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The Car Doctor is in the garage 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: and ready to take your call. 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: You know, if everything had gone as planned, I'll use 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: Tom's line, I'd be now looking out over ten thousand horsepower, 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: eight miles of chrome, and enough polish paint to make 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: anybody smile and be proud. 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: You didn't tell me that Murphy was going to show up. 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Well, you know, and here we are in studio by 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: the way, folks. So if you're expecting to find us 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: at the PBA two eighty six car show up here 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: in West Milford, technically we were there about forty five 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: minutes ago, well maybe a little long, maybe about an 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: hour and twenty five minutes ago. And then at the 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: last minute, the thing that talks to the thing that 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: talks to the watching McCall it that makes us go 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: out on air, went see you, and Tom said, I 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: think we have to go, and I went, well, they 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: have little porta potties all the way, and he said, no, no, no, 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: we got to go. And you never saw two guys 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: pack up their stuff. And thank God for our support 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: staff today, kudos to them. We piled everything into two 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: cars and ran down Skyline Drive, which is basically you 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: start at the top of the hill and it's a 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: five mile straight drop. It's kind of like dead Man's Hill. 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: All right, and here we are and we're ready to go. 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: We're ready to do a live show and they'll give you, 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: guys what you need. It's just we're not at the 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: car show, which is a shame. It was a great show, 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: it really was. It looked great. You know, some of 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: the cars that I got a chance to see. There 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: was a seventy nine Volkswagon bus camper right, you know 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: to pop up roof. 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: Wait wit, they were still making those in seventy ninety yeah, 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: oh yeah. 47 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: And this guy, this thing was really cool. I was 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: going to interview this guy. It had it had the 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: Peace signed pillow on the back. It had like a 50 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: living room couch set up with the chairs that swiveled, 51 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: and a stove and a cook top and a refrigerator 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: and a Volkswagen. It was the neatest thing. I was 53 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: impressed by that. They had a Type three Volkswagen, which 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: is basically a it's a Volkswagen mini truck. Right. Volkswagons 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: were big at this show. It was it was crazy. 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: There was and I forget what it's called, but it 57 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: was a nineteen ninety one Z twenty eight road racer. 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 2: It was the equivalent of a Yanko Camaro factory race car. Modified. 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: They only made I think he said five hundred of them, 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: four hundred and ninety one. We're gonna do you. That 61 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: guy didn't get to it. So there was some really 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: neat stuff. And there was the usual combination of you know, 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: big block, this big block that and some. 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: Weird There were some really cool things around the back. 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: Just see the thirty eight I think it was the 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: Ford and the thirty nine Chevy. 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: Did you see the peach colored Willies? I saw that 68 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: thing is sharp. I think that's from the neighborhood around 69 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: the shop. I really do, because I've seen that car locally. 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: There can't be two of them. But I couldn't find 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: the owner. But unfortunately Tom called me a quarter to 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: twelve and said, uh oh, and I know what oh means. 73 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: And I ran back to the booth and Tom was 74 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: sitting there. And let me tell you something, folks, It's 75 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: not on Tom's shoulders in the In the thirty three 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: years i'm on radio, in the fifteen years with Tom, 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Tom has never failed to get me on the air. 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: And today the equipment just didn't cooperate. 79 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: Actually, it was more like the online application that would 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: have gotten us on the air, and it just did 81 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: not want to recognize the audio. 82 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, I can't wait to find 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: out what it is because we had a swivel at 84 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: the last minute. And you know, it's funny. That's what 85 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: order repair is about. We's a great segue. We had 86 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: a twenty fourteen Chevy Silverado pickup in the shop this week. 87 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: And maybe it's good we came back because I've been 88 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: dying to tell you this story. So we had a 89 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen Chevy Silverado in the shop this week, a 90 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: regular two door plane Jane Chevy pickup, eight foot bed, 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: four wheel drive. You know, they probably made two three 92 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: million of these things. I mean, how it's so common, right, 93 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: And we were doing axle bearings. We had to do 94 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: an axle bearing in the right rear. The axle seal 95 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: was actually leaking. When we took it apart, we could 96 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: see the bearing was beat up too, so we had 97 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: to change the bearing. Now, this model year, this generation 98 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: GM pickup truck mounts the tone ring for the ABS sensor, 99 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: which is a toothed collar on the inside of the bearing. 