1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Our two. Welcome in. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be, 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Oh whatever, I'll take you right now. You eat with 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: your eyes before you eat with your mouth. I'm not 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: eating a blue sour patch kid, I'm not eating blue food. 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: And J Mack goes yellow and I'm like, well, that's 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: a lemon orange orange. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: When I used for full. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: Straves, I get the pack of Skittles, I take out 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 4: the orange and yellow and get into my kits and 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: my I love that cover, only the red. 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: You all the same. 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: I don't get skittles. 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 5: That knew it. 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 4: No, No, we did skittles, Like, close your eyes, put 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: the skittle in your mouth. What flavor is it? 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: And I hasty because I'm good at that. Sally ranswers 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: Skittles gotta be air. 25 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: Some people are whine. Sam Aliet's you're good on skittles. 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: That sounds about right. 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: So I was thinking about this. So the Cowboys, it's 28 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: so crazy. They gave up a fourth round pick for 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, who Kyle Shanahan's like, not gonna work. They 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: gave up a fifth and a sixth round pick for 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, who I kind of like, a fourth and 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: a seventh for Jonathan Mingo, which I said, as they 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: did that ridiculous. They traded a third and a fifth 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: round pick for George Pickens, which is too much for me, 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: and a sixth round pick. I would not have given 36 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: up that much for Pickens. But they they treat draft 37 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: picks like office supplies, like, oh, you lose a pen, 38 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: let's just order some more. There's a reason the best 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: teams accumulate draft picks, because it's a volume game. Drafting 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: is an inexact science. Fifty five percent of the guys 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: never pan out. And that's I mean, they're they're I 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: mean the Rams have done almost the possible. Every defensive 43 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: pick the last two years has worked. And there are 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: guys like John Snyder in Seattle, Jason lytton Tampa, Howie 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Roseman who hit on their picks. Howie Roseman, though, whiffed 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: on a Stanford receiver. That TCU receiver in the first round. 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Who's bounced around the league? The great guys wh So 48 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to accumulate the most picks and just play 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: the math game, the volume game. So like San Francisco 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: this year, at eleven picks, if you could get five 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: to contribute, that's about the league average. And we think 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the Niners are better run than most teams. So the 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys giving up all these picks for George Pickens. He 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: is a volatile player that the Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin said, 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I've had enough. By the way, how has Deontay Johnson 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: been since he left Pittsburgh? How was Levian Bell when 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: he left Pittsburgh? How was ab when he left Pittsburgh? 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Generally speaking, when Mike Tomlin says see you later, it 59 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: doesn't work out well. So if I had to pred 60 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: what would happen is that Ceedee Lamb is gonna get 61 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: the twelve targets in the nine catches and Pickings will 62 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: throw a tantrum by about week seven or eight and 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: won't like it. I do think he's really talented, but 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: drafting is such an inexact science to just be giving 65 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: away all these picks. I mean, take the Rams for instance. 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: I'll use them again. They got Puka Nakua in the 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: fifth round. Look at Puka Nikua's production, and they pay 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: him a million dollars a year. This league is built 69 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: on paying four positions quarterback, left tackle, defensive lineman, weapon, 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and then having cheap labor. If you don't nail some fourth, fifth, 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: and sixth round picks. If you go look at the 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks near dynasty, Pete Carroll was nailing fourth, fifth, six, third, 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: seventh round picks. The Rams have done that. On defense, 74 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: they had an undrafted guy last year ended up being 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: a really good safety. You gotta do that. So it's 76 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: just a numbers game. It's a math game. So I 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: don't I don't really understand what they're doing. I really 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: don't get it. The other thing, well, I will go 79 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: too far into that. So if you've not heard, is 80 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Rachel here yet. One of the things that the story 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: now is Steph Curry. It's going to basically miss the 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: next three games. I think Golden State can win one 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: of those home games because I think their culture and 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: coaching and defense is so strong that they'll just muddy 85 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: up and ugly up a game. Game two is going 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: to Minnesota. They had no energy last night. They'll play 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: with great energy in game two tomorrow. And with that, 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: Rachel Nichols now is joining us here in the Herd 89 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: on our set. It is great to see Rachel as always. Yeah, 90 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean I used the example earlier. Remember Aaron Rodgers 91 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: first game of the Jets, he got hurt. Zach Wilson 92 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: comes in the Bills, have no idea what he is 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: and he wins the game. Last night, It's like, we 94 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: didn't prepare for the Warriors without Steph. So you know, 95 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: it's like, well, buddy healed his Steph. And so I 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: do think there are moments where you can come losing 97 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: a star. But if I get a plan a series 98 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: without staph, does it feel like to you the Warriors 99 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: are done well? 100 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 6: First of all, report just came out while you guys 101 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 6: have been on the air that Steph is going to 102 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 6: miss at least a week. 103 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and so that's three games. 104 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 6: That's that's a lot of games. First of all, look, 105 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 6: I'm not sure it was, Hey, we didn't plan for 106 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 6: not Steph. I think that Minnesota's offense has been pretty disorganized, 107 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 6: not just this game, but the last game of the 108 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 6: Laker series. 