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Speaker 1: And we're back for yet another week. Welcome in. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Pape. This is the Late Kick Extra podcast. Got

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Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of submissions from you this week about

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Speaker 1: pretty much everything you could guess it would be about.

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Speaker 1: We've got a ton to talk about. Appreciate so much

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Speaker 1: the five star reviews that you guys have given us.

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Speaker 1: Keep those coming in, keep those questions coming in. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you right off the top, guys, I

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Speaker 1: know there's been a lot of negativity this week. It's

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Speaker 1: been an unprecedented week in the history of college football,

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Speaker 1: even if you're four years old or eighty four years old.

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Speaker 1: But I'm recording this early Wednesday morning. I got to

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Speaker 1: be straight with you, I got a lot more optimism

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Speaker 1: right now than maybe I did seventy two or ninety

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Speaker 1: There are questions that so many of you have asked.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even going to put a name on them.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to present the most common questions that

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Speaker 1: you've asked about this topic, and that topic, of course,

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Speaker 1: being the cancelment or postponement if you want to use

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Speaker 1: that term, of seasons and the big ten in the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve Big twelve late last night, making their stance

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Speaker 1: known along with the ACC and the SEC. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to get into all that, and we've also got

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Speaker 1: a lot of classical Late Kick extra mailbag content on

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Speaker 1: the back end, so we've got no time to waste. Again.

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Speaker 1: The way to get in touch with the show at

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Speaker 1: Latekick Josh on Twitter, Josh pat seven zero six at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com, and you can also comment on Late

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel, one of which, if you didn't notice, just

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Speaker 1: totally went off the rails Sunday night disaster of a show.

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Speaker 1: When Colin and I walked out of the studio, it

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Speaker 1: was as if we had just landed Apollo thirteen into

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Speaker 1: the ocean. If you've ever seen that movie and you

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Speaker 1: right into this. What a seventy two to ninety six

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Speaker 1: hour period it's been huh, Substitute teachers if you've ever

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Speaker 1: guys may want to get out of there. A lot

431
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: of people in the Pac twelve may want to get

432
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Speaker 1: out of there. Where are they going? How much room

433
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: do they really have? This is another one of those deals,

434
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 1: by the way, where I think it's strategic in nature

435
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: when you phrase it as we're not canceling our season,

436
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: we're postponing our season. So what are you talking about transferring?

437
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Speaker 1: Our season's happening. It's just happening in the spring. Well,

438
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: with watching how poorly this has been managed to this point,

439
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: you can understand the doubt that a lot of people

440
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: have in their minds, especially from a player's perspective, when

441
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: you say, Okay, you told us we were having a

442
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: fall season six days ago and just canceled it pulled

443
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: the rug out from under us. Why would I ever

444
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: trust you four or five months out from a season

445
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: that you say is going to happen. So no, I'm

446
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: packing my bags and I'm transferring, and I'm going to

447
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: a place where it seems like they actually listen to

448
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: the voices of the players and parents of players and

449
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: the coaches. It seems like that conference down there in

450
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: the SEC, or over there in the ACC or over

451
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: on the other side in the Big twelve, it seems

452
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Speaker 1: like they're a lot more apt to listen to me

453
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: than you are. And there are winning programs there. Half

454
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Speaker 1: of them probably recruited me out of high school, if

455
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Speaker 1: I'm any good to begin with. So all this is

456
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Speaker 1: on the table, and I'd be lying to you if

457
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Speaker 1: I told you anyone in our industry at twenty four

458
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: to seven sports or otherwise had a highly educated guess

459
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: about what's going to happen here. Everything's unprecedented, so there's

460
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: really no way to know. I can tell you now

461
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: I've heard Kirk Ference kind of go on the record yesterday,

462
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Speaker 1: and a lot of other coaches behind the scenes. They're

463
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Speaker 1: very scared, to varying degrees, they're scared about their rosters

464
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: being poached. Now here's the sense I get. The sense

465
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Speaker 1: I get is one of the benefits of going on

466
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Speaker 1: the record and being as public about this as you

467
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Speaker 1: have at Penn State with James Franklin or Ryan Day

468
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Speaker 1: at Ohio State and voicing your displeasure at every turn

469
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Speaker 1: with the league's handling of this, etc. Is when someone

470
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Speaker 1: tries to come and poach you from their roster, they

471
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: can look at you and say no, no, no, no, no

472
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Speaker 1: no no. We're of the same mentality they are. Okay,

473
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: the league's decision was not our decision. So don't think

474
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Speaker 1: for a second that just because the league made this decision,

475
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Speaker 1: that's how we think around Okay, we are right in

476
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: line with you. And more importantly, when it comes to recruiting,

477
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: this is gonna be used. Make no mistake about it.