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: So if you were looking at this from the outside, 101 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: you've got a seal, you've got a bearing pressed into 102 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: the housing, and then after that, inside the housing, you've 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: got this toothed ring on a collar setup pressed into 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: the tube. So you can't use conventional bearing removal tools 105 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: because in the past, that bearing removal tool it's a 106 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: tilting head. It would slide in you'd pull it straight 107 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: and would lock in behind the bearing, but there isn't 108 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: enough room now to allow it to tilt and pull 109 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: straight because the abist tooth collar is in the way. Okay, 110 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: well you know, I guess I've never done one of 111 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: these because I didn't have the tool I could. I 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: have done you know, hundreds of axle bearings, but for 113 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: whatever reason, I hadn't done this particular setup. Wait, look 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: it up. We go through tooling. We need j DASH 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: forty five eight forty seven kent more special axle bearing pullar. 116 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. Great, let's go get one 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: of those. Well how much is that? Well that's six 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: hundred and that isn't even the painful part. The painful 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: part is that JA eighty five four to twenty seven 120 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: or whatever the part number is is on International outer 121 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Space intergalactic back order, like we might see it the 122 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: last week of December after Christmas. Well that's great, but 123 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: this is September and I've got this truck apart on 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: the lift. Thank god for Amazon. You know, in order repair, 125 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: you really have to swivel, you've got to be flexible, 126 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: you've got to be quick on your feet. I took 127 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: that JA eighty five number or that factory tool part number, 128 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: and I plugged it into Amazon. And you know, I know, 129 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: we all complain about Amazon, the big giant that's taken 130 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: over the world, the one that's you know, keeping people 131 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: from you know, shop local and all that. But sometimes 132 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 2: because I called on my local guys and nobody had anything, 133 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: and it turns out that, you know, what happened here 134 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: is is Amazon converted it to a cheap tool. I'm 135 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: not going to say it any other way. You know, 136 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: one of those cheap tools from China, right, those fifty 137 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: dollars toolkits, and that's literally what this was. It was 138 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: a fifty two dollars toolkit in a blow molded red 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: case with all the adapters. And Amazon said, well, this 140 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: has got a four and a half star rating. This 141 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: one's got a five star rating. But they were all 142 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: made that cheaper tooling quality from overseas. I didn't need 143 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: it to last, I needed it to work. Once I 144 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: ordered all three, I ordered the three possibilities. They were 145 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: all like fifty to fifty one fifty two. I spent 146 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty dollars to get three tools where 147 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: I'd have to spend six hundred to get one, knowing 148 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: that when I found the one that worked, if I 149 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: didn't damage the others, get them dirty, you know, muck 150 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: them up, mar them up, and so forth, I could 151 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: send them back. So I'm really spending fifty dollars to 152 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: get this truck off my lift, this bread and butter 153 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: Chevy pickup. And sure enough, with a little bit of 154 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: provocation and a little bit of heat, it worked. Auto 155 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: repairs about swivel and auto repairs about at the last minute, 156 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: the repair goes completely sideways, and you've got to figure 157 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: out how to get out of it. My youngest one 158 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: said to me, she said, Dad, you know what I 159 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: like about you the most. I said, what's that? She said, 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: you always think outside the box. And I really appreciated 161 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: that then and I appreciate it now. And her point was, 162 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: and she tells me all the time she goes, you're 163 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: never stymied. You're never stumped. She said. You may not 164 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: know the answer right away, but you keep looking and 165 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: you keep picking away at it until you get to 166 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: the point of solution. That's what we did today. That's 167 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: what we did Friday in the shop. You know it 168 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 2: was kind of It was kind of comical going back 169 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: to the car show story because remember that scene at 170 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: the end of The in Laws where Alan Arkins says 171 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: to Peter Falk standing and I'm dating myself. Old movie, right, 172 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: but you got to go see it. It's a great movie. 