1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR boom Up America 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show FICK Sports Radio. I hope you're having 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: a great day of the Doug Gottleb Show, broadcast live every 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: single day, same bad time, same bad channel. I hope 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: your day is a good one. Also reminder, we got 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: a podcast where he drops at the end of this 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: two hour radio show. It's called in the Bonus. Download 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: it or we download podcast. So the Jets have made 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: some moves where they have two first round picks and 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: two second round picks in twenty twenty six, three first 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: round picks in twenty twenty seven. Meanwhile, the Colts have 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: added Sauce Gardner. So which one do you want to Hey, 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: where do you want to take it? Do you want 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: to take it with the team that added or the 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: team that's subtracted. Let's start with a team that added. 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Chaine Steiken is the head coach of the Colts. Most 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: people thought he was on the hot seat to start 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: the season. Danny Dimes has been really, really good. Jonathan 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Taylor bean back, gives them a tremendous running back, and 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: now you add an elite two time All Pro cornerback 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: to the mix. Here's the Colts head coach on the addition. 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm really excited about adding Sauce Gardner to our 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: football team. You know, his resume speaks for itself, Pro bowler, 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: All Pro, So to get a guy into the building 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: like that, it just elevates everybody around us. So really 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: excited to add him to the fold. I think when 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: you're sticky on the back end with the coverage guys 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: that we got in adding him to the fold obviously, 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: you know that makes the quarterback probably hang onto the 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: ball a little more, which helps the pass rush, and 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: it goes hand in hand the same thing. Pass rush 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: helps the copverboards on the back end. So anytime you 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: add an elite player like that to the back end, 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: it's going to help everybody. 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. It's gonna help everybody, right, you 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: gotta have help up front or in the backfield. Now 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: there's a couple of parts to it. Let's first say, 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: for the Jets, I don't like it. I love it 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: because you only do this if you have an owner 45 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: and Woody Johnson who's probably a little bit too involved, 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: but the owner has said, hey, I'm all in on 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: the coach. I'm all in on what he's doing and 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: what he's selling. And the only way you do this 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: is if the owner says, all right, look, we're not 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: going to win this year, let's rebuild this team. Let's 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: rebuild this roster, and here's how we're going to do it. 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: And if you think that this is a change in 53 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: mentality and getting rid of defensive players, it's not. It's 54 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: simply getting rid of the two guys with the most 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: value who have yet to sign those big long term 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: extensions that just bleeds you and give you the inability 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: to fill out your roster. The only reason you go 58 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: and have two first round picks, two second round picks, 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: three first round picks the next year is because you 60 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: want to go fix your quarterback position. And if you 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: think the Jets are happy with their quarterback position with 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: justin fields, all you have to do is look at 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: the owner's own quotes going back two weeks ago. What 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: he said, I mean, we could just complete a four. 65 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: You know, we just complete a pass. No one thinks 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: justin Fields is good enough, and the owner has said 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: he's not good enough, and he's got his coach, so 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: he gives them the ability to gut it, take it 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: down to the studs. Let's start over. Here's a Jets GM, 70 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Darren Moogie talking about the trades he pulled up. 71 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: I know it gives us good flexibility going in to 72 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: the draft this year and next year. So excited about 73 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: having that flexibility. And you know, the draft's a long 74 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: way away. There's a lot to happen between now and 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 3: April and then, especially twenty twenty seven. You hear them 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: and you're like, I probably wouldn't do that, but we 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: have our set values. Would keep all those conversations private. 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: And when it came down to the last few days, 79 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: Indianapolis kept getting rich and richard with their value and eventually, 80 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: like I said, it was too good to pass up. 81 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: But there's I have a lot of conversations throughout the 82 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: course of the year with different gms, and this one materialized. 83 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: Stug Otleab show here on Fox Sports Tradio. What does 84 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: all this mean? We do operate under the premise, okay, 85 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: that if you're in All Pro and you get traded, 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: you're automatically going to be an all pro at a 87 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: new location. And even though I think the Jets valued 88 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: sauce Gardner, you if you thought he if he was 89 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: untradable because he's that good, he's untradable two first round 90 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: draft picks. Says it's close to untradable, but it's not untradable. 91 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: So I want you to refresh your mind on one 92 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: thing I hate when you know, how Jason, how you 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: hate prediction radio. What I hate is those debate shows 94 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: which start with a question from somebody in the middle 95 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: who offers no up opinion they're not supposed to, who says, 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: should the Jets trade sauce Gardener? And there is while 97 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: there's a yes and a no that producers want to 98 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: get to when you do radio or television that those 99 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: type of questions, the truth is somewhere in the middle. 