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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now

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Speaker 1: former Triple Crown winner J. P. Chad Rick. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure of what this triple Crown anymore, but I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick. We've got

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Speaker 1: Pete Briscoe, Tony Boselli, the final cut to fifty three

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, and plenty of youth to be sir for

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Speaker 1: the Jags this year. And tonight We're gonna pick the

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Speaker 1: schedule like we always do the show before the regular season,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure Tony we'll have the Jags going at

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Speaker 1: least eleven and five and into the playoffs and deep

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Speaker 1: into the postseason. We'll go around the National Football League

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Speaker 1: as well. Gentlemen, Good afternoon, Pete down in South Florida.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Uh? Does Tony have any locks for the

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Speaker 1: year so far? Any this week for the season? Anything

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Speaker 1: the week to start? Give me something, you need something,

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Speaker 1: It's it's game week. I'm not ready yet. Maybe by

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Speaker 1: the end of the show I'll have a lock for everybody,

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Speaker 1: but I'm right now, I'm kind of waiting. I gotta

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Speaker 1: feel out the show and kind of see where we go.

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Speaker 1: I think I might have a lot how it works

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Speaker 1: on the end of the show. Yeah, Pete, you gotta

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Speaker 1: you have a locke by the end of the show,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a lock. It's pretty rare. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Tony locks come weekly. We get those all the time.

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Speaker 1: The Pete lock, that's when you know he means business.

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Speaker 1: He be locked down the playoffs last year and Week

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Speaker 1: four he didn't body work out that way. Do you

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Speaker 1: think the lot, like the law, your lock could have

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Speaker 1: something to do with like you're not doing the show anymore.

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Speaker 1: That'd be a good luck? Oh wow? How bad with

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Speaker 1: the show? If I was just you and j P COmON,

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Speaker 1: who would who would pick on you? Won't you listen?

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Speaker 1: Well you should be? Um. Yeah, I don't think like

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Speaker 1: we've been picking on each other is very nice, Pete.

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Speaker 1: I think JP and I are nicer human beings than you,

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Speaker 1: so we're probably kind to each other. You're the one

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Speaker 1: who picks hell. Would I be scared of Tony? By

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Speaker 1: the way, what is that about? No way, man, those

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Speaker 1: glasses you got on today, No, these are glasses I've

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Speaker 1: had same looks different here. Maybe just for far away,

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Speaker 1: you're looking more like Mr Burgoon to me or something. Wow,

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Speaker 1: maybe you should have yours check, Pete. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. By the way, I'm an old guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm an old guy. Tony's an old guy. Plus you

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Speaker 1: got a add on twenty five years forever every injury

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Speaker 1: he's had, so he's an old guy. JP is pretty old.

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Speaker 1: But you know who's not old? Nobody on the rosters old.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Jaguars one of the most amazing in all

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Speaker 1: of sports when it comes to what they've done. It's

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Speaker 1: a great for the Final fifty three where the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: they have more young young players on their roster than

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Speaker 1: anybody I think, And I haven't done the work on it,

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Speaker 1: like the Dolphins clean house and started all over, but

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Speaker 1: they weren't this young. You make it sound like amazing,

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Speaker 1: like in a good way. That's amazing. No amazically bad.

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Speaker 1: How's that? Well? I actually oosmy Tony. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's that bad a fit. I'm gonna be on a

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Speaker 1: minority on that one. I don't think it's that bad thing.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get to the numbers of it, guys, real

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Speaker 1: quick before we move on here, sixteen rookies on the roster,

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Speaker 1: eight second year players on the roster, six third year players.

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Speaker 1: That's thirty of the fifth three that have played two

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Speaker 1: seasons of football or less in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from G M. J. Caldwell. He says, give

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Speaker 1: them a chance. Don't count this team out yet. And

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Speaker 1: and I think they'll tie. The same thing. We we

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Speaker 1: can't afford a rebuilding year and and that's not our mindset.

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Speaker 1: Our mindset is to put um the best team out

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Speaker 1: there to to to play, to compete in the win.

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Speaker 1: And um, we feel like these guys, the guys in

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Speaker 1: this locker room, Um, you know, nobody has seen him

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Speaker 1: play together. Nobody has seen him play a game. So,

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Speaker 1: like I said, we're gonna know where we measure up.

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Speaker 1: We played a very talented uh Indianapolis Colts on Week

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Speaker 1: one and then we follow up with a final four

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Speaker 1: team with the Tennessee Titans. So we'll know pretty pretty

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Speaker 1: quick where we measure up with some of the top

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Speaker 1: teams in the league. Yes they will, Tony, Um you

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Speaker 1: know Mr Khan and Caldwell said that Mr Khan gave

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Speaker 1: the field and get the salary cap in order. Those

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Speaker 1: are those are two tough, tough things to do together

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Speaker 1: at the same time. Well, I mean the bottom lines,

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Speaker 1: you want to put the best team on the field,

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Speaker 1: and try to win the conference. And Dave's right, nobody

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Speaker 1: knows what this team is because we haven't seen this

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Speaker 1: team play together. There's no preseason. It's a young team.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned all the new guys, sixteen of him a rookies,

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Speaker 1: count on a number of those guys UM to help

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Speaker 1: you win. I like, I appreciate the confidence that Dave has.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the positive attitude he has. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what you have to do, UM when you're in a

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Speaker 1: leadership position where he sits. But I think as you

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Speaker 1: look at it and you're realistic about UM and you

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Speaker 1: just look at history, there's a reason teams don't go

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of rookies, and there's a reason that

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Speaker 1: like coaches and gems in the past haven't counted on

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Speaker 1: a bunch of rookies help them win. Championships and because

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Rookies take Rookies make mistakes, they learn

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Speaker 1: on the fly. Um, it's hard to count on those guys,

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Speaker 1: to winning football a lot of times. So, um, history

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Speaker 1: tell you it's gonna be a tough slid for them

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Speaker 1: based on you know, the number of young players are

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Speaker 1: I still say the biggest, uh, you know, the biggest

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Speaker 1: How he plays um like so much of like so

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Speaker 1: die by the quarterbacks. That's how this league is nowadays. Um.

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Speaker 1: You either have to be really really good everywhere else

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Speaker 1: So Gardner's gonna be He's have to have played top

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Speaker 1: always about the quarterback position. And then when you're really young,

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Speaker 1: it's even more so. Who who's the most experienced guy

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that? Is it? Avery Jones has

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Speaker 1: well have seven, I think that's right, But nobody double

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Speaker 1: Jim so young football t Pete, I mean listen, look

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Speaker 1: at the I mean, go to the guys who're gonna

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Speaker 1: start your quarterbacks, the second year player, You're right tackles

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Speaker 1: a second year player. You're gonna have running back by committee,

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Speaker 1: seventh year Chris Stomps. But everyone else is super young.

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Speaker 1: Your receivers that you know, DJ Chark, third year guy,

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Speaker 1: a third year player, gonna start a rookie safety? Uh,

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Speaker 1: crazy you start. What did I say? Wait, what did

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Speaker 1: I say last week that seven rookies could start? And

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Speaker 1: isn't That's one Today was talking about Josh Jones a

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Speaker 1: sounds like, well, Doug Baron today talked up Josh Jones

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether it's five. You could eventually you're

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Speaker 1: whether it's five, six or seven. The bottom line is

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. I mean, it is shocking how young they

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Speaker 1: telling are projecting probably the best team in their division. Well,

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Speaker 1: room doesn't. There's not a direct correlation to success. Right,

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Speaker 1: you gotta draft the right guys. Did they draft the

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Speaker 1: right guy and Jalen Ramsey, Well, it depends he's not

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Speaker 1: we're not playing fantasy football or like some card game

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Speaker 1: extra guys for this. You said it last week, Tony,

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Speaker 1: you said better to go in six and ten going one,

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Speaker 1: and I said that. But my point I said that

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Speaker 1: great we have draft picks and and uh and sary cap,

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Speaker 1: did they make that they should have kept an older

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Speaker 1: I'm I want to let's make sure. I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure we're talking about too, because there's really two

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Speaker 1: Like there wasn't any and there's no one who got

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Speaker 1: can't believe they got rid of him and kept this guy.

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Speaker 1: be a guy good bad injury to one of your

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Speaker 1: key guys. It could be, um, you know, anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's an off the field issue that you don't

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Speaker 1: expect that comes in. You know, that happens, and like

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Speaker 1: how does the team go You lose a couple in

427
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Speaker 1: a row? Um, you know. So those are all moments

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Speaker 1: of adversity that are going to happen during the year

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Speaker 1: and how you how you handle it as a team.

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Speaker 1: We'll say a lot about the locker room and kind

431
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Speaker 1: of you know where you're gonna end up. But I

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Speaker 1: think what Doug saying is, um, every team has its

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Speaker 1: own personality, and you know, sometimes like it's on the

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Speaker 1: edge and like is this team gonna stick together when

435
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Speaker 1: it's not going well? So like we used to call

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Speaker 1: those like there's teams that are front runners. Like a

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438
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Speaker 1: like everything is going good and they're gonna be good,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be rolling and they're gonna be high

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Speaker 1: falls apart. And those are front runners. And you don't

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Speaker 1: like you're you're just you're perfectly describing to two thousand seventeen,

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen Jaguars. Yeah, like eighteen, I think they

445
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Speaker 1: were front runners because like, like when everything went their way,

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Speaker 1: like everything in seventeen went their way, and so like

447
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Speaker 1: they were rolling and and they were kind of a

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Speaker 1: little bit there and they were fun and they were

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Speaker 1: And then like a seven, you get the eighteen, and

452
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Speaker 1: you could kind of see some things in the training camp,

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Speaker 1: a little pickering and something started happening. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: they came out there were three and one. They're rolling

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Speaker 1: and then they go to face the chiefs and they

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Speaker 1: you here maybe a little chirping back and forth, and

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Speaker 1: like it starts falling apart. And that team fell apart

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Speaker 1: because they were front runners. They didn't have great character

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Speaker 1: in that locker room, in a great locker room where

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Speaker 1: they were in it together and they were going to

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Speaker 1: fight through it and regardless of what the situation was.

