1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: I have two very special guests here with me today 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: as we are getting ready for election day on November fifth, 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, right, and that's the last day to vote. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: You can still vote early. We just want to make 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: sure we stress that because that's my plan, just so 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: nothing goes wrong if you can go as early as possible. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: But doctor Usef Salim is here and Jasiah X is 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: here with us today and we are talking about they 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: not like us. A summit on black and Brown men 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: and the vote. Yes, okay, we were just talking about 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: being inside the plane. I would love for you to 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: say what you said to make a young woman who's 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: never voted before decide to go out and vote. 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: So we had this summit on Tuesday in Pittsburgh, a 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: summit on Black and Brown men in the vote. 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: We had Fat Joe, we had bun Bee core. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: Day, doctor Useph Salam, we had Vola Davis because we 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: had to bring you know, black women into that conversation 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: as well. And so we had a young woman ask 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: a question. And really what the young woman was saying 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: was she grew up in a very religious household and 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: told as a young person that separation of church and state, 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: like we don't do anything for the government. 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: We just do stuff for God. 25 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: So she had never voted, and so she was asking, like, 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: you know, what do you say to somebody like me? 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: And doctor useelf Salam talked about how we're inside of 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 2: this plan. 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: Do you want to break down what you say? 30 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: It like? 31 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: That's to me, it becomes so clear once you're behind 32 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: the curtain on this side, right, being so close to 33 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: the pain, being in pain, being one of those who've 34 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: been run over by the spike wheels of justice. And 35 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: then now to say. 36 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: Oh shucks. 37 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: I used to say the system is broken. I used 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 4: to see I used to say racism is alive and well, 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: and then my eldest had to remind me, no, the 40 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: system is not broken. It's operating exactly as it was 41 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: designed in the minds of the people that created it. 42 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: The fact that racism is alive, it's alive and sick. 43 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: And so what I was trying to get at was 44 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: the fact that we are right now inside of someone 45 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: else's plan. Our plan is not like, Okay, we got 46 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: to plan for them for the weekend. Right, they got 47 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: a weekend plan for us, right, spind that check and 48 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: get it right back that check don't be coming back, right. 49 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 4: They got a plan for us that literally supersedes our 50 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: life times with the nests. And if we not aware 51 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: and we're not planning in opposition but also in positivity 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: for ourselves, then we fall victim in the worst way 53 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: because it's a long road. Like it's literally like we 54 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: want change now, and change is not necessarily now. But 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 4: the change that happens now is the fact that you 56 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: do something, you live your life on purpose and with 57 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: the purpose you add to the greater good. 58 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: And doctor Yusef Salam, you are one of the exonerated five, 59 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: oh man, and it's such a pleasure to have you 60 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: up here today. Imagine being part of the system that, 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: like you said, did exactly what it was supposed to 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: do right and operate it the way that it was. 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: And I see that you are now suing Donald Trump 64 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: for defamation, rightfully so, because he just says things that 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: aren't even factually correct. And even decades later, after taking 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: out that huge ad, you know, calling for the death 67 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: penalty at the time for the quote unquote Central Park five, 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: he still cannot to this day admit that what he 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: did was wrong or even apologize. Like what is like 70 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: can't you just say, because first of all, there was 71 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: no reason for him to even do that, Like, I 72 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: don't even know why you're spending money taking out an 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: ad when there's so many things going on in this world. 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing you focused on. But then he also 75 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: said that you all plaged guilty and killed someone, which 76 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: is not even true. So just for everybody listening, because 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: because people who are listening in case they don't know 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: the details of what happened in this defamation suit, just 79 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: give us a quick rundown. 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing. 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: About it is that this is not about, you know, 82 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: a smear on his campaign or any of that. What 83 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: it is is the exonerated five have been smeared. Our 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: good names have been smeared. He said during the presidential debate, 85 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: the only debate that was held, that we pled guilty 86 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: and that we killed the person. 87 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Right, And how do you just make that up in 88 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: a presidential debate and don't want to be fact checked. 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 4: Well, the thing about it is this, and that's the 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: part that's really concerning. How when you put those types 91 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: of things out in the world, like when he put 92 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: that ad in New York City's newspapers thirty five years ago. 93 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: That wasn't just oh, you know what, I just want 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 4: to pay eighty five thousand dollars to run an ad. 95 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: That was a whisper into the darkest places of society 96 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: for them to do to us what they did to Emmettil. 