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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Beat your Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Sena.

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Speaker 1: And we are here with the iHeart Music Awards and

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Speaker 1: David's Bridal who.

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Speaker 2: Are sponsoring this podcast, and you're so grateful to them.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for finishing my sentence. And we

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Speaker 1: are here with our favorites Dotting and Charity.

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Speaker 3: Hello, we're not your favorite.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've had this conversation.

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Speaker 2: You introduce every couple.

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Speaker 1: Of the same Out of all the couples, you guys

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Speaker 1: have been on this podcast the most probably really, how

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Speaker 1: does that make you feel? I feel a certain way.

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Speaker 4: A little bit on top of the tier.

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Speaker 2: Top tier.

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Speaker 1: How did you feel podcasting with me? Charity?

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Speaker 4: I loved it. I was kind of nervous. I didn't

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Speaker 4: tell you that before. I was like, I just don't

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Speaker 4: know how this.

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Speaker 3: Is going to go.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, you said you did a great job.

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Speaker 4: Oh thank you. No, it's just like it's Joe.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what that no not about.

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Speaker 5: But I was like, I just know Joe's like humor.

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Speaker 5: Like I was like recommending gotten to do it. I

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Speaker 5: was like that would be so funny, but probably too chaotic.

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Speaker 4: But I actually had a great time, and it did

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Speaker 4: go good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were great.

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Speaker 1: The we'd had all the four guys on, including you,

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Speaker 1: it was chaotic. It got chaotic for a minute. So

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Speaker 1: we have fantasy suites tonight?

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Speaker 6: Yep, well last night, last morning, this Monday, but this

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Speaker 6: is coming out on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Who was up first?

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Speaker 6: It was Zoe, then Julie. No, Juliana then Zoe, then Letia.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay. Now I have a question. Where would you

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Speaker 1: want to be placed for Fantasy Suites? Do you want

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Speaker 1: to go first? Or do you want to go last?

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Speaker 4: I would love to be in the middle.

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Speaker 2: You want you want to be in the middle? Do

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Speaker 2: you think that's the best spot?

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be first because I feel like

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Speaker 5: that's like too much pressure and like with all things considering,

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Speaker 5: and then last is like.

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Speaker 2: You just don't want to go No, you don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I always say say, where did Dowton go the last?

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Speaker 7: Which I ended up like figuring because obviously they don't

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Speaker 7: tell us, so you do never know, but d figuring

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Speaker 7: it out because it was so long between the time.

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Speaker 3: I was like, there must be like a couple other people.

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Speaker 2: Right, they won't tell you, like, hey, you're going last.

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Speaker 6: It'll just be like you show up and maybe your first,

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Speaker 6: maybe your last.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know Pat would come every day. He'd be

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Speaker 7: like maybe today today.

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Speaker 2: Is kind of the same.

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Speaker 4: He was last.

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Speaker 5: That's why I thought he wasn't going to He was

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Speaker 5: the last for Hometowns too. I was like, you're like,

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Speaker 5: why don't you like me?

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Speaker 4: And he go first?

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Speaker 3: Like hello, No, I actually appreciate it going last.

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Speaker 1: I would want to go last.

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Speaker 7: That's why the middle of the last is good. But

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Speaker 7: I like last, because I mean lasting impression first and foremost.

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Speaker 7: You get to be the last one to release.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, and you don't have to sit on

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Speaker 2: your I think first is the worst one.

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Speaker 6: Mid middle is good, but I feel like first is

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Speaker 6: the worst because then you have you have a great

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Speaker 6: time and then you have to.

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Speaker 2: Sit on it all.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. My mind would like, not let

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Speaker 4: me do that.

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Speaker 7: The only reason why I first, I think anybody would

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Speaker 7: even like like first, is because you know, like the like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I don't want any you know part of the show,

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Speaker 7: You're going to pretend.

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Speaker 3: Like it's not.

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Speaker 1: Well, did you pick your order? No, okay, see.

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Speaker 4: I would prefer I wanted him first.

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Speaker 3: Did you.

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Speaker 1: I would prefer to go last because of what Juliana

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Speaker 1: said in this episode of like everything went really great, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like now two other.