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Speaker 1: So and Doug saying he likes his team. He says

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Speaker 1: he likes the locker room, he likes the guys. And

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Speaker 1: what adversity they're they're starting the season with adversity. They

467
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Speaker 1: got six kids on the tea. I mean, yeah, they

468
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Speaker 1: don't know that. I have no idea, I think, And

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Speaker 1: this is what back in the day, as a beat guy,

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Speaker 1: I would have went around to all the veterans and

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Speaker 1: found out when they think about keeping all the kids.

472
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a story. If you're a better player.

473
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Speaker 1: That would have sidled up to Tony and he would

474
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Speaker 1: have said, I don't really want to say anything, and

475
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Speaker 1: then off the record he would give me the best

476
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Speaker 1: the money quote. He would have said, it's ridiculous we

477
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Speaker 1: have kids on this team. I can't do that story

478
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Speaker 1: today though, because you can't go in the locker room anymore. Oh,

479
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Speaker 1: I know it's hard to do. I don't know how

480
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Speaker 1: you can do that story now. Yeah, but like I

481
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Speaker 1: mean it goes to I mean, like like the question,

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Speaker 1: like if you're gonna ask the vector, like how do

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Speaker 1: you feel about all these rookies. The next question has

484
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Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, who would you have kept? If

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Speaker 1: you're going to keep these guys, well, then that would

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Speaker 1: have been the story. Then if you got to if

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Speaker 1: every better looked around and said none of those guys

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Speaker 1: that he has the story. Veterans, all on board with

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Speaker 1: the kids in the locker room, come on, beat work

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Speaker 1: one on one is easy to find the story and

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Speaker 1: make that. You can make the story. You just gotta

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Speaker 1: ask the questions. And you're right though, j P. You

493
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Speaker 1: can't go to the locker room. Are you sure that

494
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Speaker 1: hell can stand outside in the parking lot, can't you?

495
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Speaker 1: I guess at a distance. I mean it is a

496
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Speaker 1: public place. Used to stand at the park lot wait

497
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Speaker 1: for guys to come out. That was I got some

498
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Speaker 1: of my best stuff in the parking lot. Pressco was

499
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Speaker 1: known to be waiting around when practice was over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I tell that story all the time. I

501
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Speaker 1: would stand there and this guy would come out, and

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Speaker 1: that guy would come out, and this guy come out,

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Speaker 1: and I did I find out stuff? I mean it

504
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Speaker 1: was and you not only that, you got to talk

505
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Speaker 1: to you guys about stuff other than football. You know

506
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Speaker 1: you can find out what's inside a guy a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what you have to do with the peat guy.

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Speaker 1: I think that's all been lost. It's been lost because

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Speaker 1: now it's so structured. He'll talk here, he'll talk here,

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Speaker 1: he'll talk there, he'll talk there. It's hard to get

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Speaker 1: I would imagine as a peak, it's hard to get

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Speaker 1: to know players now I can see, and it's hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, it didn't didn't that you get close enough

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Speaker 1: to guys where they threatened to blow your car up, right,

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Speaker 1: Pete when that still are you from the past. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. That stuff can't happen anymore.

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Speaker 1: That stuff can't happen anymore either, because it goes viral

518
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Speaker 1: and the guy would be imprisoned. But yes, it different.

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Speaker 1: It's just different the way the NFL is now. Even

520
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Speaker 1: as a national reporter. When I go into a team,

521
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Speaker 1: and believe me, when you're a national reporter, you've got

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Speaker 1: a camera. Teams will help you out any way they can.

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Speaker 1: But you don't really get it's hard to get to

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Speaker 1: know a guy. Uh that, Well, it really is, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's a challenge. And I imagine being a

526
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Speaker 1: daily beat guy every single day becomes more of a

527
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Speaker 1: challenge for these guys because of all the structure of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was the fun part, at least for me on

529
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Speaker 1: a lot and not on not on a microphone, not

533
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Speaker 1: on the record, but you get to know the team

534
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Speaker 1: a little bit better than when are you coming back

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Speaker 1: Maybe game day for pregame show. But that's that's really

539
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Speaker 1: should start opening up again, I mean yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment, shall we will? Discuss

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Speaker 1: Boselli is not in a CIA bunker today. I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: That right, Tony? Is that accurate? Yeah? I almost forgot

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Speaker 1: What did you do? Did you play? Did you play

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Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of golf courses. Oh they don't. No, No,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I never would have thought about it like that.

635
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: I never would have thought about it like that. We've

636
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, obviously we've touched on the youth on this roster,

637
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: but then early in the show we did mention the

638
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: offensive line is the most veteran of the groups for

639
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: this Jags team was not close either. But the guys

640
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: that they starting, what's that, Pete, it's not close either

641
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: because when you look at it, but they have a

642
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Speaker 1: seven seven and what is can now? Six? Cam Robinson

643
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: and cans in a sixth? Yeah and then yeah t

644
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: sevens and experience on the interior. Well, I mean that's

645
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: supposed to be the strength, right is it? Has it

646
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: been a strength? Came three guys? Strength? No? But it's

647
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: a great point, Like, you really have a good point

648
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: that I struggle with it because I have and I've

649
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: gotten criticized for it, because I've gone to bat for

650
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: these guys and said, this is a good group. It's

651
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Speaker 1: a top ten group in the NFL, and and and

652
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: it's the same group. No changes have been made. And

653
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Speaker 1: if you look at them, I love them all as individuals,

654
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: like individually, like they're like you would think they like.

655
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Speaker 1: They've got a good group, especially with the right tackle,

656
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Speaker 1: a really good player. We were in the middle of

657
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: a discussion about the offensive line for the Jacksonville back

658
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: with US Pete Tony JP disappeared. You're here, peak hear us?

659
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Speaker 1: Can you hear us? I got you? Yeah, happened? What happened?

660
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you left us. We all left.

661
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: We're all gone talking to each other. What we were

662
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: talking about. We're talking about the offensive And then then

663
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Speaker 1: I asked you about a j Can and I said,

664
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Speaker 1: is can he's inconsistent? But is it game? The game

665
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Speaker 1: or play to play? What do you think about that? So?

666
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Speaker 1: I think a J Can is like the perfect like

667
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: picture of what like he like tells the story of

668
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: what the Jaguar offensive line is like, at times it

669
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: looks good, at times it looks really bad, and so

670
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: inconsistency makes it difficult, um to count on it. And

671
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: I think A j is like a perfect example of that.

672
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: Times you watch and he plays games, he's physical, he's good,

673
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: he's you know, athletic, you know, you love everything about him.

674
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Speaker 1: But then and all of a sudden, you watch a

675
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: couple of plays or a series or even a game,

676
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: You're like, what the heck is that? Like he's leaning,

677
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: he's reaching, he's you know, grabbing instead of bringing his feet.

678
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: Um and so. But I think that's really the story

679
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: of this offensive line Pete. Last year, like I got

680
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: so frustrated with it because at times, like you saw

681
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: glimpses of what it could be, and then at other

682
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: times you're like, oh my gosh and so um And

683
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Speaker 1: I'll say what I did. I was I think I'm

684
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: not sure JP you heard this or not, but I

685
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: was saying how this offensive line has to be the

686
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Speaker 1: unit that basically puts the team on its shoulders and

687
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: says that here we go, like they have to dominate

688
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: games if they want to win. This year, they had

689
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: the Jaguars offensive line has to be dominant. What about um?

690
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Speaker 1: Was there any if you watch any of his tape,

691
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: Tony playing guard behind can Yeah, a little bit. He's

692
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: he's a big body. He's like a big man. Like

693
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Speaker 1: I think he's has he has a chance of this league.

694
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Speaker 1: He's still learning. UM, but I like his size. Um.

695
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: You know, he looks like a powerful human being. You know,

696
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: it's so hard to tell, just practice wise, but like

697
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Speaker 1: I think he has um. He has a chance. He

698
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: has a chance to be a good offensive garden. But

699
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: not this year. You don't think he plays this year?

700
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Speaker 1: Oh you never know, I mean injury or no, outside

701
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: of an injury, no, pete, I don't think he beat Okay, yeah,

702
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: something to watch. And then of course you have Shatley

703
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: is a backup on the interior that offensive line as well.

704
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: Of course, he's been around for about twenty two years

705
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: and never plays. He'll he'll jump in there when when needed,

706
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: when there's an injury or something in the interior. He's

707
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: played some guard, he's played some center. He's a guy

708
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: that can do it. Yeah, I know he could do it,

709
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: but he I mean, it's like and my wrong, has

710
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: he's only been here? I think seven or eight years

711
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, but it seems like he's been

712
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: here since Tony played. He was he was a backup

713
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: on your line, Tonty. No, but you bring it. It's

714
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: an interesting point, Pete, from the standpoint because you don't

715
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: don't think you see this very often. I Shatley has

716
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: been on the team seven years, and I love the

717
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: great guy. But if you're have ever spent any time

718
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: with them, like literally salted the earth, just a good dude, um.