100 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Do I want to trade sauce Gardener? No? Do I 101 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: want to trade sauce Gardner? If I'm one in seven, 102 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to pay him a new contract, and 103 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: somebody's willing to give me two first round draft picks 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: for him. Well, yet, maybe maybe there's also the other 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: side to it, which is there is a chance that 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: sauce Gardener, while good, may not be as good as 107 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: they think. Otherwise, would you have taken two first round 108 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: draft picks because two first round draft picks, well, it 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: resets your clock on how much you're going to pay guys. 110 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: And it is a value because you can trade it 111 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: for several second and third round picks where you can 112 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: really load up on inexpensive talent. The fact is, all 113 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: you're hoping with those two first round draft picks is 114 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: that one of the players is as impactful sauce Gardner 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: has been throughout his career, and it hasn't been very long. 116 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: So there's a world out there where it looks like 117 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: a great trade for the Colts. They overpaid value wise 118 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: because they knew what they were getting, and yet maybe 119 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: maybe the Jets get over on them. 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I 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: know we had the trade deadline, I get it, but 126 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: I do think that the Jets this is like SEC football, 127 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: where the end of the season is going to be 128 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: terribly non competitive during times in which usually those are 129 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: the most viewed games. 130 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've I mean they've They've punted on this season, 131 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: and it's it's kind of why I've never felt that 132 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn was in jeopardy of losing his job no 133 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: matter how bad things went, because, as we found out today, 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: Quinn Williams had been complaining all year behind the scenes, 135 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: at least quietly or requesting a trade out of town. 136 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: We knew that there was going to be changeover. It 137 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: didn't make much sense to have Sauce Gardner the cornerback 138 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: of his level, even if he maybe wasn't playing to 139 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: the hype that he previously was playing, He's still top 140 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: level corner and to have him on a bad team, 141 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: it's just his the compareson Because we've talked about this 142 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: for the last couple of weeks on the I Want 143 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: Your Flex podcast, is closer on a bad baseball team. Yeah, 144 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: it's awesome to have a guy who can go into 145 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: the ninth and get one, two, three, But what's the point. Yeah, exactly, 146 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: So it made sense for the you know, for the 147 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: Jets in that scenario. What I find so interesting at 148 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: least then that's Pacific Colts Jets deal is look at 149 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: how this Jets team was was just just crumbled into 150 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: the ruins that it is now with the build up starting, 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: like I think, we have seen the team hit rock 152 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: bottom from where it was at one point and where 153 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: it could have been. And you would think I was 154 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: blamed Aaron Rodgers. No, I actually think that Aaron Rodgers 155 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: got caught up in the rubble of all of this 156 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 4: and the dysfunction. But also, Doug, look at the Colts. Now, 157 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: the Colts are saying we're all in. We're gonna give 158 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: up two first round picks, and while they have a 159 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: great offensive line, it really means they believe in Daniel 160 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: Jones and they really, I think, want to cash in 161 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: on these this year where Jonathan Taylor remains is healthy 162 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: and knock On Wood remains healthy, because this could be 163 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: the opportunity. The one thing with Taylor throughout his career 164 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: has been all right. Is he going to get injured 165 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: at some point? He's going to miss a couple of 166 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: games and they're all in at this point. I really 167 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: think that they're all in for this season, and they'll 168 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: have decisions to make further down the line, and this 169 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 4: trade ends up reflecting that by giving away two firsts. 170 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: I agree with you, And it's one of those things 171 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: for the Colts where how often are you going to 172 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: get this opportunity? Right? The Chiefs are kind of the 173 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Bills look beatable, not unbeatable, The Chargers are all banged up, right, 174 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: Denver's fine, Like, let's not act like Denver's spectacular and 175 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: if you can go for it, like, go for it, yeah, 176 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: and worry about the rest of another time. I do 177 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: think there's the possibility you mentioned that sauce Gardner is 178 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: he not playing well because he knows he's on a 179 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: crummy team and he's just not dialed in, or is 180 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: he not as good as as we thought or maybe 181 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: he used to be. 182 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: And the same thing with Quinnon Williams with his numbers 183 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: that maybe weren't up to previous seasons, and I think 184 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: that will have something to it. I think that there 185 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 4: there will be a boost. It's just it's it's interesting 186 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: as well when you why you're a corner when we 187 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: look at the AFC right now and you're like, what 188 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 4: receivers do you need to lock up? Well, there's none 189 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: in Buffalo, Kansas City. You're like, Okay, maybe Roshie Rice 190 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 4: is the guy New England, Stefan Diggs. You know, like, 191 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: there's there's that one portion of it. Pitt, Yeah, DK 192 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 4: Metcalf isn't really there's And that's kind of my point 193 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: of So now now I'm curious to see what the 194 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: Colts do with this. Is it to lock up Nico Collins? 195 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 4: Is it to lock up Brian Thomas junior receivers in 196 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 4: your division? That makes a lot of sense to do 197 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: that as well, But I'm just curious on how it's 198 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: going to play out, especially with the team in the 199 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 4: running for a home field in the AFC. 200 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: This is the best of the Doug dott Leaf Show 201 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio. 202 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: It's the Doug gott Leeb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I 203 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: can't tell you that most normal human beings would be 204 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: at Cedar Sinai, but no, Dan Byer is going to 205 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: join us. For an update in the moment, it's fighting through. 