Speaker 1: Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.
Speaker 2: We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the
Speaker 2: vicious felonies.
Speaker 3: These episodes are based on. These are our stories.
Speaker 4: Done done.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's messed up? An SVU podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Lisa and I'm Kara, And every week on this podcast,
Speaker 1: we recap a episode of Law and Order SVU. We
Speaker 1: an episode of Lord Order sv You excuse me, and
Speaker 1: we do when something starts with a with a value,
Speaker 1: but they are episode two. Listen to listen. Somebody could
Speaker 1: be starting today and I don't want them to think
Speaker 1: I have bad grammar. But we recap an episode. We
Speaker 1: talk about the crying, We interview guests. It's fun, and
Speaker 1: we chat about nonsense up top and we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: doing it no matter what anybody says.
Speaker 2: Well, no, they like it. Most people like it. We
Speaker 2: can't focus on the ones that ate it. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 2: did I puke this morning?
Speaker 4: Yet?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what happened? I party too hard? I
Speaker 3: party too hard. I'm an old old man and I forgot.
Speaker 2: My friend Marie had a birthday party and it was
Speaker 2: music video themed.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So it was dressed like a music video, what you
Speaker 2: would wear for your music video or like turn out basically,
Speaker 2: and then the DJ played all the songs of like
Speaker 2: what we all dressed up as, so everyone got to
Speaker 2: go in the middle.
Speaker 3: And like have a moment. What did you do?
Speaker 2: I did baby one more time, Brittany, and there was
Speaker 2: another person, so I was like annoyed, but then we
Speaker 2: had fun with each other. And then there was another Brittany.
Speaker 2: Matteo was upstated it again, Brittany the best I would say,
Speaker 2: did he wear like a red yat suit?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What else? God?
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess there is also the white outfit,
Speaker 2: but yeah, definitely, yeah, the red. There was a j Lo,
Speaker 2: there was a Nelly, There was Mulan Rouge, and there
Speaker 2: was an Andre three thousand. Oh wow, I would say
Speaker 2: those are the people that turned up and turned Nelly
Speaker 2: was there lol.
Speaker 3: But yeah it was fun.
Speaker 2: But I had Oh it was an open bar and
Speaker 2: I had Vaka soda after a vodka soda after a
Speaker 2: vodka soda.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Those open bars will get you. Those open bars
Speaker 3: will do really well. It was dance floor. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had a great time dancing. The photos are good.
Speaker 2: You'll see some, but I definitely had about like a
Speaker 2: two hour rough window. Oh, a two hour roughs and
Speaker 2: then to make up and have to do rape research.
Speaker 3: It's like it's a nightmare. You know, it's tough.
Speaker 2: I'm like huking and looking up the sentence of a
Speaker 2: rapist like it's wild morning. But I'm here, I'm here,
Speaker 2: I'm a professional. Thank god, this isn't a video. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you that much.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 1: How was your birthday? Happy birthday? Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: It was great. I actually had a great day. It
Speaker 1: was really nice. Like I took Oscar to ballet. He
Speaker 1: did the class this time, Happy birthday to me.
Speaker 3: It was so cute. He like actually did the lesson.
Speaker 1: Then I took my kids out to lunch with my husband,
Speaker 1: which was a nightmare and I shouldn't have done it.
Speaker 3: You'll go, and why was it a nightmare?
Speaker 1: We just went to Jane like, you know, like a
Speaker 1: cute little place up the street from me, and they
Speaker 1: just you can't pay attention to one without the other
Speaker 1: one doing something to totally. Like You'll just be like, hey, Oscar,
Speaker 1: can I cut this for you? And then you look
Speaker 1: over and Rosie's like I'm gonna drink this chilula, Like
Speaker 1: they're just doing stuff to get attention constantly, and they
Speaker 1: were just driving me crazy at lunch.
Speaker 3: But then I went to a pool with.
Speaker 1: My friend and had a nice little day at a
Speaker 1: pool downtown and that was fun. And then I had
Speaker 1: a little birthday party at a bar on near me
Speaker 1: and Jared got these delicious little bunt cape cupcakes from
Speaker 1: someplace called like simply Bunt or something like that, and
Speaker 1: they were delicious, and.
Speaker 3: I wonder who gave him the bunt clue.
Speaker 1: I asked him and he said he like googled around
Speaker 1: and he liked it that they had seasonal flavors.
Speaker 3: I was like, this feels like you got it from
Speaker 3: one of my friends. But whatever, But it was.
Speaker 1: Really fun and like a bunch of people came out,
Speaker 1: and uh, it was just like a nice, a nice day.
Speaker 1: I had like just enough time with my family and
Speaker 1: not with my family, but I got a lot of
Speaker 1: nice messages from people, and including one from your best friend,
Speaker 1: which is my favorite birthday message that I got the
Speaker 1: entire day. Okay, so a few years ago, you guys
Speaker 1: gave me this like tabletop s'mores oven essentially not like
Speaker 1: oven it's like a little pit. It's like a mini
Speaker 1: barbecue pit that is like the like I would say,
Speaker 1: a foot line or maybe fourteen inches long and three
Speaker 1: inches wide, and it's just like very heavy stone and
Speaker 1: you can like kind of put it anywhere, and then
Speaker 1: you put this like cotton thing inside of it that
Speaker 1: you soak in like a special lighter fluid that comes
Speaker 1: with the gift. And then it came with these little
Speaker 1: tongs and you can like make a not tongs skewers,
Speaker 1: and you can make s'mores and stuff. I've done it
Speaker 1: with my kids a bunch of times. We love it.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows I love smores. It was a great gift.
Speaker 1: So she sends me Happy Birthday with a RuPaul gift,
Speaker 1: and then underneath it goes also the fire pit we
Speaker 1: sent you was recalled, so stop using it if you are,
Speaker 1: and then sends me a screenshot of the email and
Speaker 1: it says, I don't.
Speaker 3: Care about the refund, just sharing the warning this. I
Speaker 3: was like, Julia, this is the best. This is the
Speaker 3: best text message I got all day. My god.
Speaker 1: Not a reco not a recall, not a not a
Speaker 1: It's like, first of all, if you bought a tabletop
Speaker 1: barbecue pit, thinking this is gonna be safe for anyone.
Speaker 3: You're the idiot, like like it should have come originally
Speaker 3: with a recall, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 3: it's a dangerous item.
Speaker 1: Every time I use it, Jared's always like, these kids
Speaker 1: are gonna fucking catch on fire because it's just little
Speaker 1: and we're like on the front porch doing marshmallows. Also
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, is this real fire or is
Speaker 1: this just like some kind of chemical burning off.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I will continue to use it despite the recall. Mark
Speaker 1: my words.
Speaker 3: These might be my this might be my last podcast.
Speaker 3: But it was really funny.
Speaker 1: But I got a lot of funny voice notes and
Speaker 1: messages and I had a nice day. And another day
Speaker 1: another year, you know, another birthday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at high Planes and Denver on the
Speaker 2: weekend of your birth and it was pretty fun.
Speaker 3: I did. This is a little bit of a brag,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 2: But I'm like walking down the street and this like
Speaker 2: super gothic emo girl kind of steps in front of me,
Speaker 2: and like Jared's next to me, gold Stead, But this
Speaker 2: girl just like puts her hands together and bows, so
Speaker 2: she like puts her hands like this and bows at
Speaker 2: me and Jared goes did that girl just bow at you?
Speaker 2: I think she did. And it's like to impress the goth,
Speaker 2: you know, it takes a lot. It takes a lot
Speaker 2: to have a goth bow down out of the blue.
Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe it. Oh my god, that's really funny.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Oh.
Speaker 1: And then Sunday after my birthday, I got to wake
Speaker 1: up early and take Oscar to a special screening of
Speaker 1: The Gabby's Dollhouse.
Speaker 2: Okay, we got to actually saw the trailer. I can't
Speaker 2: believe it didn't bring up to you sooner. Obviously, I
Speaker 2: thought of you guys, how did he feel?
Speaker 1: I mean, Oscar's been to many many movies with me before,
Speaker 1: and he sits through a lot of a movie for
Speaker 1: how young he is. But like he did not get
Speaker 1: up once. He was so wrapped. He was literally staring
Speaker 1: the whole time. I like, it's his favorite show. And
Speaker 1: it's funny because like the week before he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go I don't want to go to
Speaker 1: the Gabby. I was like, why, it's like your favorite
Speaker 1: fucking show. You're so weird. But I think he just
Speaker 1: does things to be contrarian like his dad. But he
Speaker 1: was upset, Like you got there because it was a screening,
Speaker 1: they gave out like little Gabby ears. He got like
Speaker 1: Gabby swag after it was like free popcorn. Like he
Speaker 1: was like so like literally entranced by the movie the
Speaker 1: entire time, which is funny because the show is like basically,
Speaker 1: if you've never seen it, which I don't know why
Speaker 1: you would have seen, it, is like three minutes of
Speaker 1: live action at the beginning, and then the girl shrinks
Speaker 1: down and goes into her dollhouse, and the rest of
Speaker 1: the time it's it's it's a cartoon. But in the
Speaker 1: movie there's a whole much more live action. Gloria Stefan
Speaker 1: plays her grandma. She's going to visit her grandma and
Speaker 1: Kat Francisco, and then Kristin Wig is this villain who
Speaker 1: like steals her dollhouse, and there's like most of the
Speaker 1: movie takes place either in animated world or in Kristin
Speaker 1: Wiggs like art deco mansion that she lives in.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I was watching the trailer Someone's laptop at
Speaker 2: the cellar one night.
Speaker 3: We were like, I don't know, this sounds kind of sad.
Speaker 2: We were just last and we were both just watching
Speaker 2: tailors for like a half hour, and that one came
Speaker 2: on and he's like, why would you become a cartoon
Speaker 2: to solve Chris He's like, why is she shrinking? Like
Speaker 2: she's a giant woman like a person. And then she's like,
Speaker 2: let's get tiny and fake to help the cry or like.
Speaker 3: There's no crime. I mean, like there is in the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in the movie there is.
Speaker 1: But in the show, she just gets tiny so she
Speaker 1: can play with her gabby cats, and then when it disappears,
Speaker 1: she has to get tiny so she can find them,
Speaker 1: like she has to like get tiny, and like, okay,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of really.
Speaker 3: Cute, catchy music in it.
Speaker 1: They also like licensed songs like Appeta, you know, like
Speaker 1: they got good. They got good kid friendly music and stuff.
Speaker 1: And and honestly, there were a bunch of pars where
Speaker 1: I laughed, where obviously Oscar wasn't laughing because they put
Speaker 1: in some jokes for the adults and Christian Wiggs really funny.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, you know, if you like Kristin Wig,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a painful movie to take
Speaker 1: your kids.
Speaker 3: She's really funny.
Speaker 1: I will say she is channeling Moira Rose from Shit's
Speaker 1: Creek a lot in this, Like she very much is
Speaker 1: giving me Moira Rose like the entire time. But she's
Speaker 1: so funny and it's like a cute. I like her
Speaker 1: as a villain because I liked her in Barbin Star. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like her as the villa. Well, I just like
Speaker 1: her overall. But I was looking for something. So I
Speaker 1: found like, you know, a color, not a collash, a
Speaker 1: carousel on my Instagram and it was really good advice
Speaker 1: and I was like reading it, being like this is good, helpful,
Speaker 1: and then I realized it was a parenting thing and
Speaker 1: how to talk to your children. Listen, I think all
Speaker 1: like ninety nine percent of the world's problems are about communication,
Speaker 1: and I think, how to talk to your kids, how
Speaker 1: to talk to other people, that's everything.
Speaker 2: But it was like it was for your kid. But
Speaker 2: it was like, even if you don't want to wake
Speaker 2: up in the morning, you can still open the shades.
Speaker 2: And I went, that's a good one. But I guess
Speaker 2: that's what to tell like a child that's pissed.
Speaker 1: Oh, Like I just learned this like little parenting tip
Speaker 1: that's like when your kid is whining being like I
Speaker 1: want water you instead of going okay, let me get
Speaker 1: you what you go and like like you just respond
Speaker 1: with and and then the kid has to think like, okay,
Speaker 1: what is the solution? And so it's like I'm listening
Speaker 1: to you, but I'm not just like immediately getting you
Speaker 1: your water model or like the thing that you're whining about.
Speaker 1: So it's sort of like I feel like what I
Speaker 1: I sometimes do that with adults where they'll be like
Speaker 1: and I'll be like okay, and like what's the what?
Speaker 3: What do what do we think?
Speaker 2: Like I kind of snapped at someone on a six
Speaker 2: thirty AM flight because she I always sit in the aisle,
Speaker 2: but I forgot that I was in windows. So I
Speaker 2: was sitting in the aisle and she pointed at me, and
Speaker 2: I go, oh, my bad. So I go uh to
Speaker 2: the window. But I put my backpack on the middle
Speaker 2: seat and then she's just looking at me and I'm
Speaker 2: looking back at her and she's smiling at me, and
Speaker 2: I go what and she goes and she pointed. She's
Speaker 2: like I'm in the middle, and it's like okay, like
Speaker 2: use your words, use your words. I kind of rolled
Speaker 2: my end and she's like, oh, you could take your time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, just shut up, it's fucking early. But then
Speaker 2: I knew she's a sick bitch because TV screen off,
Speaker 2: no earbuds in, face forward, like she raw dog to
Speaker 2: the flight.
Speaker 1: Awake, sitting forward, yeah, eyes open. Yeah what are you
Speaker 1: doing being a sick bitch?
Speaker 3: You know? Yeah? Well well what well what?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I started watching Dexter and yeah, it's bringing
Speaker 1: me back. I'm loving I mean the beginning with like
Speaker 1: he's in the coma or whatever and he's like meeting
Speaker 1: all the old characters. I was like, this is so
Speaker 1: funny because it's like, well, we couldn't get Deb, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know these like the Trinity Killer.
Speaker 3: Was available, you know, like let got was available and don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say I think Deb was the ghost
Speaker 2: for New Blood and I think people didn't like it.
Speaker 3: Oh wait was the actress back that played Deb. Yeah?
Speaker 2: Deb was a ghost and she was like mean to
Speaker 2: Decks the whole time. She was like you, but he's
Speaker 2: you know, he's the reason she's dead. I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, Deb is an annoying character. Like
Speaker 2: when I watched Dexter, I thought Deb was very annoying.
Speaker 2: I did to the first time of the seconds. I
Speaker 2: love Deb. I really loved Deb, and she did get
Speaker 2: the short end of the stick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, my sister and I would always just be like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck decks, like we were just like her.
Speaker 3: Her whole like vibe was just like so aggressive.
Speaker 2: I do want to know the inspo for her, Like,
Speaker 2: who is this foul mouthed woman that they like inspired
Speaker 2: this character?