719
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Speaker 1: But you often don't see guys who just backups like

720
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Speaker 1: that's what they are, like make it for like seven

721
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Speaker 1: straight years. You usually to see a team that tries

722
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: to go younger and try to develop other guys in

723
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: those positions, and somehow Shatley just fights him off every year,

724
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: or or he becomes a stor that developmental guy becomes

725
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: a starter. He's worked a couple of years as a backup,

726
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: and then he becomes the starter for whatever reason. He's

727
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: just a career backup. But he doesn't go away, or

728
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: they'll go or they go sign the big free agent

729
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: norwell you know, and and put him in there. Right. Yeah,

730
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I like him. I'm glad Shadley's on the team.

731
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Speaker 1: He's a good dude. Well they keep They kept him,

732
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Speaker 1: Richardson and bart As, so they're an eight. They have

733
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Speaker 1: eight then, right, they didn't keep a ninth eight actors?

734
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Speaker 1: Is there nine on the roster though? Is there a ninth?

735
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Speaker 1: I don't think they did. I mean that's when I

736
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: looked at it. When I looked and saw eight, that's

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00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: what I saw. Double check here. I mean, was there

738
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Speaker 1: a young guy that they liked because they had some

739
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: young defensive players they like. They clearly kept the undrafted kid. Uh,

740
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, they don't. I think the offensive lineman

741
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: right is correct, Yes, but they kept the undrafted defensive lineman. Yeah.

742
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: And remember tell there's a little more flexibility of moving

743
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: guys off practice squad this year too. I don't know

744
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: if that changes your perspective perspective, but Tony, when you played,

745
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: I think you kept nine off the line. Uh, yeah,

746
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: we usually did eight, eight or nine? Yeah? Seven active

747
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: on game there. Um. Hey, let's see. So get to

748
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: this at some point. But I love it, Uh, do

749
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: we have it? Like? We spent a lot time on

750
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: the offense, but look at the defense. Are expensive time

751
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: talking about the defense coming up here. Well, I was

752
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna go to that in just a moment after this

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Speaker 1: reminders that you've got to get ready for the debut

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Speaker 1: her Tony's request was flipping to defense. We were going

759
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Speaker 1: there anyway. By the way, real quick, JP, how many

760
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be at the game? Fifteen thousand? Is

761
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: that what it was? I think there's are So it's

762
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen thousand in that ballpark? Is the capacity of

763
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: what do you say of their normal crowd or the stadium?

764
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: The normal crowd. They'll have fewer people than Baker County

765
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: had the other day. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Hey,

766
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: at least they have fans. Some of these teams have none. Well,

767
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: so that's the point too. It's like Thursday night will

768
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: be fans in Kansas City, but then Sunday the Jags

769
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: are the only home team with fans of the entire league.

770
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: Why is that? Is that any state deal? Yeah, you won't.

771
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: You won't have fans in California until two thousand and

772
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Speaker 1: twenty three. I think the way that state, I mean, yeah,

773
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Speaker 1: it's just weird. Like if Miami and Tampa were home,

774
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: they would have fans in the stands. Yeah, it's Florida,

775
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: right right, I'm surprising up. Letting them sell out. Let

776
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: them all in, like Alabama. It's like Alabama and Jordan,

777
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Mississippi all in. You all fans in the stands everywhere,

778
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: come hell or high water, there will be college football

779
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: in the Deep South. That's how that's gonna work. All right,

780
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: Let's start on defense here, and you know I want

781
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: to start up front, So I'm gonna start up front.

782
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: In the comment the other day that from Todd wash

783
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: Tony that Caleb and Chason is much stronger than they

784
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: I guess anticipated in training camp, and he's going to

785
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: play defensive end. That's going to be his position. He's

786
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: not going to be a linebacker at least to start.

787
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: So there are moments where you could see Alan and

788
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: chasing on the field. They feel like he's strong enough

789
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: to play maybe on that other side on the defensive line.

790
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting development. Yes, he's still a rookie,

791
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: but there's I think there maybe hoping a little bit

792
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: more that he can perform more than they anticipated. I guess,

793
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: and in his rookie year. Yeah, I guess. I mean,

794
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It all depends what kind of defense

795
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: Todd wash wants to run, which is I find ironic.

796
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: Remember all offseason everyone was convinced, I mean, all the

797
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: people and the smart people said they're going to a

798
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: three four. Sources they're going to a three four. They're

799
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: going to a three four. At least the practice I've

800
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: seen JP, it's still the same bold defense that we've

801
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: always seen. It looks like a three or four to me, Um,

802
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: you don't play seven guys in the front anyways. But

803
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: my point is saying that it's it's just it's interesting,

804
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean, which leads me to there are four three teams.

805
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Can you go with Chase On and Josh Allen in

806
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: first and second down against a two tight end set

807
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: or at one tight end set? I can Chase On

808
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: hold up and a double team between an offensive tackle

809
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: and in a tight end Are they gonna I mean, Okay,

810
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: I think my point is always used to put in

811
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: Cockway at the open debt and try to get him

812
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: away from that. Used to flip side. So Clays was

813
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: your big end and go Way was your open side.

814
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: The Well, they're gonna go with Josh Allen and Jason

815
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen's two pounds sixty pounds. Is he

816
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: now going to be your big end on the field

817
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, back in there on third down,

818
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: never on first, never on first and second down. You're right,

819
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: So don't have a big end then smooth? I mean

820
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: you can see you start smooth and he can played

821
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: the big end. You gonna remember almost your plays. You're

822
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: gonna be in the nickel. Anyways, Well, I understand that

823
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: people this team couldn't stop the run last year, So

824
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: what our team's gonna come out and do last them?

825
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: And so and then which leads to my next question,

826
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Speaker 1: is I mean tam, I mean, I know there's no

827
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: official when's the official injury report come out JP Wednesday, Wednesday,

828
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: first day, Wednesday, Thursday Friday, But we haven't seen Taven

829
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: since he had the bone bruise. Well, Doug Morone said

830
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: today in his press conference after practice that over the

831
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: weekend Haven was and he did practice today. Now there's

832
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: no status report today, obviously we'll find out for sure.

833
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: If he practiced today, he'll put it down. Okay, So

834
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: how did they line up on first down? Then, Tony?

835
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna be Avery and day Uh.

836
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Speaker 1: I mean my guess is Avery and Taven and then

837
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go Josh Allen and I Smooth

838
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: is your big end. I guess. So the guy you drafted, Okay,

839
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: if you have the three linebackers, he's not playing the

840
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: strong side spot chase at all, I guess not, and

841
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: then explained that he won't be linebacker. But that means

842
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: you you took a guy that you took in the

843
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: in the top what how many? What? What? What? What?

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Speaker 1: Where was he pick? What number was he was twenty

845
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: or whatever? Nineteen? He's not gonna be barely gonna be

846
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: on the field. Then, No, it's it's he didn't have

847
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: the same role Josh Allen did last year. Josh Allen

848
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Speaker 1: p on the snaps. He saying the snaps because he's

849
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: only on their nickel. Yeah, I think see, I think

850
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: you could have played him at the strong side linebacker.

851
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: Didn't put him on with his hand on the ground

852
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: in passing situations, they're not going to um. I just

853
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: think it's interesting. So like it, maybe Todd thinks that

854
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: they can line up with those two, you know, two

855
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: smaller ends plays a strong side when they go on

856
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: the field, they have three linebackers in the field. Who's

857
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: starting at the strong side. Then I guess is Leon

858
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Speaker 1: Jacobs mhm right, JP, Yeah, I mean that would be

859
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: that would be mine. Yeah, I personally I would have

860
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: found the way to get Chase on on the field

861
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: war particularly as a young player. Or you said the

862
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: same thing last they will I would have And I

863
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: still believe that maybe they maybe they were playing possum

864
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Speaker 1: with us. Well you're on again, You're you're nickeled seventy

865
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: almost snacks anyway, so he's gonna play. But I would

866
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Speaker 1: have found the way to get if we say that

867
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Speaker 1: if he like, don't he said, if teams ran the

868
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Speaker 1: ball under his throat, they're not gonna get the nickel. Well,

869
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Speaker 1: that's the big issue. I wouldn't say if. In my opinion,

870
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: that's a big issue. Can they get passing situations where

871
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Speaker 1: you can show off Josh Allen and Chase Song's ability

872
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Speaker 1: to get after be athletic and get to the quarterback. Well,

873
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: they run last year and he had and Josh Allen

874
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: had double digit sacks as a rookie. So I know

875
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: they have a lot of confidence in Devon Hamilton's on

876
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Speaker 1: the interior as well. And I don't I know Tony

877
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: you said earlier, you had not been out there. He

878
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: is a broad guy. He's not He's not like fluffy

879
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: like he's just built. He's a big guy. You know.

