1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: All right, second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off now, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: and we have some updates for you on the numbers, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the post debate numbers. For example, this one Michigan poll 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: from Insider Polling, you have Trump forty nine, Harris forty eight, 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: other one percent. I believe RFK Junior is on that 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: ballot still, Clay, is that correct? 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Yes, guys, based on the Michigan Supreme Court decision that 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: may or may not get appealed on a federal level. 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: But yes, right now he is on that ballot. 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Look, it's cool, it hasn't nothing's happened yet, and so 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm willing to withhold withhold my angst over this. But 12 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: we've got a one point race in Michigan right now 13 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: according to the latest poll that I can that I 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: can see here, and a third party candidate getting one point. Now, 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: we don't know what exactly that one point would who 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: that would go to, but I've got some ideas. So 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a big deal. But the point here, what 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: I think is is a a good indicator of things 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: is that right now, Uh, there are some polling, there's 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: some polling that shows Trump actually up a point or 21 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: two from where he was before the debate. In Swing States, 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: there has been nothing, nothing to suggest that there is 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: any like major fallout from the Trump debate, not that 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: I would think there would be, but it's it's effectively 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: what we thought, which is that there has been some 26 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: marginal movement here and there, and I think that in 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: terms of the polling, it's largely a draw. Uh. And 28 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons for this is that 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: I know that you know, if you're if you're complaining 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: about the refs, you're losing. I understand that, but also 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: like if the ref if you find out that the 32 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: refs were paid a bag of cash before the game, 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: like sometimes the refs really are a problem. And I 34 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: think that ABC News crossed over into that territory where 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: any honest observer would say, wow, this is like this 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: is pretty out of hand. Not just Trump voters anyway, 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: but they're also the focus on immigration that has illegal 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: immigration that has come out of all this clay. You know, 39 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: I think that there's there's still a lot of back 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: and forth over whether or not anybody has taken pets 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: or ducks in a park and and hilled and eating them. 42 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: And I would not have advised Trump to have jumped 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: on that issue. I think that's, you know, while that's 44 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: very visceral and and has impacted the news cycle this week, 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: I think that the the bigger issues of immigration, of 46 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: illegal immigration, notably, and really just the the wide openess 47 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: of our of our border policy, not even just at 48 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: the US Mexico border. People are flying into the country 49 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: now on these parole programs that Biden has set up 50 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: where and you're they're applying on in apps on their 51 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: phones in foreign countries. One hundreds of thousand people coming 52 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: to the country. It's a it is a complete mess. 53 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: And here's a story. For example. Here is a Springfield, 54 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Ohio resident whose mother in law was killed by somebody 55 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: covered under TPS Temporary Protected Status from Haiti play twenty three. 56 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: Everyone is talking about the death of ducks and cats 57 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: in this town that I'd like to talk about the 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: death of one very special person, my mother in law, 59 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: Kathy Heen. On December first, I received a phone call 60 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: that changed my life forever. She was collecting her trash 61 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: can from her driveway when I struck and killer instantly 62 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: atash she had done over two thousand times spanning four 63 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: decades in Springfield. That morning, though, a Haitian immigrant was 64 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: allegedly driving recklessly when he struck and killed her. 65 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I say allegedly because to the state. 66 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: There's been no punishment, not even for the expired tags 67 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: on the vehicle he was driving. 68 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, Clay. There are many more stories, and Trump 69 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: has been talking to some of the families of people 70 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: who have had There have been deaths there, I mean murders, 71 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: There have been rapes. There have been the most serious 72 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: of crimes committed by people who in some cases should 73 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: have never been allowed into the country period, and other 74 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: cases came into the country illegally then sort of scammed 75 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: the system to manage to stay after their illegal entry. 