Speaker 3: I'm curious about that interesting.
Speaker 2: We have to because when he says that Rita is pregnant,
Speaker 2: she goes, Oh my god, a real roly poly, chubby
Speaker 2: cheeked shit machine, Like that's the line. And to me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, but who is this?
Speaker 1: She talks like a way that I don't think people talk,
Speaker 1: but but I believe her.
Speaker 2: I believe I believe this is Deb. I want to know,
Speaker 2: like how they came up with this maniac. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: just curious.
Speaker 1: Wait, did you see the news that there's going to
Speaker 1: be a Gladys prequel.
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was confirmed, but thrilled to hear it.
Speaker 1: I don't know confirmed confirmed, but I saw an article
Speaker 1: that said that he's in talks with the with like
Speaker 1: Warner brothers or whoever. So so we're gonna find out
Speaker 1: where that crazy witch came from. I'm excited. Good for her,
Speaker 1: good for her. Love people working, love people working.
Speaker 2: I did rewatch Sinners on the plane, and I might
Speaker 2: like Sinners more than Weapons. I'm not sure I have
Speaker 2: to watch weapons again. I've really liked Sinners.
Speaker 3: Sinners. Yeah, I didn't get it. I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 3: watch that guy.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's less sinister than weapons. You can
Speaker 2: definitely watch Sinners. It's less gross. Oh okay, it's just
Speaker 2: a little neck biting. Hmm okay. I like I'm a
Speaker 2: little sensitive about vampire neck biting stuff. I've always had
Speaker 2: sensitivity about my neck. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like my dad used to always come behind me
Speaker 1: and like grab my neck around the back and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, get off me, Like I hate I hate that.
Speaker 1: But you know, Oh, speaking of my parents, I was
Speaker 1: able to have a conversation with my mom about how
Speaker 1: RFK is a fucking quack psycho, and she agreed with me.
Speaker 1: So we're not completely lost. We're not completely lost to
Speaker 1: the Fox newspin cycle. She was like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: what Florida's doing about the vaccines, like she can't you know.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm also gonna be the this is coming out?
Speaker 1: When is this coming out? This is coming out?
Speaker 3: I have a big night tonight.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm going to a friend's house and we're playing
Speaker 2: Sex in the City trivia and I can't fucking wait.
Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to say, this comes out
Speaker 1: the thirtieth and this will be old news. But I'd
Speaker 1: like to be the first person to tell people that
Speaker 1: you did not cause your child's autism by taking tail
Speaker 1: and all if anyone's I know a lot of parents
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast and uh, you know that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: So I fucking we were in hell. But Kimmel's back
Speaker 1: on right, Yeah, I haven't talked to him. I'm Chris.
Speaker 1: Freedom of speech was silenced and then reopened in the
Speaker 1: course of five days.
Speaker 2: Well do you think Colbert is like, oh, why don't
Speaker 2: people care enough about me? Everyone called Disney, They're like,
Speaker 2: we will not work if Kimmel doesn't have a job. Well,
Speaker 2: and if Colbert, well, I think the situations are like
Speaker 2: a little bit different because he didn't like necessarily say
Speaker 2: something like they but they're not really because both of
Speaker 2: them were getting taken off.
Speaker 1: The air, not for what we thought they were getting
Speaker 1: taken off the air for. They're getting taken off the
Speaker 1: air because of like massive multi billion dollar deals that
Speaker 1: are happening so behind the scenes that the general public
Speaker 1: is not going to really get or hear about. So
Speaker 1: like if the chip was you got to take off
Speaker 1: Colbert and his ratings aren't like killing it, which, let's
Speaker 1: be honest, No, late night ratings are killing it.
Speaker 3: Like I did watch.
Speaker 2: Get Drunk with Stage here drinking with Seth Myers, Bowen
Speaker 2: and Matt are the guests, and I was blacked out
Speaker 2: last night eating taco bell while watching it, And I
Speaker 2: don't remember a thing I saw, but I remember liking it.
Speaker 3: You don't remember any details, but Vie was positive.
Speaker 5: I remember some of the details, just a few.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, should we get started with today's episode?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We should.
Speaker 2: I thought I had such an interesting week, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I guess I just went to two restaurants.
Speaker 5: But in my head, I'm like, I was fucking crushing
Speaker 5: the week. Hey, that's great. Two new restaurants, that's fun.
Speaker 5: And you went to a comedy festival and I party,
Speaker 5: that's fun.
Speaker 1: Well, if you didn't get to see Lisa at high
Speaker 1: planes and you live in various other cities, go to
Speaker 1: go to thats messed Up live dot com and scroll
Speaker 1: down to Lisa's website and that will take you to
Speaker 1: all the links for the show she's doing.
Speaker 2: And I'm rehauling it. I'm about to have such a
Speaker 2: different Internet presence. You're all gonna be blown away. Really,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think anyone's gonna be blown away,
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be different and better.
Speaker 3: Watch this squarespace.
Speaker 1: Okay, but go to Yeah, That's messed up live dot
Speaker 1: com also has like our.
Speaker 2: I did announce, I'm gonna announce I'm playing Grammercy. So
Speaker 2: February twenty first. That's like a big deal. So ooh, excited,
Speaker 2: make your trips and come see me in New York.
Speaker 2: I need it to stay sold out in the front
Speaker 2: of the theater. Are gonna jump off the ledge. That's exciting.
Speaker 2: But I'm excited to do Grammarcy. That'll be That'll be cool,
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. All right, let's get going.
Speaker 1: We've got another good one.
Speaker 3: Oh what do we have here? Another dumb title?
Speaker 2: Okay, we're doing Prima Nocta, Prima Nocta.
Speaker 3: And we'll get into it.
Speaker 2: You know, Rollin's a professor now, so she's gonna school
Speaker 2: us and let us know what everything is. Like all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, she went from being a dumb bitch
Speaker 2: to knowing everything, Like when did that switch happen?
Speaker 3: She kind of came to New York and she.
Speaker 2: Goes, I don't know, some women ask for it and
Speaker 2: they should leave. And she's like, oh, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: inside these killers' minds.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, then they experimented with making her
Speaker 1: the tech guru, Like she's like, I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: past the encryption and You're like what and now? And
Speaker 1: then they gave her Now they made her fucking mind hunter.
Speaker 1: So I don't really know what's going on. They're making
Speaker 1: her a jack of many trees.
Speaker 2: She truly was like, I don't know, shouldn't athletes be
Speaker 2: able to rape?
Speaker 3: And who cares?
Speaker 2: That gamble like it really was And now she's, you know,
Speaker 2: explaining what prema is.
Speaker 3: No one's above the log except for my sister.
Speaker 2: Kim, Like yeah yeah, And it was like I know
Speaker 2: every show, I know every MMA guy, but now she knows,
Speaker 2: she knows their stat No Her whole thing is flirting,
Speaker 2: and she knew how to like manipulate old cult men
Speaker 2: and like men and killers. But I do, yeah that
Speaker 2: you know, I'm being rough on Rollins. But she's in
Speaker 2: home mode right now. She's making pancakes. She puts one
Speaker 2: in the leather suitcase. She's so funny, but she says, uh,
Speaker 2: don't not a word to daddy. I don't get what
Speaker 2: the joke is, Like, there's a pancake in your bag,
Speaker 2: Like I would be pissed.
Speaker 1: That's how you're making five year old's laugh. I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: just put it in a paper towel.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't get it. Whatever.
Speaker 2: The girl's baby care season a vest. It's a cute morning.
Speaker 2: Everyone's kissing the baby. One of the girls does betray
Speaker 2: her mother and says, hey, I creasy, there's a pancake
Speaker 2: in your bag, and so everyone's laughing memories. He takes
Speaker 2: out the pancake and bites it. He bites it. He
Speaker 2: bites it and he likes it. That's why I got confused.
Speaker 2: He bites it and he likes it. He picks up
Speaker 2: the baby. The baby's cute, ding dong, it's magda it's
Speaker 2: a sitter. They're trying. They're talking about her, like we
Speaker 2: know her. I'm like, there's only one Magda and she's
Speaker 2: in sex in the city and she's yeah, so I
Speaker 2: don't know why the fuck you're doing this.
Speaker 3: But she also owns a meatball factory. Oh yeah, my god.
Speaker 2: Wow, I really fucked up. I hate when I slipped
Speaker 2: from my professionalism. So now Christie and Rollins are alone.
Speaker 2: Magda takes the kids and you know, I fine, Like
Speaker 2: they're still not really kissing, and I'm like, I just
Speaker 2: want them to make out. Like I don't understand why
Speaker 2: they're not making out. They're talking about her career because
Speaker 2: this is her first day of unemployment. So this is
Speaker 2: a Monday she got she retired from being a professor
Speaker 2: on Friday, and she doesn't know what what.
Speaker 3: Is she gonna do? She'll be bored all day.
Speaker 2: She goes, I'll be fine, I'll be fine, and he goes, well,
Speaker 2: worst comes to worst, I'll hire you as an investigator
Speaker 2: at the DA's office. And she's like, you're obsessed with me.
Speaker 2: I can't really do this all day, all night. It's
Speaker 2: too much. They finally kiss, so he leaves. He thanks
Speaker 2: her for the pancakes, which is so nice an acknowledgment
Speaker 2: of like a fun, nice thing that you got.
Speaker 3: I love them together. I do love them together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're discussed, so I like them together.
Speaker 3: That was a four second pause, Kara.
Speaker 1: I do not feel attracted to him, but I do
Speaker 1: like them together as a couple.
Speaker 3: I think they're sweet. I do.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's literally only been with ultra losers before,
Speaker 1: so well, I don't know if not declan, but that
Speaker 1: seems like it was more of a fling. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: doctor decclin is crazy. The guy from AA sucked. I
Speaker 1: mean they're all you know. Yeah when she fucked that
Speaker 1: like bartender at the motel and just like l had
Speaker 1: like hot coffees waiting. Yeah, poor guy's getting projected in
Speaker 1: West Virginia.
Speaker 2: That was terrible. You got her, you got her. So
Speaker 2: Rollins is alone. She put her she puts her hands
Speaker 2: in her pockets, and she walks around her little apartment.
Speaker 2: It's really cute. The apartment's really sweet. She sighs. She
Speaker 2: sits down, and now we cut to a wedding. It
Speaker 2: is a Monday, so let's talk about that. So it's
Speaker 2: a Monday wedding at a Stain's glass, so.
Speaker 3: True, what's happening? It's a Monday wedding.
Speaker 2: They do acknowledge it later, thank god they do. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, there's a line. I clocked it, but it's
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a Monday, And I also understand if
Speaker 2: it's Monday at a courthouse sort of beat like something
Speaker 2: small and intimate.
Speaker 3: This is your biggest on a Monday.
Speaker 2: Full Flooral's full bridle party dressed in the same dress
Speaker 2: like stay glass.
Speaker 3: Hundreds of people wedding on a Monday.
Speaker 2: So they're doing vows and the girlies crying and I
Speaker 2: can't actually tell if the tears are good or bad.
Speaker 2: I can't tell he vows fidelity. It's like, that's like
Speaker 2: a funny word.
Speaker 3: So then because that's like that's not in the classic ones.
Speaker 1: Is it. I think fidelity is like a pledge to
Speaker 1: not check but not that word.
Speaker 3: Oh it's not in the class.
Speaker 2: But he's faithful, faithful the word God, I gotta gotta
Speaker 2: got it. Yeah, I had just never heard fidelity. But
Speaker 2: it also makes it seem like you clearly cheated on her.
Speaker 2: Then like what do I like, why are you? It's like,
Speaker 2: if you're here, that's I guess that's the promises you make.
Speaker 2: But she slips a ring on him, but then she
Speaker 2: looks out and she says, I'm sorry. She takes the
Speaker 2: ring off his finger. It falls to the ground and
Speaker 2: she runs down the aisle. She is sprinting in this dress,
Speaker 2: and it must have been so fun to film, thinking
Speaker 2: about like sprinting down an aisle in a wedding dress,
Speaker 2: like cool. Cuts back to Benson. Elevator doors open, and
Speaker 2: she's talking to Rollin's on the phone and she goes,
Speaker 2: hurd four itam's down at professor and Rollin's goes, are
Speaker 2: you calling to say I told you so? And she goes, nah, bitch,
Speaker 2: I'm like a chill, supportive woman. And she goes, I'm
Speaker 2: already tuning my guitar. And it's like, you really can't
Speaker 2: put on a show, Like I don't get her, Like
Speaker 2: you could also take a block, like a.
Speaker 3: Walk around your neighborhood. But I also don't get it.
Speaker 1: It's like we just talked about we just talked to
Speaker 1: her when she was still pregnant with the baby, and
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't know, it's really not me
Speaker 1: to be the last episode recovered, She's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I could work part time spend more time with
Speaker 1: my family, but it's not me. And so then she
Speaker 1: leaves her job and doesn't have anything lined up when
Speaker 1: she's already acknowledged that the stay at home life is
Speaker 1: not for her. It makes it doesn't really make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me. But I guess they're trying
Speaker 1: to build the tension of will she won't she go
Speaker 1: back to work?
Speaker 2: No, I get it, there's a show, there's when we
Speaker 2: need to get somewhere and we need to bring her back.
Speaker 2: But in my head, it's like you can't have one
Speaker 2: Monday alone like that. That's actually mental and you should
Speaker 2: look into that. Like I'm not saying don't get a job.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying get a job at the end of
Speaker 2: the week. I'm just like, you could do a week
Speaker 2: or two in between jobs too. I'm just saying, like
Speaker 2: the kids, just like in an hour, you were tuning
Speaker 2: a guitar that's fucked up.
Speaker 3: Read a book.
Speaker 1: You don't want to get your nails done, you don't
Speaker 1: want to read a project you've been meaning to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I I'm just opposite as well.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe you would be more kind to her,
Speaker 2: but you also don't get it.
Speaker 3: No, I also don't get it.
Speaker 1: I'm also like, you have three kids, don't you have
Speaker 1: like laundry and like a million other fucking things to
Speaker 1: be doing, like buying them a uniform for whatever sport.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's like so much to fucking do when
Speaker 1: you have three kids to be like, uh, free day.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would even do with that,
Speaker 1: Like that's wild to me. Yeah, agreed, but we're happy
Speaker 1: she's back. So Benson goes, how about we do lunch? Rollin's,
Speaker 1: of course desperate Desperate says yes. We see Bruno and
Speaker 1: Curry and they're standing at their desks, and then we
Speaker 1: pull back and we hear ro like we see Rollins
Speaker 1: staring at them through Benson's office, going ew, is that
Speaker 1: a whistleblower? And then that bit you investigated, and Benson goes, no,
Speaker 1: I like them.
Speaker 3: They're good.
Speaker 2: They're good, don't worry, and you know Rollin's is being fake.
