1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: We know people should exercise, and yet when we tell 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: people who are overweight and diabetic to go exercise, they 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: don't actually lose weight and they very rarely improve their diabetes. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Why is that? The best selling author and post the 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: number one healthy well in his. 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Podcast On Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey, everyone, welcome back 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: Thanks to each and every one of you that come 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: back every week to listen, learn and grow. Now, today's 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: guest is someone that I'm really excited to dive in 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: with because he's an expert in his field and has 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: incredible insights, practical steps and habits that we can all 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: implement to feel better, do better, and do good in 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: the world. Now, I first came across him when I 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: was using one of his products, which we'll speak about 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: a bit later on, and so when I had the 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: opportunity to have him on the show, it was an 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: immediate yes because I'd been taking this product. It worked 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: wonders for me, and that always is a good fit 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: for someone that I want to sit down with and 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: speak to. I'm speaking about Zach Bush, MD, a physician 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: specializing in internal medicine and hospice care. He's an internationally 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: recognized educator and thought leader on the microbiome as it 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: relates to health, disease, and food systems. Please welcome to 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: On Purpose, Zach Bush. Zach, thank you for being here. 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: What a pleasure to be with you, Jay and the 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: whole audience. Thank you. 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm so grateful, honestly to talk to you today 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: because one of the things I love doing on the 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: show is sitting down with people who've dedicated their life 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: to helping people feel better, do better, and do good. 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: And I feel that a lot of your work is 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: entirely dedicated to that. And in order for me and 34 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: my audience to get to know you a bit better, 35 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: I'd love to start off by asking you, you know, 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: what was your journey from conventional medicine to internal medicine 37 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: and how did you even move in that direction, because 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: I think that today we're seeing a lot more of that. 39 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: But you've been doing this for a long time, so 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: I wonder what that transition was like. 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: It was a step wise journey into a lot of 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: left hand turns and pivot, I think. But the journey 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: began in the Philippines. I took a hard left turn 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: in my career. I was going into engineering, took a 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: year off, and then had the opportunity to birth babies 46 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: in the Philippines with a group of international midwives, and 47 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: that experience of being around the birth of human life 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: was so riveting and so engaging that the idea of 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: returning to a program in robotics and machines just couldn't 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: capture my imagination anymore. And so that was my interer 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: pointing to the health career and initially thinking maybe nursing 52 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: nurse practitioner, and then eventually slippery slope took me into 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: the idea of just going down that medical doctor route, 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: and that journey came along in an interesting point in 55 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: human history where I didn't realize in the nineteen nineties, 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: none of us knew at the time that we were 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: about to witness the most extraordinary explosion of chronic disease 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: in human history. We were about to see the complete 59 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: collapse of the human immune system, the human neurologic system, 60 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: and the debut of things like attention death is a disorder, 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: gluten sensitivity, lime disease, chronic fatigue syndromes, chronic pain syndromes, 62 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: things that had simply not existed ten years, let alone 63 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: in the previous thousand years. And so it was a 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: very interesting time to enter into this world of science 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: and medicine at the point where we would lose it all. 66 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: And now we recognize, you know, thirty years later, that 67 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: we're now in the midst of the sixth extinction event, 68 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: where we're losing biology at such an extraordinary rate, and 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: we see not only cancer epidemics and autimmune epidemics and 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: the rest, we're seeing pandemics and the results of this 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: real disruption of neural anatomy and attention deficit to autism 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: from Parkinson's to Alzheimer's, and this breakdown in our cell 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: cell communication such that we would really lose our self 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: identity in this milieu of inflammation and destruction at the 75 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: cellular level, which of course is manifesting at the macro 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: level as well. And so we see the dissolution of 77 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: socio political systems and this polarization and the fear, guilt, 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: shame paradigms amplifying as our biology collapses. So never before 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: or so interesting a moment to step into this space, 80 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: and it's been a real exciting journey into realizing that 81 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: the end is near of an old paradigm and the 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: beginning is knife for everything that we perhaps have not 83 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: even yet imagined, because we are starting to realize that 84 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: to be human, to be human, health is to really 85 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: a description of an ecosystem rather than a single species 86 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: trying to met out a survival paradigm within a complex 87 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: ecosystem of life. 88 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: You know, one of the reasons why I've been so 89 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: interested in your work is because I found myself going 90 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: from being quite a healthy individual to then randomly having 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: inflammation and having gut issues and whatever it may have been. 92 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: And none of them were things I could even explain, 93 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: like I was living a generally healthy diet or I 94 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: was pretty active or whatever it may be. But still 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: I'd started to see all these things, and so what 96 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: started in the first place at such a global level, 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: like what has been going on with our health, the 98 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: food system and everything else it's been happening that has 99 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: caused it today where I think the majority of us 100 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: either are experiencing it or know someone who's experiencing it. 101 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I had to go into the problem 102 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: before I found some of the answers to your questions 103 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: there and diving deeper and deeper into the problem. I 104 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: was as trained in internal medicine, which is general hospital 105 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: care kind of your adult medicine, and conventional pharmaceutical model, 106 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: running ICUs and the like running how was the chief resident, 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: training residence and med students at the University of Virginia, 108 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: and was finding that I wasn't finding the answer as 109 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: to how do I make my patients healthier. I was 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: chasing disease and it was getting more and more difficult. 111 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: It seemed every year to actually have a positive outcome 112 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: with my patients. And so I felt like I needed 113 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: more training, and I did endochronology and metabolism for another 114 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: three years, and that training really took me into what 115 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: is the communication network of this exquisite symphony that we 116 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: would call a human body. How's liver talk to the brain, 117 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: How's the brain talk back to the adrenal glands. How 118 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: the adrenal glands talked to those kidneys? And so that 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: was the fascination of that hormonal network of communicator, and 120 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: that drove me down deeper into the second half of 121 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: that specialty, which is called metabolism. How does energy get 122 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: liberated within a human cell to manifest life and the 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: answer was just becoming obvious, was that it's actually not 124 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: the human cells creating the energy. It's these tiny little microbes, 125 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: these little bacteria that live inside of our cells, that 126 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: was liberating energy for the human cell to thrive upon. 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: And those little bacteria, often called mitochondria, are very susceptible 128 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: to toxins. I was developing toxins to kill cancer cells 129 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: and was watching those toxins damage this ecosystem within and 130 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: then make it very difficult for a cell to recover 131 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: on a cancer journey. And so it was a realization 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: that this paradigm of poisoning for the effort of health 133 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: was just chasing for the wind. So I'd spent seventeen 134 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: years of academia becoming an expert in celluar biology, becoming 135 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: an expert ultimately and this little niche of chemotherapy, realizing 136 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: that at the end, oh my gosh, I'm chasing the wind. 137 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: No matter how good my chemo theay he gets, it's 138 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: never going to actually solve the problem that I face 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: because actually, in human history, not a single case of 140 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: cancer has ever been caused by a lack of chemotherapy. 141 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: And so it was that kind of slippery slope of 142 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: root cause roots solution with cause res solution to realize 143 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm not anywhere near the root of this thing. But 144 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: my chemotherapy was in vitamin A compounds, which are nutrients 145 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: obviously from food systems, and so that was a backdoor 146 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: into the question of what happened to nutrition that we 147 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: would suddenly have all this cancer. If nutrition can kill cancer, 148 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: where did that nutrient base go? And that led us 149 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: then to some pretty exciting answers. And I had to 150 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: leave the university setting at that point because the research 151 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: that I next wanted to do couldn't really fit into 152 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: the paradigm of here's a drug, here's the disease, and 153 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: I was starting to want to ask deeper questions about 154 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: how does life happen, how does biology happen? So I 155 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: left in twenty ten started a clinic that was based 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: in nutrition, an idea that nutrition could be the base 157 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: for reversing chronic disease and perhaps ultimately preventing it. And 158 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: that was a daunting and scary moment for me because 159 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: I had been trained nothing at all on nutrition, and 160 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: so I was desperately looking for everything I could put 161 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: my hands on, and the nutrition sciences to try to 162 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: find a path forward, and I was finding that the 163 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: nutrition science is really disconnected from the deeper understanding of 164 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: how biology worked. We were practicing on a fifty year 165 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: old beliefs about nutrition with the feud pyramid and all this, 166 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: when in fact we kind of knew already at the 167 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: biology level that that was a miss, but we hadn't 168 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: matured that science and long winding path. It turns out 169 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: that I found myself back to not recent medicine, but ancient, 170 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: ancient medicine. And we find that long before Hippocrates came 171 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: along to say we are what we eat kind of thing, 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Chinese medicine had recognized that we must realize that we 173 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: are manifestation of the nutrient nutrition, the connection to nature. 174 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: And maybe deeper than Chinese medicine are veda, which was 175 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: a deep, deep feel that you've studied extensively with your 176 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: tea company and everything else. This science of iravative dates 177 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: back nine thousand years, and comparing that to like fifty 178 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: years of food science that we throw at the wall 179 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: right now, it's been proven over and over and over 180 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: again in vast different people's groups and genetics and everything else, 181 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: and so in the end, that long winding path took 182 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: me back into this indigenous realization of we are of nature, 183 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: We are of the earth. Each one of us is 184 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: of the earth, and this is why we call ourselves earthlings, 185 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: I suppose. But this human condition identifies that nature intended 186 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: us into our existence and into our resilience and into 187 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: our full potential. And it's in this last one hundred 188 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: years where we've accelerated this march away from that nature 189 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: and the convenience lifestyles and the technology boom and everything else. 190 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: And this has been that pivot point of how did 191 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: we lose health? We simply distanced ourselves from nature further 192 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: than we'd ever been, and we did it at these fundamentals, 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: as you point out, of the food system. And so 194 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: that was my slippery slope into what's happened to the food, 195 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: which took us into what happened to the soil, which 196 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: has taken us into a realization of, oh my gosh, 197 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: we became chemically dependent, both in our farming practices and 198 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: our pharmacy of the hospital. And when we took both 199 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: of those industries and said we will technologically create a 200 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: new chemical that will allow us to grow food better, 201 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: and be healthier. We lost our underpinnings, We lost the 202 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: foundation of nutritional health on the planet and the vitality 203 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: of humanity. 