1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague West Hodkuits. 3 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Field and West we have another preseason game to talk about, 5 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about reviewing Green Bay's fifty one to 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: thirty four victory last Thursday night at lambeau Field over 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. And uh, I guess we'll start right 8 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: where it started, which is with a pick six by 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Tremont Williams on the opening offensive play of the game. 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: And not only do the Packers start the game that way, 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: they start the second half that way with Josh Jackson 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: getting a pick six. So a couple of really big 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: plays by the defense. And it's also interesting, Mike, that 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: it was those two individuals because if you know anything 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: about the story from this offseason, Trumon Williams actually sort 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: of taking Josh Jackson under his wing a little bit. 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: So the mentor protege sort of angle as well to 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: that scenario, starting first on Truman Williams. What an individual 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: this guy is. And and I don't have the you know, Mike, 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: Spofford Stats Info Department at my my fingertips like you do. 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: But you tell me right now, Michael, how many thirty 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: five year old boundary cornerbacks there are in the NFL 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: that are playing at the level that Truman Williams is 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: playing at. And it's interesting too because you've seen, and 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: with all due respect to him, the Darrell Reeva's is 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: the world and some of these individuals that were Pro 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: Bowl are all pro type cornerbacks. In Williams time start 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: to fade away, and yet here's Trumon Williams still looking 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: like a twenty five year old kid out there in savvy. 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there's very many smarter 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: football players right now in the NFL than Truman Williams. 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: A rookie quarterback in Mason Rudolph his first professional throw, 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: and Williams, who's lining up against Darius Heyward Bay by 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: the way, too, one of the fastest receivers in the league. Uh, 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: just shoots the stopper out there and brings it in 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: for the touchdown. UH. And it was interesting. I asked 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: to meet your goodson about this afterwards. And you know, 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of the game, guys are still trying to 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: get their you know, bearings a little bit, trying to 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: figure out where they're gonna watch from. It was almost 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: before anyone could even react to it, he already has 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: six points up on the board. I mean, that's what 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: Tremon Williams does. Yeah, I think the only thing that 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: would have been kind of cooler. I would have liked 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: to have seen the Davante Adams Cleveland thing. You know, 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: just run into the end zone and it's a preseason game. 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm done for the night and go up the tunnel. 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: I've I've done my job on one play. He did 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: go out there and play some more after that. But 50 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: but fast forwarding then to the start of the second half, 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: as easy as Tremont Williams made his pick six, look, uh, 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Josh Jackson. He put his athleticism on display there with 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: that one, not only to make that catch kind of 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: extending his body to snag that ball cleanly, but then 55 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: keeping his balance, staying in bounds, you know, uh, tight 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: roping the sideline just a little bit there to make 57 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: sure that he could get into the end zone. And 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: a pretty exciting play. And it's interesting too, Mike, because 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, and with you we'll see with jire Alexander, 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: he has a lot of ability to. I don't know though, 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: if I've seen a rookie come in and look the 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: part as fast as Josh Jackson does. He just looks 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: like an NFL cornerback. And the exciting thing is after 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: he was a playmaking eight interception boundary cornerback last year 65 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: for Iowa. I think there's some versatility there the packer's 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: plan to use with him people and I mentioned this 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: last week, they really pigeonheld him to just being a 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: boundary cornerback. Packers are really excited about his versatility now 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: that specific play he makes it outside, kept his feet 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: and bounds and was able to bring it back for 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: the touchdown. He also mentioned it was his mother, Vanessa's 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: birthday that day. He told her he was gonna try. 73 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: I appreciated this. He didn't make the the overblown line 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: of I'm gonna get you an interception today. It was 75 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get you a pick six today 76 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: for your birthday. He accomplished that goal. He also mentioned 77 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: afterwards he was asked why he didn't do it. Lambole 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: Leap same thinking as Marquez Valdes scantling a week earlier. 