206 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: Is it a voice thing or is it a cold? 207 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: I got a little I can't tell if it's cold 208 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: something annoyance. It's getting cold outside here, Dan, So I'm 209 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: a little a smidge. 210 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 5: Under the weather. 211 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: But you've had more of a voice. 212 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: Thing, right, Yeah, yeah, I think I'm on the other 213 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: end of it. It actually kind of I had a 214 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 4: sore throat last week and then Friday is when my 215 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: voice really kind of started to go south. 216 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 6: So, oh, that's good. 217 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: I woke up with a sore throat today. 218 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: That's oh, that's the start of it. Yeah, that's for me. 219 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: Throat is always step one. 220 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: But we haven't made out in weeks, so I don't. 221 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 6: Know, as been months. 222 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Do you think we could? We could, I could get 223 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: it microphone, the microphone YouTube. 224 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 6: Sure, I'm not sure. Let's try right. 225 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: Uh, let's let's not all right, Let's let's maintain our 226 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: social distancing. We'll get up dated from Dan in a second. 227 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Brand joins us from executive with the pastor at Packers, 228 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: host of the Business of Sports podcast of the DraftKings Network. 229 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: He writes a comm at SI dot com and authors 230 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: the Sunday seven newsletter. Andrew, thanks so much for joining us. 231 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Give me the financial implications, if you would, of the 232 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: Jet the Jets the old fire sale taking place, Quinn 233 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: Williams gone and Sauce Gardner gone draft picks in return. 234 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: But what are the financial implications of such trades? 235 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 7: Well, when you move on from a player with a 236 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 7: big number, you're going to take a hit on the cap. Obviously, 237 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 7: the cash goes away, so everything's been paid. Is now 238 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 7: the obligation of the cults and the cowboys what's do 239 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 7: on those contracts. But the hit will be in terms 240 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 7: of leftover accounting from the cap circumstances. But you know what, 241 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 7: it's not too terrible with these young players and the 242 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 7: hits for what they did with these extensions. It's in 243 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 7: the thirteen to twenty range for each of them. And 244 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 7: that's in this day and age. It's not a ton 245 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 7: of debt money. Let me just say this about the 246 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 7: contract though, especially Gardner. They structured Gardner's contract. When you 247 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 7: do a big extension for a top player usually given 248 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,359 Speaker 7: them big time bonus, like thirty forty fifty million dollars. 249 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 7: It only gave a relatively modest bonus to Gardner of 250 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 7: thirteen million dollars. Now, they did part with that earlier 251 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 7: this year, but it's an option bonus in twenty six 252 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 7: for twenty plus million dollars. And that tells me like 253 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 7: they wanted to keep their options open with this guy, 254 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 7: and the agent's acquiesced that. And it's very interesting to 255 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 7: me that Gardener would accept one of these contracts without 256 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 7: that huge upfront bonus and putting it into the second 257 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 7: year which gave them optionality on this deal. And Doug, 258 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 7: I'll say really quickly, I am not a fan of 259 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 7: the in their personnel moves, but I like these deals. 260 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 7: I think they maximized value for these two players. They're 261 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 7: not going to be very good for a while. This 262 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 7: team is going to be awful, but they maximize value 263 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 7: for these two trades. 264 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you get rid of those salaries. 265 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: And my guess would also be they load up to 266 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: try and get a quarterback and they probably use the 267 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: rest of the picks, you know, to get more picks 268 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: to get guys outside of the first round where you 269 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: don't have to pay as much money and the hit 270 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: rate is only slightly lower. Right, seems like an interesting 271 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: It seems like a logical business plan when you're gonna 272 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: scrap it and start all over, is it not? 273 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 7: It does, And we'll get to the Cowboys in a minute. 274 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 7: But the Colts, you know, it's one of these low 275 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 7: margin for error deals like hed better be Yep, Gardner 276 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 7: a top pick of number two three corner in the NFL. 277 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 7: I mean I'm looking at two number ones. I'm thinking 278 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 7: quarterbacks Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, and not many others. You know, 279 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 7: two number ones. Wow, maybe certain, but that is just 280 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 7: you better be. He better be not just as good, 281 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 7: he better be all pro good. 282 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: All right, now go on to Cowboys. 283 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 7: I just don't get it. You know, when I say 284 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 7: two number ones for Gardeners seemed high, it seems like 285 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 7: a one in a two for Williams seems really high. 286 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 7: They got Kenny Clark as part of the Parsons trade 287 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 7: to shore up the middle of that defense, and it's 288 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 7: been awful. So now they get a similar type player. 289 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 7: They're not addressing the pass rush, they're not addressing the 290 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 7: slow linebacker corps. They're going to have a bad defense 291 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 7: with or without Quinn Williams. And then you look at 292 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 7: the whole total haul with the two trades, Doug. So 293 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 7: they give away Michael Parsons and you know, they get 294 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 7: back Quinn Williams and now only one number one pick 295 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 7: and Kenny Clark. It's just I just don't get it 296 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 7: with them. I know that Jones likes to create a 297 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 7: stir wherever he goes, but they are not fixing their 298 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 7: weakest link, which is pass rush and secondary coverage. And 299 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 7: they have two space heating defensive linemen out of these trades, 300 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 7: but that doesn't seem to be doing it. 301 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Brandt joining a former executive with the Packers, host 302 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: of the Business of Sports podcast. He writes the column 303 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: at SI dot com. He authors the Sunday seven newsletter. 