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: They were hoping that we would be murdered because we 98 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: were accused of something, and the accusation didn't even fall 99 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: really into the proper context of American law, which states 100 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: you are innocent until proven guilty. So they looked at 101 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 4: the color of our skin and said, nah, these guys 102 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: are guilty, just like when they went. And this is 103 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: crazy the connection in terms of Emmettil. When you look 104 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: at the footage. When the jurors were interviewed afterwards, they 105 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: were asked, like, what took y'all so long to come 106 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: back with a guilty verdict, And one of the jurors said, well, 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: you know, we wanted to. We knew we were going 108 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: to vote innocent, but we just wanted to take a 109 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: soda pop break so that we could appear to be 110 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: doing our jobs. You think about that in the context 111 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: of American law and how overwhelmingly black people in particular, 112 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: brown people in general, we make up the prison industrial complex. 113 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: The whole strategy, of course as well, is one to 114 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: have us so jaded by the process we don't even 115 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: want to participate. Because imagine if the disenfranchised community gets 116 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: an opportunity to participate on a high level again, game over. 117 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 4: Because we are like a large population of people and 118 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: we got to be able to look at this thing 119 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 4: right now. That's why I'm telling people you can't vote 120 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: in any presidential election or any local election and think 121 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: it's about just that time frame. No, we are talking 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: about what is the future, Like, how do we push 123 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: ourselves not just into the next four years, but way 124 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: beyond that. What am I going to leave my children's children? 125 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: Is democracy still going to be in America? 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: And when you talk about that, this enfranchise population, that's 127 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: why we began to use hip hop. This is why 128 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: we wanted to use hip hop as a way to 129 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: speak directly to those individuals that oftentimes aren't spoken to 130 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: in this election. We've been doing that in Pittsburgh. Our 131 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: organization Onehood Media is based in Pittsburgh. So just to 132 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: give you the demographicsts, Pittsburgh is twenty five percent black. 133 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: When we start to mobilize around civic engagement, voter education, 134 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: and using hip hops to speak specifically dark community. In 135 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, we elected Pittsburgh's first black mayor in 136 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: the history and Ganey in twenty twenty and also in 137 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, we elected five progressive judges, all women, 138 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: three black women. Every judge in Pennsylvania you vote in 139 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: the office. In twenty twenty two, we elected the first 140 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: black congresswoman in Pennsylvania's history. No disrespect to Philly, but 141 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: it was Western Pa. It was Pittsburgh in Summer Lea. 142 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: And in twenty twenty three, our civic engagement director who 143 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: built our political engagement strategy, who's also a rapper, Kahari Mosley, 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: is now my city councilman. And so when we talk 145 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: about November fifth, and it's a presidential election, yes, but 146 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: there's also elections down ballot, and so we after to me, 147 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: I feel like we're taught voting backwards, like your vote 148 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: actually has the most power locally, like it has the lead, 149 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: Like in a national election you have millions of voters. 150 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: Some of these school board races, it might be two hundred, 151 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: three hundred, four hundred votes, and you could have somebody 152 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: on that school board. In Pittsburgh, our school board's budget 153 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: is larger than our city's budget. So a school board 154 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: member is actually negotiating more money than somebody on city council. 155 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: And so this why all of those races matter. And 156 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: so we try to talk about voting in terms of 157 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: like we're using this. It's not We're not going to 158 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: liberate ourselves with a vote, but we can build community 159 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: power and we could then pass policies that directly affect 160 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: our communities for the better. 161 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: And I always think it's important when you see people 162 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: who you think would be great in office, who are 163 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: great community leaders, to encourage them to run. Money is 164 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: important when it comes to having a campaign and helping 165 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: finance that. And even if we can only get five dollars, 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: ten dollars, whatever it is, those things really do matter 167 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: to show that type of support and who you would 168 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: want to represent you. 169 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you a funny story because I didn't 170 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: want youself to run because this is my friend, like 171 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: you know, I've known his brother because I was actually scared, 172 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: right because he's such a good person. 173 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: And you know it to ruin him, Yeah, you know 174 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: New York politics. 175 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, Yeah, but you're exact, Angela, You're exact, 176 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: Like he's the person that should be there, man, because 177 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: we know he has the morals and that spiritual base 178 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: and he's one of us, so we know he's gonna 179 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: go there and put us first and not himself first. 180 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: And so when he won, I kind of felt bad 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: because I like, are you sure about that? And so 182 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm so happy, like so now he's an example for us. 183 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: So we're in Pittsburgh, like, where are yousefs? Where are 184 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,359 Speaker 2: those individuals that always. 185 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: Put on community? 186 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: Perhaps running for office. 187 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: And probably not, but I will support whoever decides to 188 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: run for office. Yes, definitely, I'm gonna tell you what 189 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: about that? 190 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: Right? 191 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: So for me and I love this because I always say, look, 192 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 4: I didn't study political science, right right, I went to jail. 193 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: So being being in pain, being close to the pain, 194 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: we often heard people say those who have been close 195 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: to the pain should have a seat at the table. 