Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast the number one pick on
Speaker 1: your team's draft board.
Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.
Speaker 2: Dan Hands is here, Greg Rosehoal there, Mark Sessler also there,
Speaker 2: and we have.
Speaker 1: Reached Draft week. It's finally here.
Speaker 2: We can we can that we're just days away from
Speaker 2: knowing where all these young men will be. Not quite
Speaker 2: there yet, Mark, No, we are almost home.
Speaker 3: Well no, because you know this week we have the
Speaker 3: mock draft that I'm creating coming up in the box Sessler.
Speaker 1: Mark swore we will know where they're going.
Speaker 3: Then the actual draft will just confirm that the next day.
Speaker 4: This is a dangerous part of the draft cycle, like
Speaker 4: today Monday, maybe Tuesday of Draft week. It was this
Speaker 4: time one year ago that the Vegas favorite to go
Speaker 4: number two overall was a gentleman by the name of
Speaker 4: Will Levis.
Speaker 1: There was also some.
Speaker 4: Movement that the Carolina Panthers might actually take Will Levis
Speaker 4: with the number one overall pick, and the numbers in
Speaker 4: Vegas moved to He wasn't the favorite, but the odds
Speaker 4: were getting closer and closer that there was a chance
Speaker 4: that man did not get taken in the first round of.
Speaker 2: Them no, no, and and and that's bad look for
Speaker 2: the desert good context.
Speaker 1: Well, they they're just trying to get people to pay
Speaker 1: I know. I like that. That's where we come in, Yes,
Speaker 1: and we got your back.
Speaker 2: In these days leading up to the draft, we will
Speaker 2: parse through all the WHOI and apple sauce and and
Speaker 2: it's our job mark in a way, to let our
Speaker 2: listeners know what matters and what doesn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're the We're the uh, the portal
Speaker 3: in the prison that you'd want to look through for
Speaker 3: the truth versus what is a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: white noise out there and unreliable reporting and whispers Greg.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I'm remembering that, uh.
Speaker 2: Noise from all different cultures. I just want to point out.
Speaker 3: Not just one, that term is not racial, that it
Speaker 3: just means sort of like a fog of war type
Speaker 3: information dropping. Also, you know, a powerful Don DeLillo book
Speaker 3: a it starts well, yeah, confusingly like disappointing.
Speaker 4: Movie, you know, not my not my favorite by what's
Speaker 4: his name? Why am I space?
Speaker 1: You know? A bomb back? But still worth what film?
Speaker 1: Were we referring to? Noiselix?
Speaker 4: And this is this has been Steve pala Zolo's by
Speaker 4: at the Old PFF podcast uh On on Twitter. He's
Speaker 4: been pointing out what the odds were at this point
Speaker 4: a year ago.
Speaker 1: C J.
Speaker 4: Stroud was a five to one most like you know,
Speaker 4: likely to get the second overall pick. Tyree Wilson was
Speaker 4: also far more likely at this point according to the odds,
Speaker 4: than c J.
Speaker 1: Stroud going number two over So it just shows.
Speaker 2: Part of our job. Here is our segment coming up.
Speaker 2: It's a tradition. It's one of my favorite shows of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 1: It is Go Get My Lunch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, atomic turd, you know what I mean, Like where
Speaker 2: we make predictions about what's going to happen on Thursday,
Speaker 2: perhaps Friday, Saturday, and if we are correct and you
Speaker 2: are doubted, you end up getting hypothetical sandwiches.
Speaker 1: So that's cool.
Speaker 4: Yes, we have some breaking news, breaking breaking news.
Speaker 1: Love it.
Speaker 4: Former number two overall pick of the New York Jets,
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson is on the move. According to Ian rapaport
Speaker 4: HET's Go to the Broncos John Payton, the deal includes
Speaker 4: a late round pick swap sixth for a seventh, and
Speaker 4: the Jets will also have to pay some of Wilson's
Speaker 4: five point five million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's what this is about.
Speaker 2: The Jets were holding out hope that they could find
Speaker 2: someone to eat some of this money, and apparently at
Speaker 2: least some of the money.
Speaker 1: I believe it's over five million.
Speaker 2: Du So he goes to the Broncos and that is.
Speaker 1: There are there are After the.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers Achilles incident, it changed me fundamentally. I no
Speaker 2: longer view things with rose colored glasses as a Jets van.
Speaker 2: But the only time they want to know, well, yes,
Speaker 2: but we're not there yet. But Zach Wilson's the one
Speaker 2: outlier for me as a Jets van. Never felt right.
Speaker 2: It never felt right. I remember Draft Day was in
Speaker 2: the middle of COVID kind of being like, Okay, they
Speaker 2: seem to really like him. We remember the throw from
Speaker 2: his pro DA. He's a little small, he's a little
Speaker 2: bit of a pretty boy.
Speaker 1: He played for BYU.
Speaker 2: He didn't really face anybody of worth in a strange
Speaker 2: COVID season, but you kind of just he said, Okay,
Speaker 2: Joe Douglas. We like Joe Douglas, and he's hot about
Speaker 2: this pick that was always Joe's guy, Wilson. It was
Speaker 2: a disaster. And then when Rogers did get hurt. He
Speaker 2: ended up getting three full seasons as a starter, which
Speaker 2: doesn't happen. A guy that's bad from the jump getting
Speaker 2: three years doesn't happen. That wasn't the Jets plan either.
Speaker 2: Their plan was for Rogers to be the QB and
Speaker 2: him to be groom dump some level. Obviously that all
Speaker 2: fell apart as well, so the Broncos. Good luck to
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. He always seemed like a pretty good guy
Speaker 2: that got put in a tough spot and did his best,
Speaker 2: but wasn't good enough. I don't know if Sean Payton
Speaker 2: can fix him, but the Jets getting him out of
Speaker 2: the building entirely makes a lot of sense for them.
Speaker 2: It's another big misstep in franchise history of quarterback and
Speaker 2: now they move forward once more.
Speaker 3: I mean at like absolutely needed for the player like
Speaker 3: to start there, just like there's no way that the Jets,
Speaker 3: the Jets locker room, the Jets coaching staff, Zach Wilson
Speaker 3: could endure another like regular season drama that involved him
Speaker 3: on it and.
Speaker 1: He got replaced as the backup quarterback already by tired Town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had to go.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, so if you want to talk
Speaker 3: about truce for the draft. I think the Denvers, you know,
Speaker 3: they've been presupposed to be heat seeking a quarterback in
Speaker 3: the draft, don't need to know Greg.
Speaker 4: I don't think it changes their strategy. They needed a
Speaker 4: third guy along with Jared Stidham. Ben Denucci is also
Speaker 4: on that roster. I would put Zack Wilson probably over
Speaker 4: him if he was ever gonna rehab his career as
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson, and at this point, I think it'd be
Speaker 4: a good outcome for him if he has a good
Speaker 4: career as a backup and he's still in the league
Speaker 4: in five years. I don't I don't think you should
Speaker 4: assume that, but if he wants to have that sort
Speaker 4: of career, Sean Payton's a good guy to get him
Speaker 4: pointed in the right direction. It's a reminder, though, that
Speaker 4: the draft industrial complex.
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 4: It's like there weren't many almost no one was out
Speaker 4: on a limb being like, no, I don't see Zach
Speaker 4: Wilson as a number two pick. They weren't even saying no,
Speaker 4: I don't see him as a first round pick. Like
Speaker 4: everyone was in on Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't just the Jets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a famous or infamous depending on your perspective,
Speaker 2: Jets late season win over the Rams in LA caused
Speaker 2: them not to have the first overall pick. So just
Speaker 2: looking back again, this is a good draft to periodically
Speaker 2: check back in because is a big.
Speaker 1: Time quarterback draft.
Speaker 2: And on Thursday, we're probably gonna get three straight quarterbacks
Speaker 2: taken twenty twenty one, same thing. Trevor Lawrence goes number one,
Speaker 2: Jerry's out. He's a good quarterback? Is he a great one?
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson two, Trey Lance three.
Speaker 2: That's maybe the worst two to three ever in NFL
Speaker 2: history for quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: That would be an interesting wormhole to go down.
Speaker 2: And then of course you had Justin Fields at eleven,
Speaker 2: not with his team anymore, and Mac Jones at fifteen,
Speaker 2: not with his team anymore. So it's just Trevor in
Speaker 2: those top fifteen picks, five quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Only Lawrence is still with his original team.
Speaker 3: Well that, like, I know, a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 3: I sounded overly cynical about the quarterbacks in this draft,
Speaker 3: the draft in general, and it was like no, no, no,
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be infused with hope at this point.
Speaker 3: But the reality is like all these quarterbacks were talking
Speaker 3: about two of them probably flame out on some level.
Speaker 4: That the red flags seem so obvious now with Zach Wilson,
Speaker 4: Oh no, they're all gonna be great. Stop it seems
Speaker 4: obvious now it's like, oh, yeah, how did everyone with
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson, like he faced no pressure at EYU. He's
Speaker 4: protected so well, he's in this lower level people. You know,
Speaker 4: how did we not see that Trey Lance wasn't going
Speaker 4: to be this guy? And I just pushed back on
Speaker 4: that cause like no, almost no one was pushing back
Speaker 4: at the time. So you can say that now that like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's obvious that there were red flags. Very very few
Speaker 4: analysts said like now, I wouldn't take these.
Speaker 1: Guys at the first round.
Speaker 4: I mean everyone was going to take Zack Wilson if anything,
Speaker 4: but wanted to trade up the Eagles.
Speaker 1: The Eagles wanted to trade up for Zach, right.
Speaker 3: I think like during even even after his you know,
Speaker 3: shaky start, there were still people. It kind of reminds
Speaker 3: me of Sam Brad or Sam sam Darn a little
Speaker 3: bit too, where it's like there are these people with
Speaker 3: their dug in heels on these quarterbacks, and like, if
Speaker 3: you have the draft stock of going number two, someone
Speaker 3: else out there is gonna think they can make something
Speaker 3: out of you, no matter what's happened, And can Sean
Speaker 3: Payton do it? If he can, then he's going to
Speaker 3: be able to do all sorts of other things, because
Speaker 3: that would be a slight miracle.
Speaker 2: He can move, he could throw the football like he
Speaker 2: could throw the hell out of a football. Everything else
Speaker 2: has been a mess and he never really aced the test,
Speaker 2: whether from the neck up, whether he can handle it.