304 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: Here's they get it. You go to my Sunday seven 305 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: dot com to sign up. That's my Sunday seven dot com. 306 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: It is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, 307 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: let's let's sprinkle around a cup more in the league. 308 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the Bengals and Hendrickson. 309 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 7: I don't get why they didn't move him, and they 310 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 7: obviously they didn't because they didn't feel they got good value. 311 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 7: But he's a free agent, so you're not going anywhere 312 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 7: this year, got the worst defense in the league. Why 313 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 7: not get something he's not staying. I would put a 314 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 7: stake in the ground, as you would, that Trey Henderson 315 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 7: is not going to be a Bengal next year as 316 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 7: a free agent. So I just don't get it. Like 317 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 7: take a third round pick, take a fourth round pick, 318 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 7: I mean, you're not going anywhere. I thought that would 319 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 7: be a surefire trade. I don't get it. The Bengals 320 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 7: defense is historically bad, and but for that, Doug, we'd 321 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 7: be talking about Joe Flacco, like among MVPs if they 322 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 7: had won these games that where they gave up forty 323 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 7: five points. I mean, it's just it's a tough situation 324 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 7: in Cincy. 325 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: Oh, it is really a tough situation. Did you like 326 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: the Sam Donald move signing when it was signed? 327 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 7: I did, And I even thought the Vikings could I 328 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 7: guess I would say should have bit the bullet forty 329 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 7: million dollar franchise tag while still developing McCarthy coming off 330 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 7: a ACL so I kind of thought the Vikings would 331 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 7: do that, and then he was out forbid, and I 332 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 7: thought Donald would be an upgrade over Gino Smith. I've 333 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 7: been proven right there I didn't think Gino would be 334 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 7: this bad on the Raiders. 335 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: I did not. I didn't think, you know, it would 336 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: be particularly good with the Raiders. I didn't think he'd 337 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: be this bad with the Raiders. He'd been nothing but solid, 338 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: nothing but solid. Okay, let's get back to the Colts. 339 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Would you redo, would you extend Danny Dives? 340 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: You know what I said about the trades, Doug, is 341 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 7: that this is the best things possible for Danny Daniel Jones, 342 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 7: because what you use those two number one picks for 343 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 7: is a quarterback. Now. I know they whiffed on Anthony Richardson, 344 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 7: but they would go after it again. So to me, 345 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 7: that is either a franchise tag or another big time 346 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 7: deal for Daniel Jones. We already got one with the Giants, 347 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 7: and I don't know if I'm sold get it. I 348 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 7: get it before last week. He's an MVP candidate. I 349 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 7: just don't know if I'm sold into. You know, when 350 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 7: he did it with the Giants, Doug, it was a 351 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 7: forty million dollar market. Now it's a fifty five to 352 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 7: sixty million market, which he'd be in his in his 353 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 7: rights to ask for. So I guess I'm predicting a 354 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 7: franchise tag. I just don't see a sixty million a 355 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 7: year for Daniel Jones. I wouldn't do it. 356 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: Have you you're part of the Packers. Have you been 357 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: a part of or seen a Packers team like this 358 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: one where kind of plays the level of competition. The 359 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: good teams they played well, the bad teams they seem 360 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: to play down to the level of competition. 361 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, still a fan, still close with people out there. 362 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 7: It's a it's a scratcher head the two they've lost 363 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 7: two games this year to the worst two teams they played. 364 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 7: That's just head scratching. I'll say it again. They've lost 365 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 7: their two games this year to the two worst teams 366 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 7: they've played, and they just dominated the Steelers, who beat 367 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 7: the Colts at the same building. So it is curious. 368 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 7: I think there's a you know, there's a play with 369 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 7: their food sometimes mentality with the Packers. It just seems 370 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 7: like they have so much talent, even losing Craft. They're 371 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 7: getting back Jayden Reid, they have three or four dynamic receivers, 372 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 7: and of course Jacobs and of course Love who I'm 373 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 7: still even after that horror harble one pass, I is 374 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 7: still a big fan of Jordan Love. So I'm still 375 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 7: high on the Packers along with the Eagles in that conference. 376 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: Well, Packers and the Eagles next Monday night at Lambeau 377 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: and it should be an absolute show. Should be a 378 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: good one. Remember, you need to go and download my 379 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Sunday seven dot com. Okay, sign up from my Sunday 380 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: seven dot com. It's authored by Andrew Brant, of course, 381 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: former executive the Packers and the host of these sports 382 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: Business of Sports podcast on the DraftKings Network. Of course, 383 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: you can read this stuff at si dot com, but 384 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: it's go to my Sunday seven dot com. Andrew, thanks 385 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: so much. 386 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 7: For joining us. 387 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: Okay, see you guys see the story about Tom Brady 388 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: and his dog. He cloned his dog. The first thing 389 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: is you have to establish yourself. Ryan. You can tell 390 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: us Chase dou I know, Jason, you don't have a dog. Buyer, 391 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: you don't have a dog. Ryan, I don't know if 392 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: you have a dog. I don't know. I used to Okay, 393 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: are you a dog guy? 394 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, I love dogs. 395 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: Ok Uh, what about you there, damn By, are you 396 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: a dog person? 397 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 6: We don't have a dog. 398 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 4: It's such a it's such a you're putting me in 399 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: such an awful spot because when you say someone's not 400 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: a dog person, there looked at as the most evil 401 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: people in the world. So oh oh, come on, if 402 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: you just say that you're not a dog person, nothing 403 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: of anything against dogs, Just like I'm not a dog person, 404 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 4: you are put into a category you like you are. 405 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: You are banished. 