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Speaker 1: Star in Friscol says, go and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback,

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Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a

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Speaker 1: frist Go. Glad you're with us. Everybody. Hope you had

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Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend, because we're about to make your Monday

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Speaker 1: a little bit better by talking some Cowboys. Is March Madness,

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Speaker 1: of course still around for a couple of days in

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Speaker 1: the basketball world, but the NFL free agency periods still

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Speaker 1: just heating up, it seems like around the Star, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some of the recent movers and

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Speaker 1: groovers in NFL free agency. Also going to talk about

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the Mike McCarthy press conference that

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Speaker 1: happened on Thursday. But first we gotta give a little

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Speaker 1: props because our very own Isaiah Standback has done some

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Speaker 1: of his homework this offseason and ink. And it's pretty obvious, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: because well, nobody predicted the Pac twelve domination in March

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Speaker 1: Madness on the basketball floor, but our very own Pac

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Speaker 1: twelve alumni has dominated our winners, losers and Cinderella segment

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Speaker 1: we had a couple weeks ago because Isaiah predicted Keonamel

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Speaker 1: to be signed, predicted Alden Smith to be moved on

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Speaker 1: from and then he's his Cinderella. His dream pick is

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Speaker 1: kJ Wright, who at the moment is still out there

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Speaker 1: and is also being rumored connected me with the Cowboys. Rob,

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Speaker 1: you're telling me so you're saying this chance, right, yep. Well,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah has done very well in that segment, much better

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Speaker 1: to the NFL offseason, so far, Isaiah got it right.

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Speaker 1: And really the reason for that, Rob, I think is

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Speaker 1: mostly because it's been very predictable. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: been It's I didn't chat with you guys last week,

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Speaker 1: but I mean it's been the first week and second

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Speaker 1: And fans don't like it. And I think fans are

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Speaker 1: week after the Neil signing and some of the other

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Speaker 1: moves they've made. But this is what they do. They

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Speaker 1: are not going to be active the first two three

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Speaker 1: days other than maybe resigning a couple of their own guys,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna look for opportunities, and this year in particular,

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Speaker 1: there might be more opportunities after the first week than

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Speaker 1: ever before because of the market so weird. And but

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Speaker 1: they're doing exactly what they've done for like the last

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Speaker 1: ten years. Guys. They're covering their bases. Not really anything

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Speaker 1: that's going to prevent them from addressing any position in

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Speaker 1: the draft. I don't think. I think they can still

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Speaker 1: go anywhere they want to go, but they're doing a

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Speaker 1: pretty good job of trying to cover some bases on defense.

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Speaker 1: I like what they've done, particularly in the last week

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Speaker 1: or so. Beckma so so. Robbie's saying, slow and steady

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Speaker 1: wins the race. And we hadn't made any splash signings,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what everybody's looking for, that one

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Speaker 1: or two splash signings. And you know, Isaiah did get

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Speaker 1: it right with kJ Wright being rumored to be affiliated

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Speaker 1: never thought than a million years if we'd see that

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright combo break up. But man,

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Speaker 1: if we are able to land the guy like that,

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Speaker 1: just off season alone hadn't been a lot of splashing guys,

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate you guys giving me a credit. I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to make up for my predictions this season. Um,

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Speaker 1: They got some guys that are hungry um at this

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Speaker 1: especially when you can get veterans to compete. Right. It's

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Speaker 1: one thing to get young guys to compete, but getting

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Speaker 1: Now we have Kazy and Curse gonna be competing, right

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Speaker 1: other signing that I'm completely blanking on his name from Detroit. Yeah, curse, curse.

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting them in at a category with you know,

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Speaker 1: And you could tell dan Quinn has already come in

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Speaker 1: not gonna go into Michcarthy's interview. But still you know

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Speaker 1: now you're he's literally taking him and put it into

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Speaker 1: the players. And you will see that represented in every

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Speaker 1: single successful organization in this league. And if you can

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Speaker 1: find one that doesn't embody their coach, show it to me. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, And I think that can't be

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Speaker 1: understated enough the influence that a coach a coordinator has

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Speaker 1: on this group of guys. But if you have a

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Speaker 1: bunch of tomato cans out there, you can try and

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Speaker 1: coach him up as much as you want. They run

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Speaker 1: up against Yeah, that's gonna handle defense. That's what happened

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Speaker 1: to them in a lot of situations where teams were

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Speaker 1: just running it right at us and we didn't have

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Speaker 1: the talent level to compete. Whether it be done Pole

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Speaker 1: or other disagree, suspect, Well, I disagree. Check, I disagree,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a talent thing. It's not

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Speaker 1: a talented These guys are the one percent of the

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Speaker 1: one percent of Heck, that's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a one two. Paul did not want to play.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Pole did not want to play. Could

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Speaker 1: he play? Hey, yeah, it's a light switch. He didn't