109 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 7: And in fact, it speaks to boy that game five. 110 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 6: The fact that they even won that thing when they 111 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 6: had such a bad. 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 7: Three point shooting night and then again last night, the worst. 113 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 6: Combined three point shooting over two games and NBA history. 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 115 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 6: I mean, that's not a Steph's not here problem, right, 116 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 6: So part of it is just disorganization. The transition game 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 6: was bad. Chris Finch after the game called it diabolical. 118 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 6: Our transition was diabolical. I mean that when your head 119 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 6: coach was out saying that kind of stuff. I think 120 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 6: a lot of it, too, was just guys being disrupted 121 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 6: by the fact that you are playing a Warriors team 122 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 6: that has a multiple time All Defensive player in Jimmy Butler, 123 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 6: a multiple time All Defensive player in Draymond Green. He 124 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 6: also also Defensive Player of the Year, also considered one 125 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 6: of the best defenders in NBA history. They're not used 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 6: to that after what they saw in the Lakers series, 127 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 6: which was not a strong defense with a huge hole 128 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 6: in the middle of it. So this is an adjustment 129 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 6: for the Timberwolves. Regardless of the Steph Curry of it all. However, 130 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 6: as you just said, I expect an answer, big response 131 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 6: in Game two because I think Anthony Edwards has been 132 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 6: challenged by his head coach and by the Warriors, and 133 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 6: I think that now that they can know that Steph 134 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 6: Curry isn't going to be there, they know that they 135 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 6: have the chance to take the series by the throat, 136 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 6: and I expect them to try. 137 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: So it's interesting with ant. I'm a defender of him. 138 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: I do think the world has changed. Where you got 139 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: a season Chris Paul or a Ewing or I mean 140 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: almost every great Tim Duncan where they came and as men. Yeah, 141 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: tough college coach. And I've said this, I said this 142 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: last hour, Rachel. When you go to the G League, 143 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: never play in a pressurized situation and you don't plan 144 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: in front of big crowds. So you know, Aunt's one 145 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: year at Georgia. He at least gave it a shot. 146 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: But there's those who have said he could have. It 147 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: was a bad draft and you just took him. But 148 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: there's always been this he's a bit immature. And I 149 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: don't mind bad shooting nights, but when you come in 150 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: with no energy and you lose staff and you don't 151 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to go. Okay, guys, we're young and rested. 152 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: They're old, tired and no staff. I thought it was 153 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: a real It was a real dud by Aunt. 154 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, there's no question it was. 155 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 6: He missed his first ten shots extending into the second half. 156 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 6: He have one point in the first half, and again 157 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 6: his coach called him out on it after the game. 158 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 6: He's twenty three years old. I just think we do 159 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 6: have to keep remembering that. So, yes, he is going 160 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 6: to have some immature nights. He's not there yet. He's 161 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 6: not seasoned as a twenty six year old would a 162 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 6: thirty year old or even a thirty seven year old, 163 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 6: which is what Steph Curry is. He's got a long 164 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 6: runway still there. So yes, sometimes these nights happen. We'll 165 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 6: have to see if he can learn his. 166 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 7: Way out of it. As they said, look terrible. 167 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 6: And I would also say this because I thought you 168 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 6: mean some really interesting points about the G League. 169 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 7: I completely agree with you. 170 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 6: It's not providing those guys with these clutch time situations. 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 6: I have long said that the NBA, which is currently 172 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 6: still talking about should we remove the first year age 173 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 6: limit thing again and go that you could go straight 174 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 6: back from high school. 175 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 7: It should go the other way. Yes, they should. 176 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 6: Require people to spend two years doing something college basketball, 177 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 6: playing in a league. Guys who have come out of 178 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 6: the Australian League after playing a couple of seasons. 179 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 7: There have gotten a lot of seasoning do something. 180 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 6: And the fact that you now can get paid to 181 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 6: stay in college, and in some cases people are being 182 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 6: paid more in college than they are in their first 183 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 6: year in the NBA, you don't have that ethical dilemma 184 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 6: that the NBA has wrestled a little bit of, Like, man, 185 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 6: we're preventing young men from earning money and supporting their 186 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 6: families by doing this age limit. 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 7: That's not a factor anymore. So why not make it 188 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 7: two years? 189 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 6: To your point, you had people doing the work for 190 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: you right in college or overseas or wherever it is, 191 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 6: and you would get a completely different preparation of player. 192 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 6: And I'm just not really quite sure why they're not 193 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 6: doing that. I know the Players Association, there's some agreement 194 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 6: there with the CBA, but I just I think it 195 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 6: would benefit everyone. 196 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Well, you know, the other thing is, and there was 197 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: that sort of ethical dilemma. You're not paying the kids. 198 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: I get that. 199 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: But even if the G League offered you a little 200 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: more than Kansas or Duke, Kansas and Duke games are 201 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: on television. So the truth of the matter is the 202 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: shoe deal and the advantages. Zion gets no shoe deal 203 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: at the G League. He got it because of Duke. 204 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 7: Absolutely. 