Speaker 2: Oh well, it's good you're not short staffed anymore. But
Speaker 2: clearly she wants a desk, and then we find out actually,
Speaker 2: this is the craziest part. So then Benson goes, I
Speaker 2: just can't believe you would turned down a ten year offer.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just hate that.
Speaker 2: I always thought it was ten yere But so this
Speaker 2: bitch is offered tenure after teaching for what two years? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it means that you can go on sabbaticals. It means
Speaker 2: you could probably still be an investigator or cop. You'd
Speaker 2: have to teach what one or two classes a week,
Speaker 2: and then you would have a guaranteed job for life,
Speaker 2: your kids probably get to go to college for She like,
Speaker 2: what exactly is going on? It's really ea and we
Speaker 2: know she doesn't come from money or careesy, why would
Speaker 2: you not care?
Speaker 3: Key?
Speaker 2: Like, I'm sure the insurance is better or health suff's
Speaker 2: better at the professorship.
Speaker 3: I just don't get it. Uh yeah, yeah, the health
Speaker 3: is good with the cops in her mind.
Speaker 2: But I just am confused why you would turn down
Speaker 2: tenure as well getting it the fastest anyone has ever
Speaker 2: gotten it.
Speaker 1: It's like the literally the only thing. Also, why was
Speaker 1: she offered ten year after like one year working somewhere?
Speaker 1: Don't people have to work for years doing that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's really also has no academic background. It's insane, and
Speaker 1: she could do it.
Speaker 2: She could do both so Bruno interrupts them though, and yeah,
Speaker 2: every time I see him, I feel proud.
Speaker 3: He's only been a guest once, but like I just
Speaker 3: feel like he's our guy, his old friend. So the
Speaker 3: church called.
Speaker 2: A woman has locked herself in a room and doesn't
Speaker 2: want to talk to anybody but them, and they're like
Speaker 2: what And so she did call and say SVU only
Speaker 2: Benson and Rollins play cooy games, Daddyada, but Rollins is
Speaker 2: gonna come with so like, let's get to it, and
Speaker 2: I wrote I just want everyone to kiss. Okay, what
Speaker 2: a weird vibe was watching this with? Okay, So the
Speaker 2: cops are here. A bridesmaid walks him too the suite
Speaker 2: and then the groom is begging her to come out,
Speaker 2: and Benson says move over, and he goes, wait, sbu,
Speaker 2: what are you doing here? No one reported a crime?
Speaker 2: What special victim? And they're like, well someone did. We
Speaker 2: don't want you here, And he's trying to communicate to
Speaker 2: the bride when she opens the door and she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to talk to him, and so they enter and
Speaker 2: close the door on the groom. She says she was
Speaker 2: raped last night after the rehearsal dinner and she starts
Speaker 2: to cry. It happened at her parents' house. She was
Speaker 2: sleeping there for tradition. They were going to get ready
Speaker 2: in the morning there, but at three am, she felt
Speaker 2: someone get into bed with her, put their hand on
Speaker 2: her mouth. The window was opened. It was a warm night,
Speaker 2: so she like cracked it a little bit to get air.
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to go out there. She doesn't want
Speaker 2: to see families. She doesn't want to see anyone. So
Speaker 2: they go, that's fine, we'll take you out the back
Speaker 2: door and we're going to go to Mercy Hospital, and
Speaker 2: then we get the credits. And I do want to
Speaker 2: say that that opening scene was over seven minutes long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a long one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think this is the longest in history.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like this. I've never seen an
Speaker 2: over seven minute one, even though the ones that feel
Speaker 2: long or with music or like yeah, yeah, story like
Speaker 2: this was extra wild to me. But I also have
Speaker 2: no recollection of this episode, so this whole thing was
Speaker 2: new to me. I was I didn't know what was
Speaker 2: happening every moment, and usually it clicks halfway through where
Speaker 2: you see one character interview and it makes sense.
Speaker 3: I did not I've never seen this episode ever.
Speaker 2: So at the hospital, the bride asks if she's going
Speaker 2: to get her wedding dress back, but they want to
Speaker 2: try to find residual DNA because this motherfucker took her
Speaker 2: nightgown and betting with him.
Speaker 3: So that's pretty fucked up.
Speaker 1: Robi, Like, why would there be any DNA on her
Speaker 1: wedding dress.
Speaker 2: Like if she didn't shower in the morning. I think
Speaker 2: she wore a shower on the morning of her wedding.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't know. I think they're trying
Speaker 2: to show that it sucks, yeah to report a crime,
Speaker 2: because then you can't have a wedding.
Speaker 3: M got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, they try to like show
Speaker 2: you that rape kits are tough, and this is just like, yep,
Speaker 2: you don't get your dress back.
Speaker 1: You don't get your wedding dress back. That's that goes
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 2: And also Rollins is fully volunteering here, like she's not
Speaker 2: part of the squad. This is her day off and
Speaker 2: she is fully and I know it's a TV show,
Speaker 2: but there's just no fucking way in hell, Like there's
Speaker 2: just no way in hell, Like you're just letting like
Speaker 2: a a.
Speaker 1: Defunct professor, former NYPD detective talked of witnesses like that,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So she's like, so she explains the guy was black,
Speaker 2: but she wasn't able to see his face. They asked
Speaker 2: if he said anything, and he did, You're going to
Speaker 2: remember me so for the rest. And then they go like,
Speaker 2: what do you think he meant by that? And she goes,
Speaker 2: it felt like he meant like the rest of my
Speaker 2: marriage like that every time I think about getting like
Speaker 2: she goes, I think he knew I was getting married.
Speaker 2: He and then he also put her wrists behind her
Speaker 2: back and they were rough hands, so she thinks he
Speaker 2: uses his hands for work. And she asks if Rollins
Speaker 2: is gonna stay, and she says every minute. So I
Speaker 2: just can't stop laughing, Okay, and this is serious. So
Speaker 2: the medical professional says that she's happy to see her back.
Speaker 2: So the nurses are happy Rollins is back. So now
Speaker 2: Finn and Benson walk in and he's playing the episode
Speaker 2: fool that's his job this episode, and she didn't report
Speaker 2: it till today. So then Benson has to go like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred people were coming for the wedding,
Speaker 2: so I understand, not wanting to push it or tell people.
Speaker 2: So he goes, do you think it's revenge? And Benson goes, no,
Speaker 2: she does not know this person. It's a stranger. So
Speaker 2: then we see the groom in the waiting room and
Speaker 2: he goes, can it be him? And Benson goes no.
Speaker 2: He looked really shocked. He looks really shocked at what
Speaker 2: was happening, and then Finn could he have enemies? So
Speaker 2: Finn is gonna go talk to him, but before that
Speaker 2: they get a little gossip session in about with Rollins
Speaker 2: and what she's going to do back on the force.
Speaker 2: I don't know paperwork, so but he's like, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to tell anyone, but everyone is asking questions about Amanda.
Speaker 2: So Finn approaches the groom and he's like, fuck, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell anybody. Everyone is asking questions,
Speaker 2: and he's like, why didn't she tell me this happen?
Speaker 2: He goes, don't blame her, and he goes, but I'm
Speaker 2: allowed to be angry, and he's like, I'm just worried
Speaker 2: about my wife, and so Finn asks, do you know
Speaker 2: anyone that will want to hurt her? He's like, the
Speaker 2: groom says, I can put a list together of maybe
Speaker 2: Ex's We share passwords at the computers, so I'll be
Speaker 2: able to get some names through her social media. I
Speaker 2: don't know what he's about to do. So Finn asks
Speaker 2: if they live together. He says yes, and Finn's like, well,
Speaker 2: she spent last night at her parents' house.
Speaker 3: Did anyone know she was staying there?
Speaker 2: So that's family and wedding parties, so we need a
Speaker 2: list of those people as well. And then what else
Speaker 2: happened last night rehearsal dinner? You know, people got drunk,
Speaker 2: There was speeches, fun stuff. So then they ask like,
Speaker 2: were any of your guy friends touchy and weird? And
Speaker 2: he goes, no, we were so happy, Like we kept
Speaker 2: looking at each other thinking how lucky are we? Who
Speaker 2: would want to ruin that? And now we cut to
Speaker 2: a woman entering the blind's room. So that and then
Speaker 2: she has dyed red maroon type hair, so we know
Speaker 2: she's up to no good, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: It's like, who would ruin it? Here's a bottle redhead.
Speaker 2: And so she's like, it was a great night. No
Speaker 2: one threw a drink like they did at my rehearsal dinner,
Speaker 2: so we're like, okay, she got her friend raped.
Speaker 3: Obviously she's orchestrated everything.
Speaker 2: They ask her if any of the male guests were
Speaker 2: giving the bride too much attention, and she goes, well,
Speaker 2: it's the bride. We're all looking at the bride, so
Speaker 2: I didn't see. She didn't get any creep vibes from
Speaker 2: any of the servers or bartenders either, so we don't
Speaker 2: know what's going on. And then while the friend is
Speaker 2: recalling the day, she does acknowledge that the bride was
Speaker 2: removed in the morning and was kind of weird, and
Speaker 2: on the way to the church she did ask like,
Speaker 2: why is your bed stripped? And she had no expression,
Speaker 2: and you know, like her friend just assumed her mom
Speaker 2: was being insane about the laundry. And then now we're
Speaker 2: talking to one of the grooms men and he says, yes,
Speaker 2: she just walked down the aisle like nothing was wrong.
Speaker 2: And they asked, well, was anyone jealous, Like was anyone
Speaker 2: really jealous of their love?
Speaker 3: And he says no, people were wasted.
Speaker 2: But then he stops and he goes, listen, all of
Speaker 2: us have been friends with Phillips since high school, and
Speaker 2: the only thing we're jealous of is like that they
Speaker 2: found love in their lives and some of us aren't
Speaker 2: so lucky. And it's like, well, I think that's what
Speaker 2: they're getting at, So who are those people? But Phil
Speaker 2: drew and then Phil drove her to the parents' house
Speaker 2: and so now it's precinct brainstorm time. And so again,
Speaker 2: the only people that knew she was sleeping there are
Speaker 2: parents and the wedding party. There's no sign of force entry,
Speaker 2: but the window is open. There's no traffic cams that
Speaker 2: match the guy that she described, there's no DNA, nothing
Speaker 2: missing from the house. And like the motive, Like, is
Speaker 2: it motive or random that the wedding was the next day?
Speaker 2: And obviously it's not random because he said you're gonna
Speaker 2: remember me, You're gonna remember me, So that's like that
Speaker 2: definitely has to be with the with the wedding, And.
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you think so I feel like
Speaker 1: that's just something a rapist could say, like you're gonna
Speaker 1: you'll never forget me, because I'm like, I just ruined
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. That is
Speaker 3: a classic rape thing, Like yeah, no, you're right. It's
Speaker 3: like a villain thing to say. It's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy also was paranoid about leaving DNA behind.
Speaker 2: And and also no one can think of a grudge
Speaker 2: like that the couple could have had. So now maybe
Speaker 2: they have to check with wedding vendors. And now Curry's
Speaker 2: on the computer gets a hit with the DNA to
Speaker 2: an unsolved assault in Brooklyn six months ago, and it
Speaker 2: happened before the victim's wedding, so not random. So this
Speaker 2: is a serial rapist that is targeting brides. And now
Speaker 2: Rollin says, premnocta droi de seignor whatever.
Speaker 3: That's not what she says. Say it.
Speaker 1: It's like duas de signor. But she it's like it's
Speaker 1: in French, and she's like she says it really quick,
Speaker 1: I think because she's like, it is like.
Speaker 3: DUIs de's signeur or.
Speaker 1: Something like that. You know, it's like the right of
Speaker 1: the of the what is that word? No, No, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm gonna do it all. I'm gonna I
Speaker 1: have it here.
Speaker 2: So Finn goes, English bitch, and so she goes, it's
Speaker 2: a medieval right that the lord of the castle can
Speaker 2: sleep with any woman under his rule on the night
Speaker 2: of her wedding. But they're like, yeah, but this guy's
Speaker 2: not a prince, so what's up. So we have to
Speaker 2: go talk to the nurse or is there more specific
Speaker 2: language translations?
Speaker 1: No, I just did that word signeur, like I've never
Speaker 1: seen that in French, Like I know, but dois is
Speaker 1: right in French. So I knew the beginning of the phrase,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know the end words. So like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is like, these kings are crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fuck all your wives. Then that before their wife.
Speaker 2: It's just like psycho Psycho. It's like, sorry, I.
Speaker 1: Actually get to put my dick in any lady the
Speaker 1: night before her wedding.
Speaker 3: Sorry, that's just my right. But so crazy. The past
Speaker 3: and future is not bright. Okay.
Speaker 2: So so now we're talking to this Brooklyn victim and
Speaker 2: she's saying, you know, I as a nurse.
Speaker 3: She's a nurse.
Speaker 2: She goes, I never understood why victims didn't fight back
Speaker 2: during like while I was in the hospital, and Benson goes,
Speaker 2: you protected yourself. And again she was staying at her
Speaker 2: sister's house in Park Slope and they're like, well, who
Speaker 2: knew you were staying there, and she goes family friend's
Speaker 2: wedding party a few vendors with last minute supplies and
Speaker 2: she's like, the guy was black, average height, but was
Speaker 2: on the heavier side, and so I'm sure it's the
Speaker 2: same guy. So when he was done and about to leave,
Speaker 2: he did come back, took the bedding, took the night gown,
Speaker 2: and they're like, well, you know your rape kid is
Speaker 2: our key to solve it, and she goes, oh, fuck,
Speaker 2: that means he did it again, huh, and you know
Speaker 2: he is targeting brides to be And she goes, well,
Speaker 2: there's one other detail and I didn't tell the police
Speaker 2: or husband. He did say you're going to remember me.
Speaker 2: So definitely the same guy. But she does not want
Speaker 2: her husband to know this. It's been really hard to
Speaker 2: get over this as a couple and she doesn't want
Speaker 2: to get involved. So we're back to corkboard time and
Speaker 2: same phrase, same night.
Speaker 3: Wants to is that what we came up with? What
Speaker 3: do we come up with?
Speaker 1: I think we said the huddle hud, yeah, but back
Speaker 1: to corkboard time also really works for me.
Speaker 3: That's funny.
Speaker 2: The huddle Okay, So we have same phrase, same night.
Speaker 3: He wants to leave a mark. How do we catch
Speaker 3: this guy?
Speaker 2: These women have nothing in common, nothing outside of the wedding,
Speaker 2: no mutuals, still, no vendor overlap. Finn is a good idea, like,
Speaker 2: let's see if anyone's on the sex registry list.
Speaker 3: Rollins wants to handle it. He goes, no, we actually
Speaker 3: have a date. Come with me. So this is cute.
