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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of

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Speaker 1: the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render where

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Speaker 1: we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the actual bear Grease podcast. Presented by f h

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Speaker 1: F Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear

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Speaker 1: that's designed to be as rugged as the place as

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Speaker 1: we explore today.

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Speaker 2: We got like a deep rides from.

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Speaker 1: Marito and promise sirl chips on the side. Yeah, sputilla

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Speaker 1: chim that's forrtilla chips.

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Speaker 3: We're making a it's a campfire Carbland campfire by It's

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Speaker 3: made with a horn sauce that around since of seventeen

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Speaker 3: hundred five game sauce.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: That makes me hungry just just thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: Squirrel, I don't know all we're going to the ground.

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Speaker 3: We're testing the fritters. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now, my grandpa when he took a bite of something,

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Speaker 5: you know he liked it.

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Speaker 4: If he said, you know what, this tastes like, it

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Speaker 4: tastes like more.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Good, We'll get you a full deal with everything on

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Speaker 4: with that's good man, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Going to squirrel Cookie. We found ourselves at the World

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Speaker 1: Championship World Championship Squirrel Cookoff Big Springdale, Arkansas, Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: With a W.

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Speaker 1: That's right, right, that's right now, this is uh, we're

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Speaker 1: in Springdale, Arkansas. Man, the guests that I have in

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Speaker 1: front of me, and this is this is like the

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Speaker 1: this is like dream team, dream team, beggery shrender. Here.

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Speaker 1: We got Brent he's right here working undercover as usual.

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Speaker 5: Won't even know it's him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's so good we don't even care anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Then we got Kevin Murphy from Kentucky. Came with stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's got his squirrel dog, looks like he's got a

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Speaker 1: nine millimeter on his side, and he brought a Kentucky

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Speaker 1: long rifle.

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Speaker 5: Do you mind if I tell you this right quick?

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Speaker 5: Yesterday when Kevin was unloading to get here, I've got

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Speaker 5: a couple of pet peeves in life, and one of

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Speaker 5: them is it's my socks. Okay, A pair of socks

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Speaker 5: will wreck your life. Kevin Murphy drives all the way

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Speaker 5: from Kentucky with a hole in his sock to where

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Speaker 5: the third knuckle on his big toe was showing through.

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Speaker 5: A matter of fact, his ankle was almost through his sock.

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Speaker 5: I know, why did you see his socks because I said,

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Speaker 5: you got shoes on for the first time I ever

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Speaker 5: seen you. And he pulls off his shoe and he's

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Speaker 5: got a hole all the way through his sock. And

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Speaker 5: I thought I could well Kevin Murphy till I've seen

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Speaker 5: how tough he was, because there ain't no way I

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Speaker 5: could drive from Kentucky arkansall the whole of myself like that.

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Speaker 1: He's an efficient man.

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Speaker 3: I was told not to go barefooted, so I had

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Speaker 3: to let the big toe hang out.

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Speaker 1: Do you go barefoot much?

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Speaker 3: Hell? No? Okay, my feace as tender as a baby's butt.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, just checking, just checking. So we've got Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Reid from Mississippi. Where do you live in Mississippi?

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Speaker 2: Malcolm, I live in Hernando Desorta County just south of

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Speaker 2: Memphis a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not too far from the Arkansas line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And man, Malcolm is a world famous barbecue man. You

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Speaker 1: were on the podcast last year and I've since been

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Speaker 1: following you. He's like the evil Canieval of Barbara.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for real. He breaks older.

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Speaker 1: He comes on and he's got a huge, huge following

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and YouTube, like massive. He comes on there

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Speaker 1: and it's like, uh, it's like, guess what I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do today? Folks? Yep, and man, it's always good.

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Speaker 6: Well, I just like to eat, so you can tell

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Speaker 6: I hold back.

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Speaker 1: Now, what were you doing here today?

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Speaker 6: I came back for the squirrel cook Off?

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Speaker 2: You know, I had such a good time last year

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Speaker 2: here that I that when Joe asked us that we

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Speaker 4: Like, absolutely, did you cook?

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Speaker 2: I didn't cook in the contest, but we cooked jumble Lie.

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Speaker 2: We cooked three rounds of jumble Lie. Probably fed over

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Speaker 2: about a thousand people today. Come on, we brought a

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Speaker 2: thousand bowls and we ran out of bowls.

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Speaker 5: Wow, they were eating it out of the palm of

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Speaker 4: Give me I had I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna I'm gonna come to you last, Joe. We've got

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Speaker 1: We've got Clifton Jackson. Why is everybody yelling? Todd Razorbacks?

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Speaker 1: Are playing? Playing? Who we playing today?

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Speaker 4: Some little team from Oklahoma? I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know what they're called. But we

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Speaker 1: just tied up the game with like a few seconds left.

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Speaker 1: Clifton Jackson. Man, this guy right here, he's glowing we're

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Speaker 1: amongst the world champions today, world champion hill billy, World

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Speaker 1: champion barbecue, World Champion squirrel skinner. Man, it's good to

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Speaker 1: have you.

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Speaker 7: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: So you've been the so at this event, the World

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Speaker 1: Championship Squirrel cook Off. We also have the World Championship

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Speaker 1: Squirrel Skinning Contest. And you've won how many years, Clifton?

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Speaker 7: Every year?

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Speaker 5: Dominated you know, Humble is a big part of this program.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it ain't.

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Speaker 4: Bragging if it's fact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No.

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Speaker 7: Where do you live, Clifton, Surewood, Arkansas?

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Speaker 1: And you work for the Game and Fish.

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Speaker 7: I do twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: Man, tell me what you do for the Arkansas Game Fish.

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Speaker 7: I'm a wildlife biologist.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 7: I have several w as that I'm in it.

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Speaker 1: Now are you are you the squirrel biologist or is

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Speaker 1: that just kind of like a no no?

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm usually the go to person with squirrels,

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Speaker 7: but nah, no, we don't. We don't have a small

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Speaker 7: game pologist anymore.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was you were the That's what I remember.

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Speaker 1: You were the small game bologists for the Arkansas Game

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Speaker 1: and Fish Commission. Man, So could do you uh, did

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Speaker 1: you ever do any research on squirrels or anything or

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Speaker 1: were you just mainly involved in like management, Well.

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Speaker 7: Mainly other things like rabbits, and then I had quail

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Speaker 7: for a while too, until they separated that to another

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Speaker 7: one sole person, But not so much to do with

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Speaker 7: squirrels per se. For management, it's just getting people to

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really like deer in Turkey and bear

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Speaker 1: it's different than that, am I right?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, And it's actually kind of when you

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Speaker 7: say it, that's the d verse of deer hunting, where

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Speaker 7: it's like, you know, ninety five percent participation rates amongst hunters.

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Speaker 7: Squirrel hunting used to be like that, but it's just

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Speaker 7: hasn't been like that anymore, and trying to get people

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was asking me today if if I think that

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Speaker 1: squirrel hunting and small game hunting is coming back, and

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Speaker 1: I kind of gave them a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: wildlife tour and history tour. Is that back when my

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Speaker 1: grandfather maybe your father were growing up in the nineteen thirties, twenties, thirties, forties,

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Speaker 1: there was no there wasn't much big game in Arkansas

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Speaker 1: I mean, whitetail deer, bear, turkeys, all these things were

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Speaker 1: very low numbers. And if you were a hunter, if

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Speaker 1: you were trying to get game, you were a small

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Speaker 1: game hunter. I mean you were hunting quail, you're hunting squirrel,

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Speaker 1: you're hunting rabbits. And then fifties, sixties, seventies, all these game,

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Speaker 1: It just kind of took off. And so it's like

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Speaker 1: the hunting community is shifted more towards big game stuff.