406 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 8: You might as well be Michael Vick. 407 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: No, yeah, Dan, I love you. I think you're overreacting. 408 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: I I think I asked it in a very fair 409 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: way because I think it's fair to say, like, what 410 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: you don't go is like I hate dogs. You go like, hey, 411 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: I'm just not a dog person. I got a kid, 412 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: I got a job, my wife's got a job. 413 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: Like you know. 414 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think that flies like, am I right? 415 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 6: Like with some people? Some people, Yeah, I. 416 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: Think it's just again there there there are death. There 417 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: are always crazy people who love what they love and 418 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: think everybody's crazy if you don't love them. I am 419 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: not that guy. I'm not that person. I love dogs. 420 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: I have three currently, it's probably one too many now. 421 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to off any of them. It's just 422 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: where we are right now. I love dogs, I love cats. 423 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't less Sary. I love cats. I like having 424 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: a cat. Having a cat's easy, they're super easy. But 425 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't currently have one, and I totally understand that 426 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: there's lots of people like I don't cats. I don't know. 427 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: They just they kind of do their own thing. I'm 428 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: not into them. I like a dog. And then some 429 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: people like, I don't like dogs. They get in your face, 430 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: they smell, they stick up your house, they they do things, 431 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: and they're expensive. So no, it's okay, it's okay if 432 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: you're not into having dogs. You just got like, I'm 433 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: not really a dog person. 434 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: Okay, I think there's I think there's baseline, and I 435 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 4: think that there's then dog people. 436 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: So I'm a dog person. But I am not judgmental 437 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: at all of people who don't like dogs. My view 438 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: of people who don't like dogs is much like my 439 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: view of people who are who are gay. Okay, there's 440 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: more options for me. That's the way I like. 441 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 6: As but. 442 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 4: That I think what we need to do is we 443 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: need to go to say, Jason, are you a dog person? 444 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Jason, are you a dog? I know Jason's not a 445 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: dog person. 446 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 6: Oh yes, no time. Yeah, they just lost one unfortunately. 447 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: That's right. 448 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, a bad topic there. 449 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: Do you want your dog that you had to put down, which, 450 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: by the way, is the most traumatic thing ever ever? Uh? 451 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: Do you want your dog? Do you want to be cloned? 452 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Like Tom Brady's dog was cloned? 453 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 8: No, I'm creeped out, but I'm creeped out by this 454 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 8: whole thing. 455 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: The whole thing is creepy. Let's just be honest. Like 456 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, he looks like he's had plastic shirdury done. 457 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Is that? Does anybody dispute that? I don't know it 458 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: for a fact. I'm not accusing him of it. I'm 459 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: saying what it looks like to somebody who's not as 460 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: good looking as he is. Is that Is that fair? 461 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 8: It's fair? Yes? 462 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, I'm again, this is not me defaming. 463 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: Oh he's he's addicted to I don't know if he 464 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: had nip tucks done. I don't know if he just 465 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: has botox. I don't know how any of that stuff works. 466 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm ugly, and I'm gonna have to live with it. 467 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: That's the way it is. I do think it tracks 468 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: with everything else with Tom Brady. I just do like 469 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: he's that guy. He's that guy that wears a suit 470 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: on the sidelines to go shake hands and take pictures 471 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: of people before an NFL game. Nobody else does. It's 472 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: like he's he's classically overdressed. He has to seemingly look 473 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: perfect his teeth. It looks like every day is a 474 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: whitening stripp day. And the fact that he had a dog, 475 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: and I like that, like you kind of clone a 476 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: dog anytime you have a dog that's a from a breeder. Anyway, 477 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: you know the why am I blanking on the name? 478 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: What's the great comedian? 479 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 7: Uh? 480 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: He hated all of societal norms? Am I thinking, oh jeez. 481 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 6: Oh, oh, that's every comedian. 482 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 8: Down there. Dog? 483 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: Thanks, that was terrible. No, white guy, white guy passed away? 484 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 6: Oh yeah that guy. 485 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, white guy passed away. Older. Oh come George, 486 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: George Carlin. George Carlin would all had had a bit 487 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: where he said, like, you know, the think about it die. 488 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Everybody makes it that to be the dog. But you 489 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: can literally take your dog when it is dead, put 490 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: it up on the counter, goes, I love this dog, 491 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: Give me one just like it, and then both you 492 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: get one just like it. Tom Brady took that to 493 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: the next step, Like, you know, I want to just 494 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: I literally want the dog just like it. I would 495 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: love to know if the dog behaves, has the same name, 496 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: responds to the same commands, didn't have to be trained, 497 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: or was trained the same way. It's creepy as. 498 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 6: Hell pet cemetery, that's what it is. 499 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. 500 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 6: Oh that's a good movie. 501 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's good. 502 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 6: It's creepy. 