204 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: It's incredible, isn't it That it feels like such small, 205 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: simple changes, but then they achieve incredible scale, right like 206 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: the idea of if you could find that to be 207 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: the root. But the rate at which we've all been 208 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: negatively impacted by it has been colossal. I guess right now, 209 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: the individuals that are listening and all of us, it's 210 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: kind of we're in a challenging place because I think 211 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: people want to be healthier, but they feel extremely conditioned 212 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: by how they've been raised, they grew up, the kinds 213 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: of foods that they've been exposed to, the types of 214 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: convenience as you said that they have already. And I 215 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: find that that's probably one of the hardest things, is 216 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: habit change, because like you said, we've marched so far 217 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: away from being at one with the environment, or being 218 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: at one with the soil, or being so close to 219 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: our food, and now it's being so far away that 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: it almost feels more abnormal to go back to nature 221 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: because of the conditioning that exists, and so how difficult 222 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: have you found it to help people actually reconnect with 223 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: that which we've forgotten, when that's actually who we were. 224 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: If that makes sense. 225 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: I think it's almost impossible when you sit down with 226 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: somebody in the constructor I'm going to prove to you 227 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: that you're wrong. But it's incredibly easy to get there 228 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: when you start in a state of compassion. Compassion is 229 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: a much different energy than empathy, and I think we've 230 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: lost compassion for our belief and empathy. Empathy is that 231 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: effort to bring my energy, my vibration to your vibration. 232 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: Let you be the tuning fork, because you might have 233 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: been just been diagnosed with a condition. If I sit 234 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: down with a cancer patient, their vibration is in fear 235 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe guilt and shame because they're gonna 236 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: leave their children behind at a young age or whatever 237 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: it is. And so if I dive into empathy and 238 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: try to match that vibration, we get stuck there. We 239 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: get stuck in the fear, guilt, shame paradigm, and I'm 240 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: suddenly steeped in fear of like, I don't think I'm 241 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: equipped to help you free yourself with this disease. I 242 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: think you are going to die, I think that you know, 243 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: and so I have these deep fears within me around 244 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: the death of my patient, and they have that deep 245 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: fear of death within themselves. And so that's typically where 246 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: we go as humans right now, as we're taught that 247 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: this empathic state of what is the vibration of the 248 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: other person across from you? Can you match that that 249 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: before you're in it together, whereas compassion is a much 250 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: different state of recognizing where they're at, listening to the 251 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: song they're singing, but not becoming part of that symphony, 252 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: and holding this other space, this other potential reality of Okay, 253 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: yes this has happened, but what is the alternative to it? 254 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: And I think you lose that when you slip into 255 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: that fear state, when you lose your creativity. As soon 256 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: as that fight or flight state kicks in on your 257 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: sympathetic nervous system, the creative part of your brain shuts down. 258 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: When we stimulate the adrenal glands, which is of course 259 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: what we're doing to our children with adderall and all this, 260 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: we stimulate with drugs those adrenal glands and they lose 261 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: their creativity. So we have whole generations now that have 262 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: been taught to answer multiple choice tests at the cost 263 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: of their own creativity and performance is linked to their 264 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: adrenaline levels. That is basically the same thing that's happening 265 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: in every doctor's office in the world, as the physician 266 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: is afraid that they're not going to prevent death in 267 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: this patient, and the patient is afraid that they are dying. 268 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: And for all that fear of an endpoint, we can't 269 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: imagine life as a continuum, as a continuing energetic event 270 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: that's vital and constantly regenerating itself. And so that's kind 271 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: of the spiral that we were in and finding our 272 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: way out of that had to deal with realize that 273 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: nature has never seen an endpoint, has never seen death 274 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: of an individual or species, as endpoints always new potential energy, 275 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: and the beauty on this planet has continued to get 276 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: more rich, more diverse, and ultimately more intelligent with every 277 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: single iteration. We call it the sixth extinction that we're 278 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: in because there's been five others, and yet life booms 279 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: on this planet in ways that we couldn't have imagined 280 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: before that last extinction. Sixty million years ago, the dinosaurs 281 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: were walking around on top soil levels that were thirty 282 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: feet deep. We're lucky to find three inches of good 283 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: time soil on the Earth right now, thirty feet deep 284 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: top soils, root systems of ferns and palms that allowed 285 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: for those forms of vegetation to fuel those dinosaurs in 286 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: to these massive bodies, because there was so much nutrition, 287 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: so much energy available. And then the top topsoil died. 288 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: An asteroid hit, It choked the top soils out, and 289 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: life on Earth disappeared for a moment, and then it 290 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: came back, not with dinosaurs, but with birds, mammals, humans, 291 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: not with palms and ferns, but palms, ferns and flowering trees, 292 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: deciduous trees, flowering plants, wild flowers, and so this has 293 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: been a journey of iteration on this planet of life 294 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: more rich and more intelligent at every single turn. And 295 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: this needs to be embraced as a society right now, 296 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: as we anticipate the death of many things, we need 297 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: to get excited for what will come next. More richness, 298 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: more beauty is going to happen, and that's programmed into 299 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: the matrix of life. It will get better, it will 300 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: get more diverse, and it will get more intelligent. And 301 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: if we imagine the Earth leaping from dinosaurs to birds 302 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: and mammals and humans. Where do we go from birds, 303 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: mammals and humans to what? What species has this Earth 304 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: already imagined and already coated for in the virom? The 305 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: virom is a description of a library of genetic potential. 306 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: It's all of the viruses of the planet. It's a database. 307 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Those viruses are new potential genes waiting to be expressed 308 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: by whatever life happens next. Right now, in my body, 309 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: there's ten to fifteen viruses coursing through my bloodstream. It's 310 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: ten billion viruses in my bloodstream right now. Not the 311 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: same virus, has repeated, different viruses, ten billion new genes 312 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: checking in with every cell in my body. To say, 313 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: is this an opportunity? Is this an opportunity? Is this 314 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity? So as I let go of my own biology, 315 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: if I let go of fear, guilt and shame, is 316 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: there a possibility for me to leap forward with my 317 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: own biology, with the genes that are within me right 318 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: now coursing through my bloodstream. Because I'm a microcosm of 319 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: extinction and rebirth. And this is where medicine has really 320 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: failed us as it was a belief of scarcity rather 321 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: than abundance, death rather than rebirth, fear of being that 322 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: everything was against us rather than perhaps everything is for us. 323 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: And this has been slippery journey for me of realizing 324 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: at each turn I under estimated our potential and we 325 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: are sitting here at the pinnacle of a great rebirth 326 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: of humanity if we choose to go that direction. 327 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: I guess if anyone's feeling that way on a personal level, 328 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: where they're living in that scarcity, they're living in that fear, 329 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 2: they're living in that insecurity of and just challenge of 330 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I don't know where 331 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: to start. There's so many things that I need to 332 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: sort out. With my health, there's you know, I'm worried 333 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: about I keep hearing about my nervous system and the microbiome, 334 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: and it just feels like overwhelming because we've been so 335 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: uneducated and untrained in our bodies. Right, It's almost like 336 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: we've been given these bodies since we've been born, but 337 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: we're so uneducated about how to use them and what 338 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: they need and what's good for them and what's bad 339 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: for them. And so if someone's feeling in a state 340 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: of overwhelm, Where do you suggest they begin. 341 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: We've we've been working for the last fifteen years in 342 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: our laboratory and in our clinics to sort out what's 343 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: the simplest approach to beginning again, because I think we 344 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: really are at the end of physiology. When we see 345 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: two year olds with osteosarcoma, when we see fifteen year 346 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: olds with psychotic major depression, and when we see a 347 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: twenty year old with life threatening autommune disease. All of 348 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: these conditions are saying that we need a radical revolution. 349 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: And so we've been working through all of the complexity 350 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: of the diseases and the root causes and everything else 351 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: to find that there's really eight very basic things that 352 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: start to build physiology from the ground up at the 353 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: cell level and therefore at the organism level, and from 354 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: the organism to the species. And those eight things really 355 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: revolve around some very basic lifestyle interventions, the first of 356 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: which is coming out of fear. And so we spend 357 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: the first segment of this process of finding self within 358 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: the context of all the anxiety that you have that 359 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: you might feel like you're dying, that you feel like 360 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: it's so feel like all the cards are stacked against you. 361 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: How do we get out of that paradigm quickly? And 362 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: that's an effort of really bringing the arrow inwards, because 363 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: right now the medicine and the world at large are 364 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: trying to point outside of you to say there's your problem, 365 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: there's your problem, there's your problem, there's your problem, there's 366 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: a problem. So turning that arrow inward to say, where's 367 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: my solution? And you and I talked about this briefly 368 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: before the podcast started, of like, how did you know 369 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: your journey? How did you get from North London to 370 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and everything in between? And you answered very beautifully. 371 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: You said, I just listened to my intuition and I 372 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: never tried to judge it for did it make sense 373 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: or non And that's basically what's happened at our clinic 374 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: is we had to go inward and ask where does 375 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: this health come from? Because I wasn't trained into health. 376 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: I was trained into disease management. And so as myself 377 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: and my colleagues started to put that arrow inward, we 378 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: found while this is really exciting, it's super simple. In 379 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: the end, It's not a thousand diseases against humans, It's 380 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: one health waiting to emerge. And so as you come 381 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: out of the fear paradigm and that external definition of 382 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: self and you become you, then your guide is your 383 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: future self, your highest self, whatever is it being expressed 384 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: to make you alive today with a self identity, which 385 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: is pretty bizarre. It's strange that you know, you wake 386 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: up every morning and you know your Jay. It's strange 387 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: that I haven't woken up and at some point thought 388 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm j shehddy because we're really the same thing, like 389 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: we're saying biology same thing. I think I'm in Los Angeles. 