Speaker 2: But they just go shooting and she's killing it like
Speaker 2: center center pow pow POWs. And then Finn is like,
Speaker 2: have you told Cariesy you're working. She's like, no, not yet,
Speaker 2: chill out. And then now they're in the vending machine
Speaker 2: room and Curry and Bruno are talking and she is
Speaker 2: looking at five years of open rapes, but none that
Speaker 2: happened the night before a wedding. He says, well, the
Speaker 2: victims were probably less likely to report. It's a giant event,
Speaker 2: you know, like who wants a uniform cop charging in?
Speaker 2: And then an uptown detective is here to see Curry.
Speaker 2: His girlfriend works at a DNA lab and they're getting
Speaker 2: married next month, and she's freaking out about this wedding rapist.
Speaker 2: And since it's a the you know, the brides are
Speaker 2: getting raped. So they're like, so you came here just
Speaker 2: because your girlfriend's freaked out, and he goes, no, there's more.
Speaker 3: About a year ago, I got a call.
Speaker 2: From a woman that said she was getting married that
Speaker 2: night at the Park Milano, and she asked what it
Speaker 2: would entail to report a rape, and so he walked
Speaker 2: her through it and she changed her mind, and he's like,
Speaker 2: and so nothing happened, and she said she was sorry
Speaker 2: that she wasted his time, but he did keep the
Speaker 2: log book. So now we're at the home of and
Speaker 2: Frank Richards Knock knock, Finn and Benson are there.
Speaker 3: She's holding a baby. It's a nice house.
Speaker 2: They ask questions about the Park Milano, what's going on
Speaker 2: last March, and the woman's face falls.
Speaker 3: She knows what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then the husband comes and they know what's up.
Speaker 2: So they go, well, it was a robbery, and we're
Speaker 2: just talking to people that were there that night. You know,
Speaker 2: we're investigating this robbery. A bunch A year and a
Speaker 2: half later.
Speaker 1: Liv loves that though she loves to throw like a
Speaker 1: smoke screen up for a husband to not know why
Speaker 1: she's there to talk to a woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's really good at it, but she does give
Speaker 2: a card to the woman and they walk away. So
Speaker 2: the man closes the door, but he is not happy,
Speaker 2: and ominous music is playing and he stares through the
Speaker 2: door glass angrily at the detectives. So we're back at
Speaker 2: the corkboard and it's all different vendors and there's no
Speaker 2: registered sex defenders at these places either, so we need
Speaker 2: to figure out who this could be. It's like the
Speaker 2: purp knew the bride would be sleeping alone, how like
Speaker 2: how did he know what hotel? And they keep chatting
Speaker 2: and our woman from the Park Milano walks in. I
Speaker 2: wrote our bridge from the Park Milano and like what
Speaker 2: the fuck? Oh bride? Okay, why did I call this
Speaker 2: woman a bridge? The bride? Okay? So Benson looks like
Speaker 2: she just saw ghosts. Missus Richards walks her and she
Speaker 2: wants to talk to Benson in private. Rollins of course,
Speaker 2: joins her. She can't stand still. It's her first day off.
Speaker 2: So she says, my husband doesn't know we got that.
Speaker 2: But she did a DNA test half a month after
Speaker 2: the baby was born and it's not her husband's baby,
Speaker 2: it's the rapist baby. And they're like, well, Frank didn't
Speaker 2: even question it. She goes, fuck, no, he was so
Speaker 2: happy when Joseph was born, and he doesn't know about
Speaker 2: the rape. She thought he wouldn't love her anymore and
Speaker 2: that she was broken and damaged, and Benson, you survived.
Speaker 3: So she knows that it's obviously up.
Speaker 2: And again since they showed up at her door and
Speaker 2: you know, they ask her like, please just whatever where
Speaker 2: you can remember tell us, So she explains. He was black,
Speaker 2: he was a big dude. She heard a knock. She
Speaker 2: assumed it was her husband, who didn't want to be apart.
Speaker 2: They were sleeping in separate hotel rooms for tradition, and
Speaker 2: he pushed his way in so she could have seen
Speaker 2: his face. So he pushed his way in. He also
Speaker 2: said you're gonna remember me, and again took the bedding
Speaker 2: and she didn't sleep all night.
Speaker 1: I can't believe the Park Milano hotel has no cameras
Speaker 1: in it. I'm just confused about to go into someone's
Speaker 1: window or something like that. I get it, we're she
Speaker 1: didn't report it, Yeah, but like yeah, she like it
Speaker 1: browls you to walk into a hotel and do something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also this officer like yeah, It's good that
Speaker 2: he like connected the dots and his girlfriend was scared
Speaker 2: and he came in. But it's also fucked up because like,
Speaker 2: obviously something happened. You could have told the person like
Speaker 2: you can, you can report it tomorrow, or let us
Speaker 2: come do a quick swat, you know, like ye, there
Speaker 2: could have been a way to keep like pressuring her,
Speaker 2: but yeah, not pressuring, supporting, but the park mulano Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And he also said you're gonna remember me. But my
Speaker 2: thing also, sorry if I already said that. My thing
Speaker 2: also is like if this was his first attack, how
Speaker 2: did he know to take the bedding? Like was he
Speaker 2: an SVU watcher? It was he watching her? Like how
Speaker 2: or is this not his first attack? But like how
Speaker 2: did he know to take everything? I think just from
Speaker 2: watching TV?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just grab everything and get like remove the crime scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now I guess everyone knows that, Yeah, she said,
Speaker 2: you know, she called the cops the next morning because
Speaker 2: she thought it was the responsible thing to do, but
Speaker 2: the cop said she'd have to go to the hospital
Speaker 2: give a statement. It could take hours, and she didn't
Speaker 2: want to do all that and disappoint all the people
Speaker 2: that flew in yeah, and she doesn't regret it. She
Speaker 2: says she doesn't regret a thing, especially her son. But
Speaker 2: there is one thing. She's like, we were trying to
Speaker 2: save money, and she could have sworn she saw this
Speaker 2: guy earlier at the flower whole sailor.
Speaker 3: Dun dun, dun, dun, dunt, don't dun. But yeah, that
Speaker 3: does suck.
Speaker 2: So if you get raped before your wedding or wedding's canceled, like,
Speaker 2: there's got.
Speaker 3: To be a better way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gotta be like quick rape kits like I
Speaker 2: don't know, or there'd be like she could she went
Speaker 2: along with the wedding. I mean, she wasn't sad enough.
Speaker 2: It's really fucked up. It's just another layer of rape
Speaker 2: that I'd never thought about. Yeah, I'm sure maybe I
Speaker 2: have like an event. I don't know, bummer, so whatever. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm sure things like this happen before. People are getting
Speaker 2: married or graduating or having massive moments in their lives
Speaker 2: all the time, and it like ruins it right, Like
Speaker 2: you know, just something that's supposed to be such a
Speaker 2: happy moment and you just have a huge trauma married
Speaker 2: to it, literally no pun intended. Yeah, so we go
Speaker 2: to the wholesaler select roses the guy fun. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's us, checks the records, looks at the photo. Everything yep,
Speaker 2: yap bap. But they don't do deliveries. They're a wholesaler.
Speaker 2: So the floral people come in with their own vans
Speaker 2: because he gives such a big discount, but they push him.
Speaker 2: They're like, come on, like who else touches the flowers?
Speaker 2: He goes maybe the maintenance guy, ding ding ding. Let's
Speaker 2: find him. His name's Leon Wallace. He is big and black,
Speaker 2: so we can't assume it's him, and he's pushing a
Speaker 2: cart and he does not stop when they are calling
Speaker 2: for him. They keep saying it Leon, Leon, Leon, but
Speaker 2: he's not answering. And also he had rough hands, so
Speaker 2: like maintenance and working with flowers would rough up your hands,
Speaker 2: I would say. So they catch up to him, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't, like I said, doesn't try to run. He
Speaker 2: just doesn't hear them, and so when they take off
Speaker 2: his head, they're like what the fuck?
Speaker 3: He goes sorry, I'm hard of hearing.
Speaker 2: And he seems stoner, vibes to me, like really relaxed,
Speaker 2: and so after seeing the cop badge, though he's not
Speaker 2: nervous at all, and he says he's not allowed personal
Speaker 2: time on the clock and they're super busy today. They go, no,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk, so don't you worry, and he goes,
Speaker 2: what's this about. They say it's robberies and that everyone
Speaker 2: that got robbed ordered flowers from here. He's like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't interact with the customers. I just keep this
Speaker 2: place clean. So they ask about the park Milano and
Speaker 2: he chuckles and he goes, you want me to remember
Speaker 2: what I was doing last year? And Bruno goes, well,
Speaker 2: how about last Monday? Another wedding, and he says, not
Speaker 2: a lot of people get hitched on a weekday. So
Speaker 2: they acknowledged it. Yeah, okay, a Monday. So but like
Speaker 2: I said, if they were rich, if the church was
Speaker 2: that big and it was fancy, like I beca bloom
Speaker 2: got married on a Thursday. I think rich people don't
Speaker 2: like days don't really matter to them. And but to
Speaker 2: them it's like embarrassing to get married on a Saturday.
Speaker 2: That means you have to do you can't get you know,
Speaker 2: time off or something, or you have to work.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, they acknowledged this Monday wedding. He goes, oh,
Speaker 2: I do remember I had Monday off, you know, the
Speaker 2: market's closed, and go.
Speaker 3: What were you doing when you were home?
Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, I was with Missus Pritchard. I
Speaker 2: rent the room from her. She's like a grandmother to me.
Speaker 2: And he's like, we were in the couch, we were
Speaker 2: watching her stories. Okay, so what now? Obviously we're going
Speaker 2: to the woman. We're with the woman. She goes, Leon
Speaker 2: has been a godsend. He is more thoughtful than her
Speaker 2: own grandchildren. She says that they were together, but they
Speaker 2: keep pushing her. They keep pushing her like, wait, so
Speaker 2: would you lie for him? You love him so much?
Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't lie for anyone, and she goes,
Speaker 2: I'll give you my phone records whatever you need. I
Speaker 2: don't care. Go in his room. He's got nothing to hide.
Speaker 2: So she brings them downstairs suspense. The little music is playing.
Speaker 2: It's super clean and tidy, and then they leave up
Speaker 2: the stairs.
Speaker 3: But when they.
Speaker 2: Leave, she looks worried, dark, scared, like her eyes are bulging,
Speaker 2: like did you get and then we never see her again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very.
Speaker 1: Confused about the what role the grandma lady was playing
Speaker 1: in this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you helping him violent towards you? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what is going on? You seem panicked as fucked or
Speaker 2: do you know he's good? Do you know he's bad?
Speaker 2: Like she looked evil, her eyes were bulging. It was
Speaker 2: scary and she it was unsettling. Yeah, I didn't. Then
Speaker 2: nothing and then we don't see her again. Okay, so
Speaker 2: we're back at work. We need evidence. We do have
Speaker 2: the DNAs to match, but like of the different crimes.
Speaker 2: But when they tried to get his DNA from my
Speaker 2: hair brush, the lady was on it and was like,
Speaker 2: you don't touch that, and then Finn goes. We got
Speaker 2: played by a retired burlesque dancer.
Speaker 1: It's also it is weird that this guy is collecting
Speaker 1: all of the sheets but he's not wearing a condom.
Speaker 3: Is that how we have his DNA?
Speaker 2: No, it could be hair, sweat, fiber. I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: it could be like mucus, vomit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not vomit, but but I mean it's like, if
Speaker 1: you're being so careful about like collecting all this shit,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like you'd wrap it up.
Speaker 3: But whatever, maybe he didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the other bride do the rape kit, not
Speaker 1: the first one. And I don't even know about the
Speaker 1: second one. I don't know about the park Malona. What
Speaker 1: about the nurse, Yeah, I'm not sure. Maybe he touched
Speaker 1: the bed frame. Yeah, you know what I mean DNA.
Speaker 3: We love to talk about touch DNA. So they got played.
Speaker 2: Benson's like, well, I just talked to the other two
Speaker 2: brides florists and they all went to the exact same wholesaler.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like such good SVU that it's
Speaker 2: like not a vendor, but the wholesaler where the vendor
Speaker 2: gets the stuff. Like all right, you guys have thought
Speaker 2: of fucking everything. But the two brides couldn't pick him
Speaker 2: out of a photo array. But maybe Brina could, but
Speaker 2: she doesn't really want to help because she doesn't want
Speaker 2: to break up her marriage. So we need to figure
Speaker 2: out a different way to get this guy. So with
Speaker 2: the first assault, we know that Brina did use the
Speaker 2: wholesalers and that's how she recognized him. So he does
Speaker 2: it for like certain certain weddings, but like, how would
Speaker 2: he have gotten the address? Maybe the carbon paper for
Speaker 2: the order forms? And then he gets a taste and
Speaker 2: he wants more, and he and then Rollin's professor knowledge says,
Speaker 2: he wants to ruin someone's happiness, so let's give him
Speaker 2: a taste.
Speaker 3: So they get Rollinson careesy.
Speaker 2: They're undercover, they're gonna entrap him, so they go there.
Speaker 3: They pick out again, she does not work for the NYPD.
Speaker 1: You're putting a civilian into an undercover situation with a
Speaker 1: potential criminal.
Speaker 2: Okay, it is romantic, though it's super romantic. Rollins runs
Speaker 2: off and Creasy plans with the man in charge and
Speaker 2: gets him to get Leon over for a surprise flower
Speaker 2: delivery to his wife. That wasn't how anyone talks since
Speaker 2: they're sleeping apart.
Speaker 3: So basically, he wants like a floral surprise.
Speaker 2: He says, anytime before ten pm, hydrange his roses, give
Speaker 2: my girl some flowers.
Speaker 1: And this is like, yeah, my NYPD budgets so limited,
Speaker 1: get her anything.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Leon, you should be a little suspicious, but.
Speaker 2: Leaving guys questioned you earlier today. But Leon smiles and says,
Speaker 2: not a problem. But he's staring at them and they're,
Speaker 2: you know, they're kissing, and they want they're just so
Speaker 2: happy and cute and they are in love and Leon's pissed.
Speaker 2: He's mean mugging and walks off. So now our crime
Speaker 2: fighting couple is getting ready for their sting. She's wearing
Speaker 2: a wire. He is in a van and he's like,
Speaker 2: I think Leon's onto us, and they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you like. She goes, well, yeah, being questioned
Speaker 2: by two cops you think he should be but they're
Speaker 2: so warny, and he's like, your eyes haven't listened like
Speaker 2: this since you've left the SVU. So they think he's
Speaker 2: gonna do the delivery and then come back at three am,
Speaker 2: so it might be a long night. But also to me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't be this dumb, like you're that
Speaker 2: risky when the cops know what's up. But he you know,
Speaker 2: his hatred fuels him, so his hatred might be too powerful.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I also think these guys are like, if they're
Speaker 1: on to me, I might not have that much more
Speaker 1: time to do something like this. Oh you're right, you know,
Speaker 1: like if I'm going to jail soon, a better you know, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Got to get it all in. But and again, i've
Speaker 2: never seen this episode. I don't know how if I
Speaker 2: missed it. I've never seen this so he's in there.