Speaker 4: Was a little better as a third year player to
Speaker 4: the point where you're like, okay, maybe he can settle
Speaker 4: in as a Drew Locke improving backup type.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see for a little bit there.
Speaker 2: And then it got so bad that they were playing
Speaker 2: guys that were street guys before they try to go
Speaker 2: back to him, did go back to him, then he
Speaker 2: got hurt. Just let's close the chapter. We move on
Speaker 2: all right anyway, So good start. We got a nice
Speaker 2: lead news item there Wednesday, the Mox Sessler Mark draft
Speaker 2: shout out to a listener.
Speaker 1: Put that on my radar. Why did we not come
Speaker 1: up with that.
Speaker 3: In previous years, I'd put the finger of blame at
Speaker 3: myself number one.
Speaker 2: There and always try to add something a little bit
Speaker 2: new to the mock Sessler mark draft. We're going to
Speaker 2: have a guess of high esteem in this world that's
Speaker 2: going to be involved with the process, not.
Speaker 1: With the picks. That's that's your job, right And I
Speaker 1: encountered that.
Speaker 3: I encountered this guest to be in the newsroom, and
Speaker 3: we we kind of hashed out a little bit about
Speaker 3: how it's going to go. So and I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: a couple OF's, some other surprises, new elements that happened.
Speaker 4: Something kind of like that. He doesn't want anyone right
Speaker 4: we have. He wants to be the puppet man. I
Speaker 4: will have the conversation about how it will go.
Speaker 3: I am a human being who's allowed to see what
Speaker 3: you're doing human beings.
Speaker 1: Well I was doing in control of the segment.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, Like if any just worry about your
Speaker 2: thirty two picks?
Speaker 1: How often are you like? Why aren't we like?
Speaker 3: Our newsroom culture is a bit challenged these days. It's
Speaker 3: kind of quiet in there. It's like I'm in there
Speaker 3: trying to have a newsroom here. Yeah, I talked with
Speaker 3: David Eally, talked with this guest. It's like that's what
Speaker 3: you do in a news room. I'm just saying ideas.
Speaker 3: I think talking is great. Yeah, the communication is great.
Speaker 2: But you got a thirty two pick draft to figure out,
Speaker 2: and then tug Boat's got some other things around that
Speaker 2: episode to figure out.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll stand off. I'll stand like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to come into your mock draft.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be like Sess in the Fantasy Spectacular
Speaker 4: and just hanging out not knowing what I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: D Pretty good acting by rog in a big spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, enjoyed it. Eminem Aging, we had maybe a minor disagreement.
Speaker 2: I feel like Eminem is aging starting to look a
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Speaker 3: I know that he has undergone some like health journeys
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Speaker 1: And I thought he looked good there in that clip.
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Speaker 2: There was a phase where he had a very dark
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Speaker 1: You're down on this, looks greg No. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I think it's been big the I think between the
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Speaker 4: got the draft, Like eminem NFL, it's a thing. We
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get into the latest around the draft. Let's
Speaker 2: start with this something that kind of broke a couple
Speaker 2: of days ago and just keep an eye on it.
Speaker 2: So Jade and Daniels, we talked about it on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Last Wednesday, it was reported that Daniels, widely believed to
Speaker 2: be the number two overall pick, on Thursday, was going
Speaker 2: to visit the Commanders, who have the number two overall pick,
Speaker 2: and then it was kind of weird because there was
Speaker 2: what three other quarterback prospects all bunched into the schedule
Speaker 2: at the same time, and everyone, you know, at first blush.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, that's a little odd. What is why
Speaker 1: the Commanders doing that?
Speaker 2: Then you have Jaden Daniels agent liking some tweets pointing
Speaker 2: out or criticizing the Commanders for their their strategy in
Speaker 2: terms of having visits, which you know connects directly to
Speaker 2: the player. Then you have Adam Schefter on the McAfee show,
Speaker 2: which we would play, but we're not allowed to play
Speaker 2: clips on the Pat McAfee show without paying like five
Speaker 2: million dollars.
Speaker 1: So I'll just tell you that Adam.
Speaker 2: Schefter says that maybe Daniels I yet his choice, wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to play in Washington, which then he tries to
Speaker 2: walk back that. Subsequently, However, Gregy, once you make that
Speaker 2: statement and you're Adam Schefter, that is going to take
Speaker 2: on a life of its own. So now there's this
Speaker 2: idea like this Eli manning four Chargers vibe.
Speaker 1: Could that possibly happen? We'll see.
Speaker 4: I don't mean, I don't think so, because Jayden Daniels
Speaker 4: and the agent have come out sort of since this
Speaker 4: popped up and tried to quiet it down. Daniels was
Speaker 4: on o Jo Sinko's podcast with Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 2: Way, we still have that plan. We're lowering the amount
Speaker 2: of player podcast to seventy.
Speaker 1: Okay, and well they're formative. Well they're former players.
Speaker 2: We're gonna well you clump them on under this seventy
Speaker 2: active player podcast.
Speaker 1: Greg, that's weird. Just players I made.
Speaker 4: You want to get there former players and bump it
Speaker 4: up to eighty five. Sure, okay, deal, Yeah, Shannon Sharp,
Speaker 4: who but.
Speaker 3: You're actively listening to whose podcasts we're about to cancel.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, No, not that one.
Speaker 4: This was from an aggregator that I believe it was
Speaker 4: from Pro Football Talk that that noted. Jaden Daniels was
Speaker 4: quoted on the record in a pod that just came out.
Speaker 4: I think he's Sunday or Monday saying I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: I want to go wherever I'm drafted, that's where I
Speaker 4: want to go. And so I think publicly it's fine.
Speaker 4: The situation was weird. I've heard speculation just you know,
Speaker 4: it might just be something where it's all you know,
Speaker 4: whether you want all the executives, if it's ownership, Like
Speaker 4: they're all there on one day and you can only
Speaker 4: get them all to you know, you only get ownership
Speaker 4: to show up that one day. Whatever it was, it's
Speaker 4: a strange, strange story. It gives you vibes from the
Speaker 4: old Commanders, but ultimately it sounds like they're gonna take
Speaker 4: their guy, Adam Peters. Their GM said. You know, he
Speaker 4: all but shut down that they would trade out of
Speaker 4: the pick. He's like, we feel very strong that we're
Speaker 4: gonna take the pick.
Speaker 1: Here was the quote from schefter Mark on Macviee.
Speaker 2: I think Daniels thought he was going to get more
Speaker 2: FaceTime there than he actually did. It didn't exactly, it
Speaker 2: didn't work out exactly that way. But jade and Daniels
Speaker 2: knows that he can't control where he goes in the draft,
Speaker 2: and his opinion doesn't matter where he wants to go.
Speaker 1: It's all up to the team. I think this, I
Speaker 1: think this blows over.
Speaker 3: I mean, there were, by the way, twenty two players
Speaker 3: at this meeting with the Commanders, and they took them
Speaker 3: to play top golf, and I heard where this became
Speaker 3: absurd to me, was like, if you're Jadeen Daniels and
Speaker 3: you're not a golfer. Maybe you feel like you're not
Speaker 3: being put in the best light. But have you ever
Speaker 3: been to top Golf like kids do top golf like
Speaker 3: he'd I think Jade and Daniels, a soon to be
Speaker 3: pro football player, would thrive at Top Golf.
Speaker 1: And you're just eating there. You're sitting there eating chicken
Speaker 1: wings and drinking beers. Well, let's here's the thing about golf.
Speaker 2: If you don't have any golfing experience, I don't care
Speaker 2: how good an athlete you are, you're going to struggle.
Speaker 3: I know, but I suck at golf. And I went
Speaker 3: to Top Golf and it was like, I don't need
Speaker 3: to I think you're right. The activity matters. But there
Speaker 3: were a bunch of people there. There have been other
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick told the MAC if you show that, it's
Speaker 3: not unusual to bring a bunch of people in.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's different for a quarterback.
Speaker 3: And I think it's fair to feel like if you
Speaker 3: want to be courted and you want to get to
Speaker 3: know an organization that's been a wayward organization for a
Speaker 3: long time, when you're looking at other teams like he is,
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels is very tight with Antonio Pierce, and he's
Speaker 3: talked about the Raiders in a certain way that make
Speaker 3: you wonder if, like, if he had his choice, he
Speaker 3: has to come say what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I'll be happy to go anywhere.
Speaker 3: But like, I don't think in general that this happens
Speaker 3: unless the commanders are a little bit suspect to him
Speaker 3: compared to other landing spots that could emerge. But he's
Speaker 3: gonna get taken by them, I think. And then you
Speaker 3: just got to put a smile on, right.
Speaker 4: The fact is that Chefter specifically had talked to me
Speaker 4: out before any of this happened, that if it was
Speaker 4: maybe up to Daniels, there's some other places that he.
Speaker 1: Was maybe the next team marking. How'd you do on
Speaker 1: top golf? I mean I did fine. I mean to.
Speaker 2: Insinuate that even though you're not a golfer, you you
Speaker 2: were hitting the I am. I mean I would accumulating point.
Speaker 3: I thought it was fun because like sixty percent of
Speaker 3: my shots were an absolute disaster. But then like just
Speaker 3: out of luck, you kind of peg one like way
Speaker 3: down the sure you feel great, you feel good, and
Speaker 3: you're like you're not a.
Speaker 1: Few things make a dad feel better than you.
Speaker 2: Go to the top golf and you put one off
Speaker 2: the back net, just with like residual dad strength, and
Speaker 2: it's like, deal with that little monsters and dream to.
Speaker 1: Be as good as me.
Speaker 3: That's I do like I like playing sports against small
Speaker 3: children in general.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we've.
Speaker 2: Talked that all right in other news. What was the
Speaker 2: ding for was that because you are you are expecting
Speaker 2: you and your wife you looking forward to hammering your son.
Speaker 1: No, that was a sport.
Speaker 5: That was a great conversation about top golf. I agreed
Speaker 5: with everything you say. I suck at golf and you
Speaker 5: just it's just go and hit the hell out of
Speaker 5: a golf.
Speaker 1: It's good nature as as.
Speaker 5: A little kid and you just get a hold of
Speaker 5: one and you're I don't have a child personally yet, right,
Speaker 5: But everything you guys said, not that you know of, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 1: The top golf count Larry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a perfect conversation.
