, I kind of have to do it. 108 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: It's going to be two or three years like this, 109 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: and then I'm going to get back on track. Fine, 110 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: But I do think a lot of people end up 111 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: making these choices without the full clear picture. 112 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: That's kind of the heartbreaking part. 113 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: But Mandy, you're asolutely right, there's gonna be times sometimes 114 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: you just gotta you gotta do what you have to do. 115 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: For the short term and not necessarily focused just on 116 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: the long term all the time. 117 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, car payments are so expensive. 118 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: Now, girl, the average car payment is a thousand dollars 119 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: here thousand dollars a month. Late twenty twenty four, the 120 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: average car payment was one thousand dollars a month. How 121 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: the hell all the people these cars? 122 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to figure out. I wish I 123 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: would have give someone a thousand dollars a month for 124 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: a car. 125 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: Car, Chris, is it paid off? What you got? 126 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: Pay off? My car is eleven years old. I paid 127 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: the thing four years ago. 128 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: For five A long time car about to hit puberty. 129 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: You have a car I've never driven. 130 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: I don't have a driver's license, honey, will you Brooklyn? 131 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: I got a bunch of Metro cards in my wallet still, 132 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: even though I live in Miami. 133 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: So that's how New York I am. 134 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: But no, I've never owned a car. 135 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: How do you guys get around? 136 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: He's a Jersey boy. He definitely has a license to. 137 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: Okay team, so we're a good partner. Privilege. 138 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: I'm a passenger princess. I'm a professional passenger princess. 139 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: When I am I couldn't even get behind the will 140 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: if you. 141 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: Wanted to, for real, not safely. 142 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: No, No, I feel bad for him if he ever 143 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: needs you to take him somewhere. 144 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 2: I know we are. 145 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: I could do. I could do the basics, but like, 146 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: if I'm on the highway, I might. You could do 147 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: the basics that drive on the like I could drive 148 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: on the street, like I could drive on the street 149 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: with pedestria and driving and souff. But if I'm on 150 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: the highway, the freeway, like, my heart is gonna come 151 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: out of my chest because I'm so scared. 152 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: Because cars is the easiest thing for me. 153 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: No, it's too fast, it's too meet a car. 154 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: That drives for you, you know. 155 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what I'm gonna just wait until the 156 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: cars are all self driving and be like, oh look, 157 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: I don't even need to get the license thing because I. 158 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: Don't understand that I'm born and raised inside of California. 159 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: Car payment and I told y'all, I opened up about 160 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: having two cars now, and I just like, man, that's 161 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: my goal is to get that ish paid off. First 162 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: credit card debt. 163 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: Ugh, it's a lot. And that's one thing I will say. 164 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: I've talked to my little brother and my niece about this, 165 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: and I told them, I said, honestly, the one thing 166 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: that I did early like that helped me was I 167 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: never had a car, like I took the subway. When 168 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: I worked in New York City, I took the subway 169 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: to work every day, I packed my lunch. I was 170 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: like super savior. And then when I moved to Miami, 171 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: I kind of like live in a building that's in 172 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: an area where like everything is right here, Like my 173 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: supermarket is right downstairs, the dentist is up the block, 174 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: like there's everything. The airport is fifteen minutes away. So 175 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: my Uber and Lyft rides every month are probably like 176 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty dollars, no more like in a 177 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: month where I spent a lot, it'd be like three hundred. 178 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: But I don't pay insurance, I don't have a car payment. 179 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: I don't pay for gas, I don't pay parking, I 180 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: don't pay tolls, I don't pay so it kind of 181 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: is like just two fifty on spending. When I need 182 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: to travel and take an Uber here there, it's fine 183 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: for me. 184 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I read at Metro North Pass 185 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: costs out here and wessitors, so yeah, Transit costs. 