196 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: When you can articulate the issue, what is it, doctor 197 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: James Baldwin, I'm gonna call him doctor, right, Yes, he said, 198 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 4: when you can, he said, the victim ceases to be 199 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: the victim when they can articulate themselves correctly. Now they 200 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 4: become a threat, but the threat is to the system, right, 201 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 4: So therefore politics is politics. Yes, it's always been that. 202 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: That's what we created. We gave that definition and birthd 203 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: it out of our community. But I always say, look, 204 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: I'm not a politician. Therefore this will not be politics 205 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: as usual because I'm literally holding myself accountable and I'm 206 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 4: trying to make sure that I govern with the moral 207 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: compass that says, look, I'm always being watched by the 208 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: great creator, and at the end of the day, what 209 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: I do with this moment matters so much more those 210 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: young people who are saying to themselves, you mean that's possible, 211 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: Like I could run for office. What we usually do, 212 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 4: and this is part of the challenge, is that we 213 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: usually vote and then we go back to our lives. 214 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 4: It's no longer suitable for us to do that. We 215 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 4: have to vote, and we have to be engaged, and 216 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: we have to understand and research. When you talked about 217 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: the school boards, I mean literally, folks don't really know 218 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: how we move things forward. Education is the key to 219 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: our future. And so if we're talking about the fact 220 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: that not in this conversation, but the fact that they're 221 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: building jails based on fourth and fifth grade, third and 222 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: fourth grade, matter of fact test scores. Now we got 223 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 4: to look at, well, what's the strategy. If the strategy 224 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: is to make sure that the future is handed over 225 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,479 Speaker 4: to the caretakers of tomorrow, then who are those caretakers? 226 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: And if it's only some of us and not all 227 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 4: of us, we got to wake up to that and say, well, 228 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: what's really going on so this political process here. First 229 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: of all, I am so excited. I'm still electrified having 230 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 4: come off the DNC stage. But it wasn't just about that. 231 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: It was about being able to be a voice for 232 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 4: the voiceless, being an ambassador for our pain, being able 233 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: to tell that story and still show people that you 234 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 4: can stand up for yourself. And therefore I'm standing up 235 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: for others. They're right there on stage with my brothers, 236 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 4: and I'm like, Yo, this is such a moment. How 237 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: beautiful it is for the consideration to be We all 238 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 4: came from a woman. Our first teacher was a woman, 239 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 4: our first doctor was a woman. In many ways, our 240 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: first love was a woman. We're looking for our mother 241 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: when we think about who it is that we are 242 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: trying to connect with and build community with and here 243 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: we are. We have this so beautiful, powerful moment of like, man, 244 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: I think we said it before, right, can't wait for 245 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: November fifth to be or because the anxiety of where 246 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 4: we are right now is like you can cut the 247 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 4: you can cut it with a knife. 248 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: And to be honest, and I want to talk about this, 249 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, Ja Siri. Yes, as a rapper, we've seen 250 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: a lot of support for Donald Trump from the hip 251 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: hop community and so I want to get some ideas 252 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: from you of why you think that is. We saw 253 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: fifty Cent say though that he didn't want to perform. Yes, yeah, 254 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: And because I do feel like people are you know, 255 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: they get a little check to do something and to 256 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: be on the stage, and like you said, some people 257 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: feel like they aren't being spoken to. So when the 258 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: campaign reaches out to you and it's like hey, you 259 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: know you want to come out and do this, we 260 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: so nicky Jam just decided he wants to support Trump. 261 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: Chump also thought he was a beautiful woman. 262 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 3: Right right, Trump don't know why. 263 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Don't even know who's supporting him. But after what he 264 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: said about Puerto Rico, right, you know, now people are like, nope, 265 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: We're not supporting that right. 266 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: And one of the dope things about the summit that 267 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: we had that's actually going to be on a breakbeat 268 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: media on YouTube November. 269 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: First is Fat Joe was there. 270 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: In Fat Joe Now only spoke about you know what, 271 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: you know what happened in Madison Square Guarden, specifically racist 272 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: comments directed towards Porto Puerto Rico. He also spoke about 273 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: like how they they hit him up and was like 274 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: Fat Joe, we need you to get bad Bunny, and 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: he was like, I really don't know bad Bunny. He 276 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: was like, God brought bad Bunny because of these this commentary. 277 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: I honestly think Angeley, like if you're anybody like black 278 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: and brown and you're voting for Donald Trumper or putting 279 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: any type of it's one of two things. Either one 280 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: like you said, Either you're somebody that is there's a 281 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: financial benefit for you to stand next to Donald Trump 282 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: and you understand that, like yo, in this moment, you 283 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: know this kind of white supremacist model, it's beneficial for 284 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: me to be that one black person that they roll 285 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: out to be the black face of white supremacy. Or 286 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: you're a victim of misinformation. And I really feel like 287 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: many of these hip hop artists are victims of the 288 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: algorithm and misinformation being directed about. I mean, if you're 289 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: in if you're in twenty twenty four now and you're 290 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: saying Kamala Harris ain't black, like that's not a fact. 291 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: So you're a victim of misinformation. What are you listening to? 292 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: What's your algorithm? You know, bun Bee spoke to this 293 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: at the summit because he talked about you know, bun 294 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: Bee was like, I think my generation is the least 295 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: savvy when it comes to social media, and so you 296 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: have some older brothers that are getting these things sent 297 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: to them on social media and believe in it. Well. 298 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: I want to also say, even with Elon Musk owning Twitter, yes, 299 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like, why is all this stuff 300 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: showing up on my fee like in support of Donald 301 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Trump and denouncing Kamala Harris, And I feel like there's 302 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, clearly he's a huge chump support, yes, And 303 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: so I feel like things are being fed to us, 304 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, and being propped up on that potential. 