76 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: These are people who should be more grateful to the 77 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: American people and show a greater focus on not causing problems, 78 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: obeying our laws, and beings as thankful as they possibly 79 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: can do whatever community they choose to spend their time 80 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: and while they're under TPS or whatever. And we keep 81 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: seeing these stories, and the stories are very upsetting because 82 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: people realize it didn't have to be this way. 83 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: This is super important. The illegal immigrant crime rate in 84 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: America should be zero. I want to repeat that because 85 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: it's really important. And I feel like sometimes we don't 86 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: drill down to the essence of an issue. That is 87 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: an awful story that that woman just told. But there 88 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: are stories like that in every major city in America, 89 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: many rural areas, every state. American citizens are being killed 90 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: by illegal immigrants who should not be here. I wish 91 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: we had a crime rate of zero. Statistics are going 92 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: to reflect that that is impossible anywhere. We should try 93 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: to drive down crime to the lowest possible level. And 94 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: when citizens of the Union United States commit crimes, there 95 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: should be severe consequences. But there should be an illegal 96 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: immigrant crime rate in this country of zero. And I 97 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 2: cannot imagine if you are so unfortunate that your family 98 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: member is a victim of a violent crime, that you 99 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't be through the roof furious if that violent criminal 100 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: should have never been here and making it even worse. 101 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: Very often, buck what the case is that violent criminal 102 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: has often been arrested for a previous crime and not 103 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: had any consequences at all, and released to continue to 104 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: recavoc upon our streets. The Lake and Riley example is 105 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: a perfect one. University of Georgia, just off the campus 106 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: in Athens, Young nursing student goes for a jog gets 107 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: murdered by an illegal immigrant. That it should have never 108 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: been here. Every community in America now of any decent 109 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 2: size has a lake and riley. And so for people 110 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: to say and that, you know what the response to 111 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: this is. The response to this is typically, well, illegal 112 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens. 113 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: That's the defense. That's not a defense. 114 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: First of all, you can argue about whether that's going 115 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: to be the case going forward, because most of the 116 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants coming into this country right now buck are 117 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: men sixteen to forty, And most people who commit violent 118 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: crimes in America, guess what age they are, men sixteen 119 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: to forty. But even if that is true, on a 120 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: statistical basis that illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower 121 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: rate violent crime, the rate should be zero. 122 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: That's all. 123 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: We should have a border and not allow anybody in. 124 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: But that's the defense they try. 125 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: To talk point use, that's a garb that's a garbage statistic. 126 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: And here's why they don't want to know how many 127 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: illegals commit crimes. Here's how many we have. That's the 128 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: other part of the course, right, But we don't even 129 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: have to die Yeah, that ties in together, right. I mean, 130 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: they don't want to know how many illegals are here. 131 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: They don't want to know how many illegals are in 132 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: the prison system. I mean, you could look at this. 133 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: The the information, the data on this is so scattered, 134 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: it's so hard to find. And yet if you were 135 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: looking and say, you know LA County's most wanted list, 136 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: you know who's the top ten on the LA counties, 137 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: You'll see suspiciously a high number of illegals in the country. 138 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: You'll say, oh, wait a second, because it'll say, you know, 139 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: so and so is an illegal entered the country. You 140 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: know killed three people. And now on yep, this idea 141 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: that the illegals who come into the country are are 142 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: somehow better than Americans also goes to this idea that 143 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: the illegals who come to the country are harder working 144 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: and they're going to contribute more. And this is what 145 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: the lunatics, and some of them are I would note 146 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: libertarians funded by corporate interests. They're liberty. There are lunatic 147 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: open borders libertarians out there. It's not just left wingers, 148 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: although they have the same attitude on this, which is 149 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: let America dissolve into nothing, turned into some economic zone 150 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: with a giant welfare state. But Clay they the data 151 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: on this is intentionally not collected by various state governments. 