390 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: I could have bumped into the jwave very easily and 391 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: been like, I'm Jay shehtdy. And yet you keep being you, 392 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: no matter how close and proximity others are around you, 393 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: no matter how much food you share the same beliefs, 394 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: you share, the same You keep being you. And the 395 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: really trippy thing is I get to in that ic 396 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: U setting, see people let go of the body and die, 397 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: heart stops, brain waves come to a standstill, they leave 398 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: that body, and then they suddenly reanimate. We're doing chest compressions, 399 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: we're shocking on whatever's going on, or sometimes they just 400 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: spontaneously come back into that body, and they traveled after 401 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: that body stopped, after that heartbeat stopped, they traveled around, 402 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: sometimes in the room, sometimes great distances around the planets 403 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: that visit loved ones, et cetera. Sometimes off the planet 404 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: into the cosmos. And at no point in that after 405 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: death journey do they lose track of their self identity. 406 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: And so that is a very strange thing about near 407 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: death experiences that has I think has been under explored. 408 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: Your identity preceded your biologic expression and will follow your 409 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: biologic expression as your body. But you're you when we 410 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: begin health at that point of realizing that's a permanent 411 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: condition that can't be destroyed by biologic processes. That's your 412 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: original math. That's the vibration you're going to follow. For me, 413 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: that's the anatomy of the soul. A soul is something 414 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: that has been captured by the religious world to describe 415 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: the thing that will supersede your life. But on the 416 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: science side, it is perhaps a great description of the 417 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: energy field that allows you to organize in your mother's womb. 418 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: At the beginning of your one cell that starts to divide, 419 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: just like a tumor divides, and then suddenly around replication 420 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty. You start to differentiate, and suddenly 421 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: a cell becomes a kidney cell or anu logic cell 422 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: or whatever it's going to become. And not only does 423 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: it become a unique cell, it knows where to migrate 424 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: to in a three dimensional map to become that organ system. 425 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: And we cannot find that map in this inside the 426 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: human cell or in biology. That map seems to be 427 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: in the physics field, which is to say, in the 428 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: electromagnetic field, which is to say, in the space between everything. 429 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: Your body, as solid as it appears to me right now, 430 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: is ninety nine point ninety nine nine percent vacuum space 431 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: filled with an electromatic field, which is super dense that 432 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: organizes the reality of tissue around it. This solid is 433 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: organized by the vacuum. And so that thing, that thing 434 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: that organizes jays shetty every millionth of a second to 435 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: reorganize itself, because you just appear and reappear constantly, approximately 436 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: every millionth of a second, and you keep being you, 437 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: you keep coming back every millionth of a second, So 438 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: one million times a second, I'm remanifesting in front of 439 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: you with a map from that electromatic field. So perhaps 440 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: that's the anatomy of the soul. Perhaps that's the thing 441 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: that holds the original you, and we have set this 442 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: world up for disease by convincing you you're a whole 443 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: bunch of identities outside of yourself. You're a son, you're 444 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: a father, you're a mother, you're an employer, you're an employee, 445 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: you're a boss, this or that. It was Harely. The 446 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: more altruistic those titles get, the more likely they are 447 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: to diverge you from self. For me, that was the 448 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: title doctor. The whole world wanted to make me feel 449 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: like that was the most important thing I had accomplished, 450 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: and this is what gave me value in society. And 451 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: it's been a long, bumpy thirty years since getting that 452 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: MD kind of in behind my name to realize it's 453 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: not the thing, It's not me. I'm something bigger than that. 454 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: I am something more true, true than a compilation of 455 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: somebody else's curriculum and some doctor's title. And when you 456 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: find that original vibration of this is me, you become 457 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: very potent. We start to tune to something bigger than 458 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: the biology would have you believe in, and in that 459 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: you start to do something different. With your relationship to everything. 460 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: And that's the a point journey that we've put together 461 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: for the Journey of Intrinsic Health, which is our program 462 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: that we've been helping answer that question how do you 463 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: get to health? These eight steps are laid out in 464 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: this eight week journey and it's about that change of 465 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: relationship to your food, to actually water. Water is really 466 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: backwards as to our understanding of how we hydrate and 467 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: what water is. And then we also get confused about 468 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: breath and our relationships to each each little respiration we take. 469 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: We're confused about what it happens when we fast and 470 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: what does that paucity of stress on the neurologic system 471 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: look like. Confused about exercise. We do exercise backwards as well, 472 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: and so it's re forming the relationship to all of 473 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: these lifestyle things that you've been told are important, but 474 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: when you go and do the thing that's important, you 475 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: don't get healthier. And that was a big question mark 476 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: for all of us in the medical field of like, 477 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: we know people should exercise, and yet when we tell 478 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: people who are overweight and diabetic to go exercise, they 479 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: don't actually consistently lose weight, and they very rarely improve 480 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: their diabetes. Why is that we know movement is important 481 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: and yet it's not working. And I think it's because 482 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: of this externalization of everything. And so since you're not you, 483 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: and you're this external representation of yourself, your relationship to 484 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: all these things food, movement, breath, fasting, the rest are 485 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: all backwards as well. And so this is the eight 486 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: week journey into the obvious, but in a completely new 487 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: lens of everything's going to go internal instead of externally 488 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: sought after. And that's changed a lot of everything, and 489 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: it's allowed me to close my physical clinic where I 490 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: was seeing one patient of time and go to a 491 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: coaching model where we are witnessed to the healing process 492 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: rather than mandating the healing process, rather than the prescriptive 493 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: process of an MD writing down eight prescriptions and saying 494 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: this will make you better, realizing that can never make 495 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: anybody bigger better because those prescriptions are eight externals, you know, 496 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: stimuli that have absolutely nothing to do with the roof 497 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: cause of their disease. And so this has been an 498 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: exciting journey of reversing out of my education and into 499 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: the realization that there's nothing more beautiful and potent than 500 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: a human being in their own field, in their own self, 501 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: in their own original math. 502 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: I'd love to dive into some of those eight if 503 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: it's okay, because I think identity is such a cool one, 504 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: which you just touched on beautifully there. You touched on 505 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: water there. I'd love to understand a bit more about that, 506 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: because I think that's kind of like not even talked about. 507 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: I've barely heard. I don't know my wife's I always 508 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: call my wife a water snob because she's very, very 509 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: careful about the what do we drink and the what 510 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: do we you know, shower with and everything else. But 511 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: if you could guide us to understanding what you're sharing 512 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: a new a week program around water, at least as 513 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: a high level, could you guide us through that right now? 514 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: When we think about liquid water, we tend to think 515 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: of this stuff in this glass here and tastes good 516 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: to drink, It feels good to drink when it's clean, 517 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: and it has this kind of refreshing quality to it 518 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: for a lot of us. But my body is seventy 519 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: percent water, and not a single ounce of that is 520 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: in this form. The vast majority of the water within 521 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: my body is actually in a crystalline structure. If you've 522 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: ever seen jello eaten jello made jello, you see liquid 523 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: turn into a solid. And that gel like structure with 524 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: hidden yellow is the result of complex crystal structures of 525 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: the water organizing itself around proteins. And that's how I 526 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: hold water. And it turns out that my biologic age 527 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: and my likelihood of disease correlates perfectly with how much 528 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: crystal water do I hold. That crystal water is holding 529 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: something within it, and it's light. In a very amazing 530 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: bio logic phenomenon, this planet is able to capture solar 531 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: energy in chlorophyll, which are tiny little mitochondria that live 532 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: inside of plants, a little bacteria, and these chlorophyll have 533 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: been able to take CO two and turn it into batteries, 534 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: and the battery is a long chain of carbon double 535 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: carbon bond is the most efficient battery ever invented by 536 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: nature that takes no energy to maintain the light within that. 537 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: So sunlight is captured between two CO two molecules and 538 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: then eight and then twelve, and these long carbon chains, 539 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: and then we digest those by consuming food, and we 540 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: liberate glucose sugars carbohydrates, fatty acids, and the oils in 541 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: our foods, and we package that up in our liver 542 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: and send it out to every cell in the body. 543 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: And it turns out that human cells don't know how 544 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: to use any of that glucose for fatty acids. There's 545 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: no mechanism for releasing the sunlight, so it has to 546 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: pass it down to the mitochondria living inside our cells. 547 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: So it's basically the mitochondria in plants communicating potential energy 548 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: to the mitochondria within us. Those mitochondria start breaking apart 549 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: the CO two and start releasing sunlight back into the 550 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: side of their matrix, and that's what's being held within 551 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: the crystal structure of water. And it turns out that 552 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: when I drink water like this, I'm doing very little 553 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: to support the crystalline structure within my cells. For this 554 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: to turn into a crystal, it takes a complex relationship 555 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: to a vast array of salts, mineral amino acid complexes, 556 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: and protein structures. And that's where we kind of lost 557 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: the hydration story. If I drink this water's going to 558 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: feel good. It's going to feel like I'm hydrating myself 559 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: for a few minutes. But I'm going to pee this 560 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: out in the next forty five minutes. It'll if I 561 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: haven't emptied my bladder, it will be citty in my bladder. 562 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: It's no longer in my body. It's outside of my 563 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: body again. Because this pure water has no reservoir in 564 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: my body. It has to pass quickly through my bloodstream 565 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: back to the kidneys and get out to my urine. 566 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: And so the journey into health is really a rediscovery 567 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: of how do you get water into the crystal stage. 568 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: And it's a complex journey in some ways, but it 569 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: is an exciting premise to begin with. Is I need 570 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: to be more full of light? How do I become 571 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: more full of light so that I'm more vital, so 572 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: I can repair at a faster rate than ever before. 