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Speaker 3: People are going like how's it?

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Speaker 1: Like this could have been amazing, but now it could

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Speaker 1: be like amazing times too with the X person and

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Speaker 1: then I'm fuck.

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Speaker 4: Which is what Serena was saying.

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Speaker 5: It's like you have to sit on your thoughts of

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Speaker 5: like whether it went good or even if it went bad.

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Speaker 5: It's like, now I have all this time in this

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Speaker 5: window before I see him again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that sucks, Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say I felt like going last.

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Speaker 7: I felt very comfortable somewhat in that bro ceremony because

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Speaker 7: it was just like, yeah, you just you can more

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Speaker 7: or less predict sort of how.

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Speaker 3: Things went, yeah, and you can read the other Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you'll get a vibe.

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Speaker 6: I feel like you can get more of a vibe

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Speaker 6: at the end of the week because if you guys

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Speaker 6: are in a really good place, you're going to know,

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Speaker 6: and if the other two dates have gone well and

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Speaker 6: you might be on the chopping block, you're gonna know.

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Speaker 4: Off script, really, wait, how did you know what my

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Speaker 4: vibe was? Sorry?

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Speaker 5: I don't think we ever talked about this. Yeah, at

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Speaker 5: the roast ceremony. You just said you kind of saw

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Speaker 5: the vibe.

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Speaker 1: No, No, this is good because I want to get

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Speaker 1: real with this because I have another question for you

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Speaker 1: to like not.

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Speaker 7: Like yours, but like, here's what my thought process is.

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Speaker 7: If I was going home, there's no way you would

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Speaker 7: have had much energy. You would not have been like excited,

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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. Like you'd be definitely like

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Speaker 7: laid down, unless you're.

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Speaker 3: Just like a horrible person.

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Speaker 7: You'd be laying down like the carpet for uh, you

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Speaker 7: know this person I'm going to send them home.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you'd be like cushioning the blow, trying to be

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Speaker 6: like hey, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Say it's like, you know, we've had a really good time,

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Speaker 7: you know, like you heard that, yeah exactly, So like

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Speaker 7: none of that was there.

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Speaker 3: We were like just smiling was like our first aid,

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Speaker 7: And I knew you were retired and so even despite that,

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Speaker 7: So that's why I was like somewhat comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, okay, So let's get real. Cameras are cameras

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Speaker 1: are off? You're not recorded? Did you ask her like, hey,

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Speaker 1: is it me?

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Speaker 3: No? I never did, I never I never straight up

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Speaker 3: asked no, why not? Well, I I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Maybe it's a that an African in me, but like

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Speaker 7: I'm never too confident about anything, even if it's like

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Speaker 7: it's clear, and uh, I think I've talked about seeing

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Speaker 7: the show too that like generally, when something feels like

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Speaker 7: it's mine ends up falling.

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Speaker 3: I fall short, and so it's just like don't want to.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to exact, I.

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Speaker 6: Didn't want to, like if I asked, it's going to

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Speaker 6: take me out of the running and like push her away.

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Speaker 7: Exactly, yeah, or just changed you know what the plan is,

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Speaker 7: what what the universe's plans is?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's really it was more of a personal thing.

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Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of people have that mentality

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Speaker 6: and fantasy suits because we asked a lot of people

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Speaker 6: like did you ask the question like is it me?

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Speaker 2: And I would say no, one on this podcast ever

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Speaker 2: has It's.

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Speaker 3: Also not fair really spotlight, Yeah, how.

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Speaker 1: Would you have received that?

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Speaker 5: I respectfully would have declined answering that. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 5: do have like somewhat of regrets from my season, but

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Speaker 5: like it was never anything like I was making actual

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Speaker 5: promises of like Okay.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to get engaged.

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Speaker 5: Like I never said any of these things, and I

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Speaker 5: think that would have just definitely put him in a

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Speaker 5: not so good headspace regardless of the outcome.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, well, I guess the last thing you want

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Speaker 6: to do too is say it and like even if

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Speaker 6: you're one hundred percent sure, in that moment, God forbids

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Speaker 6: something that changes, or like you realize you're not compassive

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Speaker 6: to me, and then you're like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 6: have to eat my words exactly, which I knew that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god, Oh you did good, you did good.