152 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: The data on this is also harder to get because 153 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: they won't work with federal law enforcement when it comes 154 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: to immigration status and all these different sanctuary jurisdictions, and 155 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: this notion that somehow they're going to be better than Americans. 156 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Who says this, I mean, think about there is no 157 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: country on the planet that is as diverse as we 158 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: are and that it has brought in as many people 159 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about apart from the invasion under Biden. I'm 160 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: just you know, we're very, very diverse country. And the 161 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: theory is that the people that are coming illegally are 162 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: going to be better than the three hundred and fifty 163 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: people that are here in terms of their work ethic 164 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: and they're leg Well, why would that be the case, Like, 165 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: in what world does that make any sense? In fact, 166 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: the economic burden and the cultural and social burden of 167 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: bringing non English speaking, generally not even educated to a 168 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: sixth or seventh grade level, people from the Third World 169 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: who are arriving here with tremendous needs medical needs. Uh, 170 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, social needs, all kinds of stuff that that 171 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: is going to be some huge benefit. We've we've got 172 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: a lot we had we had waves of single adult 173 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: male illegal immigrants come into the country, and a lot 174 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: of them work, you know, work in restaurants and they 175 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: work in the in the service industry and everything else. 176 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: Those jobs have been fitned. They working, you know, farming, 177 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: those jobs have been filled. What we've had more recently 178 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: is people coming from the other side of the planet 179 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: because they don't have to go through the normal immigration system. 180 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: If they lie and say they're scared of violence in 181 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: their country, the whole thing is a scam. Just what 182 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: everything I understand. Whatever you think the immigration system is 183 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: right now, it is worse than that, and it is 184 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: a choice that Democrats have made. 185 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: And the other thing that is so important, I think 186 00:10:53,760 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: is where people are coming from. Historically, people would come 187 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: from Mexico, they would cross the border, they would work 188 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: seasonally in the United States, and they would very often 189 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: go back home. The people who are coming here now 190 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: are never leaving voluntarily. 191 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: You're not paying for a plane ticket from Southeast Asia 192 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: or West Africa or wherever, so they can go home. 193 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: Correct, And if you walked through the frickin' Dairian Gap 194 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: to make your way all the way from South America 195 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: up to the United States. You're never going back home 196 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: ever again for the rest of your life. So it's 197 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: not only the immigration patterns, Buck, it's how much different 198 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: they are relative to historical norms. 199 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: And they're also ignoring so much law. People don't even 200 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: know this. I say these things, they look at me 201 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: and you know, people will argue with me online. And 202 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be in that. You're not allowed 203 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: to come to this country, even legally and become a 204 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: public charge. That's existing immigration law. Meaning even if you 205 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: come here and you're trying to get your green cart 206 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, you're not supposed to be able to go 207 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: on welfare. That's what Ederro immigration law has said for decades, 208 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: because there was some understanding that if we just become 209 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: open borders with a welfare state. Go back to Milton Friedman, 210 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: you cannot have these things. And this is not only 211 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: a massive economic burden, but it really is the slow 212 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: motion dissolution of our political union. Of our politic people 213 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: come from anywhere, you know, why shouldn't the thirty million 214 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: illegals in this country be able to vote. Ask a leftist, 215 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: they won't give you any real answer. Said, well, they've 216 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: been here, they're paying you know, they're working, they're not 217 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: paying in. But the other than Clay that they'll pay 218 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: income to half the country already doesn't pay income tax. Correct, 219 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: These are all going to be net beneficiaries of the state. 220 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: What's going to happen to them when they get into 221 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: their sixties. Who's going to pay for all the knee 222 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: replacements and the heart surgeries and the diabetes pills and 223 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, start to look at this stuff. This is 224 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: a disaster. 