447
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Speaker 1: want to play. You know why because he mentally, I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming I don't know the man. I'm assuming in his head. Look,

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Speaker 1: I hate this environment. I'm just gonna call a spade

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Speaker 1: a spade. I hate this environment. This check is coming

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Speaker 1: whether I go one hundred miles per hour or I

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Speaker 1: don't go hundred miles power because guess what, I'm a

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Speaker 1: veteran and I'm like, this is guaranteed. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get this check regardless. So if I'm not, I'm just

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Speaker 1: telling you, sir, I'm telling you a certain people's mindsets. Heck,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a second. And he didn't deserve to

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Speaker 1: be in the league anyway to be a part of

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Speaker 1: that one percent off what he What you're saying is,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get this check. I can get paid

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Speaker 1: and go back to the house, saying you're putting out

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Speaker 1: bad You're putting out bad tape. And so for guys

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Speaker 1: that are free agents on these that went to other places,

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Speaker 1: they had no tape to talk about to dictate the

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Speaker 1: terms with new teams because they sucked, right, And I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, if you had that kind of year, and

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Speaker 1: you expect to get paid handsomely for your services, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to put it on tape. And we had

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Speaker 1: a guys that are not putting it on tape. Whether

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Speaker 1: that's talent or whether that's coaching, all those things can

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Speaker 1: be dissected, but I think they go hand in hand. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to jump ahead because Kyle's gonna

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Speaker 1: slap me. But Xavier Woods is he does he like

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Speaker 1: Let's see. I didn't say that because that's what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about it, But does he like telling in some aspects, yes,

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Speaker 1: because somebody else wants them for what not for a

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Speaker 1: lot to play the same position he was playing here.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't somebody wants That's not what I'm saying. What

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is Xavier was if he had balled out

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Speaker 1: and put it on tape and all of that was there,

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Speaker 1: his turns would have been different in free agent. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. I do not disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: But but what I'm saying is guys will put out

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Speaker 1: what they're willing to put out, and if they have

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Speaker 1: somebody who they want to play for, you're going to

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Speaker 1: get better production out of that. I agree, that's that's facts.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think y'all are both right because I

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Speaker 1: think I think it comes it comes down to player execution. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: I do think because a lot of people said, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is the same defense that was middle of the

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Speaker 1: pack the year before. So what happened. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: they missed Malie Collins last year. I think they miss

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Speaker 1: Jeff Heath at safety last year. I think they missed

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Speaker 1: Byron Jones at cornerback last year. They didn't replace the

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Speaker 1: guys they lost. They didn't replace them well enough last year.

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Speaker 1: By the same token, though, like Isaiah's talking about culture

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Speaker 1: and and what the defensive coordinator can can instill in

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Speaker 1: you wanting to play for him, a confidence level, I

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Speaker 1: think something was missing last year installing this thing in

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Speaker 1: the virtual side things. Mike said it last week in

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Speaker 1: the car, in the in the press conference, we got

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Speaker 1: to do better in terms of our virtual component of things.

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Speaker 1: They they didn't. They didn't reach a point defensively where

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Speaker 1: guys were confident and fat playing fast now free and

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Speaker 1: confident until late in the season. And so that that

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Speaker 1: goes on coaching too, in terms of communicating a system

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Speaker 1: and putting guys in the right spot. That's where dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn comes in. But you gotta have players too. I

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Speaker 1: think I think it's so rob if these guys, if

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Speaker 1: these guys are these guys that were on our roster

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Speaker 1: this year, heck right, if they come out and ball

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Speaker 1: out this year just all of a sudden, these guys

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Speaker 1: just we got eight all pro guys on this side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. Were they that less talented this previous season? No? No,

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Speaker 1: I think it's an understanding of the scheme and what

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Speaker 1: your responsibilities are in it, and you can play fast

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Speaker 1: and what I think and you know that too because

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Speaker 1: you have player Yeah, you know the hesitant, the hesitancy

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Speaker 1: and the scheme and the game plan going up to

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Speaker 1: each week. Guys have to be confident and what the

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Speaker 1: what the system is? Asked? Absolutely, and if last year

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Speaker 1: I guys never had an understanding of that, us finishing

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Speaker 1: last what's a by product of not understanding. But that's

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Speaker 1: not talent, No no, But when you turn on the

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Speaker 1: tape and you see your one tech getting pushed yards

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Speaker 1: down the field, that was a choice. Hey man, let

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Speaker 1: me ask you this. Do you think that pole is

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Speaker 1: gonna keep playing this year, or you think he's ready

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Speaker 1: to wrap it up, he's rap. It should be a rap,

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. He was good. He got past that first game,

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Speaker 1: he said, check mark, money's coming. I'm done. Look no

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Speaker 1: more guys like that then. So that's that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So it's not it's not a talent thing. It's what

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Speaker 1: can you get out of that player. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying is it's not talent. Everything that you just labeled