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Speaker 1: But this reporter asked me why I thought this was

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Speaker 1: significant what we do here, and to me, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it's a hat tip to our

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Speaker 1: roots and poverty. Really, it's like, because that's you don't

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Speaker 1: have there was a time when you probably had to

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Speaker 1: eat squirrel. Yeah, we don't have to eat squirrel today.

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Speaker 4: We could.

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Speaker 1: We could have been celebrating brisket.

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Speaker 7: Might have that would have been good.

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Speaker 6: There's something squirrel dishes that will give a brisk run.

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Speaker 1: And and you know this event, it's fun, it's lighthearted,

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Speaker 1: but it's all it's just a hat tip to kind

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Speaker 1: of our rural, humble roots in the squirrel and squirrel world.

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Speaker 1: Is that you think that's about?

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Speaker 4: Right? Absolutely?

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Speaker 7: I said, it's very much a heritage thing, especially with

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Speaker 7: it wasn't. I mean there, that's only I don't know,

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Speaker 7: maybe the past seventy eighty years or something. But before then,

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Speaker 7: squirrel was the chicken. Yeah, idea, idea very much.

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Speaker 1: Are you hunting with dogs or you like, still hunting.

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Speaker 7: Still hunting primarily?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You know Clinton or Clinton has the Jackson squirrel rifle

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Speaker 5: named after him. You know about that, So it's Cooper arms, right, yes, sir?

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Speaker 5: And what's cool is coopting a joke? No, this ain't

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Speaker 5: no joke. Come on, I don't joke you.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't even introduced you yet, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I'm the silent guy over here in the corner. But

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Speaker 5: there's a there's an gun manufacturer called Cooper Arms. They

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Speaker 5: were out of Montana and here recently state of Arkansas is.

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Speaker 1: Now Cooper Arms out of Bariville, Okay.

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Speaker 5: Now that rifle the most high dollar accurate squirrel rifle

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Speaker 5: you could buy. It's called a Jackson squirrel Rifle and

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Speaker 5: it's named after this man sitting right next to me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I did not know that. Yes, sir, I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, there, that's awesome thing. Clinton's like I

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Speaker 1: happened to have one.

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Speaker 7: Right, it's probably been about maybe fourteen fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, and and they just heard about you and your

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Speaker 1: I mean just your reputation as a squirrel hunter, squirrel man.

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Speaker 7: Well, actually I met the owner of the company at

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Speaker 7: the time, and he hadn't he grew up squirrel hunting,

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Speaker 7: but he moved to Montana where squirrel hunting isn't a

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Speaker 7: big deal. And he said, whenever, and now this wasn't

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Speaker 7: the original rifle, but whenever the rifle that I ordered

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Speaker 7: would come in, he said he wanted to come in

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Speaker 7: and go squirrel hunting with me. I took him down

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Speaker 7: to the White River bottoms and we shot a squirrel

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Speaker 7: and he just loved it and just he wanted to

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Speaker 7: do something to kind of commemorate that. Oh and flew

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Speaker 7: me out there to the company and oh, that's prototypes

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Speaker 7: and he gave me serial number one. Oh wow, you

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Speaker 7: got it, I do. Oh, that's that's really neat. That's

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Speaker 7: really neat.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Well, the only guess I had introduced is Joe Wilson,

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Speaker 1: the founder, Yes, sir, and the originator of this event.

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Speaker 5: Every year I'm more and more impressed. And you know,

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Speaker 5: about what Brent three four class.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't many. And to think that we bring people

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Speaker 1: I've talked to folks from Oregon, Yeah, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 8: Wisconsin, all over this country, every point of the compass.

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Speaker 8: From right here, you're going to shoot at somebody's house. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So what's impressive to me is we get people from

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Speaker 5: What's impressive is is I could look around and inside

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Speaker 5: those are the people that I want to touch first.

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Speaker 1: We've already got.

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Speaker 5: The people in camouflage. We want to grab those people

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Speaker 5: why it is that we'll go out and get siggers

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Speaker 5: people in any community events through their through their stomachs,

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Speaker 5: get to their soul, absolutely, and we could start preaching

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Speaker 5: And breaking bread is as old as time. And so

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Speaker 5: today Malcolm serving a thousand bowls of jambli us, cooking

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Speaker 5: to thousands of people. All of this stuff that we've

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Speaker 5: that to me is important. And the fact that we

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Speaker 5: know that today we made it. We made some more hunters,

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Speaker 5: and we made some people that will never hunt a

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Speaker 5: you know, So that's important to me.

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Speaker 1: So the tell me the structure. So we had usually

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Speaker 5: We always shoot for forty. And you know you mentioned brisket.

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Speaker 5: If I asked for forty teams, come brisket. That's no

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Speaker 5: problem because you could go buy it. When I asked

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Speaker 5: for forty teams to cook squirrel you got to go

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, me and you did a deal the other

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Speaker 1: I donated some squirrels to this event that had the freezer.

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Speaker 1: Brent you to like it. I said, Joe, meet me

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Speaker 1: I hold on out of there.

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Speaker 4: So I'm vaguely familiar with that concept.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hold on out of there.

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Speaker 1: It's it's real tough.

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Speaker 5: I mean, people will sign up and then they'll figure

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Speaker 1: And how many squirrels do you think each team is

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I'd say at a minimum, you probably

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Speaker 5: need ten. Okay, you need ten for the judges. That's

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Speaker 5: that's to put a pile on there. But you know,

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Speaker 1: So everybody, every team's making like ten plates for ten judges.

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Speaker 5: Or so, six entrees and six side dishes, and then.

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Speaker 1: They're encouraged to give food samples to the public. So

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what people come to do, is try

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's hear from the crowd. How many of them

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Did everybody get some squirrel today? Yeah? Did you

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Speaker 1: try something? Malcolm? Absolutely well, were you a judge?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: I didn't judge the day.

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Speaker 2: We were busy out there with the jumble eye, but

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Speaker 2: something special you have here too. Because all the barbecue

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Speaker 6: Some barbecue, or they come to the squirrel cookoff.

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Speaker 4: Guess what.

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Speaker 2: All the teams are encouraged they want you know, they

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Speaker 4: You see what it's done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, men. Men Malcolms traveled the country going

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Speaker 4: Than they do.

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Speaker 5: And the reason is is we want you to be involved.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we want to feed you. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: It's like going to a ball game and getting to play.

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Speaker 4: Same deal.

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Speaker 5: But for me, man Kevin Murphy, you know, if you

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Speaker 5: google the name Ebb and Murphy and put say squirrel

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Speaker 1: The world's greatest small game hunter says here, take.

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Speaker 9: Me in right.

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Speaker 3: I want to know from the crowd here who didn't

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Speaker 5: What's wrong with this guy? He must be vegan or something.