Speaker 2: They say, so we see him like coming out of
Speaker 2: his van and they're like, he looks cagy and it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: that might just be racist. He looks fine. He knocks
Speaker 2: Rollins opens the door. She lures him in, but he
Speaker 2: tries not to go in and but you know, no
Speaker 2: one at the end of the day can resist a
Speaker 2: Rollin's flirt.
Speaker 3: And he's like literally.
Speaker 1: Trying to fuck this guy immediately, like it's so crazy.
Speaker 2: He brings in the other boxes and she's like, can
Speaker 2: I fix you a drink?
Speaker 3: It's psycho.
Speaker 2: It's so suspicious, and they're trying to get his DNA,
Speaker 2: but they're trying to get his DNA. Basically, they're trying
Speaker 2: to get the DNA. So Christie's watching it. He's pissed.
Speaker 2: He's like, this is too close soon trapment, But they
Speaker 2: need him to try to drink, so she's laying it
Speaker 2: on thick. She's like, this is my last night single.
Speaker 2: He goes, He's like I'm good and he runs off.
Speaker 2: Creasy's pissed. He runs out, gets in the van and
Speaker 2: he drives off. They are going to follow him and
Speaker 2: no one can get a hold of Amanda, but she said, guys,
Speaker 2: we got him, get csu down here now.
Speaker 1: So they got to do a little swap kit and
Speaker 1: he cuffed. What is she talking about? What's his sweat
Speaker 1: is on her?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like maybe she touched his face or arms to be
Speaker 2: like get get a drink, okay me like a little
Speaker 2: cat because like there.
Speaker 1: Was just this scene where she's like looking at her
Speaker 1: arm and she's like, get down here now. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: did hees on her hands? Like I didn't understand. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that, but I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 3: But he's handcuffed.
Speaker 2: Finn and Bruno have him coming out of the elevator.
Speaker 2: Benson runs out the DNA is a match on all
Speaker 2: three cases, but he wants to wait for his lawyer.
Speaker 2: Benson and Finn are chatting, and she goes, wow, I
Speaker 2: guess Amanda hasn't lost her touch, and Finn goes, yep,
Speaker 2: she got his DNA on the rim of a glass
Speaker 2: and under her fingertips.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: She probably correct. He probably took a drink. She caressed
Speaker 2: him in some way and that got him running. How
Speaker 2: is that like not entropment? Like I guess I don't
Speaker 2: understand that because they didn't. They didn't arrest him because
Speaker 2: of what he did in there. They just got his DNA.
Speaker 2: You can try to trick someone to get DNA. I think,
Speaker 2: oh no, okay, no, it makes sense that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess you're right a crime, that's true. She's also
Speaker 2: working privately, Like what's the chain of custody, she's not
Speaker 2: even a detective. I don't know, I don't know. No,
Speaker 2: this is I think highly illegal and improbable.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I cannot be here like a fool being, Like no,
Speaker 2: I think you can entrap DNA. Yeah, yeah, it would
Speaker 2: just be all undercovers, just sucking the dicks of guys
Speaker 2: and like keeping the j's and running out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's like if you're taking
Speaker 1: a soda can off somebody at the precinct, then what's
Speaker 1: the difference thing, you can't suck their dick and you can't, yeah,
Speaker 1: Alley invite them over for a drink and force them
Speaker 1: a little bit of the glass in their face, Like yeah.
Speaker 2: I just love if her Rollins had like a whole
Speaker 2: mouth of jizz just ran into the into the precinct
Speaker 2: like cause someone get a swamp kit.
Speaker 1: Whatever and you know, she's like, it's my last night
Speaker 1: as a single lady. I guess it's like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? I would that guy be like this is
Speaker 1: a red flag exactly.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, never trust a man if he's
Speaker 2: asking a woman for help, and never trust a woman
Speaker 2: if she's like, please let me fuck.
Speaker 1: You yeah out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you're like Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet he was just sweaty from all the
Speaker 2: boxes and like she got his next sweat in her fingers.
Speaker 3: She must have really done it.
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever. So they're like, wow, she knows how to flirt.
Speaker 2: She's the queen. So and we have enough from CSU
Speaker 2: to make a case. So, but they also call the
Speaker 2: victims in for a lineup. We have the bride from
Speaker 2: the Monday wedding and she can't figure it out. She
Speaker 2: only saw his silhouette. But since she's heard the voice,
Speaker 2: we're going to do one of those. And the moment
Speaker 2: this guy steps forward and says you're gonna remember me,
Speaker 2: she goes, that's him, that's him, I know it.
Speaker 3: So the voice said, he goes through.
Speaker 2: So then Benson's walking this bride out and Benson goes,
Speaker 2: love your new haircut.
Speaker 3: She goes, I needed a change.
Speaker 2: She's like, it's been a lot, but you know, I
Speaker 2: needed to call everyone and tell them that I still
Speaker 2: love Philip and this had nothing to do with Philip. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because everyone's probably like, what the fuck did you do Philip?
Speaker 2: You know they're they're pissed at him, We're pissed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she had to call everyone be like, this has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with Philip. Like I it would suck to
Speaker 2: have to tell everyone who got raped though, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess the wedding must go on. I guess hopefully
Speaker 2: they can find another Monday in the books. So the
Speaker 2: park Milano bride walks in and sees the exchange and
Speaker 2: she heard they arrested someone, and she's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I got to look at his face. That's why I'm here.
Speaker 2: I do want to help. I don't care. I need
Speaker 2: to help. So now we have all three DNAs are
Speaker 2: a match. We have the voice ID, and now we
Speaker 2: have a face I D. We have one Brooklyn, two
Speaker 2: Manhattans and met Brooklyn rape case alone. Brooklyn ds DA
Speaker 2: wants forty years and his lawyer's like, fuck that forty years.
Speaker 2: I'd rather go to trial and They're like, well, he
Speaker 2: could get a hundred years and then Leon goes, wait,
Speaker 2: so I die in prison and they go, yeah, bitch.
Speaker 2: And so Cresey's like, well, how much of a gambler
Speaker 2: are you? And given what you did, Benson ads, He goes,
Speaker 2: I'm not a bad person.
Speaker 3: You are by everyone's accounts.
Speaker 2: Crisy says you premeditated to ruin the best day of
Speaker 2: these people's lives, and Benson asks why, and then she
Speaker 2: slaps the table and screams, Leon, why, Okay, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 2: So he says, I don't know, ma'am. I guess I
Speaker 2: just got tired for waiting for my own best day.
Speaker 3: Like what, you've just.
Speaker 1: Been dreaming about your wedding day forever and that turned
Speaker 1: you into a rapist?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess this will yeah twist, So twisted music plays,
Speaker 2: Benson looks him with disgust and he accepts the deal.
Speaker 2: So now Caristie and Benson are having a recap moment
Speaker 2: and he's like, it was nice to have Rollins back here,
Speaker 2: but Benson says He's like, I may have been a
Speaker 2: little worried, and Benson goes, what do you expect?
Speaker 3: You married a wild card? And he goes, and that's
Speaker 3: what I like.
Speaker 2: And if she wanted to be back at SVU, he
Speaker 2: says he would be supportive, but Benson thinks she's looking
Speaker 2: for something new.
Speaker 3: SVU is not what she wants.
Speaker 2: And now there's like a stuffed chipmunk and a glass
Speaker 2: beauty in the beast lid.
Speaker 1: You know where the rose is under what are those called?
Speaker 1: I like calling it a beauty in the beast slid.
Speaker 1: It's like exactly, it's like what the roses? It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like a dome cat like a glass dome.
Speaker 3: Over cast a thing.
Speaker 2: I was jealous of the people who had that as
Speaker 2: a toy, Like you could buy that as a toy
Speaker 2: and the flower would and I was like so jealous.
Speaker 2: So it's it's been on Brevo bro It's been on
Speaker 2: Bruvo's desk. It's been on Bruno's desk. And so you
Speaker 2: got sick of looking at this like stuffed chipmunk she
Speaker 2: probably brought from her hicktown she and Benson goes, hey, Rollin,
Speaker 2: did you leave this on purpose?
Speaker 3: So you can come back?
Speaker 2: But it doesn't even matter because Benson doesn't have a desk,
Speaker 2: and Benson says, it's not about the desk. It's not
Speaker 2: about SVU. It's about where you belong in your life.
Speaker 2: You were unemployed for one day and she couldn't handle
Speaker 2: the boredom, and Benson goes, yeah, but like, I don't
Speaker 2: want SVU to be your safety net. She wants Amanda
Speaker 2: to find what makes her happy, healing and dealing with
Speaker 2: her demons, and Rollin says, I have some work to do,
Speaker 2: and Benson goes, you and me both, and then they
Speaker 2: take a sip from a mug and then it's this
Speaker 2: pensive music plays and that's according to the close captioning,
Speaker 2: not me. And then yeah, it's Benson's concerned and loving
Speaker 2: face and that's Dick Wolf Baby.
Speaker 3: I wonder if she comes back.
Speaker 1: She's already in the first season of season twenty seven,
Speaker 1: which somehow already has a wiki, and there's a new
Speaker 1: Chief of Detectives.
Speaker 3: Do they tell us who it is? New Chief a Dees,
Speaker 3: new Chief of Dees.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this first episode of season twenty seven is called
Speaker 1: in the Wind, and it's got Curry's back, Bruno CORESI,
Speaker 1: you know, the regulars, And then it doesn't actually have
Speaker 1: Rolins listed here, but it was underneath her she returns
Speaker 1: to the main cast as of this episode after previously departing.
Speaker 3: That's what the wiki says.
Speaker 1: So this is the first time a main cast member
Speaker 1: who's departed has returned it as a series regular since
Speaker 1: Stephanie March returned in season eleven as Alex Kmitt.
Speaker 2: But that's different because Cab it was always you know,
Speaker 2: It's just it's different even with the detem I know.
Speaker 1: But I think it just means like she was gonna
Speaker 1: be back in the opening shot, you know, so interesting
Speaker 1: because she was back. Oh after we went up, she
Speaker 1: comes back to one two through for five episodes of
Speaker 1: season twenty six. What does she come back as that?
Speaker 1: Then in season twenty six, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've never even seen this episode. Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Oh, she gets she gets a position as a sergeant
Speaker 1: in the intelligence unit. Yeah, and then she's helping people
Speaker 1: with intelligence that they keep bringing her in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting, she's a lieutenant, so maybe she's gonna come and
Speaker 1: be bat Benson's number two.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the crime, which is not really
Speaker 1: that much of a crime. This episode is based, we think,
Speaker 1: very loosely on Jennifer Wilbanks, the Runaway Bride, the very
Speaker 1: famous Runaway Bride from eight from two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: In April of two thousand and five, Jennifer Wilbanks and
Speaker 1: her fiance John Mason are gearing up for a big
Speaker 1: ass wedding at a fancy Atlanta country club. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: talking six hundred guests, twenty eight people in the wedding party,
Speaker 1: eight bridal showers.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's possible, but I read it
Speaker 1: in one of my sources that was that was I
Speaker 1: think People magazine. So that means it's gospel and it's true.
Speaker 3: So then it's right before their wedding.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that these people are getting married on a Saturday,
Speaker 1: because it's like a country club in the South, and
Speaker 1: at six hundred guests, so I'm assuming they were getting
Speaker 1: married on like April thirty at the two thousand and
Speaker 1: five They on the evening of April twenty six, two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, four days before the wedding, Mason called
Speaker 1: authorities in Duluth, Georgia, to report that his thirty two
Speaker 1: year old fiancee Jennifer, hadn't returned home from her run
Speaker 1: the next day, members of the community start searching for
Speaker 1: her and the local police. Even the local police publicly
Speaker 1: speculated this might just be a quote, a case of
Speaker 1: premarital jitters. But when she was still missing the next day,
Speaker 1: April twenty eighth, the Duluth Police Department said they were
Speaker 1: treating Jennifer's disappearance as a criminal investigation, and the FBI
Speaker 1: and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation both were also part
Speaker 1: of it. This case quickly becomes a media frenzy. Okay,
Speaker 1: her family's on all the shows begging for any information
Speaker 1: about Jennifer's disappearance. They're like on all the morning shows,
Speaker 1: the cable shows, and they're swearing up and down that
Speaker 1: she's not the kind of person to just run off
Speaker 1: without a word. I mean, at this point, the movie
Speaker 1: Runaway Bride with Julia Roberts is six years old, so
Speaker 1: it's like Runaway Bride's already like a concept in the
Speaker 1: zeitgeist from six years earlier, but you know, this is
Speaker 1: the first time we've seen maybe like a real life story.
Speaker 1: And on the twenty ninth of April, three days missing,
Speaker 1: the family offers a one hundred thousand dollars reward but
Speaker 1: on the same day as that, her fiance John gets
Speaker 1: a call from Jennifer and she's calling from a payphone
Speaker 1: and she tells him she's been kidnapped, okay, she also
Speaker 1: she also calls nine one one and tells them that
Speaker 1: she's been kidnapped and sexually assaulted by a Hispanic man
Speaker 1: and a white woman in their forties, two people in
Speaker 1: their forties, Aspanic man and a.
Speaker 3: White blonde woman.
Speaker 1: She said her captors had just released her and driven
Speaker 1: off in their blue van, but she had no idea
Speaker 1: where she was. They obviously traced her phone call to
Speaker 1: a seven eleven payphone in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and the
Speaker 1: local authorities pick her up. She tells local authorities in
Speaker 1: Albuquerque that she'd been abducted while jogging, that they'd tied
Speaker 1: her up in the van with rope. But I mean
Speaker 1: Georgia to New Mexico is far. That is very that's
Speaker 1: hours and hours and hours driving. But she told the
Speaker 1: authorities in Albuquerque she'd been abducted while jogging. They tied
Speaker 1: her up in the van with rope, and the man
Speaker 1: had raped her, and she said later she was forced
Speaker 1: to engage in sexual acts on the women and apparently
Speaker 1: she gave tons of very detailed description, like she talked
Speaker 1: about her position on the floor of the van, her surroundings,
Speaker 1: like what things looked out out the window. She even
Speaker 1: talked about the music that was playing in the van
Speaker 1: when this was all happening. And then once the FBI
Speaker 1: entered the chat, she admitted she had not been kidnapped.