225 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: Also, what is the right number? I would love for 226 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: Kama to answer that question. What is the right number 227 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: of illegal immigran To me, the answer is zero. Democrats 228 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: do they want one hundred million illegals? Like, what would 229 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: be the number where the average Democrat politician would suddenly say, hey, 230 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 2: you know what, it's too much. 231 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: Here's a fun question, Clay. Ask any Democrat you know 232 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: what's the downside of illegal immigration? They won't give you. 233 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: They won't have an answer for you. I'm not even 234 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: saying that you can't talk about positives. You know, there 235 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: are you know, and this is whatever everyone starts to 236 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: look at the individual versus the overall policies, say oh, well, 237 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: I know I know this guy, and he's got a 238 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: law care business, and he works so hard. He's a 239 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: great family, and he's a great person. It's like, Okay, 240 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: that's one guy. We're talking about thirty million people. Yeah, 241 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: and we're talking about the buying that that puts on 242 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: the state. And you know this is we are reaching 243 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: the point of no return here. We may have already 244 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: reached it. Not gonna lie to you. I mean this 245 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: kind of goes beyond the election, where the debt is 246 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: too big to ever be tamed and the borders are 247 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,479 Speaker 1: too open to ever be closed because the other here's 248 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: a fun statistic that nobody talks about. And I wish 249 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: I wish Trump a little bit, wish you could have 250 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: gotten this in there, a little bit. You know, how 251 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: many people were deported Clay in twenty twenty three, including 252 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: people who were turned around at the border within one 253 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: hundred miles of the border and turned around immediately. Right, 254 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: Just do you have any any guests. 255 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: Who want for one hundred and forty Well, I was 256 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: gonna say thirty thousand, one hundred and forty two thousand. 257 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were call it three million who came into 258 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: the country that year. There are crazy and the year 259 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: before that it was seventy thousand. So when you look 260 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: at this, your chances now are about three million illegal 261 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: entries a year, and there's a chance that you might 262 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: be one of the seventy to one hundred thousand that 263 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: get sent back. You know, those are really good odds. 264 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: You got to have massive increase in deportations. Russ. It's 265 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: never stopped. Sorry, I got fired up, so I went 266 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: a little along here. We'll get into some of your 267 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: calls and thoughts on this too. If you're in the 268 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Springfield area and you want to tell us stories, Biden says, 269 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: none of the bad stuff is happening. 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We are talking about 296 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: all of the different lies that Kamala has told and 297 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: the question that is out there. Buck is that continues 298 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: to percolate. Will there be another debate? Because I'll just 299 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: point this out. In the twenty twenty cycle, Trump was 300 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: the worst version of himself in the first debate against Biden. 301 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: In the second debate, I actually think Trump was the 302 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: best that he has been in the presidential arenas since 303 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: he was president, And so a part of me thinks 304 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,119 Speaker 2: I'd like another. 305 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Bite at the apple. Maybe if I'm Trump. 306 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about this, and I'm 307 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: not sure that he's gonna want a debate again. But 308 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: I think think Kamala is so vulnerable that if he 309 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: went back and watched the tape, he would be like, Yeah, 310 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: I didn't give the best version of myself in that debate, 311 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: let me do it again. And I think he could 312 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: do better. But what's your kind of take on this? 313 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. I don't think. I don't think 314 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: it really matters at this point. I think that what's 315 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 2: gonna matter is is the ground game and the ad 316 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: spend in the key states. So I think live events 317 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 2: that Trump can do in Pennsylvania and Michigan, Wisconsin and 318 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: go right to the people have much We're gonna have 319 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: much more impact than you know who's watching the debates. 320 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: I think at this point the debates have a deminimous 321 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: impact unless you have a total catastrophe like what Biden did, 322 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: and that's not gonna happen for either side. 323 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: That's mine. 324 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: I think that's what's likely to see with the data 325 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: that this thing really didn't. 326 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: Move things very much one way or the other. 