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Speaker 3: What times you get here? So to be a wild

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Speaker 5: Look what's happening, Kenny.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna ask this question again. How many

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Speaker 3: Not everyone is meant to be a hunter. We don't

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Speaker 3: for three hundred and sixty five days a year to

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Speaker 3: But to be a small game hunter, you can be

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Speaker 3: But that's why you get a taste of hunting there,

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Speaker 3: And then you graduate to say, hey, I want to

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Speaker 3: We take a bunch of college kids every December from

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Speaker 3: got her to skin a squirrel. And that's what it's about.

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Speaker 3: It's about one small win at a time, and that's

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Speaker 5: Hey, if we would have forgot hunting, if it wasn't

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Speaker 5: forgot how to cook squirrel if there ain't those recipes

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Speaker 1: Lot, Yeah, Malcolm, did you do any squirrel hunting this year?

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Speaker 1: I know last year you were telling me about hunting

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Speaker 6: So I had I had to go out and buy

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Speaker 2: I just I didn't go anything crazy, just a little

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Speaker 2: we've had we've had a ball doing it, and my

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Speaker 6: But we we, uh, we have a big time squirrel hunt.

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Speaker 2: I'm not crazy about the ticks and chiggers. I like

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody can go sitt in a deer stand

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Speaker 1: A communality pictures squirrels, that's right, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And when we've got so many of them, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's really fun and it's a great it's

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Speaker 2: a great way to.

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Speaker 6: Spend time outdoors.

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Speaker 2: And if you can take somebody along and teach a

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Speaker 6: You know, clean the squirrel.

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Speaker 2: All this is life lessons that man, I just I

441
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Speaker 2: get behind it hundred percent.

442
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Speaker 1: You got any killer squirrel recipes? I mean this guy

443
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Speaker 1: watch stuff.

444
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Speaker 4: You know.

445
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Speaker 2: That's on my list now, Clay to do some squirrel

446
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: recipes this fall, because I have never done a video

447
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: with one, you know, you know, squirrel and gravy.

448
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: That's that's the.

449
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 6: One we like to do for that squirrel simmer down.

450
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

451
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Speaker 2: I don't get really, I've never really gotten too crazy

452
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Speaker 2: with squirrel. But after coming to this contest and seeing

453
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Speaker 2: what these ship I call them outdoor chefs, because these

454
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Speaker 2: jerkers are coming up with recipes that are incredible. I

455
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 2: mean it's not just your standard stuff. Yeah, you can

456
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Speaker 2: do anything with that squirrel.

457
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Speaker 1: Met What what are some of the examples of stuff

458
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Speaker 1: that people did today today?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Impanadus was one.

460
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Speaker 1: Well today today.

461
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Speaker 5: I think we hit new highs. And if I'm gonna

462
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Speaker 5: be honest, which I like to be, we may have

463
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Speaker 5: hit a couple of new loaves.

464
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Speaker 1: No fence to the cooks.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know it was we were lucky that

466
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Speaker 5: early on we had the best representation of what a

467
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 5: box should look like and we had one that wasn't

468
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Speaker 5: the best, okay, And so it gave me the ability

469
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Speaker 5: to kind of teach judges, Hey, y'all, this is what

470
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: presentation should look like, and this is what it shouldn't.

471
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Speaker 5: But with that being said, there was, man, there was

472
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Speaker 5: a squirrel pizza today that would knock your socks off

473
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Speaker 5: with a fried ravioli. That was awesome.

474
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Speaker 8: I a squirrel cookie. I swear I would rob the

475
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Speaker 8: liquor store for.

476
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Speaker 5: There was a squirrel cookie. There was a squirrel ice

477
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Speaker 5: cream showed up again today.

478
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Speaker 1: Oh I heard about that. I remember that from last

479
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: squirrel ice cream.

480
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Speaker 5: Hey, Kevin Murphy, what's the one organ on the squirrel?

481
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Speaker 5: They say, it's probably like on a pair of boots

482
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Speaker 5: or something bad for you in California?

483
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: Which which part of the squirrel has.

484
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 5: Been known to cause products?

485
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 3: The thinking part, the thinking part.

486
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Speaker 5: We had a squirrel brain ice cream show up.

487
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Speaker 1: Was anybody worried about eating it?

488
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Speaker 5: I told everybody, Hey, this is the part of the

489
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Speaker 5: squirrel that could cause your heart. Yeah, now go ahead

490
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Speaker 5: and eat it.

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Speaker 1: What's the science behind that? Do you know that Clifton.

492
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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean it's it's it's not been definitively

493
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Speaker 7: linked to, you know, the Crisfield Jacob's disease. But I

494
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 7: mean I think there was somebody, you know, some people.

495
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Speaker 7: I said something about it if I.

496
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Speaker 8: Read an article about this not too long ago, and

497
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Speaker 8: I talked about it on the podcast. It was a

498
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Speaker 8: group of individuals overla like them four or five year period.

499
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Speaker 8: They were in a very small area in Kentucky that

500
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Speaker 8: that contracted the disease and.

501
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Speaker 1: The what's the name of the disease.

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Speaker 7: It's Chrisfield Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: That's Jacobs mad cow disease.

504
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a life it's like for humans.

505
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and they had they all the only qualifier for

506
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 8: all of them was they had all eaten squirrel brains.

507
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Speaker 5: We'll find out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So we squirrel brains I have.

509
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Speaker 4: I don't explain.

510
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Speaker 1: So do you not like it or do you not

511
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Speaker 1: eat it because you're afraid of.

512
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Speaker 3: There's a thing called a prion and you can put

513
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Speaker 3: it in an autoclave and it will not kill it.

514
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: It's a protein that gets in the brain. Do not

515
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Speaker 3: eat I recommend that you do not eat brain from

516
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Speaker 3: anything back home.

517
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Speaker 1: But it's a traditional dish though, Oh yes, I mean

518
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: squirrel brains and eggs is something that I grew up

519
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Speaker 1: hearing people.

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Speaker 5: Talk about cavia.

521
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, but yes, I've eat it. It's

522
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Speaker 3: a delicacy. A lot of people when they would go

523
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Speaker 3: squirrel hunting, they woudn't shoot them in the head with

524
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Speaker 3: the twenty two because they wanted to serve up fried

525
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: squirrel brains in the skull. And then they would, like

526
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: a butter knife, crack it open and open it up,

527
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: and that was the ultimate.

528
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Speaker 5: We just lost half the listeners.

529
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Speaker 3: So I've done a lot of research. Man, I'm a

530
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Speaker 3: wastewater guy. You know, when I go to somewhere foreign country.

531
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Speaker 3: Next time I go see Steve out Montana, I'm gonna

532
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Speaker 3: go to their wastewater plant because they've got the state

533
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: of the art your wastewater plant. But we had a

534
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: local architect back where I live, and he came down

535
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Speaker 3: with crutch Phil's Jacob's disease. And the only thing they

536
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: could think of was he was taking a vitamin that

537
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: was made out of a from Europe, made out of

538
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Speaker 3: a cow patratory glan. So that's the reason why I

539
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Speaker 3: say do not eat brain matter from any any animal.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I highly recommend.

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Speaker 5: So let's see if I can start another topic. Man,

542
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Speaker 5: we also had plenty of egg rolls. We had a

543
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Speaker 5: squirrel sushi show up. I'll leave it at that. You've

544
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 5: had squirrel sushi, didn't you. Yes, yeah, we had squirrel

545
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: sushi in the past.