173 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: It's a funny movie. And Alan Arkin at the end, 174 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: they're blindfolded and their hands are tied behind their back 175 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: and are about to be shot by the firing squad 176 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: and Alan Arkin says, Okay, what's our next move? And 177 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: Peter Fowk's like, no, that's it. That's all I got. 178 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: Why what do you want to try? And he's like no, No, 179 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: that was me and Tom today. Tom's like we got 180 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: to go. We can't fix this. I'm like, no, Tom, 181 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: really tell me the truth, Like what are we gonna do? 182 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: There's there's got to be away, Like Tom, you're Tom Ray, 183 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: There's got to be a way to fix this. And 184 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: we just flew down Skyline Drive where if you know 185 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: Skyline Drive in West Milford. I do want to apologize 186 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: to that cop and Franklin Links because I went past 187 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: him full throttle, hammered down on the fifty five and 188 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: he just I think the look in my eyes. He 189 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: knew I was late getting somewhere, So I promise I'll 190 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: slow down next time. Anyway, let's pull over, take a pause. 191 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: We're going to come back and answer phone calls at 192 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: eight five five five six oh nine nine zero zero 193 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: again eight five five five six oh nine nine zero 194 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: zero to everybody up in Weston Milford at the PBA 195 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: two eighty six car show. We're sorry. We're gonna try 196 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: this again next year, we promise, but for now, we'll 197 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: be back right after this to answer your questions. Don't 198 00:09:54,600 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: go away. And of course, as bad as Tom and 199 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: I in company felt today when we couldn't stay for 200 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: the PBA two eighty six car show, there's Brad with 201 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: his BMW calling him from Florida. Because I kind of 202 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: know this story. I saw the email came across my 203 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: desk during the week. Brad, tell America what happened to 204 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: your BMW? Please welcome, Welcome, sir. 205 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having me. So I got tired 206 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: of the dealership old changes. So I went to a 207 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: couple group bonds and you named the shops. It doesn't 208 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: really matter, Valvelene, Jeffy, Lub etc. And one of them 209 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: stripped the drill pan. And when I took it to 210 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 4: a BMW specialist just for one of those typical oil changes, 211 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: he called me up and said, your prior guy stripped 212 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: the drill pin and we have to take the engine 213 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 4: out to replace the drill pan. And it's a BMW. 214 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: It's about a six thousand dollars charge, and we'll do 215 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: it for about four grand for you. Again, it's a 216 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: sixteen BMW, it's worth about twelve grands. Doesn't seem to 217 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: make sense to do that. 218 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: So why can't they hear? Why can't they healy coil it? 219 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that. I've asked a 220 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: couple of places and they've declined to do it. 221 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: I wonder why, you know, because when I saw the email, 222 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, did Jack call you? 223 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 5: Yes? 224 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, you know, I called. I called. I 225 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: called our BMW specialist here in the area, just to 226 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: get his two cents on it, and he said, let 227 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: me give the guy a call. And you know, his 228 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: comment was the same thought as mine, that why aren't 229 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: why isn't anybody lowering the cradle, supporting the engine and 230 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: lowering the cradle to this way the engine doesn't have 231 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: to be pulled. But you know, beyond that, the first 232 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: step would be, why aren't we why aren't we trying 233 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: to healy coil the pan? Is there a reason it's 234 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: an illuminum pan? Right? 235 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: Yes? And I don't know the answer to that. 236 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: If we can get clear access to it, you know, 237 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: if we can get clear access to it, a helly 238 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: coils as strong as anything else. We put helly coils, 239 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: A helly coil for everybody's information, it would look like 240 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: a spring and the outside of the spring would thread 241 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: into a threaded, pitched hole that would match the springs 242 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: outside diameter, but the inside would have matched the thread 243 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: pitch of the bolt or drain plug whatever we're screwing 244 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: into it. But we we healy coil cylinders, and you know, 245 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: spark plugs under compression and never an issue, So you know, 246 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: that would be that would be my question, of course. 247 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: My My other commentary is, you know, why aren't we 248 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: going back then? And I already know the answer, but 249 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: I just want to feel better saying it, why aren't 250 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: we going back to whoever stripped it? And saying, you know, 251 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: what are you going to do for me? You know, 252 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 2: it's it's you know, listen, and I'm not going to 253 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: lecture you bread. I feel your pain, but you've you've 254 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: learned the lesson, right, it's you get what you pay for. 255 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: It's I did, I did. 256 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's difficult. 257 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: It's a hard lesson. 