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Speaker 3: What did you guys talk about?

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Speaker 4: What is the fantasy s.

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: No, we have fantasy suits on Paradise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nay suits and we had.

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Speaker 2: We didn't do boom boom room, so did skipping Forward.

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Speaker 1: I actually when we left, when we left fantasy Suites,

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Speaker 1: I was not sure if I was like, I'm not going.

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Speaker 2: To ask you to marry me, and I said, please don't.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, you give me a you see

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Speaker 1: it now dated by myself and.

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Speaker 6: I leave him for like a day and I come

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Speaker 6: back and he's like bought like a new couch and

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Speaker 6: booked a scripture Japan, Like you can't leave him alone.

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Speaker 2: We get on. Yeah we booked.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well he booked in a day. I like literally

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Speaker 6: he was like, I have nothing to do to him,

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Speaker 6: like go book.

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Speaker 2: Us still Planet trick.

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Speaker 3: This is after the after.

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Speaker 6: Joe just like leaving him alone is so dangerous he

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Speaker 6: needs a buddy of.

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Speaker 4: All times, my god, maybe.

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Speaker 3: Staneous.

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Speaker 1: How do we feel about Letilla saying that she doesn't

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Speaker 6: She also said, don't tell me anything about the other

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Speaker 6: women that I agree with that I please not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like like I shouldn't even have to tell you,

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Speaker 3: like I know what happens everything.

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Speaker 5: You didn't like I say that, but you were just

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Speaker 5: like it was like I understood, like respect our relationships was.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't need to know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think what provoked it was Katie and Katie

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Speaker 6: Beggar and Lytia to sit down chat and kind of unpacked.

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Speaker 2: What Katie went through, and Lytia was.

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Speaker 6: Like, this has kind of giving me the confidence to

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Speaker 6: actually explicitly say to him, hey, we don't this is

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Speaker 6: she I think her exact what was this is an

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Speaker 6: honesty hour. If you did anything, let's deal with it

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Speaker 6: later and not now.

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Speaker 2: When we have like such limited.

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Speaker 6: Time to Yeah, I mean, which that was interesting because

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Speaker 6: I think it's I agree, it's like typically you think

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Speaker 6: it's an unspoken rule. I think it was the first

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Speaker 6: time we've seen someone ex deplicitly be like, shut your

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Speaker 6: mouth and don't tell me about your other connection.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. Yeah, you're right. I don't think we've

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Speaker 4: ever seen it like be air that way.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. I wonder what that says about the lead, like

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Speaker 3: what she thinks for yeah, to like feel like you

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Speaker 5: How was it?

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Speaker 4: The bikinis in the snow conversation.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, yeah, cold, it was wet.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, I love you, appreciate worth it.

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Speaker 1: See, I don't get that I don't get bikinis in

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Speaker 2: I was like, it's also like you get sick of taking.

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Speaker 4: I would be like, let's see it. I would not

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Speaker 1: In the Snow, David, if you're listening, sponsor speaking of

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Speaker 3: Excellent, Thank you, good, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm professional. You know, it's my story here. Out of

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Speaker 3: Most excited to watch for Paradise or who do you hope.

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Speaker 1: Is going to be there? And you would be the

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Speaker 7: Just because I hang out with them so much. Definitely

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Speaker 7: Jeremy and John B. I really, I'm so for so,

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Speaker 7: I'm so messy. As soon as like, I want everyone

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, you should go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The biggest him, I would never do it. But I

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Speaker 3: I think I've convinced them.

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Speaker 7: I'm excited for them, and honestly, like if any of

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Speaker 3: I just love watching them and it makes me invested.

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Speaker 6: Any like potential pairs that you see, we've heard Graham,

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you Grant said John B.

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Speaker 2: No, John B. Jiggity John who I'm screaming who John?

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Speaker 4: Who's again?

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Speaker 6: Jonathan and jiggedy there we have a lot of j

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Speaker 6: Alex from this last season was his like in Heaven,

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Speaker 6: this is gonna sound really bad.

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Speaker 3: No, say it, let's start.

