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Speaker 2: I was on the phone with the source yesterday talking
Speaker 2: about the Cleveland Browns and I said, hey, you guys
Speaker 2: interested in Russell Wilson. He goes, Russ just signed with
Speaker 2: the Giants. I go, okay, so you're not interested in
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. It said, uh, we were, but and I said, okay,
Speaker 2: so that means you're taking Shador Sanders and he goes.
Speaker 2: Everybody is tight lipped about what the Browns are doing.
Speaker 2: They have the number two pick in the draft, and
Speaker 2: I was wondering about this. So this is where you
Speaker 2: get different agendas. The Browns could take Shador Sanders. Now,
Speaker 2: once again, don't take our quarterback. Take the quarterback, the
Speaker 2: quarterback who fits your style, your coaching staff, your system,
Speaker 2: all of those things. But if you take Shador Sanders, now,
Speaker 2: I got a rookie contract. Now that eases some of
Speaker 2: the financial pain from Deshaun Watson's contract. You can let
Speaker 2: him kind of fade away. He'll never play for you again,
Speaker 2: and you get Shador Sanders as your quarterback. Now, you're
Speaker 2: also going to pass up on guys who might be
Speaker 2: wearing a gold jacket when their careers are over, Abdul
Speaker 2: Carter and Travis Hunter. So you'd be passing up two
Speaker 2: guys out of this draft where you could probably say,
Speaker 2: if they play a awardingly according to what the scouts
Speaker 2: assess their talents, they'll be Hall of Fame caliber players.
Speaker 2: You don't know that about cam Orton. You don't know
Speaker 2: that about Shudor Sanders. But then I asked my source,
Speaker 2: I said, well, what about Kirk Cousins. He said, well,
Speaker 2: he'd have to be healthy and he's going to cost
Speaker 2: us a draft pick. And I said, okay, but he's
Speaker 2: played with Kevin Stefanski, you're head coach before he's been
Speaker 2: with him before he said yes. I said, okay, just
Speaker 2: help me understand this though, because you don't have a
Speaker 2: quarterback now. I mean, you don't have a true starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: And I keep feeling and hearing that maybe Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: once the draft is over, And this.
Speaker 3: Is what I keep going back to. If you're the.
Speaker 2: Browns, you can get Russ, you can keep him in
Speaker 2: the division, and then you can decide what you want
Speaker 2: to do. Maybe you take Adual Carter, the great edge
Speaker 2: rusher out of Penn State, so you get him with
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett and then all of a sudden you got
Speaker 2: something there. But if you don't and you take Shador Sanders,
Speaker 2: you're not ready to win now, but you still get
Speaker 2: your quarterback, quarterback contract, quarterback of the future. Then you
Speaker 2: have the giant situation. They already brought in Jameis Winston,
Speaker 2: they had Tommy DeVito, and I kept thinking, Okay, now
Speaker 2: this is where Shador Sanders is going. But I'm not
Speaker 2: so sure because you brought you brought in Russ and
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston, and I'm thinking this coaching staff and this
Speaker 2: GM have to win now. If you bring in Shador Sanders,
Speaker 2: he might not play. You might have Jameis Winston out
Speaker 2: there if you didn't bring in Russ. That feels like,
Speaker 2: you know, they're probably on an eight or nine game schedule.
Speaker 2: This coaching staff and GM like they have to be
Speaker 2: able to win now. They might not like Shador Sanders
Speaker 2: and maybe they end up with Travis Hunter, maybe they
Speaker 2: end up with Abdull Carter. Those are great, great players
Speaker 2: to have that fall into your lap. But that's where
Speaker 2: I'm wondering about the mindset of the coaching staff in GM.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: Obviously John Mayer, the owner of the Giants, can see
Speaker 2: through this. Who's the best guy to take who helps
Speaker 2: us big picture? Not necessarily right now because you're not
Speaker 2: right now, not in that division, but you have a
Speaker 2: coaching staff that better win. They better have a seven
Speaker 2: and two record, six and three record. It feels like
Speaker 2: after nine games, or if they have a three win
Speaker 2: they're three and six after nine to keep them and
Speaker 2: I think their timeframe is we got to get somebody
Speaker 2: who can help us win now. Jamis Winston, Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: one year deals, no real long term commitments. There were
Speaker 2: good Maybe we don't like the other quarterback or other
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the draft, Maybe we try to get Jackson
Speaker 2: Dart a little later on, maybe Jalen out of Alabama.
Speaker 2: So I was I was all over my source just
Speaker 2: trying to get some kind of information on what's going
Speaker 2: on with Cleveland, and I couldn't get it. Didn't know
Speaker 2: if they were sold on Shador. I didn't know if
Speaker 2: that's the place that he went to and he interviewed,
Speaker 2: and the quarterbacks coach thought he was arrogant. I you know,
Speaker 2: because does Dion want his son to go to the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns? And I wondered about that as well. I
Speaker 2: keep thinking New York because it feels like Shador, if
Speaker 2: he goes to New York, he already walks in. He's
Speaker 2: got a really good wide receiver there, and he's built
Speaker 2: for this. Like of all of the players, if you're
Speaker 2: built for the media capitol, if you're built for a spotlight,
Speaker 2: it would be Shador Sanders. His dad welcomed the spotlight.