258 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 259 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but again, it's a sixteen and it's not worth 260 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: a whole lot, and I don't really see the need 261 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: to put six grand into it. I'm trying to find 262 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: somebody to do the Healy coil the or a vacuum 263 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: oil change. I'm not sure you can do a vacuumle 264 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: change on this particular model. 265 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: Well, and you know, if you're doing a vacuum style 266 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: oil change, you're just you know, all, yeah, that's not 267 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: a sixty three Chevy Brother. You know, that's a BMW. 268 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: That's a rocket ship. That's you know, there's a lot. 269 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on there in terms of things 270 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: that oil does, variable valve, timing, and a bunch of 271 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: other things. And I would be more cautious and more 272 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: content to you know, is there a way to do 273 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: this more economically? Have you been to a BMW independent shop. 274 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: I've been to one, and I'm going to try another 275 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: one after this call. 276 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, why isn't this you know, a why 277 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: can't we healy coil this? And I think you have 278 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: to go at this with the approach of you know what, 279 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm looking for a bm I'm looking for a mechanic 280 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: from my BMW and and I know this is you 281 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: talking to them, and I know you hear this all 282 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: day long. I'm looking for somebody competent, not necessarily cheap, 283 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: but somebody competent, right, And that's what you are. You're 284 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's not that you dislike the dealer 285 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: because of what they are. You don't mind spending the money. 286 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: You just don't know if you're getting what you really need. 287 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement? 288 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: That's exactly why I didn't go there, exactly right. 289 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: It's it's there's no personal interconnection communication going on. It's 290 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: it's always in the back of your mind, do I 291 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: really need this? Am I being cheated? Am I? For 292 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: whatever reason? And I'm not picking on dealers. I think 293 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: there's good dealers, there's bad dealers. There's good independent shops, 294 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: there's bad independent shops. It's it's it's finding a mechanic 295 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: is probably you know, for most of us is a 296 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: very personal, you know, endeavor. It really is. You know, listen, 297 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: I go through it around the house. My garage door 298 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: broke at house. One of the garage doors broke at 299 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: the house over the weekend. The has a torsional spring, 300 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, the two springs that wind up. One of 301 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: the springs broke. So you know, I called and left 302 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: the message, Hey, you know, this is Ron. It's such 303 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: and such, and you've been here before. It's five years. 304 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: It's time to change the torsional spring. Whenever you can 305 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: get out here, I'd appreciate it, you know, And just 306 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: you know, just come on out. And I just and 307 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: I know they're going to call me up and explain, well, 308 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: you know we got to charge your service. Go yeah, great, 309 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: I don't care. Come out and fix my problem because 310 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: I need this spring. You guys have been here before. 311 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: We have a relationship, right, And I think that's what 312 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: we're looking for in Audo repair. We're looking for that. 313 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: I think some of us are looking for that relationship. 314 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: We're looking for that tell me what I need, not 315 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: what I want to hear. And and and this is 316 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: the expensive lesson because you know, I'm not going to 317 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: tell you. You know, you're out of your mind. You're taking 318 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: a groupon to take a BMW to a cheap oil 319 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: change place, and look what happened? Right? You already know this, 320 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: you know it's it's but you know, how do we 321 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: recover from it? And and my bigger concern would be 322 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: pulling the engine out of the eight year old BMW? 323 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: Do we put everything back? What do we have to 324 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: what do we bend, poke, prod twist? What doesn't go 325 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: back right? What doesn't sit right? Will it ever be right? 326 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: That hasn't crossed? I mean that has crossed my mind 327 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: as well, you know. 328 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: So can we helly coil it? Could we lower front suspension? 329 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: All right? And you're not gonna hold them responsible at 330 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: this At this point, it's almost like the car's mechanically 331 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: totaled until you solve this. And and you know, is 332 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: there a way to do that? The other option is 333 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: is there enough aluminum in the pan? And I trying 334 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: to remember what a sixteen looks like. They used to 335 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: make these transformer plugs. It would be an oversized plug 336 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: that would screw into the hole and cut its own thread, 337 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: and you would teflon seal them in place and then 338 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: it just had a ball valve literally like a like 339 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: a plumbing ball valve. You turn the spigot and out 340 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: it would come, or would have it would have another 341 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: bolt inside that it would be like an extension going 342 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: into the into the drain plug. Is that an option? 