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Speaker 1: was all about understanding the scheme, confidence, right, being able

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Speaker 1: to play fast. Those things have nothing to do with talent,

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Speaker 1: all right. You get to be lasting the NFL on

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Speaker 1: defense for a reason. Yes, And and that's why I

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Speaker 1: agree with Rob and I think it is a combination

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Speaker 1: of the two. You can't have one without the other. However, everybody,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep this conversation going, but we're gonna throw

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Speaker 1: in the recent news with Xavier Woods signing elsewhere. There

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Speaker 1: wow Wow. Well, uh, let's talk about some more Cowboys

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Speaker 1: free agency. Let's go ahead and move on. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: about exactly what you guys mentioned and what Isaiah of

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Speaker 1: course looked ahead to. And that's Xavier Wood signing a

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Speaker 1: of course left and signed with Philadelphia. Will Xavier Woods

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Speaker 1: be missed in this defense? That's my biggest question, because

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys already kind of went back and

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Speaker 1: the money's come out yet, right, Rob, No money yet

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Speaker 1: on Uh you know what I just saw a tweet about.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just over a million bucks, like one

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Speaker 1: point one one point two, um, like a nine hundred

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Speaker 1: that's a lot chamber back in the second wave. What'd

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Speaker 1: he get? Did we see from Minnesota? One year two

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Speaker 1: and change for yeah, for for Woods. Now will he

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Speaker 1: be missed though, Rob? Will he be missed? I mean

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Speaker 1: if Casey because he can do what what the Xavier

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Speaker 1: Buried Church, we can and go down the list, um

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Speaker 1: Greg Ellis, But that's got to be proven, you know,

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Speaker 1: if he can come out and again, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: He can be that single high guy, keep things in

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00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: another element that maybe the Cowboys can build off of that.

639
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Xavier a lot of times ball's coming right at him,

640
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: he didn't catch it, and so maybe there's a difference there.

641
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: It's never a good thing. Whatever. You have to repeat

642
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 1: the question miss him? You say you said that gonna missim. Wait,

643
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: hold on, they're gonna miss him? Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

644
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't let the heck around this one up. Yeah No,

645
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think we're gonna miss him.

646
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys miss him. I think that um,

647
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: I think that they replaced him with competitive, hungry veterans

648
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: and uh for that for that alone. Um, and you

649
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: can take his one quote that he had. Um, I

650
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: think that we that we that we have an upgrade

651
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: in terms at least if anything else mentality. So are

652
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: we gonna miss him? Um? First of all, I just

653
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: want to wish him well and relations on signing with

654
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. And we play the Vikings this year.

655
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna wish him well now because I won't

656
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: be wishing him well in a few months. Uh. But

657
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, coming from Louisiana Tech,

658
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: there was some expectations for for Woods, I think you know,

659
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: for us and just safety being an issue for the

660
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys for so very long that expectation or potential

661
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: was never realized. He never took the next step. He

662
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: did some special things and special teams. He also, obviously

663
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm hearing great teammate in locker room guy. But again,

664
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: there was so much there that he left on the

665
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: field just bad angles, bad playing. Like Rob said, ball

666
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: coming right at you and blue blue blue, you know,

667
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: just not here for to make a play. And you know,

668
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: because he and just you talk about his twenty eighteen

669
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: form and him being able to get seven interceptions. I mean,

670
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: we hadn't had that and a very very long time

671
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: a guy, a safety with or any dB with seven interceptions.

672
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: So I just think, you know that is that is uh,

673
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: that gives him one a leg up on any of

674
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: the guys that we have on the back end. But

675
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: look for our secondary with dan Quinn, he is he

676
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: is trying to turn mud to marble and he has

677
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: a huge undertaking at the safety position cornerbacks as well.

678
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 1: And you know that the Cowboys are going to steal

679
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: going to the draft, and you say we're too deep

680
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: right now, and say, I think we may be three

681
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: deep after the draft because there's gonna be competition all

682
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: around and we have to get better at the back half,

683
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: especially if we're going to be playing with that you

684
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: know center fielder as Dad Quinn likes to play with.

685
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: So you know, either way, I think you know, again,

686
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: I wish Xavier Woods well, but no, won't be missed

687
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: around here, Isaiah, break it down for me here whenever

688
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: it comes to the cover three defense, that single high

689
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: look that we're going to see a lot from dan

690
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: Quinn's system, or at least what we anticipate to see

691
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: a lot because he fits better than Xavier Woods because

692
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: of blank What is that missing piece that Cauzee has

693
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: that Xavier Woods didn't, Because I mean, the money ends

694
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: up being cheaper, which is fine. I thought it would

695
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: probably be right around the same for those two. So

696
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: why was Kaze the guy they went and got, even

697
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: though I know the money was a little cheaper as well, well,

698
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: discount double check. First of all, right, I mean, well

699
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: that's why i'm syscount. I mean everything, take the money

700
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: out of it, I won't know why the player was

701
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: chosen for sure. Yeah, so you talk about somebody. First

702
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: of all, one of the things that we all keep

703
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: coming back to in terms of our our defense's ability

704
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: to perform or lack thereof last year was familiarity, right, Um,

705
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: So you got a guy who comes right into the system, confident,

706
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: already boom, handclap, just right off the back, confident, right,

707
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: already already a hand up on what we had last year.