Speaker 1: I agree with everything. Great, a perfect conversation. E t T.
Speaker 2: The other thing about the top golf look out by
Speaker 2: the way, because you take your couple of sons there,
Speaker 2: maybe your wife comes and they got oh here, get
Speaker 2: a couple of apps. Get a couple of beers. Oh,
Speaker 2: play play for an hour. Walk out of there is like,
Speaker 2: where is my two rocks? They're gone, Well I would,
Speaker 2: I would, I would try it like that. That was
Speaker 2: that drained the wallet on. The commanders are like trying
Speaker 2: to show we're not cheap. We'll take you to top golf.
Speaker 2: Uh here we go, get well sponsor us. Probably not
Speaker 2: now the Patriots, GREGI they would need, according.
Speaker 1: To a report, was a Burprier. It was Mike Grease.
Speaker 2: Mike Grease a block buster offer to not take a
Speaker 2: quarterback at number three. And that makes all the sense
Speaker 2: in the world, right There as few teams in the
Speaker 2: league when you just say, who needs a quarterback more
Speaker 2: than anybody New Engle pages. When you're sitting there and
Speaker 2: there's a there's a couple of good options, they would
Speaker 2: have to get blown away.
Speaker 1: And that makes sense. It does.
Speaker 4: And yet there was a somewhat conflicting report from Diane
Speaker 4: Orsina of The Athletic just Monday morning saying that that
Speaker 4: they're listening and that Elliott Wolf is running point that
Speaker 4: Jonathan Kraft is potentially involved, and they have said essentially
Speaker 4: publicly Elliot Wolf said it publicly just last week that hey,
Speaker 4: well listen, We'll listen to anything. So you could see
Speaker 4: this as position to the dance. Yeah, you could see
Speaker 4: this as positioning part of the dance. And yet I
Speaker 4: do believe that it would take something crazy for them
Speaker 4: to move off three. Why would you not. But they
Speaker 4: might also really prefer one quarterback to another, which would
Speaker 4: be a totally reasonable feeling. And if that quarterback's not there,
Speaker 4: then then suddenly they're more open for business.
Speaker 3: I do wonder if Elliott Wolf and the whole crew
Speaker 3: there would ever consider trading up to number two, and
Speaker 3: if they really think Washington's going to take their guy,
Speaker 3: and Washington's in this weird situation. Potentially, just with what's
Speaker 3: happened this week, maybe none of it matters, but like
Speaker 3: maybe they could flip flop and Washington still gets one
Speaker 3: of the top three guys, but maybe not the guy
Speaker 3: they think doesn't want to play for them, and New
Speaker 3: England winds up with Jaden Daniels just as you never know.
Speaker 3: Look where we were a year ago with the draft.
Speaker 3: We annoyed it was going to happen in like weird stuff.
Speaker 2: It could only be good for the Patriots or any
Speaker 2: team that's maybe hoping to get Daniels that if there
Speaker 2: any any chance there's something wonky there that would cause
Speaker 2: Washington to make a decision that could Yeah, let's say,
Speaker 2: all right, let's pause right here for a minute and
Speaker 2: take a break and then get back.
Speaker 1: To the news.
Speaker 2: All right, we're back other news. In other news. You know,
Speaker 2: you dream of drafting a quarterback like Matt Ryan, And
Speaker 2: I think everyone knows that I have a bit of
Speaker 2: a history with Matt Ryan had a habit of thrown
Speaker 2: for exactly twenty six touchdowns when I drafted in my
Speaker 2: fantasy teams.
Speaker 1: But that's not what he should be remembered for.
Speaker 2: He should be remembered as one of the great quarterbacks
Speaker 2: of his era. And he was, and he's a former MVP,
Speaker 2: and he ended his career not in such hot terms
Speaker 2: with the Colts.
Speaker 1: It was a forgettable end.
Speaker 2: But a lot of great Hall of Fame level quarterbacks
Speaker 2: ended careers with other teams in a poor manner. So
Speaker 2: we don't remember for the fantasy seasons that didn't measure up.
Speaker 2: We don't remember for we don't want to only remember
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl in twenty eight three or the Colts.
Speaker 2: Let's remember Matt Ryan on this day that he retires
Speaker 2: from the NFL as a damn fine quarterback.
Speaker 6: I want you to know that every day I felt
Speaker 6: the responsibility to give you the best version of myself. Well,
Speaker 6: we didn't accomplish everything we had hoped. I am proud
Speaker 6: of what we did, and I know that I gave
Speaker 6: everything I could to be the best that I possibly couldn't.
Speaker 6: You have no control in this profession of where you start.
Speaker 6: I am so lucky that my start and now my
Speaker 6: finish is here in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: That was a I think that's probably the future of
Speaker 2: how these careers end, with a highly produced videos shared
Speaker 2: with social It's already happening, but it's watching it with
Speaker 2: Ryan made me think of that, like things are different
Speaker 2: now than the old statement or calling the press conference.
Speaker 2: Oh there's probably going to be a press conference. Ryan
Speaker 2: Greg came in as a highly touted first round pick
Speaker 2: for a team that was, you know, looking desperately for
Speaker 2: a quarterback after the Michael Vick fiasco. For the Falcons,
Speaker 2: he goes number three overall in two thousand and eight
Speaker 2: and immediately was a QB won for them.
Speaker 4: Well, they at the time famously had never had back
Speaker 4: to back winning seasons in franchise history, and when Matt
Speaker 4: Ryan arrived, his first five years eleven wins, another winning
Speaker 4: season after that, he went nine to five when he
Speaker 4: was the starter, thirteen and three, ten and six, thirteen
Speaker 4: and three, And you said, like, we don't want to
Speaker 4: remember him just for the Super Bowl. I guess I
Speaker 4: would just say he played very well in that Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: He went against the Bill Belichick defense, which would give
Speaker 4: so much credit for shutting down Sean McVay, and I
Speaker 4: know they were better in twenty eighteen than they were
Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen in terms of the defense, and he
Speaker 4: lit them up, and his defense let him down. And
Speaker 4: you could say the play calling let him down. And
Speaker 4: he had a couple bad plays, certainly in the second half,
Speaker 4: but it was mostly his running back letting him down.
Speaker 1: In terms of pass protector.
Speaker 4: He averaged twelve or thirteen yards per attempt in the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl and was dominating the Patriots, whereas if you're
Speaker 4: playing for any other team that doesn't fall apart in
Speaker 4: the way that their defense did. He's a Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 4: He was great in that entire run. He was great
Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship. He was obviously the MVP that season,
Speaker 4: and he was very rarely a top five quarterback, So
Speaker 4: I actually don't think he's a Hall of Famer. He's
Speaker 4: going to be an interesting case someday. I went back
Speaker 4: and looked at like the QB Index rankings that we
Speaker 4: had for him. We only started in twenty thirteen, but
Speaker 4: he only finished top five once that MVP season, and
Speaker 4: then he was around eight or nine or ten a
Speaker 4: couple other times, and he was more in the ten
Speaker 4: to twelve range and putting up good numbers and a
Speaker 4: really solid quarterback year after year. But he should be
Speaker 4: a champion, And I hate that liked is looked at,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure he feels so differently because that's how sport.
Speaker 2: Do you even hear what he said, right, We didn't
Speaker 2: accomplish everything we wanted, a direct illusion obviously to something
Speaker 2: that he'll never shake.
Speaker 3: It reminds me a little bit different player, different statistical outputs,
Speaker 3: but the way you feel about Dan Marino's career, where
Speaker 3: it's like there was this one thing that never happened
Speaker 3: to Dan Reno and it kind of leaves him at
Speaker 3: times out of certain conversations. It's just like Matt Ryan, though,
Speaker 3: if you're one of these teams this week picking a quarterback,
Speaker 3: You'd be so lucky to have this. He missed three
Speaker 3: games in fourteen seasons with the Falcons.
Speaker 1: Like the durability.
Speaker 3: He's one of these guys that just like the rock
Speaker 3: dir He's there every week, the durability. And I was
Speaker 3: found like I couldn't get a grasp of Matt Ryan's
Speaker 3: personality for like a decade plus and when they were
Speaker 3: on Hard Knocks, the one time I thought he was
Speaker 3: one of the winners on that show where you started
Speaker 3: to see him differently and like he was a true
Speaker 3: leader inside the building and the Cult season was a
Speaker 3: free That's when I did QB Index and that was
Speaker 3: a tough watch to track weekly because.
Speaker 1: That was Matt Ryan falling off a cliff.
Speaker 3: And I know he wanted to come back last year,
Speaker 3: but go do your announcing thing. You had a very
Speaker 3: excellent career with the Falcons.
Speaker 2: As his career went on and you started to learn
Speaker 2: more about him and read, you know, reports about him
Speaker 2: that he was one of the more intense competitors ever
Speaker 2: and he was not above really giving it to his
Speaker 2: teammates on the field.
Speaker 1: A lot of hot mics will pick up.
Speaker 2: He was a guy that would get on you and
Speaker 2: chew you out if you didn't do the job the
Speaker 2: right way.
Speaker 1: But Peyton Manning did the same thing as well.
Speaker 2: Remember damn it, Donald, Like that's part of being He
Speaker 2: was a true, tried and true QB one franchise type starter.
Speaker 2: I think because I'm I'm with you, I think that
Speaker 2: that he falls just a little bit short. What if
Speaker 2: he had won the Super Bowl? Well, here's the thing
Speaker 2: I was going to say, two things. You finish off
Speaker 2: that game. He did take a awful sack that contributed
Speaker 2: to that meltdown, but yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was blown blown blade.
Speaker 4: He also had a what would have been one of
Speaker 4: the best throw in catches in Julio Jones's catches, maybe
Speaker 4: even better.
Speaker 1: That was the same possession though, right, same possession.
Speaker 4: Well, all I mean though, is in any other scenario
Speaker 4: where you just hand the ball, you know your coach,
Speaker 4: you have a decent running game, you run it three times,
Speaker 4: you kick the field goal, and you win. That has
Speaker 4: nothing to do with Matt Ryan, or you have a
Speaker 4: defense that makes a single stop right then you know,
Speaker 4: then you're remembering that throw.
Speaker 1: So it's just tough outs. But if you all works, especially.