Speaker 2: Shador seems to welcome the spotlight as well, and doesn't
Speaker 2: always work out. I go back with baseball, and I
Speaker 2: remember Greg Maddox didn't want to play in New York.
Speaker 2: Remember ed Witson pitcher. He wanted out in New York,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, New York felt too big for him. Eli
Speaker 2: Manning was ready for it. His personality made him ready
Speaker 2: for New York. You know, Aaron Rodgers, he welcomed it,
Speaker 2: it's just his achilles didn't. And even then there was
Speaker 2: still thought that maybe he would end up with the
Speaker 2: Giants because he didn't want to leave New York. He
Speaker 2: loved going to the Rangers games, standing ovation, going to
Speaker 2: the Knicks games. Like, you go to New York, you
Speaker 2: better embrace it. If not, it'll steamroll you. But that's
Speaker 2: what I thought, was Shador Sanders. He's ready for New
Speaker 2: York if he's the right quarterback for you, which I
Speaker 2: still don't know. Cam Ward is a really good quarterback,
Speaker 2: but he's not a really good quarterback in the bigger
Speaker 2: picture of quarterbacks in the NFL right now, because when
Speaker 2: we talked to draft analysts, they talk about cam Ward
Speaker 2: would be would have been the fifth or sixth quarterback
Speaker 2: taken last year. Okay, Matt Miller, great job at the
Speaker 2: Mothership said that recently. I mean, that's not a knock
Speaker 2: on him. He's still he's just the best quarterback. Now,
Speaker 2: it's timing when you come out. Who are the other
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who are coming out? And he's the best quarterback
Speaker 2: this year, but he separated himself. It feels like from
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. So that was going on yesterday afternoon, and
Speaker 2: I kept thinking, I just spent forty five minutes talking
Speaker 2: to my sores and I didn't get anything out of it.
Speaker 2: I was like, dang, I gotta get I have to
Speaker 2: ask better questions. And I usually do pretty good asking questions.
Speaker 2: I couldn't get anything tight lipped. That's what I was told. Yep,
Speaker 2: Brown's tight lipped on what they're doing at number two.
Speaker 2: Come on, maybe they don't know. Maybe that's why they're
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. And be like, wait, we got the
Speaker 2: second pick on the dew. Hey, hey, we got the
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Speaker 6: Hour better pregame speech guy on the Giants, Russell Wilson,
Speaker 6: Jameis Winston.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you looking for inspiration or entertainment? Because Jamis
Speaker 2: might not inspire me, but he would entertain me. So
Speaker 2: I would say Russ would give you.
Speaker 3: The raw, raw raw. But I just wonder if it
Speaker 3: matters to these guys. Now you're grown up. You're in
Speaker 3: there and you got somebody going, well, we're gonna run,
Speaker 3: we're doing and we're gonna tailor head up and around,
Speaker 3: and then you're like, all right, let's go. But I
Speaker 3: would say Jamis would be entertaining.
Speaker 6: I'm of the camp that Jameis Winston is extremely annoying.
Speaker 3: He we only see a little bit. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't find him amusing at all. Oh, I think
Speaker 2: he's he's not trying to be amusing. He's one of
Speaker 2: those guys that like Fritzy, he's funny, but not when
Speaker 2: he's not trying to be funny.
Speaker 3: I think there's a complimentary somewhere he didn't really be.
Speaker 6: I think Jamis Winston is trying to be funny. I
Speaker 6: think he's okay, like class clown kind of guy.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4: I can't tell whether Jamis is in on the joke
Speaker 4: or not.
Speaker 3: I think he's just odd, yes.
Speaker 7: But is that controllable? Is he calculated or is he
Speaker 7: just goofy? I think he's goofy. I think Russ wants
Speaker 7: to be something. I think he wants to be the motivational.
Speaker 7: I think he wants to be the raw rack guy,
Speaker 7: the leader. It just comes off a little too scripted.
Speaker 7: It's it's not like truly emotional. And then what's he
Speaker 7: going to say at the end. You know, whenever he
Speaker 7: does his interviews, when he'd be with Seattle, you go
Speaker 7: all right, okay, talk to you later, go homes and
Speaker 7: then in Denver, all right, we'll.
Speaker 3: Talk to you later. All right, thanks for having me
Speaker 3: on Let's Ride.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what he did for the I
Speaker 2: don't think he did one for the Steelers.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, Let's Ride didn't go over well. Well
Speaker 6: when you don't play very well. Yeah, but even right
Speaker 6: from before he even threw his first pass, we did
Speaker 6: about three straight weeks on Let's Ride.