327 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: But we will see whether that becomes the case over 328 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: the next couple of days. 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I bring you good news. 348 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's not a done deal, but at least 349 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: it's a good news. A little SoundBite here, but I 350 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: love being able to tell you good things. And the 351 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: good news today is, according to the Cook Political Report, 352 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: they are officially forecasting GOP control of the Senate. And 353 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: that is in part because Tim Sheehy, who is the 354 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: former Navy seal and entrepreneur running in Montana, looking good 355 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: against John Tester in that state. Montana goes and then 356 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: it looks like you're at fifty one Republican two, still 357 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: in toss up status, but looking like it's going to 358 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: be at least fifty one forty nine with Republican control 359 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: of the Senate, which is a very good thing. It's 360 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: nice to now that hasn't happened yet, and I know 361 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: that people, you know, people can be wrong and predictions 362 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: gon to be wrong, but h cook political report. This 363 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: also lines up with what the trend has been for 364 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: a while here and what expectations have been. Democcrats have 365 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: a very difficult Senate map to defend this time around, 366 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: far more Democrat seats in play in a meaningful way 367 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: than on the Republican side. So no one, I think, 368 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: is Clay right. No one's surprised by this, but it's 369 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: just getting closer to being a reality. And we still 370 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: have to pedal to the medal for Trump. But at 371 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: least if they don't have unified government. I don't want 372 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: to go there, but it would limit the damage that 373 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: a Harris administration would be able to do somewhat. It 374 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: would be bad, but it would put the brakes on it. 375 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: It goes back in time too. As devastating as the 376 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: close loss we understand in the rig twenty twenty election was, 377 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: it actually I think was just as bad and got 378 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: very little comparable attention that we lost to Georgia Senate 379 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: seats which still are in Democrat control right now, which 380 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: is what allowed Biden to pass his multi trip billion 381 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: dollars spending bills, which led to the nine percent inflation. 382 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: I mean, if we had just won one of those races, 383 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: it would have severely curtailed whatever power existed there. So 384 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: if you're out there, and I understand Buck you me, 385 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: we're all fired up about what's going to happen in 386 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: the presidential election. But my goodness, Ohio, Bernie Marino has 387 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 2: been on this show several times. If you are listening 388 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: to us right now in Ohio, and I know many 389 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: of you are, because in recent months we have been 390 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: number one in Columbus, Cincinnati and also Cleveland, you guys 391 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: are great. We have a massive Ohio audience. You have 392 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: to turn out for Bernie Marino. You can't reelect Sharad Brown. 393 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: And then Montana's everybody listening in Montana right now. She 394 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: he is a must win election as well over John 395 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: Tester at a minimum if we win those two. And 396 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: you might say, Okay, Clay, why are you saying why 397 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: does it I'd like to look I'd like to win. 398 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to be campaigning with Dave McCormick cup in Pennsylvania, 399 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: going to have Sam Brown on in Nevada. Carry Lake 400 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: has been on this show a bunch. There are many 401 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: different Senate races that are important that can be won. 402 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: But Buck, I don't just want to have a fifty 403 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: one to forty nine advantage because if Kamala were somehow 404 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: to win, and these are older senators, I hate to 405 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: say it, but there are a lot of older senators. 406 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: One guy gets sick, one gal gets sick and suddenly 407 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: has a health concern and isn't able to continue, or 408 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: God forbid, somebody dies in a fifty to fifty senate. 409 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: Democrats take back control if they have the White House. 410 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 2: So you want to be up at least I think 411 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: a couple of seats so one older person's health doesn't 412 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: flip back control of the Senate to the Democrat party. 