573 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: Because there's more poisons in my environment than any other 574 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: time in human history, I need more crystalline structure. And 575 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: so we reevaluate water at that journey from your gut 576 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: into the crystal form inside your cells, where it turns 577 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: into that gel battery storage place for that light liberation 578 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: from the sunlight, for the animation of life to happen. 579 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: And so that's a little bit of a nutshell of 580 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: a lot more content that can be drilled into. But 581 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of that flip on the head 582 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: of water. 583 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and you said you can actually 584 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: test you can actually see your age through the quality 585 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: of that crystalline structure. You can test for that. How 586 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: do you test for that? 587 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: The easiest way to test for is a relatively old technology. 588 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: It's called a phase angle calculation. But you use an 589 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: impedance monitor, which is a description of just measurement of resistance. 590 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: And it looks like ekg leads. If you've ever seen 591 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: an ekge twelve leads around the heart and all that stuff. 592 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: They're sticky little paths. You'll put one on the wrists, 593 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: one on the forefinger, one on the ankle, one on 594 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: the toe, and then you lay perfectly flat and you 595 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: measure across that column of water that's now at an 596 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: equal lateral level to the Earth and to gravity. You 597 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: measure the amount of electrical resistance across that column, and 598 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: from that you can calculate, based on body weight and 599 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: your height and all this stuff, how much water is 600 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: inside every cell. And when you calculate that, then you 601 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: get a very good biologic age and biological estimate of 602 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: your vitality. An ideal phase angle is up around ten twelve. 603 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody at ten or twelve. The healthiest 604 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: patients walking my clinic are typically around a seven or 605 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: an eight on their phase angle. Anybody coming in with disease, 606 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: let's go with cancer for the endpoint. There is typically 607 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: around a four. Death happens at three point five. And 608 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: so what I just told you is ideal health is ten, 609 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: death is three point five, and cancer shows up at four. 610 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: And here we're telling everybody they're dying of cancer. As 611 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: it turns out, when you look at the simple reality 612 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: of water inside a cell, cancer is one of the 613 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: last symptoms of a complete disconnect from the energetics of life. 614 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: Cancer happens when you no longer are connected to the 615 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: energy of that plant, of that chlorophyll, of that sunlight 616 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: that charged life in the first place. And so that's 617 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: where we go with this eight week journey is where 618 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: did it break down? How did you go from ten 619 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: to three? How did you get from ten to four? 620 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: Whatever it is? And then how do we start to 621 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: back you up that track of crystaline water? How do 622 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: we get your body to hold more light energy? So 623 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: that you're more vital, so that you accelerate every enzyme process, detoxification, repair, regeneration, 624 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: protein structures throughout all matrices. All of that happens automatically 625 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: when the light goes up. You mentioned a product earlier, 626 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: the gut supplement you probably got put on by your nutritionus. 627 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: But the journey into that phenomenon was our understanding of 628 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: soil and food And how did it break down so 629 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: quickly was the question we were trying to answer. How 630 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: did we go from nineteen ninety two to two thousand 631 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and two that ten years saw the complete dissolution of 632 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: human health across all ages, across all organ systems in 633 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: a ten year period, across all peoples. Really that we're 634 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: touching Western civilization, Western food systems. And in that journey 635 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: we discovered glyphisate, and glyphasate is the primary herbicide or 636 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: weed killer in the vast majority ninety plus percent of 637 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: the weed killers on the planet. We now spend billions 638 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: of dollars a year spraying this thing into our environment. 639 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: We have an estimated four billion pounds of glyfe staate 640 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: being sprayed into our soil and water systems worldwide. And 641 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: it turns out as our laboratory has been studying this 642 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: compound for a decade now. Every time you touch human 643 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: cell systems with glyfe state the communication between them, it 644 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: disconnects you from the boundary of being human, and it 645 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: dissolves that to the point where you don't know where 646 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: your begin or end of human biology, and your immune 647 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: sism has to turn on to fight everything. So you 648 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: were eating pretty healthy, you were exercising, you were living 649 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: a pretty affluent lifestyle compared to the rest of the world, perhaps, 650 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: and yet you weren't thriving because there was a chemical 651 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: now in your food that was dissolving the boundary event 652 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: and your energy was now leaking out of your body. 653 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: Quite literally. We've popularized the term leaky gut, but it's 654 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: much deeper than that. That that's happening at the individual 655 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: cell level. That's leaking the light, leaking water outside of itself. 656 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: And if you can't hold that crystalline water, you can't 657 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: hold the vitality, the energetics of the plants you're eating, 658 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: of the nutrition you're eating, and so you start to 659 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: fade with your energy levels, and with less energy, you 660 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: repair less well, and you start into this chronic disease 661 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: that happened between nineteen ninety two and two thousand and two, 662 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: chrontic fittigue, centers, chronic pain, everything mentioned. And so that 663 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: was your personal journey. And then you got put on 664 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: a supplement. What is that supplement? It's not actually a 665 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: traditional supplement. Most supplements are like pieces of the nutrition 666 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: cascade of a vitamin or a mineral or protein or 667 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: whatever it is. This is way way upstream of that. 668 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: This is not a nutrient. This is in fact the 669 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: small carbon molecules that form a redoc singling system, which 670 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: is a fancy word for a wireless communication network between 671 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: your cells. There's two ways cells communicate. One is through 672 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: hard fiber optic cables they can pass light energy back 673 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: and forth for communication. And the other one is through 674 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: this more ethereal wireless communication similar to your cell phone. 675 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: Your cell phone sits there all the time with a 676 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: complex transmitter in there. A transceiver really can receive and 677 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: transmit tiny little signals, but it has to be picked 678 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: up by a cell phone tier that will propagate that 679 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: information at distance. So I can talk to my grandmother. 680 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: For me to talk three thousand miles away, I need 681 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: lots and lots of connections between all those cell towers 682 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: to cascade through to carry that message. If you lose 683 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: one cell tower nearby, your cell phone selling doesn't work. 684 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: Nothing broke in the cell phone is an important, real reality. 685 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: It just can't reach the bigger system. And so the 686 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: disease of today is not actually a disease of a 687 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: single cell. It's a failure of that wireless communication network. 688 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: And so when a single cell gets injured, now it 689 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: can't send out the signal of hey, I'm injured, I 690 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: need repair, and it sits there and accumulates injury. And 691 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: without accumulation of injury, we reach cancer. Cancer is a 692 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: single human cell that has twenty thousand unrepaired genetic injuries 693 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: in it. And so this journey towards cancer is not 694 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: only a loss of electric light and light potential. It's 695 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: a loss of communication and the loss of that regenerative potential. 696 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: And so we now have a whole society of humans, 697 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: eight billion of us that are losing our light. We 698 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: are dimming, and we are losing our cell cell communication. 699 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: The cell phone towers are going down and we cannot repair. 700 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: But nature always prepares for the worst, and the antidote 701 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: it turns out to the death of communication, which is 702 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: happening at the human level is actually the microbiome, which 703 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: is a term that's now thrown around a lot, and 704 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: I think we all have a vague understanding. I think 705 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: that's like bacteria or something, but really what it's describing 706 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: as complex ecosystem. It's thousands, if not tens of thousands, 707 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: if not millions, of different species of bacteria, fungi, protozoa, 708 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: and human cells alike, all getting into this coherent communication network. 709 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: And so the microbiome is a description of a complex 710 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: landscape of biodiversity. And each of those microbes, bacteria, fungi, protozoa, 711 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: and the like are making another variant to these small 712 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: carbon snowflakes. And when those carbon snowflakes go into a 713 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: liquid state, into the aqueous state of your bloodstream, or 714 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: into that semi aquis state of the gael within your cells, 715 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: they're able to transmit information long distances. And so we 716 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: started extracting these from fossil soils before the last extinction 717 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: sixty million years ago. Again, thirty foot top soil levels 718 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: the healthiest microbiome the planet has ever seen. And so 719 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: we back into the fossil layer of soil and start 720 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: extracting that communication network. And the first time we put 721 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: this on human cells was twenty twelve, and I got 722 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: to see in my lab, which was rudimentary at the time, 723 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: some of the most ridiculous things happened in a petri 724 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: dish that I just didn't even believe possible. And it 725 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: was a journey from stop asking questions about the cancer cells. 726 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: We were talking and asking questions and studying too healthy biology. 727 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: Is are we witnessing health in a petri dish? Is 728 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: that's what's really happening because so many things we're fixing 729 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: and repairing at such a rate I've never imagined before. 730 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: And so it's been a very exciting journey to realize 731 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: that the Earth has coded into her deep fossil soils 732 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: a communication network that can help us out of our crisis, 733 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: that can help us beyond this isolation of the single 734 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: human cell, and ultimately the isolation of a single human species, 735 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: back into an interpretive dance with life itself. This vast 736 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: biology within us and around us as ready to re engage. 737 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: We just need those cell phone towers up and running, 738 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: but in our bodies, and that's what happened to you 739 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: when you started ion. 740 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you for explaining that. It's incredible how 741 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: little we know. I mean, when I'm listening to you, 742 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking to myself, I'm like, we we just 743 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: don't know enough, and individually and collectively as well. But 744 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: one of the things you talked about water. We talked 745 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: about a bit about microbiom which I want to get 746 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: back into, but a big area that you're focusing on 747 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: is soil regeneration. I think that's been something that's been 748 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: more recently talked about as opposed to something that we've 749 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: thrown around as you were saying about the microbiome. But 750 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: talk us through that very key element of the environment, 751 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: and again, if you can give us that sort of 752 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: synopsis version as you did with water, for us to 753 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: just understand the value of that, because I want people 754 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 2: to go and follow you and figure out through your 755 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: work the depths of everything we're discussing today. But I 756 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 2: think think at least for the benefit of this conversation, 757 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: if people could get a sense of just the breadth 758 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 2: of areas that we may know. Me considering a negatively 759 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: impacting my health, just as you said, I had no 760 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 2: idea when I was taking eye on what was really 761 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes. 762 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: I want to step in that first point for you too. 763 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: You made the statement that we don't know enough, and 764 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: that's how I felt most of my life as a doctor. 