305 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 306 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: And now Elon Musk has to go to Philadelphia because 307 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: the DA Philadelphia sued Elon Musk because Elon Musk was 308 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: trying to give a million dollars a day to people 309 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: that sign this petition. But if you say the minute 310 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: you say you have to be a registered voter to 311 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: sign this petition, you're basically that's that's election in it. 312 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: You're making this to one. 313 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: Now I have to go register to vote to get 314 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: access to this potential one million dollars. And so now 315 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: he's getting sued. He got to show up in Pennsylvania 316 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: and defend that. But you're absolutely right. So to me, 317 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: this is why you see black and brown men because 318 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: they're being target This is why we felt like, let's 319 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: have this conversation, let's bring brothers together, let's bring people 320 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: from different It was dope to see like core Day 321 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: next to Bunbee and talk about the different generational divides 322 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: and what we're seeing. But a lot of it is 323 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: we're getting those algorithms. We're getting stuff sent to us 324 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: right now. They said that face that Elon Musk, that 325 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: same Elon Musk had millions of dollars of ads on 326 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: Facebook and that these ads appeared to be in support 327 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: of Kamala Harris but was not. They were like fake 328 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: news and fake ads and Facebook said, oh, this didn't 329 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: violate our policy. And so this goes back to that piece. 330 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: And I know it's been said a lot during this 331 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: h during this election season, but if your vote didn't matter, 332 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: why I are billionaires like Elon Musk spending hundreds of 333 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: millions of dollars to try to convince you either not 334 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: to vote or to vote against your own self interest. 335 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: Clearly is because. 336 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: Your vote means something, and so we should begin to 337 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: take an educated understanding about it. The last thing I'll 338 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: say is I was on the plane Angela and I said, 339 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: next to this this this this white guy, and he 340 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 2: was like Trump twenty twenty four. He tried to give 341 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: me a fist month I said, I said, nah, we 342 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: ain't doing that. And I said, he said, oh. 343 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: Up to that. 344 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: But this is what he said, right, He said, oh, 345 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: can I show your video? I said no, I read 346 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: like there's I read, I study, I have. I this 347 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: is how I get my information. There's no video that 348 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: you can show me, but this is how they're getting people. 349 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: Let me show you this video. The video is not 350 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: fact check. The video has all type of inconsistencies and lies. 351 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: I mean, every time Trump comes up. 352 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: He's lying lying, lying, lying, He just. 353 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: Like you said, he was mad. Oh y'all wasn't supposed 354 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: to fact check me? 355 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Right? 356 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 3: Why area he fact checking me? 357 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: You should want to get fact checked because if you're 358 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: telling the truth, I don't think that any person could 359 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: ever know every single thing and everything right all the time. 360 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: Check me. If I say something and it's not correct, 361 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: I apologize. Fact check me. 362 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: But you're a person of integrity, like you're a person 363 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: that you're You've always used your platform to have conversations 364 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: like this so truth can come out into They're not 365 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: interested in that. 366 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: They're interested in taking power, so. 367 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: It could benefit those they're billionaire class, and it could 368 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: actually disenfranchise and take power and resources away from us. 369 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: That's why it's important for us to get involved. You know. 370 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: And I want to say this too because I saw 371 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: and I see the numbers are starting to change. But 372 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: I saw the NAACP did a study to see what 373 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: black men are supporting Trump, and they said the numbers 374 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: are a lot higher than they were, you know, last 375 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: time when he ran for office and actually won, right, right, 376 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: And so what do reattribute that to? You think it's 377 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: the false information, You think it's people are exhausted. They 378 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: feel like they see what's happening and they don't think 379 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: it's enough. You know, a lot of things weren't able 380 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: to get accomplished because we do have to hold accountable 381 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: this presidency and a lot and some of that was 382 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: not their fault, right, Congress does play a role. It's 383 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: not like the president can snap their fingers and make 384 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: something happen. And Congress, as we know, was trying to 385 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: make sure that things did get blocked, yes, from happening. 386 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: So can we talk about that a little bit? 387 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: Like, I think it's many things, And again like I'm 388 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: not up here acting like the Democratic Party has all 389 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: the answers and they're going to come in and. 390 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: Get elected and all of our problems are going to 391 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: go away. There's a lot of issues in the. 392 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: Democratic Party as well, particularly about how you're speaking, who 393 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: is speaking, and how we're speaking to the younger generation. 