Speaker 2: If they finished that game off and he's got the
Speaker 2: He won the MVP that year as well, so you
Speaker 2: had the MVP, you would have a super Bowl. And
Speaker 2: he finished with three hundred and eighty one touchdowns. And
Speaker 2: I know people don't care about nice round numbers anymore.
Speaker 1: We go a little deeper.
Speaker 2: But if you would have had a decent final run
Speaker 2: with the Colts, he gets over four hundred touchdowns. Those
Speaker 2: things that he just missed will keep him out of
Speaker 2: the Hall probably. But Maddie Ice also great nickname, had
Speaker 2: a awesome career.
Speaker 3: I will say you also had one of my favorite
Speaker 3: NFL throws of my entire fandom. This happened a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago, where you know, he's trying to hit
Speaker 3: someone along the sideline, overthrew the receiver and absolutely devastated
Speaker 3: a cameraman. I mean the cameraman was lost, lost at
Speaker 3: c for the of the rest.
Speaker 1: Of the week.
Speaker 3: We love that stuff, you love, I mean it just
Speaker 3: like it was just it was unintentionally us probably the
Speaker 3: You love the juxtaposition of big, strong football players with
Speaker 3: normal people and what happens when they're either standing next
Speaker 3: to each other and something is innocuous as a photo
Speaker 3: being taken or getting run over or being you know,
Speaker 3: run pass like you just love that.
Speaker 1: You love that well, you.
Speaker 3: Know when we're at those London games, there's a love that. No,
Speaker 3: but in your in the back of your mind, you're thinking,
Speaker 3: this is where I could get hit with a football.
Speaker 3: You love seventy mins? Come on, ETPI, he loves it.
Speaker 3: I love him, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Top ten in yards in touchdowns, but those are that's
Speaker 4: hard to yeah, hard to valuate, all right.
Speaker 2: And finally, in the news and other quarterback news, the
Speaker 2: NFL lost one of its MVPs.
Speaker 1: Another MVP.
Speaker 2: Roman Gabriel Form, a number two overall pick of the
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams in nineteen sixty two and also the
Speaker 2: first Filipino American quarterback in the NFL, died on Saturday,
Speaker 2: eighty three years old. He did win League MVP in
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine natural causes.
Speaker 1: Died peacefully at home.
Speaker 3: He had an interesting career because he was drafted by
Speaker 3: the Raiders in the AFL and the Rams and chose
Speaker 3: between the two teams to go to the Rams, and like,
Speaker 3: I watched some stuff on him this weekend and he
Speaker 3: was six five, two hundred and twenty pounds and now
Speaker 3: that's just like what you wanted a quarterback. You don't
Speaker 3: even But in sixty two he was a bit of
Speaker 3: an outlier and he had like the strongest arm in
Speaker 3: the league for years in a row. And after the
Speaker 3: Rams gave up on him, he went to the Eagles
Speaker 3: and one comeback Player of the Year, like they were
Speaker 3: like done with him. He didn't even really get started
Speaker 3: to like a sixth season. But the one thing I
Speaker 3: like about him, because it reminds me of Jim Brown
Speaker 3: a little bit, is like he used la to the max.
Speaker 3: Like he was on Wonder Woman, he was on Illigan's Island,
Speaker 3: he was on Perry Mason. He did a film with
Speaker 3: John Wayne and Rock Hudson. He did a film with
Speaker 3: Jackie Gleeson. Like wow, he basically like he's like, I'm
Speaker 3: going to become one of the first like strong armed,
Speaker 3: gunslinging quarterbacks who's also a movie star.
Speaker 4: This is where I wish West was here. He would
Speaker 4: have some good room and Gabriel takes. But that was
Speaker 4: you filled in.
Speaker 1: That's the response on.
Speaker 4: Look, No, no, no, no, I'm just saying he would have
Speaker 4: some strange story that he read book.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he over index.
Speaker 4: Also, you know, one of the great ash American, Yeah,
Speaker 4: American sports stars of all time.
Speaker 3: He was Filipino Irish by the way, good combat. You
Speaker 3: don't find that too often, not often, but it's possible.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, sure, you know a person and a Filipino
Speaker 3: person were to reproduce that.
Speaker 1: What happens when they do, it's bingo.
Speaker 4: It is interesting. And yeah, he was not a Hall
Speaker 4: of Famer. Compare him to Matt Ryan. You know, won
Speaker 4: an m v P three, three All Pro Teams, four
Speaker 4: Pro Bowls, the exact same as Ryan, and he did
Speaker 4: not make the Hall of Fame. His resume looks a
Speaker 4: little stronger at the top end than Matt Ryan's and
Speaker 4: he did not make it.
Speaker 2: Eleven years for the Rams, five years of the Eagles. Uh, Roman, Gabriel,
Speaker 2: rest in peace. Let's take a break, and when we
Speaker 2: return Sandwich prompts, and.
Speaker 1: We are back. We're back. I thought you would make
Speaker 1: to do it again. That's perfect, that works.
Speaker 3: No, we're keeping welcome back to I never know, you know,
Speaker 3: like wait, hold on, so Colleen had to do that
Speaker 3: the other.
Speaker 1: We lit that up. I want that one too.
Speaker 3: As a she received clear instructions on how to perform
Speaker 3: the task. I'm you tell me during the break, let's
Speaker 3: come back with Mark, you know, coming out of the
Speaker 3: bay side, and I'm trying to do a great job.
Speaker 1: And then it's like you're talking about right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm winked again.
Speaker 4: Dan is weirdly like an offensive coordinator that actually sets
Speaker 4: up his players to fail and then laughs like.
Speaker 1: It's just no, couldn't as pleased with the outcome. I
Speaker 1: do not feel the same.
Speaker 2: There's something about this bit that continues to flummix you
Speaker 2: because when we when I asked you to do the
Speaker 2: original one, right, I was trying to get you just
Speaker 2: to do uh what Greg had done, which was when
Speaker 2: I wasn't here though I did, Oh I didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I was going in sight unseen right. So then,
Speaker 2: so so we got something different and now we have
Speaker 2: this where but you've been here for multiple shows where
Speaker 2: we're in a break and I'll say, okay, let's come
Speaker 2: back with you know, Connie Bayside.
Speaker 1: So I just did that. But you thought I was
Speaker 1: queuing you, but I was clearly.
Speaker 3: This is an example of you operating in your own
Speaker 3: space and thinking that it makes sense to person B
Speaker 3: in person B is trying to do something fresh from
Speaker 3: their own mind, and it's not.
Speaker 2: It's colliding. It is, and I'm sorry to the listeners.
Speaker 2: I think they're the ones that lose ultimately. All Right,
Speaker 2: before we get into sandwich props, let's give some props
Speaker 2: to Trent Balki, who is the general manager of the Jaguars,
Speaker 2: who found himself in the news cycle briefly in the
Speaker 2: past week for you know, I would say, unusual reasons.
Speaker 1: Let's play it.
Speaker 6: We're not there yet.
Speaker 3: You know, we still got a couple of days going
Speaker 3: through coaching.
Speaker 6: I haven't sat down and go, excuse me going through
Speaker 6: the final board yet.
Speaker 1: We'll do that on Monday. That's so good, so good.
Speaker 1: It's kind of amazing. That's never happened before. It was
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 4: And he didn't stop what he was saying. Hen he said,
Speaker 4: excuse me.
Speaker 1: That's the key.
Speaker 4: He said, you could have gone excuse me, you could
Speaker 4: have gone pardon me, owned it very polite, and then
Speaker 4: continued his statement, it's draft season. That's the most important thing.
Speaker 4: I'm so excited about it. I can't control myself in
Speaker 4: the moment, but I will apologize for it.
Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, I give him credit or just
Speaker 3: simply rolling through it. It's like, oh, are you a
Speaker 3: human being? Do these things happen to the physical body?
Speaker 1: Yes, they do. Let's keep talking about the draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you beefed? I mean, if you have not beefed,
Speaker 2: do not raise your hand.
Speaker 3: I do love this headline. By the way, can we
Speaker 3: put this on? And TMZ decided you know, you know
Speaker 3: you could create multiple headlines for.
Speaker 1: This, mack if you have not beefed there. This is
Speaker 1: so TMZ.
Speaker 3: It's like Jaguars GM, Trent Balki and then it's an banger.
Speaker 3: All caps farts during news conference with three question marks
Speaker 3: and dot dot dot fans convinced, three Slammers fans convinced like,
Speaker 3: I think we all we all saw me.
Speaker 4: He literally apologized for it in the moment. Yeah, there
Speaker 4: was no mystery uh to what went on there. But
Speaker 4: I think it's good. I think we should normalize this.
Speaker 4: It happens is we're all huge and more often.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we should be very cool about it.
Speaker 2: So congratulations to Trent Balki for relieving himself in a
Speaker 2: big spot.
Speaker 1: He sounds a lot like Marty Funkes. How's there? He does? Oh,
Speaker 1: you're right.
Speaker 2: I was thinking of that he who is without sin
Speaker 2: can cast the first stone John eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 3: I think that's why if there's a if you want
Speaker 3: to point to a reason why that raise was said
Speaker 3: thousands of years ago, you'd look at this moment, he.
Speaker 1: Who has not beefed can cast the first stone stones.
Speaker 3: Unless you were born like eight seconds ago. That applies
Speaker 3: to like every human.
Speaker 1: All right, now, pivot point. It's time. It's time. It's
Speaker 1: a tradition. I love it. We love it. I think
Speaker 1: you love it.
Speaker 2: The listeners, we are going to uh play a little
Speaker 2: game we called go get my sandwiche Yeah.
Speaker 1: Beefer Oh I thought that sound, the biting sound, Mark chewing.
Speaker 1: I don't like the word beefed, by the way. No,
Speaker 1: I don't even makes you uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: No, it's just like I think, Greg, gregs, what's problem?
Speaker 1: It's a little too rich.
Speaker 4: I just have a Yeah, I just have an immediate
Speaker 4: reaction to it. Let's I just I love beef, and
Speaker 4: so I just don't like mixing that up. I got
Speaker 4: it the k Town last night. I had some some
Speaker 4: just delicious beef beef.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I'm just saying it's all connected in a
Speaker 2: way it is.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: So we go around, we each make a prediction about
Speaker 2: what's going to happen in the draft. A reminder. I
Speaker 2: don't think we have to remind each other. I think
Speaker 2: we all know at this point, but just it's good
Speaker 2: to get it out there. We want to have all
Speaker 2: these buttoned up by the end of the draft, the
Speaker 2: end of the seventh round on Saturday, so we can
Speaker 2: then at the end of the Saturday show be able
Speaker 2: to say our sangwiches owed, our sangwiches not old.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Dan sandwiches.