765 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: That's what led to seventeen years of higher education and 766 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: chasing that proverbial knowledge that i'd feel less afraid. I 767 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: feel like my whole world has just flipped on its 768 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: head in the last fifteen years to the point where 769 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: I now realize I know everything, but I don't know 770 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: it up in my head. I have access to information 771 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: throughout the cosmos through something deeper than my mind. And 772 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: that's again where you are acting from in your career, 773 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: and not just in your career, with your interaction with 774 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: humans in general. Your recent book on human relationships, not 775 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: just the relationship to human cells, to human beings. How 776 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: do we start to relate differently than we have in 777 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: the past, And that journey, I think is really exciting 778 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: to realize we actually know everything if we listen inside. 779 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: And this is the experience I'm sure you had in 780 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: those few years living as a monk and everything else. 781 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: When you spend more time in silence than you do talking, 782 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: you find you know so much and it's not something 783 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: up in your head. It's not an intelligence, it's a connection. 784 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: The real truth within you will be remembered rather than discovered, 785 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: and so that is an exciting journey into Let's take 786 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: a deep breath and realize nobody knows about crystal water, 787 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: or nobody knows about all this stuff, and that doesn't matter, 788 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: because ultimately it shows the layers that I can show 789 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: you in our laboratory will give you a glimpse of 790 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: beauty that you may not have been realizing it. But 791 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: how you get to that beauty is something you all 792 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: innately know. Your relationship to your water, to your food, 793 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: and ultimately to your soil and ultimately to your planet 794 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: is something that precedes human intellect, human consciousness. And so 795 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: we are now in a state of being where we 796 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: can actually realize, Okay, if everything existed, our capacity to 797 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: become human existed before the moment we were human, what 798 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: does that mean for our connection to the future. It's 799 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: already here, It's already connected. It's already manifesting through the 800 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: genome of the viruses, through the genetic potential of the 801 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: planet itself. It's already here. So not only do I 802 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: know myself right now, I have access to information of 803 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: the future because it's already coded for in biology that 804 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: hasn't quite yet appeared, but the information is already there. 805 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: In the same way I can remember the past because 806 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: it's coded for in my genes, that all the trauma, 807 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: all the remembrance, is all the experience of my ancestors. 808 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: It coded for in my genetic code. It's not in 809 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: my head, it's within every single cell of my body 810 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: resonating in a crystalline structure that we would call the 811 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: fourth phase of water. And we resonate in that liquid 812 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: crystal state to no self and then to express self 813 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: within that mature so deep breath for all of us 814 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: right now this part of the podcast of like, you 815 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 1: know what we're connected to all of it. We don't 816 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: need to know it in our heads because we already 817 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: have access to it. 818 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 2: Beautiful. 819 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, then the soil, So how does the soil come 820 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: into importance? A soil is a living life form, the 821 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: most complex living life form on the planet and in 822 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: life itself, as we understand it, We've never measured a 823 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: more beautiful system of than the soil. A teaspoon of 824 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: soil has more organisms than our humans on the entire 825 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: planet a teaspoon, and so that there's a complexity and 826 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: a brilliance and a beauty of that living ecosystem of 827 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: soil that dwarfs our current understanding of cell biology. We 828 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: can't actually measure in a petri dish that behavior eight 829 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: billion different species and a teaspoon of soil, because we 830 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: haven't developed good enough scientific measures and fast enough computers 831 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: to compute that much information so fast. So we tend 832 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: to study one species of bacteria and make a whole 833 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: bunch of conclusions that maybe it's bad for us. Well, 834 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: this whole concept of bad bacteria and good bacteria of 835 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: the probotics has really dissolved. Now we realize there is 836 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: no such thing as a good bacteria or a bad bacteria. 837 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: There's only a healthy ecosystem or a monoculture. Monoculture or 838 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: the death of biodiversity is the demise of life. A 839 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: push towards biodiversity is the matrix of health. And it 840 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: is unfortunate that over the last one hundred years we've 841 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: developed a deep economic and physical labor dependence on chemicals 842 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: for our farming and agriculture. These chemicals destroy the biodiversity 843 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: of every ounce of soil we put these chemicals on. 844 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: They function as antibiotics. Glyphsate, that most common of herbicides, 845 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: has been patent as an antibiotic, antifungal, antiparasite. It literally 846 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: demolishes life within the soil that it touches. And yet 847 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: this is what farmers are trained to use. We genetically 848 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: modified all of our seeds so that the food would 849 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: be sprayed repeatedly through its lifespan with that chemical, and 850 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 1: so round up ready seeds means poison tall in food system. 851 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: But when as a microbiome you are not prepared for 852 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: that poison, or as a consumer as an animal upstream, 853 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: you're not prepared for that injury, you become poisoned in 854 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: a way in which you are right not round up ready. 855 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: Neither was your microbiome in your gut, which is your 856 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,479 Speaker 1: soil system. And so all this focus on gut health 857 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: of the last ten years is simply a description of 858 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: soil is important. It's where life comes from. Life comes 859 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: out of biodiversity and relationship cooperation of biodiverse inputs. Regina 860 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: agriculture is a description of this revolution that is a 861 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: foot that we are participating in our nonprofit Farmer's Footprint 862 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: has been part of this effort to increase awareness and learning, 863 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: impact and innovation around the opportunity for farmers to shift 864 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: away from the belief that they're there to grow bushels 865 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: of corn and instead they're there to grow life within 866 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: their soil systems. And when every day they wake up 867 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: asking how can I create more life and diversity within 868 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: my soils instead of what can I kill today? Which 869 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: is what chemical farm is, which invasive weeds are now 870 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: attacking what you know, I ICU life support. Do I 871 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: need to put my farm on? Oh gosh, I'm out 872 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: of all these nutrients. So I need to intraveniously inject 873 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: all these nutrients with all these chemical inputs. It's an 874 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: ICU condition in the farm, just as is an ICU 875 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: condition in my hospital. And so this is a journey 876 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: really into realizing that we are doing ICU care because 877 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: we lost the matrix of life, which is biodversity, which 878 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: is the soil within your gut, soil beneath your feet. 879 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: And it's exciting to realize that we can participate this 880 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: at every level. If we walk out in your yard 881 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: right now you have an American lawn, and an American 882 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: lawn is the third largest crop grown in the United States. 883 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: There are forty million acres of lawn Kentucky blue crass 884 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: grown in this country. There's only one hundred and twenty 885 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: million acres of farmland forty million acres of grass. So 886 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: that it looks nice or whatever it is, we have 887 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: lots of reasons convenient in as mowed whatever. If we 888 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: were to take that forty million acres of lawn and 889 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: convert that to food force in our backyards, front yards 890 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: and the rest, we would never go hungry. In the 891 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: next seventy generations. There could not be hunger because we 892 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: would have so much food bursting from every yard. In 893 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: World War Two, we came close. We had lost the 894 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: food system, we had lost supply chains, we'd lost economics, 895 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: and so we were growing our food in our backyards again. 896 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: By nineteen forty five, Americans and the British in London 897 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: and unres were growing forty five percent of their food 898 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 1: system in their backyard victory gardens. We called them victory 899 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: gardens because the campaign was if you don't grow your 900 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: own food, we're all going to lose. The war if 901 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: you grow your own food, we will be victorious. Russians 902 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 1: long knew this. Russians had really built really complex systems 903 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: of what we call today peasant farming systems, where there 904 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: was a lot of redundancy and a lot of hyper 905 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: local marketplaces for food systems. Russians survived some of the 906 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: worst fast starvation events in history during World War two, 907 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: and they won the war against the Third Reich for 908 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: their resilience, and a lot of that resilience was their 909 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: connection in age, their proximity to their food system. Their 910 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: Germans ultimately failed because they had three thousand mile supply 911 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: chains and the food couldn't get to them. Today, the 912 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: United States of America is failing because we have three 913 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: thousand mile supply chains to the food that's not grown 914 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: here in this country anymore, because all of our soil 915 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: is dead. The cost of putting seed in the ground 916 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: now exceeds the cost that they can be sold for. 917 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: And so we have all these governed subsidies to keep 918 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: telling farmers to plant genetically modified crops and put them 919 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: under dollar expensive high intensity inputs, which is bankrupt between 920 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: basically every farm and they're all on life support economically 921 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: getting these subsidies that we call USDA Crop Insurance and 922 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: all these fake things boosting up dead soil, dead dirt. 923 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: And so if there is a belief of homeland security, 924 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: if there's really a belief of nations are capable of safety, 925 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: you have to begin with the soil. And presidents long 926 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: back I've recognized this. Franklin Delamo Roosevelt said the future 927 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: of every country is in their soil. And he said 928 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: that because we were in the dust Bowl, which was 929 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,760 Speaker 1: a devastation of our top soils due to poor farming practice, 930 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: and we were starving as a nation. My grandfather worked 931 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 1: in the White House with the Roosevelts, and he was 932 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: the head of Philansbury and the New Deal in getting 933 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: these soup kitchens rebuilt, and so traveling around with Elinori 934 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 1: Roosevelt serving suit lines that were miles long of people 935 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: starving in this country because they're top soil to died. 936 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 1: So twice in a single century we've destroyed our top 937 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: soils through poor understanding of biology originally and now a 938 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: codependence on chemical farming and antibiotics as a mechanism for 939 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: growing food, and so for that we have three thousand 940 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: mile supply chains and every city has now become a 941 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: really vulnerable island. And we saw that in the pandemic. 942 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: Suddenly the grocery store shelves were empty because the ships 943 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: couldn't get into the ports, the trucks had stopped driving, 944 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: and there was no food on shelves. Is a very 945 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: desperate situation we're in the United States, but unfortunately we 946 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: have exported that behavior of food systems to the entire 947 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: developed world. London is now as vulnerable as the United States, 948 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: and the rest. Paris is vulnerable. Los Angeles, where we 949 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: sit today, has a three day food supply to millions 950 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: and millions of people, and so if an earthquake happens 951 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: and disrupts the one highway system that comes into Los Angeles, 952 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: we will lose our food supply in three days, and 953 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: we will have a massive riot and humanitarian crisis on 954 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: our hands. We are an island unto ourselves, and our 955 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: food is three thousand miles away and we're not realizing it. Instead, 956 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: we have forty million acres of grass that we can't eat, 957 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: and we're spraying that with roundup in our backyards to 958 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: kill the few dandelions, which are the only edible and 959 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: anti cancer compound that's in your backyard right now. And 960 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: so we need to start realizing we need to eat 961 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 1: that dandalion green, not the dandeline flower. Even before it flowers. 