205 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: So like I'd say this just as a cautionary tale 206 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: about just getting the money. I understand it ethically, But 207 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: even if the G League paid more, do you guys 208 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: understand how much a commercial costs during a Duke game? 209 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: Because there's so many people watching a Duke or a 210 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: Carolina or a Kansas or a Yukon game. College provides 211 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: unbelievable free marketing to your body, your feet, your shoes, 212 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: your game, your personality. Take advantage of it. Baker Mayfield 213 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: came into the league T Bowl Reggie Bush as stars. Okay, 214 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: so listen, I'm not going to tell people. Dan Wooke 215 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: and I argued for twenty minutes yesterday. So this is 216 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: the worst Houston's going to be over the next ten years. 217 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: This is the worst Oklahoma City's going to be. This 218 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: is the worst Wemby and the spurs are going to 219 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: be They're only getting better because they're rising athletic stars, 220 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: ascending stars and a draft picks. Yeah. The idea that 221 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: the Lakers are like, listen, we're not budget on Austin Reeves, 222 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: to me, lax, it's deluded. Guys. 223 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 7: Do you think that's a tactic? 224 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: Though it has to be great? 225 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 7: I mean, that was my impression hearing that is it's 226 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 7: a tactic. 227 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 6: It's sort of you know, hey, guys, yes, we're open 228 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 6: for business, clearly because they are trying to acquire a center. 229 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 6: But you know, the price. If you want Austin Reeves 230 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 6: and the deal would be like super high, then we 231 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 6: wouldn't give up anything else because my gosh, we don't 232 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 6: want to part with him. 233 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 7: That's a tactic. 234 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 6: So I think that, sure, they really do love Austin Reeves, 235 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 6: and Dan, who is as plugged into the team as 236 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 6: anyone in the world, will tell you that they love him, 237 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 6: and by the way, they do, and Lebron is very 238 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 6: fond of him, and they feel. 239 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 7: Like he's this homegrown product. 240 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 6: But absolutely, if they get some you know, some incredible 241 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 6: guide in the deal, and the only last stickler is 242 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 6: throwing Austin reeves he'll be gone because I just they 243 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 6: need a different sort of combination of players, and if 244 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 6: they can get that, if they can get center help, 245 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 6: if they can get some of the other things on 246 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 6: the wing defensively that they need, and Austin has to go, 247 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 6: I think that they have a responsibility to do that 248 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 6: because you have Luca, a generational superstar, you have Lebron 249 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 6: who is still willing to get his four now forty 250 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 6: one year old soon to be body out of bed 251 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 6: and come play for you. And I think they've got 252 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 6: to build the best possible team around those guys. 253 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: So over the course of a life, everybody should evolve, 254 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: and I think smart people, probably more willing to change 255 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: and adapt, evolve faster, sooner and more often. Lebron knows 256 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's a billionaire. Yeah, how about this suggestion, 257 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: take a little less? 258 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 7: Oh, I think he should take a minimum. 259 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: That's what I think. So look, and you and I 260 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: aren't hey telling people what to do with their money. 261 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 6: No, no, no, But look, Lebron has felt for a long 262 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,239 Speaker 6: time that he is large at large, big picture underpaid, 263 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 6: and that is why. Ever since his first contract in Miami, 264 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 6: after that, he has wanted the maximum amount of money, 265 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 6: and he is absolutely right. There is no amount of 266 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 6: money that the NBA at large or any team he 267 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 6: plays for could pay him to compensate for what he 268 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 6: has brought to the NBA. 269 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 7: So he is always going to be quote underpaid. 270 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: But to your point, he is a billionaire, So how 271 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: much money he made in the next year or two, 272 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 6: it is not even going to put a dent in 273 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 6: his grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's pockets. And if I were Lebron, 274 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 6: the thing you cannot buy with whatever amount of money 275 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 6: you do get in that contract is championship rings. 276 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 7: And if you took just the. 277 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 6: League minimum and that allows a third really sort of 278 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 6: huge superstar to come in, not only could he win 279 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 6: another ring, but if he sticks around, and there's certainly 280 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 6: a lot of talk about the fact that he wants 281 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 6: to now wait to play with his son, Bryce, who 282 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 6: still has a year at Arizona coming up, and there's 283 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 6: a couple of years until Bryce comes in the league. 284 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 6: He could get maybe two ranks, and by the way, 285 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 6: that puts him in. 286 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 7: One more ring puts them in the Kobe conversation. Two 287 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 7: more rings puts him in the Michael Jordan. 288 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 6: Ring conversation, and I don't care how much money the 289 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 6: Lakers can pay him in the next year or two. 290 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 7: They can't pay him more championship rings. 291 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 6: And I just if I were him, The thing money 292 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 6: can't buy is this team, you know, going to the 293 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 6: finals having juice. He talked over the summer about how 294 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 6: much loved the Olympics. 295 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 7: He was playing for something. 296 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, think about this, Think about Denver, a team 297 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: that we all kind of feel collectively like, well, they 298 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: don't have quite it. They have Jokic and Murray and Porter, 299 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon's an elite player, Westbrook off the bench, the 300 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: kid from Kansas Brown. Okay, that's a that's a lot 301 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: of guys either in their prime and Westbrook still athletically 302 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: is in most people's prime. Lebron's out of it, Austin's 303 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: limited athletically, and Lucas never in great shape. That's just 304 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: the Denver roster. Oklahoma City is so much deeper an 305 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: athletic than the Lakers. Like my take his guys, Lebron, 306 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: you need too major moves to compete with OKAC going 307 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: forward because Jannis is probably gonna go west. 308 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 6: Well, look, first of all, I just want to keep 309 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 6: saying it. We don't know for sure that Yannis will 310 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 6: leave Milwaukee, so I know it's our job to talk 311 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 6: about where he might go. 312 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 7: But he could. 