394 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: It was Barack Obama, our former president, Barack Obama, came 395 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh and kind of set off this conversation around 396 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: black men because of like, yo, brothers, you know, y'all 397 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: not gonna vote for Kamala. And then people felt like 398 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: it was this set up to say like, oh I 399 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: Kama Lousa, We're gonna blame black men, right, So I 400 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: do think that one we do have to go directly 401 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: to the folks, like to those young men directly, And 402 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: it's one of the things our organization does. Right, we're 403 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: in the schools, we're in the communities, we're on the 404 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: block right speaking directly to young people. More people in 405 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: these in these high political positions need to do that 406 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: to see what actually is going on and what happens 407 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: is I mean, think about it. If you're a young person, 408 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: if you're in the Bronx, if you're in Harlem, if 409 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: you're in Pittsburgh and you're in the community that's in 410 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: Poveris and you see, you know, a billion dollars being 411 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: raised for a presidential race, and you're looking around and saying, 412 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: what could that billion dollars do to affect my community? 413 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: Why doesn't my community get these resources? What's preventing you know, 414 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: me from having the same education? And so there are 415 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: that's a real legitimate question. And if you're gonna tell 416 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: me that politics can change that, then we need to 417 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: see some real like tangible like show me changeably. How 418 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: politics did that? I think what we were able to 419 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: do in Pittsburgh because we started to win these local races, 420 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: was to show, now we have this person in this 421 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: positions and we can show you one that we're winning, 422 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: but also here are the policies that change. One in 423 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh that we were able to change was that we 424 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: were able to pass a law where the police cannot 425 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: just stop you randomly for tented windows if you have 426 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: an expired registration, because it was these small traffic stops 427 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: that were leading to actual police killings and police brutality. Right, 428 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: So we were able to show so now I can 429 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: go back to that community and say, here's some things 430 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: that we actually did here. Or you know, we have 431 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: a brother. He's behind the camera named emai Ala Kuiva, 432 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: but he he sits on the Art Council of Pennsylvania 433 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: where they just were able to bring six hundred million 434 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: dollars into downtown Pittsburgh. So we can say, hey, here's 435 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: this brother that grew up in the same neighborhood as you, 436 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: that looks like you, that's been through a lot of 437 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: the struggles you've been through, and we're able to bring 438 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: this money back into our community. Now it's our responsibility 439 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: to make sure that that comes into our neighborhoods and 440 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: that our communities benefit from those. 441 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and doctor Yusef Salon, we were talking 442 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: before the cameras came on about how it feels like 443 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: we do things the right way all the time, or 444 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: at least we attempt to do that right, we follow 445 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: the rules, and Republicans don't necessarily do that, as we 446 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: can see. You know, even before the study, we were 447 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: talking about the Stop the Steal campaign and how they're 448 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: already getting things in place to make it look like 449 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: this election was fraudulent in case he doesn't win on 450 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: November fifth. And so I want to talk about that 451 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: a little bit because you said, you invoke when Michelle 452 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Obama said, when they go low, we go high. But 453 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: sometimes it might feel like, okay, well, maybe we do 454 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: need to just say we have to get this done, 455 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: and you know, this is important enough that we don't 456 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: have to go about it in the right way. Maybe 457 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: we just make an order where we get this done, 458 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: like an emergency type of order. But I just want to, 459 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: I know, I just want to see what your thoughts 460 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: are because it feels like when the other side isn't 461 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: playing fair and we're always trying to play fair, then 462 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: how do you manage to progress because it's not an 463 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: even playing field. 464 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: So whether they say they say, don't get mad organized, yes, 465 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: some of our best leaders. In fact, one of the 466 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: top leading leaders in the world said our unity is 467 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: more powerful than an atomic bomb. And I want folks 468 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: to consider that, right those listening to this powerful discussion. 469 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: If all we do is vote and we go back 470 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 4: to our lives, nothing is going to change. But if 471 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: we vote and we participate in the great scheme of 472 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: living life, then what happens is that when they go 473 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 4: low and we organize, their mechanisms will not affect us 474 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: because we're organized. We have the best minds that are 475 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: telling us and teaching us and showing us how we 476 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: maneuver ourselves as equal chess players operating at a high level. 477 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 4: And the problem is this, They say things like you 478 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: got to pay the play. They say things like you 479 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 4: know what, I know that this guy might not be X, 480 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: Y and Z, but you know what, I prefer to 481 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: be inside the house. Yeah right, I'm not going to 482 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 4: say the word, but they don't want to be in 483 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: the field. So the fact that all of us right 484 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: now have been neo in the Matrix Part one, there's 485 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: some of us who are saying, I know this state 486 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: ain't real, but I want you. 487 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: To wipe my mind so that I can go on. 488 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: Why Because ignorance is a trillion dollar industry, and so 489 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: it's not enough to say, well, let's you utilize their 490 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 4: same tactics. My truth is that we didn't think about 491 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: their tactics. We are good natured people operating on a 492 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: whole different level. And what is that level? We are 493 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: fighting against spiritual wickedness in high and low places. As 494 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: soon as we go to the dark side, we will 495 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 4: always consider that when things get rough, we gotta keep 496 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: ourselves positively charged. We gotta turn our light up because 497 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: let me tell you something, that's the only thing that 498 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: kills darkness. And it's a beautiful thing to be able 499 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 4: to say I did all that I could do right. 