413 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: Clay wants to run up the scoreboard, which I like. Yes, 414 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: so let's run up that scoreboard. That would be that 415 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: would be excellent to that end, what is the best 416 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: the best pathway to get us there from here? On 417 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: the on the presidential side, look, we've got the Vance 418 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: Wall debate coming that that'll be more just uh, that'd 419 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: be more of like a political enthusiasts night, you know, 420 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to really care about this stuff 421 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: to watch that one. I think because not gonna it's 422 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: not gonna move the needle in any meaningful way. But 423 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: I think jad Vance is going to pick apart Tim Walls, uh, 424 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: pretty pretty handily. I mean, look, you can always fall 425 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: back on the talking points, right, you can always be 426 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: like Trump is a threat to democracy and I care 427 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: about the middle class. I mean, you know, there's it's 428 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: not hard to put in a mediocre debate performance in 429 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: this in these context, right. Look look at Kamala, you know, 430 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: Clay I went back and watched it. She gave practiced 431 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: and memorized speeches over everyone's like, Oh, she's more articulate 432 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: than I thought she'd be. On the policies, she learned 433 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: her lines. If you look at the questions that she 434 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: was asked by the moderators, which were always you know, 435 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: tilted to make it favorable for her anyway it did. 436 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: They could have asked, Kamala, what's your favorite break? What 437 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: food is? It was I'm a middle class you know, 438 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: I was born in middle class family, and I want 439 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: to help the middle class. And I know, well, we 440 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: asked you if you had Cheerio's or Kellogg's this point 441 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. She went straight with the reheard so and 442 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: you know, if someone's going to do that, you're not 443 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: gonna be able to corner them because they're not even engaging. 444 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: I think Jadvan's going to be very good on this. 445 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: But one thing here, should Trump debate again? Will he 446 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: debate again? Jd Vance weighed in on this, This is 447 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: cut twenty play it. 448 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 5: I do think the President had a very good night, 449 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 5: and I know the pundits are trying to tell this 450 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 5: story that Kamala Harris knocked him off his game or 451 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 5: got under his skin. But if you look at how 452 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 5: undecided voters reacted to last night, if you look at 453 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 5: the complete lack of any real specificity to Kamala harris plans. 454 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 5: This is a person who's been vice president for three 455 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 5: and a half years, has presided over record inflation, a 456 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 5: wide open southern border, and yet has these super vague 457 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 5: slogans for how she's going to fix it. If the 458 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: American people give for a promotion, I think most Americans. 459 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: Who saw that, they just don't buy it. 460 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 5: They don't believe that this person is going to be 461 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: radically different than she has been in the past, three 462 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 5: and a half years. So I think the President had 463 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: a great night. 464 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: It's ultimately up to him. 465 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 5: Obviously, he likes these debates and he's good at them, 466 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: so I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to step 467 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 5: back in the ring. But I also wouldn't be surprised 468 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 5: if he doesn't. 469 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: So, you know, could go either way. I think. I 470 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think there's gonna be another presidential event. 471 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: I don't feel strong in this one though, so don't 472 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: think you're getting a stake bet out of this one. 473 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: I could go either way. I would if I were 474 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: designing this right now. First of all, I think Fox 475 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: News should host a debate, and as you said yesterday, 476 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: I think the reality is Fox would be right down 477 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: the middle. 478 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: Now. 479 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: I know Trump went on Fox and Friends on Wednesday 480 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: morning and said he didn't want Brett Bayer or Martha 481 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: McCallum anymore. I think he'd like the guy after us 482 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: to do a debate, Sean Hannity or Jesse Waters. 483 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: It would be great. But you know, I can understand, 484 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: I can understand a little bit why the Democrats would 485 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: quake in their boots on that one. 486 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: Kavel is not going in with Sean Hannity or Jesse 487 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: Waters or Klay Travis or Bucks. I still think my 488 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: idea is actually great television and also would be very 489 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: explanatory for the average American voter. Of Trump picks the 490 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: person that he wants to ask questions of Kamala Harris, 491 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris picks the person that she wants to ask 492 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: questions of Donald Trump, and maybe you end up with 493 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: in that scenario a Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow moderated 494 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: debate with Hannity asking the questions of Kamala and Mattow 495 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: asking the questions of Trump. I think if that were 496 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: to occur, Kamala would crumble against aggressive, but honest and 497 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 2: fair