313 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 6: Yannis has shown a lot of loyalty to the Bucks, 314 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 6: so we'll just have to see how that plays out. However, 315 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 6: if he does want a trade, there's already been reporting 316 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 6: he wants to go to a major market. I'm not 317 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 6: sure he's going to have as much of a say 318 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 6: as some other superstars in that position, because he still 319 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 6: has two more years left on his contract, and I 320 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 6: think and he's also a good guy. He's not going 321 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 6: to try to, you know, play his way out of 322 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 6: a team or you know, not show up or hold 323 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 6: out if he goes to a smaller market. So I 324 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 6: think any team would take even if it's just only 325 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 6: two years of Giannis. I think teams would take that, 326 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 6: even if he's indicating that he wouldn't resign. But let's 327 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 6: just talk about that with the Lakers. If for some 328 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 6: reason the Lakers could get him, wouldn't Lebron take a 329 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 6: pay cut for that? I mean, I just because here's 330 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 6: the thing, they can't get him financially. Before we even 331 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 6: get to the fact that the thunder had more draft picks, 332 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 6: the Rockets have more draft picks, the Spurs have more 333 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 6: draft picks. 334 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 7: They can't even they can't even have. 335 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 6: That conversation because the money factor won't work. So I 336 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 6: just again, I'm not telling Lebron James what to do 337 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 6: with his money. He's made a billion dollars for a reason. 338 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 6: He knows what he's doing. 339 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 7: If it were me, I. 340 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 6: Would prioritize spending my last couple of years on a 341 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 6: team that's getting to the NBA Finals. That's dominant, that's fun, 342 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 6: that's winning. You cannot buy that. 343 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Look at this. The Warriors without Steph beat the t 344 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: Wolves in Minnesota. The Lakers were backhanded by Minnesota. The 345 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: game was a physical mismatch. Yeah, if you watched that 346 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: game last night as raw Pulink and Lebron and you're like, 347 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: Warriors have six guys contributing last night, I would say 348 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: the lacrosse guy seven or. 349 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: Eight lacrosse guy, I love it. 350 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, the Lakers like their third guy didn't contribute. 351 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: He wouldn't play Jackson Hayes. It's a two man team. 352 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 7: And look, I will say the Lakers knew this. It's 353 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,239 Speaker 7: not as if. 354 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 6: After they made the Luca trade they were like, we're done, 355 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 6: We're great. Right, they made that trade, they knew it 356 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 6: would seriously hamper their chances in the playoffs this year. 357 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 6: You still make that trade fifteen times out of ten, right, 358 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 6: and then you fix it over the summer. So this 359 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 6: is going to be the question now is when Rob 360 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 6: Polnka is on the clock, not the minute after the 361 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 6: Luca trade run. But now, can you build a team 362 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 6: around Luca? Can you convince Lebron to take less money? 363 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 6: Can you part with Austin Reeves emotionally if you have to? 364 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 6: Those are the big questions facing the Lakers for offices. 365 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: So somebody asked me yesterday and they said, you know, 366 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: Halliburton went to the Olympics and didn't have a big impact. 367 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: And I said, the Olympics are like summer camp. Everybody 368 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: gets along at summer camp. That doesn't mean they'd be 369 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: a great teammate for eighty two games, right. So you 370 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: go to the Olympics and like summer camp, there's a hierarchy. 371 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: People have been to camp before. You know, they get 372 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: the best bunk that, they get the best place to stay, 373 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: They know all the counselors. So don't judge a player 374 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: based on the Olympics. What Halliburton does is ware well 375 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: over time because he's a facilitator. And this this Indiana 376 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: series is over because one team, even though Donovan Mitchell 377 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: is great, doesn't have a quarterback. Yeah, Halliburton in this series. Now, 378 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: if you're watching this and you don't get it, I mean, 379 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: I think he is so unique. Everybody touches the ball. 380 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: I think this is his coming out part. You know 381 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about Anton Tatum. This is a moment for Halliburton. 382 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 6: I mean, he's coming out party last year. Also, I 383 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 6: mean I have been long on the tyrese. Haliburton is 384 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 6: a great player and his underrated train because look at 385 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 6: him and. 386 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 7: Look what he does at the end of game. 387 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 6: Right, He's had two last second game winners in the 388 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 6: last week, right this. 389 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: Year with the team coming yeah, under two minutes to 390 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: tie or take a lead. Tenn of eleven. 391 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 7: Right, you literally cannot ask for more of that. 392 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 6: When Tyres didn't play at the Olympics, the funniest tweet 393 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 6: I thought from him saying, hey, when you get an 394 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 6: A on the group project and didn't do anything for it, 395 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 6: and he's got a great sense of humor about it. 396 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 6: But when he was named the most overrated player in 397 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: that Athletic poll a few weeks ago, I really cautioned 398 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 6: everyone look at the numbers because the Athletic, to their credit, 399 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 6: was very transparent about how many players would even answer 400 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 6: each question. May they only got ninety guys to answer 401 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 6: the overrated question out of four hundred and fifty. 