708
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: So then you take them to the fact that he's hungry, right,

709
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: you got injuries and all these things, and then you

710
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: got another aspect that he knows how to find the

711
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: ball right when you pull up his highlights. You know,

712
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: if there's a tip ball. Right, if a defensive back,

713
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: cornerback makes a great play chips the ball. Listen up,

714
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: that's not just gonna hit the ground. If it does

715
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: hit the ground, is gonna hit the ground after it

716
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: hits his hands him trying to get an interception. So

717
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: as you already heard of Heck saying like he's a

718
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: ball hawk, he wants to try to get the ball.

719
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: And that's what you need when you have that sit

720
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: or fielder. You need somebody who has range. You need

721
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: somebody who has awareness, and you need somebody who wants

722
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: to go get the dog on ball when it presents itself.

723
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: And that those are all things that I don't think.

724
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Xavier had a little bit of range, but

725
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: that was about it, right, So this is that is

726
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: the reason why they went out there and got Kazi

727
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: versus versus versus Woods. The one thing I'll say about

728
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Xavier is he did have some some good moments, some

729
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: good games here. I thought I thought last year. I

730
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: thought last year he kind of played out of position. Honestly,

731
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they had him in the box probably the

732
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: most that he's ever been in his career. Because you

733
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: know you're you're only playing two linebackers and you're in

734
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: a lot of sub package work, and I don't know

735
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: if that's the best thing for him. I think he's

736
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: a you know, he's a center fielder free safety type,

737
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: that's what because he is probably going to be here

738
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: if he wins the job. So again, it kind of

739
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: goes back to what we talked about first segment. Are

740
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: you putting your players in the best positions to be successful?

741
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if they did that

742
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: with Woods last year. Yeah, And as everybody's trying to

743
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: get an understanding as to how important it is Kyle

744
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: that center fielder, right, that free safety in a dan

745
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Quinn scheme is that much more important because there's only

746
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: three guys that are responsible for getting deep right, if

747
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: a ball is thrown deeper than than twelve yards, there's

748
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: only three guys on that field that are responsible for

749
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: getting to that ball. You got your right corner, to

750
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: your left corner, and your free safety right. That's it.

751
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: So when you talk about defending the whole back half

752
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: of the field, that guy is responsible for literally a

753
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: third of the field. And you know, when you have

754
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: that scheme, there's eight guys underneath cover three scheme, there

755
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: are literally eight defenders underneath. So pretty much dan Quinn's

756
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: coming in and saying, you're not gonna run the ball,

757
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: You're not gonna throw any of these little short routes.

758
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to you before you have time to

759
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: drop back and throw the ball and actually threaten our

760
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: three guys that we have deep, our defensive ends are

761
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna get to you. Our linebackers are gonna get to

762
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: you before you have time to sit back there and

763
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: have the time to throw. So if you do make

764
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: that throw right, that ill advised throw of that risky throw,

765
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: then I have a guy back there that can go

766
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: catch the ball and make you pay for it. Yeah,

767
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's ideal. I think that's what you

768
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator, that's what you want your guys

769
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: to do. But if we put on the twenty twenty

770
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: tape and we look at our safeties, there are a

771
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: lot of times our guys were staring in the backfield

772
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: and all they had was past protection, you know, and

773
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: the ball goes right over their heads. So there was

774
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: a lot of bad reads of our safeties last year,

775
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: whether that's you know, playing out a position or just

776
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: not being very sound in the scheme. Those two things

777
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: cost us a lot. And I think with you know,

778
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: because he his range, as you pointed out, Isaiah, is

779
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: very important. He is ranging and his ability to go

780
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: be patient back there as a cine fielder and read

781
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: and react and and I guess reading and reacting achillings

782
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: injury don't go together quite as well. So hopefully he's

783
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: healed up. And obviously he's healed up, or I'll they

784
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't have signed him. So those are just things that

785
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: I think that he brings to the plate for the Cowboys.