Speaker 3: Maybe there was the video of.
Speaker 6: Him, like I don't know if he was practicing it
Speaker 6: or if it was like whatever he is you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, let's ride did not go well for Uss,
Speaker 6: fairly or unfairly. That whole catchphrase didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think he had one in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: And maybe somebody in Pittsburgh can let us know. But
Speaker 2: we didn't hear from Russ once he went to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: and for some reason we lost contact.
Speaker 3: With Russ's Okay, focus on your craft. Yes, let's write
Speaker 3: the ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe yeah, maybe maybe you know you have a
Speaker 2: good week, good month, maybe having back on yes Tom.
Speaker 8: For Winston, are you more likely to embrace or tune
Speaker 8: out odd? If we want to put the odd title
Speaker 8: on Jameis Winston. Each player obviously is different, but I
Speaker 8: wonder if the average football player would embrace that or find.
Speaker 3: Like this guy's, well, what would you do?
Speaker 8: I would embrace the oddness?
Speaker 3: You usually ask a question, especially if.
Speaker 8: He's the backup quarterback. I don't need to, you know,
Speaker 8: I don't need to be his best friend. I don't
Speaker 8: I don't have to have any strong feeling either way
Speaker 8: if Russ is our guide, But I would lean towards
Speaker 8: embracing the oddness as long as there's some entertainment.
Speaker 2: But why don't you ask yourself the question and then
Speaker 2: you give me your answer, you know, just say you
Speaker 2: know what it would I would embrace the oddness.
Speaker 9: That is a thought.
Speaker 3: That one way to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can't spell todd without odd.
Speaker 8: I was waiting for that very clever.
Speaker 6: Yes, Yes, Seaton, I'm okay with odd odd as a
Speaker 6: leader sometimes, especially when your leadership abilities should severely be
Speaker 6: questioned anyway. But you know, like if you're getting ready
Speaker 6: for the game and all of a sudden, like Jamis
Speaker 6: Is like, guys, guys, guys, get around, get around, You're like, oh, jesus,
Speaker 6: here we go, all right, jameishead dude, Just I'm just
Speaker 6: trying to get out there and get won't here we go?
Speaker 3: Jamis is gonna do that to me?
Speaker 10: Was you lick your fingers and you put your fingers
Speaker 10: in a W? Let's eat a W?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Okay?
Speaker 2: What's Russell Wilson say at the end of every interview,
Speaker 2: now that he's a New York Giants?
Speaker 3: Fritzy, do you have a few?
Speaker 8: I do have a few?
Speaker 3: Okay, the Giant.
Speaker 8: It was one thought.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jersey boys, they play.
Speaker 4: That met Lifer.
Speaker 5: Be blue.
Speaker 8: And why because we can jint condition instead of Min's condition,
Speaker 8: because they call them the Jints ginch condition blue Bloods.
Speaker 8: And then I also had we men as opposed to
Speaker 8: g Man. They're the wi men.
Speaker 11: The Giant.
Speaker 2: I think the Giant might be the winner. There met
Speaker 2: Lifer the stadium. Yes, s I'm seeing on the interwebs
Speaker 2: here that Russell Wilson, whilst in Pittsburgh, would close press
Speaker 2: conferences with the phrase win the seventh, seventh super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Seventh super Bowl?
Speaker 6: Guys, you win the seventh here you walk off.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I have.
Speaker 6: That didn't really bubble up on the radar quite as much,
Speaker 6: But I don't know how often he said that or
Speaker 6: if he really did. But according to the Internet, he said,
Speaker 6: win the seventh. And then with the Giants, what do
Speaker 6: they have two super Bowls? Three super Bowls?
Speaker 2: Four?
Speaker 3: So win the fifth? Hey, big apple? Bite it? Yeah? No,
Speaker 3: I mean my big apple. Yeah, let's bite it.
Speaker 10: Yes.
Speaker 3: So why didn't he say with the will bite me? Yes?
Speaker 4: Why didn't he say go forth?
Speaker 8: Then with the Broncos, as they had three super Bowls,
Speaker 8: if they're gona if he's gonna pay up numbers like
Speaker 8: he did with the Steelers.
Speaker 3: No, no, he truly knew they weren't gonna win a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: He was aware.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he couldn't be that phony. No, he couldn't say.
Speaker 3: Why didn't they talking about Arsenom Bowl anything? You're talking
Speaker 3: about Artheno ball.
Speaker 8: We let's ride definitely didn't make sense because anytime anyone
Speaker 8: got anywhere near him, he went right to the ground.
Speaker 8: So he's not riding anywhere.
Speaker 3: Oh, now you turn you turned on it. I watched
Speaker 3: every play.
Speaker 8: Oh, here comes the dick, comes the rush, and down
Speaker 8: he goes.
Speaker 4: He used to scramble with the Seahawks and.
Speaker 8: Pick up first downs, and he just up. I'm down.
Speaker 8: Let's now, let's punt the gun.