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Speaker 4: No, That's what I'm like.

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Speaker 5: I hope I don't in trouble for saying this, But

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Speaker 5: I actually don't know about personality, okay, A Like I

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like really you don't get that from Alex.

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Speaker 5: No, I feel like she's actually a lot I mean

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Speaker 5: I haven't met her in person yet, but like I

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Speaker 7: You are.

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Speaker 2: Hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: But does Alex post a lot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's talk a lot.

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Speaker 1: Isn't there like a rumor that she like dated, Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think she was dating like a DJ for a while.

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Speaker 6: You didn't, don't. This is not incredible journalistic podcast guys,

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Speaker 6: So no one, But yeah, that's just my take them. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I can't.

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Speaker 7: I can't say anything on my own because no, no, no,

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Speaker 7: I can't because there's like past history with some of

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Speaker 3: Okay, hopefully it just you up on the beach. That'd

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Speaker 4: TV hate that there's always past history. That's why I

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Speaker 5: I feel like you start, do you. It's annoying because

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Speaker 6: That's why it is annoying and it never works out

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Speaker 2: But also like it adds so much to the show

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Speaker 6: What I like about it is like you're getting like

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Speaker 2: All right now hash.

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Speaker 5: It out, no see I but yes, you're right, and

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of sorry, yes that's what

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Speaker 5: They're like, oh, we shouldn't talk about it, like you

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Speaker 4: Come on and like put it all them see what.

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Speaker 4: They were just like that's what you were trying to say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just the hate you'll get on social media that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well yeah, And I think there's the added component

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Speaker 6: So I think there's that kind of like underlying thought process,

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Speaker 7: I think it depends on certain factors, like how you look.

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Speaker 2: There's definitely people that ken and cannot get away with nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I think we downplay how much luck is involved. Like

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Speaker 6: I feel like you're really you. You had one two

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I guess I don't really have a comeback,

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Speaker 1: but you're not.

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Speaker 6: I also think the formula works for you, and I

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Speaker 3: I think I know why though.

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Speaker 7: I think it's because you're, like you're a very thoughtful person,

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Speaker 7: You're pretty like cerebral. I think that are working out

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Speaker 1: I also think I look, I look into the future

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00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, like this is what it is

453
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: down here, but like everything will change when you step

454
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 1: into the real world and then like then I'll see

455
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 1: if it really works. But I think I know enough

456
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 1: right now, or I could take that chance.

457
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 5: Also said you're taking a big risk, like a lot

458
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 5: of like respectually, I would be terrified if.

459
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 4: I went to Paradise. But that's the thing I'm gonna

460
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 4: I would not do good Ondise.

461
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 2: Really, why do you think you would do?

462
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 5: It's just the environment, like if I especially like just

463
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 5: the fact that it's like no one's in control, like

464
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 5: you're only in control of yourself. If I had like

465
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 5: an interest and say it was like me and Dottan

466
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 5: on the beach, obviously, I can't really speak on this

467
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 5: because I'm like, if it was him, obviously, but if

468
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 5: I locked in on him and like then there's like

469
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 5: someone else, like I goes into like if I knew

470
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 5: we had established a connection at a certain point. I'm

471
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 5: just not someone who wants to like bargain and like

472
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 5: let me, you know, respectfully test out everybody on the Yeah,

473
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 5: I don't care enough, Like if I'm vibing with someone,

474
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 5: then I expect that to continue and my feelings respectfully

475
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 5: would get like hurt.

476
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,880
Speaker 6: Well, I also think it would be hard going from

477
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 6: being the lead where you have all the controls never

478
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 6: lead to then no control.

479
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Speaker 2: Never yeah yeah yeah yeah. Don do you think he

480
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 2: would thrive in paradise?

481
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Speaker 3: I think I could do it. I wouldn't. I don't

482
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 3: think I would find love, but I think I can

483
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: like put emotions. But that's what I mean, pretty good

484
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 3: at like doing that.

485
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean when I say luck, Like

486
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 1: you don't think you would find love? Right, but if

487
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: charity was on the beach, oh when you went, then.

488
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: You you would make it work.