786
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: And don't expect there to not be those blown plays

787
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: because even with that that system and even with the

788
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: like you said, the three people that are three players

789
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: that are are assigned to that deep part of the field,

790
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: there's gonna be lapses and it's gonna happen, especially whenever

791
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: you have a player like Cazee who goes for the

792
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: ball and his aggressive enough to try and go and

793
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: force a turnover. He'll get some. I don't know if

794
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: he'll get seven. That expectations should not be seven interceptions

795
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: by any means. That's a great number to look back

796
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: at twenty eighteen. But if you think you're gonna get

797
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: seven interceptions, You're purely mistaken, and he's gonna give up

798
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: big plays now and again. But it's something that I

799
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: think you could look at as a defense you might

800
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: have upgraded. I hope it isn't upgrade because last year

801
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: I thought Xavier Woods, and I said it on this

802
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: show multiple times, I thought Xavier Woods was going to

803
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: take the next step. I was wrong. He didn't take

804
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: him the next step. If anything, he took a step backwards.

805
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: And that's why Minnesota signed him for much cheaper than

806
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: I think his initial deal would have been if he

807
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: would have actually taken that next step. Now, I do

808
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: want to ask this before we get into the draft

809
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: moves that happened. We may have to push that to

810
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: the third segment, but really quickly here, does the lack

811
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: of adding a corner speak volumes for this Cowboys defense

812
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: right now? Because there is a huge glaring hole on

813
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: that defense and it's called the cornerback spot. Does that

814
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of give away and show the hand of the

815
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys as they lead into the final month leading into

816
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: that NFL draft, because well, heck, but they need a

817
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: corner and they don't have any at all. So you're

818
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 1: saying that they may need one just Sam Man, I think, yeah,

819
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: thank you for you just walk me right into that one.

820
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: I thank you, though, but no, I think, you know,

821
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: I think corner is important for this team. But I

822
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: pulled back from that too. I think there's still a

823
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 1: need at a one technique. I believe that we still

824
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: need to get better interior wise. And Isaiah's bought this

825
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: up and we've said this a few times on the show,

826
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: is that you know, if you can improve in your interior,

827
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: guys don't have to hold so long on the outside.

828
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: So what do you do? Do you put the egg

829
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: before the chicken or the high over that saying whatever, terrible,

830
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do, you gotta you gotta get your parties.

831
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: You gotta get your parties in line. Where is that

832
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: going to be. Is it gonna be fixing uh, your interior,

833
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: your line or is it gonna be putting lipstick on

834
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: a pig and fixing what you got on that? Really?

835
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: You got that farm analogy right? Who couldn't you get

836
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: the first one of correct? I'm a city I'm a

837
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: city boyhouse that's all right, I'm I mean plays making stakes.

838
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: I just made it with a smile on my face.

839
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: What it's the best way to do it, right, Robber,

840
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: They are they showing their hand before the draft of

841
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: who they're looking at it ten If they don't, if

842
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: they don't do anything in the next couple of weeks,

843
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: then yeah, probably, I mean and look, I mean it

844
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: could break their way where they might have their pick

845
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: of a couple of different corners right in the first

846
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: round if it works out for them. Um, there's some

847
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: veteran corners still out there. I mean, you know, and

848
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: again though, it comes down to what their cap looks like,

849
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: what you know, what guys are looking for, and what's

850
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: the name? Rob Oh, I'm just I'm just looking at names.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what Richard Sherman's still out there, They were

852
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Speaker 1: still out there. I'm just talking about talking about veteran

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Speaker 1: veteran guys. But um, I mean, you resigned Jordan Lewis

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857
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Speaker 1: what they you mentioned, corner is a big hole. Do

858
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: they need another linebacker like Neil can play linebacker? And

859
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: they're talking about him starting off a linebacker week side linebacker.

860
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: He's two hundred and fifteen pounds. Is he going to

861
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: be exclusively a linebacker? Or do you need to find

862
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: somebody else you lost Joe Thomas. We'll see what happens

863
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: with Sean Lee. I'm looking at Isaiah's a free agent

864
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: list and it's very interesting to me. You know, so, um,

865
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, is kJ right of possibility or are they

866
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: looking at the draft potentially for for that spot as well?

867
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: They've they've got other needs potentially too. What do they

868
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: do a backup quarterback? I don't think they need to

869
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,320
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870
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: how much space they have to really work with at

871
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: the moment. It's a good point. And Michael Parsons ran

872
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Speaker 1: a four to three. Yeah he did. There's another one.

873
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: There's another. I don't stop it. Yeah, let's not let's

874
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Speaker 1: not go into that. Let's go into the draft talk though.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and step aside when we come

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Speaker 1: I threw myself off the whole time. I mean like

926
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Speaker 1: I threw a chage up to you guys to try

927
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Speaker 1: and throw you off and keep you on your toes,

928
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Speaker 1: and it messed me up. Anyways, the entire NFL draft

929
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Speaker 1: order was thrown a curveball on Friday, to say the least.

930
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Speaker 1: As well, there was some shifting and some moving, as

931
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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers trade up to number

932
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Speaker 1: three with the Dolphins and they give up a haul

933
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Speaker 1: to do so, moving up from twelve. The Dolphins then

934
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Speaker 1: moved back to twelve or excuse me up, yes, that's

935
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Speaker 1: what it was. Back to twelve. Then the Dolphins traded

936
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Speaker 1: up with the Eagles to go back to six, where

937
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles now are picking at twelve, and the Eagles

938
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: apparently wanted to go up and go get Zach Wilson.