questioning. And I think that Trump would be able 498 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: to handle Rachel Maddow because he's actually gone into the 499 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: lions den a lot with left wing questioners. Remember that 500 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: Caitlin god her name not Caitlin Clark, who everybody now 501 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: talks about all the time, who is on CNN in 502 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: the Kitelon Collins, who is on CNN did the town 503 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: hall that basically got the head of CNN fired. Because 504 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: it worked out so well for Trump, He's gone into 505 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: the lion dens before. He just did it with ABC, 506 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: he did it with CNN with the moderators. I don't 507 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: think he would struggle. I think Kamala would collapse. And 508 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: that's why I think if Trump put that forward as 509 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: an idea, he could call her a chicken for not 510 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: wanting to debate again, which I think is why there 511 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: is some advantage to trying to set the parameters of 512 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 2: a debate in advance. I also think it would be 513 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: actually explanatory and helpful for the American viewer. 514 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: Well, I would like to see it. I'm not sure 515 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: we will see it, and it really is. It's pretty 516 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: disappointing that it's even a consideration that the Democrats can 517 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: run somebody whose entire campaign is I don't believe anything 518 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: that I've ever said in public life before of any 519 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: concent sequence, and I'm not going to answer for it anywhere. 520 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: Vote for me, and that's basically what they're doing. I 521 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: understand it was, you know, it was very frustrating, but 522 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: I understand some of the psychology of how they pulled 523 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: it off with Biden in twenty twenty. I can understand 524 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: for people who were very you know, there was a 525 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: mass delusion about you know, the need for vaccine mandates, 526 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: and and there was well that wasn't really quite in 527 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: play yet, but about mass mandates and lockdowns and all 528 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: this stuff. People were scared, and there was this grandfatherly 529 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: figure who represented change. What we were told was going 530 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: to be just a nice guy and everything would be normal. 531 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: They were lies. But I could see how somebody might say, 532 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: it's Joe Biden. How bad could it be. I don't 533 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: agree with this, but I'm just saying that doesn't shock 534 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: me that somebody who's not that into politics was like, 535 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Biden, I mean, you know, the guy's 536 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: kind of a clown. But with Kamala Harris, you that 537 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: means you're willing to say, oh, yes, she doesn't believe 538 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: anything that she believed the first you know, fifty whatever 539 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: years of her life, fifty nine years of her life. 540 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: I totally buy that she just changed her mind in 541 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: August of twenty twenty four. To believe this, you have 542 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: to be very dim witted. I mean, really, this is unacceptable. 543 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: The Democrats are just voting for she's a Democrat. I 544 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: get this. 545 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: I don't begrudge people changing their minds, but I think 546 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: when you change your mind and go to the diametrical opposition, 547 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: you should be questioned on it and have to explain it, 548 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: especially if it's so politically expedient. 549 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: Well, this is what I was gonna say. Is the 550 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: real problem that she hasn't changed her mind on any 551 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: of this. Right. The part of this that is almost 552 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: more insulting than anything else is that Kamala Harris has 553 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: this whole surrogate campaign, whisper campaign of she doesn't believe 554 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: in that crazy thing, she doesn't believe in this other 555 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: crazy thing. If she wins, guess what he believes in 556 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: all the crazy things? Again, she has changed her mind 557 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: on nothing. 558 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: Correct, and she will implement as much of that as 559 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: she can. As Bernie Sanders said, they're like, Bernie, are 560 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: you worried that she's it's. 561 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: All the kids like, she's a giant fraud, She's a phony. 562 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: I love it. She's gonna fool the imbeciles, get them 563 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: to vote for her, and then full on communism. 564 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: I didn't mind Bernie and even Elizabeth Warren. I disagree 565 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 2: with them completely, but they didn't try to hide what 566 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: they actually believed in to a large extent. Now, look 567 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren lied about being a fake Indian, which I 568 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: think is pretty, which is very funny. That is very funny. 569 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: But at least they let you know what they believe. 