Speaker 1: She simply felt overwhelmed by the stress of her impending nuptials,
Speaker 1: so she had taken forty dollars out of the ATM
Speaker 1: and boarded a bus to New Mexico. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: not one of those fourteen bridesmaids had a shoulder for
Speaker 1: you to cry on, Like, girl, you couldn't go to
Speaker 1: one friend and be like, I'm freaking out.
Speaker 3: Somebody helped me.
Speaker 1: So this was another case of missing white women syndrome, right,
Speaker 1: Like it becomes a huge case because it's like.
Speaker 3: A missing white woman.
Speaker 1: You know, she's gone for twelve hours and people are like,
Speaker 1: where where is she?
Speaker 3: Like immediately a.
Speaker 2: Family, Yeah, usually you have to wait, what is it
Speaker 2: twenty you have to wait twenty.
Speaker 1: Four hours like this and that, like the families booked
Speaker 1: and blessed on all the morning TV asking where their
Speaker 1: baby is. So like shortly after she confessed, will Banks
Speaker 1: entered it inpatient program at a mental health facility to
Speaker 1: address quote physical and mental issues end quote.
Speaker 3: But with all the.
Speaker 1: Media attention on this case, it also came out that
Speaker 1: Jennifer had been charged with shoplifting three different times in
Speaker 1: the nineties, Like in one case it was like one
Speaker 1: seven hundred and forty dollars in merged from a mall,
Speaker 1: and then she had actually served two weekends in jail
Speaker 1: for shoplifting, like ninety eight dollars in ninety eight nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight, and then in ninety six misdemeanor shoplifting for
Speaker 1: taking thirty seven dollars worth of shit from a Walmart.
Speaker 1: But like these things happened when she was in her
Speaker 1: early twenties. This is like I was likelyave the shoplifting alone. Yes,
Speaker 1: but the reason is because she became such a massive
Speaker 1: punchline like this woman, like I don't know.
Speaker 2: The moment I googled her and saw those eyes, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't eyes good, I was I remember something distinct
Speaker 2: about like her bug eyes, Like I think that she
Speaker 2: was getting like fully torched on every comedy show late
Speaker 2: night like everywhere, like this was a big this was
Speaker 2: the Coldplay jumpn couple of that summer.
Speaker 3: Okay, Like that's what was happening. Did they end up
Speaker 3: being together?
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I just saw a thing where
Speaker 1: her her husband, that is, they're both getting divorced. But
Speaker 1: like her husband is speaking out. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if they're staying together.
Speaker 2: You lose io this couple, this couple that were this one, oh,
Speaker 2: this one yeah, oh hold on. Okay, So a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks after this all blows up, she calls off
Speaker 2: the engagement. But according to People magazine, and it's the
Speaker 2: only source where I find this, John Mason.
Speaker 1: Took her back quite quickly. He took her back very quickly.
Speaker 1: They even moved into a large new home in an
Speaker 1: Atlanta suburb together, and they were apparently talking about giving
Speaker 1: marriage another shot on But on May twenty fifth, two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, so this is a month after this
Speaker 1: whole thing, she gets charged with making false statements. She
Speaker 1: pled guilty to a felony count of making a false
Speaker 1: statement and got two years probation, one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: hours of community service, and was ordered to get mental
Speaker 1: health counseling. She was all ordered to pay back the
Speaker 1: Sheriff's office five hundred and fifty dollars to cover some
Speaker 1: search costs, and the mayor of Duluth said the city
Speaker 1: spent between forty and sixty k searching for Jennifer, and
Speaker 1: she reached a settlement with the city and agreed to
Speaker 1: pay back around thirteen thousand dollars money to her city
Speaker 1: for the money that they spent searching for her. So
Speaker 1: these two are back together, and in May of two
Speaker 1: thousand and six, the couple announced that they have broken up.
Speaker 1: Or it's like a People magazine article comes out and
Speaker 1: Jennifer won't confirm her jani it, but she says, we've
Speaker 1: got some stuff to work out. And in September of
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, three months later, Jennifer sued John,
Speaker 1: claiming that when she was hospitalized after this incident, he
Speaker 1: got power of attorney over her and was controlling her finances.
Speaker 1: And then she said he made a publishing deal for
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars to sell their story and he
Speaker 1: used the money to buy them this I am assuming
Speaker 1: this big house in Atlanta suburbs and then he kicked
Speaker 1: her ass out without a penny from the sale of
Speaker 1: the or from the house or anything they kick took
Speaker 1: her out of the house, so she sued him. He
Speaker 1: denies that he stole anything from her and filed a
Speaker 1: countersuit against her for the emotional distress of being left
Speaker 1: at the altar, and then they both dropped their suits
Speaker 1: a couple months later at the beginning of two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven. This case is apparently often cited as an
Speaker 1: example of a stage kidnapping, in like there's textbooks about
Speaker 1: kidnapping where they talk about this one, but like we
Speaker 1: now have seen like Sherry Peppini and Carly Russell and
Speaker 1: like you know, the movie and the book of Gone
Speaker 1: Girl have sort of popularized this like stage kidnapping thing
Speaker 1: where like a woman disappears and like issue really gone.
Speaker 3: But our girl.
Speaker 1: Jennifer Wilbanks actually did get married in twenty ten to
Speaker 1: a man named Greg Hudson who owned a landscaping company,
Speaker 1: and they were married for eleven years, but they did
Speaker 1: get divorced in April of twenty twenty one. And I
Speaker 1: hope she's okay. I hope she's okay. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like she made a decision that
Speaker 1: she thought wasn't really going to affect anybody. And I
Speaker 1: do think making up the lie is extremely racist and
Speaker 1: like bad because they could have gone out and arrested someone,
Speaker 1: which has happened in many cases. But like it like
Speaker 1: all the authorities in Georgia when you talk to them
Speaker 1: now about it, Like the woman there's like this female
Speaker 1: sheriff who was on the case, who's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: who did it really hurt?
Speaker 3: Just her and her family?
Speaker 1: You know, like it hurt her in her But it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, people were looking for you and you were
Speaker 1: giving a racist depiction. You were like saying that you
Speaker 1: were like sending people off to find a Hispanic man
Speaker 1: who raped you.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just glad it wasn't a rapist attacking
Speaker 2: brides the night before their wedding.
Speaker 1: Yeah it wasn't. I don't think that's I don't think
Speaker 1: that's a real story. I don't think that's a real time.
Speaker 1: I'm glad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you if if.
Speaker 1: The first woman had come forward, which I understand, but
Speaker 1: it's like if you.
Speaker 3: I feel like, if you find.
Speaker 1: Out that it's brides, you immediately start looking at their vendors,
Speaker 1: like you would immediately just start looking at the d
Speaker 1: but it wasn't.
Speaker 3: That was common, but.
Speaker 2: It wasn't the vendor. It was the sailor that the
Speaker 2: vendors were using.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it wasn't until they got third girl that
Speaker 1: they actually were like, oh shit, put it together with
Speaker 1: the flowers, that it's.
Speaker 2: The whole sailor. Yeah, and then those places got it
Speaker 2: from these yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's why
Speaker 2: I said. I was like, that's clever, Like I like
Speaker 2: that they did that.
Speaker 1: I'm also surprised that that first victim didn't have any
Speaker 1: chats with Olivia Benson about the fact that she's a
Speaker 1: product of a rape and this woman has like has
Speaker 1: her son. I'm like surprised that that didn't come up.
Speaker 2: That feels like, well, they have to be his wheelhouse,
Speaker 2: they have to keep the secret.
Speaker 3: Do you think she tells her husband. I don't know.
Speaker 2: He seemed so suspicious at the door, like I don't
Speaker 2: yeah know.
Speaker 3: He was like like, it's so weird when caughtwin a man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is weird when a man comes to
Speaker 1: the door and it's just the cops asking about a
Speaker 1: robbery and they're like what's this about, Like, get out
Speaker 1: of here. You know, it's like, what are you covering up?
Speaker 3: You know? Cops?
Speaker 1: That's fine, true, they do, but that guy looked sinister
Speaker 1: looking out the window.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of like a positive, positive end
Speaker 2: so this story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we have a guest, so let's get to that.
Speaker 1: Our guest today is an actor who has recently been
Speaker 1: featured on shows like The Equalizer and Just.
Speaker 3: Like That an FBI.
Speaker 1: But you know her today as our runaway bride, Jenna Chapman.
Speaker 1: Please enjoy our chat with the lovely Elizabeth Page. Here
Speaker 1: comes the traumatized bride.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it comes the traumatized Frid.
Speaker 3: That should have actually been the type up that.
Speaker 6: Should have been dark. It was, I mean they're all
Speaker 6: dark episodes, yes, this one too.
Speaker 2: But I will say the moment I saw you run
Speaker 2: down the aisle in a wedding dress, I was like,
Speaker 2: that must have been fun film, Like was that cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: For sure.
Speaker 7: It's always fun when theyre is like hundreds of extras
Speaker 7: because you it feels, you know, especially big, which is fun.
Speaker 6: And then crying in front of all those people is
Speaker 6: a treat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're crying.
Speaker 1: We were talking about it when we recap the episode,
Speaker 1: like was really good because it was like I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell obviously it's as vus, so I know something has
Speaker 1: traumatized you. But I'm also like, she just excited she's
Speaker 1: getting married, you know, like some people are really overcome
Speaker 1: with emotion.
Speaker 6: But it was really a layered cry, A layered cry.
Speaker 3: I love that. Thank you, lots lots of stuff. So
Speaker 3: how do you how do you cry?
Speaker 6: How do I cry?
Speaker 3: As an actor?
Speaker 7: Ye?
Speaker 3: What's yeah? What's your process?
Speaker 6: Okay, my process?
Speaker 7: So actually, when I was in college, I went to
Speaker 7: acting school and one of my teachers was like, when
Speaker 7: I first had no clue how to cry as an actor,
Speaker 7: he was like, keep your eyes open as long as
Speaker 7: you possibly can, they'll start to water, and then you
Speaker 7: can like fill it with emotion, like you can kind
Speaker 7: of tap into the emotional side of it. And that's
Speaker 7: how I learned how to cry. And now I can
Speaker 7: just cry in like ten seconds.
Speaker 3: Wow. Crazy?
Speaker 2: Have you ever cried in the real world, not on
Speaker 2: set to manipulate somebody?
Speaker 6: To me?
Speaker 3: Probably, I mean.
Speaker 6: I I none comes to mind, but let's be real,
Speaker 6: I'm human.
Speaker 3: Getting out of a ticket.
Speaker 6: Oh you know what in fact.
Speaker 7: Yes, when I was in high school, actually before I
Speaker 7: learned this trick, I got caught drinking at a concert
Speaker 7: and I told the cop I was pregnant, and I
Speaker 7: started to cry and I said, the reason why I'm
Speaker 7: throwing up in this at the concert is because I
Speaker 7: was pregnant.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was good. And they drove me home and
Speaker 6: let me.
Speaker 3: Go so that you could go have your baby. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that I could have maybe you're teen pregnancy. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I have manipula thinking, thinking I love that. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: So I was lightly poking around on your Instagram and
Speaker 1: I saw you posting about the episode and stuff and
Speaker 1: being like, I guess I can stop bugging my reps
Speaker 1: to get on this show. Had you auditioned a bunch
Speaker 1: of times before this episode.
Speaker 6: So many times?
Speaker 7: I'm sure you hear from all the actors that you
Speaker 7: have on that this is like a bucket list item
Speaker 7: on the resume, And I just couldn't get on, Like,
Speaker 7: I auditioned probably ten fifteen times nothing and back when called.
Speaker 2: The fact that they're bringing you back is already huge,
Speaker 2: you know, right, yeah?
Speaker 3: Why you they just.
Speaker 7: That's that's what you're like, My reps say, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 7: are you saying that to me just to make me
Speaker 7: like feel okay?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I bombed an audition in twenty fourteen, and honey,
Speaker 2: I didn't get one to last year for four Law
Speaker 2: and Order for us View. Yeah, it's one of myfical moments.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I've had two auditions in eleven years.
Speaker 2: So if they kept bringing you back, they were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: see it, we see her.
Speaker 7: You know she can cry, I can cry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I mean we've talked to people like
Speaker 1: Megan Faye came on our podcast and was like, I
Speaker 1: auditioned so many times and then she got the one
Speaker 1: that where she was like this really big, juicy part.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, they're just waiting for the right
Speaker 1: thing for you and for you. They were like, run
Speaker 1: away Bride, run Away.
Speaker 2: We just talked an actress to audition for fifteen years
Speaker 2: for it, and I find it a really good part.
Speaker 2: She's a fucked up person in it, that's incredible.
Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, on one of these shows, like the
Speaker 6: more trauma or like Chaos you and Sue, the better.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, yeah, so you auditioned for lots. Were
Speaker 2: you a fan of the show When.
Speaker 6: I was little, I watched it all the time.
Speaker 7: I watched Law and Order like yeah, and then I
Speaker 7: watched Criminal Minds and other very dark shows.
Speaker 6: And then I don't know, they started to scare me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like when as I got.
Speaker 7: Older and I like started to experience the cute, actual
Speaker 7: scary parts of life, I was like, oh, watching these
Speaker 7: shows makes me make affirms that they could happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure changed our mental wellness. I would say,
Speaker 2: are you okay? Yeah, no, I'm like, I'm like crazy.
Speaker 2: There was a leak in my like ceiling doorway, and
Speaker 2: I was the first thought was someone to slit their
Speaker 2: wrists in the bathtub and I have to run upstairs.
Speaker 2: So I run upstairs, I'm banging, and she's just like, hey,
Speaker 2: I was showering.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's fine, I'll call this.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure you weren't, you know,
Speaker 2: overflowing bathtub.
Speaker 6: Okay, they should pay for some type of therapy.
Speaker 7: I think, yeah, I that is I'm that's crazy, but
Speaker 7: I get it completely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And do you live in New York, Elizabeth?
Speaker 6: So I just moved.
Speaker 7: I lived in Manhattan for thirteen years. In Brooklyn, I
Speaker 7: guess for a few years too, and then I just
Speaker 7: moved to Montclair.
Speaker 3: New Jersey.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I was just there last summer.
Speaker 6: It's cute.
Speaker 3: It's really cute.
Speaker 1: It's like where a lot of artists people live to
Speaker 1: be able to like get to the city.
Speaker 6: That's exactly why I lived here. Yeah.
Speaker 7: We wanted, my husband and I we wanted to buy
Speaker 7: and have it not be a shoe box.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. So yeah, I was just there over the summer.
Speaker 1: And there's a really cute little swim club called Montclair
Speaker 1: Beach Club. If you want to join a pool, okay,
Speaker 1: And they let me bring your own alcohol, which I
Speaker 1: thought was really fun.