503 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: I I don't love creepy, but okay, I mean I 504 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: have Twindy and Cold at Night. Maybe does anybody think 505 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: this is a cool story, a normal story? Does anybody 506 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: like the story? Or is everybody creeped out by it? 507 00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: Like me and Jason are. 508 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't think it's cool. I just not as it's 509 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: a world that I don't relate to. 510 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. It's like it's like rich people stuff 511 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know what it's 512 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: like to have Nanni's. 513 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 8: Like when when Brady I put out, obviously he made 514 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 8: the announcement to also endorse this company that I'm guessing 515 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 8: he has a stake in, and ye that it adds 516 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 8: to the dirtiness the whole thing. But this is one 517 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 8: of the bylaws or one of the things that Colossal, 518 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 8: the company that cloned his dog sells to the public. 519 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 8: They aim to fix extinction, And to me, that just 520 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 8: just it's so unnatural to me that I'm I'm just 521 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 8: kind of diametrically opposed to that concept. Just let let 522 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 8: human life and other living beings go the way they're 523 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 8: supposed to be. 524 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: Please, Yep, yep, I think that's totally fair, totally fair. 525 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup been 526 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 5: the nation yet. Catch all of our shows at Fox 527 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 5: sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 528 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: What Up with You? Doug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports 529 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: Radio iHeartRadio App. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. It is a Wednesday, 530 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: It's the middle of the week, the middle of the show, 531 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: the middle of the the day. We'll get to the 532 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: midway up coming. Andrew Brandt's gonna join us twenty five 533 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: after the hour. He is the host of the Business 534 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: of Sports podcast. We got a lot to talk about. 535 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has cloned his dog. Huh r r. That 536 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: was my Scooby Doo. By the way, guys, my Scooby Doo. 537 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: You know you got NBA games, you got some college 538 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: football but it's Wednesday is kind of the calm before 539 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: the oh storm. Right. Got college hoops as well, So 540 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of potential storylines, but nothing that jumps 541 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: out at you to day other than you know, the 542 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: Jets kind of fire sale. If you will tomorrow, you 543 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: got Raiders Denver. Denver's a talking point. Tonight, you don't 544 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: have much. So let's get to the midway. 545 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 7: He's not getting. 546 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: Mid with you. 547 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 6: It's time for the. 548 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: Midway. 549 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Okay, there, Dan Byer, what do you got my man? 550 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: What are you thinking of the midway? 551 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 8: Well? 552 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: I really thought that Jason brought up a great point 553 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 4: that it's it's the midway point of the season, right Jason, Like, 554 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: this is the halfway points. 555 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 8: If it's pretty simple of the mouth, there's eighteen weeks 556 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 8: and if you divide eighteen by two, it's nine. So 557 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 8: we just finished the ninth week. It's very simple. Mouth. 558 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 8: I'm not sure how that could be confused. 559 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: I know this one guy who like last week, was like, 560 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 4: it's the halfway point of the season, right now, you 561 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: take seventeen and he even asked my buddy, he goes, 562 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: what's half of seventeen? And my buddy was like, and 563 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 4: they're like, all right, we're in it. Oh man, what 564 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: a crazy spot right now? 565 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 8: Is the halfway point of the NFL season. I got 566 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 8: zero responses to it. I blame Ryan Smith here for 567 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 8: not responding. I want to know halfway through the NFL 568 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 8: season one of two things. What was the biggest surprise 569 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 8: from the first half of the season or what's the 570 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 8: storyline that you are looking forward to following moving forward 571 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 8: for the second half of the season. Which one do 572 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 8: you guys want to do? I think they're both game. 573 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 8: I think that I'll work in this spot. Even when 574 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 8: we talked about it last week. I think there's a 575 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 8: midway point. There's things that you can look ahead and 576 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 8: look back to. The reason I didn't respond was because 577 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 8: I thought we decided last week that we were going 578 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 8: to do that this week when I told you, they 579 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 8: were eighteen weeks in the NFL season. So that's why 580 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 8: there was no response today, because I just figured that 581 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 8: this was this was the given the portion of the equation, mm. 582 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: Hmm, I'm gonna do. I like first half of the season. 583 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: I like looking back, we can wonder and maybe do 584 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: next week and do the last kick the kick of 585 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: the season. I just think there's all kinds of interesting 586 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: things the culture. The most interesting they just are. I mean, 587 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: between Chris Ballard, their GM, Shane Stike in their head coach, 588 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: I think most people thought they were on some form 589 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: of hot seat. And remember they started this year with 590 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson planning to be their starting quarterback, despite the 591 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: fact last year for him ended so strangely, and they 592 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: had Danny Daniel Jones and whatever the NFL thinks of him, 593 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: popular public opinion was super down on Daniel Jones. And 594 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: when you say Danny Dimes, it's kind of said with 595 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: a wink nod, you know what I mean. Danny Dives 596 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: been great, Jonathan Taylor has been awesome, the defense been 597 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: pretty good. Shane Styke is a tremendous play color, and 598 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: they got a shot now adding Sauce Gardner to go 599 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: far in the AFC playoffs, not just with how good 600 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: they are, but how beaten up and how average everybody 601 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: else is. I can't think of a more interesting story 602 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: that's different than we thought it would be than the 603 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. 604 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: And and I think that the trepidation from people or 605 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 4: the people who have some questions about the Colts are 606 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: the ones who haven't watched the Colts. 