402 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 7: In the league. 403 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 6: And by the way, with the percentage of how much 404 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 6: tyree'se got of being quote overrated, the math works out 405 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 6: to twelve or thirteen guys. There's twelve or thirteen guys 406 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 6: in the NBA out of four hundred and fifty who 407 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 6: think Tyrese Haliburton's quote overrated. 408 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: It can be a little bit of a petty league. 409 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 6: I was going to say, this is a league, a 410 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 6: little bit of a petty league, A little bit. This 411 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 6: is the most petty workplace on Earth right right, So 412 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 6: I just don't I throw that overrated thing out. 413 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 7: He's obviously started to use it to his vantage. 414 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 6: You've heard overrate that from him again last night, and 415 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 6: I love that he has. 416 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 7: That is a rallying cry. 417 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 6: He is a very very good basketball player that you 418 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 6: want on your team, and his teammates love him. And 419 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 6: by the way, that is a great indicator of what 420 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 6: kind of guy he is, that he could be the 421 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 6: summer camp guy even when he's at home. 422 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we all talk about the great domestic player 423 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: and we don't bring him up. And he is the 424 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: best between Tatum, Ant and Hallie. He's the best late 425 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: game closer of the three. 426 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 7: Yeah. 427 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: Finally, Okay, So when everybody said j Mack was like, 428 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: I think, okay, so he's gonna sweep him. I'm like, bro, 429 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: Winver's got too many guys, too many veteran guys who 430 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: have been in too many playoff games. Were you surprised 431 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: a little that you could see how nervous, okayse he was. 432 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: They would have been better off in Denver? Yeah, they 433 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: looked tight. 434 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 6: Look was like, yes, I was a little bit surprised 435 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 6: at that. I will say that if Aaron Gordon doesn't 436 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 6: hit another last second sort of miracle sort of thing, 437 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 6: that even the disorganization of the thunder at the end 438 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 6: of that game wouldn't have mattered. So I just some 439 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 6: of these games are so razor thin, so tight. Nikoli 440 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 6: Jokich is on the other side and energize Russell Westbrook, 441 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 6: who got a standing ovation in a foreign arena in 442 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 6: the playoffs, which is just something you never see, is 443 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 6: on one right now. I just think the difference in 444 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 6: that game. Yes, the Thunder didn't play up to their level. Yes, 445 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 6: they still don't have the solid, solid, oh my gosh, 446 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 6: number two option who can just come out there and score. 447 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 6: Jaylen Williams hasn't developed into that as the number two 448 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 6: to Shay in that way, and we are still waiting 449 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 6: for that to happen. He is their number two option, 450 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 6: but it's just not the kind of at the level 451 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 6: of what Okac is going to need to win titles 452 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 6: in this round right now so far, so let's. 453 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 7: See what happens. 454 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 6: I still have a lot of faith in the Oklahoma 455 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 6: City Thunder, But anytime you send Nikolijokic into a playoff game, 456 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 6: I don't care what he seeded, I don't care what 457 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 6: his teams are doing. That is a connected locker room 458 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 6: who is playing for a coach that they really like. 459 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 6: I talk to a bunch of the Nuggets players last 460 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: week and they just were singing the praises out of Adaman, 461 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 6: and I just think they will remain an extremely dangerous 462 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 6: team as long as they're in it. 463 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a little Bill Russell, he's coaching, he's playing. 464 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: He I mean, I. 465 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 6: Mean, he's one of the best basketball players of all time. 466 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 467 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 7: Period. 468 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: I said, outside of Kareem in his prime, No, because 469 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: Kareem was an unbelievable defender and like sometimes could you know, 470 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: it's funny when you look at Jokic, you think he's 471 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: indifferent and a lot of times he's just coachable. But 472 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: the minute the coach leaves, he's the coach. 473 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 7: He's screaming at his guys on the sideline. 474 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: So good. Yeah, Rachel Nichols, so much fun. These games 475 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: are crazy. 476 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 7: It's amazing what these playoff games have been. 477 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 6: And it is also the first time in NBA history 478 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 6: that you had four road. 479 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 7: Teams win Game one in this round. 480 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 481 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 7: Never happened before that. 482 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: Good jam, good nugget. All right, live Li, it's. 483 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: The Herd one more Heard. The Herd streams twenty four 484 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. 485 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 486 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm not into like escapism. I didn't watch Game of Thrones. 487 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: I like reality, and you say, well, what about Mission Impossible. 488 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: That's not a movie, that's a documentary that's really happening 489 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: in real time. 490 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Hold on, Tom Cruise was in interview with the Vampire. 491 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. 492 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: I thought he was your guy. 493 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: No, I don't do vampire movie. I don't do wizards 494 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: and sorcerers. I'm not into that stuff. I like documentaries, news, politics, sports, Okay, 495 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: highbrow elitists. Yes, what am I escaping from? I talked 496 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: sports for a living. I don't need to escape to 497 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: some realm. I got nothing against sinners. But it's vampires. 498 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: So Game of Thrones. 499 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: Someone told someone smart, said, listen, start watching Game of 500 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 4: Thrones with your kid because it teaches a lot of 501 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: life lessons. 502 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: I guess I haven't seen it. Have you seen Game 503 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: of Thrones? 