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Speaker 2: Somebody on our audience sent us a tweet, and that's
Speaker 2: maybe we misinterpreted what Russell Wilson was saying when he
Speaker 2: would end his press conferences with the Broncos. It's not
Speaker 2: let's ride, it's le let's slide. Oh, let's slide. Oh okayproization,
Speaker 2: Let's slide.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought he was saying, let's ride, But you said
Speaker 2: all he does is slide. Maybe that's what he was saying,
Speaker 2: let's slide.
Speaker 8: There was a lot of giving up on the play
Speaker 8: and taking inn and punting.
Speaker 2: The Giants are operating like a team that knows they're
Speaker 2: running out of time when you think about it, and
Speaker 2: your owner says his patience is running out.
Speaker 3: So you usually do two things.
Speaker 2: You either try to trade up for a quarterback, or
Speaker 2: you get a veteran and you throw some money at
Speaker 2: a veteran, a last ditched effort to win. Now, now,
Speaker 2: they flirted with the first option. I think that there
Speaker 2: was genuine talk that they would try to move up,
Speaker 2: and they didn't know if Tennessee was going to take
Speaker 2: cam Ward. I still don't know if Tennessee is going
Speaker 2: to take cam Ward. If I'm Tennessee, I'm inflating his
Speaker 2: value right now. Because he had the pro dag they
Speaker 2: have fawned all over him. He had some comments about
Speaker 2: why he should be so now all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you got some general interest in Okay, maybe he is legit,
Speaker 2: maybe he is real.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know.
Speaker 2: Now it's gotten a little bit too expensive, maybe for
Speaker 2: the Giants, because I'm going to guess, if you need
Speaker 2: a quarterback and you want to make sure that he
Speaker 2: is worthy of the number one overall pick, what are
Speaker 2: you willing to go up and get him?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: If I'm the Giants, I would not go up and
Speaker 2: get cam Ward unless I thought he was the second
Speaker 2: coming of Eli Manning.
Speaker 3: I would not be going up there.
Speaker 2: Other you need other players, I'm going to get a
Speaker 2: player at number three unless you take Shador Sanders, who
Speaker 2: I think has a chance to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: How many players in a draft do you say that
Speaker 2: like a legitimate chance to be a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 2: Abdoor Carter and Travis Hunter. I think the consensus would
Speaker 2: be yes. Now, there's going to be players coming out
Speaker 2: of this draft that may go in the second round,
Speaker 2: late in the first and you go, golly, look at
Speaker 2: how many teams passed on him, But you got to
Speaker 2: hit on these picks. In today's NFL. You want that
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback contract, but you got to hit on these.
Speaker 2: You don't know when you're going to be back in
Speaker 2: the top five, although with the Browns you may be
Speaker 2: back here next year and the Giants could be back.
Speaker 2: But I think the Giants will be better. The Browns
Speaker 2: should be better. It's just sometimes the Browns do Browns
Speaker 2: like things and they don't get the right guy. If
Speaker 2: they get Shdor Sanders is even going to play, so
Speaker 2: the curiosity. But you know, the Giants look like they're
Speaker 2: just going to sit back. So you get Jamis, you
Speaker 2: get Russell Wilson. Russ Is thirty six. So it's not
Speaker 2: a long term answer there. This just feels like the
Speaker 2: coaching staff is saying, we're going to be respectable this year.
Speaker 2: We're not going to win the division, we're not going
Speaker 2: to go to the playoffs. And maybe now I would
Speaker 2: think if you're one of those coaches, you do drap
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, because then you say to management, hey, he's
Speaker 2: the guy, and we want to make sure we're coaching
Speaker 2: him for the next five years or however long it is.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't buy into that if I'm an owner, because
Speaker 2: we saw that with Matt Eberflus in Chicago. Hey, you
Speaker 2: know we got our rookie quarterback. I guess you can't
Speaker 2: fire me. No, no, they can fire you, all right, Seeton.
Speaker 2: Let's poll question for the first hour of the program.
Speaker 6: Well, we're putting up their better pregame speech guy for
Speaker 6: the Giants, Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston. We have another one
Speaker 6: here from Paul. You can put one into place, a
Speaker 6: hard salary cap in baseball or a return to the
Speaker 6: old transfer system in college sports. It's interesting because I'm
Speaker 6: gonna throw in a neither neither there because there may
Speaker 6: be some of us who don't want either of those
Speaker 6: things in sports.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: Baseball is going to look at this hard salary cap
Speaker 2: at some point because of the disparity between what they
Speaker 2: spend in with the Oakland A's Sacramento as what you
Speaker 2: spend with the Dodgers. I understand it, and and most
Speaker 2: of these owners they just want to make money. They
Speaker 2: don't want to have to spend a lot of money,
Speaker 2: and they're kind of in their comfort zone. I think
Speaker 2: if you have let's raise the floor a little bit.