607 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 6: They like they are. 608 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: They are really the Chargers ass right, like Jaseu like 609 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: they kick their ass. 610 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: But I would rather a team turn the ball over 611 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: six times than to be uh not be able to 612 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 4: do anything on offense, like they didn't get their running 613 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: game going, but like they like they they lost the 614 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: game with seven, but it was probably realistically a two 615 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: score game. Sure, but to turn it over six times 616 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: means like, oh my gosh, what are you doing? And 617 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: I've been frustrated with the Seahawks at times in the 618 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 4: way that they've turned over the ball earlier in the season. 619 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: But turning over the ball sometimes, I don't think is 620 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 4: a sign of. 621 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 6: I would have happened. 622 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: Multiple weeks in a row. It happened three weeks in 623 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: a row, like okay, now we got a pro act 624 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: correct and Jay Stu. I'm not saying the Colts are 625 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: the best team in the AMC or that's not a 626 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: sign of ooh, maybe the damn is gonna break, maybe 627 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: this team will come back down to earth. Right, I'm 628 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: not saying the question or we were trying to talk 629 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: about the midway is most interesting first half storylines that's 630 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: pretty interesting to me that the Colts, who none of 631 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: us were like, if you would have listed your top 632 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: eight teams or your top ten teams from the AFC 633 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: to start the year, would you have listened to the Colts. 634 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 6: No, it's not a chance. 635 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 8: I thought stich In and Ballard were like on the 636 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 8: way out. 637 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, no question. So that's 638 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: why I would say it's again, I'm not proclaiming them 639 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: to be the best team in the AFC, to be 640 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: a super Bowl favorite. You know, there's lots of teams 641 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: they have better record than. I'm not sure they're actually 642 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: better then, But so far in the first half season, 643 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: they have shown themselves to be prett darn good, shown 644 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: themselves to be well coached, and it's the surprise of 645 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: the year for me how well the Colts have played 646 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, that quarterback. 647 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: Can we do an actual look at the Kansas City Chiefs, 648 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 4: because I don't feel that we ever really look at 649 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 4: them in a way that isn't somewhat biased one way 650 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 4: or another. Starting of the year, zero and two hots over, 651 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 4: super Bowl hangover. 652 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 6: Then they go and they win. 653 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 4: Five out of six guests, Who's back Kansas City, best 654 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 4: team in the NFL, and then we see them loose 655 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: to the Bills this past weekend. As I mentioned earlier, 656 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 4: if the playoffs were to start the day, the Chiefs 657 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 4: would not be in the playoffs. They're at five and four, 658 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 4: So who are they? They don't have a running game. 659 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 4: They don't have a running back right now. Their win, 660 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: their best win on the slate is a home win 661 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: against the Lions. It's a nice win you to take that. 662 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 4: Detroit's a very good team. But the Baltimore win lamar 663 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 4: Get's hurt in the game. Not that they would have 664 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 4: won it if he was healthy, but Baltimore isn't the same. 665 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 4: Win against the Giants is nothing. The Raiders they blank 666 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 4: them thirty one nothing. Raiders aren't any good. The Commanders said, 667 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 4: Marcus Mariota is their quarterback. They just haid Josh Allen 668 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: go twenty three to twenty six against them. 669 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 6: So really, how good are the Kansas City Chiefs? 670 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 8: They're not a playoff team if it started today? Right? 671 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 6: Yep? 672 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 8: And was was Sunday not the smallest biggest game of 673 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 8: any weekend, Like for all the hype that CBS gave 674 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 8: it and Jim Nantz and Tony Romo did their best 675 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 8: to make it sound big. It was almost like and 676 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 8: you kind of had to take Josh Allen's lead. After 677 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 8: the game. He was basically like, we haven't done anything. 678 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 8: Like the Bills beat the Chiefs. That's what they do. 679 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 8: They just never beat them when they have to. I 680 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 8: found that to be interesting. The smallest, biggest game of 681 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 8: the weekend Bill's Chiefs camp. 682 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 4: It's the rivalry in the NFL, and it looks like 683 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: it's a seven point loss on the road against Buffalo, 684 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 4: which doesn't look bad. But when you dig a little 685 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: deeper and you watch the game, Buffalo is in pretty 686 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 4: good control for that contest. 687 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 8: I'm gonna say, Drake May. I'm gonna say that. I'll 688 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 8: say the Patriots, but Drake May. Let's focus uber focus 689 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 8: on the Drake May part of this. Okay, As you 690 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 8: guys know, as I've said on this broadcast, I care 691 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 8: less about sports than I do about how sports is covered. 692 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 8: I probably follow how sports is covered too much. I 693 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 8: get real bogged down in the weeds of what people 694 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 8: say about it, and I like to point out contradictions 695 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 8: and predictions. The Drake May story, guys, and how the 696 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 8: media has covered this thing has been just laughable. Okay, 697 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 8: So let's go back at the beginning of the college 698 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 8: football season in twenty three, it was like Kayleb Williams, 699 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 8: Drake May, Drake May or Kerry Williams. They were they 700 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 8: were by far the greatest two quarterbacks that'll ever come 701 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 8: out of the of the NFL draft. It was one 702 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 8: and two, which one do you swat? Who knows? And 703 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 8: then it plays out and Drake May falls, He falls 704 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 8: out of favor, didn't have a great last season. All 705 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 8: of a sudden, Jaden Daniels has taken in front of 706 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 8: him in the draft. Drake May plays a pretty good 707 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 8: rookie season, then gets eight, gets a Mike Rabels season 708 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 8: this year, and now everyone's saying, hey, if we redrafted 709 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 8: this whole thing, Drake May's at the top. It's obvious 710 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 8: it's Drake May. It's obviously Drake May. So anyways, and 711 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 8: Doug just said he's the MVP last segment. So I 712 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 8: want people to please be consistent with their coverage. That's 713 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 8: all I ask him. 714 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 4: Doug ad him second in the MVP. Did pick Josh 715 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: Allen over him, but more so than Patrick Mahomes. From 716 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 4: what the odds are saying, But yeah, you're absolutely right. 