546
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Speaker 3: He had it about fifteen minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see skin contest.

548
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 7: Did you see that Clay?

549
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 5: Did you see Clifton in the skin and content?

550
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: Oh?

551
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah video?

552
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 5: Did you see the technique to win the championship?

553
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: This?

554
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, tail method? Well, I mean the teeth. Oh no, no, no,

555
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: I didn't see the first one. I actually saw him

556
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Speaker 1: win the first heat.

557
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 5: He had to go straight to the mouth and pull

558
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Speaker 5: that skin off with his teeth to win.

559
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: And here this is true. Yeah, yes, Why did you

560
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: have to do that?

561
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Speaker 7: Well, I had an arm that had been shattered right

562
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 7: there at the joint and it was just you know,

563
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 7: when I had it was slick as an al pellet

564
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 7: trying to pull that knee out, so I couldn't. I

565
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 7: just had to use my teeth.

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Speaker 5: And you know what's even odd.

567
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Slick is an al pellet. We'll be using that one.

568
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well, I'll give we have to give you credit,

569
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: but we're What's odd is the second place in the

570
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 5: world also went to the te No way. I've been

571
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: watching Clifton just dominate this event for years. Today was

572
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 5: as tough as he had it. I mean it was

573
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 5: neck and neck.

574
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Speaker 1: So who's the other guy?

575
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 5: What's his name?

576
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: Mitch?

577
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: Yoah, Mitch. Mitch is in the Service.

578
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: He's an army recruiter.

579
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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Mitch, just walk up.

580
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 5: Here so we can get you on film just one second.

581
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, where are you from, Mitch? Do you know

582
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: this guy? You don't know what? Okay, Well, I guess

583
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: you better practice a little more to get in the gym,

584
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: work out those arms.

585
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: Mitch is in the Service, he's a he's an armor recruiter.

586
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: Oh cool man, that's good. That's good.

587
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

588
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: So they were neck and neck, got it all the

589
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 5: way down. I bet you there wasn't two three seconds

590
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: in between the two of them.

591
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: Oh, it was tight.

592
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: It's tough. He pushed me, he pushed, Yeah, this is

593
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: it's kind of like Jordan winning that like fifth title,

594
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: kind of getting a little lazy, and.

595
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: Then he's gonna start trying Baseball Day.

596
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Uh, but we haven't announced the winner yet. No, who

597
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: did the Razorbacks win? I'm afraid they didn't.

598
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 5: We just lost.

599
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: Scratch that from the tape. Can you take no, we

600
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: that it's not that we lost it.

601
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: They cheated, Yeah, they cheated.

602
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I heard they cheated. So we have not announced the

603
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: winner for this year yet though.

604
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 5: Now as soon as this shows over, we're gonna go

605
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: out and get on stage and we're going to handle it.

606
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 5: I got my buddy across from me. He helped me

607
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 5: out on getting them case knives as their awards.

608
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

609
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, we're gonna present the winners world champion with

610
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 8: a case knife, right, yeah?

611
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, what's your if you could if you could hunt

613
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: one thing the rest of your life, you only had

614
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: one dog that did one thing and you got the hunt,

615
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: that's it. What would it be? Squirrel, rabbit, falconry, kangaroo?

616
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Speaker 3: Well, probably one of the most exciting the question.

617
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like, well, let me let me tell

618
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Speaker 1: you about my policy.

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Speaker 3: Swamp rabbits.

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Speaker 1: There you go, swamp rabbits with beagles, Yes, swamp rabbits

621
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Speaker 1: of beagles. I'll be done.

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Speaker 3: Because you know, to go get a squirrel. You got

623
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Speaker 3: a good dog. The squirrel is going to be in

624
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: that tree, or he's not going to be in the tree.

625
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: You hit a swamp rabbit, your dogs might running back

626
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: to you. They might not. Those dudes are smart. They

627
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: go in hose, they swim rivers. Man, I've seen them

628
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Speaker 3: do just amazing things.

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Speaker 1: So the rabbit is like the thinking man's small game. Yes,

630
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Speaker 1: just the heel Billy's tree them with squirrels and shoot them.

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Speaker 3: The big game a small game, and I can go

632
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: I can go out, put that on a shirt, and

633
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: I can go out my door within a half mile

634
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Speaker 3: and start hanging.

635
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: You got swamp rabbits in Kentucky. Yes, now it's a

636
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: it's actually a different species of rabbit than a cottontail.

637
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the largest cottontail rabbit.

638
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: But it's a different species. Or it's just a big one.

639
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: No, it's a different species.

640
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Speaker 1: Okay, do we have them here?

641
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: They're I've hunted them down around the cotton patch, So

642
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly where that is from Wigs. I

643
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: hang out with those deer dog hunter guys down there.

644
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: But it's along the drainage of the Mississippi River up

645
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: to about Saint Louis and then as far north it's

646
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: probably not hardly, uh, Cincinnati, and then all the way

647
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: down to the Louisiana. But but Bergman's rule is the

648
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: further north that you go on a mammal, the bigger

649
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: it goes. So what I want to do is drive

650
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Speaker 3: up around Saint Louis somewhere and try to find the

651
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: extended range of it. The biggest one I have killed

652
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: so far or in our hunting party is like six

653
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: pound weighed with a turkey scale, so you know it's

654
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: right on it. It's right right on the money. And

655
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: so I hope to go like two hours north and

656
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 3: get a six and a half pound.

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Speaker 1: Be like a world record.

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00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm going for.

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Speaker 1: Crocket impressive. That's good. That's why you're the world's greatest

660
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Speaker 1: small game hunting. You're thinking, you're thinking like a champion.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

662
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 1: Clifton, When when will you start squirrel hunting? If you

664
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Speaker 1: already squrel hunting something this fall or like typically, when

665
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Speaker 1: would you start?

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Speaker 7: Typically I would have started last weekend. This is this

667
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 7: will be the latest that I've ever started this year. Really, Yeah,

668
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Speaker 7: So I always go at least by September first.

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, this is a good topic of conversation. I

670
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Speaker 1: had somebody the other day tell me that the liberalization

671
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Speaker 1: of squirrel hunting, which is a positive thing, like our

672
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Speaker 1: squirrel season is basically nine months long, or maybe even

673
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Speaker 1: ten months.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, made fifteenth to the end of February.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's off for three months. It's not on

676
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Speaker 1: for three months pretty much March April May. The guy

677
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Speaker 1: told me, he said that took away the prime season opener,

678
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Speaker 1: which the season opener is just kind of this like

679
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Speaker 1: hype that we all have, which used to be like

680
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Speaker 1: September first. Absolutely, And he was saying, man, when we

681
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Speaker 1: were kids, we'd camp out for you know, days for

682
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Speaker 1: the squirrel opener. But now that they've done us good,

683
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Speaker 1: I mean, like we can hunt anytime. It's not a complaint.

684
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Speaker 1: It was just interesting, he said. People don't get it

685
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Speaker 1: excited because the season opener is not like a few

686
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Speaker 1: people are hunting in May, and it's just you can

687
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Speaker 1: hunt all the time. What do you think about that?