478
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Speaker 1: Let me be crystal clear. Every program, if you get

479
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Speaker 1: a season off the ground in the SEC, or the

480
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Speaker 1: ACC or the Big twelve, or hopefully all three, every

481
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Speaker 1: one of those programs when they are recruiting, heads up

482
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Speaker 1: for a four star defensive end out a Huntsville, Alabama

483
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Speaker 1: against the likes of the Big ten or it probably

484
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Speaker 1: the Big ten Pac twelve doesn't venture down to Huntsville

485
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Speaker 1: very often. It's gonna be used, and it should be used.

486
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even view that as negative recruiting, to be

487
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Speaker 1: honest with you. I think a lot of the Big

488
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Speaker 1: ten folks believe it may cost us a kid or two,

489
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: but we'll largely be able to weather that storm. Calls

490
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: number one, this is just a one time deal. This

491
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: will never happen again. And number two, we can point

492
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: back to our public statements and say, look, that was

493
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: politics that was behind the scenes, backroom stuff. We weren't

494
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Speaker 1: involved in it. We wanted to play and we will play.

495
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Speaker 1: And you're still of everything here that you would have

496
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: been capable of before that happened. So just forget twenty twenty. However,

497
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure that that confidence is founded because

498
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Speaker 1: of the next point that I want to get to.

499
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: And the next point is not so much a question

500
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: you guys asked, I mean dozens of you asked do

501
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: you think the season is going to happen? I think

502
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: that every effort is going to be made, which I

503
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: can't say in some places, but every possible effort is

504
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: being exhausted in the league offices and the acc SEC

505
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: Big twelve on board here. Every league left, I believe,

506
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Speaker 1: is in it until the very end. And by the way,

507
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Speaker 1: I would also pay attention to conferences like the Sun Belt.

508
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Speaker 1: They haven't canceled anything. The AAC has not canceled anything.

509
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: Conference USA is not canceled anything. So I know people

510
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: still think in power five terms, and you think you're

511
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: down to three, Well, what a golden opportunity if you're

512
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: able to make it happen. What a golden opportunity for

513
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: a program like Memphis for example, or a program like

514
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: UCF or a program like Louisiana Tech. What a golden

515
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: opportunity that could present itself this fall. But let's just

516
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: wrap it around again and go back to the question

517
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: that a lot of you were asking, and that is

518
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: will they get a season? And as I sit here

519
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: on Wednesday morning in what is it August twelve? August twelfth,

520
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm still of the belief that every possible effort is

521
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: going to be made, and I think that a season

522
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: will be gotten off the ground. Or to put it

523
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: another way, if Greg sank and the SEC end up

524
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: canceling their season, you will then know there was no

525
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: way to get a college football season off the ground. Now,

526
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 1: getting it off the ground versus landing it again two

527
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: different things. Let's at least get to that bridge and

528
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: try and cross it. So I believe we'll get a

529
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: season off the ground. Still believe that if you made

530
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: me bet money, I would still bet money on that.

531
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Speaker 1: But for all the talking and hand ringing and concern,

532
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: valid concern, but concern over what would happen if we

533
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: started the season and then things were terrible and we

534
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: looked horrible and we all lost our jobs and kids

535
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: got heard. And you know, this has been talked about

536
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot over the past few months, but for all

537
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: that concern, I haven't heard many people bring the counter

538
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: scenario up. So let me present it to you in

539
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: rhetorical fashion, and then we'll move on. Let's say that

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00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: you are an Ohio State fan. Let's say you're the

541
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: head coach at Ohio State. Let's say you are the

542
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: athletic director at Wisconsin. Let's say that you're the university

543
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: president at Purdue, and you've made the decision that you've

544
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: made or the conference has, whether you liked it or not,

545
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: so the conference has made their decision. You guys are

546
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: not playing football this fall now as you sit here

547
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: this morning or tonight, depending on when you're listening to

548
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: this podcast right now, your brethren down south they're planning

549
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: on playing and in the ACC in the Big Twelve. Okay, Now,

550
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: you probably think that it's only a matter of time

551
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: before they cancel their seasons. That's what you probably think.

552
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: But let's say it doesn't happen. And let's say you're

553
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: sitting there at Ohio State or Wisconsin or Purdue, and

554
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: it's September twenty sixth, and those teams kick it off.

555
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: ACC could move their date, we'll see. But let's say

556
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: it gets to week one and they're actually following through

557
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: on this. They've made it through camp, and they've had

558
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: some hiccups, they've had a few things that have to

559
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: be adjusted, but they made it to the start of

560
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: the season. You're probably still very cynical and you're saying, well,

561
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: watch this crash and burn, and week one goes by,

562
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: and week two goes by, and week three goes by,

563
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: and we get to the midpoint of those seasons, and

564
00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: outside of some minor hiccups, those conferences are largely succeeding

565
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: in playing a college football season. Do you understand for

566
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: all the heat that is on the Big Ten, now,

567
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: do you have the slightest clue the absolute torch and

568
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: pitchfork mob that would form in the Big Ten if

569
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: they are looking elsewhere, And keep in mind, their leadership

570
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: has told them it's abundantly clear we cannot have a