504 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of life lessons. Sorcerer appears, don't be 505 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: friends with him or a wizard? 506 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: What about the dragons? 507 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: It's just I'm not into that. So I guess Centners 508 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: is great. But like when I watched Oppenheimer, that really happened? Well, okay, 509 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: I didn't watch Barbie. That didn't really happen. 510 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: You didn't see Barbie. No, it wasn't bad. And listen 511 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 4: if Margot Robbie's in a movie as a man. 512 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: I watched it. I just watched the movie by Steven Soderberg, 513 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: The Black Bag, and it didn't happen, but it could happen. 514 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: It's like espionage. I like reality. Don't throw in stuff 515 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. I'm not interested in that. I like 516 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: heist movies. I like, you know, anything that I have 517 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: to figure out. I'm not into face stuff, escapism, escape 518 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: from what. 519 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: You don't want to go sit in a theater for 520 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: two hours and just escape reality? 521 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: Just oh, man, what is a cocktail? 522 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: Does that just as well? You know, just sitting there 523 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: thinking about things. 524 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: But you sound like you're really fun at parties. 525 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't like part Oh I don't. 526 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: By the way, I invited Cowherd to a dinner tonight. 527 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: He's like, no, thanks, Well you really sold it. Hey, 528 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: it's a bunch of local dads. And I'm like, why 529 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: don't you just take a sleeping pill instead? Jmack with 530 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: the news. No, no, no. 531 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: This is the mind. 532 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 4: Let's go to the Celtics colin their game one strategy 533 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: of sixty three point attempts did not work, missed forty 534 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 4: five of them. 535 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: Well, I think he's your friend. Timmy Legler aka Legs. 536 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely tore the Celtics to shreds yesterday. 537 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: Man, he ripped them. 538 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: Here we go. 539 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 5: What the Boston Celtics did last night was an insult 540 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 5: to basketball in my opinion, Man, that that's an abomination, 541 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 5: an abomination. 542 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 7: Offensively to play the way they played. 543 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: And look, if. 544 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 8: People are gonna sit there, well, let's till they play 545 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 8: all the time, may flip out of three, time out 546 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 8: of three? 547 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 548 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: Watch the game. 549 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 9: What I didn't understand was why they were the Celtics 550 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 9: playing as if for literally an entire eighteen minute stretch 551 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 9: they played offense like there was three seconds. 552 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: Not up in the game. 553 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: He's so right with such a bad look. I mean Tatum. 554 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: This goes back to my Tatum. They're so embedded in 555 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: this three point culture that Tatum, who can beat guys 556 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: off the dribble. You'll watch him beat a guy off 557 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: the dribble and pull back to take a three, because 558 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: that's what Missoula and the guys upstairs won. Like I'm sorry, 559 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: get me up. That's what Jimmy Butler does, get me 560 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: a basket. Momentum, basketball matters. The fans are right on 561 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: the floor. Get last night the Warriors when it all 562 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, here goes Minnesota. Minnesota's got it to ten. 563 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Butler's like, let's just get a basket. Quiet the crowd 564 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: down this and again. I think I think Boston's really good. 565 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: But watch Tatum will beat guys off the dribble. He'll 566 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: pull back and take the worst shot. 567 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: Well, three is more than two step back three for Tatum. 568 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: What's the percent of John hitting a three over a 569 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: two normally for Tatum? It's good. 570 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: They just had an off game, Colin, I am curious. 571 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 4: Can you guess the line tonight? Celtics hosting the net 572 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: told me the other day it was ten and a half. 573 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 4: It's not ten and a half now, I would guess 574 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: it's nine and a half. 575 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: I love it. 576 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: It's going the other way. Everybody thinks Celtics bound back 577 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: big time. 578 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: Nel McHale Bridges played like fifty one minutes. 579 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he was three or thirteen, but he 580 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: had a huge steal at the end. Like, I don't 581 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 4: know that the Knicks show up again. I done just 582 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: kept how I mean's done. This is a one possession 583 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 4: game late, because if that's. 584 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: The case, then the Knicks can win the series. 585 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: Thanks, you're not gonna win this show. 586 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 4: I largely agree with you, but I'm a Knicks fan, 587 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 4: so I got a ride with her. Next up, let's 588 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: go to the Nuggets, Colin another big comeback. Look at 589 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: this Jokic coaching, Yes, coaching against Okay. See, he had 590 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: a masterful forty twenty two. Now there's some interesting stuff 591 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 4: about him being a vocal leader in the huddle. 592 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: Listen to Christian Brown. Listen closely to what he said about. 593 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 10: Yokich obviously has mine you know, in basketball, maybe ever, 594 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 10: but definitely has the best mind on our bench. And 595 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 10: so when he talks to people, listen, and that's who 596 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 10: he is. He wants to win. So when he's yelling 597 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 10: and telling you things a lot of times it's pretty 598 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 10: hard to understand, but you know he means it. He's 599 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 10: passionate about it. What he's telling you. He's not telling 600 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 10: you just to say something. That his mind is great 601 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 10: and he wants to win. And that's the guy he 602 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 10: wants to be. I think he wants to be vocal. 603 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 10: I don't know that he wants to have to yell 604 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 10: every time out, but when people when he talks, people listen. 605 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: Jokics has the best mind on our bench. Where does 606 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 4: that say to you? That includes the coaching staff. 