939
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: They said, we wanted to move up to three, but

940
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: it was only for Zach Wilson. So it looks like

941
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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's not going to be on the board at three,

942
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: or at least Philadelphia doesn't think so. So my question

943
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: to you guys is now that the Cowboys pick in

944
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: front of both the Giants and the Eagles, and then

945
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: I guess we could throw Washington in there as well.

946
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: They're a little bit further back at nineteenth. But how

947
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: big of an advantage does this give Dallas the fact

948
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: that well they're now picking first and picking before anybody

949
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: in the division, at least in this first round. Yeah,

950
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I don't know so much about

951
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: picking in front of the division, but now it pretty

952
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: much assures four quarterbacks in the top in the top nine,

953
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: probably Kyle, Yeah, is that we're looking at. I mean,

954
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: maybe you know who's being mocked now in the top

955
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: three besides Trevor and besides Zach Wilson. Is it mac Jones?

956
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: Is it Fields? Would it's probably either Trey Lance or

957
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: Justin Fields at three? Okay, oh, Lance too, I've seen,

958
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: but I've seen Mac CBS had a mock of Mac

959
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: Jones at number three today, so I don't know about that.

960
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: That seems kind of high. But but again, that to me,

961
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: that's just like I never want to hear again that

962
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: this is this is kind of a weak quarterback class,

963
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, because because we're hearing about that like for

964
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: next year, and and just don't buy the hype man

965
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: because teams it's too important a position. Teams are gonna

966
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: fall in love with guys and they're gonna go in

967
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: the top five, top ten. And that's good for the

968
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys in terms of just keep pushing defensive players down

969
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: to them, whether it's a cornerback, whether it's I mean,

970
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: heck heck mentioned a linebacker. Whoever, that is good because

971
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: that's got to be the top top writer in my opinion.

972
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: You could talk offensive tackle maybe, but they're they very

973
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: well may have their pick of their top cornerback that

974
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: they might want, which would be huge. And I mean

975
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: we've mentioned last week on the show, Hrob, you weren't here,

976
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: but we were talking about Denver in the fact that

977
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: they signed a couple of veteran corners. Maybe they don't

978
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: go after a corner at nine, and so that way

979
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: you do get your pick of either Patrick's or Tan

980
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: or jac Horn or even Caleb Parley still if you

981
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: still want to throw his name into the mix. But

982
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: I think all over, like Friday's moves, the biggest question was, now,

983
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: all right, Miami's not gonna take a quarterback. But that's

984
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: good for the Cowboys. They're probably gonna take an offensive player.

985
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: Of course, the first three picks are all going to

986
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: be quarterbacks. Maybe the fourth pick with Atlanta. You're right,

987
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: everybody in front of the Cowboys is pushing these defensive

988
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: players down the board, and I think these moves helped

989
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: that out. Heck Bunn and I think it's something that

990
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could certainly benefit from. Plus I put this

991
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: out on Twitter the other day, Kyle Pitts may not

992
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: be in the division anymore, and Jamar Chase might not

993
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: be in the division anymore. Yes, and that was my

994
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: worry looking at six of who they may have chosen,

995
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: and just knowing that Kyle Pitts may end up being

996
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: the nfcast. But I think, you know, obviously every draft

997
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: has his shake up, and there's a player that no

998
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: one's thinking that will be in the top five. That

999
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: will be and that may be Kyle Pitts. And so

1000
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: it really is intriguing to look at Zack Wilson and

1001
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: the way that he's ascended on everyone's draft board in

1002
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: the COVID year where he is, and a guy that

1003
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: is beating a lot of teams, big name teams that

1004
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: have been out there, and how some of these other

1005
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: guys like Justin Fields has kind of fallen. So really

1006
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: intriguing to see where that whole top five thing goes.

1007
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: But for us, you know, I'm not going with you know, BPA,

1008
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: As Rob would say, we gotta get we gotta get

1009
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: some defensive help. It's there unless you get a if

1010
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: there's just a guy there, it's just culture, generational changing

1011
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: talent there at ten. And that'd be the only way

1012
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: that I would take an offensive guy. So I'm looking

1013
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: at Pat Satan, he could be one. But also man

1014
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons running at four three. That changed my mind

1015
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: by him Za, yep, that's Zach Roll is going with this. Heck,

1016
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: I know we need a corner. I know we need

1017
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: a corner. However, Michael Parsons pops up in your lap.

1018
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: That's a physical specimen. So yeah, I think, yeah, if me,

1019
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: yeah me, I'm gonna go give me some Michael Parsons.