962 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: You're eating that green, and you're getting the nutrients, and 963 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: you're getting life back in and you go beyond that 964 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: and you say, let's get some beats and turnips and 965 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: all the rest. Let's get some other root vegetables in there, 966 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: and suddenly your backyard could turn into a bounty of 967 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: safety for your family, for your community and the rest. 968 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: And so this is the paradigm shift that Farmer's Footprint 969 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: is really working on, is can we realize how vulnerable 970 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: we've made ourselves as individuals, not just at the biological 971 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: level level of our chronic disease, but also the societal 972 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: level as we have divorced ourselves from soil. 973 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 2: Is there any way I mean hearing that, is there 974 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 2: any way to have an optimal life still eating from 975 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: a supermarket like the idea that you know, I'm assuming 976 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: that the majority of people listening are not going to 977 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 2: rush to start growing something in their backyard, not that 978 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 2: they should not, and not that we're not encouraging it. 979 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 2: I think it's incredible when people can. But again, going 980 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: back to that conditioning habit formation, all the challenges that 981 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 2: come with that, what can we eat or how do 982 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: we eat in order to protect ourselves? 983 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: Well, we learned it in space. During the pandemic. You 984 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: might remember there was a moment where we every place 985 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: in the country sold out of seeds and so we 986 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: started growing again. And we're seeing a very exciting movement 987 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: in young people right now. A lot of people are 988 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,959 Speaker 1: leaving the cities to go start farming. They've never farmed before, 989 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: they have absolutely no idea, but they have this deep 990 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: knowingness inside of them that I'm supposed to get not 991 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: just to a farm, but I'm supposed to build community 992 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 1: around that farm. So I'm going to take me and 993 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: my best ten friends and we're going to move out 994 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: into the country and we're going to start farming. And 995 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: the regenera agricultural movement has been led mostly by women 996 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: and mostly by youth in this country, and so there 997 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: is a real movement not just here but now as 998 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: we've spawned farmers footprint in the UK, farmers footprint in Australia, 999 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: the Western world is starting to reimagine its relationship to 1000 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: food and soil. And it's really the women and the 1001 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: youth that are finding this path forward for us. And 1002 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: it's because I think deep inside of that feminine archetype 1003 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: that we all have access to male female arrest. That 1004 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: femine archetype is about nurture and it is about connection, 1005 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: and that's ultimately what I believe the regenda of agriculture 1006 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: movement is. In one word, it is a reconnect. Reconnect 1007 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: to nature and there's many ways to do it, and 1008 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 1: there's not a prescription for here's a regenitive farm. It's 1009 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,919 Speaker 1: about listening into your nature, listening into the reality that's 1010 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: trying to express itself on that piece of land, and 1011 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: then being in support of that rather than trying to 1012 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: micromanage that thing. And so that's very much a femine 1013 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 1: archetype we can all connect to, is how do we 1014 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: let life start coming into our lives in a biodverse fashion. 1015 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily have to happen, just that the food 1016 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: and the soil can happen with your community and the 1017 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: inputs you're taking on. If your input every day is 1018 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: CNN or Fox News, you're gonna become a monocrop almost immediately. 1019 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose all biodiversity of information. You're gonna become 1020 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: very monotonous in your belief systems. You're going to be 1021 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: very easy to push into a small box of fear, 1022 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: gill in shame. If you go out and nature and 1023 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: spend hours a day hiking and walking through nature and 1024 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: smelling real soil and touching ferns and being in awe 1025 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: of the wildflower and bathing in a waterfall, you can't 1026 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: be put in the same box because you are seeing 1027 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: the complexity and beauty of nature that predated our existence, 1028 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: let alone the existence of a television or a news 1029 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: channel or whatever it is. And so the excitement is 1030 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: for me, as far as way as this might sound 1031 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: to you right now, to be growing your own food 1032 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: all this time, you're just a few seconds away from 1033 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: your introduction to that universe. Get out to a park, 1034 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: preet a park, even lay down in somebody's yard that 1035 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: has a tree. If you lay down on your back 1036 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: and look up through the branches of a tree at 1037 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 1: a blue sky that has clouds passing over, your brain 1038 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: will start to rewire just with that light pattern that's 1039 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 1: coming through that tree, because in that it's like looking 1040 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: into a fire. If you can't do the tree, stare 1041 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: into a fire at night. If you can't do a fire, 1042 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: stare into a candle. Because in the frequencies of those 1043 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: inputs into our neurology, we put in information in the 1044 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: form of storytelling. A recent study demonstrated that if we 1045 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: look down at a fire, a fireplace between us here, 1046 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: If we look down at a fire around a campfire, 1047 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: the like all the stem cells in our bodies turn on. 1048 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: They tried to figure out, like, how is how are 1049 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: stem cells being activated by the fire, and turned out 1050 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: that it had to do with not just the fire 1051 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: and its presence, but our eye trajectory too. If I 1052 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: looked past the fire and didn't look into the fire, 1053 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 1: my stem cells didn't turn on. But if I dropped 1054 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: my gaze away from the horizon and looked down at 1055 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,760 Speaker 1: the fire, my stem cells turn on. And I believe 1056 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 1: it a story of instead of chasing the future on 1057 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: the horizon, we need to look down into the energy 1058 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 1: that is between us, this fire that sits between us. 1059 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: We look down for a moment become present instead of 1060 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: future looking to the horizon. We've become present enough to 1061 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: sit in stillness and watch that vibrational experience of a 1062 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: red coal glowing and pulsing in the night. There's something 1063 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: in that that remembers ourselves. And it was around those 1064 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: fires that we sang our first songs, danced our first dances, 1065 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: and told our first stories as humanity. And that runs 1066 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: all the way to dead Today. The place I have 1067 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: felt as an earth lean for the first time in 1068 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: my half a century, it's in the African bush around fire, 1069 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: listening to African drums, hearing the vibration of voices and 1070 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: tongues that I have forgotten existed, and remembering that I 1071 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: find my humanity again. I realize I am from here, 1072 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: I do belong here, and I am of this place 1073 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: that is remembered around a fire. Looking down and so 1074 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: gather around a candle or a fire, whatever it is. 1075 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: It start to tell stories again of things remembered or 1076 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 1: of yesterday if you need to, but start telling story 1077 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: around flame, and that is maybe your journey back into 1078 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 1: growing a piece of food yourself in your backyard. There's 1079 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 1: going to be a deep remembrance of you. Of This 1080 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: is what peace feels like, This is what that pause does. 1081 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: Staring into the flame you can find in the silence 1082 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: necessary to find that guiding sense within you that we 1083 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: call intuition, that guiding sense that you have followed in 1084 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: your career to bring you to the success you've had. 1085 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 1: And so we all have that immediately available before we've 1086 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: even grown in our own food, before we've grown anything. 1087 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: All of that is intact. And I have again and 1088 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: again seen people on the deathbed. As a hospice doctor, 1089 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: I was admitting eighty patients a week to die. So 1090 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of things that we call death. 1091 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: And even when biology is completely failing and they have 1092 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: a few heartbeat beads left, a few breaths yet to take, 1093 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: they can get into that fire moment and they are 1094 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: crossing the veil on their back again. They're crossing the 1095 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: veil and they're coming back. And then they open their eyes. 1096 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: And it happens so so often. Some of you who's 1097 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 1: been kind of in this comatose milieu of barely here, 1098 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: suddenly comes crystal clear, looks you in the face and 1099 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: says a deep truth that may or may not make 1100 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: sense as you the receiver, but in saying it, you 1101 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: can see them reconnect to their original self and they are 1102 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: more true to themselves in that moment of death than 1103 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: they ever were in their state of living, in a 1104 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: state of disconnect. And so it doesn't matter how close 1105 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: you are to death. That firelight is burning inside of you, 1106 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: if not in front of you, and in the silence 1107 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: in front of that fire, you can remember why you 1108 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: came here and why you did what you did. On 1109 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: purpose is your show, and it turns out purposes not 1110 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: outside of you. It's not something to go find, it's 1111 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: not something to go discover. That purpose is you being you, 1112 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: that original math that vibrates to animate your biology into 1113 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: a living life form for a moment that we would 1114 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: call a human life span. You're vibrating there, and the 1115 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: purpose is to be you in this form, to take 1116 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: in the light energy of the cosmos, of the food 1117 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 1: you eat, and express it in vitality within that liquid 1118 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: crystal of your body, to vibrate. It's the vibration that 1119 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: makes you alive. And that vibration can be shaped by 1120 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts, your beliefs, the words you carry, and the 1121 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: feelings that you have towards one another. And so this 1122 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: is our moment right now, as we can burn bright 1123 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: at our death moment on our deathbed, sixty years, eighty 1124 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: years left, however long is there on our march into 1125 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: that we can rebirth now, to come off of hospice 1126 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: and become a new species, become a new humanity, become 1127 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: a new expression as we lose fear, guilt and shame 1128 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: because we look past the death that we all fear 1129 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: and realize that life is abundant, and it's infinite, and 1130 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: it's always in its next transformation, next expression, which is 1131 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 1: always chasing more beauty and more intelligence than the rest. 1132 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: And so we sit here around a fire now talking 1133 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: about the demise of all things to realize the birth 1134 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: of everything. 