607 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm not I know I supposed to be appalled by that. Look, 608 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: I think Lebron's had a better basketball mine, not than Spolstra, 609 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: but I think Lebron probably knows situational basketball better than 610 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: JJ Ruddick. 611 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: So that gets to the point. 612 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: Is there a world where the Nuggets saw, hey man, 613 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: Michael Malone, Let's just get him out of here. 614 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: Jokis can lead us in the Houddel lead us on 615 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: the well. 616 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: I think stand Kronky, who owns the Nuggets, at one 617 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: point said, like the most Joe's bad. Malone is a 618 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: very critical dressing. He's rough on players and so so 619 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: so certain coaches, not a lot of them, but they're 620 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: really good with players. Maybe not scheme guys. Now. Kerr 621 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: is both full for both, but Malone was more scheme 622 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: first and getting along at a cocktail party second. And 623 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: I think Malone barked a lot, and I think that 624 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: wears players out. It's a players league, and it has 625 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: been since the seventies. 626 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: Can I put Reddick in that class of the elite coaches? 627 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: Well, no, he's not a leade yet any playoff series. 628 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: I think schematically, I thought the Lakers were a very 629 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: good first half team, mission very intentional team. You could 630 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: see the game plan. But I think there is It's 631 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: not the NFL you got, you know, seventeen Sundays, you 632 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: got eighty two games sometimes. I mean Chris Finch twice 633 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: a year probably has to light his teammate, and he did. 634 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: That's about what you get two to three times a year. 635 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: You can light your team up. You forget Remember it's 636 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: not just the games. You have three times the practices. 637 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: So two hundred and forty days with these players, you 638 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: get about three nights to light them off. 639 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: The coaching part's interesting. 640 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: Remember Kyrie Irving when he went to Brooklyn and was like, 641 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: we don't even need a coach. 642 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: We got me stupid to talk. 643 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: I largely agree, but Jokis versus an interim coaches is interesting. 644 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: Final story Collins to. 645 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: The NFL, where the Lions have had an amazing run 646 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: in the last two seasons, but still. 647 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: No Super Bowl trips. They were closed two years ago. 648 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: Detroit legend. 649 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 4: Barry Sanders believes the running game of Gibbs and Montgomery 650 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 4: can lead the team to their first Super Bowl appearance. 651 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 11: David Montgomery, He's been a great running back in the 652 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 11: NFL for many years, and he just added to that. 653 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 11: You know, coming over from the Bears, and you see 654 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 11: what Jamiir Gibbs was able to do last season. Really 655 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 11: from the time, you know, from the last two years 656 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 11: that he's been here, But I feel like last year 657 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 11: was more of a breakout season for him. You would 658 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 11: think that if the Super in our future in the 659 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 11: near future, and you would think that those two guys 660 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 11: would be a big part of it. 661 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: No good line, good backs, good receiver. 662 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: Interesting in the running back hype, two running backs. 663 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 4: He said nothing about the quarter that who had four 664 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: turnovers in the playoff loss to Washington. 665 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: I didn't notice GoF three picks in a fumble. 666 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: Well, Goff is the last one of the last three 667 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: or four pure pocket passers. Cousin Stafford gob not many 668 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: I get super Bowl. Oh, Goff's been to a Super Bowl. 669 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: Yes, look at that fifty nine years since the Lions 670 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: were in the Super Bowl. 671 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: My my Jets are on that list. 672 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: I would guess I'll never see the Jets in the 673 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 4: super Bowl in my lifetime. 674 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: I don't think they'll get there in the next. 675 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: I think I think Detroit's got Detroy's got a way 676 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: better chance. Well, I will say this is gonna be 677 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: a big year for Golf. If he stumbles in the playoffs, 678 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: they'll just got a new contract, didn't you. Well, you 679 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: know what, he is a good cornerback. You could put 680 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Goff every year. Eight teams are desperate for a quarterback. 681 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: Jared Goff on the market would would find a job. 682 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: Geno Smith has gotten multiple opportunities. Jared's beat up the 683 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: Gino y. Sam Darnold totally resurrected his career. Baker Mayfield, 684 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: you get opportunities. Jared Goff on the market would have suitor. 685 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: Speaking of Darnald, you'r Niner's last place take yesterday, forty 686 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 4: nine ers fans on the internet were fired up. I 687 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: know people are angry when they're coming to me saying 688 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 4: you've got a talk sense into coward. Niners are not 689 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 4: a last place team like people are your NFL takes 690 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 4: in the office. 691 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: I said, you're working people up. 692 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Hey, truth hurt, I said a year ago today, I 693 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: said the Niners have peaked. It is not going to 694 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: look the same, And I was right. They should have 695 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: two years ago started moving pieces. They didn't, So this 696 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: is and I thought Seattle and Arizona arguably had two 697 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: of the top three drafts. 698 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 4: Niners lost that Super Bowl in overtime like they were close. 699 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: You know, that was their peaking year, eleven eleven wins 700 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: this year. 701 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: Wait till the schedule comes out too. Hopefully it's not 702 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: as tough as the Bear schedule. Jay Mack with the. 703 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: News, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by 704 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: the herd Line News. 705 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman stops by that whole Jordan Hudson Belichick thing. 