571
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: college football season. And they're looking down South and they're

572
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: faring just fine, and they're doing just fine in the ACC,

573
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: and they're doing just fine in the Big Twelve, and

574
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: all their protocols that they had in place as it

575
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: turns out, worked and they rewarded their programs and their

576
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: student athletes and their coaches for adhering to those protocols

577
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: by playing a season, and the season is working. I

578
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: don't even know what it looks like, to be honest

579
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: with you, I just know that the Big Ten, as

580
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: you know it would probably cease to exist. I'm not

581
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: giving you some Sodom and Gomora Burnett to the ground

582
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: type scenario. But what I'm saying is, if you're a

583
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Speaker 1: coach and you're sitting up there at home on Saturdays

584
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: and you're watching another conference pull it off, how do

585
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: you look yourself in the mirror and tay, I'm in

586
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: a place right now that is as serious about competing

587
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: as any place in America. How do you look yourself

588
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: in the mirror and think that, How do you look

589
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror if you're a player and think

590
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: that These are very valid at least scenarios to me

591
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: if that were to happen now again, it could be.

592
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: And in fact, if you were placing odds, you'd probably

593
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: place majority odds on the other side, and the other

594
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: side says, oh, they probably won't get the season off

595
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: if they do. They definitely won't take it to the

596
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: wire and there won't be bowl games and conference championship games.

597
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: You may be right, you may be right, but they

598
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: are giving themselves every possible avenue to make it happen.

599
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: And so that, at least for me for the time being,

600
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: is good enough. That's acceptable. And again a quick reminder

601
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: as we shift gears here, I appreciate so much the

602
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: five star reviews. Please keep those cut. We are approaching

603
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: four hundred. We want to get to a thousand, and

604
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: then who knows beyond that? Now, a lot of you

605
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: I just assumed ignorantly. I assume that when I say stuff,

606
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: everyone just knows what I'm talking about. If you don't

607
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: know how the five star review works, it's an Apple

608
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: podcast thing. So if you're listening on Spotify, Android, just

609
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: ignore the next fifteen seconds. But if you are listening

610
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: on an iPhone or an Apple device, you go into

611
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Speaker 1: wherever you're listening to the podcast. So on the show's page,

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00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: scroll down. It may be a little ways, maybe a

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00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: long way, but scroll down and eventually you'll see the

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00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: review section and there are little stars that you can

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00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: rate there. I think it's the one furthest to the right,

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Speaker 1: click on that star furthest to the right the fifth star,

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Speaker 1: and that gives us a five star review. And also

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Speaker 1: you can write a review there, which I also appreciate,

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Speaker 1: and quite honestly, that's where I get a lot of

620
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Speaker 1: the question submissions for the Late Kick Extra podcast from.

621
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Speaker 1: So that's how that works. I had to explain that

622
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: to a relative of mine last week, so if they

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00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: don't know, I have to blindly assumed that some of

624
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: you may not know. But we appreciate it. We really

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00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: really thank you for that. It's given us a ton

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Speaker 1: of traction, it gotten some attention, and it's been noticed

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00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: by important people. So thank you, because you know, as

628
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: I write on your Christmas card every year, you're the

629
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Speaker 1: most important people. Oh, I feel like taking a shower now. Okay,

630
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: so let's move on and let's address some of the

631
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Speaker 1: questions that were non postponement centric, and a lot of

632
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Speaker 1: you wanted to know something that is purely embarrassing, but

633
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: I got to address it because I want to be

634
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: open with you. So Sunday Night Show was a total disaster.

635
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: Sunday Night as you remember, as you probably recall, it

636
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: was a very weird time. Already a lot of stuff

637
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: was happening. I mean, midday Sunday, we started to get

638
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: reports from various national entities that by week's end, the

639
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: entire season is going to be canceled, and again didn't

640
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: quite work out that way so far. Then again, we're

641
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: only halfway through the week, but it looks like some

642
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: of that did happen, partial truths in those predictions, and

643
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Speaker 1: so I figured, why have a normal Late Kick? We

644
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Speaker 1: could be just kind of talking into thin air, into

645
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: the wind, if you will, about predictions and depth charts

646
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: and all kind of stuff that may not matter because

647
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: teams that we're talking about may have their seasons canceled

648
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: during the show. So I head up Bud Elliott of

649
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: the Barton and Budd podcast, among other things that he

650
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: does here, and I said, hey, I never have guests

651
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: on Late Kick, never done it, I rarely will do it.

652
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: I just I've gotten abundantly clear feedback from you that

653
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: big ten terminology. The feedback from you has been abundantly

654
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: clear that you've told me what kind of show you want.

655
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: So I put together that kind of show for you.

656
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: But that was impossible Sunday, so I said, hey, let's

657
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: make an exception. Man, Let's just you and I essentially

658
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: do what we do in the editorial meetings on Zoom.

