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Speaker 1: Industry JJ. Things today kind of ramped up in terms

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Speaker 1: of not necessarily intensity, but the chippiness was There some

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Speaker 1: skirmishes today that we didn't see yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's to be expected on day two of a

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter who the teams are either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it always starts in special teams. It always

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Speaker 3: starts in special teams because that's when you get the

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Speaker 3: guys who are really fighting for roster spots, making repression,

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Speaker 3: make it yeah, and you try, yeah, yeah, but you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't want to get reckless out there. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, a couple of skirmishes today, but nothing that

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Speaker 3: I think escalated beyond you know, norm pushing and shoving it. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: very normal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, coming up on tonight's show, you know

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Speaker 1: them of him number six, he's making plays. He went

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Speaker 1: back home to a degree last Saturday in Buffalo five

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Speaker 1: years with the Buffalo Bills, but now he's an Indianapolis cult.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie is going to join us here in the

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Speaker 1: podcast in just a second. He sat down with Casey

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Speaker 1: Valier and Jeffrey Gorman for a really good conversation, So

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Speaker 1: that's coming up in just a bit. But Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 1: last night, I think he got a lesson in taking

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Speaker 1: what the defense gives you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, last night, and you know.

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Speaker 1: He had that one moment in the seven on seven

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Speaker 1: have was intercepted by one of the safeties. And we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, you saw more of the

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Speaker 3: taken what was their plays? And I think that was

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Speaker 3: That's what he became known for here in Indianapolis, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I think you saw Anthony Richardson make some good

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Speaker 1: If you're making a highlight reel of Camp tonight, it'd

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Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm jotting down notes on my notebook

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Speaker 2: It's JJ stangob it's right there.

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Speaker 1: This is the Colts training camp daily here on the

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Speaker 1: Colts Audio Network. Before practice started, unfortunately, the Colts suffered

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Speaker 1: a bit of bad news. Ashton Doolan suffered that torn

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Speaker 1: joint practices between the Colts and the Bears, and just awful.

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Speaker 1: Miss miss five games last year between a foot injury

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Speaker 1: and a concussion. So in a roster move, the Colts

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Speaker 1: the off season, undrafted free agent had a Butler spent

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Speaker 1: that's a big blow for the Colts because of his

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Speaker 2: What does this do to cloudy up.

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Speaker 1: The depth of the Colts wide receivers the remainder of camp,

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Speaker 1: The rest of that group doesn't play as nearly as

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Speaker 3: Right, exactly. That's kind of the key here is you

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Speaker 3: going to lead to some really interesting roster discussions with

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Speaker 1: Playing more special teams last year, right with the YEP,

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Speaker 3: you know, Chris Ballard always says, you're you are constantly

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Speaker 3: this lead the Colts to bring in someone maybe on

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Speaker 3: So that that was good to see, you know, depth wise,

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Speaker 1: As we said, Isaiah McKenzie coming up in just a

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Speaker 1: What kind of year do you think is in store

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Speaker 4: So I love this, mate.

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Speaker 3: I've been talking about this for months now that Isaiah

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Speaker 3: when you think about you've got Pittman and Pierces your

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Speaker 2: And football is not a complicated game.

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Speaker 4: Overcome, it's not a lot of times we over complicated.

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Speaker 2: Sneak and love to see it. Yeah, not that hard,

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Speaker 7: I feel awesome.

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Speaker 8: I mean coming out here, like you said, seeing new

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Speaker 5: Sure, sure, Hey, routine's a big thing for you guys,

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Speaker 9: I know it's hard to compare, but I mean you

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Speaker 7: Very benefitical, beneficial.

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Speaker 8: We come out there and now we can talk more

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Speaker 5: Right, Isaiah mackenzie joins this cult wide receiver. When do

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Speaker 6: You're tough to, tough to defend.

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Speaker 8: I love the way to play, you know, players are

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Speaker 7: I got a joke where I say, yeah, I helped

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Speaker 5: Isaiah, in that wide receiver room, if guys aren't acting

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Speaker 5: Are you that guy that's going to say, with years

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Speaker 7: But like you said, you know, you get the acting up.

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Speaker 9: Now. One of the areas that you kind of helped

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Speaker 7: That was more of my worries.

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Speaker 8: Hey, I got just to a new playbook, learn to

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Speaker 8: plays think, you know, think a lot more in the

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Speaker 8: playbook world.

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Speaker 7: Off the field and on the field. I know what

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Speaker 7: I can do and things like that.