500 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 4: But it's even better for us to be organized to 501 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 4: say we did all we could do, because once we organize. 502 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: It's more of us. 503 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: And you know progress can be slow. We always say 504 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: that too, and so it's not like things happen overnight, 505 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: but we can look at certain things ten years ago 506 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: where we're better off today than we were then. But 507 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: maybe it took years and I'll get to that point. 508 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: And patience is a hard thing. 509 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: True, But I also think like that's the power of 510 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: hip hop, right because you know, if you're gonna come 511 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: at me with some some negativity or you're gonna come 512 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: at me what your what your what your speaking like, 513 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna match your energy. 514 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: Right. 515 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: If your energy towards me is you know, you calling 516 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: me out of my name, I'm gonna call you out 517 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: to name. 518 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: And it was it was dope. One of the people 519 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: that we had at. 520 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: The summit was Jasmine Crockett who went viral because when 521 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green said something to her, She's like, bad built, 522 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so I love that 523 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: spirit of like like today, like our generation, we're gonna 524 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: match your energy. If your energy towards us is like 525 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: you want to call us out or you want to 526 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: call us garbage, I mean we're we're literally watching like 527 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: and that's why I thought it was powerful that we 528 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: had a black and brown summit because we're watching, particularly 529 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: immigrants being made as escape goes to all America's problems, 530 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: Haitian immigrants, African immigrants. You know, immigrants from Mexico Venezuela 531 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 2: are being targeted now like we're they're all the problems 532 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: and being called animals, being called older eating cats, and 533 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: thought being called savages. And so it's like, nah, I'm 534 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: not just gonna sit by and allow you to talk 535 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: that way about my brothers and. 536 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: Sisters and only certain immigrants. 537 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: Let's not forget. 538 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: Yes, as they pointed out Elon Musk himself, yes was 539 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: an immigrant working here illegally. Yes, yeah, yeah, gos. 540 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: And so that's that's my thing, Like hip ho, we 541 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: matching energy. We not, We're not having it. And we 542 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: saw that particularly around like the response to the Puerto 543 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: Rican community around what you know this this racist comedian 544 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: said that massive square garden where you know, black and 545 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: brown folks and Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. 546 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: We all wait, hold up, no, you're not doing that. 547 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: And Pennsylvania has a large Puerto Rican community, like, let's 548 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: organize and let's make sure. Oh you want to talk 549 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: about garbage world. And I forget who it was. I 550 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: think it was the sister Sonny on the view who 551 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: said November fifth is gonna be gonna be garbage. They're 552 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: gonna be trash Day and we're gonna take out the trash. 553 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: Dressed up as a garbage man. Yes, they're not talking 554 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: about how his leg was dragging behind them. 555 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: Did you see that? 556 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: I mean like he. 557 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: Keeps bringing up right. Well, we used to when Joe 558 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: Biden was running against him, he would talk about his age. 559 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: He would talk about, oh, he's not mentally competent. But 560 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: he can't say those things. Yes, about Kamala Harris. But 561 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: now you're the one that's in the position where you know. 562 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: And won't release yeah, and won't release your medical records 563 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: like you're you're you're seventy eight years old. If and 564 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: we're saying, we're hoping he don't win, but he would 565 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: be the oldest president in American history if he wins. 566 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: Won't release medical records, won't release tax records. 567 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 3: We don't know. 568 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: We saw that his son in law had this big 569 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: deal with Saudi Arabia and got billions of dots. Won't 570 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 2: release these records, we don't know. You know, there was 571 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: a video that when viral that we found out was 572 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: fake where they were saying, oh, they're tampering votes in Pennsylvania. 573 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: And not only did they found out it was fake. 574 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: They found it was actually produced by Russia, like this video. 575 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: We don't know what those. 576 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 2: Ties to Russia and Donald Trump are. And so it 577 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: is that double standard. Where again, like when it was Biden, 578 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: if Biden said I'm not releasing my medical records, people 579 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: be going crazy, are you old? 580 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: You sleepy? 581 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: But here's this man that, like, we all know he 582 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: has orange makeup on your face, don't look like that. 583 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: We know this. It's like the things we accept from. 584 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: It's crazy playing music instead and dancing terribly. 585 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: Yes, and it's not. It's like nobody. 586 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: What we haven't heard people say is like, oh, he's 587 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: not mentally he's mentally competent, he's not mentally fit. Let's 588 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: do a cognitive test, you know what I'm saying. So 589 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: that's the difference and that double standard. And so I 590 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: think for us, the question, as we came together as 591 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: black and brown men were, is there an issue because 592 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: this is a woman. 