659
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Let's just publicize one of our editorial meetings and let's

660
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: talk through what we think is happening, what's the reality,

661
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: where do we think things are headed. Then Colin and

662
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: I director Colin got to the studio and realized when

663
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: we were doing our typical sound check and tech check

664
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: that sound was bad, tech check was bad, and so

665
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: it was one of those Brentwood we have a problem

666
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: type situations, which is just south of Nashville, that's where

667
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: our current studio is. And for the next hour and

668
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: a half, Colin, who is a wizard who knows every

669
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Speaker 1: button and there are thousands of them in that room

670
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: and what they do, has no clue what to do.

671
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: Every possible combination of buttons have been pressed and tried,

672
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Speaker 1: and we cannot get on the air. So we had

673
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Speaker 1: to delay it a little bit. Then we got an

674
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Speaker 1: engineer on board and he didn't know what to do,

675
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: so then we had to remotely wire in another engineer

676
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: and he didn't know what to do. And then finally

677
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Colin just takes a sledgehammer essentially to the board and

678
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: then okay, now it works. What in the world just happened.

679
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: Then we try and get buds Skype feed up, and

680
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: we couldn't get that up, and then we couldn't get

681
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Speaker 1: a reliable audio source in from his Skype feed. And

682
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: then we finally go on air right after I told

683
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: you in the live chat that at the shows can't

684
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: wait wait, wait, no, it's not no, it's not And

685
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: so then we got off the ground. But then we

686
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: constantly had issues with Bud's audio, and ninety nine percent

687
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: of you were very tolerant with it because you understood

688
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: things happen. This is a live show. This is the

689
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: price you pay for being live sometimes. And then there

690
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: were the one percent who said, why would you have

691
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: audio this bad? Well, you should have just taken him

692
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: by phone. Yeah, well, let me take you a little

693
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. In some worlds, you have line producers

694
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: and just little tech monkeys who are standing around waiting

695
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: for something to do. And you have an entire crew

696
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: back there and they are ready, willing and able to

697
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Speaker 1: make those adjustments on the fly. But right now there

698
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: are two people cleared to be in that building. I'm

699
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: one of them, and I'm sitting behind a microphone with

700
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: no power to do anything related to tech issues. And

701
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Collin's the other one who needs about five arms already

702
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: to control everything that he's having to control. In there,

703
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: there were no juments, guys. Apparently there were a lot

704
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: of folks far more well versed in producing shows than

705
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: me in the comment section. Now normally don't address this,

706
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: but I did want to humor you with it who

707
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: were calling the Mainly it was the Wyo you are,

708
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: your stupid crowd who were giving me all kinds of

709
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: advice and tips, and I appreciate it. And hey, for

710
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: those of you who did give me such tips and advice,

711
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: I just tell you apply it on your show. Good luck,

712
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: and apply it on your show, and when things go

713
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: off the rails, then I'll probably show up in your

714
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: comment section. But I'm not salty. Oh, don't think I

715
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: was mad, No, never, never, far be it for me

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Speaker 1: to be angry about it. I just I lost some

717
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Speaker 1: enamel on my teeth from grinding them a little bit.

718
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Speaker 1: But I'm not mad at it. That's not me. That's

719
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Speaker 1: not my style. All right, let's move on now that

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Speaker 1: we have that issue out of the way. We had

721
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Speaker 1: a question about Florida recruiting. And when I say a

722
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Speaker 1: question I made about thirty seven of you came in

723
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: because some things happened this week in Florida recruiting, big things,

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Speaker 1: very big. I was surprised by them. I got to

725
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Speaker 1: be blatantly honest with you. I was surprised by them,

726
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: but they happened. So Miami, we've talked about for about

727
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: three weeks now. Miami has had seemingly a ton of momentum,

728
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Speaker 1: and it's not just imagined. They verbally, I want to say, verbally,

729
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: landed James Williams, five star athlete out of South Florida.

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Speaker 1: They then a couple of weeks later landed verbally the

731
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Speaker 1: commitment of five star defensive tackle Leonard Taylor out of Miami.

732
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Speaker 1: And those were big gets. Again, the whole premise here

733
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Speaker 1: is no one is really capitalizing on keeping South Florida

734
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Speaker 1: and Florida talent home in state. So if it looked

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Speaker 1: like Miami was anywhere close to starting a snowball downhill

736
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Speaker 1: of doing that and catching some momentum, I was going

737
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: to talk about it, and I have been talking about it.

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Speaker 1: And so part of the counterpoint that was made to

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Speaker 1: me from some Florida fans. Was okay, but they suck

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00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: on the field still, and we're getting it done on

741
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: the field. So maybe we don't finish top five in recruiting,

742
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: but we've got the results on the field. And I

743
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: was very puzzled because I didn't voluntarily bring up the

744
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Florida and Miami comparison. I was just talking about Miami

745
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: and Florida fans popped in there. Now I appreciate the passion,

746
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: but they popped in there, so they were the impetus

747
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Speaker 1: for me saying a lot of things I said about

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Speaker 1: Miami not to go back down that road. Well, then

749
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Speaker 1: this happened. Jason Marshall, five star corner, also out of

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Speaker 1: South Florida, out of Miami, same high school down there.