1135 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: I find your response is so refreshing. There is such 1136 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 2: a rejuvenation and rebirth hearing the ideas that you're sharing 1137 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 2: with the world, because I can definitely personally attest to 1138 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,439 Speaker 2: so many of the things that you're mentioning, whether it's 1139 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 2: lying down under the tree looking through the branches, whether 1140 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 2: it's deeply excavating and looking at the roots of a plant, 1141 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 2: whether it's looking out into the sky or cloud gazing, 1142 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 2: which is probably one of my favorite things to do, 1143 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 2: which is why I live where I live, or whether 1144 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 2: it may be just feeling reconnected. One of my favorite 1145 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 2: things was when my wife and I went to Hawaii 1146 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 2: a few years ago, and we fell in love with 1147 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 2: it because we felt the people there had their own 1148 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: language for a culture that we've learned differently. So having 1149 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 2: studied the Vaders, the worship of the Sun and the 1150 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 2: moon as such big parts of the Vaders, and when 1151 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 2: we were in Hawaii, we would go out on a 1152 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,959 Speaker 2: kayak every morning and pay our respects to the Sun, 1153 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 2: and it always felt beautiful to do it in the 1154 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Hawaiian culture and through their traditions, and I remembered we 1155 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 2: walked around where they were showing us and the writings 1156 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 2: and the stories on their rock and there was this 1157 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 2: one particular one which repeated itself, which was a expanding circle. 1158 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 2: And it was said that whenever a child is born 1159 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 2: in Hawaii, it's umbilical cord is placed on the earth 1160 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 2: and a circle is drawn around it in that very spot, 1161 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 2: so they can always come back to that and remember 1162 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 2: that they're always connected to the earth and that's what 1163 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 2: they belong. It's incredible how these very simple ideas can 1164 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 2: be so sacred and so powerful. As you said, internally, 1165 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 2: you feel these things don't necessarily make sense in your head, 1166 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:40,479 Speaker 2: or you can't compute them in a logical reasoning point 1167 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 2: of view, but you can feel them. Even when we 1168 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 2: were there, you could see it and you could feel it. 1169 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 2: You mentioned twice there, you mentioned at the beginning breath 1170 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 2: as one of the elements. You then mentioned it again 1171 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 2: when people in their last breath. Could you walk us 1172 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 2: through the same kind of refreshing insight on breath. 1173 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,439 Speaker 1: Mechanism of breathing is the allowance to create new life. 1174 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 1: And we exhale so that we can breathe back in. 1175 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: And if you've ever been told suddenly in an audience, 1176 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: like okay, everybody, inhale, it's very hard to inhale because 1177 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 1: they didn't tell you to exhale, And so to really 1178 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 1: take a good inhalation, you've got to tell the whole audience, 1179 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 1: all right, everybody, exhale, blow it all out, blow it 1180 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: all out, blown out. Now you can inhale, and in 1181 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: that exhalation, you're basically exchanging the life force with the 1182 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: environment around you. When I exhale, I push out millions 1183 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: of different little tiny variants of my genetics through something 1184 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: called micro rna. It's basically my version of expressing a 1185 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: viral message to the world of here's who I am 1186 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: right now, here's what I'm expressing genetically, here's what's happening. 1187 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: So I have a genetic signal that I breathe out, 1188 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: and I have a new potential for life that I 1189 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: breathe out in the form of carbon dioxide that I 1190 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: just derived from all the glucose and fatty acids that 1191 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm deriving all of that sunlight from. So I'm releasing 1192 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: sunlight and then I give back the CO two to 1193 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: the atmosphere so I can breathe it back in. And 1194 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: turns out I need CO two exchange. I need to 1195 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: breathe it as much as they need to exhale it, 1196 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: because it's really the pulse of life, and it's the 1197 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: way in which I use oxygen at the sider level. 1198 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 1: So I can't use oxygen unless I've got CO two. 1199 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: So I breathe out a big gift of CO two 1200 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: in the atmosphere gives me back CO two in a 1201 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: ratio that allows me to use aucygen more effectively. And 1202 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: so CO two is really the coursing bloodstream of life itself. 1203 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 1: It's the currency of life, and so that currency of 1204 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: energy is pulsing with every breath, and when I start 1205 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: to develop an addiction to breathing, I don't take that 1206 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: deep breath, and instead I have all these short little 1207 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 1: breasts that I take all the time because I'm in 1208 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: a fight or flight state, and I don't slow that 1209 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: respiration down. My neurology is reading all the time panic 1210 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: and so in the same way that we're addicted to 1211 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: water that can ever turn into a liquid crystal, and 1212 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: therefore we're always thirsty. In the same way, I always 1213 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: taking all sixteen to twenty breaths a minute because I'm 1214 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: afraid I'm going to run out of air because I 1215 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 1: haven't been taught to actually breathe, And so the planet 1216 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 1: is now doing this as well as humans. The planet 1217 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 1: can't take a deep breath right now because its lungs 1218 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: are the soil system. We've now killed ninety seven percent 1219 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: of the soil systems the planet. Ninety seven percent of 1220 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 1: arable soils on the planet are now depleted, are severely 1221 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: deproleted of their metabols and their ability to breathe. In 1222 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: an ideal state, this planet breathes in a deep breath 1223 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: at night and then exhales in the morning, and you 1224 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: can watch this happen, especially in humid areas. I live 1225 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 1: in Virginia and along the Blue Ridge Mountains at night, 1226 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: if you stand up high on the mountains, you get 1227 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 1: to see that the forests of Virginia breathe in and 1228 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: these it looks like banks of clouds, suddenly gets sucked 1229 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: down onto the surface of the trees, and then down 1230 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: into the canopy and down into the earth. And so 1231 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: the trees are returning the breath to the soil and 1232 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 1: with it all the water. In the morning it exhales, 1233 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 1: and all that water or appears on the surface as dew, 1234 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 1: on the grass and in the canopy and everywhere. Well, 1235 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: that de is now very cold because it was breathed 1236 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: out by a deep geothermal cooling thing that we call 1237 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: the planet. The warming of the planet is not being 1238 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: caused by CO two or greenhouse gases. We've been given 1239 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 1: a very half truth by our political systems that with 1240 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Al Gore and the rest have said CO two is 1241 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: our crisis. We've now pledged forty trillion dollars by twenty 1242 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: fifty to suck CO two oul asim atmosphere and all 1243 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,439 Speaker 1: that because we've been told it's the problem, but in fact, 1244 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,439 Speaker 1: whether it's a dying patient of the bedside you can 1245 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: no longer breathe, or me addicted to my short breathing, 1246 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: or the planet that's lost its lungs. And now, as emphasema, 1247 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,919 Speaker 1: CO two starts rising the atmosphere and the heat goes 1248 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 1: up because we're not bringing that into the earth and 1249 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 1: out of the earth, into the earth, out of the 1250 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Earth on a daily basis to cool the planet. We 1251 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: lost the lungs. Therefore we've lost the exchange of life 1252 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: through CO two and we lost the geothermal cooling that 1253 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: comes with breath. And so the plant it has a fever, 1254 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: not for CO two, but for a lack of breath. 1255 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: And so this is the transit that we need to 1256 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: do as a planetary participant, is we need to be 1257 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 1: part of the solution. We need to allow the Earth 1258 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: to breathe again. I find it interesting that, you know, 1259 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: we always find the micro story in the macrocosm, and 1260 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: you find it fractally, which means at every single level 1261 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: of expression of nature you'll find the same truth. And 1262 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 1: here we were in the middle of the pandemic where 1263 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: people were going blue because the oxygen could not exchange 1264 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: from their blood cells into their cells, perhaps in part 1265 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 1: due to a virus, but deeper than that, we had 1266 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: covered our planet in the highest levels of carbon contamination 1267 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 1: in history because of the largest fires that had raged 1268 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 1: for the year and a half before the pandemic, and 1269 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: then all the way through the pandemic, we had the 1270 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: largest fires all over the world that had ever happened. 1271 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: So for all the poisoning in the atmosphere, we had 1272 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: cyanide in the air levels unprecedented. We were breathing in sinie, 1273 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: which causes this respiratory failure. We were ascribing it again 1274 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 1: just to the virus. I think it was a lot 1275 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 1: of different factors happening at that time. We were losing 1276 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: our ability to breathe. Meanwhile, the planet's warming up, warming up, 1277 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 1: warming up, and coot's going up in the atmosphere. We 1278 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: can't breathe, the planet can't breathe, We couldn't breathe a species. 1279 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: And then we get this extraordinarily tragic moment where we 1280 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: watch a police officer with his knee on the neck 1281 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: of an African American man and who dies in the 1282 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: streets screaming, I cannot breathe. At every one of those 1283 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: fractal levels, we got to witness the suffocation of life, 1284 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: and it was suffocating in that moment with a police 1285 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: officers too afraid to move, and maybe angry, maybe lots 1286 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 1: of other negative emotions in there, but ultimately it's fear 1287 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 1: of death, fear of different, being different, fear of everything 1288 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: other than self. So that knee stays on. And right 1289 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: now we have our proverbial knee on the neck of 1290 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: this planet. We are not letting this planet breathe because 1291 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: we're afraid we might go hungry. So we're waiting for 1292 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 1: technology to save us. So we have more and more 1293 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: genetic technologies. We have robots trying to mind food out 1294 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 1: of the earth. We're waiting for more and more technology, 1295 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: and we just will not let the knee off the 1296 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: neck of the planet because we're afraid she won't provide 1297 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 1: for us. We need to let the knee up. We 1298 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 1: need to be confident that we are one species, that 1299 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: is the compilation of hundreds of thousands of species that 1300 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: has made life possible. We need to start to breathe together. 1301 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 1: We need to move to a point where there is 1302 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 1: grace rather than fear, where there is joy rather than guilt, 1303 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,599 Speaker 1: there is love rather than shame. And to get there, 1304 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 1: we're going to have to trust that we are supposed 1305 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,759 Speaker 1: to be here. We are not the cancer of the planet. 1306 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: We are the potential energy of the planet. We are 1307 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: the highest expression that the planet has made so far, 1308 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 1: and we can stay to play if we choose. And 1309 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 1: so we need to take the neck off the planet. 1310 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: We need to take the knee off the neck of 1311 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: the planet, take the knee off the neck of one another, 1312 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 1: and start to move in a state of abundance. And 1313 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: we will do this as we find those quiet spies 1314 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 1: around the flame, breathe slower, breathe deeper, as individuals, as 1315 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 1: a planet, and in so doing start to feel the future. 1316 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 1: And this is the mystery that we see baking all 1317 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 1: over the world. I'm very gifted in my career right 1318 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: now that i get to travel all over the place 1319 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: all the time. And so in the more than one 1320 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: and a half million miles I've flown over the last 1321 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: ten years, I've gotten to meet nearly every people group 1322 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 1: on the planet. And I've spent time in so many 1323 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 1: continents over the last couple of years, and for all 1324 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 1: of the fear and guilt and shame that we just 1325 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: exercise as a plan that I have never seen more optimism, 1326 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 1: more excitement, more of that bubbling energy of oh my gosh, 1327 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,839 Speaker 1: it's about to arrive. We are about to arrive. Something 1328 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 1: is about to happen. This is so exciting to be 1329 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: alive right now. I hear that all the time. It's 1330 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 1: so exciting to be alive right now. So what is 1331 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,679 Speaker 1: the light that's shining so bright in humanity as our 1332 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: biologic light dims. I think it's the original math. I 1333 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: think it's the soul. The energy that animates life is 1334 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: burning bright right now because it is not diminished by 1335 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: the energies that it was putting into the biologic expression 1336 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 1: of humanity. It is burning brighter because it says, look 1337 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 1: beyond the flesh to find the truth, and in that 1338 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 1: energy field you will find the new life that will 1339 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 1: code for your new future. And so we have to 1340 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 1: get to that hospice moment. We have to let the 1341 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 1: lights almost die out so we can cross the veil 1342 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 1: and see the truth and then come back and change everything. 