688
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Speaker 7: I do miss it. Uh, you know, I missed that

689
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Speaker 7: cultural it is very much. I mean, we still will

690
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Speaker 7: have squirrel camp and we do squirrel camp, but that

691
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Speaker 7: opener even as the season changed, you know, it used

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Speaker 7: to be October one, and then what depends on the zones.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's like a you know story past of

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Speaker 7: those dates being like you're talking about like the big opener,

695
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Speaker 7: and now we've taken that away. And then the limit

696
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Speaker 7: changed to twelve.

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Speaker 4: What was it for?

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Speaker 7: It was eight for most of my life. Really yep, yep.

699
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 7: Now it's twelve per person per day. So I think

700
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Speaker 7: that did take some of this thing.

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Speaker 5: You know what I think Clifton, that I think that

702
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Speaker 5: me and Kevin's talked about. I think me and you

703
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 5: talked about it. It's it's squirrel hunting is a hard

704
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Speaker 5: thing to market because we don't have a bunch of

705
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Speaker 5: cool stuff to sell you to make you a better

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Speaker 5: squirrel hunt. We you could you could spray vanilla flavored

707
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Speaker 5: deodoring on and go kill a squirrel. You know, it

708
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 5: don't matter, And so you could wear what we're all

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Speaker 5: wearing right now and go squirrel hunt. So, since it's

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Speaker 5: so hard to market, it's real hard to put on TV. True,

711
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Speaker 5: And so since we're not putting it on TV, there's

712
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of people never see it. And so

713
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Speaker 5: one of the times you get to see the benefits

714
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Speaker 5: of it is right here at the this event. Now,

715
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Speaker 5: you're a great marketer of small game hunting. I see

716
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Speaker 5: you out on the mules doing it. You've done a

717
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Speaker 5: phenomenal job. Kevin's done a phenomenal job. Clifton's done a

718
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Speaker 5: phenomenal job. I've tried to catch up to you guys

719
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Speaker 5: a little bit over the last dozen years, but this

720
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Speaker 5: is our biggest marketing day of the year for squirrel hunting.

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Speaker 5: You see it on news all across the country. Overseas,

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Speaker 5: people see this event. So I ain't saying we need

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Speaker 5: to do one of these every week. I ain't got

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Speaker 5: the time for that. But you know, the industry itself

725
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Speaker 5: and agencies and departments really need to start thinking about inflation.

726
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Speaker 5: It's still cheap to go squirrel hunting, you know all

727
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Speaker 5: the stuff. If you're a father, a mother and you

728
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Speaker 5: want to get your kids in the outdoors, at least

729
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Speaker 5: give this a shot first man.

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Speaker 8: And this has always been a good It's always been

731
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Speaker 8: traditionally anywhere you go, folks kids start out shooting squirrels

732
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Speaker 8: before they start shooting deer, and what the elk and

733
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Speaker 8: whatever and it's always a good introduction, yep, to what

734
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Speaker 8: we all love to do, you know, and you can

735
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Speaker 8: do it with dog. You can add a dog as

736
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Speaker 8: an extra component which will take you to whether you're

737
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Speaker 8: chasing coons like I do, or you're running codes or

738
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Speaker 8: bobcats or whatever. You know, it's just a good a

739
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Speaker 8: good introduction. I agree, Joe, it's good.

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Speaker 5: I just think we need to do a better job

741
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Speaker 5: of marketing. And you know, Kevin will tell you, well,

742
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: we don't want everybody in it, you know, but really

743
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: Kevin may not feel that way. I think if everybody

744
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 5: would just give it a shot, it's a great time.

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Speaker 5: You can talk while squirrel hunt. You can walk around

746
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Speaker 5: and carry on a story and squirrel hunt. There's not

747
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 5: really an age when it's not right. If you could

748
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Speaker 5: walk get out there and walk behind somebody and try

749
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Speaker 5: to do it, and the benefits of it is, at

750
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Speaker 5: the end of the day you might be able to

751
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Speaker 5: make a squirrel pizza out of the deal.

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Speaker 4: Kid.

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Speaker 3: I can remember in nineteen eighty seven I had a

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Speaker 3: Border Collie and I had some people come in from

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Speaker 3: Alaska that had been living there for a couple of

756
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Speaker 3: years and hunting and stuff and I took them hunting,

757
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 3: and they said, and this is the greatest hunt I've

758
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: ever had in my entire life. Now, one person was

759
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: from Ohi, the others Illinois. You know they're out there.

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Speaker 3: They do I set up now, y'all, don't buy it.

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Speaker 3: Just work off my license. That's okay in fishing game department.

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Speaker 1: So I said, just work off my license. This was

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Speaker 1: a long time ago, long long time.

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Speaker 3: So I would give them a gun and then they

765
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Speaker 3: would want to shoot, I says, and they would want

766
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: to like free hand, and I had a twenty two magnum. Man,

767
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Speaker 3: you really need to shoot them in the head because

768
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Speaker 3: we're going to eat them and clean them. And you know,

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Speaker 3: they just told me that said, man, this is the

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Speaker 3: greatest hunt we've ever met. We've never had any more fun.

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Speaker 3: And then like Joe said, you can take kids out there,

772
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Speaker 3: you can talk, you can have a good time in fellowship.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, every year we take ten

774
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Speaker 3: to twelve college students out there to go squirrel hunting

775
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Speaker 3: and have a big time. And you can fellowship and

776
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Speaker 3: you only need to be quiet for like, okay, now's

777
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Speaker 3: the time to be quiet. We're gonna shoot the squirrel

778
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: and it's your turn to shoot. You get a shot,

779
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Speaker 3: and then you get a shot, and we rotate around

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Speaker 3: and then the shotgunner don't let him get away because

781
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Speaker 3: the pressure is on you when he's running.

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Speaker 1: So who said that? Somebody can say something? Hey, okay,

783
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Speaker 1: I got a question for for the squirrel masters here.

784
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Speaker 1: What's your doctrine on shotguns versus twenty two s Clifton?

785
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Speaker 1: Do you have a doctor on.

786
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 7: A rim fire purist? Kind of just I just really like.

787
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Speaker 3: Just tell her.

788
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: Thank you for a rim fire purist.

789
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's it's it's usually they're a little

790
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Speaker 7: more arrogant. It's just more mentally stimulating to me. You know,

791
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Speaker 7: it's really.

792
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Speaker 1: Easy taking the high intellectual ground.

793
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Speaker 7: It's me against myself. I mean I have a really

794
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 7: you know, really nice rifle and I mean.

795
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Speaker 1: Ruffle after you. Cliff is playing golf, the rest of

796
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: he's playing chess.

797
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really uh. I mean it's days that I

798
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 7: don't have any luck. I mean I've gone out there

799
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Speaker 7: and got skunked. I mean, and it's just kind of say,

800
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 7: really mentally stimulating, uh effort for me, just me against myself.

801
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 7: I enjoyed the rifle more so than that.

802
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: Okay, what if you're using dogs? Do you dog that much?

803
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Speaker 7: I go and I have had dogs over the years.

804
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Speaker 1: Uh here different?

805
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 7: Oh no, I love it. I mean it's more.

806
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying for the twenty two verses.

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Speaker 5: I do like to have both.

808
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: I do like to have both.

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00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 7: You like you said that that shotgun is like the kicker,

810
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 7: you know, if it gets past all of us, Yeah,

811
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 7: don't let him get past you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yah. So with that, how do they

813
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Speaker 1: do it down in Mississippi.