570 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: Kamala just thought she had to be far left wing 571 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: to be the nominee. She was wrong, and now she 572 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 2: realizes to win the election in twenty four, she's got 573 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: to pretend to all the things that she said she 574 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: supported she doesn't actually support. All Right, Buck, Thursday night football, 575 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: You're an amazing game, amazing game tonight. 576 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm not lying. 577 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: I've got my eighth grader who is going to be 578 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: playing a football game. 579 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go watch that. 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I'm in. 608 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: Let's have some fun. 609 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 4: Keep up with Clay and Bucks campaign coverage with twenty 610 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: four a Sunday highlight reel from the week. Find it 611 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 612 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 613 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 4: of you hanging out with us as we roll through 614 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 4: the program. Want to thank you for the tremendous support 615 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: you've been giving Crocketcoffee Crocketcoffee dot com. Buck, I got 616 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: an email from one of the guys down at the Alamo. 617 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 4: We are going to go down to San Antonio at 618 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: some point in the spring for all of you out 619 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: there that are Crocket Coffee subscribers if you are interested 620 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: in touring the Alamo, which, frankly, Buck, I cannot wait 621 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 4: to tour again. I haven't been to San Antonio. This 622 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: is true since I was six years old and I 623 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 4: was obsessed with the history of the Alamo, went on 624 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 4: the tour down in San Antonio. Appreciate, by the way, 625 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 4: all of you listening to us in San Antonio. Great 626 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 4: audience down there, and we're gonna do an event with 627 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: the radio show. 628 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: But I also want to do wi j wi. Big 629 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: thank you to all of you listening down there in 630 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: San anton. 631 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: We're going to do a radio event for the listeners 632 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 2: in San Antonio. We'll figure that out in the spring. 633 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: But we also want to do a Crockett subscriber coffee event. 634 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: We're going to give you the date. But if you 635 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: are an American history buff and you want to tour 636 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: the Alamo, and maybe you want to have a little 637 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: coffee with Buck and I, maybe you just want to 638 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: have a little bit of a little bit of coffee, 639 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: maybe a few adult beverages, we will set up an 640 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: event for our subscribers, and we love all of you 641 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: that are subscribing. You can go to Crocketcoffee dot com 642 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: and sign up and become a subscriber and you can 643 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: be drinking your Crocket coffee sometimes during this program like 644 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: I am now. And also you can go down and 645 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: tour the Alamo, like we are all going to do 646 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: at some point in the spring, so that is on 647 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: the horizon. You can sign up and be a part 648 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: of that. We'll send you an email and say, hey, 649 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: here are the details, this. 650 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: Is where we're going to be. 651 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 2: And if you're a Crockett Coffee subscriber, you can come 652 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: hang and you can tour the Almo with us. We're 653 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: gonna set all that up now, Buck we come back. 654 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 2: I'm super optimistic about something I am seeing in the 655 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: American culture at large, many different celebrities out there. I 656 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: know Taylor Swift, as many of us anticipated she would 657 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 2: came out and said she was voting for Kamala Harris. 658 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 2: But actually there is a tremendous amount of big time 659 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: celebrities that are saying, hey, I don't really think I 660 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: should be in the business of doing any kind of endorsement, 661 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: and so I'm going to play some of this audio. 662 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: All of it came out yesterday. Patrick Mahomes probably the 663 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: most famous male athlete in America right now, Caitlin Clark 664 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: probably the most famous female athlete in America right now, 665 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 2: and the singer Usher was on the view of all things. 666 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 2: Joy Behart tried to put pressure on him to endorse 667 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and he wouldn't do it. What's going on 668 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: out there in the sports and cultural arena that is 669 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: meaning and leading to a lot of people who were 670 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: super active in twenty twenty and in twenty sixteen not 671 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 2: being willing to. 672 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: Do the same. In twenty twenty four, I'm going to 673 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: talk about it. 674 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: I think it's really a fascinating pivot point in the culture, 675 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: and I'll lay out why I think that is. Plus, 676 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by our friend Chip Roy 677 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 2: from down in the great State of Texas, talk about 678 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: the latest down there, All that and more. Thanks for 679 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: hanging with us on the Thursday edition of Claim Back.