Speaker 2: You must spend at least this. I think that would
Speaker 2: be better for the game. But I don't know if
Speaker 2: you're going to get can you get enough owners who
Speaker 2: were going to say, and when you think about.
Speaker 3: It, how many owners?
Speaker 2: How many teams can actually afford to spend four hundred,
Speaker 2: five hundred million dollars?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Not many? I think the Cubs have a player.
Speaker 2: Didn't they just sign somebody to like a fourteen year,
Speaker 2: six hundred million dollar deal.
Speaker 7: No, No, that's a guy who they think will be
Speaker 7: worth that when he's done. He's like a got a
Speaker 7: one year deal. Now Kyle Tucker with subs, and they
Speaker 7: think that he'll be on the market next year and
Speaker 7: someone will give him that monster.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: You know, I'd be in favor of fiscal sanity with
Speaker 2: some of these signings here. But I think and Jeff
Speaker 2: Passing of the Mothership had a column about that that
Speaker 2: you know we're going to be headed to maybe a
Speaker 2: work stoppage in a couple of years. Look, it's not
Speaker 2: fun to talk about potential work stoppages or strikes because
Speaker 2: I covered them when I worked in New York. I
Speaker 2: covered you know, NFL strikes baseball strikes not fun at all.
Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes you need to have a reset here.
Speaker 2: And I wonder if baseball and the ownership groups will say,
Speaker 2: we need we need to have, you know, a hard
Speaker 2: cap in here.
Speaker 3: I'm all for whatever you can get you get.
Speaker 2: You know, nobody ever says to the owner, hey, making
Speaker 2: too much money here. You know, it's supply and demand.
Speaker 2: It's timing what you ask for when you ask for it.
Speaker 2: How good are you comparing you to a player of yesteryear?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what happens. It's same thing with
Speaker 2: the transfer portal. If okay, if I look at the numbers, now,
Speaker 2: let's say I took all of Division two and Division one.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to put Division three in there because
Speaker 2: they're really not affecting the transfer portal.
Speaker 3: They're not getting money.
Speaker 2: But Division two, we saw what those players did for Drake,
Speaker 2: so you have to factor that in. But let's say
Speaker 2: a thousand are transferring. What is the percentage of basketball
Speaker 2: players and those who are transferring. What do you have
Speaker 2: twenty thousand basketball players?
Speaker 6: If you include D three, there would be twenty thousands.
Speaker 6: Between D one and D two, there's probably somewhere between
Speaker 6: ten and fourteen thousand players.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the percentage it's so one thousand so far,
Speaker 2: let's say it's twelve thousand Division two and Division one players.
Speaker 2: Is that an allarm? And what happens is we think
Speaker 2: in our world this makes it tougher for me to
Speaker 2: follow the sport. Well, if you're in Connecticut or you're
Speaker 2: in Arizona, you're at UCLA, you're following your team. You're
Speaker 2: well versed in who your team is getting and who
Speaker 2: your team is losing. Now, us on the outside, we're
Speaker 2: not following it day to day. But if you talk
Speaker 2: to somebody and say, hey, saw where you're getting a
Speaker 2: four star recruit, boom, that fan's going to tell you
Speaker 2: everything about that player. But we bemoan the fact I
Speaker 2: don't even know who these guys are. But the locals,
Speaker 2: local fan, that's your team, that's your player, that's your recruit,
Speaker 2: that's your transfer portal.
Speaker 3: They know.
Speaker 2: So I think there's an alarmist the sky is falling.
Speaker 2: It's still good basketball.
Speaker 3: Yes? Is it top heavy with chalk this year? It is?
Speaker 3: Do we miss a mid major? Do we miss an
Speaker 3: eleven Sea? Yes? We do.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is the way it's going to
Speaker 2: be I think, you know, this feels like it's an aboration,
Speaker 2: maybe anomaly.
Speaker 3: It's been back to back years.
Speaker 2: But okay, maybe we'll get that and then everybody will
Speaker 2: be a little bit better with this. But I think
Speaker 2: the oh my gosh, the transfer portal, I can't keep track,
Speaker 2: well you can't keep track. And Jeff Goodman, a college
Speaker 2: basketball reporter, he said, you know basically that what's going
Speaker 2: on here, this is terrible. It makes it tougher for
Speaker 2: him to do his job. But if I'm a local
Speaker 2: basketball fan, like a Connecticut basketball fan, Beet Marvin knows
Speaker 2: who they're getting, who you're recruiting, who you're losing, like
Speaker 2: you know that we don't, and therefore, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is terrible here. Yeah, it is a weird.
Speaker 6: Thing because right now, at the same time, you have
Speaker 6: people complaining about college basketball stinks because I don't know
Speaker 6: who any of the players are they move around so much.
Speaker 6: And at the same time, college basketball stinks because look
Speaker 6: at the tournament.
Speaker 3: There's no uh, there's.
Speaker 6: No cinderellas well those if it were was a Cinderella,
Speaker 6: you know, every Robert Morris basketball player.