79 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: It's a priest season game. He wants to save that 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: moment for a meaningful regular season setting. But a really 81 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: nice play from Jackson to very similar to what Williams did, 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: but really out of the extra layer of difficulty with 83 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: being along the sidelines and making sure he state in bounds. Yeah. Now, 84 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: there were also some struggles on defense. We can't ignore 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: that the Steelers did score thirty four points. They were 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: using basically their third and fourth string quarterbacks because Ben 87 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and Landry Jones did not play. One series in particular, 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: I think was troublesome for the Packers defense. James Conner, 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: the running back, big running back from the University of 90 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh from the combine combined, Yeah that when he was 91 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: coming out, he um he was tough to tackle, and 92 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: the Packers missed way too many tackles on him on 93 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: one particular drive. The Steelers kind of got some things 94 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: going there and and got themselves back into the game 95 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: very quickly from a scoreboard standpoint. So a lot of 96 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room, as excited as they were 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: about the pick sixes and making those big plays and 98 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: and as Mike McCarthy says all the time, you have 99 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: to have big play production in this league in order 100 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: to win. UM there are some things that that the 101 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Packers need to clean up, and they had some film 102 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: to look at that that they didn't like. Yeah, Mike 103 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: Petton will be talking this week. I'll be interested to 104 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: see what he what his interpretation of things were, because 105 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: if you're looking from the positive aspect, packers want to 106 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: see that kind of performance out of their cornerbacks. I 107 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: thought Divine was also played really well. Mike McCarthy went 108 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: out of his way to commend that whole group, and 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: that was the group that's coming off you know, the 110 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: kind of uh, you know, troublesome turbulence season from a 111 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: year ago with all the injuries they had. Conversely, though, 112 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: it was between really the hashes where the Packers I 113 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: think we're trying to get their footing a little bit, 114 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: and that was one of the sturdier areas of the 115 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: defensive year ago. So it just shows you that moving target. 116 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: It's the preseason. Obviously, we've talked about it last week. 117 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: The Vanilla looks in that, but it also comes down 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: to basic execution fundamentals and I'm sure, that's gonna be 119 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: one of the big messages they'll be preaching this week 120 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: with guys missed, with the miss tackles with being in 121 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: the right place at the right time, and and trying 122 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: to put a better performance together now going into Oakland 123 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, there was a play there where I 124 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: think there are only ten guys on the field and 125 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: just you know, some miscommunication things that hopefully you get 126 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: them ironed out in the preseason obviously, but you might 127 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: one benefit if I can mention to the Packers those 128 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: first three series basically had the same defense on the 129 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: field the whole time too, So with the safeties, the linebackers, 130 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: outside backers a chance to really create some continuity there. 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think in the long run, you would hope 132 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: if those guys stay healthy, that's what gives you a 133 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: chance of really improving that communication. Yeah, I get some 134 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: things ironed out here. In the month of August you 135 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: mentioned Mike McCarthy said the cornerbacks were kind of the 136 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: standout group on the defensive side of the ball. Offensively, 137 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: it was the tight ends and boy, you just the 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: numbers themselves jump off the stat sheet of the collection 139 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: of Packers tight ends combined for nine catches. I believe 140 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: it's a hundred and six yards with two touchdowns. The 141 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: other thing that I found when I looked a little 142 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: bit more closely at it, you look at those nine receptions, 143 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: seven of those nine receptions produced either a first down 144 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: or a touchdown. There were third down catches that were 145 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: moving the chains. Obviously the two scores by jim one 146 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: by Jimmy Graham won by Robert tani In this tight 147 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: end group, they're going to be some difficult roster decisions 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: when it comes right down to it, because you can't 149 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: keep everybody but um but Mike McCarthy really likes what 150 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: this group is doing collectively. Right now. We talked so much, 151 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Mike with the receivers and okay, you drafted three rookies. 152 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Jake Kumera, what is he thinking, you know, being on 153 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: the practice squad last year. I think it's sort of 154 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: understated right now what these young tight ends have thought. 