WEBVTT - Ep. 250: Render - 2024 World Championship Squirrel Cook Off 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.239 My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.400 the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render where 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.760 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:30.560 of the actual bear Grease podcast. Presented by f h 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:35.360 F Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.559 that's designed to be as rugged as the place as 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:44.640 we explore today. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:46.680 We got like a deep rides from. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:53.040 Marito and promise sirl chips on the side. Yeah, sputilla 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.320 chim that's forrtilla chips. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.440 We're making a it's a campfire Carbland campfire by It's 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.840 made with a horn sauce that around since of seventeen 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.240 hundred five game sauce. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:03.800 Man. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.520 That makes me hungry just just thinking about it. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.560 Squirrel, I don't know all we're going to the ground. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:16.080 We're testing the fritters. Yeah. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.479 Now, my grandpa when he took a bite of something, 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:20.560 you know he liked it. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.840 If he said, you know what, this tastes like, it 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:23.720 tastes like more. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:25.360 That's right. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.360 Good, We'll get you a full deal with everything on 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:28.640 with that's good man, Thank you. 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:39.759 Going to squirrel Cookie. We found ourselves at the World 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:46.920 Championship World Championship Squirrel Cookoff Big Springdale, Arkansas, Arkansas. 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:47.080 With a W. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.640 That's right, right, that's right now, this is uh, we're 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.560 in Springdale, Arkansas. Man, the guests that I have in 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:54.960 front of me, and this is this is like the 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.120 this is like dream team, dream team, beggery shrender. Here. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.440 We got Brent he's right here working undercover as usual. 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.200 Won't even know it's him. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.760 I mean, he's so good we don't even care anymore. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:08.239 That's right. 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:14.920 Then we got Kevin Murphy from Kentucky. Came with stuff. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.480 He's got his squirrel dog, looks like he's got a 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.240 nine millimeter on his side, and he brought a Kentucky 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:21.919 long rifle. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.880 Do you mind if I tell you this right quick? 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.760 Yesterday when Kevin was unloading to get here, I've got 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.840 a couple of pet peeves in life, and one of 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.600 them is it's my socks. Okay, A pair of socks 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.680 will wreck your life. Kevin Murphy drives all the way 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.760 from Kentucky with a hole in his sock to where 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.280 the third knuckle on his big toe was showing through. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.959 A matter of fact, his ankle was almost through his sock. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.880 I know, why did you see his socks because I said, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.880 you got shoes on for the first time I ever 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.160 seen you. And he pulls off his shoe and he's 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.160 got a hole all the way through his sock. And 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.520 I thought I could well Kevin Murphy till I've seen 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.240 how tough he was, because there ain't no way I 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.000 could drive from Kentucky arkansall the whole of myself like that. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.520 He's an efficient man. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.600 I was told not to go barefooted, so I had 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:10.880 to let the big toe hang out. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:13.480 Do you go barefoot much? 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:18.200 Hell? No? Okay, my feace as tender as a baby's butt. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:23.400 Okay, okay, just checking, just checking. So we've got Malcolm 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.680 Reid from Mississippi. Where do you live in Mississippi? 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.440 Malcolm, I live in Hernando Desorta County just south of 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:30.399 Memphis a little bit. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.800 Yeah, I'm not too far from the Arkansas line. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:33.399 Yeah. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:38.400 And man, Malcolm is a world famous barbecue man. You 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.080 were on the podcast last year and I've since been 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.880 following you. He's like the evil Canieval of Barbara. 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.680 Oh yeah, for real. He breaks older. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.840 He comes on and he's got a huge, huge following 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.400 on TikTok and YouTube, like massive. He comes on there 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.040 and it's like, uh, it's like, guess what I'm gonna 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.360 do today? Folks? Yep, and man, it's always good. 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.280 Well, I just like to eat, so you can tell 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:01.920 I hold back. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.400 Now, what were you doing here today? 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.680 I came back for the squirrel cook Off? 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.080 You know, I had such a good time last year 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.520 here that I that when Joe asked us that we 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:11.720 were willing to come back, I was. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.520 Like, absolutely, did you cook? 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.039 I didn't cook in the contest, but we cooked jumble Lie. 