814
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 4: Boat you see both?

815
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Speaker 2: You know, most of you're gonna see kids with shotguns,

816
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: and you know some of the adults will take them,

817
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Speaker 2: but most of the time you're gonna have somebody with

818
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Speaker 2: twenty two.

819
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And what I what I have seen here lately is

821
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Speaker 2: usually once somebody's got a thermal too, so you.

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Speaker 6: Can see if that ship squirrels up in there, not

823
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 6: on the rifle.

824
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Speaker 2: Usually they're just hadelts just to try to figure out

825
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: where he is and then give the guy with the

826
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Speaker 2: rifle a shot. And then the shotgun guy is a

827
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Speaker 2: clean up man.

828
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Speaker 3: When I get part to me, shot.

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Speaker 1: Doctor, We'll let Joe have shot Joe, shot man.

830
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Speaker 5: I tell you what, one day, when I get a

831
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 5: YouTube channel like you boys, I'll get me one of

832
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 5: the thermal squirrel hunters too. But uh, you know, an

833
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 5: old eight seventy like we growed up with. That gun

834
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 5: was designed to shoot any small game you could imagine.

835
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Speaker 5: And I'll fess up and say a shotgun was a

836
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: good way. It's a meat stick, man, it throws meat

837
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Speaker 5: inside there. But like Clifton said it, if you're going

838
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 5: out to enjoy the hunt, twenty two is the way

839
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 5: to go. In my opinion.

840
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: It conserves the meat too.

841
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Speaker 6: Though you're not going to damage that.

842
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Squirrels, right, Yeah, you're right. It does conserve me. You

843
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: don't bring any home.

844
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Speaker 4: Conserve Swiss. Okay.

845
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: Now here's the like if we were all like, if

846
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Speaker 1: there was an organization that was the twenty two squirrel

847
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: purest organization, this guy would probably be the president. Clifton

848
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: would be maybe vice president. Give me a run for

849
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: money for president. You're you're a square twenty two man, yes,

850
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: like without question. Well, it's like a it's like a

851
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: moral issue for you.

852
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: It's I'm a Kentucky, I'm a rifleman. I'm a Kentuckian. Okay, Okay,

853
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: I got my long riffle thirty two caliber. But back

854
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: when I was a killer in my young running in

855
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: gun to days, I had a twenty two magnum over

856
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: a twenty gauge. Hmmm, nothing escaped me. Nothing. So if

857
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 3: I couldn't get it with a magnum, if it was running,

858
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: I could get it with a shotgun. Killed quail flying

859
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: with a shotgun. So that was the all purpose. But

860
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: to me is like said, you know, if you're a

861
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 3: dog hunter, you got a couple of people with rifle,

862
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: you give them a chance, and then the shotgun guys,

863
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: he's got all the pressure on him. Because as my

864
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: friend Steve Ranella when I told him took him squirrel

865
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: hunting the first time. I said, Ben, Steve, he's going

866
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: to come out of there like a like a BMX

867
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: missile out of this this nest there And he come

868
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: out and he run and he missedy. But I run

869
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: and squirrel at full steam. I've got waterfowl buddies. They

870
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: have trouble hitting them. It's hard to get them a

871
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: lot of times. What it is you're shooting them at

872
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: a limb and that and the limb is kind of

873
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: behind him. So you're only shooting. Yeah, you're shooting at

874
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: a little a third of that height this squirreld. So

875
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: here's a protest.

876
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly why the shotgun pro tip.

877
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: Here's the pro tip. You wait for that squirrel to

878
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: run out to the end of that limb, and right

879
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: as he gets ready to jump, he will stop mm hmm.

880
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: And so you know that, and then he jumps and

881
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: you shoot him in that air and you can shoot

882
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: the squirrel mm hmm.

883
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Pro tip.

884
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 4: It's a life hack. Control.

885
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 8: Well, my dad was buying my shelves. He would have

886
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 8: loved to have told me that along.

887
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 4: Come. That's right now.

888
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: Self control that it takes to actually pull that off.

889
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: That's like high level human psychology and discipline and training

890
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: to when you got a gun in your hand and

891
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: there's a squirrel running across a limb and you're waiting

892
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: for him to get to the end of the limb,

893
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: it bounces, Bob's he jumps, then you shoot.

894
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 8: That's high levels like old Damny Glover and leath the weapons.

895
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: But Jedi level is when you can do it by horseback.

896
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: And I've reached that level, I hear you, But yes,

897
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: twenty two but whatever works for you, you know, just

898
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: if he's up there. You know, I got a lot

899
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: of rabbit hut buddies and they all use big twelve

900
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: gages and they either miss them or mush them, because

901
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: when the rabbit's running, they miss, and when he's sitting still,

902
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: they go center mass on him. They don't hold up

903
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: to his ears or whatever. And do the same thing

904
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: with a squirrel. Don't center mass at squirrel. Put it

905
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: on its head. Know the pattern of your gun, what

906
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: it's gonna do at twenty yards, twenty five or fifteen,

907
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 3: and hold it on his head, hold off a little bit,

908
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: use some big shot. Number five is the best I

909
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: have found. That is what I used, Number five. If

910
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: I had one shotgun shell to go hunting with number

911
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: five shot?

912
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, could I say there's another there's another weapon, and

913
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 5: and they're getting better every year, and that's gonna be

914
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: your air rifles?

915
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: Oh gosh. Yeah.

916
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 5: And a lot of states have made an air rifle

917
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 5: small game help even big game, right, I mean, there's

918
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: big game caliber air rifles that you can go out

919
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 5: and hunt with. I think we're that way in Arkansas.

920
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: Now.

921
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 5: You could deer hunt with an air.

922
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: Rifle Kentucky's saying.

923
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 5: So they're making these air rifles that are as cheap

924
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 5: as anything you could use out in the field. They're

925
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 5: as accurate some of these air rifles were using. You you

926
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 5: get fifty sixty shots out of them before you got

927
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 5: to fill that tank. And so we had a couple

928
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 5: of those air rifle companies here umeer X. I know

929
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 5: they've been a part of your sponsorship. They make some

930
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 5: fine quality stuff, and you know it's a cheap way

931
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 5: to get it. Get into honey.

932
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 8: I've been using them, shooting coons out of trees with it.

933
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: Really.

934
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you think they're gonna make one called the Reeves.

935
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know. I'm not near it's jacks. I'm

936
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 8: not near the caliber at Clifton Is. But yeah, we

937
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 8: shoot coons out with it.

938
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 5: I was in Puerto Rico shooting in Puerto Rico squirrels,

939
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 5: you know.

940
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 6: That leather leather squirrels.

941
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I ain't going to start that cook off.

942
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: You're good, Yeah, I'm good.

943
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 5: You know, eating a couple of them all I needed.

944
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 5: They weren't that good man, No, they weren't they word.

945
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, here in hearing y'all talk about your your

946
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: doctrine on twenty two versus shotgun it I realize I'm

947
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: like still in that stage of my squirrel hunting journey

948
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: that where yeah, I'm playing checkers, you are playing chess

949
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: because me and my my, my Jedi Master Muleman, squirrel Man,

950
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: dog Man Michael Lanier. Oh yeah, we shoot them with

951
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: shotguns because we just want to bring them home.