155 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: A guy like Robert tani in a converted receiver, a 156 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: guy like Emmanuel Bird who finished the season last year 157 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: on the active roster. I think having those three vets 158 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: in there has really brought out the best in those 159 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: two individuals. As well. I think Tanyan specifically this last week, 160 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: whether it's been in practice or those preseason games, has 161 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: looked really sharp, big bodied kids six ft five right 162 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: around tuner and forty pounds. I was talking to him 163 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: after the game and I was asking him about how 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: difficult that that switch was, moving it and going from 165 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: receiver originally a quarterback to receiver to tight end, and 166 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, there was a lot of five thousand, 167 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: six thous and calorie days back then. Because it's not 168 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: just putting on weight. You and I were aficiados and 169 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: being able to put on weight. We can do it 170 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: if we need to. Yeah, you have to do it though, 171 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: with good weight, and that's not always easy to do 172 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: when you're a skill position players, something Tanian's had to do. 173 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: I like Emmanuel Bird as well. He gives you that 174 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: h BAC kind of look, similar to what Lance Kendricks does. Hey, listen, Mike. 175 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: They got five guys right now and then also a 176 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: couple other undrafted rookies that I think are all in 177 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: that hunt. So it's gonna be fun to see how 178 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: these next two three weeks play out. Because Graham, Lewis 179 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: and Kendricks are all different type veteran tight ends. But 180 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: it's history has shown at that position, Mike, if a 181 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: guy can prove themselves worthy, they will go four or 182 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: five deep there. But again, it all comes down to 183 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: how those numbers bear out when you're cutting down to 184 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: the final fifty three. Yeah. A couple other points to 185 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: make with regards to what happened in Thursday night's game. 186 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: I think Jimmy Graham might have set a new standard 187 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: in terms of a veteran player getting excited over a touchdown. 188 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen this guy was fired up. 189 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he did the lambo leap into the stands. 190 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: He was doing the chest bump type of stuff with 191 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: his teammates and knocking him over. He was so he 192 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: was so excited and just just a reflection of of 193 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: the anticipation, the excitement of working with Aaron Rodgers. It 194 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: was a classic, you know, Jimmy Graham type of touchdown 195 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: where the ball is thrown high, six ft six and 196 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: a half whatever he is, he goes up and and 197 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: snags There's nobody else who's gonna be able to catch 198 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: that pass, so he brings that in Marcedes Lewis. Then 199 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: later in the game twenty plus yard passed down the field. 200 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy talked to the day after the game about 201 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: how obviously they really like what Lewis does in the 202 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: blocking aspect of things, and he's picking off some guys 203 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: on the backside blocks where the running backs haven't maybe 204 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: hit those cutback lanes just yet. But McCarthy really likes 205 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: what what Lewis is doing in that respect. But then, boy, 206 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: when you throw in you know that leaping catch over 207 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: the middle to convert on I believe it was on 208 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: third down anyway, it moved the chains because it was 209 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: it was three yards. Um, I think there was a 210 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: pen he added on to it. Maybe a questionable call there, 211 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: but regardless, Um, if Marcedes Lewis can do that kind 212 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: of thing for this offense when he's in there, you know, 213 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: all the more power to him. And then you mentioned 214 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: Kendricks being another veteran player. He makes a couple of catches, 215 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: moves the chains a couple of times, just a ton 216 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: of production from that group. Well, first off, Lance Kendricks 217 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: fits the system perfectly. There were some ups and downs 218 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: in his first year in Green Bay. But you talk 219 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy and how much he really likes to 220 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: use that h back tight end. Lance Kendricks is that 221 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: the prototype for it with his athleticism and his ability 222 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: to play that spot. Started the game in that spot 223 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: with the with the two tight end package that they 224 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: were running. But getting back to lewis the one thing 225 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: that's exciting about him, Mike, in addition to the fact 226 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: that he's probably the best blocking tight ends since maybe 227 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: Bubba Frank's in the mid two thousands, I guess you 228 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: could say. He mentioned in his first interview with Green 229 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Bay Media that Yeah, that's what everybody knows me for. 