Speaker 3: Of course, not nobody has any idea who those kids are,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 6: So it's like you're you're kind of trying to have
Speaker 6: it both ways, where you want to know all of
Speaker 6: the players and at the same time you want all
Speaker 6: of these surprise players too.
Speaker 2: And then you have women's college basketball where they have
Speaker 2: to stay. Now, they could transfer, but they have to
Speaker 2: stay in college for four years.
Speaker 3: You have the familiarity with the women's game. Now.
Speaker 2: I believe the ratings the viewership was up, might be,
Speaker 2: you know, a record high for viewership with March Madness.
Speaker 2: So you know, something's not right in the situation here.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's the get off my lawn.
Speaker 2: I don't know who these players are.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: What I love to see, You know, a guy be
Speaker 2: like Christian Latner, you know Cooper Flag plays four years, Yes,
Speaker 2: but he's not going to pass up on the money
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Or Tim dun stays in his entire
Speaker 2: career at Wake Force. Yes, I would love it. I
Speaker 2: mean I grew up where lu Al Sindor spent his
Speaker 2: entire career at UCLA. Bill Walton spent his entire career
Speaker 2: at UCLA. You know, Steve Alford at Indiana, Pete marrabadge
Speaker 2: At like, yes, I get it. I loved it. The familiarity.
Speaker 2: It was great to see them play year in an ero.
Speaker 2: But that's not the that's not life anymore. It's about money, opportunity,
Speaker 2: taking advantage of it and then move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of on the other side of this. I disagree.
Speaker 7: I think that the transfer portal, like last year, I
Speaker 7: think it was six hundred players entered this year, it's
Speaker 7: almost twelve hundred today. And for me, I like storylines
Speaker 7: from year to year, players to support from year to
Speaker 7: year or follow from year to year, whether it be
Speaker 7: a team I like, or just as a fan of
Speaker 7: college basketball altogether. And I think it makes it harder
Speaker 7: as a fan to make appointments to watch teams and
Speaker 7: learn it. I know it's you know, I don't know
Speaker 7: every player every year, no matter what, but I think
Speaker 7: it hurts the fan experiences jumping from team to team.
Speaker 7: If it's your team, you know that if your team
Speaker 7: is good, they're going to get pillaged by a bigger team.
Speaker 7: So there's not a lot to invest in from year
Speaker 7: to year. You got to start fresh every year. And
Speaker 7: I think consuming the sport, there's no storylines that follow
Speaker 7: from year to year except for Tom Izzo or Jay
Speaker 7: Wright or coaches that stay. So I think it hurts
Speaker 7: the fan experience. It hurts my fan experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but once again, you're being selfish with how you
Speaker 2: view this, whether a fan of a team knows who
Speaker 2: his team is bringing in and not bringing in.
Speaker 7: I'm all for players getting paid, but I'm also a
Speaker 7: little bit for players committing to a franchise committing to
Speaker 7: an NIL. I don't know, when you sign with your
Speaker 7: NIL as a freshman at Marquette, do you have to
Speaker 7: make it to your sophomore year to get your NIL money.
Speaker 7: It appears not, And in the NFL, when you sign
Speaker 7: your contract with the team, you have to make it
Speaker 7: to year two and three and four. I just think
Speaker 7: that the lack of commitment on either side, including the coaches,
Speaker 7: is hurts the sport altogether for the fan experience.
Speaker 2: For the fan experience, I would love to have that.
Speaker 2: That's why nobody cares about the regular season. But how
Speaker 2: many sports other than the NFL do you go I'm
Speaker 2: locked in in the regular season? I mean, let's be
Speaker 2: honest here, how many sports do we go GOE can't
Speaker 2: wait to watch like last night. Now, Steph Curry was hurt,
Speaker 2: but I tuned in to watch the Heat against Golden State.
Speaker 2: That was must see TV. Good storyline there when Luca
Speaker 2: goes back to Dallas. Okay, but how many of those
Speaker 2: moments do you go? Yeah, the regular season's awesome hockey. No,
Speaker 2: postseason's awesome baseball. You're going to go day to day,
Speaker 2: night to night, game to game. No, the NBA.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: So college basketball falls in line. College football is week
Speaker 2: to week and there's only you know, there's a finite
Speaker 2: number of games.
Speaker 3: It's fifteen games. Let's say.
Speaker 2: Then it's interesting the NFL take them off the board.
Speaker 2: College basketball falls in line with the other sports. It's like, uh,
Speaker 2: we'll figure it out. I watch enough college basketball to
Speaker 2: at least be fluent in it, but I'm probably in
Speaker 2: the minority. But I watch it because I love it,
Speaker 2: but I watch it because I have to watch it, Yes, Martin,
Speaker 2: But when.