880
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of confidence what he

881
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Speaker 1: could bring. I watched I watched the Monte anybody type me,

882
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: remind you of Tony from any player or somebody big,

883
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Speaker 1: big body type like that. He's just in the big

884
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Speaker 1: square body. I mean he's just a big thick you know,

885
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Speaker 1: not like like not Chris Jones big right, No, remember

886
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Speaker 1: like he wasn't this He's not remember like Chester mcgo

887
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Speaker 1: big square block. Yeah, he's like a big thick chested

888
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Speaker 1: square Yeah, was like a he was like a fire

889
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Speaker 1: hydrant because I was like real the size of a

890
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Speaker 1: human being. He was square. Yeah. So he's a big

891
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Speaker 1: human being. JP's right, and he listen, he's gonna be

892
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Speaker 1: good against the run. He's a big physical guy. Um,

893
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Speaker 1: you know, so I think he'll be okay on first

894
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Speaker 1: a second down? Uh, how do they rotate up? How

895
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Speaker 1: does the how do the guy who plays in rotation?

896
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: I think it'll be Hamilton's Avery rotating at the one

897
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Speaker 1: technique and I think it's gonna be Jurney again and

898
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Speaker 1: uh da David a three technique and then the ends

899
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: will be smooth Chase on Alan. Yep, that's my guess.

900
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: What about Gastus does he play? Uh? Maybe maybe he's

901
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: your big ends with the big end. Yeah, you know,

902
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: he didn't look I mean he's coming off that a

903
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Speaker 1: C L and the practices that I watched, it didn't

904
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Speaker 1: look like it was all the way back. I guess

905
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Speaker 1: it would be the best way to say it. So

906
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: in other words, he didn't look at right. No, it's

907
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: just not explosive like like not like I mean, it

908
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: looked bad. He was a pretty he was a pretty

909
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: good player before the a C. I agree. I agree

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Speaker 1: that's what. He didn't look like that guy JP. You

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Speaker 1: watched him, I mean, would you agree? Yeah? I had

912
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Speaker 1: a little he was wearing a thing on it and

913
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Speaker 1: was you could tell he was maybe just not as

914
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Speaker 1: confident as he as he should be early in campidly,

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Speaker 1: M H. I've always felt like and talking to some

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Speaker 1: veterans that have been kind of going from team to team,

973
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Speaker 1: and a lot of them at times when you caught

974
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Speaker 1: them wish they could have been on the practice squad

975
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Speaker 1: and continue to develop with the team they're at. So

976
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Speaker 1: I think it's a great rule this year. I kind

977
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: of hope that we keep it that way. UM. But

978
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: to be able to give guys and add some depth

979
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Speaker 1: there and some veteran leadership, even if it's a practice

980
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Speaker 1: squad guy and guys that have been around, UM, I

981
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Speaker 1: think it's great because it's a lot easier to act

982
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: giving a guy from your practice squad on a on

983
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Speaker 1: a game week, then they have to fly somebody in

984
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Speaker 1: sign him on a Tuesday, get him acclimated in practice.

985
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Speaker 1: So our our number one goal is when we activate

986
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Speaker 1: guys and we have a need, is to get him

987
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Speaker 1: from the practice squad. And if that's a veteran guy,

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Speaker 1: even better. G M. Dave Caldwell speaking Saturday afternoon after

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00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: the cutdown to fifty three and welcome back Second Hour

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Speaker 1: around the a f C South and around the league

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00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: as well the big stories of the day though. The

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Speaker 1: final fifty three is young thirty Jaguars players and now

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00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: their third season or less in the National Football League.

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00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: But there are some key veterans obviously on this team.

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00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: Three eight year players, six different seventh year players on

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Speaker 1: the squad, and a lot of those guys are on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. The practice squad is Dave Coldwell was

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Speaker 1: referencing to. There has been announced can have six vested

1001
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: veterans on their four players can be protected each week

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00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: and as cold Well mentioned that it makes it easier

1003
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Speaker 1: for those weekly transactions. When a guy gets dinged, you

1004
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: can bring a guy from your own program in. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know we were talking. We didn't get what's that.

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Speaker 1: It's the taxi squads. You know where that came from.

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Speaker 1: It came from Paul Brown back in the day. He

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Speaker 1: kept cut down to thirty three, but he liked about

1009
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Speaker 1: another ten of his guys. So what he did is

1010
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Speaker 1: he hired UM. He had the owner of the team

1011
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: who had a taxi company, and he kept him on

1012
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: the taxi company's employee list, and then he practiced, and

1013
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: then whenever anybody got hurt, he just bring him up

1014
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: from the taxi squad. True story. That's where taxi squad.

1015
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: That's where the taxi squad comes from. How about that

1016
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: it was I guess that was legal in the league

1017
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: back then. Well he kindd of skirted the rules and

1018
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: then they made it into something where everybody could do it.

1019
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: But can you imagine a roster with only thirty three guys? Yeah? Wow, um, interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the time and we were touching

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00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: on defense and we gotta pick the season coming up

1022
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Speaker 1: to by the way, that's gonna happen here fairly soon

1023
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: here in the segment. But let's finish up our defensive

1024
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: conversation last hour. That's right, I know, I know. Um,

1025
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Speaker 1: we didn't touch on the secondary that much. We touched

1026
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Speaker 1: on safety and what they could do in place of Harrison.

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Speaker 1: They like Josh Jones. It sounds like according to Doug

1028
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Morowne today, but you look at the cornerback spot, d J.

1029
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: Hayden is a vet on the interior at corner. But

1030
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: you got some youth there too, third year player, and

1031
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon who hasn't played a lot of football in

1032
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Speaker 1: his career here and then a rookie and c. J.

1033
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Speaker 1: Henderson in the first round on the other side, and

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Speaker 1: then after that there's a lot of rookies in depth

1035
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Speaker 1: in the cornerback room. To Pete, that's a that's a

1036
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Speaker 1: lot of young guns running around, really is I mean

1037
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Speaker 1: you know what they keep? Um? Did Josiah Scott? They

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Speaker 1: kept farco Um? Is that the the only two rookie

1039
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Speaker 1: corners they kept? Yeah? I think so. But that's a

1040
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Speaker 1: young group. I mean C. J. Anderson starting Herndon is

1041
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Speaker 1: not an old guy either. I mean that the only

1042
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Speaker 1: guy there with any experience is Hayden really I mean

1043
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Speaker 1: not experienced but because heard him played last year, but

1044
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Speaker 1: real experience. So it's they're gonna be challenged early and often.

1045
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Speaker 1: And they get a Philip Rivers this week. I mean,

1046
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Speaker 1: does he know how to find corners that can pick on?

1047
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Speaker 1: Of course he does well. And here's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: mean last year, one year ago, we're sitting here and

1049
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Speaker 1: Trey Herndon was the fourth corner from this roster, and

1050
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Speaker 1: no one was thinking like, hey, we need Trey Herndon,

1051
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Speaker 1: like be like, are the guy and because of what

1052
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: happened with Jalen and all the other stuff and boy

1053
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: A leaving, now all of a sudden you look at it,

1054
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: you're starting Trey Herndon and he's the widely vette of

1055
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: the two corners because the other ones that working, um,

1056
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they are super young, not a lot of experience,

1057
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how they match up.

1058
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: And because you know, it's amazing Tony Is Wilson will

1059
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: have them, if I'm not mistaken, Wilson will have the

1060
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: most experience right beside Hayden. Then, but the four guys

1061
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: who are announced the starters, Wilson I think has the

1062
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: most experience. Yes, pretty amazing, that's amazing. And he I mean,

1063
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: like on on the on the sevent team team, he

1064
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: was like a backup, deep backup. He was a backup

1065
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: special teams guy. Yeah, barely there's questions like he would

1066
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: be like he was like the undrafted guy who made

1067
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: it like like end of the roster making it. It's amazing,

1068
01:00:54,240 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Now, if Henderson's good and Herndon improves, Hayden's

1069
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: a good nickel corner and then they'll be okay. But

1070
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: those are big questions. Those are major questions. What do

1071
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: you have questions at safety too? I mean, Jared Wilson

1072
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: was a special teams guy a couple of years ago. See,

1073
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: I always thought he would be fine if the guy

1074
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: next to him was okay. I never thought Ronnie Harrison

1075
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: was very good. I'll be honest with you, I never

1076
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: really did. I may make a big thump every once

1077
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: in a while, missed the signments, miss tackles. So I

1078
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: think if he had a really good player next to Wilson,

1079
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: I think he'd be fine. Is the too safe? You know,

1080
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: the other safety. But the problem is now, when they

1081
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: got to the other safety and and JP, you made

1082
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: it sound like that they kind of hinted that Jones

1083
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: would start there. Yeah, it sounded like it from from

1084
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: what Doug Brown said today. They love the guy there. Wow,

1085
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: it's it's the turnaround of that secondary's incredible. Well, and

1086
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing we're all since he's been also worried

1087
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: about the um up front, you know, the deepers one.

1088
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 1: When you start diving into the secondary, you're like, wait

1089
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: a second, there's a lot of questions there as well.

1090
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a lot of young guys and

1091
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: that in surprises. You know, you look around, Uh, you

1092
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: know with Ronnie Harrison not being there anymore, he's a

1093
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: guy last year going in, Hey we got a good

1094
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: safety group. Feel felt good about getting rid of Bury

1095
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: Church and uh and uh Gibson because you had Ronnie Harrison.

1096
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean, twelve months later you're trading them and getting

1097
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: rid of them because you want to go um with

1098
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: the must I mean a much younger group. Josh Jones

1099
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: actually has more experience in Ronnie Harrison correct correct, more

1100
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: years in the league. But does he have more starts

1101
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: to No, I don't let me look, I don't think so.