751
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: A lot of these kids go to the same high school.

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00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: It was thought for a while that Alabama led for him,

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Speaker 1: and then it was thought when that momentum shift started

754
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: to happen collectively a couple of weeks ago, it was

755
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: thought that, ooh, Miami's making a move for him too,

756
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna get him to stay home. And then

757
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: there were a bunch of crystal ball shifts and then

758
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everyone in our industry thought Miami's

759
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: got this one. Manny Diaz tweeted out some not so

760
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: veiled hints and gifts that indicated, yeah, they probably got

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Speaker 1: his silent commitment. I heard that they had his silent commitment.

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Speaker 1: It's no secret a lot of people heard that, and

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Speaker 1: I think it happened. Well, imagine my surprise when a

764
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Speaker 1: few days later, when our eyes are totally off the ball,

765
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Speaker 1: we're looking at who's going to play college football this season,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I get a text from one

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Speaker 1: of our recruiting guys, Jason Marshall to Florida. And I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be completely honest with you what I thought

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Speaker 1: I was looking at on that screen. I was very preoccupied.

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Speaker 1: I looked at my screen. I thought, like, a twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two kid must have committed to Florida that may

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Speaker 1: be named Jason Marshall. But Jason Marshall's a common name,

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Speaker 1: so it certainly is not the one in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one cycle. There's no way. And an hour or

775
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Speaker 1: two went by and I was on Twitter and I

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Speaker 1: saw something that was related to that, and I said,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, wait, And then it also dawned on

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Speaker 1: me what the text message had said that I was sent,

779
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Speaker 1: And sure enough, I go back and look in Jason Marshall,

780
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Speaker 1: five star Corners South Florida has committed to the University

781
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: of Florida. And I was shocked. And so you got

782
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: to give credit where it's due. This is a massive

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Speaker 1: recruiting win. I would not argue back with you if

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Speaker 1: you told me this was the biggest recruiting win that

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Speaker 1: Dan Mullen has had to date. Here's how big it was,

786
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: and here's how big a shock it was. I was

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Speaker 1: over on the Swamp twenty four to seven message board.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you guys were shocked. A lot of

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00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: you guys were surprised at it. Normally, the hardcore recruiting

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Speaker 1: portions of the fan base, normally they have at least

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Speaker 1: an inkling's idea of what's coming a little bit before

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00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: even the other general hardcore recruiting public has not in

793
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: this case. So hat's off there. And it didn't stop

794
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: with Jason Marshall because a few days later, now this

795
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: one maybe not quite as big a bombshell surprise, but

796
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Speaker 1: Will Collier four star Safety out of South Florida still

797
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: a huge pickup. He verbally commits to Florida too. I

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00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: think it did it on CBSHQ. Actually he verbally commits

799
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: to Florida. And so all of a sudden, you go

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00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: from not only mildly demoderately criticizing that staff and hearing

801
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: Florida fans do the same, to saying, wait a second,

802
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: is dare I say, is this an actual hot streak

803
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: for Florida recruiting? Well, short answer, yes it is. Now

804
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I just wonder to myself, you always wonder are they

805
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna remain committed? I never speculate that a kid's commitment

806
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: is gonna be short lived. There's no there is no guidance.

807
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: There's no informed guidance that would suggest any of these

808
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: kids who commit are about to decommit. Could it happen? Yet?

809
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: Of course history tells us it could happen. But I'm

810
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and assume right now everyone who's committed

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Speaker 1: everywhere is gonna sign with that place until I have

812
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: information that suggests otherwise. And so right now, this is

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00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: really good for Florida. That's the obvious part. But then

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Speaker 1: here's what I wonder, the residue of these commitments, what

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Speaker 1: does it mean, does it impact other kids, Because the

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00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: way that momentum works in sports is overblown a lot

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00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: of times. I'm a believer you just keep playing the

818
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: next play and eventually you'll create momentum. Momentum is only

819
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: as big as the next play. But in recruiting a

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00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: little bit different. In recruiting, I value momentum a whole

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Speaker 1: whole lot. And so if Florida has it right now,

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Speaker 1: then what does that wave bring them? In addition to

823
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: Marshall and Collier? What else could it bring them? Which recruitments?

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00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: Could it get them involved in that Maybe, like Marshall,

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00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: we didn't really know that they were involved in nearly

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00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: to the degree that they were involved. Let me just

827
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: say that. So hats off to Dan Mullen and his staff.

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Speaker 1: Hats off to his staff. And now we kind of wait,

829
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Speaker 1: as we've been doing with a lot of this sport.