1020
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: And I'm sure up that front seven because you are

1021
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: in the NFC East, So our understanding that and understanding

1022
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: where you need to be solid at. And again, who

1023
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: almost said a bad word, A nasty front seven, Let's

1024
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: keep it that way at nasty front seven can can

1025
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: beat a good secondary any day. A nasty front seven

1026
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: is better than a good secondary any day in this league.

1027
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: So you get to the quarterback, he doesn't have a

1028
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: chance to throw the ball, Da boom, there you go.

1029
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: So I think us being in the position that we're

1030
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: in now in terms of the NFC East, we're in

1031
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: a great position because, like you guys already hit on,

1032
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about anybody trying to grab

1033
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: some players that we're interested in, and we get to

1034
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: dictate the moves that they didn't have to make. And

1035
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: it's always, it's always always good to be in that position.

1036
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: So what you don't what don't you agree with Kyle

1037
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: the shelf life of a linebacker. I don't know if

1038
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is as good as a player. I'm scared

1039
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: about the opt out year. I don't like the off

1040
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: the field issues that he's had in the past. There's

1041
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff I don't like about Michael Parsons

1042
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: going at ten. Now, if he falls and you trade back, sure,

1043
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean late teens. If you're trading backwards and you

1044
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: want to give up ten, I would take him in

1045
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: the late teens, not a ten. And the shelf life

1046
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: of a linebacker in this league right now, we're seeing

1047
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: it a year in, year out. It started with Sean Lee,

1048
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 1: It's moved on to Laton vander Esh, even jayaln Smith

1049
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: a little bit here and there. The shelf life in

1050
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: a top ten pick, it's not worth it for even

1051
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: a guy that is a generational type of athlete, athlete.

1052
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: Let me throw that out there. I didn't say a

1053
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: player at that. Michael Parsons is yes, Isaiah cuts your

1054
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: question all right? Coming out of this right? I asked,

1055
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: is all you guys, I know we gotta get going.

1056
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: You get certain? All right? Yeah? You get him? Do

1057
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: you say, oh, hey, we're about to be nasty. I

1058
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that with Parsons. I wouldn't say that with

1059
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: Parsons either. No, No, I wouldn't say that. You're you're

1060
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: telling me that a rookie linebacker who you're gonna replace

1061
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: with a guy you also drafted in the first round

1062
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: two years ago, is gonna all of a sudden make

1063
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: your front seven that was one of the worst in

1064
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: the NFL automatically nasty talking about I'm talking about your

1065
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: your Wow. Rob talked to him, Why is he getting

1066
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: mocked at high? Then? Because he's a good fight all

1067
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: the question, and he's very talented. He's a talented player.

1068
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: But I think there are too many question marks at ten.

1069
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: And I mean people are gonna mock linebackers high because

1070
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: they're the best linebacker. He's the best linebacker on my board.

1071
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that he's above j ok. He's a

1072
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: better linebacker than anybody else in this draft class. I

1073
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: don't like drafting linebackers in the top ten. That's my things.

1074
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: A different scenario. No, it's a championship team. That's where

1075
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: you want to go, and that's where you want to be,

1076
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: And so you look around the league, especially when everybody's

1077
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: running this RPO, you have to have linebackers that can

1078
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: turn and run and that that costs us a lot

1079
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: of the time. In the comparison between Jalen and Michael Parsons,

1080
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: it has been fair. But I think as far as

1081
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: the ball ability, his ability to get to just apply

1082
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: pressure alone would be game changing for the Dallas Cowboys

1083
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: where he can go from Sam to Will and give

1084
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: you that size that you need. And he's a playmaker. Man,

1085
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: there's no other way around him. You can't say just

1086
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: because oh he's a linebacker, you don't want to go

1087
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: that that go that high on the guy. I'm talking

1088
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: about ability and his what he can do as far

1089
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: as changing he's got the game and like you said, Isaiah, Isaiah,

1090
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: like you said, dictating to the offense and not having

1091
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: the offense dictate to you. Absolutely seeing what that's been about,

1092
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: and that's why we have been punished on defense. When

1093
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: you get a difference maker like Michael Parsons, he can

1094
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: change the game from interior, not from the outside. You

1095
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: have Trey Von Diggs and then there's still a lot

1096
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: of guys out there, and there's still cornerbacks that you

1097
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: can get later in in later rounds as well. So

1098
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: come on, man, there's there's a lot. It takes it

1099
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: takes more. It takes more for a cornerback to be

1100
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: productive in this league than it does for a linebacker. Yes,

1101
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: but also corners can do it for a lot longer

1102
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: than linebackers can. But do you lie? Waw No, do

1103
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: you have time to wait? As a cowboy, as a

1104
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, do you have time to wait? You can solidify,

1105
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: not solidified. You can come very compared. You can improve

1106
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: your secondary. You can improve your secondary immediately. Patrick's tim

1107
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: and coming into the league would be an automatic better.