1102
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: But he started No, he's only started all games. Yeah,

1103
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: so just because you are in the league longer, wasn't

1104
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: you have more experienced No? Well you make that argument

1105
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: for Jared Wilson too. By the way, how many starts

1106
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: to see having his career now? No, thirty, let's say

1107
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: it's in the twenty better has more than you think

1108
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: you guys, I'll look, but yeah, it's it's it's a

1109
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: position that totally you know, the two safeties would flip.

1110
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean the ones that played in seventeen because they

1111
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: were older guys that you signed, so you knew they

1112
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: were going out. But you, like Tony said, you thought,

1113
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: you thought that Ronnie Harrison will be one of those

1114
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: safeties to take over. So last year Josh Jones was

1115
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Did he get cut or get hurt? What happened?

1116
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: I think he was a late add I think if

1117
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: I got to remember that one. Hey, by the way,

1118
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: Jared Wilson, how many starts eight yep, So that that's

1119
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: kind of the same argument for him. Well, let's uh,

1120
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: it is what I would have I thought they might

1121
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: start the rookie at safety, but they probably want a

1122
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: little more experience back there. And and if I remember right,

1123
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: Thomas had a little something during training camp injury wise,

1124
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: health wise, nothing major Daniel Thomas. We're talking about the rookie,

1125
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: so but he's obviously available on the roster and everything,

1126
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: but I think there might have been a little something there.

1127
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: Let's pick the schedule now, guys, we're gonna this is

1128
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: the one Tony loves to do because he goes on

1129
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: record and it becomes a viral moment on social media

1130
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: when Tony uh not only picks the Jaguars, in many games,

1131
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: which is great, you know, but then he doubles down

1132
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: halfway home during the middle of the season. And this

1133
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: is where it all begins though. And Tony, we'll get

1134
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: your take on. We're gonna go game by games, so

1135
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: keep telling yourselves, guys. Let's start Week one. The Jaguars

1136
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: hosts the Indianapolis Colts at t i A. Bankfield. Tony,

1137
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: what do you got, No, Pete goes first. I'm the

1138
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: star of the show, so I'll go after Pete goes.

1139
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: You're the star of the show. Are you talking about?

1140
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: There's the star of you? You're the star only in

1141
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: your own mind, I can say that. I think I

1142
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: think the Colts win. The Colts will win, and it

1143
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: will be close. I think it's gonna be that's my lock, close,

1144
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: really close. I think the heat's gonna bother the Colts.

1145
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tough situation. People in

1146
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: the crowd will get behind the Jaguars, and I think

1147
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be close. Yeah, well, it's gonna

1148
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: be interesting game. I think it's a slugfest actually, And

1149
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: I think what happens is this offensive line takes him

1150
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: to the victory and they beat up the front seven.

1151
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: I think they run it. They shocked the world um

1152
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: with the run game, much like they did in seventeen

1153
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: when they came out against the Texans. No one thought

1154
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: they could run the ball. They did, and I think

1155
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: the offensive line has a big day. Heat will be

1156
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: a factor to wear out the Colts, and Gardner Minshew

1157
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: will take him on a game winning drive at the

1158
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: end with a thirty thirty eight year yard Josh Lambo

1159
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: kicked to win by two. Wow. What I'm saying now,

1160
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing JP that he turned a flip the

1161
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: switch like like an hour and a half. I do

1162
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 1: not know what you're talking about, JP. Does ye week

1163
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars had to Disan Stadium in Nashville to

1164
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: face the Tennessee Titans. No fans in the stands here, Pete, Well,

1165
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: they played so well that place in their history that

1166
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: leads me to believe they're gonna play really well up there. Uh.

1167
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: I can't see henrt me going for two twenty again

1168
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: or something like that. Titans win it by ten. Yeah,

1169
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: I all love this matchup with the no fans I

1170
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: think works to the Jaguars benefit. I still think they

1171
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: probably I just can't get it done at Diana. I

1172
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: think they just barely lose, probably one or two point

1173
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: lost in the Titans. Well, I got a mowing too,

1174
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: you got them one in ye. All right, let's go

1175
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: to week three. It's a Thursday night nationally broadcast game

1176
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: NFL Network. The Jaguars entertained the Miami Dolphins at PM

1177
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: Eastern time. Pete, that's their first victory. They're gonna get

1178
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: it in front of the national audience. And uh, I

1179
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: think Miami still rebuilding. Who knows, maybe two is in

1180
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: by then. I think the Jaguars win that game tight,

1181
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: but the win by two or three. Now, it won't

1182
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: be close. I think Jaguars win by two or three scores,

1183
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: dominating performance. The Dolphins are gonna be the everyone after

1184
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: this game. After week three, we're gonna be asking the

1185
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: question or the Dolphins tanking and the Jags pushed for

1186
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So wait, so you have them two and

1187
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: one after three weeks, they'll be talking about the postseason

1188
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 1: in September. Based on your logic, Okay, okay, Another Thursday,

1189
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: another Thursday night game with Gardner Minshew doing this doing

1190
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: the guns on the desk. After the game on NFL

1191
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: Network j JP. If we put Tony Boselli on the

1192
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: line detective test that we're going, yeah, well, we're gonna

1193
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna play along. Let's move this along. We're fairly

1194
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: quickly here, guys. At Cincinnati Week four, pet Bengals win

1195
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: the game two and two for the Jaguars. I think

1196
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow by then will be settled in as a quarterback.

1197
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: I like the Bengals full too. Okay, Yeah, that means

1198
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are one three and one of three. That's right,

1199
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: one of three. I forgot, I got, I got. I

1200
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,520
Speaker 1: thought I was two and one. I was all discombribulated

1201
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: over your picks because I know what you really do,

1202
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: I know what you're really I can't keep up what

1203
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: you really thinking, what you're actually picking. So it's hard

1204
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: to do for jack me. Three and one. They're gonna

1205
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: come out of the first quarter of the season three

1206
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: and one, the real deal. They dominate the youthful. The

1207
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: youthful Jaguar comes or three and one going into week five. No,

1208
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: they're not as young as Joe brow Joe Burrows young too.

1209
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: You have Sella, you have the three in one, Okay,

1210
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: let's go. We're getting in October now at Houston. I

1211
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: don't think the Texans are that good. They'll hang around

1212
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: in the game, but the Texans will find a way

1213
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: to win it. With the Watson drive late. They win

1214
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: by a touchdown. How about that? Yeah? I think this

1215
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: is like, this is revenge gate. This is a big

1216
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 1: deal because Gardner feels like he got robbed. It should

1217
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: have gone for They shouldn't. They should have kicked the field,

1218
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 1: gone gone to overtime where and she would have won it.

1219
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: Last year they went for two and four, Net couldn't

1220
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: get it in mids. She wants revenge and he's gonna

1221
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: get it. They win by seven. Six weeks six, the

1222
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars host the Detroit Lions. Pete, what do you got

1223
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: for us? Quickly? I don't. I don't think they're gonna

1224
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: be able to slow down Stafford that passing game. I

1225
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: think the Lions will go in there and win the game.

1226
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: Lions win. They scored thirty three in that game. Very great. Wow, Yeah,

1227
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: I actually think I think I think Jaguars get caught

1228
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: sleepwalking a little bit. We're gonnall fold themselves at four

1229
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: and one to lead the NFC South and uh, they

1230
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: have a letdown. I think I think the Lion to

1231
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:59,520
Speaker 1: win next week. Week seven is the bye week. Jaguars

1232
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: win when then then week when the Chargers in l A.

1233
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: P Uh that Chargers defense is too good. I think

1234
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna struggle out there. They've always struggled out West.

1235
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: They'll continue to do that. Chargers win the game. Yeah,

1236
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: it's It's a definitely home field advantage for the Chargers

1237
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: because they're used to playing in front of the fans,

1238
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna be very used to Hey, they

1239
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: can say that about the Jaguars, dude, so um but no, no, no,

1240
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: derwin James hurts that team. Uh still be good on

1241
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: defense though, I think that. I think the Chargers um

1242
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: play well but not enough. I think Minshew continues his

1243
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: West Coast magic and he started last year up in Oakland.

1244
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars win Gus Bradley revenge the Jags first visit to

1245
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: so FI Stadium in l A. Week nine, Well, the

1246
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: JAG's got the revenge win apparently a few weeks earlier

1247
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: in Houston. How about at home against the Excellence Pete.

1248
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: I think they win that game. That's when those young

1249
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: kids start growing up a little bit. I think Minshew

1250
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: will have a good game. I don't believe in the

1251
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: Texans defense. I like I like the Jaguars to win

1252
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: that game. That gets their second win. So yeah, so

1253
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: you have met two and six. Yeah, right now, I'm

1254
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: five and two to it. They win, They're gonna be

1255
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 1: the talk of the of the country after the first

1256
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: half of the season. Six and two not only leave

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01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: the MC South, but a chance to have home field

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Speaker 1: advantage unbelievable. And if the Jaguars at this point are

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Speaker 1: six and two, then all of a sudden, there'll be

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Speaker 1: a lot of flexed games coming up on the schedule

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Speaker 1: because the next week the Jaguars are at lambeau Field

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Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers. Pete, what do you oh?