Speaker 10: It comes to schools like Duke in Kentucky and Kansas
Speaker 10: and UCLA, you're watching because it's the school. You know
Speaker 10: they're gonna have a top prize recruit. You don't know
Speaker 10: who the recruit is, but you know they canna have
Speaker 10: a bunch of five stars, so you're gonna watch because
Speaker 10: it's Duke versus Kansas year and a year out, and
Speaker 10: you're gonna have to make the transition in players at
Speaker 10: least every three to four years, so it's going to
Speaker 10: be a new batch of guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I used to rail on it, but it was for
Speaker 2: a selfish reason. Then I understand what Paulie is saying.
Speaker 2: I want basketball to be the way it used to be,
Speaker 2: but it's not. It can't be, it never will be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, pauland I think there are ways to do it,
Speaker 7: but they're pretty extreme and they're not player friendly. Of course,
Speaker 7: I'll get it well because I don't think the players
Speaker 7: should be the priority of the sport, which sounds really weird.
Speaker 7: But the fans pay the bills. The fans supporting the
Speaker 7: sponsors pay all the bills, and I would the NFL
Speaker 7: is not a players league, it's a fans league. They
Speaker 7: cater to the fans and the players are a secondary citizen.
Speaker 7: And they're the most successful sports league in America. If
Speaker 7: you if I could change one thing about college sports,
Speaker 7: you want to sign an NIL deal?
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 7: You get all your money, most of your money, almost
Speaker 7: like a bonus like a hedge. Fun guy, you get
Speaker 7: eighty percent of your money after your third year here. Great,
Speaker 7: So you sign up Marquette out of high school and
Speaker 7: we're going to pay you blank blank blank Great, you
Speaker 7: get the lion's share of your money after you complete
Speaker 7: your third year with our program. Now you're staying. Now,
Speaker 7: it's a better fan exp.
Speaker 3: What if I do that with a coach? Great, coaches
Speaker 3: aren't going to sign up for that, I know.
Speaker 2: So why am I asking the players to do something
Speaker 2: that the coaches don't have to adhere too?
Speaker 7: Because it's best for the fans. And I'm a fan experienced.
Speaker 2: Person, but I can't go, Hey, it's good for you,
Speaker 2: But the hell with these kids. It was never about
Speaker 2: the kids until it became about the kids. And now
Speaker 2: we're in this situation where everybody's, you know, bemoaning the
Speaker 2: fact that the players have power here?
Speaker 3: Do I like them jumping around?
Speaker 2: Ask Connecticut when they won two national titles when they
Speaker 2: took in transfer portal players, You okay to the transfer portal?
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 2: Yes, if you do it right, you love it. It's
Speaker 2: those who lose players. I feel bad for the smaller schools,
Speaker 2: you know, the mid majors where look at what we've
Speaker 2: got and then you know somebody is just waiting to
Speaker 2: pick you off. Robert Jones is the head coach at
Speaker 2: Norfolk State, and he had this to say, this.
Speaker 5: Is narrow glorified JUCO. You know, this is like Norfolk
Speaker 5: State Community College. Because it's like when I say that,
Speaker 5: not because of the people things like that, but it's
Speaker 5: just the way it is.
Speaker 3: Juco coaches.
Speaker 5: I have so much more respect for them these days
Speaker 5: because they have to get a new team every year,
Speaker 5: well every two years or something like that. Right, you know,
Speaker 5: now we got to get a new team every year
Speaker 5: every too, So we basically have glorified JUCO because these kids,
Speaker 5: you know, until mid majors and not just nof State,
Speaker 5: untill mid majors get the money that hog majors have,
Speaker 5: We're never gonna be able to keep kids here. You know,
Speaker 5: for a long time. I say it's easy to get them,
Speaker 5: it's harder to retain them. You know, you can get
Speaker 5: them because there's a lot of kids that want opportunities.
Speaker 5: A lot of kids want opportunities, but once they get
Speaker 5: the opportunity and then they blow up, it's harder to
Speaker 5: retain them. Because now the big boy's gonna come.
Speaker 2: Yes, and the mid majors are never gonna get that money.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna have the money to compete. So you're
Speaker 2: gonna get a guy, You're gonna develop a guy. Maybe
Speaker 2: you get him for two years and that he's gonna
Speaker 2: go someplace else. It's just supplying demand until you get
Speaker 2: to that point where you have the haves and the
Speaker 2: have nots. You separate them. Maybe you have salary caps,
Speaker 2: maybe you have the mid majors, maybe they're not playing
Speaker 2: in March madness. I mean, there has to be everything's
Speaker 2: on the table with this as we move forward, because
Speaker 2: it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: See, I think that the like maybe it's not like
Speaker 6: in a psychological sense or whatever, but I think if
Speaker 6: I really boil down what I think people's problem is
Speaker 6: with the transfer portal and nil. I think that most
Speaker 6: grown men have a problem with kids that young making
Speaker 6: more money than them and having more freedom than you
Speaker 6: could ever possibly imagine. Nobody can move jobs like that.