186 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: And even with the paidoff car, I'm paying that much 187 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: in gas and insurance and registration every month. So it's 188 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: like you're not you in the same position just by 189 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: not having a. 190 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: Car, right. Auto debt is just not cute? All right, Anonymous, Well, 191 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: thank you for your question. That was from IG. We're 192 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna take a little break and come right back with 193 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: our second question. All right, VA, family are back. I'm 194 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: joined by Janellies Finale and Chris Browning. Welcome to the 195 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: BA Roundtable QA for the week. So I have something 196 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: that I love, which is when a listener who we 197 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: answered their question before kind of like follows up with 198 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: us to let them know what's happening now. So just 199 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: a quick follow up from listener Kathy who says she 200 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: reached out to us. I'm trying to remember she reached 201 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: out to us last year and the episode is called 202 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: no Job, It's Worth a health decline. At the time, 203 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: she had a job at one of the top universities 204 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: in the country. She was saying she commuted up to 205 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: three hours to get to work, so that means five 206 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: hours five to six hours total round trip. Yeah, three 207 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: days a week. She works from home two days a 208 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: week and then she's asked her current job for a 209 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: moving bonus or for more support and staffing, but they've declined. 210 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: At the time and she was asking us, she said 211 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: she might have a full time job lined up that's 212 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: ten minutes from where she lives, but she'd be taking 213 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: a twenty five percent pay cut in a lower title. 214 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: So if she wanted to know, what did we think, Well, 215 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: we had encouraged her to choose what's best for her 216 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: life and for her health and that long ass commute, 217 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: like the mind like the exhaustion of that. I mean, 218 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: I think at the time we had been pretty much 219 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: like girl, like for your health and your sanity. Twenty 220 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: five percent is you know, plus the like we just 221 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: mentioned about cars, the gas, travel costs, traffic, yes, maintenance, 222 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: all that. So Kathy wanted to follow up. She said, 223 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: I put in the work to find a position that 224 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: has allowed me to have a better work life balance. 225 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: I recently accepted a position thirty minutes away from my home. 226 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting the same pay as my previous job, more 227 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: work from home pays, and more professional development. Shout out 228 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: to Mandy for the negotiation tips. Thank you again. Keep 229 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: being great girl. 230 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: Kathy. 231 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: I'm so happy for Kathy because that is huge shaving 232 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: like thirty minutes there and back. That's an hour a day. 233 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: That's so much better than five to six hours. 234 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what type of commune. 235 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: My goodness, I mean our Journey to Launch. 236 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say it works for people 237 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: who have like a goal that they need that time day, 238 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 3: they can use that time for Like Jamila used to 239 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: listen to podcasts a lot, and then because she was 240 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: so in tune with podcasting, because as being a listener, 241 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: she was able to create such a high quality podcast 242 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: that like, yeah, everybody knows Journey to Launch. It's like 243 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: super it's such a great, well known podcast. Why because 244 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: she had listened for hours and hours and hours during 245 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: her commutes and kind of knew how to make a 246 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: good podcast that she would want to listen to as 247 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: a you know, loyal podcast listener. So I do think 248 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: if you can use that time, you know, as in 249 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: transitioning to something, that it will benefit you somehow. It 250 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: can work out. But in the long run, yeah, man, 251 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: nothing is gonna just drive you to the ground, drive 252 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: your health down, so your mental health and just robs 253 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: you so much time, Like when you're home is late 254 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: and you're just like, how did the whole day escape me? 255 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: Because all I did today was just go to work, 256 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: and you don't have time for yourself. So I do 257 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: think at some point having a transition plan is so important. 258 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: But man, congrats to Kathy, because thirty minutes from six 259 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: hours ooh from five hours is huge. 260 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, Kathy, and thank you for 261 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: following up. Y'all, if we've answered your questions and you 262 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: want to follow up, please do, please do, okay. Our 263 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: final question for today is from listener Shakira, who sent 264 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: us Shaki Tha. Shaki sent us a DM on IG. 265 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: She's got some credit card debt, she says, about seven 266 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a credit card debt. She says, my credit 267 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: is excellent and I make decent money. I feel like 268 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm going a little bit backwards because I do have 269 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: some investments in stocks are worth about the same amount 270 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: I have in debt. This is not my four to 271 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: one K, but my side personal investments. So she's got 272 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: about seven k in credit card debt and seven K 273 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: and then her personal investments. So Shakira wants to know 274 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: what it makes sense to cash out the stocks that 275 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: I have to pay off my debt and then just 276 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: start investing again after the debt is paid off. Thanks 277 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: in advance. Oh, this is a good question. I'm very 278 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: curious to hear what you guys have to say. 279 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let Chris take it first. 