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Speaker 1: That's blowout city. They Rogers lights them up. Uh. They

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01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: Packers win by I'm not sure Aaron Rodgers will still

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Speaker 1: be your quarterback. Might be Drew Love or what's his

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Speaker 1: name quarterback? He's the third quarterback, by the way, he

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Speaker 1: didn't even beat out Tim Boyle. Yeah, I don't like

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Speaker 1: what's his day, Jim what's his name? Jordan ub Um? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I like the Packers again, I think it was young

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01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: Jaguar team gets a little ahead of themselves. UM probably

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01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: loses about it. Wait Field Boat game gets the Packers

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01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: over the top. Uh, two and seven. We gotta get

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Speaker 1: through the rest of these quick. We could eleven home

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Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. Pete. No, not winning that one either, Tony

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Speaker 1: always be Pittsburgh easy. Win home against the Browns the

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison revenge game, Pete, I think they win that game.

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Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars win that game and get their

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Speaker 1: third victory. The brown or fraud Jags win at the

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Speaker 1: Vikings the Unique and Gay revenge game. He might sound

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Speaker 1: the galler horn himself. Pete. Yeah, well, they've never every

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Speaker 1: time that they've gone up there, and they've had problems

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: when they're short history, and they will have more problems.

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Speaker 1: Blowout City Vikings big. Yeah, I don't like that game.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings win home against the Titans week fourteen December.

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Speaker 1: They win that game. By that time, their defense is

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Speaker 1: playing better. They'll slow down Henry. They win that game

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01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: for fourth victory. Yeah, I've been shooting the Titans. The

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01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: Titans aren't mentally tough. I think they're living off last

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01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: year's Acto legs, and I think they have a tough year.

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Speaker 1: Jags win Wow at the Ravens. Tough game in Baltimore, Pete.

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: That's ugly. Lamar Jackson will destroy them. Ugly game blow out.

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't love the matchup. I think it's

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: closer than any one thinks. But I think Baltimore gets

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Speaker 1: to win ultimate home gets the Bears in Week sixteen.

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Speaker 1: They have a legitimate chance to win that. That could

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Speaker 1: be Nick Foles Revens game by then. Um, I still

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Speaker 1: think they win. That's a game they win at home.

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Speaker 1: They win that game, Oh, the no brainer. They win

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Speaker 1: that game, especially if Nick Folds is starting. And then

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Speaker 1: weeks seventeen, Jags at the Colts Pete, Well, the Colts

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: will be playing for the division and seeding. The Genuards

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01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: will be playing for nothing. Colts win it five and eleven.

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Speaker 1: Where what do I have met right now? JP? I've

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Speaker 1: lost track totally think you have right around right now? Yeah,

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I'm moving for so far. So

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01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: this will be a game that will be on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, just so you know, because the winner, the

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Speaker 1: winner wins the division. The loser goes to the wild card.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a little too much for Minshew

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: and his crew. I think they end up losing and

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01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: end up at eleven and five, so they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to travel the wild card path to get to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Tony. Yeah, yep. If they get to eleven wins,

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Speaker 1: it will be one of the greatest football miracles of

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Speaker 1: all time. There's no chick Okay, what do you think

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01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: the odds and the Jaguars eleven games in. I don't

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01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: think you can even get that, Pat bro Oh my god,

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01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: eleven If that's JP, this is the worst he's ever

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: been with this stuff. What do you feel listing? If

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: they winning every he gets extended. Get ready? That's right?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean there's no chance if they went

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Speaker 1: eleven and five and went through the playoffs, which will

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Speaker 1: never happen, then everybody would come back, right and Minshew

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Speaker 1: would clearly be your quarterback in the future. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: counting on maybe. Oh my god, let's come back. We

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Speaker 1: Tony Baselli. Glad you're along with us. I hope you're

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Speaker 1: having a nice holiday. Let's get into the social questions today, fellas.

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Speaker 1: Let's start off with at traffic of Jason. How's the

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01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: offensive wine looking this year? Health and talent wise? Tony

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01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: want to take this one. Yeah, health is good. I

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01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: mean they really have anything in camp, so, I mean

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Speaker 1: they're healthy. That's some good news. Um, they are talent wide.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think I said it earlier. Individually, I

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Speaker 1: think they had talent. Can they pull together? Can they

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Speaker 1: be consistent? That's gonna be the big test for them

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01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I agree. Again, it's all about Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson for me. If he takes the next step, they

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01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: should be pretty good on the offensive line. I think

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Speaker 1: Taylor is gonna be a big time player, but consistency

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Speaker 1: from week to week and play to play has to

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Speaker 1: be better across the ward. Yeah, move along, social sense,

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Speaker 1: we'll find out less than a week from today. The

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Speaker 1: next question from at flash Ta ta, Why do people

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Speaker 1: assume it's a good decision to draft Trevor Lawrence when

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01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: the old line is still a problem. Obviously this person

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01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: things differently than than what you do. Tell me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you have the first overall pick, the

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Speaker 1: reason you picked Trevor Lawrence is because he's the best

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Speaker 1: player we're assuming, I mean, based on everything we know today,

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Speaker 1: he will be the best player in all of college

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Speaker 1: football and possibly a generational quarterback in most people's minds.

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Speaker 1: So that's why you picked him, pretty easy. And the

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks cure your ills, and and if you have

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Speaker 1: ills on defense and it was on offense, they will

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Speaker 1: cure him for you. So to pick a quarterback, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree that the one the one position they can't

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01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: cure completely is the offensive line. But Brady helped make

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Speaker 1: his offensive line and Peyton, right, I agree with that, right,

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01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: get the ball out, well, you know help yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the other argument to those is Indie right, they

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Speaker 1: didn't give him enough help on that old line and

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Speaker 1: he got banged up and beat up and out of

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Speaker 1: the league and what seven years? Oh Andrew Luck, Andrew Luck. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he got beat up pretty good early in

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Speaker 1: his career there. But like for example, I'll go back

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Speaker 1: to the Colt offensive line to Peyton was there. Tark

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Speaker 1: Land was a pretty good player, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: and Jeff Saturday is pretty good center, but for the

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Speaker 1: most part, that was just a group made up of

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Speaker 1: guys well and New and New England is New England

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Speaker 1: ever had really really dominant offensive lineman Tony No, but

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Speaker 1: good ones did really well coach a scheme that correct,

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Speaker 1: Like Matt Lighte was a good player, and they were

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Speaker 1: good players. They weren't dominant players. The ball got out quick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you look at how that whole system was

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Speaker 1: built around Peyton Um Howard Mudd who just recently passed

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Speaker 1: I mean, everything was in concert together, meeting like the

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Speaker 1: depth of Peyton's drops, how they set they knew the

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Speaker 1: ball is gonna be out. You know, we wanted to

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Speaker 1: protect him inside out Um. And so yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's great quarterback play. A offensive coordinator and offensive line

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Speaker 1: coach that are in uh, working in tandem, which would

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Speaker 1: shock people. Doesn't always happen, uh, And so the combination

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Speaker 1: made them you know, good players played great together. That

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Speaker 1: was my whole point, Pete about this offensive line, Like

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Speaker 1: the offensive lot isn't always just about great individual talent.

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Speaker 1: It's how the five worked together and play together in

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Speaker 1: the system. You know what's funny that when we talk

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Speaker 1: about the offensive lines and the great teams and stuff.

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Speaker 1: If you go back, can look at with the great

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Speaker 1: the teams with great quarterbacks. For example, when Elway was

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Speaker 1: in Denver, he had Gary Zimmerman, which was a really

1454
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: good but he didn't have them all the time. Tony Jones, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his life was pretty good. Yeah, Nalen, Yeah, his line

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Speaker 1: was pretty good. Was a good player, Bill Jim Kelly

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Speaker 1: had a great offensive lie by the way, Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: Harris Barton just he's a polo. I mean, you'd go

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Speaker 1: he had a good offensive line. Tryan Quill in the

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Speaker 1: center was a good player. Yeah, he had Montana. There

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Speaker 1: were good most of the good teams, the really good

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Speaker 1: teams have good offensive Our next question from at dari eleven,

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01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 1: what exactly does the mic communicate prior to the snap

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01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: of the ball. In addition, what is being said to

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01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: him from the sideline into his helmet speaker. Well, the

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01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: mike is the middle linebacker for anyone who doesn't know

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01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: the terminology, but where the linebackers go is Mike's mental

1469
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: will is weak side and sam and strung side linebacker. Um.

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01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: The mic or middle linebacker usually as the coach to

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01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: quarterback um in his helmet as long as he's an

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01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: every down linebacker. So sometimes it's the will linebacker because

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01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: he's more of a he might be on the UH.

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01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: They might take the mic out if he's not a

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01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: guy who can play in sub third down packages. Anyways,

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01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: whoever ends up having to UH the headset is being

1477
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 1: told what defensive coverage or a defensive front defensive coverage,

1478
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: So what's the defensive play they want to play on

1479
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: that calling that play, and that's what he's gonna getting

1480
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: to the rest of the team. Does Showbert something? Linebackers

1481
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,839
Speaker 1: have the ability to change it at the last second,

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01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, like based on what happened, like change the

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01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: coverage or something that. Will he have that? I'm sure

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01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: you will, Oh yeah, based on yeah, yeah, you have

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01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: rules based on if they go by three by one

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01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: and we're in you know, we're in a cover three

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01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: and they go three and by what we wanted, it's

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01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 1: gonna be automatic, go to cover four. You know what's

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01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: interesting about that, Tony, we hadn't really talk much about

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01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: show Bert. What what have you seen from him as

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01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: a middle linebacker? I mean what I saw in Cleveland smart,

1492
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: athletic and run, not a thumper, didn't pass coverage, you know,

1493
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: solid player he was. He was a pretty good player

1494
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Not a great player, but it's pretty good player.