Speaker 2: We each make a prediction and then the other two
Speaker 2: people get to say I agree or I disagree, and
Speaker 2: if they disagree, it's a sandwich prop bet wager, and
Speaker 2: then whoever is right collect sandwiches. We have all time
Speaker 2: standings that you can check out at go get my
Speaker 2: Lunch dot org and that has every single prop we
Speaker 2: have ever made. And there's some whoppers draft season. And
Speaker 2: as always, you you must you must hang onions on
Speaker 2: at least one of your wagers.
Speaker 7: I don't maybe you try to these onions. You'll like
Speaker 7: them the real sweet onion.
Speaker 1: And what does that mean to hang onion? Mark ssslor.
Speaker 3: That means to you know, don't give us a milk
Speaker 3: toast run of the mill prediction about something vague or
Speaker 3: boring happening that we pretty much know will happen. Go
Speaker 3: out there, create some spice, uh something you know, disarming,
Speaker 3: something completely unpredictable. Put yourself on the line, put your
Speaker 3: creative mind on the line, and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Let it fly and shout out as always to Nick Fortier,
Speaker 2: who's been running the go get my lunch dot org
Speaker 2: site for a long time.
Speaker 1: We have.
Speaker 2: We did not do very well in the in the
Speaker 2: predictions last year, Greg, Mark, you hit one. The Packers
Speaker 2: drafted at least four wide receiver slash tight end. I
Speaker 2: hit the Texans state a number two the draft a QB.
Speaker 2: What you guys both took me on. I guess there
Speaker 2: must have been a lot of speculations. I just mentioned
Speaker 2: that's right anyway, So and then we got everything else
Speaker 2: literally wrong. So it's hard. Let's get started, Greg, why
Speaker 2: didn't you get us going?
Speaker 4: Okay, Dan, if you listen to our Thursday show.
Speaker 1: Loved it right up with move the sticks.
Speaker 2: Didn't think that was probably the right move. But he's
Speaker 2: on the show and what can you do? He can't
Speaker 2: can't scrub it.
Speaker 4: We wanted to keep you guys separate. And I know
Speaker 4: it hurts you to listen to him, but if you did,
Speaker 4: you might have heard me just mentioned because I've been
Speaker 4: trying to look around, you know, with my contacts inside
Speaker 4: the league. Let's let's be real employees of this company.
Speaker 1: Let's be even more real Ian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know a lot of guys, a lot of guys,
Speaker 4: girls all over the place. It's like, why is this
Speaker 4: guy Johnny Newton who I'm fascinating with?
Speaker 1: Uh Illinois. But it's true.
Speaker 4: I had a very specific you know, I have been
Speaker 4: asking around looking for people to tell me that Johnny
Speaker 4: Newton is going to go higher, uh than expected, and
Speaker 4: I can't really find it. So this is from This
Speaker 4: is from no from nobody other inside information, other than
Speaker 4: what I see with my eyes when I turn on
Speaker 4: the tape and I see a top notch player, a
Speaker 4: guy who can be a big time difference maker. And
Speaker 4: I think all these teams are staying quiet because they
Speaker 4: must see what I see when it comes to Johnny Newton.
Speaker 1: So then I went this morning and I checked.
Speaker 4: Out Johnny Newton defensive tackle Illinois, one of the top
Speaker 4: defensive tackles in the Lead.
Speaker 1: Ten Defensive Player of the Year in twenty three.
Speaker 4: Uh Mina sent me this link of maybe I'll send
Speaker 4: it out for him in high school just doing the
Speaker 4: thing where it's ridiculous how much he's just destroying these
Speaker 4: kids in high school.
Speaker 1: It like that.
Speaker 4: It did just exactly what I went and took, took.
Speaker 4: I checked, you know, a respected site out there. See
Speaker 4: what where is over under is as we we tape
Speaker 4: this on Monday, heading into the draft, his over under
Speaker 4: for the draft is thirty one and a half.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: First of all, do not let this man get to
Speaker 4: this least and to Chris Jones, I see that thirty
Speaker 4: one and a half. That means they think maybe the
Speaker 4: Chiefs are a team. Do not let this man fall.
Speaker 4: And so, for the first time ever, I think at
Speaker 4: the draft, they're actually gonna open up the stadium and
Speaker 4: they're gonna combine a sandwich with a big time rainstorm.
Speaker 8: The raidmakers coming out for the draft. He is getting
Speaker 8: taken before thirty one and a half. I say it's
Speaker 8: way before, but it's way before. All you need to
Speaker 8: get a thirty one and a half, Johnny Newton, did you.
Speaker 1: Not let the glass know that a brain maker was coming?
Speaker 1: I did let him know. How else would they be
Speaker 1: able to play this? Yeah, but where's our graphic? I
Speaker 1: don't like that graphic?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: Oh like that? No, I'm kidding. I didn't ask for
Speaker 1: the graphic or not. But we exist for that rain
Speaker 1: maker graphic. That's what we're here for. I love this.
Speaker 1: I love this fort's combined to Okay, I like old bits.
Speaker 3: I like old bits when you spoke to guys and girls, Yeah,
Speaker 3: did any were?
Speaker 1: They almost also flummoxed by the.
Speaker 4: Now they were just like what they didn't get much
Speaker 4: of a didn't get much. If you're watching on YouTube
Speaker 4: and graphic is here.
Speaker 2: I like when he shoots the money out of his
Speaker 2: mouth and it spins around Erica's most lasting contribution to
Speaker 2: the program.
Speaker 3: They do like spread during these like the suit and Tira,
Speaker 3: I think I was coming straight from an NFL Network show,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I looked like I was showing up in
Speaker 3: West Hartford for a.
Speaker 1: Day at the Mutual.
Speaker 2: All right, So I got I got a little sidetracked
Speaker 2: when you combine them, so it is me too.
Speaker 4: He is what he has to be drafted ahead of
Speaker 4: thirty one and a half. But I just thought I
Speaker 4: would combine two things to give our listeners an early
Speaker 4: opportunity at.
Speaker 2: Head of thirty and some rings. So thirty one and
Speaker 2: below thirty one and below. Okay, I mean, you caught
Speaker 2: me off guard. I gotta do my it's too late
Speaker 2: to do now. Research Like where's he Newton's where is
Speaker 2: he being mocked in the you know, where's he?
Speaker 1: Well, there's a consensus big board out there. Where's he
Speaker 1: on the consensus big board, which I believe has him?
Speaker 4: I call him Jack Newton around like that's what they
Speaker 4: based these things on. But he's he's higher on the
Speaker 4: consensus big board. I guess the draftnicks like him a
Speaker 4: little better.
Speaker 1: All right, where's he? Where's he going the mid twenties?
Speaker 1: And you're saying he's going? Okay, I'm looking at an
Speaker 1: article from twenty five is what I f side. It says,
Speaker 1: could Johnny Newton fall out of the first round? Right?
Speaker 3: They have no answer. All I'm saying is that's where the.
Speaker 2: He's got any medical red flags, got any off the
Speaker 2: field issues?
Speaker 3: No, Well, he missed the scouting combine with a fracture
Speaker 3: in his foot.
Speaker 1: His name is duras On Newton. I like that. That's good.
Speaker 2: He should go that over Johnny. It's always good business
Speaker 2: to take the uh sangwige guy. I'm not gonna do
Speaker 2: it in this case.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Greg, I think I shall point out, yes he
Speaker 4: did have foot surgery uh in the pre draft process.
Speaker 1: That would have been in January, but he played through it.
Speaker 3: One fatal flaw in your in your pitch was that
Speaker 3: you're so self confident about this happening that you make
Speaker 3: me not want to take you on the That's fair.
Speaker 4: I guess I'm thinking more about the listeners and the
Speaker 4: and the rain maker, and it's a big spot.
Speaker 1: You never know when it could be the last rain maker.
Speaker 1: But I'll again, I'll take you just because because why not.
Speaker 1: I'll take you. Okay, thank you for the for the
Speaker 1: show aspects, Dan that you're showman, choe man cho man. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will not take you up on it. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, I just won't. I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 4: You know what I also thought when I saw that number,
Speaker 4: that's perfect. I am looking for things to have me
Speaker 4: to add even more excitement to this first round of
Speaker 4: the draft. Not that we need to, it's it's the draft.
Speaker 4: But when it was thirty one, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is gonna be fun. As we get towards the
Speaker 4: end of the draft, I'll be rooting.
Speaker 1: You've got something to track. That's that. I think it
Speaker 1: could be much higher. That's nice for you.
Speaker 2: So Schrager sends out a tweet today, who that Johnny Newton,
Speaker 2: oh is not even on his list of Like he's
Speaker 2: pointing out in the tweet that there's never been a
Speaker 2: more lopsided offense to defense NFL Draft. First round from convos,
Speaker 2: I only have six surefire first round picks on D
Speaker 2: right now, Murphy Turner, Latu Arnold, Mitchell Verse, and then
Speaker 2: he has a later first, very early second guys on
Speaker 2: Chop Robinson, Darius Robinson, Wiggins, and McKinstry. So based on that,
Speaker 2: he didn't even listen. He's not even listen. So I
Speaker 2: will take you up on it now. I think that's smart.
Speaker 2: I needed to do a little research just in time.
Speaker 2: So there's something going on there because Schrager's pretty plugged in.
Speaker 1: But you know, foot surgery is not ideal.
Speaker 3: It is good that we actually did a lot. He
Speaker 3: didn't want us to do research. But there's no medical issues.
Speaker 3: But he's had just had foot surgery, which sounds like
Speaker 3: an issue.
Speaker 2: He missed the Oh it's a Jones fracture in the foot.
Speaker 2: I don't like that either. That's unpleasant. That's tricky, Gregy,
Speaker 2: I don't like that's a that's a cousin of it is,
Speaker 2: Frank that Harlot.
Speaker 1: That's tough to.
Speaker 3: Sell your fan base on some This guy just had surgery,
Speaker 3: so of course we'll take him in the first round.
Speaker 1: He's got a Jones fracture. Oh yeah, bring him in
Speaker 1: first round? Please? Who does that? All righty? And also
Speaker 1: big men with feet injuries, you know, a foot injury.