280 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: I have thoughts. 281 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: You go first. Okay, when do you not have thoughts? No? 282 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: I got a lot of sight, but Chris first. 283 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: All right, I'll be quick. I'm gonna give you more 284 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: of the time here for me. I mean, that's a good, 285 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: good question because you think about it, like, I don't 286 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: know what the interest rates are your credit card, but 287 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: I'm assuming they're not great. 288 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: Twenty something, right, probably even with great credit twenty something, Yeah. 289 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: It's still crossing twenty. Now, the likelihood of you getting 290 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: that same type of return on your investments, I mean, 291 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: it might happen, but it's not guaranteed. The average will 292 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: be much slower than that. I mean, so just mathematically, 293 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: I could see the relief going from doing that. But also, 294 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 2: is it something that you realistically could tackle in a 295 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: few months? You feel like if you had three, four 296 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: or five months, you could just pay this off through 297 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: your regular payments. If I if that's the case, I 298 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't rush to cash out that investment because you may 299 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: not be able to put that back. Maybe you'd not 300 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: gona be asciplined to put that money right back in again, 301 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: So you're costing yourself. You may just like eliminate that 302 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: investment option that you're doing all together. And there could 303 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: be some tax implications too. I don't know what type 304 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: of account this is. If it's in the brokerage account, he 305 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: may have had some gains he might have to you 306 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: might end up owing taxes, which is going to eat 307 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: into whatever you would have pulled at anyway. So I 308 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: would say, if you feel confident that you could tackle 309 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: this on your own, and you know three to five 310 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: months through regular payments, I would go that route. But 311 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: if you're like, no, it would take me a couple 312 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: of years to pay this off monthly, I would consider 313 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: it because you'd be paying so much more an interest 314 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: than you probably would be making by just letting us 315 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: sit there. 316 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: How I love that answer, Chris. I was about to 317 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: say the tax part for sure, Like I just that 318 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: is the number one piece of investing that most people 319 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: do not consider because of the way that it's structured 320 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: and set up right. If you were to sell your 321 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: investments today January whatever date it is, let's say January 322 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, you sell your investments, you don't see 323 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: any taxes, you don't see any tax hit. You take 324 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: out whatever you take out, and that number is what 325 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: you get to send to the credit card companies, and 326 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: you think the problem is solved and you're done. But 327 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: come tax ses in twenty twenty six. You're going to 328 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: owe those capital gains taxes, whether they're short term capital 329 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: gains taxes, which means it's the same income tax brackets 330 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty five year for your income or 331 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: long term capital gains which could be zero percent, fifteen 332 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: or twenty percent. So you have to figure out where 333 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: it's going to be based on your income again, and 334 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: which means at the end of the day, you still 335 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: have to do the math and kind of decide for yourself, like, 336 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: is it better for me to delay this and do 337 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: just the tax bill that I'm going to owe in 338 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: the spring of twenty twenty six by selling my investments 339 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: now and getting rid of the credit card. That gives 340 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: me a few months to come up with that money 341 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: that I'm going to owe when I file my taxes, 342 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: or would I rather not deal with that and just 343 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: pay the interest for a couple months until I pay 344 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: off that seven k. It's all a numbers game, right, 345 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: So if the numbers don't make sense to kind of 346 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: do it monthly and the seven k is a lot 347 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: for you. To Chris's point, it might make sense. But 348 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: in a lot of cases, like people just discount, they 349 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: just do not consider those taxes, and it comes around 350 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: and it shocks people and it surprises people, and it's like, wait, 351 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: hold up, what because by the time it comes around, 352 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: you done forgot about it because you sold those stocks 353 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: so long ago. 354 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: So I really do think cost basis right, what. 355 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: Is cost basis and what's long term capital gains versus 356 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: short term capital games. I didn't even know there's a 357 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: difference in those brackets. So I do think if you 358 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: run the math and it makes sense long versus short term, 359 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: make the choice that makes sense mathematically. But to Chris's point, 360 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a psychology piece to this too, 361 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: that if you are if your life is going to 362 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: feel exponentially better and you have a weight completely lifted 363 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: off of you knowing that the credit card that is 364 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: not there and that you're not paying twenty nine point 365 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: nine percent interests, then you might want to do it. 366 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: And just now you have time to start preparing a 367 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: separate how you'd savings account where you put a little 368 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: bit of money every month so that when taxes comes around, 369 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: you have the taxes that you will owe because you're 370 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: buying yourself time right with that money. So I do 371 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: think that's kind of the factors that matter the most 372 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: in the decision making process. 373 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: I love both of those perspectives. The other thing I 374 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: will add, speaking from experience, is the cash flow problem 375 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: typically is why people end up in debt. So you 376 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: don't have enough coming in, so you're putting things on 377 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: credit cards that you don't have the cash upfront to 378 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: pay for. And sometimes that's fine, Like I mean, sometimes 379 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: you just you haven't been paid that month yet you 380 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: want to get something you have money coming in, but 381 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: it can start to creep up on you, right, So 382 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: I would just caution you, Shakiras, to really get dedicated 383 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: to a budget so that when you pay off this 384 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: credit card debt, whether you're doing it with you know, 385 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: selling your stocks to pay it down or paying it 386 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: off over time, try to get to the heart of 387 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: how did that seven thousand dollars accrue? It's not the 388 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: most I've ever heard of in credit card debt. Certainly 389 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: I have way more than that myself, but I do 390 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: worry about, you know, if you can pay it off 391 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: with the stocks right now, but then it kind of 392 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: like starts to creep back up because some of like 393 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: the core underlying issue, which is probably the budget, hasn't 394 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: been resolved and that can be hard to confront. That's 395 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: why let me let me speak some good on one 396 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: of my partners, Rocket Money. Have you guys used Rocket Money. Yeah, 397 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm a new personal finance app. I really love it. 398 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: Ei there's a free version and a little bit more 399 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: paid premium version for like six bucks. But I've been 400 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: loving it personally, I mean genuinely, genuinely enjoying it because 401 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: it has helped me so much visualize my spending in 402 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: my cash flow, and it's been like a really good 403 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: route awakening to have this app. 404 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: So I just usecourageons that could sometimes be eating away 405 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: at your cash flows. 406 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't realize what a generous what 407 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: a generous uh, donator, I am donor, donor, I am yep. 408 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: I've been donating fifty dollars a month since twenty twenty 409 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: to a food bank here, which is amazing, but like, also, 410 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: that's six hundred dollars a month that I could use. 411 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: Twenty five dollars a month is aclu, I'm donating like 412 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: twenty five a month of planned parenthood. I had to 413 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: send some emails. 414 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was me, would save the Children. I did 415 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: that with Save the Children, and I had two three 416 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: years and I was like, wait a minute here, I 417 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: think I gave enough. I think I'm at a point 418 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: where I need to start thinking them home. Yeah, very cool, though, No, 419 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: but you gotta be real. 420 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Two hundred meals to Westchester. I'm like, great, I feel 421 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: good about that now. 422 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: And if you're in a position, if you're in a position, 423 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: that's fine. Like I'm I'm in a position now where 424 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: I can give Save the Children one hundred bucks a 425 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: month and it's not going to make or break my finances. 426 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: But back when I was trying to pay off my 427 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: credit card dad, that was not the case. So it 428 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: really is about your situation and where you're at. So 429 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: just be real with yourself, but Mandy one hundred percent 430 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: agreed the budgeting is usually the root of it. 431 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: M M. 432 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: Well, good luck Shakira and thank you for your question. 433 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: Now BA fan police, submit your questions. 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