489
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 7: Oh no, that's that's the most important thing I think

490
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 7: you said you mentioned it is that luck. I actually,

491
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 7: as one of those people who never undermines the importance

492
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 7: of luck in this process, I think it's the most

493
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 7: important thing. And again, like I got lucky with the

494
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 7: guys that we were with, right because they were all

495
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 7: really cool. If there were assholes and douches, I probably

496
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 7: wouldn't have opened up and I would not you know

497
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like there's a lot of fact people

498
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 7: don't take into consideration.

499
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, like if he wasn't down there, like if he

500
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 6: went a season later than me, I would not have

501
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 6: ended up engaged left on right, So like sometimes it's

502
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 6: just lining up the right people at the right time.

503
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Speaker 1: Or even where you get placed. Like I was the

504
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: third person on the beach, But what if I was

505
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: the first drop, Like I wasn't even original cast.

506
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: And you took someone else on a date.

507
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 3: Like what would have happened? Right?

508
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

509
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know on the regular.

510
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Speaker 7: Show, like if I had a lot of tension in

511
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 7: the first couple of weeks, you know what I'm saying,

512
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 7: Like it was kind of nice that I had a

513
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 7: slow ramp up because then she didn't get bored.

514
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: Of me, you know.

515
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 6: Juliana Actually she came on and told us that she

516
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 6: told Grant to not give her an early one on

517
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 6: one date because she knew she wasn't going to be

518
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 6: able to open up, and that's why she had like

519
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 6: the last one on one of the season.

520
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Speaker 4: What do you think about that? That's interesting?

521
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that is kind of smart for sure.

522
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think statistically they show that those early connections

523
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 7: almost always fizzle out.

524
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: Right, I might need I think it's a good.

525
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: Idea to like like.

526
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Speaker 4: I'm not glowing anymore.

527
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think it's I think that's actually

528
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 7: a really smart idea to say save it. And then yeah,

529
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 7: again it's all about like who's so many options? Whose

530
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 7: top of mind? You know, it's recency bias is a

531
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 7: real thing, and so like if you want a better shop,

532
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 7: you don't want to be an early connection.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah as the lead, do you think?

534
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 4: I agree?

535
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

536
00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 5: The later on first Yeah, absolutely, they're just most recent

537
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 5: and just for example, like who had the first one

538
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 5: one of my I think it was to be and theneah,

539
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 5: like I.

540
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: Think you forgot, well, I would hope.

541
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: So it's a good sign that I can't remember.

542
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 5: I think like when you have a first or early

543
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 5: one on one, you are almost expecting to either have

544
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 5: a double like two one on ones, and that's also

545
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 5: not guaranteed, or at some point something else that's like

546
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 5: more meaningful to like reinforce like that early connection, which

547
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 5: is again not guaranteed, So you're putting yourself in this

548
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 5: like like limbo of like is it going to happen?

549
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: Is it not? And I just think, yeah.

550
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just safer to go later on when you're like, okay, yeah,

551
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 6: hey this man got two back to back.

552
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you did.

553
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: How do you both feel about the show that you

554
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: fell in love on is on pause?

555
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 5: It is kind of sad, Like, I mean, i'd be

556
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 5: crazy to say it's not like it's it is our

557
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: love story, but like, yeah, I don't know. I think

558
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 5: it might be a good sign, you know, so that

559
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 5: things can just we just need some recalibration there, you know,

560
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 5: it's a little refreshing to fit in the grooves again.

561
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know.

562
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I obviously I wasn't in Bachelor World at

563
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 7: all until after the show when I started learning about it.

564
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 7: It makes a ton of sense for sure, Like, I

565
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 7: just think there's just a lot of things that need

566
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 7: to be tweaked. And even while we weren't during our season,

567
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 7: things were being tweaked, right you kind of saw that

568
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 7: saw Yeah, I saw it happening, So I guess it

569
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 7: sort of makes sense. And yeah, I don't want it

570
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 7: to be canceled. I hope they bring it back because

571
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 7: it is an amazing experience. Obviously, I wouldn't say that

572
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 7: before the show, but haven't been on it. Even for

573
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 7: all the guys who didn't get engaged, it was an

574
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 7: amazing experience.

575
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: So I do hope that they.