593 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do we hate women that much 594 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: that we don't want to see one be present? People 595 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: really feel like a woman. I've heard people say it, 596 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: we can't have some women in office. Somebody the other 597 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: day told, you know, my friend was dating a guy 598 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: and he told her. She said, I can't be with 599 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: him anymore. He said, I'm not voting for some Indian lady. 600 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, where is this coming from? And yeah, 601 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: just so aside from all that, also, Donald Trump is 602 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: running and he literally sexually assaulted and got convicted for 603 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: sexually assaulting a woman. Yes, and we would allow this 604 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: person to run. That's how much we don't love women. 605 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: Thirty four felonies, I mean, this is And so it 606 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: was wild to hear, like, here's Donald Trump who said, like, 607 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna protect women whether they like it or not. 608 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: And it's like, you're somebody, but this is a man 609 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: who's been a threat to women his whole life. How 610 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: many sexual assault charges do you have? 611 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: Right? 612 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: You were found like libel for sexual assault by a jury. 613 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: We heard it. 614 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: It's I just go over to him and grab him. 615 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: That's not protecting a woman. And so it has to 616 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: be a double standard because it is it just because 617 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: this is a white man. And so that's where the psychological, psychological, 618 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: the psychologic white supremacy comes into play. That because this 619 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: is a white man that we've been seeing and we 620 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: saw him on TV and we think he has a 621 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: billion dollars. We don't know because we don't have his returns, right, 622 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 2: and so so we assume because he's this white guy 623 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: who appears to be successful, that he has the tools 624 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: it takes to run this country. But somebody who actually 625 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: has came from the same environments that we've came from, 626 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: worked her way up despite all of. 627 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: These optacles they placed qualified, not even a questions. People 628 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: would be like, I don't think she's qualified. I saw 629 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: that video where they were interviewing the black women who 630 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: were literally saying, I don't think she's qualified. She has 631 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: I was like, this is wild to me. 632 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: Yes, super wild, she's overly qualified. 633 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's exceptional, and we forgot just like hip hop right, 634 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 4: hip hop said what black man, black woman, black baby, 635 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: black man, white woman, black baby, yeah, black you know, 636 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 4: white man, black woman, yes, black baby, yes, white man, 637 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 4: white woman, white baby. 638 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: Yes. 639 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: So the thing that is just so crazy that that 640 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: folks are looking at this and saying, hold on, wait, 641 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 4: her hair is too straight. Listen, everywhere in the world, 642 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 4: people of darker hue are catching hell. Yes, they're the 643 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: ones with the foot of the oppressor on our neck. 644 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: They're the ones who have been made and told to 645 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: stay by the wayside, who've been pushed off of the sidewalk. 646 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: That's not what we're supposed to be doing, right. But 647 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 4: the thing about it too is that I think, truly, 648 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: this is not a race of anything other than people saying, 649 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: you know what, I think we need to make sure 650 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: that we go back to states rights to own people. 651 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: We go back to a space and time where slavery 652 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 4: is the law of the land. They're already calling the 653 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 4: inmate population in Alabama and Mississippi slaves. And so we 654 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: think about the thirteenth Amendment, right, and we think about 655 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 4: the laws. As part of Section two, Congresser have the 656 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 4: power to enforce this article through appropriate legislation. And then 657 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: we look at the legislation, we look at how things 658 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 4: are meted out in our communities. 659 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: We said to. 660 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 4: Ourselves, well, why do we have to fight and say, 661 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: you know what, let's make it illegal for you to 662 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 4: just stop me because I got dark tents, or for 663 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 4: you to stop me. This is the same slave codes 664 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 4: rearing its ugly head in another name, right, And so 665 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 4: all of this stuff is like, it's so clear, but 666 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 4: I think what we're really really the real fight, like 667 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: I said before, is again spiritual wickedness in hind little places. 668 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: And unfortunately, there's a lot of people who wish they 669 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 4: had that kind of money, even the poor white people. 670 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 4: I saw one the other day right in near City Hall. 671 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 4: He walking down the block. His shoe wasn't even he 672 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 4: was like dragging his foot. Vote for Trump, And I said, 673 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: my goodness, but they see themselves as well. At least 674 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: I ain't black. 675 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: And I would. 676 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: I did want to say this specifically for men, right, 677 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: because particularly we're talking about protecting women, right, that's the conversation. Yes, 678 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: with what happened with Roe v Wade, we've seen women die. 679 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: We just heard about a story about a woman in 680 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 2: Texas who, because of the doctor's fear of operating on 681 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: her as she was miscarriaging, she died. 682 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: He said they had to have the heart stop for 683 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: the baby before they could do anything, and they could 684 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: have saved her life. 685 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So, if we're talking about protecting the women, you know, 686 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: because like you said, you got a mom, you got 687 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: a sister, you gotta like, if we're really talking about 688 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: protecting the women in our lives, and we understand what 689 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: the attack on reproductive rights what that really means, specifically 690 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: to black and brown people in our communities. Then we 691 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 2: don't have a choice to sit this out. And it's 692 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: not really a choice on who to vote for, because 693 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: why would you want laws that are going to prevent 694 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: the women in your life from making the choices with 695 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: their bodies that they should be allowed to make themselves. 