343 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: All right? I just I just kind of find it 344 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: hard to believe that it's got to be this six 345 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: to eight thousand dollars repair and there's no other course 346 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: of action. 347 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: So all right, that's been very helpful. I'll keep going 348 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 4: down this path and I'll let you know. 349 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: You let us know anytime. Brad, good luck to you. 350 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: That's horrible, right, And you can't just say, well, it's 351 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: a BMW. It is supposed to be expensive. Expensive is 352 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: one thing, Ridiculous is another. And you know, oh boy, 353 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero, 354 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: running any of the card doctor. I'll be back right 355 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: after this. Don't go anywhere right now? You mean, like 356 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: right now, let's go to Lynn, Delaware. 357 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: Lyn. 358 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the card doctor. How can I help? 359 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 5: Hey, thank you for taking my call. 360 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: You're welcome. What's going on? 361 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Oh I have a twenty nineteen convertible Ford Mustang. Okay, 362 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 5: I had sixty five thousand miles on it. Okay, and 363 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 5: I've been working on this for four months. I've had 364 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 5: like a white grayish uh smoke come out. Timing's off. 365 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: I got so you've got you've got a blown head. 366 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: You've got a blown head gasket, which is not complete. 367 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 5: I found out a diagnostic testing. They took pictures of it, 368 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 5: and they had a very detailed free page report at 369 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: the coolants going into the head gasket, well. 370 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: Head, the head gaskets blown and cool and is going into. 371 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 5: The engine apparently. So yeah, okay, and so I've been 372 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 5: doing research over the last four months. I found out 373 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 5: there's a lot of class action suits on Eco Boost. 374 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: That's what the main problem is. It's this particular engine, 375 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 5: the Eco Boost. It's expected Lincoln's four trucks, board Mustangs. 376 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: There's class action suits. There's no recall on any of 377 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: the vehicles. They don't have enough data or reports. I've 378 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 5: called corporate three times. I finally got a clean means number. 379 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 5: They will not reimburse me of the expense. It's going 380 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 5: to take place until there's a recall and then they'll 381 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 5: replace it. Okay, But in the meantime, I do have 382 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 5: it at a dealership. They had to tear the engine 383 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 5: apart to figure out what parts needs to be replaced. 384 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: But this is ridiculous, this show show here. 385 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: Let's let's cut to the chase. I would ask them, 386 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: why is it that on a Mustang it's not under 387 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: a recall an extended warranty, But this engine in an 388 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: escape is kind of the same problem on an escape. 389 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: Escapes went through this too, and I believe it was 390 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: the two three it was? It was it was the 391 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: one five if you go look up history on the 392 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: one five escapes of this generation and and the or 393 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: was that a two liter? Uh Escape? I'm trying to 394 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: remember now too, You're a two point three leader, correct, 395 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying to remember which engine? Yeah, I 396 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: think you have FO right, I believe you're a two 397 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: point three liter turbo. But my point is a lot 398 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: of this generation it wasn't just a Mustang. And the 399 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: reason I'm trying to steer you away from the Mustang 400 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: is because if we compare the number of Mustangs built 401 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: versus the number of Escapes built, Mustang is a much 402 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: smaller volume of built vehicles. So the pattern of failure 403 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: to create a recall is going to be smaller. But 404 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: if we look at if we look at the same 405 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: engine in the Escapes, the same family and generation of 406 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: engine in the Escapes, the proportion of failure is much 407 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: much higher. 408 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 5: Wow. 409 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: And we've had we've had more than a few customers 410 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 2: in the shop that have had the head gasket failure. 411 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: And the problem was it was porosity and the casting 412 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: of the cylinder head. As I understand, it created a 413 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: defective head and it didn't clamp the gasket correctly and 414 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: it caused the gasket to blow and leak cooling. 415 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 5: So so my question to them was, if I side 416 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 5: it's cheaper to put a new engine in and buy 417 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 5: another car because the cars in pristine. 418 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: Addition, but it's ten grands for an engine, right, same 419 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: engine in. It's ten grands for an engine right right? 