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: And I'm an inline guy. I'm your traditional big tight end, 231 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: but if you sleep on me, I'm gonna make you pay. 232 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: And I think that was one of those plays and 233 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily saying that Pittsburgh just completely just took him 234 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: out of the equation, but he shows you that there 235 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: is still that big play production there with him and 236 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: it was great to see him make that catch. Whatever 237 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: you want to make of that call on it, he 238 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: has to make that catch. Yeah, you gotta you gotta 239 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: bring that ball down, and he did it. So if 240 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: you can get both of those guys rolling and then 241 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: see what you have with these young guys as well, 242 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: to compliment Jimmy Graham will be interesting to watch. But yeah, 243 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: as you said too, I don't think I've seen undrafted 244 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: rookies who have played, you know, no games past the 245 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: preseason then more excited about a touchdown than what Jimmy 246 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: Graham was there because I think for him mentally, it's 247 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: showing him what's possible in this offense, and exactly with 248 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Aaron Rodgers that can put the ball 249 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: exactly where you want it, that that's that's ultimately what's 250 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: gonna come to pass here if those two can get 251 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: on the same page. And early signs are is that 252 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: they're they've been able to do that. Yeah. I mentioned 253 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: this in our Insider Inbox column that you look at 254 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: the last two regular seasons, the Packers have had a 255 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: grand total of five touchdown receptions from tight ends over 256 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: the regular seasons. In that's going to change with these guys, 257 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: not only just with Jimmy Graham, but but Lewis and 258 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: Kendricks and you know, maybe if they keep one or 259 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: two of these other young guys too and stayed that 260 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: deep at the position. Yeah, and Louis was so consistent 261 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: in his time in Jackson. I know there's only that 262 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: one Pro Bowl from two thousand and ten, but if 263 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: you look at his career stats and how things played out, 264 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: he was durable and he really gave you a consistent presence. 265 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: And now he has Aaron Rodgers throwing him the football 266 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: when it happens. Yeah, all right, Well, we've got more 267 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: to talk about West, but a little bit of sponsored business. 268 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: First at home or here in the stands. We all 269 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: know that Green Bay fans give it their all and 270 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: that takes a lot of energy. So grab a warm 271 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: bowl of Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's meaty goodness fuels the 272 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: greatness of Packers fans everywhere. Try the delicious classic chicken 273 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Noodle soup. Just to visit your local supermarket and ask 274 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: for Campbell's Chunky Sup Official Sup partner of the Green 275 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Okay, going back to our last show, when 276 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: we were previewing preseason game number two, we talked about 277 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: it on Final Thoughts, we talked about it on this show. 278 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: I used the phrase do it again to speaking about 279 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: these young guys who made an impression in the first 280 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: preseason game. Okay, so here's another game, So go out 281 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: and do it again. Jake Kumero did it again. Eighty 282 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: two yards west. I mean a great throw by Deshaun Kaiser, 283 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: a simple out route to the sideline, a long throw 284 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: from either middle of the field or right hash I 285 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: don't remember, but over to the all the way to 286 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: the left sideline. He makes the catch, stays in bounds, 287 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: and then just makes a move to the inside, gets 288 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: the safety turned around, and he's off to the races 289 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: and it's an eighty two yard touchdown. This guy a 290 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: fifty two yard and an eighty two yard touchdown. Now 291 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: in the first two preseason games. What more can you 292 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: ask for? Michael, I want you to actually look onto 293 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: my screen. Here done three D some episodes. First time. 294 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: I'm inviting you to look at my screen. NFL. All 295 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: the leaders passing yards, receiving, yards, receiving all that. Who's 296 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: the receiving yard leader right now in the NFL. Jake 297 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: Kumero by twenty three yards and it's the big play production. 298 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: And I think he made a great point there and 299 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: was one of the big underlying storylines and narratives going 300 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: into this contest. Do it again, do it and show 301 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: it that you can be consistent, not necessarily always just 302 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: making a fifty yard touchdown catch, but being able to 303 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: be a contributor in this offense and be an impact 304 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: player on a consistent basis. And even before that eighty 305 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: two yard touchdown, Kumarro was making those catches that you 306 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: wanted to see him make again. I mean there were 307 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: three of them all told, and obviously that was the 308 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: one everyone looks at. But his consistency and his ability 309 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: to run routes. I really zoned in and isolated on 310 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: him and his route running, even on plays in which 311 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: he didn't catch the ball, and he's so crisp and 312 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: it's so important to be able to do that because 313 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: that's what negates the speed factor, that's what negates the 314 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, the quickness, explosion, athleticism. Kumarro has those attributes, 315 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: but if you don't have them, it doesn't matter. Well, 316 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: if you don't have the route running aspect of it 317 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you will otherwise bring to the table. 