576
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 7: Keep it on, just I think need to make some

577
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 7: tweaks and maybe modernize it a little bit.

578
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the Paradise break and then it coming

579
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 6: back this year if it goes well, we'll give some

580
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 6: hope to like, Okay Bachratt also.

581
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 2: Taking a pause and then coming back.

582
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, just because we saw they did that with Paradise,

583
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 6: and you know, maybe it's gonna result in a better show.

584
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 6: Joe and I have been kind of speculating on like

585
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 6: who would have been Bacheorette had Bacherette been a thing

586
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 6: this year, because obviously we're watching the show being like, oh,

587
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 6: like this person would be get this person be good?

588
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 6: Who do you think could have been a good Batchette

589
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 6: or did you hear anything about who was maybe in

590
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 6: talks to me Bauchterrette.

591
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 5: Okay, if we're speaking like girls from Grant season that

592
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 5: was at the tell all. I personally think Alex had

593
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 5: again she had a great one on one conversation with Jesse.

594
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 5: I thought that was like kind of like alluding to

595
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 5: possibly like, Okay, I don't know what's next for me,

596
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: like my love story continues, I think personally for me again,

597
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 5: I'm always reading for her.

598
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: I think she would have been a great candidate.

599
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: And then if they didn't go with you, would you

600
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: have said yes to Paradise?

601
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 5: Ye?

602
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: You would have said no, for sure.

603
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I'm not a cat. I would actually

604
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 5: it would just be really bad for me. I would

605
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 5: be doing myself a disservice, as in, like how I

606
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 5: would have been acting.

607
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 4: I would have been acting crazy down there.

608
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know that after the fact, well exactly,

609
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 7: you'd have been like, I don't know what's going to happen,

610
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 7: and went I feel.

611
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 6: Like it's hard to ask you that question because you've

612
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 6: now seen your friends go down and help played out.

613
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: You'll be like, oh my god, let's go.

614
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 5: First of all, the environment, I'm not the the humidity,

615
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 5: are you?

616
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: You would not have liked the condition.

617
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 5: It's the conditions alone would have That's what would have

618
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: sent me into the spiral. And then yeah, the bugs

619
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: and then again too possessive, sorry in a healthy way, but.

620
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: Like a health way.

621
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 4: What's mine is mine?

622
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: Go away. You're perfect for the Bachelor. You're like, you're

623
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: all mine. Yeah, yeah, so I just yeah, okay.

624
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 6: Well, closing off life updates, you guys are still in

625
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 6: Brooklyn you moved.

626
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 4: Yes, it's crazy.

627
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 5: We're still getting so would you like to talk about Yeah,

628
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 5: ever to get an apartment together?

629
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: It does, and it.

630
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: Does in New York cities perfectly.

631
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 7: Just because like, yeah, you don't have a garage. It's

632
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 7: like all these things. So we're constantly just my guy

633
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 7: wearing things like okay, we need to have three shoes here.

634
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 7: We don't know where to put them.

635
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're put them on the wall and the ceiling

636
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: or something.

637
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 7: Yeah.

638
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 6: The media console under my TV is literally just shoes

639
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 6: in person.

640
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 5: Literally about like three different cabinets.

641
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: It is. It's rough.

642
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 7: And this one, this one is getting things faster than

643
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 7: we cut them away. Buying and gifted gifted, Like yeah,

644
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 7: but buying too. Let's be on buying buying gifted. So

645
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 7: like we're just slowly as we like put things away,

646
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 7: then there will be more more.

647
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, so we're just gonna lose this game.

648
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 3: Then I go when we go.

649
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: Away, when we go away for three days, I come back,

650
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I actually ordered something. Let me

651
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: see if I my package won't be there, and Serena

652
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: will have fifteen. And then I'm like, and I got

653
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: to carry up fifteen packages that aren't even fucking mine.

654
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 4: No, it is my dog gets one compared to like

655
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 4: the twenty.

656
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: It's just what I ordered from Amazon.

657
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's it for this episode of Batchler Happy Hour.

658
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: Thank you dott and Charity, and thank you to David's bridal,

659
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: and let's go enjoy the iHeart Music Awards