420 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 5: Seriously, But I was like, are you putting the same 421 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 5: engine in? Yeah, the same ecopies, And and I said, 422 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 5: did you repair that fix this situation? And they're like, 423 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 5: you might want to google that and find that out. 424 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 5: Nobody ever asked us that, Yeah. 425 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: That's you know what that that that means you're dealing 426 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: with a bunch of dumbells. That don't want to know 427 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: the answers. Kid, Yeah, my friend, Yeah, listen, I you know, 428 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: you know why I'm here after thirty three years, Lend, 429 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: because I'm the only one that's not afraid to call 430 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: it like I say it. I would have been a 431 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: great I would have been a great baseball umpire. 432 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 5: You know, is this the beginning of a new you're 433 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: my new best friend? 434 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: Well it could have, you know, but you know and 435 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: now and now you know what? And now we're going 436 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: to play the game, right, you and I are going 437 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: to play the game, because if we were standing in 438 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: the shop, we'd be playing what what, what next? What if? 439 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: And what color? All right? What next is? What next? 440 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: Is what happens if? And then it leads into what 441 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: if if we put the engine in? What if the 442 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: turbo charger fails? And that's another six grand? 443 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, what's my warranty? What's my How many miles 444 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 5: am I going to get out of there? 445 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: Well, they'll warrantye the engine. They'll warrantye the engine. They're 446 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: not going to warrantye any any of the rest of it. 447 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: Part of the problem here, Lynn, I already know what 448 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: part of the problem is. All right, is it's a 449 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 2: convertible and you love the convertible, right. 450 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's about my fifth one. 451 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: Right, yep, you're a free spirit. You like that top down, 452 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: wind in your face and hair thing. You got that. 453 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 5: Oh and guess what, my my vanity tiger is. 454 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: Right? I could, I could see it. 455 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 5: You can tell that I freebird? 456 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: Here, I can, I can, I can. I can see it. 457 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: I can see it from here. And I'm in New Jersey, 458 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: all right, I'm three states away. You know. 459 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 6: It's well, you see, I consider I consider Central Jersey 460 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 6: and South Jersey state, so technically I'm three states away. 461 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. So so the question becomes, before we dump a 462 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: bunch of money into this, do we buy something newer 463 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: with less miles and call this the loss? That it is? Right? 464 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: And that's the question only Lynn can answer because only 465 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: Lynn knows what her budget is. And that's that's the truth, right, 466 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: It's this This was a chronic problem. Listen, full disclosure. 467 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: And for all my Ford dealers out there that advertise 468 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: on all the affiliates that carry this show, I think 469 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: Ford has a really decent product in certain aspects. I 470 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: think they've got their headaches, like the rest of the 471 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: car companies, and this particular generation of engine is a headache. 472 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: It just is. Head gasket failures are not uncommon, and 473 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: turbo chargers are not onc And now you know, we 474 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: need to have a conversation about you know, quality of 475 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: oil change, frequency of oil change, regular maintenance, fuel system 476 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: cleaning and all that. 477 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 5: I have it all backed. 478 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: Up, and none of that, None of that would have 479 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: prevented the head gas get failure. Because it seems like 480 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: if one of these things is going to have a stroke, 481 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: it's going to have a stroke, no matter how many 482 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: times it goes to the gym. But once you get 483 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: past that, it's the regular maintenance that keeps it going longer. 484 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: The question for you is this is now a six 485 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: almost seven year old vehicle, and you're not putting an 486 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: engine into this car to drive it another year. You're 487 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: putting an engine into this car to drive it another 488 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: five years, hopefully, And what if saying here's where what 489 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: if comes in? What if the turbo fails, what if 490 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: the transmission fails? And before before we spend this kind 491 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: of money, all right, you got to play what color 492 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: Pick a different color car, pick the same color car. 493 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 2: Can you go buy this car two or three years newer, 494 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 2: and what will that cost? What is this car worth? 495 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: What will that new car cost? What are you getting? 496 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: I'd like to think that if you bought something two 497 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: years newer or three years newer, you're getting a car 498 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: with half the mileage and some sort of extended warranty 499 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: for five years. Maybe we could put that on there 500 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: and get some sort of powertrain coverage. 501 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: Right, it's tonight. Can I interrupt you for a anytime 502 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: you want to? Ford, who I was dealing with in 503 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: the service department, made me aware that he found a 504 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 5: program from Ford that will cover half of the costs. Okay, 505 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: so I like that idea, but I had they then 506 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 5: they called me back and said that they have to 507 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 5: tear the engine apart before they can approach Ford with 508 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 5: the situation. I don't know. As much research as as 509 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 5: I've done, I've never found anything like that. Maybe you 510 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 5: have to be inside the corporation to know that that's available. 