952
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: Now.

953
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: It is we do live in a place it's tough

954
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: for squirrel hunting. I mean, like if you were if

955
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: you were just uh you know, grading uh territory of

956
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 1: the United States, like we do with white tailed deer

957
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: like Iowa and Kansas and the Great Plains, it's just

958
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: incredible deer hunting. And you know, deer hunting is tough

959
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: and here, here, and there, those arcs would be on

960
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: the tougher side of the places we just don't have.

961
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: The mountains just aren't as aren't as quite as productive.

962
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 6: Is that right?

963
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: From a management perspective, it is like the river bottoms

964
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: because the guys over in the river bottoms can just

965
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: kill the fire out of them. And what do you

966
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: think do you think it's just better squirrel hunters over there?

967
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

968
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 7: I think that you know all the soils. You know,

969
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 7: productivity is just better in the bottoms.

970
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: I thought he's gonna say way better over there.

971
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, and and and and the cavities, those old

972
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 7: grolth trees, you know, having better, better habitats, better habitat.

973
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: You are playing squirrel food plots over there and everything flying. Well,

974
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: my point being, we're just happy to We're trying to

975
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: bring every squirrel home that our dogs tree, and we

976
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: and we get going and we we don't care if

977
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: we get a few pellets.

978
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: I won't shame you for that. Well, you have the right, no,

979
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: but I mean you're exactly right, because a squirrel, you know,

980
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: you can't kill them out. You could have season all

981
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: year long. They're dependent on the mass crop and there

982
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: might be hard masks, which is the acorn crop, walnuts, whatever,

983
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: and then soft mass in the springtime. So they've got

984
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: to have those two types of mass crop to survive.

985
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: Springtime masks, the soft mulberry's, elum buds, maple buds, whatever

986
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: buds are out there. They eat some mushrooms. You know,

987
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: we had the had one of the largest locusts hatches

988
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: this year in Kentucky. So we're going to have probably

989
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: the biggest bumper crop of squirrels that I have seen

990
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: since they will eat locusts. I have not I have

991
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: not physically seen them do that, but I have skin

992
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: squirrels from locust years and we had mass fayres and

993
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: the squirrels were as fat as it's pregnant dog.

994
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: Squirrels will eat a squirrel.

995
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember you telling your story.

996
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 8: I was I was working at the capitol, the State

997
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 8: Capitol Police, and I was sitting in the parking lot

998
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 8: eating my lunch and it was it was squirrel left

999
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 8: over from supper the night before. And I was sitting

1000
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 8: there in this parking lot and the squirrels, you know, everywhere,

1001
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 8: especially all over the little rock. And I was sitting

1002
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 8: there eating and gnawing on this leg in the car

1003
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 8: had the winter roll down. Looking the gray squirrel walked

1004
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 8: just right up beside the car over there was a

1005
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 8: contry right there, and I thought, I'm gonna hit him

1006
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 8: in the head with this leg his bone. I threw

1007
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 8: it out there and I missed him, but he jumped

1008
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 8: back and he looked at it, and he picked it

1009
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 8: up and started gnawing on it and then run off

1010
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 8: with the leg and I.

1011
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: Thought, my gosh, that was horrible. Now have a nightmare

1012
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: just thinking about it.

1013
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 5: Hey, Clay, I could I ask a question of the

1014
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 5: two geniuses sitting around here?

1015
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: Ready? Yeah, go ahead. I hope his math.

1016
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 8: You know.

1017
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 5: One of the things, There was a time I was

1018
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 5: the president of Squirrels Unlimited. You remember that, Clifton.

1019
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, we're amongst royalty.

1020
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 5: Well you know I'm around royalty. But I'd get people

1021
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 5: to write to me all the time and ask about

1022
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: the squirrel migration.

1023
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: Oh, you know controversial.

1024
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: The great squirrel migration when they were dipping them. Oh

1025
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 5: he's stopping.

1026
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 3: It's not a migration.

1027
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 4: There you go.

1028
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: Lady Mask's question is Adrill Reeves.

1029
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 5: Have you heard about where there was so many squirrels

1030
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 5: crossing across in the Mississippi they were dipping that now,

1031
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 5: the squirrels out of the river.

1032
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 4: That's not the one I heard. I heard.

1033
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 8: It was my great grandfather. There was a team and

1034
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 8: a wagon going through the woods and they would have

1035
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 8: to stop the wagon for all the squirrels running across

1036
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 8: the river.

1037
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 5: So the great migration, there was a time, Kevin, Yes,

1038
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: there was.

1039
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 3: It's not a migration, Kevin.

1040
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 5: There was a time up in Pennsylvania where they were

1041
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 5: knocking down the corn fields.

1042
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I heard they were riding on the backs of American buffalo.

1043
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: These squirrels were knocking down.

1044
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 5: There was a bounty on the dang old squirrels. Now,

1045
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 5: what are you calling this?

1046
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: It's a dispersal because of migration. You go and you

1047
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: come back. They just say, getting it's Jedi level here

1048
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: between me and Clifton. He's a biologist and just a

1049
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: squirrel killer. But it's a dispersal and I have I

1050
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 3: have witnessed it in sixty eights, a.

1051
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: Lot of squirrels moving in the same direction.

1052
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: They're just they're just you've had a bumper cop crop

1053
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: of masks.

1054
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 5: You know what he wanted to say, and then that

1055
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 5: he wanted to say, they just migrate.

1056
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: Dispersal. I can't spell it, but somebody google it for me.

1057
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 5: It's a dispersed Missouri.

1058
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: It's just dispersal.

1059
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: Clifton does the science back this.

1060
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 7: You know, I've never seen it documented. I know it occurs.

1061
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 7: But when it says.

1062
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 5: He ain't reading what I'm reading, you're right, Joe.

1063
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: Joe was one hund percent right. Clifton needs to go

1064
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: and look at his cliff notes, because it is documented

1065
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: and at Kentucky at one time when you were sixteen

1066
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: years old, you had to kill so many squirrels.

1067
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: To be like a Kentuckyan.

1068
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was like a legal document there

1069
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 3: that they had to turn Colonel. They would they would

1070
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: like come through and devastate the corn crop. But like

1071
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: I said in sixty eight, oh squirrels would. That was

1072
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: probably the last big squirrel dispersal. Down in the Carolinas

1073
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: and the edge of Tennessee. They had a mass figure

1074
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: down there, and those squirrels came up into Kentucky through LBL.

1075
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: They would be crappie fishermen out in the lake and

1076
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: with a dip net dipping them up. My dad would go,

1077
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: I remember he would go squirrel hunting and come home.

1078
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: It's probably him in five or six guys hunting. He

1079
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 3: would have what I call a West Virginia doggley, where

1080
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: you take a sapling bended over and leave a limb

1081
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: cut like this right here, and then the main runner

1082
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: of the tree and you run them through the back

1083
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: of the squirrel leg. He'd come home and have like

1084
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: sixteen on there. He said. The dog would tree one

1085
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 3: squirrel and then maybe three or four two three would

1086
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 3: come running through on the ground and he would shoot

1087
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: ups just giving up. They were pushing, they were pushing up.

1088
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's documented, and I saw it and properly.