Speaker 6: B B is huge in months. Yeah I'm learning.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh okay, so it's but I lived in the
Speaker 7: New York for a long time and then I made
Speaker 7: the like two weeks ago, we just moved.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like the reality of SVU two,
Speaker 1: Like I was. I lived in New York for eleven years.
Speaker 1: Lisa lives there currently, Like, uh, you know.
Speaker 3: Where are you now?
Speaker 1: I'm in La now And like just I would be
Speaker 1: on the subway and just like replay s few episodes.
Speaker 3: It's like it really is like a sickness.
Speaker 1: But you know, I also think it helps keep people
Speaker 1: on their toes and it makes you aware of your
Speaker 1: surroundings and you know, like all of the things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's helped.
Speaker 1: It's helped little girls not get kidnapped because they've saw
Speaker 1: something on SVU that they learned from the show.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 6: I like three months ago, maybe was one of the
Speaker 6: catalysts whe I moved. I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I got followed for the first time, like really followed,
Speaker 7: and I was on the subway and I hated it
Speaker 7: and I.
Speaker 6: Had so many nightmares and those memories are gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I moved, how did you how'd you
Speaker 2: get the person to stop following?
Speaker 3: What was that's fucked?
Speaker 6: Yeah, super fucked.
Speaker 7: So I was actually with my husband and I noticed
Speaker 7: this woman start to take like pictures and videos and
Speaker 7: I thought they were of me, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 7: maybe I'm just being crazy, that's why would you be
Speaker 7: taking pictures and videos of me?
Speaker 6: And then so but I still was scared.
Speaker 7: So we moved and then she turned and followed me
Speaker 7: and like got around my husband to keep taking pictures
Speaker 7: of me, and we were on the subway and then
Speaker 7: we got off and she got off and started to
Speaker 7: like run after us, and so we started to run
Speaker 7: and we ran. We were on the we were transferring
Speaker 7: from the L to the G. So we went underground
Speaker 7: to go to turn around, and we got on the
Speaker 7: subway before she got there.
Speaker 3: Damn, oh my god.
Speaker 6: This is like nine am on a Saturday.
Speaker 3: Do you think she thought you were somebody else? Or
Speaker 3: was she I think she was crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think she was crazy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think because in no world would she like
Speaker 7: know who I am.
Speaker 1: I know, but you kind of have a look. You
Speaker 1: kind of have a look. I feel like when I
Speaker 1: was looking up you know, things about you, like your
Speaker 1: IMDb and stuff, I was like, she kind of has
Speaker 1: a look of like you look like a couple of
Speaker 1: other people.
Speaker 3: I feel like for sure.
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if she's like it's Measter from you know,
Speaker 1: or whatever, it's Minka Colling. Even if it was, you
Speaker 1: don't act like crazy, you don't act crazy, but you know,
Speaker 1: you know, crazy, it would be that's so sary.
Speaker 7: Run. I thought the running and she was smiling, and
Speaker 7: also I was with I was with my husband, which
Speaker 7: I was like, why the fuck aren't you scared of that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like I if I.
Speaker 6: Was like alone, whatever, I would honestly be less scared.
Speaker 6: But then I was like, does she have people waiting.
Speaker 7: Somewhere like and so having you know, this guy isn't
Speaker 7: scary to her.
Speaker 3: She didn't say anything. She wasn't like no, I just
Speaker 3: need your picture. Wow, that's so creepy. That's so creepy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Can I ask another question? What about Mountclair? Yeah?
Speaker 1: About Mountclair's Yeah, I saw also on your Instagram lights
Speaker 1: talking again something about how you said they wrote your
Speaker 1: your haircut in So what was the story with like
Speaker 1: you having shorter hair because in the episode they made
Speaker 1: it seem like, you know, you just needed a fresh
Speaker 1: start after the attack and like what happened for sure?
Speaker 7: So we shot the first chunk and then I changed
Speaker 7: my hair all the time, and then I cut it
Speaker 7: a month later and then they called me two days
Speaker 7: after I cut my hair and they were like, hey,
Speaker 7: we wrote you another scene and I was like, that's awesome.
Speaker 7: I cut all my hair off, so I don't know
Speaker 7: if I'm want to be able to do this they
Speaker 7: so then they sent me new sides, and it just
Speaker 7: had that one little line like I just needed a
Speaker 7: fresh start.
Speaker 8: Great, it worked perfectly good Okay, I thought so too,
Speaker 8: because also it kind of gave you the impression that
Speaker 8: more time had passed, which is how the real law
Speaker 8: and order would go, Like, for sure, go to a
Speaker 8: lineup three days after you go to the police, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like you right?
Speaker 1: So I think it was like it made it seem
Speaker 1: like more time had passed. You'd gotten a haircut, you'd
Speaker 1: sort of you know, yeah, no, it worked.
Speaker 3: You got an outdoor scene. Love that, Yes, you can
Speaker 3: do more time.
Speaker 1: Run out of the church, you've got to be in
Speaker 1: the hospital. The lineup, you're one on one with Benson
Speaker 1: with rawlins, you know. Yeah, we call it the bingo card.
Speaker 1: I'd say you've got a pretty good one.
Speaker 7: Hi, Yes, I mean Kelly and Mrishka are so amazing.
Speaker 7: It was like, you know, people say like, don't meet
Speaker 7: your heroes whatever, whatever, and a lot of the times
Speaker 7: that has been true for me with them. They are
Speaker 7: so much cooler than you could even imagine, which is wild.
Speaker 2: Any specifics working with them, any fun or like memories
Speaker 2: from the shoots.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the when I after I run away and it's
Speaker 7: just us three in that little like bridal suite or whatever.
Speaker 3: It's like a very.
Speaker 6: Male dominated set.
Speaker 7: I would say most everyone working there is a man,
Speaker 7: but you still all of the female voices are incredibly hurt,
Speaker 7: which is wonderful. And people were trying to give me
Speaker 7: notes that just like weren't working, and Kelly like pulled
Speaker 7: me aside and was like, you're an animal.
Speaker 6: In a cage.
Speaker 7: And then Murushka was like, take as much time as
Speaker 7: you need, and then I did, and yeah, that was
Speaker 7: the That was the take that we used, was the
Speaker 7: animal in the cage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what does that mean?
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I being honest, Yeah, I just
Speaker 6: I I heard it and I don't I did something.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it really says something about I feel like culturally,
Speaker 1: like the wedding industrial complex that like you would go
Speaker 1: through an attack like this but still show up, get
Speaker 1: the hair and makeup done, like cause you're like two
Speaker 1: hundred people are coming.
Speaker 3: This is what I've been, you know, quote unquote stupid.
Speaker 1: All these like silly stereotypes about weddings or whatever. And
Speaker 1: because I've seen people go through their weddings, I've heard
Speaker 1: stories of like people I know in friends of friends
Speaker 1: who have gone through their weddings, like knowing they're basically
Speaker 1: going to get divorced as soon as they get back
Speaker 1: from the honeymoon, or like this is a mistake, or
Speaker 1: I just found out they cheated like two days ago,
Speaker 1: but we've already paid for all these vendors and this
Speaker 1: and that, and like obviously your your character story is
Speaker 1: like a brutal assault, and she's probably somewhat traumatized. But
Speaker 1: I think it like speaks to the fact that like
Speaker 1: women especially are expected to just like go through with it,
Speaker 1: like it's your wedding, It's the biggest day of your life,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what happens, like just get to
Speaker 1: that altar.
Speaker 7: I never thought of that, but that is a brilliant
Speaker 7: take that I never It didn't.
Speaker 1: Even crust because I think that's kind of what she means,
Speaker 1: like you're an animal in a cage.
Speaker 3: Is like all these people are like, what's wrong? Are
Speaker 3: you okay?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, and she's just like, get me
Speaker 1: out of here. I've had this horrible trauma and I
Speaker 1: and probably like only societal pressure is why I'm even
Speaker 1: here in the dress right now, you know, did they
Speaker 1: just what did you think of that wedding dress?
Speaker 3: Was that your style? Uh?
Speaker 7: How do I say this the biggest bitch on the planet,
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it's my style.
Speaker 6: I would not say it's my style, though I do
Speaker 6: think I don't know what it is.
Speaker 7: Don't honestly like, please events listening, don't look it up.
Speaker 7: I haven't had the best luck with They really love
Speaker 7: jewel tones on shows Purple, they love a jewel tone,
Speaker 7: and they love sparkles and frills for like special gowns.
Speaker 7: And I kind of got all of that thrown up
Speaker 7: on me, which was fun, and my hair was great
Speaker 7: and yeah.
Speaker 2: Great, Well, there's not that many wedding episodes. And then
Speaker 2: the other one is is a different it's different. The
Speaker 2: Serry Applebee, I feel, is like a wedding one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh Sherry Appleby love her as the groom
Speaker 1: had raped her.
Speaker 7: Shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so that's and then she's also in a
Speaker 2: more She's also in one where she is in the
Speaker 2: military and she gets brutally assaulted by like a bunch
Speaker 2: of other military guys and her dad's in the military,
Speaker 2: and it's so twisted.
Speaker 7: I just did an episode of The Equalizer that is
Speaker 7: now canceled.
Speaker 3: But is it canceled?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got canceled.
Speaker 3: We had Lisa.
Speaker 1: Lapiro on our podcast and she was so nice. She
Speaker 1: was one of the main characters on that.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a lot of scenes with Oh is
Speaker 6: Lisa Lisa, but she mine was also. I was in
Speaker 6: the army and that's fucked up shit happened to me
Speaker 6: by all the people in the armies. Yeah, crazy, not good.
Speaker 3: I mean we did a crime.
Speaker 2: They found a head on Fort Bragg and they were like, no,
Speaker 2: nothing to see here, Like they protect each other. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because if they're charged with crimes, then they're felons and
Speaker 2: they can't have guns, and they want their military armed.
Speaker 3: And they don't want women.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a pretty good way to deter a
Speaker 1: female participation.
Speaker 2: That's But how was The Equalizer? Did you meet Queen Latifa?
Speaker 7: I did meet Quean Latifa, I met I met all
Speaker 7: of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was an interesting experience. It was an interesting experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was like a hard day's work.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a hard day's work.
Speaker 7: I think I think The Equalizer the the consensus there
Speaker 7: is that it's their long, long, hard days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that shoots in New York.
Speaker 6: Yeah, huh a shout in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about also did an episode?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And then just like that, Oh I sure did, I
Speaker 6: sure did. I actually I got far for a different
Speaker 6: show that casting director was doing. And then I think
Speaker 6: I got this kind of like as like a bone
Speaker 6: because I didn't get that other thing.
Speaker 3: We'll take it. Yeah, what was your episode? I've been
Speaker 3: I've just been.
Speaker 2: I just got into one of the last ones of
Speaker 2: the series, right.
Speaker 6: I think, Okay, I'm not gonna lie to you. I
Speaker 6: didn't watch.
Speaker 3: That's probably for the best. That's for the best.
Speaker 6: Didn't watch. I think? Are there three seasons?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What is your character? What does she do?
Speaker 7: I small part, I like kind of that chame Kristin
Speaker 7: Davis like kind of but not she interprets it as that,
Speaker 7: and then.
Speaker 3: Oh, are you walking at the store when she's shopping
Speaker 3: for the outfits?
Speaker 1: Correct? Yes, okay too, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: You're like kind of like maybe this cut would be better,
Speaker 1: and she thinks you're like you know that shape, yeah,
Speaker 1: small outfit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 7: So yeah, that was I mean, Sex and the City
Speaker 7: was everything growing up. And also I lived in New
Speaker 7: York City for so many years. I'm sure like you
Speaker 7: guys that it's like it's kind of just a part
Speaker 7: of who you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a woven into the fabric, you know. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, we've really wait, you've made a movie.
Speaker 3: You made a movie. Let's talk about Yeah.
Speaker 1: I made on this movie on your IMDb called BB
Speaker 1: and you're credited as a producer. Also, but also we
Speaker 1: noticed that friend of the Pod Tammy Blanchard is in
Speaker 1: your movie.
Speaker 3: A friend of the Pod.
Speaker 1: She came on our podcast and was a real character.
Speaker 1: We loved talking to her, Like spelled.
Speaker 3: A lot to me.
Speaker 7: Oh she was nothing less. No, she is so outrageous.
Speaker 7: She would come she didn't and I'm not saying this
Speaker 7: is a cut. She would come on set make up
Speaker 7: every word that she said, and it was wonderful.
Speaker 6: She was so good in it.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I I So I wasn't actually brought on
Speaker 7: as a producer until I was the lead of the movie.
Speaker 7: And then I was it was about me, a woman,
Speaker 7: and there was only men at the top, and I
Speaker 7: was like, this doesn't actually make sense, And so I
Speaker 7: inserted myself in a lot of ways, and then finally
Speaker 7: I was like, I think I should be a producer,
Speaker 7: and they were like, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for yourself, get it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so yes, but that happened. It's a little bit
Speaker 6: of a slow burn. But it is a psychological thriller
Speaker 6: if you're into such a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our listeners, I would say, love psychological thrillers.
Speaker 3: I love them. Where can we watch.
Speaker 6: It anywhere that you rent movies?
Speaker 3: Okay? Cool? Yeah it might be.
Speaker 6: It might be available to like watch with ads somewhere.
Speaker 2: I don't actually to buy our own demons must confront
Speaker 2: a relentless stalker.
Speaker 3: Fuck yeah. Someone.
Speaker 6: I was thinking about this the other day because someone
Speaker 6: was like, have you seen this episode? Whenever it came out?
Speaker 7: And I hate watching stuff and I for a lot
Speaker 7: of reasons. But in the movie, the producer came up
Speaker 7: to me and Bebe and he was like, hey, you know,
Speaker 7: if you have like a double chin in one of
Speaker 7: the takes, you want me to just do this? And
Speaker 7: he patted his chin and I was like, no, if
Speaker 7: for whatever reason, I'm going mentally insane and I have
Speaker 7: a double chin, I think that's supposed to be there,
Speaker 7: and so I just I yeah, anyway.
Speaker 1: That's so few people can look flawless while they're having
Speaker 1: a mental breakdown.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Also, that's crazy to expect that. That feels like
Speaker 6: a really terrible movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's another reason.
Speaker 6: Also I inserted myself at the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah you did something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys are really clue wild times wild?
Speaker 1: What what else? What other things do you have like
Speaker 1: coming up? Do you have stuff? I have stuff. I
Speaker 1: think I saw you had like some upcoming projects.
Speaker 6: But yeah, no clue when they're going to come out.
Speaker 7: But I a sci fi thriller called Heartworm is going
Speaker 7: to come out at some point.
Speaker 6: And then actually I think you know John.
Speaker 7: Rudnisky Yeah, okay, yes, care do you too?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've met before. He's done my show.