696 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: Right, Jades are scared that they're going to end up 697 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: being prosecuted for saving a woman's life. 698 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 699 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: And Lastie, I want to ask you, doctor Yusef Salam, 700 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: how personal is this for you? Because of your own 701 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: experience and having to have dealt with from a very 702 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: young age the hatred from Donald Trump. 703 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: This is perhaps the fight of my lifetime. I've been 704 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: fighting against Donald Trump for thirty five years, going on 705 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: thirty six years, and when I think about all that's 706 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 4: at stake, it's not enough for think about this. Right 707 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 4: after the presidential debate, he came down to the spin 708 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 4: room floor. I was there and I tried to engage 709 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 4: him and I said, I'm Usef Salam, one of the 710 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 4: exonerated five. 711 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 3: He caught wind of me. He turned around and you 712 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 3: know what he said. 713 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: He said, Oh, you're with me, I said, what kind 714 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: of what I said? 715 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: Oh? 716 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: No, I mean literally, I was like, I was so shocked. No, 717 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 3: I'm not with you. I'm one of the exonerated five. Right, 718 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: How could I be with you? 719 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: He might not know what exonerated me. 720 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 3: Well, yes, right. 721 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: But see, to think about it is this, here's a 722 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 4: person who's had me in his crosshairs. Here's a person who, 723 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 4: like I said before, that AD wasn't just an ad. 724 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 4: That AD was a whisper into the darkens enclaves of society. 725 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 4: For them to come into our homes, drag us from 726 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: our beds, kill us. What is this man saying, I'm 727 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: gont to give law enforcement writ large immunity. That's okay 728 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: for the good actors. But the bad actors, those who 729 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 4: shoot Sonya Massey in the face, so Breonna Taylor down, 730 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 4: Those who would pull up on a Tamir Rice and 731 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 4: shoot him without even asking questions. Right, the young brother 732 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 4: Rose in Pittsburgh, Antoine Rose. All of these things, these 733 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 4: examples are right out there. But you know what they 734 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 4: look at They look at this stuff and say, these 735 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 4: are anomalies. This is as American as apple pie. At 736 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 4: fifteen years of age, I had to learn how to 737 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 4: be strong. I had to grow up very very fast. 738 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: All of my brothers had to. And the truth of 739 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: the matter is that because of that, because of that experience, 740 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 4: I look at it as a gift from God, being 741 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 4: able to say, you know what, I have to be 742 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 4: able to speak truth to power. I don't know what's 743 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 4: going to happen later, but guess what we are now 744 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 4: in the future of myself at fifteen thirty five years later, 745 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 4: being a person who was rejected, then selected and now 746 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 4: elected to govern inside of city council for the same 747 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 4: district that they took us from. Nobody would be mad 748 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 4: and say, you know what, we understand if you don't 749 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 4: want to run. But I had to come back to 750 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 4: the scene of the crime carrying buckets of water to 751 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 4: let us know how we have to fight because. 752 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: We gotta fight. 753 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 754 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm not telling people, no, don't fight, right, even 755 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 4: with the hip hop. We gotta fight, absolutely right. That 756 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: don't mean that you smack me and I see you 757 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 4: getting ready to raise. 758 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 3: Your hand again. 759 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 4: I can't figure out how to maneuver myself and make 760 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: sure you don't smack me again. Absolutely right, But that's 761 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 4: the thing we can't just be in a situation where 762 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 4: we say, damn, that's messed up, that that happened to him. 763 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: You look around. 764 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we represent the microcosm of the micro cosm of 765 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 4: cases just like ours. There's so many untold stories ours become. 766 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 4: Ours went from being in miss to famous. And I've 767 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 4: been fighting against him as the representative of white supremacy, 768 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 4: white male dominance of evil of the modern day clan. 769 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 4: I've been fighting against him and what he represents for 770 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 4: thirty five years. That's what this is about. 771 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that. I really appreciate it. 772 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys came here today to sit 773 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: with us again. Voting election day is on November fifth, 774 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: It's on Tuesday. Is your last opportunity to vote. Please, guys, 775 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: make sure you participate in this and do the right thing. 776 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: Can I say this too, please? 777 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 4: Non participation is participation right? 778 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: And if I could just. 779 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: Say, if you want information on November first, you know 780 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: us a summit on Black and Brown men in the 781 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 2: Vote will be airing on Breakbe Media on YouTube. Viola Davis, Fat, 782 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 2: Joe Corday, bun Bee, Usef Salam Desmond Mead, who the 783 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 2: man Method Well, so Method Man and red Man came 784 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 2: actually earlier, Like last Sunday, we had Meth, we had Red, 785 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: we had LOOPEI, we had Comment again. Like for us, 786 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: we're bringing the spirit of hip hop to the to 787 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and we're motivating the people. So yeah, Meth, Red, 788 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: Loop Pey Comment. So tune in November. First listen to 789 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: what these black and brown men and black women gotta say, 790 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: you know who. 791 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're not like using on black and brown 792 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: men and the vote. Make sure y'all check it out 793 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: on break beat and on YouTube. All right, it's way 794 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: up