1089
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: Let me think I saw it on I twenty four

1090
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: going to Nashville. I was taking my son and one

1091
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: of his friends down there, and I started seeing all

1092
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: these squirrels ran over between Paducah in Nashville, and I

1093
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: counted like fifty squirrels on a four lane highway ran

1094
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 3: over and then went. I took my son from Paducah

1095
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 3: to Cincinnati to watch a ball game, and I counted

1096
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: one hundred and something squirrels run over. And I had

1097
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: friends that they said that had to take uh there

1098
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: was a barrier wall or something and they got choked

1099
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: in and they took a backo out there and scooped

1100
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 3: up the dense squirrels.

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00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 5: Wow, they call that a dispersal.

1102
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: I agree.

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00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: Hey, we need next year Clifton finding some literature on

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00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: this so that we can put the beargrey stamp of

1105
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: academic approval on this dispersal.

1106
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 7: I would love to see that, you know, with the

1107
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 7: contemporary tracking devices that we have now, That's that's what

1108
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 7: I mean, that it's squirrels. I haven't seen.

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00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: See here's I believe what you're saying.

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00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 3: It can't happen anymore. We don't have those huge fans

1111
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: of hardwood forest. It's not it's not gonna I mean,

1112
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: it could happen in like a little regional thing like

1113
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 3: I saw.

1114
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: I see.

1115
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 3: I mean, to many people have ever seen a squirrel

1116
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 3: run over on a four lane highway? You're seeing it.

1117
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you just don't see it, you know, you

1118
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 3: see all the other dick. Of course, they're not going

1119
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 3: to last long because something's going to scoop in and

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Speaker 3: pick them up.

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Speaker 1: But I see what you're saying, Like they would have

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00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: to be really wanting to cross a big you know,

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00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: a quarter stretch for a mile from open ground.

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00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, so we need bridges squirrels, I think you know,

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00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 9: there was a vision of this great squirrel migration, and

1126
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 9: I always put the will to beests and the crocodile

1127
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 9: into the deal.

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Speaker 5: And I just thought they were crossing the and the

1129
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 5: crocodiles would be there just eating them up like wilderbees.

1130
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 5: That's not what took place. But there is tons of

1131
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: literature over the year, regardless of what you call it.

1132
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 5: Of these squirrels pushing and fire could fire. It could

1133
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 5: be a big cause of it. It could be you know,

1134
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 5: a stand of forest burns down, there's nothing to eat.

1135
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 5: All the squirrels travel across.

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Speaker 1: You buy it, Malcolm.

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00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 6: I have never seen that.

1138
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 4: Mississippi nuts everything, and we've seen a lot.

1139
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 5: So, Hey, we're getting real close. We're gonna have to

1140
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 5: bail out this. We got to initiate the world change.

1141
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: Hey, it's uh, we've been going for an hour, so

1142
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: I told them that's what we would do. Uh, Malcolm,

1143
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: where can where can we watch all your barbecue stuff?

1144
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: It's how to bbq write on all the social channels

1145
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: and you can go to how to barbecue rite dot com.

1146
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 6: We've got a lot of stuff on the website too.

1147
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 8: But I got one of your brands last year from

1148
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 8: a from Thanksgiving Turkey.

1149
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 4: Oh I hope it turned out. Oh man, it's really good.

1150
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 6: Send me a text and I'll send you some more

1151
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 6: for this year.

1152
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: Oh you're on awesome, Joe. Anything. H When we're doing

1153
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: this next year, same time, same.

1154
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 5: Place, relatively close to the same time.

1155
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: Early September, it'll be here.

1156
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: It'll be about the same place. I guarantee that. And hey,

1157
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 5: you know, I've got a podcast called Cooking Up a Story. Yes,

1158
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 5: and uh, we tried to put faces on on people

1159
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 5: and and take a lot of pride in it.

1160
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

1161
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 5: And you've helped me a lot and that as well.

1162
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 5: So same time, same place. Next year, Kevin Murphy will

1163
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 5: have shorter hair. I imagine he won't be trying to

1164
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 5: look like a Viking.

1165
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shave it all soon as I get back

1166
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 3: from Iceland.

1167
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 5: I could promise you we're gonna bring at least a

1168
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 5: four time world champion squirrel skinner back.

1169
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: I hope he comes.

1170
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 7: Oh, you bet you. I'll be here, all right, I'll be.

1171
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: We'll be we'll be looking for some of that squirrel

1172
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: literature on the migration, all right, Uh, Brent, yes, sir,

1173
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: anything you gotta say.

1174
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 8: I am just so thankful that this this episode was

1175
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 8: not about the bearg Rease latest episode, because I hadn't

1176
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 8: had a chance to listen to it yet.

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00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh, Sterling hard Joe, Yeah, good, Sterling's getting the getting

1178
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: the short stick today. It's so sorry, Sterling because we

1179
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: had to do this. But yeah, it was a really

1180
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: neat episode. Sterling Hard. I actually just since Sterling Heart

1181
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: Sterling Hard. Joe's a Seminole filmmakers, remember the Seminole tribe

1182
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. Really successful filmmaker and uh. On the podcast,

1183
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: this would be the one thing I say about it.

1184
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: He talked about how his people and a lot of

1185
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: Indigenous Native American Native Americans in America, I really messed

1186
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: that up.

1187
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: That's really.

1188
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: They're terrified of owls, like in their culture, owls are

1189
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: a big deal. And so he talked about that for

1190
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: a long time on the podcast. And there's a there's

1191
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: a text Jermy to owl in this building over here,

1192
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: and I sent him a video. I said, Sterling, sorry, dude,

1193
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: and I showed him the owl and he blurred it

1194
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: out and sent it back to me. He blurred out

1195
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: the owl and sent me a video back and said, here,

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00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: I fixed it. Sterling is a great guy. Kevin, thanks man,

1197
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: thanks for being here, Thank everybody for being here, Thanks Joe,

1198
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: and thanks everybody for I hope y'all, hope y'all had

1199
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: a good time watching the Render. And Reva. Reva is

1200
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: the one that builds all the Bear Grease podcasts and

1201
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: this country life podcast. So she's actually the one like

1202
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: working with us on the addits, the music and everything.

1203
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: So she's as much a part of this as me

1204
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: and ow Will farm girl.

1205
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 8: Now living in Bozeman, and she is down here soaking

1206
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 8: up the Arkansas suncha.

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00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:11,959
Speaker 5: That's right.

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Reva.

1209
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Let's go crown the winter. Yeah, so I got one

1210
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: short blurb to put in. We're doing a small game

1211
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: boot camp again in Paduca, Kentucky. Be the first weekend

1212
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: in June. We cook rabbit, have fun. Everybody brings their

1213
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: hunting dog out, So look forward to see everybody maybe

1214
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: come out and join us with that. When I was

1215
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: in Mongolia, the owl was a sacred animal. I was

1216
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: over there, I said them, there's all these chicken feathers

1217
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: on your review mirror on the motorcycle, and they said,

1218
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 3: that's our sacred animal there, and then we hunted.

1219
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: An out when we were over hunted them.

1220
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: Yes, but thanks for being here. I really appreciate it

1221
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: all you guys, especially bringing your kids out and new people.

1222
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like it just charges me up

1223
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: to be down here long with all you Arkansas and

1224
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: so yeah, it's a great.

1225
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: Time, right, Thanks everybody. Let's go crown a world can

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01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: right

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Speaker 7: M hm.