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00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: Right now, we wait and see what becomes of this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We've got plenty more questions to get to here. Wesley's

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00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: got a really good one Press conference stories. Oh, I've

833
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: got a good one for us. I gotta read. This

834
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: is one of the best kinds of stories. It's a

835
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: story where you can call one of your buddies out anonymously,

836
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: but yet enough people in your social circle know exactly

837
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: who you're talking about, where he'll still get made fun of,

838
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: and you, the listener, who couldn't care less who he is,

839
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: will get a good story. So stick around. We'll do

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Speaker 1: that right after the ad break. By the way, as

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Speaker 1: we move on here, quick reminder five star reviews. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to say that, but anytime I say

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00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: quick reminder is just instinct. Now. I told my mom

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Speaker 1: the other day, Hey, quick reminder, mom, five star review.

845
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Speaker 1: And I was actually asking her to pick up something

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Speaker 1: from the grocery store because I was back home, and

847
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: so a quick reminder. And here's what I was really

848
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: going to say. Not all the questions that were submitted

849
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: this week are being answered on this podcast. I still

850
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: have them. It's just with everything that's happening right now,

851
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: half of them have been deemed temporarily irrelevant because they

852
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: deal with a season that may or may not happen

853
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: in certain conferences. And then the other part is we

854
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 1: didn't have time. I'm going to get to all of them.

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00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't miss any of your questions. I see every

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00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: one of them. If I don't answer, it is genuinely

857
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: because I just missed him, which could happen. You know,

858
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: it's a department of one here when we do this podcast,

859
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: Tani notwithstanding now of course on the back end of it.

860
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: But as for aggregating your questions, that's a department of one.

861
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: So if you don't hear your question answered, I fear not.

862
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: We'll get to it in due time. However, I do

863
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: have one that I want to get to here. Wesley

864
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: asked me, is it true that a lot of reporters

865
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: are scared to ask Nick Saban questions at press conferences?

866
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: If so, do you have any stories on this? Yeah?

867
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: For some reason, Yeah, that is true, and yes I

868
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: do have a story. So let me talk about the

869
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: why first. The why is Nick Saban's not necessarily the

870
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: most jovial person in the world, but yet he's got

871
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: a really good sense of humor. If you're serious. Here's

872
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: the thing. You have to be serious for guys like

873
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: him to even entertain the idea of laughing with you

874
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: or laughing alongside you, etc. If you're a serious there's

875
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: nothing funny about that to someone like him. So what

876
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: happens in press settings with a guy like Nick Saban.

877
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: And I say a guy like him. There are very

878
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: few like him, But a guy like Nick Saban. You'll

879
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: get in these press settings and people will get called

880
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: on to ask questions, and they'll just ask terrible questions.

881
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: There's no other way around it. They'll ask some really

882
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: dumb stuff and he's not having it. And so the

883
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: only difference between Saban and a lot of other coaches

884
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: is some coaches may look at it and they may say, oh,

885
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the person who just asked this question,

886
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: So let me take it easy. Let me put my

887
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: kid gloves on here, let me respond, well, he doesn't,

888
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: you know. And to be honest with you, I think

889
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: that's a little bit a sign of respect in a

890
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: backhanded kind of way. It's a sign of respect to

891
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: you because if someone has deemed you qualified enough to

892
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: put you in a job where you can get credentialed

893
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: to an Alabama media event, you need to be able

894
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: to ask good questions. That's the bottom line. And if

895
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: you can't, then don't ask questions. But if we ask

896
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: a dumb one and someone calls you out on it,

897
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: that's not the worst thing in the world. Now I've

898
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: asked the guy many questions. We interviewed him for twenty

899
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: minutes a couple of months ago, and things were fine.

900
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: There was no intimidation. There's immense respect, don't get me wrong,

901
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: but there's no reason to be intimidated. It is just

902
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: a person talking to another person. So I've always enjoyed

903
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: my interaction with Nick Saban. I've never had that situation

904
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: happen between me and any coach ever, and I've been

905
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: in these settings for quite a while now. But see

906
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: the difference is if I don't have a good question

907
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: to ask, I just keep my mouth shut. And that

908
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: doesn't mean every time I ask a question it ends

909
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 1: up being good, but I can assure you it's well

910
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: thought out. And the way that I think is if

911
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm in a postgame press scenario, for example, I'm not

912
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: tasked with writing a postgame a gamer, a postgame column,

913
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: or a postgame recap. I'm there normally in TV roles,

914
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: and so I am gathering content instead of writing content,

915
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: But I ask questions. I think you're sitting there in

916
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: your car on the way home wanting to know that's

917
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: what I ask. I don't just sit there In two

918
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: hundred and three yards rushing tonight, talk about Jerry's performance.

919
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: That's not me. I understand why those questions are asked.

920
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: That's not me. So here's the story. The story. I

921
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: go back a couple of years. I've been fortunate enough

922
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: to be able to take folks to their first college

923
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: football games. And so I take a guy to his

924
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: first college football game in a media capacity, and it

925
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: was an Alabama game. So afterwards, I think it was

926
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: LSU at Alabama two thousand and seventeen, I want to say.