1343 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,680 Speaker 2: Incredible, Doctor Zach Bush. If anyone's listening right now and 1344 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 2: they want to find that optimism. Maybe join your eight 1345 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,679 Speaker 2: day program to learn more about the solution aspect of 1346 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 2: everything you've been sharing today. Where should they go? How 1347 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 2: can they connect with you and connect with your work? 1348 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: The easiest place for all the work is Zachbush MD 1349 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 1: dot com. The Journey of Intrinsichealth dot com is the 1350 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: eight week program. The Intelligence of Nature dot com is 1351 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,240 Speaker 1: all of the deep soil science and the supplements and 1352 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 1: everything else that have come out of that soil science 1353 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,800 Speaker 1: and the study of life state and the solutions to it. 1354 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 1: There's an opportunity for you guys to engage also just 1355 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 1: in community with us, because it's one thing to take 1356 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 1: a supplement or take a class, but ultimately, if we 1357 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: don't come into connected community, we're not going to create 1358 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 1: that future that we have. And so there's an opportunity 1359 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: for you to engage in the community platforms that we've 1360 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 1: been creating across many of these products, going deeper than 1361 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 1: the product to really start to create the solutions for 1362 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: the future that we can all feel is already here. 1363 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: And that's my greatest excitement is watching people come together. 1364 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: There's something called quorum sensing that I find really beautiful. 1365 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 1: When you get enough biodiversity into a living environment. Suddenly 1366 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing does something more intelligent than any constituent 1367 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 1: can do. And so we need to do a quorum 1368 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: sensing moment as not just humanity, but as a planet. 1369 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 1: And so we need to connect to our ecosystems and 1370 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 1: diversity and cultures and for their diversity, the arts and 1371 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: their diversity, the dance and the storytelling and the flames 1372 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 1: and a million different iterations. Then we need to bring 1373 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: that in together for a very bright flame to burn 1374 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: and for us to connect to that quorum sensing moment 1375 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,600 Speaker 1: where we do quantum intelligence not from the mind, but 1376 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 1: from that knowingness within you community connect that we've we 1377 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 1: hope to meet you. 1378 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Thank you so much. I hope that everyone 1379 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 2: has been listening and watching. I hope you go and 1380 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,600 Speaker 2: check it out. And Zach, we end every episode of 1381 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 2: On Purpose with a final five or a fast five, 1382 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 2: and these questions have to be answered in one word 1383 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,960 Speaker 2: to one sentence maximum, And Zach Bush, these are your 1384 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 2: final fives. So the first is, what is the best 1385 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 2: advice you've ever heard, given or received? 1386 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 1: Slow down? 1387 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 2: What is the worst advice you've ever heard or received? 1388 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 1: Stop? 1389 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:37,200 Speaker 2: Moving, Stop moving? Question number three, what's something that you 1390 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 2: used to value that you no longer value anymore? 1391 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 1: Marriage? 1392 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,799 Speaker 2: Interesting? In what sense? 1393 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: You said? One word? 1394 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I'm digressing. 1395 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 1: It was my most important value system through most of 1396 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: my life. And it's not to say that marriage is 1397 01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 1: not important on our human journey, but it was the 1398 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 1: course of miracles that really unveiled what was happening in 1399 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 1: my effort towards marriage. And I enjoyed my marriage at 1400 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,759 Speaker 1: twenty year marriage with my wife and two amazing kids. 1401 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 1: And then she found a new path, and there was 1402 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,679 Speaker 1: a decision whether to see that as a failure or 1403 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 1: to actually, for the first time in our twenty years together, 1404 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: practiced the unpart of unconditional love. And I realized during 1405 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: our journey towards divorce, when I realized that she was 1406 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 1: definitely going to take this other pass, it was a 1407 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 1: realization of I really do love this person, and I'm 1408 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,720 Speaker 1: sitting here telling her how much I love her, and 1409 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 1: therefore she shouldn't leave me. Oh my gosh, what is that? 1410 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,840 Speaker 1: That is the deepest condition I could possibly I love you, 1411 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 1: but only if you stay right next to me, and 1412 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 1: I own this thing, and so that was my journey 1413 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,879 Speaker 1: personally and to deep heartbreak that led to the deepest 1414 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: joy that a person cann't have. Is the exercise of 1415 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 1: unconditional love. And I certainly I didn't do it perfectly. 1416 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 1: I didn't do it well, But my gosh, did I 1417 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 1: live differently after that moment where I realized I can 1418 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,839 Speaker 1: love her on this path that she knows she's chosen. 1419 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 1: And we've gotten to watch both of us bloom into 1420 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,599 Speaker 1: people we could have never become in that marriage because 1421 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 1: it was a box that was an agreement of no change. 1422 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,640 Speaker 1: And as we back up, I think we're going to 1423 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 1: realize that we put love and relationship into a box 1424 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 1: of ownership just in the last couple hundred years. It 1425 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,720 Speaker 1: never existed before. We developed this ownership model so we 1426 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 1: could pass wealth from generation to generation, not realizing when 1427 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: we built the box, we would crush love, which is 1428 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 1: ultimately the capacity to see beauty in another. And if 1429 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,839 Speaker 1: for a moment you think you can own another's beauty, 1430 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 1: you have stolen it from them ultimately, and they will 1431 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: become miserable and you will forget why you fell in 1432 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: love with them because you can't see their beauty anymore. 1433 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: And so in a radical way. We're going to have 1434 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: to release each other from the boxes we put each 1435 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 1: other in. It doesn't mean the end of relationship is 1436 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 1: probably the birth of human relationship. Maybe for the time, 1437 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,960 Speaker 1: but certainly in recent modern times. We're going to have 1438 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: to release ourselves from the box and we have to 1439 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 1: do partnership relationships in much, much radically different ways. And 1440 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: they're going to have to come out of the fear 1441 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: of not having enough love and start to come from 1442 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,560 Speaker 1: an abundance model where everything. 1443 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 2: Is love, beautiful. Thank you for sharing that, thank you 1444 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 2: for opening up, and that's really really beautiful to hear. 1445 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad. I asked us to go off piece to 1446 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 2: orr a question of before, what's something you're trying to 1447 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,759 Speaker 2: learn right now? Are skilled? 1448 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 1: You're trying to learn beauty the witness of beauty. 1449 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,920 Speaker 2: And the fifth and final question is if you could 1450 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 2: create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, 1451 01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 2: what would it be? 1452 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 1: Biodiversity? 1453 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 2: Could you expand so that we can contextualize it. 1454 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 1: There's a known phenomenon of blue zones around the planet 1455 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 1: where people tend to live a past one hundred years, 1456 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,759 Speaker 1: and so here we are on the Number one Health podcast, 1457 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,600 Speaker 1: in the world what makes people live longer than one 1458 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 1: hundred years? And we've tried to boil it down to nutrition, 1459 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,479 Speaker 1: and we found that almost everyone to make completely differently, 1460 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 1: and some of them made only cooked food, only meat, 1461 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 1: only veggies, the whole thing only raw. We saw it all. 1462 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 1: In the end, what we have found is that those 1463 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: that will live on our years live in a culture 1464 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 1: and communities that hold at their highest value the opportunity 1465 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,879 Speaker 1: for new connection to buy a diverse ideas and peoples. 1466 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 1: And this was taught to me by a couple out 1467 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,959 Speaker 1: of Ikorea, Greece, a Grecian island that is an incredible 1468 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: blue zone there, and they came and prepared a traditional 1469 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 1: five course Greek meal for a group of us, and 1470 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 1: I gave this toast at the end that said, you know, 1471 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 1: this is the micro biome being nourished, and we'll live forever. 1472 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 1: We'll be like a blue zone because the nourishment is 1473 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: so to eat, the nutrients were so rich, it was 1474 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 1: all from so this beautiful thing. I was crying. Everybody's crying. 1475 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: Is a beautiful toast. And then guy from Akorea stands 1476 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,920 Speaker 1: up and says, doctor, that was very interesting, but you're 1477 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: completely wrong, and he said that the only reason we 1478 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 1: live past one hundred years is not for what we eat, 1479 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 1: but is because every night there's a chair set at 1480 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,200 Speaker 1: our table, hoping that somebody we don't know shows up 1481 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: and shares that meal with us. In Korea, we never 1482 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 1: ask each other what did you eat last night? We 1483 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,920 Speaker 1: always ask who did you eat with last night? And 1484 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 1: that's what we're missing from society today. And so when 1485 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 1: we talk about biodiversity, it's certainly true at the soil level. 1486 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 1: If we don't start living for the soil beneath our 1487 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 1: feet and enriching that with every action we take, whether 1488 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 1: it be a political move, a social move, and industrial move, 1489 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 1: economic move, if it's not supporting the soil, we would 1490 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,680 Speaker 1: destroy ourselves in the same way. If we continue to 1491 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,760 Speaker 1: listen in the echo chamber of our minds and those 1492 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 1: people we are married to, and we create these nuclear families, 1493 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 1: and we listen to the same box every day, whether 1494 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 1: it be a TV or our own brain, we will 1495 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 1: diminish our biodiverse ideas and our biodiverse capacity for creativity, 1496 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 1: and therefore we will lose the opportunity to stay in play. 1497 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 2: Doctor Zach Bush, thank you for such a fascinating and 1498 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,759 Speaker 2: unique conversation, one that was full of refreshing insights and ideas. 1499 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 2: And I'm hoping to everyone who's listening and watching, wherever 1500 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 2: you are in the world, I hope that you will 1501 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 2: go and follow doctor Zach Bush learn more about his 1502 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 2: incredible work, to tag us both and share your insights, 1503 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 2: your takeaways, the nuggets that stood out to you. Maybe 1504 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 2: there were messages or words that are ones that you're 1505 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 2: going to hold on to and it's going to shift 1506 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 2: the way that you practice your health and wellness routines 1507 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 2: and regimes. And so if you've been listening on watching, 1508 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 2: make sure you tag us and share what you learned 1509 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 2: and what you gained from this episode. And doctor Zach Burst, 1510 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,760 Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time, your energy, your 1511 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,960 Speaker 2: presence and everything that you've shared with us today. Thank 1512 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:28,519 Speaker 2: you so much. 1513 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 1: Honored be heard and seen by you. 1514 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,759 Speaker 2: Very grateful. Thank you. If you love this episode, you'll 1515 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 2: enjoy my interview with doctor Daniel Ahman on how to 1516 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,839 Speaker 2: change your life by changing your brain. If we want 1517 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,559 Speaker 2: a healthy mind, it actually starts with a healthy brain. 1518 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 2: You know, I've had the blessing or the curse to 1519 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 2: scam 1520 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:54,120 Speaker 1: Over a thousand convicted felons and over one hundred murderers, 1521 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,440 Speaker 1: and their brains are very damaged.