Speaker 6: Cooper Flag has already made three times the amount of
Speaker 6: money that I've made in my entire life, every cent
Speaker 6: I've ever earned. That kid has already made at least
Speaker 6: three times that, and I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 6: But I think that dudes who are out working hard,
Speaker 6: digging ditches like real work, and you sit down and
Speaker 6: you watch TV, and these little diva kids get to
Speaker 6: jump around from team to team, collecting check after check
Speaker 6: after check, more money than you could ever possibly dream of,
Speaker 6: more freedom than you could ever possibly dream of. I
Speaker 6: think that's really the root of the problem. I don't
Speaker 6: think it has anything to do with I can't tell
Speaker 6: who's on what team anymore. I think it's how does
Speaker 6: this eighteen year old kid have so much money?
Speaker 2: And I don't Yeah, that doesn't That doesn't impact me more,
Speaker 2: you know, other than I want the sport to be great,
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's great. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: going to be great, and I miss that for other
Speaker 2: fans who look at the sport and go college basketball
Speaker 2: was wonderful, but it was wonderful because it was controlling
Speaker 2: these players and they didn't get an opportunity. Coaches could
Speaker 2: go wherever they wanted, and I didn't look at that
Speaker 2: side of it, And now you have to look at
Speaker 2: all sides, and there's many sides to this, and yes,
Speaker 2: do I want yesteryear?
Speaker 3: I do? But I gotta be fair.
Speaker 2: If my son was playing and he was good enough
Speaker 2: to transfer, and he was good enough to get a
Speaker 2: million dollars, am I going to.
Speaker 3: Go you know what?
Speaker 9: Not?
Speaker 2: In my day we wouldn't allow that. You gotta be
Speaker 2: fair to the situation. And the situation happened because the
Speaker 2: grown ups allowed this to happen.
Speaker 6: Yes, somebody comes in and offers that in Norfolk State
Speaker 6: coach three times a salary to go to Penn State.
Speaker 6: He's gonna be like, you know, I don't think I'm
Speaker 6: done here just yet, at this year. We still have
Speaker 6: a mission here at this glorified juco. All right, it's
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Speaker 2: Patrick in Buffalo, Good morning, Patrick, what's on your mind tonight?
Speaker 9: Hey? DP, Same day podcast listener, first time caller six'
Speaker 9: one through fifteen. I wanted to share with you the
Speaker 9: fix that I have for the NBA, and before you,
Speaker 9: you know, reject it, consider that they've already made a
Speaker 9: major update to the scoring previously in the league's history.
Speaker 9: But essentially, you know, I consider that the product to
Speaker 9: be watered down. There's a lot of bad shots being
Speaker 9: taken from beyond the arc, and it's essentially because it's incentivized. Right,
Speaker 9: the three is worth the two. So my theory is
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Speaker 9: the arc worth three points.
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm so jealous of that.
Speaker 2: I'll run that by the commissioner next time I have
Speaker 2: him on, I'll ask him that. Look, there are guys
Speaker 2: that are really, really, really highly skilled, incredible, incredible deep shooters,
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't want to have that get lost.
Speaker 2: But there are other guys that want to emulate that
Speaker 2: or think they can be that kind of player.
Speaker 5: And I don't.
Speaker 2: They think there's always going to be room for the
Speaker 2: mid range jumper. And I just wonder what happens to
Speaker 2: a basketball player who happens to be I'm not going
Speaker 2: to say shack like, but you know, we had yaoming like,
Speaker 2: what happens to one of those players. It's discouraged to
Speaker 2: have a player like that. I just think eventually, as
Speaker 2: I said, with the running game in the NFL, at
Speaker 2: some point it all comes back around and the running
Speaker 2: game becomes valuable. And it happened this year. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: a one off. You're going to have maybe two or
Speaker 2: three running backs taken in the first round. Maybe you
Speaker 2: have Ashton Genty taken by the Raiders at seven. But
Speaker 2: at some point do we get back to I got
Speaker 2: a big guy inside and you can't stop him, yes, Marman.
Speaker 10: The best player in the game is the center. I
Speaker 10: know he shoots a little bit, he shoots maybe three
Speaker 10: to four three pointers a game, but down low in
Speaker 10: the post, there's nobody that can guard him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he is so he's at the top of
Speaker 2: the key where he's just a point center. He created
Speaker 2: a position, he's a point center. And he does have
Speaker 2: a really really nice touch. He can shoot. Shack can't shoot.
Speaker 2: Yoming had a nice touch. I don't want Yoming out
Speaker 2: on the perimeter like that fifteen footer. Okay, I mean
Speaker 2: that's fine with brook Lopez. But what would happen if
Speaker 2: Shaq played today?
Speaker 10: He'd average eighty seven points if threes were were twos,
Speaker 10: eighty seven points a game.
Speaker 3: I mean, no one could stop it. I know we're
Speaker 3: going to get to that moment, yes, Maar.
Speaker 10: He'd also average eight assists because when they would double him,
Speaker 10: they'd be guys just waiting at the three point when
Speaker 10: ready to shoot.
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