Speaker 2: Let's go. All right, I'm up next. Here we go,
Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go, Here we go. This
Speaker 2: one is not I'm not going to say it it's
Speaker 2: ballsy because it's it's conventional wisdom and a lot of
Speaker 2: these mock drafts, however, how often do we see that
Speaker 2: what everyone thinks going to happen isn't going to happen.
Speaker 2: With that in mind, this will be the draft where
Speaker 2: the top of the board goes exactly as everyone's talking
Speaker 2: or close to it. So the first and so what
Speaker 2: I'm what's gonna make this one a tougher one for
Speaker 2: me to hit is it's so big. It's a big
Speaker 2: swath of the first round. I'm saying the first round
Speaker 2: will go QB, QB, QB wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver,
Speaker 2: offensive tackle for seven picks.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I will take you because I think you're
Speaker 3: you just say number four. That would be the Cardinals
Speaker 3: in theory staying home and taking Marvin Harrison junior.
Speaker 1: Right, I think they're trading that pick. I do.
Speaker 3: I think that's where the fourth quarterback goes. So we'll
Speaker 3: take you. I would take you, just not even knowing
Speaker 3: what year I'm in. What's happening.
Speaker 4: You're trying to match seven slots with specific positions, right,
Speaker 4: Which doesn't.
Speaker 1: That the players whatever? The players are what?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we know the QB one and then those
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks are probably next to each other.
Speaker 1: The three wide receivers, we.
Speaker 2: Don't know what order they're going to go in, but
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be Harrison first, but they'll all be
Speaker 2: bunched together, and then Joe alt goes to the Titans.
Speaker 1: That's the way I see it. I mean this This
Speaker 1: to me is a massive onion hangar, a bigger one.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 7: Maybe you try to these onions, you'll like them, the
Speaker 7: real sweet onions.
Speaker 4: Then then you realize, I mean, they got the you know,
Speaker 4: you go to the horse track, you got the try,
Speaker 4: they got the trifecta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got the superfecta. I'm trying to hit a
Speaker 1: straight flush here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a super super duperfecta. I'll take you
Speaker 4: on that, all right.
Speaker 1: I like it though. That's a right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: That's a creative. I reached out to NFL Research this morning.
Speaker 2: Love love the work they do, always have, I said,
Speaker 2: has the draft ever gone all QB and wide receiver
Speaker 2: in the first six picks? And Ben McWilliams replied, that
Speaker 2: has never happened in the common Draft era era Dan however,
Speaker 2: Oh he's got a However, then in big spot, however,
Speaker 2: each of the first six picks in twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: were pass catchers, three qbs, two wide receivers, and Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 2: which is the closest we have come to that scenario.
Speaker 2: So this would be the first time if it does
Speaker 2: indeed happen. Okay, Mark, you're up.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get hyper specific because this will take it.
Speaker 1: This is my sports lock of the week. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is a this is a two parter.
Speaker 3: The Eagles will take Clemson linebacker Jeremiah Trotter after his
Speaker 3: father played.
Speaker 1: With the Eagles. Three to another Mark Trope, these things
Speaker 1: need to happen.
Speaker 3: And I was saying this with Joey Porter Junior all
Speaker 3: last draft season, and it happened and it worked and
Speaker 3: it's a good move. But so the Eagles will take
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Trotter junior and the Chargers will take Michigan running
Speaker 3: back Blake Korn, which I've been on that case.
Speaker 4: For you don't just pick one of these because they're
Speaker 4: both going to happen. I would like, I would wish
Speaker 4: we could put conditions. I don't think we should. It
Speaker 4: gets it gets too complicated, but we should. I want to,
Speaker 4: like I would get I want to do a sandwich
Speaker 4: on each of these, you know, split them up, and
Speaker 4: so I get two sandwiches because you're not going to
Speaker 4: get either one.
Speaker 1: I completely think you're wrong, or the odds are you won't.
Speaker 1: I don't really know its future is it's commendable for
Speaker 1: you to do this.
Speaker 2: Uh this but it's so hard to hit too, but
Speaker 2: there is there is connective tissue with both landing spots
Speaker 2: for both players, and and Howie Roseman literally went out
Speaker 2: of his way to say that Jeremiah Trotter was on
Speaker 2: the radar.
Speaker 1: People say a lot of things.
Speaker 3: It feels like an Eagles thing. It just feels like
Speaker 3: an Eagles thing to do. I they value that. That's
Speaker 3: a good point.
Speaker 1: Would you love it for the Eagles, Greg if they
Speaker 1: did it?
Speaker 4: I think if Howie Roseman said in a public setting
Speaker 4: that he's on his I'm not saying that you just.
Speaker 1: Lock it in.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that that means much. But why say
Speaker 3: it at all?
Speaker 4: Because you like each dad and you're just trying to
Speaker 4: like boost up his kids.
Speaker 1: Stop.
Speaker 3: I think I think you know that there's NFL bloodlines matter,
Speaker 3: and if you're harbaught, you're not going to take your
Speaker 3: running back.
Speaker 1: Who was listening? Who dazzled for your you know you.
Speaker 2: Had you had you had your little dance with Porter
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 1: I believe was that who was.
Speaker 3: Yes, Joey was a nice moment. Yeah, you crescendoed inn
Speaker 3: athlete victory.
Speaker 2: We were all very proud that you did it. Now
Speaker 2: you're going back to the well and it's it's it's suicide.
Speaker 1: It's suicide. You can celebrate, right, let's talk on probably.
Speaker 4: Uh you know, it's like sometimes you got to to
Speaker 4: leave well enough alone.
Speaker 2: You had a big you had that corn, coming back
Speaker 2: to it and it's gonna what you know what it's
Speaker 2: gonna do. It's gonna cheapen the porter pick.
Speaker 1: No, it has no effect on that because that was
Speaker 1: just a clear cut.
Speaker 2: It's been victory right, developing news, we're getting work. Yes,
Speaker 2: it will cheapen the porter.
Speaker 4: Pick unless you nail it, and then it'll make it
Speaker 4: even back.
Speaker 1: If I nail it, then it's like you just hang
Speaker 1: parties at that point.
Speaker 2: And just like I just gotta get both because weg
Speaker 2: and I aren't going to sit here and hand you
Speaker 2: bouquets of roses.
Speaker 1: If you get one, I wouldn't accept the book.
Speaker 4: I will give you verbal credit if you get verbal credit,
Speaker 4: but I'm taking the sandwich.
Speaker 3: Well rose credit means good enough here?
Speaker 1: Verbal credit? Would you get either? Always welcome? All right?
Speaker 4: Uh, all right, while we're throwing exact darts out, I
Speaker 4: I want to make sandwich props that I want to
Speaker 4: root for it's like picks you want to root for,
Speaker 4: and so let's just keep it simple. The Patriots deuce,
Speaker 4: take break me, and uh deliver me back into the
Speaker 4: womb of Foxboro Stadium with a nice exciting You're back
Speaker 4: into the That's not how it works.
Speaker 1: We're starting the journey again.
Speaker 4: We had an incredible journey that will never be topped,
Speaker 4: and then it ended. You're coming home and this is
Speaker 4: a this is rebirth, this is a new, a new me.
Speaker 1: You texted me over the week. That's not true. Greg. Wait,
Speaker 1: you literally did well, I did about the Dodgers, but
Speaker 1: what else it's about the Dodgers. Okay, Sorry, you.
Speaker 2: Texted me and you said you were at the game
Speaker 2: with your family and you said, I think that you
Speaker 2: like me better when I'm like a baseball fan or baseball.
Speaker 1: To which I wouldn't say I like you better, but
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Like that's like the most wholesome thing about Greg, when
Speaker 2: he's just like, hey, I'm you know, this is the
Speaker 2: sport I love, and I think it's the most wholesome version.
Speaker 1: It's why I thought of you.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting in a long line waiting for the Dodger Dogs,
Speaker 4: just with some time to kill on. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: Dan would be happy to know I'm here at the
Speaker 4: Dodgers game. I'm gonna text him. I will So I
Speaker 4: didn't like.
Speaker 2: I don't like you better when you're at a baseball game,
Speaker 2: but I do like you better when you're not lying
Speaker 2: about your Patriots fandom. So like, if this brings you back,
Speaker 2: if this brings you back in a.
Speaker 1: Real way, let's do it.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you, and I'm rooting for you if
Speaker 2: it could be danger for the rest of the AFC East.
Speaker 1: So you're not taking him on the uh? Would that
Speaker 1: mean I'm not taking him? I don't know.
Speaker 2: How does this game we do take me? If I
Speaker 2: want him to. I want I want to root along
Speaker 2: with you on this. Okay, let's bring Drake in.
Speaker 1: You're not taking me. I didn't take you on the
Speaker 1: last one either, though, so it's a little tricky.
Speaker 3: No, you did in the end, right, I did that said? Okay,
Speaker 3: I think you know for this sake, I won't.
Speaker 1: I will take you.
Speaker 3: But I I have noticed Greg that like your fascination
Speaker 3: with with Drake May and I I'm like starting to
Speaker 3: watch him more and more. I'm like, I see where
Speaker 3: you're coming from like this is a spicy player, but
Speaker 3: this is huge for you. I feel like your Patriots
Speaker 3: fandom hinges on this player going to New England. You've
Speaker 3: been talking in a certain way about the pairing here
Speaker 3: for a.
Speaker 1: Couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I haven't really heard you talk about the Patriots with
Speaker 3: passion in this way and will or the possibility he's
Speaker 3: noivous about J. J.
Speaker 1: McCarthy.
Speaker 4: Well, right, because Dan saying I've been I've been lying
Speaker 4: about my Patriots. The only if there's been any exaggerating
Speaker 4: going along, it's that actually have to pretend for Dan's
Speaker 4: sake that in sake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I understand the dynamic. I will take you,
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 1: Take you, okay, please. I don't get me started on
Speaker 1: the Browns with usas dog.
Speaker 3: But but Dan, I mean, it wouldn't even I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be walking around town or nor with Greg talking about
Speaker 3: our fandom if it weren't.
Speaker 1: You know, we weren't in this setting. So okay, next.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs they stop messing around. Then they trade up
Speaker 2: and get one of these wide receivers. Now I don't wanna,
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't say one of the Big three
Speaker 2: because they're so I think they're gonna be so hotly
Speaker 2: contested that, like I've already predicted, I think they're off
Speaker 2: the board by seven. But one of the who are
Speaker 2: the secondary guys like Brian Thomas, who.