511 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there. Well, the reason is is because Ford 512 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: is likely asking them, okay, what was the point of failure? 513 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: All right? They want to see proof, They want to 514 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: see pictures, They want to see the porosity of the casting, 515 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: they want to see that textbook picture of how the 516 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: head gas get failed. I think the question is, and 517 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: I like what I'm hearing that the dealer's doing. The 518 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 2: dealer's trying to their credit, right, I think you got 519 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: to have that conversation at their elbow with them and say, listen, 520 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: if we take the engine apart and I get it, 521 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: that's five hundred dollars I'm risking. And I turn around 522 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: and I say, no, I don't want to fix this. 523 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: What will this car be worth? And what else do 524 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: you have that I can buy as a used car 525 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: CPO certified, pre owned, two years old, three years old, 526 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: thirty thousand miles on it? What does that warranty look like? 527 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: What do those numbers look like? And if all that 528 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: makes sense, and they're willing to say, well, you know, Lynn, 529 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: if we take it apart and you don't want to 530 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: fix it, and we buy another car from you, it's 531 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: going to cost you this and this, and you can 532 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: make the numbers work, then you got somebody that's working 533 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: with you, and you can ask for more than that 534 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: in this day and age. 535 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I got slim pickens, right. 536 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: So, but I mean that's Yeah, there's lots of way. 537 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: This isn't just. This just isn't just. You know, Yeah, 538 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: it's broke. How do I fix it? And what do 539 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: I do? There's a lot of what is, what color 540 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: and what's next to deal with? So go have some talks, 541 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: Go have some conversations, bring them coffee and donuts, and 542 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: that'll be your Monday Tuesday project. You give me a 543 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: call back, let me know what happens. Good luck to you, kiddo. 544 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: I'm running ENnie in the car doctor. We are back 545 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: right after this. Don't go away. Hey, let's go to 546 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: Matt and Michigan. Matt, you're on with Ronannie in the 547 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: car doctor at eight five five five six zero nine 548 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: nine zero zero. How can I help? 549 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 5: Matt? 550 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: Oh Man not man? 551 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, who's Thiste Pete? Let's talk to Pete Pete 552 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: in Michigan. Do we have the state right? Yeah? 553 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 7: We do had the state right? 554 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: One out of two ain't bad, brother, So what's what's 555 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: going on? How can I help? 556 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 7: First off, you know, I'm sixty one. You think i'd 557 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 7: have life figured out, But Ron, you set me right 558 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 7: with my two thousand and three Cadillac when you said 559 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 7: by my window regulator wasn't the problem. It was a 560 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 7: wiring problem. 561 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: I got it was well, once in a while, I 562 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: get it right. That's why they let me do this. 563 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: Honest you think, yeah, probably, So it's you know, listen, 564 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: there's there's there's just sometimes you just you get you 565 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: get lucky, you know, right, some day the Mets are 566 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: going to return to the wheel series. Probably not in 567 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: my lifetime, but some days you never know what could happen. 568 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: So how can I how can I help you today? Buddy? 569 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 7: Okay, well, I know this is going to be a shock, 570 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 7: but my two thousand and three Cadillac has a oil leak. 571 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 7: Only one, no several, but okay, we're going to concentrate 572 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 7: on just one. 573 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: Well wait, wait, do we really want to fix this? 574 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: Pee? 575 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: You know, if we having an oil leak on an 576 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: older car is a good thing until it hits the 577 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: rear bumper. It's just like built in rustproofing. The car 578 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: will never rode away. So you know, I consider that, 579 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: I know, but it's you know, the cleanup in the garage. 580 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 7: That's the only problem. I love the fact that the 581 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 7: oil resecles itself awesome. 582 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: But so you can't get the drain plugs out. You 583 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: can't get the bolts out for the pan or what. 584 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 7: No, here's the thing is that I was under it. Well, 585 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 7: the radiators blown out and I'm going to replace that. 586 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 7: But the thing is is that I was underneath the 587 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 7: car and I said, you know what, maybe the oil 588 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 7: pan gasket just needs to be retorted back to the 589 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 7: eighteen foot pounds. And so I got my torque fringe 590 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 7: under there. I want to go and park it, and 591 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 7: it just kept going. 