927
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: And Alabama wins that game, and we're in postgame press conference,

928
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 1: and this guy's in awe of the entire spectacle because

929
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: he's never been to a game there before, and so

930
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: he's sitting there and we were in the front row

931
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: of the postgame presser, and I will never forget it

932
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: he is. I don't think he blinked for like five minutes.

933
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: And he's sitting there watching Nick sabe and take these questions.

934
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: So Josh maxon the sid there at Alabama, what he'll

935
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: do is he'll have you raise your hand, and then

936
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: he'll take quick notes on a pad of paper and

937
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: he will remember who raised their hand, and you know,

938
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: he'll go in order. They'll take anywhere from five to

939
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: ten questions, and when it's your time to talk, he'll

940
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: point to you as they pass you a microphone. So

941
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: he gets in there, Here comes Nick Saban. Josh goes,

942
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: all right, raise your hand if you have a question, coach,

943
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: you'll get to you in just a second. And so

944
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: he writes the names down, and so a few minutes later,

945
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, they're working their way through the rotation and

946
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: we're sitting there on the front row and all of

947
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, Maxim points right at the dude with me,

948
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: who is about as equipped to ask Nick Saban a

949
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: question as my dog is, and he points right at him.

950
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave this guy's name anonymous, but he points

951
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: right at person X, and Person X is totally petrified.

952
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: If you've ever been driving down a county road late

953
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: at night and you have, I'm upon a deer in

954
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: the middle of the road, and you understand where the

955
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: phrase deer in headlights came from. If you've ever actually

956
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: seen a deer in your headlights, that was him. If

957
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: you haven't had it, but you saw that guy that day,

958
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: that's a deer in headlights. And fortunately for my friend

959
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: as one of the assistants there is walking towards him

960
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: with the microphone. They handed it to the person directly

961
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: to his right, But for about three or four seconds

962
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 1: of his life, he had no clue what was about

963
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: to happen. That was just the line in the sand,

964
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: and this is it. Everything has led to this moment

965
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: and then life's about to crash and burn. That's kind

966
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: of the effect in some of those press conferences. So, yeah,

967
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of fear for some reason, and

968
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: yeah there are some good stories. That's just one that

969
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: I was personally involved in. But let me tell you,

970
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: I've sat there and many a time listen to the

971
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: question be asked and then put my face in my hands,

972
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: knowing what's about to come, and nine times out of

973
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: ten you get exactly what you expect from the best

974
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: coach in the history of the sport as far as

975
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm concerned. Or we'll get to one more here, but

976
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: before I do that, I wanted to just kind of

977
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: give you a little heads up. I've got a meeting

978
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: about this actually Friday. Now, nothing's written in stone. If

979
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: it was, I would already tell you nothing's written in

980
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: stone yet. But we have some format changes that are

981
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: planned now. I have already told you that in a

982
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: perfect world, when we have a college football season, we

983
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: will do Latekick Live on the twenty four seven Sports

984
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, also available in the podcast feed, three nights

985
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: a week. We will do it Sunday night, Tuesday night,

986
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 1: and Thursday night. That's the way I did it before

987
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: I got to twenty four seven. That's the way I

988
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: prefer to do it here at twenty four to seven.

989
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: And of course those are made available via podcast the

990
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: next day. But if you want to catch them live

991
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel, subscribe please,

992
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: it's where you want to find those. Well, right now,

993
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: what you're seeing in your podcast feed if you're listening

994
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: to us here is you're seeing a Monday replay of

995
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: Late Kick Live from the previous night. Then you're getting

996
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra what you're listening to right now on Wednesday,

997
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: and then you're getting the replay of Thursday night's Late

998
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: Cake Live on Friday. So right now you got something Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

999
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: I won't go as far as to tell you exactly

1000
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: what we're planning. I will go as far as to

1001
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: tell you those of you who have demanded more content

1002
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: from us, will probably be very pleased with what we're planning.

1003
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: Let's just leave it at that and we'll move on here.

1004
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: There was a really good question here that I thought

1005
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: we could use to wrap us up, and a reminder again,

1006
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,479
Speaker 1: I'll get to all your questions. This is a very

1007
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: different Late Kick Extra this morning because of circumstances outside

1008
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: of our control, as they say, But this is a

1009
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: final one I wanted to get to here, and then

1010
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: I'll have a whole barrel full of questions for the

1011
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: next Late Kick Extra podcast. Who knows, I may answer

1012
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: some of these on an episode of Late CAK Live.

1013
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I do that pretty frequently, so if you don't hear

1014
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: your question answered on here, it may be that I

1015
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: answered it on one of the live shows. So Milan asks,

1016
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: it's been a while since a team who's head coach

1017
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: was the offensive play caller won a NASH Championship. The

1018
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: last one I can think of is Jimbo Fisher in

1019
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen with Florida State, So it rarely happens. Do

1020
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: you think teams having their head coach calling the plays

1021
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: are better or worse off as a result of this? Well,

1022
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: I certainly would not look at Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma

1023
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: and say, oh, Oklahoma struggling because Lincoln Riley's calling plays.