1495
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: Good in coverage. Um yeah, so hell, But he's not

1496
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: a thumper. Beat No, he will, which is a problem

1497
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: if the teams start running on you, that's a problem.

1498
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: But he he will make jack a better player. I

1499
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: think I think that works two ways because I think, well,

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01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: Jackson a better position. First and foremost, I think that's

1501
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: his position. I always thought it was his position. You

1502
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: didn't basically, I sure I knew now because it wasn't Mike. Well,

1503
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't Mike, and it wasn't a strong side. Remember

1504
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: when he played the strong side. That was so masterly

1505
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: what we're saying, we're hoping it's a position that if

1506
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: it's that, there's nothing left. Well, yeah there is. It's

1507
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: a bench. But he's a weak side linebacker who needed

1508
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: to I don't know I thought he I don't. He

1509
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: wasn't big enough to thump in the run game, that

1510
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: was for sure. He's a big dude. He's big, but

1511
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: he don't pay. You don't play big. I don't think

1512
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 1: that's his issue. What he got lost at times? It

1513
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: looked like to me he got lost in the middle linebacker.

1514
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: So maybe it was just too much. I mean maybe,

1515
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was overwhelming for him all that.

1516
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just didn't look like he was

1517
01:28:53,040 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: ever comfortable. I will say this, maybe that was around

1518
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 1: him all right. Well, if he doesn't play well, will

1519
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: linebacker that he's woefully overpaid? How about that? That's an

1520
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: accurate statement. Let's get to our final question from at

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01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Polster thirty eight. Do you think Channa will play running

1522
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: back at all? And who gets the most series at

1523
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: running back Sunday? No, you will not play running back

1524
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: Um Robinson. I think Thompson will get the most snaps,

1525
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: Robinson will get the most carries. That's what I think. Wow, Wow,

1526
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie coming in hot, coming in hot. Baby, you're

1527
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: good things about him. I haven't seen him, but I

1528
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: hear good things about him. What do you That's why

1529
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: I love when people say that you're a good thing.

1530
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: What has he done? It's been too hand touch on

1531
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: the practice field and like what hey, after the first

1532
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: practice you told me that one of your draft picks

1533
01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: couldn't play a lick and that was in this miniki.

1534
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: So you you do. I can tell. I'm an expert,

1535
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: did you not? Is that not a true story? True story?

1536
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: And was that not right? You were that right? Were

1537
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: you in pads By when you said that? No, he

1538
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: was in a minicamp Tony, So you can tell. So

1539
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: I just just just throughout your theory right there. You

1540
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 1: can tell as long as it's someone as smart as

1541
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: I am that told you that you did that. You

1542
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: did that more than once too. By the way, I

1543
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: was never wrong ever, and I know you weren't. I

1544
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: would give you credit for that. I could tell, by

1545
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: the way. Chris Thompson the other day said that Robinson

1546
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: has the best vision of the visit group. At least

1547
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 1: right now. We don't didn't have any vision. He's no longer.

1548
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: There are shots of a guy back in a moment.

1549
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: He is in Tampa. Back in a moment. We'll go

1550
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Speaker 1: around the an f C South. We stuff go around

1551
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Speaker 1: You know. I think people see it from Afar and

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Speaker 1: see all they're losing their biggest names. But that's not

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01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 1: how we feel. Um and I mean realistically, I know

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01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 1: if we if we're taking you know, coach Ron Uh,

1611
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell and me are probably gonna be out of jobs.

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Speaker 1: So I know us three and a lot of those

1613
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 1: other guys in locker room are not gonna let that

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01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: crap happen. Um, so I feel very confidently and everybody's

1615
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: desire to win, and uh, that's absolutely not anything that

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Speaker 1: you know, we envisioned happening. Gardnerment to the second Jaguars

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Speaker 1: I love Gardener Mido when he says stuff like that, well,

1627
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 1: if we don't win, I'm out of a job. John

1628
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: Domes out of the job. He just puts it out there.

1629
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: Most quarterbacks wouldn't do that. Well, we have, you know,

1630
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 1: we talked about guys we've been talked about about Gardner

1631
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: min he's your starter. You got a backup six round

1632
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: of from Oregon State. Jake Luton is the backup by

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01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: the way, back up look pretty good. You can spending

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01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: j Okay great, but he's still a rookie. Yeah. So

1635
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: they got a second year player who started part of

1636
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 1: the season last year in a sixth round rookie. It's

1637
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's incredible, But why why bother with Glennon?

1638
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: What's Glennon gonna do? I don't know, not practice? You

1639
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: don't usually go yeah, okay, I wasn't there. You were

1640
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 1: were you? JP? You? You were there? Did Luton out

1641
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 1: played Glennon? Yes? On the tape? Did I think so? Absolutely? Well,

1642
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: then that's why you keep him. I'm not saying that people.

1643
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 1: Usually you have a backup play who has starts in

1644
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: this league that you feel I can come in and

1645
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: get you to a game. At least. Now you're one

1646
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 1: with the rookie who has never played a dank snap

1647
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: with no preseason pete. Think about this. If the kid

1648
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: has to go in, it's gonna be a regular season

1649
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: game for the first game he's ever played in the NFL. Yeah,

1650
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: But then they can also bring glennon if they had to,

1651
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 1: they can bring Glennon up. And so I'm not I

1652
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: get that, but I like, listen lout out play them.

1653
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: I'll give I'll agree with JP on that um. And

1654
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: I think that's what Doug and Davis saw. And he said,

1655
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: you know what, with the practice squad rules the way

1656
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: they are, if something happens, Luke can get us through

1657
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: the game and then we can bring up GLENNI from

1658
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 1: the practice squad and put them on active roster. And

1659
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 1: that's the question. Did any of the young kids who

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01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: made the roster get out played by somebody that should

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Speaker 1: have made the roster? And and we touched on it earlier,

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Speaker 1: you can't said did any of the youth for players

1663
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: who made the team get out played by a young guy,

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Speaker 1: older guy that let go because he was older? No?

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Speaker 1: Right there, So keep the young guys? What did the

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Speaker 1: around the league. Obviously, the Houston Texans spent some money

1738
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 1: Pete this week quarterback to Shawn Watson. It's a four year,

1739
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 1: one hundred sixty million dollar extension. This is huge money

1740
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 1: and after four years of probably three years, it can

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Speaker 1: renegotiate maybe for something even bigger than that. And look,

1742
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Speaker 1: you have to keep that guy if you have him.

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Speaker 1: But let's be honest about it. He's never thrown more

1744
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Speaker 1: than twenty six touchdown passes in the season and they've

1745
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 1: had some playoff failures as well, so it might seem

1746
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: like it it's a tad high, particularly when you compare

1747
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Speaker 1: it for the first four years to Patrick Mahomes contract.

1748
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Speaker 1: But you have to keep that guy, and you know

1749
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Speaker 1: how quarterback deals work. Next guy up, next guy up,

1750
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: next guy up. So I kind of get it, but

1751
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 1: now go earn it because twenty six touchdown passes is

1752
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: not enough of Deshaun Watson well pete. But it's a

1753
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 1: four year extension, so he saw us to work. He

1754
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: saw us to play out his next two years of

1755
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: his rookie deal. So he's still in a contract for

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01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 1: six years, not four jp um. And so you're looking

1757
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 1: at six years, and with his rookie deal, it's probably

1758
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: six years what hundred and seventy million dollars more like

1759
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 1: it if he's averaging five the last two years of

1760
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: his rookie contract um. So it's not quite the eye

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01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: popping I mean, it's still a great deal of I'll

1762
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 1: gon be wrong, but it's not like he's averaging thirty

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01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 1: nine years the average. I think we're a little bit

1764
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: less even. But anyways, they have they have under contract.

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01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: It's a lot of guaranteed money. I think a hundred

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01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: and ten of its guaranteed um. But they have under

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01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 1: they have under contract for six years. Now is he

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Speaker 1: Here's the question. Is he elite? He's on borderline from me.

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01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 1: He has the ability. At times he looks elite. Um

1770
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: times he holds the ball too long for me and

1771
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: makes some uh silly decisions. Um, but I think he's

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01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 1: at that. Um. So I'm making up numbers. Let's say

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01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 1: there's five elite. He's that. He's at the next stage

1774
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 1: five to ten, like he is on the verge of

1775
01:44:54,880 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 1: having an opportunity. He's not. No, I didn't think Aaron

1776
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers very good the last couple of years. But Aaron

1777
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 1: Rodgers through twenty six and four last year, So I didn't.

1778
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 1: I said Aaron Rodgers better, Pete. I mean I know

1779
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,719
Speaker 1: you love Rodgers. So but I said he's better. Okay,

1780
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: big deep breath. He's not. I mean he's certainly not.

1781
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 1: Russell will city that Aaron Rodgers um like he's mating staff. Yeah. Yeah.

1782
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 1: If you said that in a public forum, people would

1783
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Speaker 1: kill you. Why is he? Is he better than Matt Ryan?

1784
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's been m v P of this league. I

1785
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: mean it's been a public forum, Pete. This is a

1786
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 1: public isn't it? Okay? But Tony hides here, Like if

1787
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Speaker 1: you put that on Twitter and get destroyed. Put it

1788
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: on on Twitter that Matt Stafford is better than des

1789
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 1: I didn't say Matt Jeter is better or as good

1790
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: as DeShawn Watson. I agree with They're all in that

1791
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:02,679
Speaker 1: next category, right, there's only a couple of elite. Yeah,

1792
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 1: get me, Like, who's elite? Is Tom? Tom Brady and

1793
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 1: Drew Brees still elite? I gree uh close? Uh? No?