1108
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: He would be the best corner on your team right now.

1109
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: I'll say that one. He's better than Trayvon Dicks. We

1110
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: saw that because guess what, they played on the same

1111
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: deal much You just same You just hoisted as the

1112
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: number one corner on in the second What if Sherm,

1113
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: what if Sherman takes two million you bring shrim on

1114
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: a team? Is he the best on a team or

1115
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: is it gonna be certain? It's probably still gonna be certain.

1116
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: Sherm's I think Rode Sherman is a veteran dude. Come on, well,

1117
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: he's not prime Richard Sherman. Hey, Hey, that's good stuff.

1118
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm mocks her tan to Kyle so I'll jump in

1119
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: the boat with you. But Isaiah and heck Do made

1120
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: good points in terms of just what does the linebacker

1121
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: position look like a year? What does it look like?

1122
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you got you got Laton in the final

1123
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: year of his deal, unless they pick up his fifth

1124
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 1: year option. We'll see what happens there. Jalen got multi

1125
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: years left on his deal, but everybody wants to talk

1126
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: about cutting him this year. They didn't do that. Uman

1127
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: Shaun Lee's status is still up in the air. Francis Bernard,

1128
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: Francis Bernard's under contract. You got him, but lostep is

1129
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: that room. It's not very deep, it's not at all.

1130
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: Not on doesn't mean you have to spend a top

1131
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: ten pick on it. I'm just saying they're gonna have

1132
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: to address that position if they will, and I think

1133
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: they will. Rob as an offensive line, as an off

1134
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: as ave coordinator, and you played a Dallas Cowboys. You

1135
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: got those three motors at the second level. Your approach

1136
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: is substantially different than if you have two guys at

1137
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: that level and some okay corners. Get the heck out

1138
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: of here. Man, it's it's it's it's not even a

1139
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: competition and This is really not like you have an

1140
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to solidify your D line. They will continue to

1141
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: get some more guys in there to make that that

1142
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: D line. They're gonna correct that. They'll figure that out, right,

1143
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: They got some guys on the age, they're gonna bring some. Sure,

1144
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: they'll clog up the middle with big body. Just got okay, Now,

1145
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have an opportunity to put

1146
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: three freaking athletes, three vander esh and and him at

1147
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: the at Parsons are freaking huge. Put those guys in

1148
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: there and you and you take the responsibilities off Jalen

1149
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: and let him go out there and figure out how

1150
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: to swipe again. Right, do you let those three dudes

1151
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: run side this dude, that's a problem that scares you

1152
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: as a as an offense. Not freaking okay, corners that

1153
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: are young, Okay, so you would rather just kind of okay,

1154
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: put a band aid at the corner, signed, move some

1155
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: money around, sign another veteran corner at there's other picks

1156
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: and okay, okay, those other picks. I'm not saying to

1157
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: not draft a corner and say the same sick. You can't.

1158
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: You can't said that because the guys like Jabril Cox

1159
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: that's out there as well. Baron Browning, but they Bolton, whoa,

1160
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: they're not six four two forty five run and four threes?

1161
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: Thank you? Name another please name another history I've ever

1162
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: done six four two two forty five. I'm two thirty five. Kyle,

1163
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: he's an inch taller to me and tim pounds heavier.

1164
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, he runs a four three?

1165
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? If you're going by that logic,

1166
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: then let's go ahead and just draft Kyle Pits and

1167
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: let's figure it out because he's a generational talent more

1168
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: than Michael Parsons is. Let's I mean, if you're going

1169
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: for that, I'm just saying I don't. I don't like

1170
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: it if Micah Parsons is. If Michael Parsons is the

1171
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: pick at ten, I'm throwing my pin against the wall

1172
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: like that's my pin throw moment. If he's the pick

1173
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: at ten, I'm upset about that, and I will be

1174
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: upset about that on this show when we do it

1175
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: all point uh, you know, it'll be one of those

1176
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: like G two ones, like the really nice pins. That's

1177
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: how upset I'll be. I'm gonna chuck it straight at

1178
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: the wall and there's gonna be like a black mark

1179
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: in the baggas WBC MORTGT Studios logo. It's gonna be real.

1180
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I won't hit the logo next to it. Heck,

1181
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: might be high five brothers in the corner. Oh well,

1182
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: we hope you enjoyed the last hour of debate because

1183
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: we had plenty of it on this show. It's been

1184
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: saying with your chess Monday again this offseason. Goodness grocious.

1185
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: We've got some aggressiveness. We're gonna hit it again next week.

1186
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: Plenty to talk about with this Cowboys offense or excuse me, offseason.

1187
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: Never a shortage of storylines. But that's gonna do it

1188
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 1: for us today. For Chris Beam in the backstay long

1189
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: because we went a little bit long. For Rob Phillips,

1190
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back in heck, my Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's

1191
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: see you next week here on Talking Cowboys. This has

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