1024
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: So it's certainly a case by case, But I will

1025
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: say this my preference if I were a head coach today,

1026
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: or if I were an athletic director today, here's what

1027
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: my preference would be, and I would give myself flexibility

1028
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: to adjust as the situation warranted. My preference would be,

1029
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: let me go find a head coach who runs things

1030
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: like Nick Saban does, because Saban, to me is the

1031
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: perfect blend. Since we were just talking about him, Ed

1032
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: or Jeran's another example. Mac Brown at North Carolina. The

1033
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: way he's doing things right now is a good example

1034
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: of someone who is involved in every facet, but they

1035
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: don't on game day run either side of the ball.

1036
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: They're not calling the defense, they're not calling the offense.

1037
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: But they are driving the bus and they are delegating

1038
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: in other words, So they are a CEO type if

1039
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: you want to dumb it down to that level. And

1040
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: they got folks doing the roles that they're supposed to

1041
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: be doing, and they've assigned those roles YadA, YadA, YadA.

1042
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: Now the Saban approach is yet everything's delegated, but yet

1043
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: his hands are in pretty much everything. I don't know,

1044
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: now that I think about it. I don't know that

1045
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: I would look to duplicate that blueprint Number one, because

1046
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who lot of people who are qualified

1047
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: to pull it off. Number two, I don't know anyone

1048
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: who wants to work eight hundred and forty two hours

1049
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: a week in order to make that happen. But what

1050
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: I would like is I would like someone who knows

1051
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: the totality of a program. Because here's why. I think

1052
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: it's less likely to happen today, not impossible, but less

1053
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: likely for head coaches to be calling plays and winning

1054
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: championships than maybe a generation ago. I just think the

1055
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: overall job, title and roles of a head coach have

1056
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: increased to the point where you are spread so thin.

1057
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: You have so many responsibilities that to stay at the

1058
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: cutting edge, because you're not asking me to make a bowl,

1059
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: You're asking me to win championships. To stay at the

1060
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: cutting edge of calling a defensive game, calling an offensive

1061
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: game requires laser like focus on that craft, and I

1062
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 1: don't know how you pull it off. I really don't

1063
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: know how you pull it off and be a successful

1064
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: head coach in the other compartments that a head coach

1065
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: has to exist in. Fundraising, for example, is a compartment

1066
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: that's totally separate from football, the actual game of football,

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Speaker 1: now the sport, the industry of football. That's where it's included.

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Speaker 1: I remember when we interviewed Brian Kelly for Social Distance

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Speaker 1: a few months ago, and I was talking to him

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Speaker 1: before we started the interview. I said, Hey, what do

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Speaker 1: up a piece of paper and said, do you see this.

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Speaker 1: This list is a list of everyone I have to

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Speaker 1: call this morning and every group I have to speak

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Speaker 1: to this morning. And he wasn't saying it in a

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Speaker 1: woe is Me sort of way. I kind of mischaracterized

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Speaker 1: his tone there, But the point was I said back

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Speaker 1: to him, a lot of football on that sheet, and

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Speaker 1: he just rolled his eyes and said, Yep, you get it.

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Speaker 1: It's a whole lot of administrative work, and every head

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Speaker 1: coach has to do it, whether you're at Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: or Oklahoma or Georgia anywhere else, you gotta do it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it's impossible to stay on the

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Speaker 1: cutting edge I'm just saying I don't know how I

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Speaker 1: would pull it off and stay on the cutting edge

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Speaker 1: and fulfill all my other obligations. So because of that,

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Speaker 1: the approach that I would prefer is having a great

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Speaker 1: president type coach, a CEO type coach who wins, so

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Speaker 1: therefore he is good to work for also and can

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Speaker 1: attract the best coaching talent, just as he can attract

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Speaker 1: talent in recruiting. And that's how I run a successful

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Speaker 1: college football program or an organization, whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: call it. All right, still have a loaded inbox. I

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Speaker 1: haven't even come close to getting to all these questions,

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Speaker 1: and so we will get to those next week. Reminder

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Speaker 1: for a third and final time five star reviews, polease

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Speaker 1: and thank you, joshpaiit seven zero six at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: One way to get in touch with me follow me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Latekickjosh. Obviously now more than ever important

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Speaker 1: to be following on Twitter because something will probably happen

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Speaker 1: between the time I hit stop on this recording and

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Speaker 1: the time that you listen to this podcast. So at

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Speaker 1: Latekickjosh there, I also have my DMS wide open. I

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Speaker 1: have spoken to many of you this week actually on

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Speaker 1: there and I regularly communicate with you using that medium.

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Speaker 1: So until Thursday night when we air the next Latekick

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Speaker 1: live on the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: have a great week, have a safe week, take care

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Speaker 1: of yourselves and God bless