318 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: And I just think these last two two and a 319 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: half years have really helped him get to this point 320 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: and for him. First off, Deshaun Kaiser makes a phenomenal 321 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: pass on at play alongside that that out route there 322 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: to get him basically, you know, covered by the cornerback 323 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: cornerbacks trying to even sort of cut it off a 324 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: little bit. Showed some arm strength there for sure, and 325 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: then for Kumarro to be able to get up field, 326 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: beat the safety, get into the end zone. Um, certainly there. 327 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: There's a question there now with the shoulder. Making sure 328 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: everything's okay with him there, And we'll have to see 329 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: how this next week or so plays out. But everything 330 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: he's done Mike from July to August now, it's been 331 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: incredible to watch and see him not stumble but just 332 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: continue a pretty consistent progression. Yeah. And another guy, and 333 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: our producer, Marvin's gonna get mad at me because I 334 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: didn't put him on the list to get the highlights ready. 335 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: But along this topic of do it again, Reggie Gilbert. 336 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: We talked about him after the first game against the Titans. 337 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: He was a presence, maybe not so much statistically, but 338 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: he was a presence in the backfield um against Tennessee, 339 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: but then against the Pittsburgh Steelers two and a half sacks, 340 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: one of those a strip sack. Unfortunately the Packers were 341 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: not able to recover it for a turnover. But um, 342 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, as I said in uh in one of 343 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: our Insider Inbox columns, this is the guy who's raising 344 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: his hand and saying, you know, okay, you're looking for 345 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: the number three outside linebacker on this team behind Clay 346 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Matthews and Nick Perry, I'm your guy. And there's absolutely 347 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: no question right now as the roster is currently constructed 348 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: and what is going on in these preseason games, he 349 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: is that guy well. And the ultimate tip in the 350 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: cap to him as the fact that he starts opposite 351 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: Clay Matthews in this game. And that's so important because one, 352 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: we don't know what Nick Perry's schedule is going to be, 353 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: like we'll talk about in a second him getting activated 354 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: from PUP, but what is availability in the preseason is 355 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: going to be, like, We're not sure. So this is 356 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity for Gilbert to go out there and do 357 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: this against starting level caliber talent, regardless of how long 358 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: he plays. If you can get those first two series 359 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: and make an impact, that's a big confidence boost for 360 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: him as well. What impresses me so much about Gilbert 361 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: is just how consistent he's been. We we talked about 362 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: that with Cumbro and being able to do a game 363 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: after game, week after week. Gilbert has been doing this 364 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: for two years in Green Bay and has been kised since, 365 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: consistently proving himself. And even when last year, you know, 366 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't make the roster he thought he was going to, 367 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: he didn't let that kind of derail his momentum. He 368 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: sat on the practice squad for fifteen weeks, he bided 369 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: his time, and when he got that chance to show 370 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: himself again, he went out there and proved it. It's 371 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: just funny to me now and that I don't want 372 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: to get ahead of myself or put the car before 373 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: the horse. But after so much drama these first two 374 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: years for him, on cut down day, it's becoming pretty 375 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: clear cut. He's making the roster. Now. The question is 376 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: going to be what kind of role could he have 377 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: going forward? In talking to Nick Perry a little bit 378 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: on Monday on Sunday, excuse me, uh, they're expecting this 379 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: guy to contribute this season. They're expecting rotation. Yeah, no 380 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: question about a combination of both patients and dedication on 381 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: the Gilbert to get where he is right now. Because 382 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned all the time that he spent on the 383 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: practice squad, then when he does get into his first 384 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: games as an active roster player at the end of 385 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: last season and behold, look at that, you know, number ninety. 386 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: He is in there making an impact in in games. 