592 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, this is not good. 593 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh you mean the ults a stripped? 594 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 7: Yeah? Is there a wait? I can do oversize bolts. 595 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: Well, if you, if you, if you, if you've got 596 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to get it up in the air 597 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 2: on a lift. You need full height, all right, you 598 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: can't do it's it's kind of hard to do this 599 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: on the ground, all right, And you're gonna have to 600 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: pull the pan down, which I believe you have access 601 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: to do that. And then that is that is an 602 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: aluminum block or a cast iron block. 603 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 7: Everything is illuminous. 604 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: I thought it was alumininum. You're gonna heally coil it, 605 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: but you got to have a clear shot and you've 606 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: got to have a good steady eye and a good 607 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: steady hand. 608 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 7: So I got to pull everything else to do the heating. Clue, 609 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 7: there's not like shelf snapping. I just put into it. 610 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: Well, they've got to remember, if I listen, you can 611 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: you can hack it up any way you want, all right, 612 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean you can try, but chances are remember if 613 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: you have to put a bolt through, that's so course 614 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: to bite into the block, that's bigger than the stripped 615 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: threads in the block. That means it's gonna be bigger 616 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: than a hole in the oil pan itself. So you're gonna, 617 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: you know, snocker that up and then you're gonna make 618 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: the problem worse. 619 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 7: So you're just breaking my heart round No. 620 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: Listen, brother, I'm here to tell you what you need 621 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: to know and not what you want to hear. All right, 622 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: this is it's you know what, and it's just it's 623 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: just the way it is. These are life lessons. So 624 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: God is tempering the steal. Remember that. Look, it's it's 625 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: it's got to be you. I'm just trying to, you know, 626 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: save it from yourself, because you're the guy driving the 627 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: O three Cadillact, which isn't exactly a car from yesterday. 628 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: So the only way I know of is a Healey 629 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: coil setup, and you could maybe try a longer bolt. 630 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: Where does that whole bottom versus the length of the 631 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: bolt that's in there, would a slightly longer bolt be 632 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: able to grab some threads that are up in the block. 633 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: I would take a blowgun and clear it out with 634 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: clear out whatever you know, dirt and air and debris 635 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: is in there, clean it out and just gently snug 636 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: it up. Chances are that's not gonna fix your oil 637 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: leak anywhere because it's an O three cadillact that was 638 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. They never rusted, but they always leaked. 639 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: So good luck to you, Pete, and I was always 640 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: a fun time to talk to you. You'd be well 641 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: eight hundred, I'm sorry, eight hundred. I do that a lot, 642 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: eight five, five, six, nine nine zero zero. Let's take 643 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: them back to another time. I'm running Ady and the 644 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. Some closing 645 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: thoughts for this hour. Had we been at the car 646 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: show and managed to stay the whole the whole day, 647 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: one of the things I was talking to the people 648 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: that came up to us, and we're again, we're just 649 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: so kind of bummed out because it was such a 650 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: connection with the crowd, just a great crowd up there 651 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: at the PBA two eighty six car show in West 652 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: Milford at the Wallace Homestead. And we're coming back next year, 653 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: we promised. Tom and I are already making plans for 654 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: the backup to the backup to the backup option. Automobiles 655 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: are a microcosm of history, and it's really that's really 656 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: what you're seeing when you go to a car show, 657 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: and this show was no exception because they had everything 658 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: from brand new just off the showroom flour corvettes to 659 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: stuff pre war. There was a couple of pre war 660 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: cars there. And you look at the manufacturing processes, you 661 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: start to think about all the little clips and bolts 662 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: and screws, and the way vehicles were manufactured almost eighty 663 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: years ago versus today, and how today everything is injection 664 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: molded and blow molded and you know, plastic pressed, and 665 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: such a microcosm of history of manufacturing and the way 666 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: the country was run and operated, and it's just neat 667 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: to look back. Cars are more than just cars. Some 668 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: cars are like well time machines because they take you back, 669 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: and that's what it's all about. It's been a pleasure 670 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: this hour, as always till the next time. I'm Ronning 671 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: Ay and the Car Doctor, and I'm reminding you good 672 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you