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Speaker 8: On the field, I know I can I'm fast, I'm quick,

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Speaker 8: I can catch the football, can run and you know

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Speaker 8: whatever special teams. And then off the field, I know

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Speaker 8: I got a fiance, I know I got a dog.

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Speaker 8: Gotta separate. I gotta get that playbook out my head

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Speaker 8: for at least a couple of hours.

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Speaker 6: And that's tough.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is tough.

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Speaker 8: It is tough, especially if I don't mess up on

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Speaker 8: the play or drop the ball or ran the wrong route.

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Speaker 7: Got it in me.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of like stuck in your head for a while.

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Speaker 8: And then sometimes she's asking me like, oh, what's wrong

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Speaker 8: with you? And I'm like, you know, I'm trying to

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Speaker 8: just you know, get out and get up my own

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Speaker 8: head for a minute. But I feel like I do

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Speaker 8: a good job of separating the best that I can

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Speaker 8: and trying to keep my family happy and just trying

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Speaker 8: to be keep myself happy.

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Speaker 6: And let me ask you about Sunday nights.

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Speaker 5: After a game, is Isaama Kins, after a nice dinner

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Speaker 5: with family and friends, is you go home, sit down,

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Speaker 5: put on Sports Center and watch what he did earlier

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Speaker 5: in the day.

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Speaker 8: No, Actually, I put on the iPad, put on the iPad,

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Speaker 8: and then I watched.

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Speaker 7: The film my fiance.

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Speaker 8: We'll sit there, I mean, look, look and I did right,

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Speaker 8: and then after that, after that we'll put it away,

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Speaker 8: cut on the movie, or go do something and just

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Speaker 8: hang out.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it all right.

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Speaker 5: That's Isaiah Mackenzie. I so appreciate the time. Can't wait

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Speaker 5: to watch you do what you do. And the thing

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Speaker 5: is that, like I said from earlier in this interview,

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Speaker 5: I don't care just get the ball in your hand.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: That's how it is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, with that skill set that talent, get the

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Speaker 5: ball in your hands. Easy than happy you're here.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 6: Thanking Isaiah mackenzie right there.

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Speaker 1: Great conversation right there, really fun and a lot of

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Speaker 1: personality with Isaiah McKenzie with Jeffrey Gorman and Casey Valie.

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Speaker 1: Part of our Colts Training Camp Daily podcast here with

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Speaker 1: JJ stanying, if it's back at Colts Training Camp, I'm

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor. Everything's wrapping up, The sun is setting in

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Speaker 1: the background here. This is practice number thirteen out of

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Speaker 1: thirteen that just wrapped up day number two joint practice

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Speaker 1: wise with the Colts and the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Hard to believe, Jj.

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Speaker 1: It seems like in some ways we just got up

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Speaker 1: here for report day and now it's over and the Colts,

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Speaker 1: as we said, are going to have one more joint

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Speaker 1: practice with the Eagles that's coming up on Tuesday, that's

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Speaker 1: in Philly, and have their preseason finale together on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: With thirteen practices here at Grant Park. What did you

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Speaker 1: learn about the Colts over the course of three weeks

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Speaker 1: up here.

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is going to be on

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson and just that you could really since the

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Speaker 3: trust that he's building in his teammates grow and kind

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Speaker 3: of like we talked about up at the top. To me,

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Speaker 3: that's the biggest development. We knew the physical stuff was

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Speaker 3: going to be there, Like we've seen him throw a football,

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Speaker 3: We've seen him run with the football in his hands.

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Speaker 3: He is one of the most gifted athletes to ever

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Speaker 3: play the quarterback position. That's just you know, based off

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Speaker 3: his combine metrics and just seeing him out here. But

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Speaker 3: the mental side of Anthony Richardson and again the trust

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Speaker 3: that he has developed in his teammates. To me, that

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Speaker 3: that has been probably the biggest development. That this has

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Speaker 3: not seemed too big for him. He is you know,

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Speaker 3: his command of everything has grown as the days have

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Speaker 3: gone on. You've seen improvement that he's made as the

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Speaker 3: days have gone on. And you know, you understand why

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Speaker 3: the Colts named him starting quarterback this week, because he's

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Speaker 3: shown them enough to say, all right, get out there,

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Speaker 3: get the reps, put the work in. We think you know,

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Speaker 3: your development is on the right track, and now let's

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Speaker 3: go go win some football games.