1794
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Is so right now? The only elite out The only

1795
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 1: elites out there are mahomes and and Wilson, Like bona

1796
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Speaker 1: fide by guys. That was like, yeah, yeah, And I

1797
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: would say Lamar Jackson he's right there too, but we

1798
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: might have to win a playoff game first, fair enough,

1799
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: But I mean he's special in my opinion. I like

1800
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson a lot. Let's move to the Tennessee Titans.

1801
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: They signed Jadeveon Clowney one year up to fifteen million

1802
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 1: dollars and no franchise tag next year, and apparently news

1803
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 1: this afternoon a story came out of the apparently the

1804
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Jags attempted a sign and trade deal. Pete, you know

1805
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 1: what any thinking about that? I knew they were they

1806
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 1: were interested, but I didn't know to what degree. Ok,

1807
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: but I think they were gonna trade. No, they're gonna

1808
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 1: trade him to Fall Yeah, but then you get cap

1809
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: room that way, right, training your way from him. Yep.

1810
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: So no, you're trading for picks, you take cap right, Thanks,

1811
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: But the league said they couldn't do it. Well, the

1812
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: Saints tried to do it with Cleveland and couldn't do it.

1813
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:34,839
Speaker 1: That's right. But here's the thing. A clowney names over games.

1814
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,839
Speaker 1: Games over names, right, and so it's that's some reason

1815
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 1: everybody gets it wrong. He's not an elite player. He's

1816
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,799
Speaker 1: a good player. He plays hard, he's tough, he's physical,

1817
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: but he doesn't rush the pastor that. Well, come on,

1818
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 1: think about this. If you were an elite pass rusher,

1819
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 1: would you be on the market until a week before

1820
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: the season starts. Would you be on your third team? No,

1821
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 1: he's not. I don't think he's an elite pass rusher.

1822
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 1: But I think I probably think more highly of him

1823
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: as a football player than you do because he messes

1824
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: things up for offenses. He's physical, he's all over the place.

1825
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: He just messes things up. Okay, but Seattle has a

1826
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: glaring need for a guy to do that. They only

1827
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 1: offered him ten million dollars a year. Why we have catfish.

1828
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 1: He was number one, Okay, Houston sent him packing in

1829
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: large park because Bill Brian didn't like him. But he

1830
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: never thought he could win consistently on the edge. Well

1831
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 1: he's not He's not a great passion. So I agree

1832
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: with you there. So he's not worth He's not worth

1833
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:36,839
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen seventeen million dollars season, but I think thirteen

1834
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 1: to fifteen millions of fair number. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna

1835
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: get He got twelve. Right, he got the same amount

1836
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 1: of money as a Dockway got. But he's got She

1837
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 1: has to earn more back with him sentives. That's right,

1838
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: that's right. That's right. By the way, the Indianapolis Colts

1839
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 1: placed our good friend or former draft pick here in Jacksonville,

1840
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 1: Sheldon Day on injured reserve. As look around the a

1841
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 1: f C south Um Quick Power rankings in the division

1842
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 1: before Week one. Well, I know how I'm going, but

1843
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: Tony's has gotta be reflected his record. So I got

1844
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: the Colts one, the Titans to the Texas three, and

1845
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 1: the Jaguars four. Jagspectives go into the wild card berth

1846
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 1: apparently to let's go around the National Football League now

1847
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:42,440
Speaker 1: a waiver claims down this year. NFL Networks Tom Pallisero

1848
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: reported that over the past ten years, the average number

1849
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 1: of posts cut down waiver claims league lie was about

1850
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: forty one and the lack of preseason games and some

1851
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:55,599
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1852
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 1: team were claimed this year. Pete, that's down a lot.

1853
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: It's different, and you're gonna see a lot of shuffling

1854
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 1: of rosters throughout the season because okay, let's say, uh

1855
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 1: the j Wars keep they kept two of those young

1856
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: kids at the end, and then they play a little bit,

1857
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 1: whether it be on special teams or whatever, and they

1858
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 1: can't handle it. Then you don't you don't know what

1859
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: they can do in a game. So maybe they won't

1860
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 1: be able to handle a game. Maybe they freeze up

1861
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 1: on game day. Tony, Ever, play with a guy who

1862
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 1: froze up on game day. You look great practice, but

1863
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: game day came and he froze up. You know these

1864
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 1: guys will do I want to say guys froze up.

1865
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: But you definitely have guys who can do it on

1866
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 1: the practice field, but can't translate it to the game field.

1867
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 1: That's freezing up. It's that freezing up in practice. It's

1868
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 1: scripted like you know the situation, like okay, it's one

1869
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 1: on one pass rushes, you know this, Like you have

1870
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: to like in game days war, you have to react.

1871
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: You have to be able to handle the game situation.

1872
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: And some guys can't do that. Skype feats froze up today.

1873
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Speaker 1: Me and Tony had like off air conversations why j

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Speaker 1: B was frozen in time. Let's move along here. Ryan

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick is the Week one starter for the Dolphins against

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Not to uh, of course, how about this pete.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick was a seventh round pick and oh five

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Speaker 1: out of Harvard. Of course. Including the eight million dollars

1879
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: he's do this year, Fitzpatrick will have made over seventy

1880
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 1: one million dollars in his career. That's incredible. Remember when

1881
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 1: remember when Buffalo gave him the big extension. I remember

1882
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:40,600
Speaker 1: writing the whole thing saying what a mistake that was,

1883
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 1: and it proved it's proven to be that. Look, he's

1884
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: a good I call him the helium balloon because his

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01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:46,679
Speaker 1: ball stays in the air for a week and a half.

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01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 1: But he's actually proven to be a pre decent quarterback.

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01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 1: He should be a backup. He should be a long

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01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: time backup, is what he should be. Miami's gonna be

1889
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 1: caught a situation. What if they're competitive a little bit,

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01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 1: then they play him the entire season. You don't want that.

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01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 1: You want to get on the tour. You want to

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01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: get through that as fast as you can. But if

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01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 1: they're competitive, I think he stays in there. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Fitzpatrick fits Magic. It's magic, great story. But

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01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a strong backup. He'd be a

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01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 1: great backup on your roster um and but he's made

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Speaker 1: the most of his situation on the opportunities that he's had,

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01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: and I take my hat off to him. Speaking of

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01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 1: strong backup, Smith Robinsky is the starting quarterback for the

1900
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: Bears and Nick Foles is the backup in Chicago. Pet

1901
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Speaker 1: I don't know. We had a conversation on our show

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01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:41,560
Speaker 1: the other day about that. I don't know if you

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01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 1: guys saw the clip they sent out where I said,

1904
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter and either one of them said he could.

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01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: Neither one of them is a good quarterback. I'm sorry,

1906
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 1: it's it's still Nick Foles. God bless you have the

1907
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 1: greatest aberration season or playoff run in history. You aren't

1908
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: very good If you can't beat up Mr Robinsky, you

1909
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: clearly are very good, and Mr Whisky is not very good.

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Speaker 1: So who cares who starts? Can you imagine that in

1911
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears than traded up, gave up draft capital to

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01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: go get Mitchell Jobisky when Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes

1913
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 1: were there on the board. Was his best taking your

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01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 1: running back forth overall in that draft? Yeah? But Ryan?

1915
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Does Ryan Pace get any criticism for that? I mean yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I think don't you think that's the reason why

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Speaker 1: Drabinsky starting Whether I don't know the competition, but maybe

1918
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: he played because he knew the offensive, but he knows

1919
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: the offense too Folds because he played in it before.

1920
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Speaker 1: Don't I just think there's sometimes Look, if Pace picked

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01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,839
Speaker 1: Drabinsky had made the movie to go get it, Naggy

1922
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: Pace or tied to Drabinsky. So if Drabinsky doesn't play, well,

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01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 1: they're all out anyways. If they play Folds and they

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01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: don't play, they're all out anyway. So you might as

1925
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: well take your shot with Jabinsky. Yeah crazy, let's be

1926
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 1: honest about it. You're not very nice thought around the league.

1927
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: The Raiders sent in third round picked Lynn Bowden and

1928
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick to the Dolphins in return for

1929
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 1: a fourth round picked uh. He said it was a

1930
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 1: football decision, only, Pete. That's pretty rare. You trade a

1931
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 1: guy you've picked in this draft before he's played a game. Man,

1932
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 1: stories come out. There wasn't a football decision. He's had

1933
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 1: some He had a hard life, the kid, and so

1934
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 1: when he got to Vegas, they thought he was more

1935
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 1: concerned about what was going on away from football, and

1936
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Speaker 1: they felt he might be And I didn't know this

1937
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: for a fact, but I read it where he might

1938
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: be a banded influence on Henry Ruggs and and Brian Edwards,

1939
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: the two young receivers that actually are going to start

1940
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. I think that was a bad situation.

1941
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: So that's why it ended up that way. Yeah, receiver

1942
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 1: and then quarterback, and they hadn't had a running back.

1943
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 1: That was dumb that he's a pretty slot receiver. That's

1944
01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 1: what he should all right, guy as well done. Next week,

1945
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Speaker 1: we'll be recapping the Jaguars Week one performance against the

1946
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 1: Indianapolis coult We'll see you then, Pete Tony the Pete Frisco,

1947
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli on JP Jagrick We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network