387 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: I know the Packers at that stage of the season, 388 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: we're not going to the playoffs, but those games, those 389 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: those snaps, those reps were huge for a guy like 390 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: Reggie Gilbert, and you know it propelled him, I think 391 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: from a confident standpoint, from a belief that he belongs 392 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: in this league standpoint, to come into this third year 393 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: and now do what he's doing right now. And you're 394 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: a big racquetball player, right, Mike, I tried to be 395 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: go out to the y m c A. You finish 396 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: up pretty well, you start, you know, have kind of 397 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: a positive you know, sweet taste your mouth, you get 398 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: done with, you feel good the next week up until 399 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: the next time you play racquetball. I think that's what 400 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: really Gilbert did, is think about what that does for 401 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: a young man that's gone through everything he's gone through, 402 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: making the conversion he went through, to have that whole 403 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: off season to think about what he did at the 404 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: end of the season and trying to do that on 405 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: a more consistent level. Yeah, now quickly before we go, 406 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned it. The Packers did activate Nick Perry off 407 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: the physically unable to perform list. He practiced in a 408 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: closed practice on Sunday. Um seems to have no qualm, 409 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: all the confidence in the world that he will be 410 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: ready for week one, even though there's a very limited 411 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: time frame here for a guy who because of the 412 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: offseason ankle surgery, he missed everything of O T A S. 413 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: And he's missed everything of training camp through the first 414 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: two preseason games up to this point. But a veteran player, 415 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: he's been there, he's done that. He's very confident that 416 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: he'll be ready for week one for whatever workload they 417 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: want to throw out. Dude, tougher than a two dollar surloin. 418 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: I mean, he really is. This is you look at 419 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: what he's played through over the years. You and I 420 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: talked about in our pre production meeting too. This is 421 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: a young man that I mean. I know they throw 422 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: out the injury thing with him and and people the 423 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: fans get frustrated when you look at all the games 424 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: that he's missed. But as I wrote in our story 425 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: on our website yesterday, look at the injuries he's dealt with. 426 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: This is not a guy who just who pulls a 427 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: hamstring or pulls a groin muscle or pulls a calf muscle. 428 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: You know. This is a guy who's you know, breaking 429 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: bones and you know, I mean a broken foot and 430 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: then playing through them, yeah, and and playing through them 431 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: at different times. He attributes the injuries. The bottom line 432 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: is he's a violent player. He plays the game in 433 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: a in a violent way, and that in a lot 434 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: of ways is what has led to his injury problems 435 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: over the years. But when he is healthy, it's that 436 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: style of play that is difficult for offensive tackles to handle. 437 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: So you can't ask him to just change the way 438 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: he plays because then he won't be effective. This is 439 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: a guy who had eleven sacks in fourteen games in 440 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: ten and then in his first eight games last year 441 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: he had seven sacks, and then the injuries in the 442 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: second half of the season. You know, he was in 443 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: and out of the lineup and then eventually placed on 444 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: I R. If he can stay healthy, and I know 445 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: that's always a big gift with Nick Perry, but if 446 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: he can stay healthy, this is a guy who can 447 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: have a huge impact on this You know when he 448 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: mentioned too, you know, you don't really know what that 449 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: fine line is. And but I think one thing that 450 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: we can all agree on is that if you can 451 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: get Reggie Gilbert going, you can get some of these 452 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: young guys going behind him and remove that potential of 453 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: him having to play sixty six snaps a game like 454 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: kind of like it was in that first month of 455 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: last season. In the end, it's going to give you 456 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: a better Nick Perry. So well, we'll have to see 457 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: all the season plays out, but I think Nick Perry 458 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: from a production standpoint, was right where you needed him 459 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: to be through the first six seven games. The last 460 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: season he was. He was on pace for a second 461 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: straight double digit sack season. There's no question about it. 462 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: He was definitely on pace for that. Unfortunately it didn't happen. 463 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens now. You know, he has a 464 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: couple of weeks to get ready. Regardless of whether or 465 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: not that is in preseason action, the team reps will 466 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: be really important for him getting ready for the regular season. Well, 467 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: with that, we will call it a wrap on this 468 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 469 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team and of training camp on 470 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: packers dot com. On Twitter, you can find him at 471 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: west hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers is still 472 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll see 473 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: you next time.