Speaker 4: Are some he would he would be an exciting that
Speaker 4: that next tier, Yes, replacement, my god.
Speaker 1: They could trade up potentially to get that kind of
Speaker 1: mid round. So they're true.
Speaker 4: There could be eighty Mitchell could be xavery Worthy, anyone
Speaker 4: that they like, that's what it's fun about. It could
Speaker 4: be mccagae, it could be or they could stick and pick.
Speaker 4: But for you to get this, you're saying they have to.
Speaker 2: They have to make a trade to move up the
Speaker 2: board and then take a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Well, I've definitely taking you on that because even specifically
Speaker 4: saying wide receiver, that feels fifty to fifty to me.
Speaker 1: Oh, because they could go get rock for instance as well.
Speaker 4: No, I just mean they could take any position. Whoever, know,
Speaker 4: you never know what the value is going to be
Speaker 4: at that point. Can I to make it trading up
Speaker 4: for you can throw a bower?
Speaker 1: Can I modify it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because I think it's important for this. What I'm saying
Speaker 2: is they're going to be aggressive to add that playmaker
Speaker 2: pass catcher.
Speaker 1: So okay, it could be Bowers or another tight end,
Speaker 1: but probably Bower.
Speaker 3: I wrote, I come up with it about thirteen fourteen
Speaker 3: sandwich props here, But like book at Charlie Colon, Kansas
Speaker 3: City will trade up for a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: So I believe in what you're saying.
Speaker 3: But again, just for the sake of the the parlor game,
Speaker 3: I'll take you.
Speaker 1: I'll take you on that. Okay, Mark, this one's simple.
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys will take a quarterback in the first
Speaker 3: two rounds.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. M My onion hanger was cowboys related. Now suddenly
Speaker 1: our little cowboys head buy into us. That is fun.
Speaker 1: I will take you on it. Again.
Speaker 4: These are generally less than fifty to fifty propositions here.
Speaker 4: That would be doing something that I just haven't seen
Speaker 4: them do, which is think past this year and they
Speaker 4: just don't do that, and maybe they should and maybe
Speaker 4: they'll think about it after seeing Jordan Love.
Speaker 1: You know, rock the NFC. But I still don't don't.
Speaker 2: Two things right that what you're saying, And also we've
Speaker 2: never outwardly seen them doubt the idea of Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: as being that dude, right, that's they've always believed in
Speaker 2: that and has that changed behind the scenes in part
Speaker 2: because of his contract situation and the difficulties around that.
Speaker 2: I think it's way more likely when what is the
Speaker 2: now much derided quote that Jerry Jones had that they
Speaker 2: were going to be all in on the off season essentially,
Speaker 2: I think what he is going to be able to
Speaker 2: spin that at because obviously, because of their financial hurdles
Speaker 2: that they've been dealing with, they weren't able.
Speaker 1: To make big splashes in this offseason.
Speaker 2: But what he's going to spin that as, I think,
Speaker 2: is using the top of his draft class to bring
Speaker 2: in an offensive lineman, maybe to find somebody to replace
Speaker 2: the left tackle, to add a playmaker. I think that's
Speaker 2: what their path is going to be, so we'll be
Speaker 2: about helping and aiding Dak rather than adding this drama.
Speaker 1: But also, I could totally wake up.
Speaker 2: Imagine waking up Friday morning or Saturday morning, and that's
Speaker 2: what everyone's talking about because the Cowboys have entered this
Speaker 2: into the dialogue, right.
Speaker 3: I think it really depends kind of how the board falls,
Speaker 3: and if someone like Penic Junior came into their mix.
Speaker 3: I just wonder if that's where Jerry Jones gets kind
Speaker 3: of tempted I because I switched out. I went here,
Speaker 3: I went with the Cowboys. But the other one I
Speaker 3: had was that the Seahawks will take a quarterback in
Speaker 3: round one.
Speaker 1: And I think they're going to I really don't so,
Speaker 1: but I think I thought the Cowboys was I'll take
Speaker 1: you on the Cowboys one. Sure, yeah, I'll take you
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna stick with Cowboys because it was specific
Speaker 4: and it does relate to yours.
Speaker 1: So I this is your onion hanger.
Speaker 2: Hold that thought. Let's take a break. We'll come back
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys again. All right, We're back and back
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys with Greg Rosenthal sangwich props.
Speaker 4: Okay, So where I would push back from you and
Speaker 4: I would like to see this Cowboys team change the
Speaker 4: way they do things. And they have picked up guys
Speaker 4: who've kind of fallen in the draft. You're like, oh,
Speaker 4: how did Ceedee Lamb get to him? How did Zach
Speaker 4: Martin back in the day, or even Travis Federick like
Speaker 4: some of these guys that go later than you expect.
Speaker 4: But to me, last year, they showed who they are.
Speaker 4: It's like, Oh, we really need a defensive tackle to
Speaker 4: play right away, let's draft Mazie Smith.
Speaker 1: And it looks like a little bit of a reach.
Speaker 4: Oh, our tight end leaves for the the Texans, we
Speaker 4: need to take a tight end. Scoon Maker in the
Speaker 4: second round didn't really hit the field. And they have
Speaker 4: so many obvious needs right now, and they've gone into
Speaker 4: the draft having picked up Royce Freeman as their free
Speaker 4: agent running back that it just seems so clear. They're like,
Speaker 4: we are going to take our starting running back in
Speaker 4: the draft, and they are going to be as predictable
Speaker 4: as possible, and they know that fifty six is the
Speaker 4: perfect spot for it. So I say they use that
Speaker 4: fifty six spot. They're taking their starting running back with
Speaker 4: that spot. That doesn't feel onion hangary enough for me,
Speaker 4: but I feel very confident in that, and I say
Speaker 4: they get as basic as possible and they just look
Speaker 4: in the same state and they see Jonathan Brooks and
Speaker 4: they're like, Oh, this is the guy who's a little
Speaker 4: devalued because he's coming off of torn acl but he
Speaker 4: would have been the number one guy, and this can
Speaker 4: be our zeke for the next five years. Jonathan Brooks
Speaker 4: is the fantasy running back winner of the night.
Speaker 1: Because he gets taken by the cowboys there.
Speaker 2: I like that one A need Hollard flopped last year
Speaker 2: and his chance to be the big guy dee deep
Speaker 2: in the rear view.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's coming back, maybe he's not.
Speaker 2: I'll take you on it, though very specific, always take
Speaker 2: the specific.
Speaker 1: Ones good thinking. I that is very dallas Ish, but
Speaker 1: I'll take.
Speaker 2: You they're gonna make I think the only thing I
Speaker 2: feel confident about, and I think it makes all three
Speaker 2: of us potentially right here, is that they're gonna want
Speaker 2: to make a splash move because you know what, Jerry
Speaker 2: Jones hates everyone's saying that.
Speaker 1: He's not doing anything like he wants to do something fun.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna.
Speaker 2: Don't think they're gonna take a guard in the first round.
Speaker 2: All right, onion, hangar time, I don't.
Speaker 7: Maybe, uh, you try these onions. You'll like him, the
Speaker 7: real sweet onions.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who this is. Honestly, I could
Speaker 2: throw out a couple like the farmer. Certain No, I
Speaker 2: hope I don't know him either, but I hope he's
Speaker 2: still with us. Sounded old when we started playing the
Speaker 2: drum due you start doing the math, you start to
Speaker 2: get nervous.
Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this is a certain wide receiver out of
Speaker 2: San Francisco, though I don't necessarily buy into that, but
Speaker 2: it could be hypothetically anyone a who I want to
Speaker 2: be careful with the wording here. I was going to
Speaker 2: say an All Pro player. No, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: go Pro Bowl player. A Pro Bowl player will be
Speaker 2: moved in a trade between now and midnight Friday morning.
Speaker 1: Any position? Any position?
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, because like Ayuk, for instance, has he made
Speaker 4: a Pro Bowl?
Speaker 2: If he hasn't, then I need to recalibrate this. Well,
Speaker 2: how about the guy it's supposed to be a superstar.
Speaker 2: I hope he's made at least one Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3: You could say Pro Bowl player, and or Brandon Ayuka.
Speaker 1: He has not made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4: He actually was second team All Pro, which is a
Speaker 4: harder honor to reach. All right, So first Team All PFF,
Speaker 4: which I didn't know is now listed on Pro Football Reference.
Speaker 1: So job by that we'll lead to PFF.
Speaker 2: All right, So someone that has either been named to
Speaker 2: an All Pro team, first or second team, a Pro Bowl,
Speaker 2: or the Hallo PFF top fifty.
Speaker 1: What is it top team? They all pro, all pro PFFT.
Speaker 1: So it has to basically happen during the first round.
Speaker 2: From starting now as I say these words, till Friday
Speaker 2: morning at midnight.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take you on that.
Speaker 3: I had Brandon Ayuk won't be on the Niners by
Speaker 3: Saturday night.
Speaker 1: So I kind of I'm with you. I thought you
Speaker 1: said that wasn't happening. Well, I just put it up
Speaker 1: as a sandwich prop.
Speaker 4: That's one of your thirteen. Yes, I wasn't going to
Speaker 4: be your next one.
Speaker 3: No, because I also DeVante Adams won't be on the
Speaker 3: Raiders because I think he's part of a deal to
Speaker 3: move the Raiders move up to get like one of
Speaker 3: the top three. Whoa DeVante Adams has to be out
Speaker 3: the door for that. But that's not where I'm going
Speaker 3: with mine. But I will take you on this. You will, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I will too. But you see what Mark is doing here.
Speaker 3: He's playing the game, and I don't mean the game
Speaker 3: of the sandwich. Let's be honest. He last bought a sandwich,
Speaker 3: not just for us, but for anyone. He's never eaten
Speaker 3: a sandwich. Nineteen ninety four was when he last bought
Speaker 3: a sandwich for his friends or.
Speaker 2: Is a last day of camp happiness actually got off
Speaker 2: the bus and they were right next to it.
Speaker 3: I recall buying you like bond knees or something at
Speaker 3: some point I did.
Speaker 1: I did do that, like, oh look it's a deli.
Speaker 1: It was a while ago, but go on, I know
Speaker 1: where you're going with this.