717 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 4: How about the Ryan Poles piece that came out where 718 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 4: he put together that that basically disc clip of Drake 719 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 4: May when they were evaluating quarterbacks because he so wanted 720 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 4: to take Caleb Williams. I love that little nugget that 721 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 4: we got entering this season and now and now, by 722 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 4: the way, do we know if you would take Caleb 723 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels over Caleb Williams because that was the discussion 724 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,479 Speaker 4: this whole last of the season. 725 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely right. Now are we so sure that we 726 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 6: want to do that? 727 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 8: And you know what people are saying, Well, of course 728 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 8: you don't take Jade Williams because he's not He's not available. 729 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 8: I thought coming out of college he was the guy 730 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 8: that was too thin and too weak. I thought that 731 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 8: was the knock on him. Now you're gonna knock him 732 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 8: for being unavailable. What's going on here? 733 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 6: Yes? They last year was just such a funky year 734 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 6: for the Commanders. 735 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: I have a couple other first half of the season, 736 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: the downfall of the Dolphins is a big story. And 737 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: it's a big story because, look, we've talked about about 738 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 1: Tua over the years. The six years he's been in 739 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: the injuries, the arm strength or whatever. But Mike McDaniel 740 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: escaped all of this criticism unscathed. Right, He was cool. 741 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: He's like a hipster coach. He's got the glasses, he's 742 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: got the joggers. You know, he drives a Bentley. He's 743 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: kind of got swagged to him. Whatever has happened, there 744 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: has been an abject disaster and his GM has already 745 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: been fired. I don't know what they do it too, 746 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: it going going forward, and reports now are that he's safe, 747 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: but I can't see it that the season has done 748 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: well him him being safe. Mike McDaniel going from the 749 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: snapshot of what the league may people think the league 750 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: may look like in ten years, to being the first 751 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: coach out that downfall has been passed. 752 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 8: Why would McDaniel's job be safe if they bring in 753 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 8: a new GM. Isn't he just gonna pick a new 754 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 8: head coach. Isn't that the train of thought? Or they're 755 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 8: actually gonna keep the head coach? 756 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: No? I mean, look, I agree with you. I don't 757 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: think it's safe. But they have said, and they leaked 758 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: to the NFL insiders that oh, they like Mike Dane 759 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna be safe, Like, what are they gonna say? 760 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: You know, if you say, hey, good be coaching for 761 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: his job. Everybody knows. Everybody knows anyway, but it's the 762 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: public statement. 763 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 4: By the way, I would rather be Chris Greer than 764 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel. I'd rather not have to be at work 765 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 4: rather than let go people like man remember the stephen A. 766 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 6: Smith. 767 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd much rather be Chris Greer. Move on, look 768 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 4: for your next gig. All McDaniel's got to deal with 769 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 4: now is this team for the next eight weeks? 770 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 8: I thought Ryan Smith had a really good point about 771 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 8: the Raiders. What was it, Ryan, he's a big Raiders guy. 772 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I want to know how in the world did 773 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 4: the Raiders beat the Patriots on Week one? 774 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 6: How how did that happen? 775 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: You got throughout Week one results? 776 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 3: Right, it's I get that, but it's the Raiders, Like 777 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 3: how there? 778 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what Survivor pools. I was on New 779 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 4: England week one, lost one of my entries. They played 780 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 4: a good half against the Raiders and then the Raiders 781 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, outclass them. Gino what threw for like 782 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 4: three hundred and seventy yards? There was no Christian Gonzales 783 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 4: for New England at that point. Then the next week 784 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 4: the Patriots got into a bit of a shootout against 785 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 4: the Dolphins. That was a close contest, but New England 786 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 4: ends up winning it in the end. So New England 787 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 4: was close to maybe starting the year zero to two 788 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 4: with losses to the Raiders and Dolphins, and now they're 789 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 4: sitting there seven to two atop the conference. And honestly, 790 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 4: I don't want to say look unbeatable, because they could 791 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 4: have very well lost to the to the Falcons, but 792 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 4: they we're in control of that game against Atlanta and 793 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 4: now look like a formidable opponent that come playoff on. 794 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 4: Speaking of the Falcons, to me, they're my puzzler. I mean, 795 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 4: we love Bejon Robinson, we love the running game. That 796 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 4: division looked like it was up for grabs, and then 797 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 4: they play on Monday Night and they have a dominating 798 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 4: win against the Buffalo Bills, and then you just throw 799 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 4: in a stinker at Carolina. They've been all over the 800 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 4: map this year. The Falcons are my puzzler, sitting there 801 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 4: at three and five. 802 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: And that, my friends, is the Midway. 803 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 5: The Midway