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Speaker 2: What questions still remain?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at maybe maybe questions is

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Speaker 1: not the right word, but you know, there's there's things

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Speaker 1: that are still in flux, like the depth chart in

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Speaker 1: the secondary, death corner at tight end and running back

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Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor's situation right still on pup and and

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss with his broken arm. I mean, these these

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Speaker 1: are still some things that despite having three weeks up

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Speaker 1: here and some really good work, you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: filling out of the depth chart going into that Week

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Speaker 1: one game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, those are some things

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Speaker 1: that you might want to use pencil on instead of

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Speaker 1: pen or sharpie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the cornerback competition, to me, you know,

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Speaker 3: you've seen some good things from Darryl Baker, Dallas Flowers,

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Speaker 3: but those young guys are coming on. I think Jalen

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Speaker 3: Jones said a sneakily pretty good camp out here.

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Speaker 4: I noticed him quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: Darius Rush obviously the pick six in the preseason game,

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Speaker 3: getting Juju Brents out there. That that cornerback competition I

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Speaker 3: don't think is going to get settled anytime soon. And

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Speaker 3: that's okay. I think that can go into the right

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Speaker 3: regular season. You know who the the guys who are

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Speaker 3: gonna be the Week one starters, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: compete to be the week four seven ten starters, you

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Speaker 3: know that. So that's something to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 3: I think you're you're right about tight end just because

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Speaker 3: there have been some injuries in that room. You know,

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Speaker 3: Moiley Cox, Jlanni Woods, Drew Ogletree, those guys have not

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Speaker 3: practiced recently a while now right wing plus right and

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Speaker 3: you know with specifically with Woods and Ali Cox, those

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Speaker 3: are kind of the guys here, your your in line

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Speaker 3: tight ends, the guys who you know, you expect you

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Speaker 3: can put your hand on the ground, you can, they

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Speaker 3: can run, block, they can catch the ball. So that's

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Speaker 3: kind of left something open there. We've seen a lot

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Speaker 3: of Farrell Brown in that position during training camp. But

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Speaker 3: you know, get those guys healthy. I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: those guys you would expect to be part of this

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Speaker 3: offense this year, but that still is unsettled. You know,

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Speaker 3: you want to get him out on the field. You

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Speaker 3: want to get him reps. With Anthony Richardson. The good news,

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Speaker 3: Collen Grandson has looked pretty good out here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, available and available.

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Speaker 3: He's been the tight end who has been available and

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Speaker 3: has performed pretty well out.

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Speaker 2: Here to good point. That's a great point.

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Speaker 1: I asked you last night after practice, and I'll ask

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Speaker 1: you again tonight. I mean, fans want to know any

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Speaker 1: I know Shane Steiken didn't talk after practice today, and

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Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't give you a whole lot anyways, just

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Speaker 1: from a schematical standpoint, but any gut feeling on playing.

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Speaker 3: Time coming up on Saturday for these I don't have

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Speaker 3: a sense for it really because we haven't seen Shane

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Speaker 3: Stiken do this. You know, have two joint practices in

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Speaker 3: that a game. So we will, I guess we will

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Speaker 3: figure out what the deal is going to be when

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Speaker 3: we show up to the stadium on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be a good time. It's the

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Speaker 2: it's the only home preseason game for the Colts, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Saturday nights football game on Saturday football.

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Speaker 2: Game, and it's the worst.

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Speaker 1: It's the first home game for the Colts since January whatever, thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: Week eighteen game against the Texas.

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Speaker 2: Right, we all remember that game.

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Speaker 1: Just come out, hang out at you know downtown, you know,

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Speaker 1: go to a bar, go to a game, hang out, tailgate,

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Speaker 1: just enjoy the fact that it's summertime in Indianapolis and

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Speaker 1: football is back and the Bears are in town, and

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is continuing to grow and develop and if

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Speaker 1: he see the game field, that's freaking awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that is what it's all about here.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a good night. I'm excited to get

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Speaker 3: back there, regardless of who's playing. You could you could

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Speaker 3: put you know, a five year old flag football game

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Speaker 3: out on the field at Lucas Oil Stadium, and I

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Speaker 3: would be just as jacked up to be out there.

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Speaker 2: It was out there, just deck and pee week kids exactly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I would love to see that.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I mean you know, I mean that's the halftime show.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think the halftime show involves dogs, so actually

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Speaker 3: you're probably gonna want to stay in your seats at

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Speaker 3: halftime because they're dogs who will be on the field.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic Frisbee Dogs classic right there? Also a classic as

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Speaker 1: JJ Stangomit's man, well done. All training camp long, really

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Speaker 1: and I know people are enjoying them. The recaps after

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Speaker 1: on what's going on here with the colts in training camp.

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Speaker 4: After from Philly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the reaction after the joint practice against the Eagles.

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