Speaker 4: He's playing the game of life and the game of
Speaker 4: social media and the game of Mark gets one of
Speaker 4: these right if he just throws them out really out
Speaker 4: of this podcast, eventually, you know he'll get credits from
Speaker 4: all the listeners even though he's not playing by the rules, and.
Speaker 1: He's got got fifty things there.
Speaker 2: Every time someone throws it out, you say four more
Speaker 2: that are on your list, and it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: they're not official, but you've now said them.
Speaker 1: But it's it's well played, Mark. See.
Speaker 3: I Also, I put a lot of you know, work
Speaker 3: and thought into this, and so I don't want it
Speaker 3: just to be when I close my Google doc and
Speaker 3: then it's like gone forever into an abyss right unfair
Speaker 3: to the listener, into also myself right spicy.
Speaker 2: Not an example like when I throw out my onion
Speaker 2: hanger here and then you're just stomping it all over
Speaker 2: with all this like Devonte Adams is getting traded and
Speaker 2: this guy's going all of a sudden, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just we're talking about marks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you gotta there that people were saying that's
Speaker 3: that was a hotter concept right there.
Speaker 1: So but let's try to steer it back to someone
Speaker 1: else's I'm taking you on yours, I said, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's so, and you're taking on mine. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: So a trade of a star player.
Speaker 2: Under any of those designations ahead of the draft I
Speaker 2: just had it. Is it would be fun aj Brown
Speaker 2: being a prominent example two years ago.
Speaker 1: Is there one last year?
Speaker 3: No, But it seems more like likely now that this
Speaker 3: can happen then and then in any other time.
Speaker 2: General GM's feel like their onions are bigger than they
Speaker 2: used to be.
Speaker 4: I have just heard back from the onion Committee. They
Speaker 4: do evaluations of what's an onion hanger, make sure everything
Speaker 4: yes qualifies that that qualifies as an onion hanger. But
Speaker 4: they actually have come back to me and said, your
Speaker 4: first one that you said seven different guys at very
Speaker 4: specific positions, was a bigger hanger.
Speaker 1: So you didn't. They believe you didn't.
Speaker 4: Calibrate, which was the biggest But either way they're both.
Speaker 2: I think I think I've earned a level of esteam
Speaker 2: within that committee though they're like, oh, this guy's playing
Speaker 2: a win and maybe loose more likely.
Speaker 1: And I thought, you know you should.
Speaker 3: You shook it up with your first uh props, so
Speaker 3: you know that's that's a credit to you.
Speaker 2: All Right, one more mark. You've already given us twelve.
Speaker 2: But what is your final?
Speaker 1: Well, so use this.
Speaker 3: I have one that exceeds beyond the draft a little bit,
Speaker 3: so I will ignore it if you don't want to
Speaker 3: hear that one as my onion hanger.
Speaker 1: How far behind it? Well, it's it's I would call
Speaker 1: it collateral damage. Go ahead, what is it?
Speaker 3: A general manager will be fired within seventy two hours
Speaker 3: of the draft wrapping, and it will be a surprise,
Speaker 3: just because any that would be a surprise for anyone.
Speaker 4: But well, we've talked about George Peyton. To me that
Speaker 4: that wouldn't be related like to the draft.
Speaker 3: It was like, what if I say not George Payton,
Speaker 3: everyone thirty one other option?
Speaker 4: Now, Actually, the Onion committee has noted this happens a
Speaker 4: decent amount here.
Speaker 1: You know where they change. They're not committees voting this
Speaker 1: down as an onion. Well I'll give you a different
Speaker 1: one then, how about that? I'll go ahead, and what
Speaker 1: else you got? How about this?
Speaker 3: Because I've done I've gone down this road before, and
Speaker 3: it's like, I just know it's going to happen in
Speaker 3: our life at something.
Speaker 2: But let the record now state that Mark has now
Speaker 2: put it out there that if a GM is fired,
Speaker 2: he wins again. Well, I think so, and if no
Speaker 2: one gets fired, it will never be brought up again.
Speaker 1: So there's a nice little setup there for you.
Speaker 3: How about this, Yeah, a major non sports related news
Speaker 3: story will take wholesale precedents over the draft. Maybe not
Speaker 3: on day one or night one, but by the end
Speaker 3: of the selection process it will.
Speaker 1: It will barely be on anyone's mind.
Speaker 2: The draft itself define anyone's like what about Well, okay,
Speaker 2: us are we doing a podcast?
Speaker 3: We're I think we're like again, I'm not sure it's
Speaker 3: day one. I think we're By by the time we're
Speaker 3: doing our our Saturday recap, it will feel awkward.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, Okay, I could accept that because we're doing
Speaker 4: a show a Saturday like this one hangs.
Speaker 1: It sounds like potentially sad, but it's.
Speaker 4: A big enough story that our Day three Winners and
Speaker 4: Losers podcasts feels beside. The point is what you're trying
Speaker 4: a little bit?
Speaker 3: I think, no, no, no, not no, because like the
Speaker 3: show must go on and we and we are going
Speaker 3: to give people what they want.
Speaker 1: At some point.
Speaker 3: They may not be listening to it for some people
Speaker 3: the minute its release, but they'll they'll be glad that
Speaker 3: we did it and that's the way we do business.
Speaker 1: But it will feel slightly awkward.
Speaker 2: And maybe this because I've gone down a rabbit hole,
Speaker 2: uh after Oh j Simpson died. But it's like that.
Speaker 3: Where it's like Nicks Rockets receded into the deep background,
Speaker 3: and by the end of that series people were watching.
Speaker 3: The end of that, they still cared about sports, but
Speaker 3: like this became something, but.
Speaker 1: Like much larger a summer.
Speaker 2: Likely because that was a one in a million thing,
Speaker 2: like maybe something geopolitical going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, baby Jessica falls back down the well.
Speaker 3: Any one of well, I don't know about that, but
Speaker 3: like things of this.
Speaker 4: Forty years, I mean, this is all this is all vague,
Speaker 4: but I'll accept it, I'll accept it.
Speaker 1: What about the committee? The committee does there? They're fine
Speaker 1: with it? Yoh, yeah, I mean I don't maybe. I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's an onion hager, Like what are the chances?
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely an onion hanger, and I will
Speaker 1: confused the committee. The committee is confused.
Speaker 4: And just to circle back to Tye bow on it,
Speaker 4: there was a big veteran trade Draft week last year,
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers was traded to the Jets.
Speaker 1: Was it April? Was earlier? April twenty fifth? Never? I
Speaker 1: don't know was that draft week? I don't even know
Speaker 1: it was right. Maybe the week before might have been
Speaker 1: Welcome to Jet Live Stadium. I believe it was two
Speaker 1: days before the draft.
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty crazy April twenty seventh, twenty twenty three, how
Speaker 2: about that? So yeah, if you count that, one's a
Speaker 2: little different. That's kind of not exactly what I mean.
Speaker 2: But that was a different situation.
Speaker 1: But the A. J.
Speaker 2: Brown one is a perfect example, like, is there some
Speaker 2: team out there that is going to make that big
Speaker 2: move to get a first round pick or a second
Speaker 2: round pick? But with Brandon are you getting a trade?
Speaker 2: For example, we would assume, oh, he's a first round player. Well,
Speaker 2: we don't know. We don't operate that way.
Speaker 1: Now we know.
Speaker 2: You don't got the wool over our eyes anymore football?
Speaker 2: Anything else?
Speaker 1: I've got part? Do you want to get anything else?
Speaker 1: I've got twenty more. But I'm gonna it will it
Speaker 1: will dilute the ones that you've had.
Speaker 3: Just I'm gonna sit on I'm gonna say I actually
Speaker 3: mentioned everyone that that I that I created.
Speaker 2: So I look, sometimes we've had the producer do one,
Speaker 2: but it's only occurring to me now. And I don't
Speaker 2: want to put Eric in a tough spot. You didn't
Speaker 2: have one by any.
Speaker 1: Chance, did you.
Speaker 5: No, I'm also three or oh, so I don't want to.
Speaker 5: I don't want to sit on one. That's smart. This
Speaker 5: is when you know people retire ahead the top of
Speaker 5: the game and stuff. So I'm not going anywhere. But
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I'm not messing up my record.
Speaker 1: That's smart unless you're absolutely certain.
Speaker 3: No, no producer's done that, though to go three and zero,
Speaker 3: they've typically been horrible.
Speaker 2: I'm impressed, all right, Wednesday, it's a big one. It's
Speaker 2: a big, big one. It's the mock Sessler Mark Draft.
Speaker 2: How many times have we done. It got to be
Speaker 2: around five now, right, I think I've seen five. When
Speaker 2: I'm doing like my lookthroughs, I think this would be
Speaker 2: might be six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was doing it before we made a show
Speaker 3: out of it, though it was a tweet type of
Speaker 3: situation where right, and you know, a vast majority of
Speaker 3: people looking at it didn't realize that I didn't actually
Speaker 3: work in the draft in any capacity, and so they.
Speaker 1: Got any aggregate write ups. Uh, I don't recall that happening.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was taking that. Maybe this year
Speaker 1: will be different. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: We've got to treat it seriously and I think people
Speaker 3: will will will be pulled over their eyes.
Speaker 4: You would have thought that an NFL media employee putting
Speaker 4: out a mock draft would just set the internet on fire,
Speaker 4: but you're getting them fired up.
Speaker 2: One thing that will hurt us is, I would think
Speaker 2: in terms of being taken seriously, which we struggle with
Speaker 2: in general as a show to be taken seriously, but
Speaker 2: the mock Sessler Mark draft might be a little bit
Speaker 2: of a heads up to people that.
Speaker 1: We're not your standard draft. But I stand by it
Speaker 1: as I think we're the only Mark draft out there.
Speaker 1: No other Mark draft.
Speaker 4: You think Mark Ross is doing a Mark draft. No,
Speaker 4: he's doing a mock draft. Let's get it out part
Speaker 4: of it. We just need we need someone somewhere to
Speaker 4: aggregate it. And it is a tremendous victory, not for
Speaker 4: me solo, but put the show.
Speaker 1: We'll put all right, that's it. We'll be back Wednesday. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then after that we'll be back Thursday, and then
Speaker 1: that will.
Speaker 2: Be the night of the draft. So we're getting there.
Speaker 2: Can't wait, I can't wait. Heed the call