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.800 We cooked three rounds of jumble Lie. Probably fed over 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.279 about a thousand people today. Come on, we brought a 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.000 thousand bowls and we ran out of bowls. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:25.960 Wow, they were eating it out of the palm of 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:26.440 their hands. 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.000 Give me I had I'm. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.640 Gonna I'm gonna come to you last, Joe. We've got 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:40.160 We've got Clifton Jackson. Why is everybody yelling? Todd Razorbacks? 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.159 Are playing? Playing? Who we playing today? 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.320 Some little team from Oklahoma? I don't even know. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.440 Yeah, I don't even know what they're called. But we 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.200 just tied up the game with like a few seconds left. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.000 Clifton Jackson. Man, this guy right here, he's glowing we're 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.800 amongst the world champions today, world champion hill billy, World 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:00.479 champion barbecue, World Champion squirrel skinner. Man, it's good to 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:00.760 have you. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:01.839 Hey, thanks for having me. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.760 So you've been the so at this event, the World 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.440 Championship Squirrel cook Off. We also have the World Championship 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.360 Squirrel Skinning Contest. And you've won how many years, Clifton? 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:12.360 Every year? 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:19.520 Dominated you know, Humble is a big part of this program. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.400 Hey, it ain't. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:22.120 Bragging if it's fact. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.160 Yeah, yeah, No. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.719 Where do you live, Clifton, Surewood, Arkansas? 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.279 And you work for the Game and Fish. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:29.640 I do twenty five years. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.080 Man, tell me what you do for the Arkansas Game Fish. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:33.240 I'm a wildlife biologist. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:34.119 That's awesome. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.719 I have several w as that I'm in it. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.200 Now are you are you the squirrel biologist or is 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.200 that just kind of like a no no? 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:42.760 I guess. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.839 I mean, I'm usually the go to person with squirrels, 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.120 but nah, no, we don't. We don't have a small 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:49.320 game pologist anymore. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.480 Okay, I was you were the That's what I remember. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.080 You were the small game bologists for the Arkansas Game 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.640 and Fish Commission. Man, So could do you uh, did 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.200 you ever do any research on squirrels or anything or 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.360 were you just mainly involved in like management, Well. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.880 Mainly other things like rabbits, and then I had quail 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.760 for a while too, until they separated that to another 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.520 one sole person, But not so much to do with 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.359 squirrels per se. For management, it's just getting people to 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:19.640 get out there and hunt them. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:20.400 Yeah. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.960 Yeah, it's not really like deer in Turkey and bear 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.440 where we're like really trying to count numbers and understand 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.960 management or like harvest and stuff. It's it's a little 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:31.880 it's different than that, am I right? 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.840 Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, And it's actually kind of when you 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.680 say it, that's the d verse of deer hunting, where 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.960 it's like, you know, ninety five percent participation rates amongst hunters. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.359 Squirrel hunting used to be like that, but it's just 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.320 hasn't been like that anymore, and trying to get people 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.600 back into the squirrel woods is a challenge. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:49.000 Man. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.880 Somebody was asking me today if if I think that 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.200 squirrel hunting and small game hunting is coming back, and 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:58.800 I kind of gave them a little bit of a 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.480 tour that I probably everybody here would know, but the 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.359 wildlife tour and history tour. Is that back when my 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:13.640 grandfather maybe your father were growing up in the nineteen thirties, twenties, thirties, forties, 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.120 there was no there wasn't much big game in Arkansas 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.600 or any anywhere to speak of in the southeast, especially, 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.280 I mean, whitetail deer, bear, turkeys, all these things were 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.320 very low numbers. And if you were a hunter, if 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.360 you were trying to get game, you were a small 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:32.160 game hunter. I mean you were hunting quail, you're hunting squirrel, 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:37.080 you're hunting rabbits. And then fifties, sixties, seventies, all these game, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.080 the big game just came back, I mean like big 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.400 time with the reintroduction of wild turkeys and reintroduction of 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.080 white tail deer, and they just beare all of it. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.440 It just kind of took off. And so it's like 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.400 the hunting community is shifted more towards big game stuff. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.720 But this reporter asked me why I thought this was 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.720 significant what we do here, and to me, it's like 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.600 it's it's it's a it's a hat tip to our 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:11.680 roots and poverty. Really, it's like, because that's you don't 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.720 have there was a time when you probably had to 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.760 eat squirrel. Yeah, we don't have to eat squirrel today. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:17.080 We could. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.000 We could have been celebrating brisket. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.200 Might have that would have been good. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.920 There's something squirrel dishes that will give a brisk run. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.920 And and you know this event, it's fun, it's lighthearted, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.400 but it's all it's just a hat tip to kind 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.080 of our rural, humble roots in the squirrel and squirrel world. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:37.640 Is that you think that's about? 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:38.559 Right? Absolutely? 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.920 I said, it's very much a heritage thing, especially with 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.360 me and and and even when you think about concessually 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.719 the things that we eat now, like chicken, I mean 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.040 it wasn't. I mean there, that's only I don't know, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.760 maybe the past seventy eighty years or something. But before then, 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:59.480 squirrel was the chicken. Yeah, idea, idea very much. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.040 Are you hunting with dogs or you like, still hunting. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:03.160 Still hunting primarily? 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:04.520 Yeah? Yeah? 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:09.559 You know Clinton or Clinton has the Jackson squirrel rifle 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:14.959 named after him. You know about that, So it's Cooper arms, right, yes, sir? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.760 And what's cool is coopting a joke? No, this ain't 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.520 no joke. Come on, I don't joke you. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.400 I hadn't even introduced you yet, go ahead. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.200 I'm the silent guy over here in the corner. But 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.440 there's a there's an gun manufacturer called Cooper Arms. They 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:34.560 were out of Montana and here recently state of Arkansas is. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.000 Now Cooper Arms out of Bariville, Okay. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:43.280 Now that rifle the most high dollar accurate squirrel rifle 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.720 you could buy. It's called a Jackson squirrel Rifle and 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.760 it's named after this man sitting right next to me. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.360 Oh, I did not know that. Yes, sir, I love it. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:57.600 That's awesome. Well, there, that's awesome thing. Clinton's like I 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:58.400 happened to have one. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:06.280 Right, it's probably been about maybe fourteen fifteen years. 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.079 Ago, and and they just heard about you and your 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.520 I mean just your reputation as a squirrel hunter, squirrel man. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.200 Well, actually I met the owner of the company at 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.040 the time, and he hadn't he grew up squirrel hunting, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.120 but he moved to Montana where squirrel hunting isn't a 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.040 big deal. And he said, whenever, and now this wasn't 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.680 the original rifle, but whenever the rifle that I ordered 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.920 would come in, he said he wanted to come in 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.600 and go squirrel hunting with me. I took him down 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.440 to the White River bottoms and we shot a squirrel 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.640 and he just loved it and just he wanted to 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.000 do something to kind of commemorate that. Oh and flew 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.560 me out there to the company and oh, that's prototypes 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.720 and he gave me serial number one. Oh wow, you 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.680 got it, I do. Oh, that's that's really neat. That's 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:54.200 really neat. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:55.400 Thank you. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.760 Well, the only guess I had introduced is Joe Wilson, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.520 the founder, Yes, sir, and the originator of this event. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.200 Joe tell us like, tell the world what's happened here today. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.360 Every year I'm more and more impressed. And you know, 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.600 you asked, I think we were kind of green room 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.800 in it at the time. How many of the people 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.000 standing around us, there's one hundred people plus standing around us, 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.440 how many of them are from Arkansas? And we got 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.480 about what Brent three four class. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.200 Yeah, it wasn't many. 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.000 It wasn't many. And to think that we bring people 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.679 from Hey, we had folks come from England today. And 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:37.360 I'm not saying like Texas or someplace like England. England 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.440 redcoats man come all the way across here. 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:44.280 I've talked to folks from Oregon, Yeah, Wisconsin. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:48.520 Wisconsin, all over this country, every point of the compass. 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:52.320 From right here, you're going to shoot at somebody's house. Yeah, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:52.920 that's coming. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.720 So what's impressive to me is we get people from 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.480 so many places, and you know that, we get fourteen 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.440 hundred inside of a room shooting bb guns and pellet rifles. 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.760 What's impressive is is I could look around and inside 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.080 this room right now, there's some camouflage, right, but you 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.760 see people who don't own any camouflage, right, And so 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.120 those are the people that I want to touch first. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.840 We've already got. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.000 The people in camouflage. We want to grab those people 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.360 that don't know why we do what we do. And 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.480 me and Kevin Murphy we talk on the phone and 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.280 we discussed how important it is that we get our youth, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:42.480 we get the unknowing involved in what we're doing. You 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.360 ain't going to sell the same truck to the same 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.560 guy every day, and so what we're trying to do 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.200 is we're trying to market this to people that wonder 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.560 why it is that we'll go out and get siggers 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.439 and ticks, you know, and so this is the way 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.680 to do it. Malcolm knows our way to get to 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:05.160 people in any community events through their through their stomachs, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.520 because if we could get through their stomachs, we could 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.640 get to their soul, absolutely, and we could start preaching 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:18.080 shirt box I want. But if we could, if we 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.760 could get through your stomach, we could get through your soul. Man. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:24.040 And breaking bread is as old as time. And so 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:30.560 today Malcolm serving a thousand bowls of jambli us, cooking 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.920 up one of the fish that nobody ever thinks they 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.880 want to eat, an old Asian carp and serving it 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.200 to thousands of people. All of this stuff that we've 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:44.880 done rabbits, you know, rabbits have forgotten protein and so 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.480 that to me is important. And the fact that we 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.680 know that today we made it. We made some more hunters, 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.679 and we made some people that will never hunt a 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.320 better supporter of what you preach every week on the show, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.360 you know, So that's important to me. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.840 So the tell me the structure. So we had usually 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.160 between thirty and forty teams, Yeah, that are competing for 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:12.080 the world title. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.360 We always shoot for forty. And you know you mentioned brisket. 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.560 If I asked for forty teams, come brisket. That's no 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.440 problem because you could go buy it. When I asked 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.480 for forty teams to cook squirrel you got to go 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.720 hunt it. And it ain't easy. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:30.360 Yeah. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.320 I mean, me and you did a deal the other 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.640 day at a circle k in the afternoon that we 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.080 were looking over our shoulders. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.360 I donated some squirrels to this event that had the freezer. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.880 Brent you to like it. I said, Joe, meet me 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.360 at that gas station off the Johnson exit and I 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.040 pull up beside him in the truck and he had 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.040 a guy I didn't know with him, and the guy 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.120 got out and I said, this is the snitches it 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.040 and Joe was like, no, he's good, and I'm like okay, 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.479 And then I reached in and got my stuff and 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.680 put the frozen squirrels in his b and I was like, 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.200 I hold on out of there. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.800 So I'm vaguely familiar with that concept. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.240 Yeah, I hold on out of there. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.760 It's it's real tough. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.160 I mean, people will sign up and then they'll figure 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.320 out the labor behind it. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.400 And how many squirrels do you think each team is 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:18.680 needing to compete? 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.720 I don't know. I'd say at a minimum, you probably 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:26.040 need ten. Okay, you need ten for the judges. That's 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.320 that's to put a pile on there. But you know, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.040 to do this, to feed these people, you need a 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:31.520 pile up. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:38.240 So everybody, every team's making like ten plates for ten judges. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:42.080 Or so, six entrees and six side dishes, and then. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:46.240 They're encouraged to give food samples to the public. So 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.280 that's kind of what people come to do, is try 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:49.240 all this squirrel. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.240 Yeah, let's hear from the crowd. How many of them 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:52.080 got to eat today? 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.360 Yeah? Did everybody get some squirrel today? Yeah? Did you 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.880 try something? Malcolm? Absolutely well, were you a judge? 0:15:58.960 --> 0:15:59.080 No? 0:15:59.120 --> 0:15:59.920 I didn't judge the day. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.040 We were busy out there with the jumble eye, but 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.640 people would bring it by. And that's see, Joe, that's 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.160 something special you have here too. Because all the barbecue 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.960 contests I go to, they don't let you share with 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.640 the general public, and so I think it hurts their 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.760 event because people come out and they come out with 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.120 this anticipation, Hey, I'm gonna get to try. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.320 Some barbecue, or they come to the squirrel cookoff. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:20.840 Guess what. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.280 All the teams are encouraged they want you know, they 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.320 may have never tried squirrel, but they're curious and they 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.120 come out and they get to try these dishes and 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:27.960 it's just amazing. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:28.800 You see what it's done. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.920 Yeah, you're right, men. Men Malcolms traveled the country going 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.800 to big cookoffs, you know, barbecue and steak and all that, 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:42.720 and we get ten times to hold more. We get 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.480 a lot more crowd. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:44.680 Than they do. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.040 And the reason is is we want you to be involved. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.880 Yeah, we want to feed you. Yeah. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.440 It's like going to a ball game and getting to play. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:55.480 Same deal. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.000 But for me, man Kevin Murphy, you know, if you 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.000 google the name Ebb and Murphy and put say squirrel 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.200 or rabbit behind it, what's it say? 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:08.720 The world's greatest small game hunter says here, take. 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.640 Me in right. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.080 I want to know from the crowd here who didn't 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.720 have an opportunity to eat some type of wild game today? 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.080 What's wrong with this guy? He must be vegan or something. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:32.280 What times you get here? So to be a wild 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.200 you know, to be a hunter, it's not forever. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.120 Look what's happening, Kenny. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.879 Oh, he got a squirrel leggs Josh. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.400 All right, I'm gonna ask this question again. How many 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.560 people here today didn't have an opportunity to eat some 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:53.280 type of wild game meat nobody. So your mission is complete, yes, sir. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.960 Not everyone is meant to be a hunter. We don't 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.080 want everybody. We want that ten percent of the by 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.760 the hardy people. Not everybody is meant to be a 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.040 dog hunter. We want that one percent. Handle this dog 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.199 for three hundred and sixty five days a year to 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.400 maybe to go hunting sixty days, or if you're retired 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.639 and work all through the summertime, you can go one 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.320 hundred days. And that's what's on my calendar this year. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:18.560 But to be a small game hunter, you can be 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.359 a minimalist. You just need a rifle or a shotgun, 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.240 a box of shells and you can go to the 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.600 woods with a hunting license. Or if you're a youth, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.800 do you wait for the free youth day and go. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.440 But that's why you get a taste of hunting there, 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.520 and that's where you learn your skills. You start at 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.200 the bottom, work your way to the top and figure 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.240 out is this for me or is this not for me? 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.200 And then you graduate to say, hey, I want to 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:46.359 be a deer hunter, turkey hunter, rabbit hunter, out west hunter, 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.240 or across the pond hunter. I'm going to Iceland in 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.399 October to hunt ptarmigant. So I've been very fortunate to 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:59.600 be around everybody and see everybody. And you know, on Tuesday, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:01.920 I'll be sixty five on the outside and I'm still 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.960 like twenty one twenty two on the inside. So you know, 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.560 hunting keeps me young. I go with a lot of 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.679 young hunters. I tried to teach them, a bunch of 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.680 pilgrims out there. Some of them got no skill whatsoever. 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:19.360 We take a bunch of college kids every December from 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.920 the BHA, take them out hunting. And this last year 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.960 we had a young girl that grew up with no 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.840 farms in her house. Her mom was adamantly against farms. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.199 Day had just went along with her mom and she 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.760 went squirrel hunting with us. Got to kill her first squirrel, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.840 got her to skin a squirrel. And that's what it's about. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.840 It's about one small win at a time, and that's 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:41.480 what we've all all got a deck. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.920 Hey, if we would have forgot hunting, if it wasn't 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.960 for people passing it down to us, and we would 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:54.240 forgot how to cook squirrel if there ain't those recipes 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:59.400 out there. You know, and so it's our duty everybody 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.080 in this room to brag. I know you're humble, Clay, 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:09.080 I know you're I'm not that humble, but anybody Turkey color. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.520 But you know what I mean, all of us have 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.040 our duty to pass it on, whether it's to our 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:19.119 children or somebody else's. And and that's what's cool about 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:23.119 watching Clifton out there showing people how to skin these things. 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.399 One of the biggest problems of small game honey is 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.040