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, he's insane and I love him, but he's
Speaker 6: psychotic and I'm doing I did a movie with him
Speaker 6: and that is coming out. No idea when.
Speaker 7: But it's called Handle with Care and that's a rom com.
Speaker 7: So okay, it's lighter, which is fun.
Speaker 3: Are you two love interests?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's my husband. We are like the comedic best friends. Okay,
Speaker 6: of the lead couple gets a divorce and so we
Speaker 6: like helped them through.
Speaker 2: It okay, hell yeah, yeah, I love John, but he
Speaker 2: is oh I know, Gina brilliant too, but he is
Speaker 2: always going through something mentally.
Speaker 6: I was supposed to call him yesterday and I forgot
Speaker 6: so sorry.
Speaker 2: Kind to break up hopelessly and love panicked about what's next.
Speaker 3: Always work, yeah, always.
Speaker 7: And he like he'll be like, I'm never gonna get
Speaker 7: a job again. I'm like, John, you have two things
Speaker 7: that you're filming right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like that's insane.
Speaker 1: This was great, Thank you so much, thanks for having
Speaker 1: talking about your time on sv and definitely we'll see
Speaker 1: you back on the show again.
Speaker 3: They're not afraid to They're not afraid to bring people back.
Speaker 6: I have no clue when these movies are coming out,
Speaker 6: but I'll post them on my Instagram. Underscore on just
Speaker 6: great epage, Yes my Instagram. Yeah, can't get rid of
Speaker 6: those underscores quite yet.
Speaker 7: So one day loved her, loved her.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to call her Lizzie, but we didn't.
Speaker 1: Really clear that Lizzie p Yeah. No, she was great
Speaker 1: and wow, yeah she got to. I mean when you
Speaker 1: see her wedding dress on her Instagram, I think we
Speaker 1: saw it, Like you're like, yeah, I could see why
Speaker 1: you hated the one that you had to wear in
Speaker 1: the show. It was not not fashioning more bridal.
Speaker 2: But I know, I wonder if they had it in
Speaker 2: their storage or something. It was kind of like glitter
Speaker 2: off the shoulder of a of a bygone era.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it is fun to get to be on
Speaker 1: the stand run out of a church.
Speaker 3: She got to do so much.
Speaker 2: Wait, do you know that one of the New Orleans
Speaker 2: convicts is still on the lamb?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like one hundred and twenty plus days. Wow,
Speaker 2: that's pretty exciting. I mean, he is a it's a
Speaker 2: double murderer guy, but maybe he killed the right people.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you're you've been watching a lot of dexter.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I have to, like I have to
Speaker 2: talk it over in my head to justify how much
Speaker 2: I love jail breaks, even though the killers.
Speaker 3: Even though killers get out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if your eye lamb this long, this is
Speaker 2: I bet it's one of the longest ever.
Speaker 3: Like, I bet he's out there might be.
Speaker 1: A say, one of the longest ever for like modern times,
Speaker 1: because like back in the day, I feel like people
Speaker 1: used to like Ted Bundy got out and was gone
Speaker 1: for a few days. I mean, like you're maybe even
Speaker 1: a few weeks. Like people used to get out and
Speaker 1: then get returned later, but now I think with like
Speaker 1: credit cards and ATM machines and CCTV and like all them.
Speaker 3: Mon.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like three months is a really long time
Speaker 1: to be on the lamb unless he got out of
Speaker 1: the country somehow.
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope he got on a boat. That's
Speaker 2: like what I hope for him is he got on
Speaker 2: a boat. But I don't know how he could have
Speaker 2: planned it. Maybe he stole a boat, but then that
Speaker 2: would have red flags, like I don't know, well, because
Speaker 2: it's not like you can go to your friend's house.
Speaker 3: They're watching your friends.
Speaker 2: I bet Oh I got a tattoo in Denver too,
Speaker 2: Oh you did. Yeah, it's kind of embarrassing. I got
Speaker 2: a yin yang. I'm white, but I like it, but
Speaker 2: as little rainbow dots. I don't know if you could cut.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's cute, that looks great. Yeah, just a quick
Speaker 2: tat and have you know, because I hadn't gotten tattooed.
Speaker 3: In a while.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, it fucking hurt, dude. Ooh,
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's like waxing. It doesn't get better
Speaker 1: just because you're doing it all the time, you know,
Speaker 1: it's always sucked.
Speaker 2: No, it actually felt worse. It felt like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: am I never going to get another one again?
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh I will empty threats.
Speaker 2: I just want hand tattoos, but I know I can't
Speaker 2: get them and it drives me crazy. But anyways, this
Speaker 2: guy might be hiding out in some sort of farm,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, did he have a planned where
Speaker 2: their letters?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Was he just part of this kid? Like you know
Speaker 2: so many questions to be able to survive. Yeah, might
Speaker 2: be for that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like he might be living just
Speaker 1: like in the woods. But then what are you doing
Speaker 1: killing animals for food? Like I don't know what, what's this?
Speaker 3: Find a cabin and you slip the throat of whose
Speaker 3: it is?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Always possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our brain is so fucked.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I say things so casually, but I guess
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 1: Someone was trying to tell me how like they were
Speaker 1: reading a book for book club and like it involved
Speaker 1: something about like child harm, and they were like I
Speaker 1: might not be able to keep reading this, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like really.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I have a podcast about
Speaker 1: lon order Resvu, Like every single week I read about
Speaker 1: child arm like pretty much, and like I was like,
Speaker 1: imagine if I was just like, I actually can't do
Speaker 1: this one. It's hitting me too hard, like it would
Speaker 1: be every single fucking episode. But I'm a different I mean,
Speaker 1: people are built differently. But let's like, well, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like Benson says, it really never gets easier. They
Speaker 1: all just stick with much like a tattoo. Much like
Speaker 1: a tattoo or getting your vagina waxed, it doesn't get
Speaker 1: easier to read about harm against children. But I would
Speaker 1: not I would not not stop reading a book.
Speaker 2: Instagram is shoving down my throat this like at home
Speaker 2: bikini laser machine, and I'm like, uh uh, I don't
Speaker 2: think I can handle it, but I won't.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're they're shoving it down my throat.
Speaker 1: There's so much stuff that they're shoving down my throat
Speaker 1: online and I bought. I bought one thing on Instagram
Speaker 1: that I then hold our friend will to buy and
Speaker 1: then immediately was like, don't buy it.
Speaker 3: It's from China. I got it. It's bad. Don't get
Speaker 3: it like it.
Speaker 1: I've only gotten duped on Instagram like twice, once buying
Speaker 1: one of those folders that's supposed to be like your
Speaker 1: death folder, and it's supposed to be like this super
Speaker 1: organized way to like put your like put your documents
Speaker 1: and like passwords and everything, you know, and it came
Speaker 1: like literally something I could have gotten at a dollar store.
Speaker 3: It was like so bad.
Speaker 1: And then I also got Rosy a moon from China,
Speaker 1: like a moon that lights up when she was obsessed
Speaker 1: with the moon, and it broke in like a day.
Speaker 3: Was awful. But no more.
Speaker 1: I will not do any more Instagram. Will not get
Speaker 1: duped by Instagram anymore.
Speaker 2: If anyone is buying this like purple laser bikini thing,
Speaker 2: please let me know how it feels.
Speaker 1: Listen. I would not get it. I don't think anything
Speaker 1: like that on Instagram is going to work.
Speaker 3: If it was.
Speaker 1: Real, there would be like celebrities or like people that
Speaker 1: they paid a lot of money to telling you like this, Wow,
Speaker 1: this actually fucking works. I feel like and even that
Speaker 1: is a stretch, Like I don't think something that is
Speaker 1: gonna work personally, But.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You think if there's no celebs, it's not.
Speaker 1: Real and paid reviews like I just don't not no celebs,
Speaker 1: it's not real, Like I would want you to have
Speaker 1: one personal friend that you know, tell you I got
Speaker 1: this and it rocks, like I don't you know, and
Speaker 1: then like I mean, it is sort of like if
Speaker 1: a celebrity is willing to like put their name on
Speaker 1: a product like that, I almost feel like they've tested
Speaker 1: it or like there's been you know, like that that
Speaker 1: is crazy precedent because like Oprah's put her name on
Speaker 1: shit that is bullshit.
Speaker 3: But like I'm saying, at least for Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so funny. You know, I want a ce
Speaker 2: ipl device. I mean it comes with safety glasses.
Speaker 1: Okay, which I do wear when I get lasered at
Speaker 1: the laserer place. Like I mean, I go to a
Speaker 1: laser place that's that's very like reputable and good and
Speaker 1: it's so cheap.
Speaker 3: But that's here, so I don't know. Oh well, she's
Speaker 3: putting it on her face. Oh my god, I would
Speaker 3: not do that. I would not do that. Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 3: But I have gotten my upper lip a lasered and
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: That's my Anyway, let's get to the post mortem episode
Speaker 1: we have to.
Speaker 2: I feel like that the ads for hair removal stuff
Speaker 2: have body hair on them.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I'm not to notice that was Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a razor going down a smooth leg. You're like, what
Speaker 1: what is this? No, the hair is out, and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of impressed. I'm impressed. It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: So that's good. What's next? Real blood in period commercials?
Speaker 2: Will say, I just saw online that it wasn't just
Speaker 2: in the commercials that they truly were doing the testing
Speaker 2: of the pads and tamps with water and saline, which
Speaker 2: makes sense where they're always leaking all the goddamn time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. They only switched it like two years ago.
Speaker 2: That's insanity. Yeah, it's really it's fucks up. Bottom line
Speaker 2: of this episode.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you want my post mortem review,
Speaker 1: a post mortem review.
Speaker 3: I mean, so it is wild.
Speaker 1: I feel like we really barely get a fucking motive
Speaker 1: from this guy except that he's always wanted to have
Speaker 1: his happy day and didn't get it. It's like very
Speaker 1: like it just that doesn't it doesn't really click for me.
Speaker 1: But in the Jennifer Wilbanks case, I do. I am
Speaker 1: very interested in how it was so quickly blown up,
Speaker 1: mostly because she's a white woman, and they'll blow up
Speaker 1: the miss a missing white woman case so bad. And
Speaker 1: then also if a miss if a missing white woman
Speaker 1: does something bad, it also gets quadruple blown up like
Speaker 1: if it was if it wasn't real, it's even worse.
Speaker 1: So this this lady, like, I mean, she shouldn't have
Speaker 1: made up this story. It was a racist accusation. And
Speaker 1: I don't think her life was ever the same. I
Speaker 1: don't think she ever could have known that it was
Speaker 1: gonna happen, what was gonna happen when she just boarded
Speaker 1: a bus to Santa Fe because she was scared about
Speaker 1: having a six hundred person wedding at a country club.
Speaker 3: It's a lot, it's.
Speaker 2: A lot of food, and I'm sorry to all of
Speaker 2: those if you sense some suffering underneath my voice and
Speaker 2: the intro and outro today. But I am trying my best.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of liquids around me. I did
Speaker 2: order food. You know, I'm trying. I'm really trying. Oh gosh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think my bodega knew I was having a hard
Speaker 2: time too.
Speaker 3: My bodego used to know I was having a hard time.
Speaker 1: When they would deliver food to me, and they were
Speaker 1: on the corner like they were I'd be like, you
Speaker 1: need to bring it upstairs, like I cannot leave my apartment.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but yeah, this episode we get Rollins and
Speaker 1: Careesy coseplaying as themselves as rich people having a wedding.
Speaker 3: I don't know they were Canutai. They're cute.
Speaker 2: They really, I really really like their relationship on the show.
Speaker 2: We've never really had that before, I don't think.
Speaker 1: As we're recording this, it's the season twenty seven premieeres tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So oh my god, wait, did you dive in? Did
Speaker 3: you see?
Speaker 2: I see his daughter on the on the fashion and
Speaker 2: then hell I shared it over.
Speaker 3: I shared it to our I shared it to our instrument. God,
Speaker 3: I was like that. So she's in a Nike Kids
Speaker 3: fashion show.
Speaker 2: So Chanelle walks she's so cute, and then the girl
Speaker 2: that's supposed to go after her is like younger and
Speaker 2: shyer and like won't go, and so Chanelle grabs her
Speaker 2: hand and walks her down and like helps her pose
Speaker 2: at the end, and I just thought that was sweet.
Speaker 1: It was like, it's like sweet, but it's also just
Speaker 1: like they're raising such a good person. That's such a
Speaker 1: good person thing to do. Yeah, you know, like she's
Speaker 1: just like a great little soul. I love her, Chanelle,
Speaker 1: come on the pod. What are you gonna get her
Speaker 1: in an episode? I feel like she should be in
Speaker 1: an episode where she's just like I saw the man
Speaker 1: go that.
Speaker 2: Way, or she's focusing on modeling. Yeah, no, I can't wait. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to go to the SVU diner this weekend.
Speaker 3: What's the SVU diner? They're doing press again.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like an SVU Law and Order like
Speaker 2: pop up diner coffee situation. But it's also Taylor Swift's
Speaker 2: album is coming out this weekend.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of soul cycle. Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you've got a lot on your list. If you
Speaker 1: can't make the diner, it's okay, But if you.
Speaker 3: Can, you get no.
Speaker 2: People are texting me they want to take me to
Speaker 2: the diner. Listen, I'm gonna go to the diner, but
Speaker 2: I'll have to plan it around my Taylor Swift weekend.
Speaker 2: I have a lot a lot going on, A lot
Speaker 2: a lot going on at the moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into this week's what would sister peg do.
Speaker 1: In light of the fact that the true crime really highlights,
Speaker 1: you know, missing white women and how that blows up
Speaker 1: in the media, I think we know that the opposite
Speaker 1: is true for women of color. So this week we'd
Speaker 1: like to point you to the Black and Missing Foundation.
Speaker 1: Their mission is to bring awareness to missing people of color,
Speaker 1: provide vital resources and tools to missing people's families and friends,
Speaker 1: and to educate the minority community on personal safety. So
Speaker 1: to report a missing person, to search for missing person,
Speaker 1: or to write into their tip line, head over to
Speaker 1: Black and Missing, Inc Dot com. There's more information on
Speaker 1: there as well, and you can find that link in
Speaker 1: our show notes as well as in a story we
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Speaker 2: And next week we will be doing Ryan from season four,
Speaker 2: episode thirteen, Taylor Coded, and we're so excited. I guess
Speaker 2: watch it on Hulu or if you canceled Hulu Peacock
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 3: I don't know, get a DVD.
Speaker 1: I know I didn't cancel my Hulu because I was like,
Speaker 1: I need it for work, but and Simpson's Trivia is
Speaker 1: coming up, like I'd be yeah, but then I'll cancel it.
Speaker 1: Then I'll cancel it, but they put them back on,
Speaker 1: so who knows. All right, Bye, guys, Thank you so
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