706 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: Do you know, do you see the story that Belichick 707 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: could be looking for some quote, professional pr help, that 708 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson has rubbed people the wrong way? I have 709 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: no insight on this. This story is so weird. I 710 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: don't know where to go in it. I'm about ready 711 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: to wave the white flag on this whole story. I 712 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: like it gets weirder every time there's a new story. 713 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: She forced her way into the Duncan Donuts commercial with Belichick, 714 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: like it's intense, But there's there's Edelman will have to 715 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: give us some insight. 716 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I made the mistake once you mentioned like 717 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: her the story about her family, her parents, like what 718 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: they do and stuff, and then I went down from 719 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: rabbit holes. 720 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm just going to stay out of the story. It's 721 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 3: like you're waiting to go like, I don't. 722 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: Think I'll tell you the story. That's crazy is that 723 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: guy going from Oregon to Hawaii. I'm a sailboat with 724 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: his cat. Have you seen that thing on TikTok gripping? 725 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: Let's TikTok, my friend, come on, it's the hurt. 726 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 727 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: and noone Eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 728 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 729 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 12: Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together we're 730 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 12: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 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Check local listings for the game in your 757 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 4: area Saturday, seven Eastern. 758 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: On pod, people are saying the Cubs should be the 759 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: best eam in baseball, That's what they're saying. So Steph 760 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: Curry will not play minimum next three games for the Warriors, 761 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: So it's interesting. Here's a graph that he definitely won't 762 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 1: play tomorrow. The Warriors are seven and five without Steph. 763 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: The offense takes a huge hit when he doesn't play. 764 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: They score like seven less of game. The defense is 765 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: actually noticeably better, one ten to one oh five. Here's 766 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: kerr on playing without Steph. 767 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 5: Talked to Hi about halftime, just you know, he's obviously crushed, 768 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 5: but you know, the guys picked him up and played 769 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 5: a great game and concerned about stuff. But it's part 770 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 5: of part of the game. You just guys get hurt 771 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 5: and you move on. It's an amazing group of guys. 772 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 5: These guys are they're they compete and they're together. We've 773 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 5: been the best defense in the league since the Jimmy 774 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 5: trade and that's what's keeping us afloat right now. 775 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they they took the Rockets in Game 776 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: seven and the t Wolves in Game one, took them 777 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: to the shed. And that that offensive performance was brutal 778 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: by Minnesota last night. The other thing that happened last night, 779 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: it was the craziest game. I mean, Calves are up seven, 780 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: like there's a minute left. It's crazy. But this whole 781 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: thing about Tyrese Halliburton the NBA has always been a 782 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: very petty league, and guys play favorites, and there is 783 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: some value in being cool, which is fine. It's doctor 784 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: j was cool, Michael was cool. Uh there, you know, 785 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: Iverson had so much street cred, like I get it. 786 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: Halliburton maybe maybe he's not, but the numbers are insane. 787 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: He is ten of eleven this year to tie the 788 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: game or take a lead with under two minutes left. 789 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: That is remarkable. That is unbelievably clutch. And he talked 790 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: after doing it again last night about the whole overrated label. 791 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 8: Good for them, man, that came out of nowhere. But uh, 792 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 8: it's just uh, I think now that that label's there, 793 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 8: they're all that's going to be every time he plays them. 794 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 8: But every time I'll row it. He'll probably follow me 795 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 8: until the next poll comes out and then we'll see 796 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 8: if I'm number one again. But you know, for me, 797 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 8: I just control what I can man, And uh yeah, 798 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 8: I mean that. 799 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: The other thing about Halliburton is he stayed in college 800 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,959 Speaker 1: another year and it paid off. He got to become 801 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: a lottery pick. And I think you know I've said 802 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: this before, is point guards are quarterbacks and Shader Sanders 803 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: dropped in the draft, and part of it was people 804 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: thought he lacks self awareness. And I think the players 805 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: that understand the value of college basketball. I mean, look 806 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: at the Warriors right now, Steph Clay was Draymond Green. 807 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: Young players struggle with the Warriors. They just they young 808 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: guys aren't mature enough to make the Warriors. Jordan Poole, 809 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: they bailed on him. Wiseman cominga looks lost. And I 810 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: think Halliburton's one of those NBA players that plays much 811 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: older than he is, and I think college basketball deserves 812 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for that. This is you know, listen, 813 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you my opinions. You don't have to 814 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: like him. I've been on this for years. I confronted 815 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: Adam Silver on it. The G League hurts growth. It 816 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: hurts growth. You're just taking money. Go to college. It's 817 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: better for marketing, you get better coaching. You play in 818 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 1: march madness, which is an NBA environment, you plan sold 819 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: out arenas. You're on a college campus. You're just dealing 820 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: with smart people all over your college campus. You're gonna 821 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: have friends that aren't basketball players. I you know, I'm 822 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. When he in college, he always liked recruiting 823 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: players who played other sports beyond football. He wanted basketball 824 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: players and track guys. I'm really if I was an 825 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: NBA GM, I would be more attracted to college basketball players. 826 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: I think you've been coached better, You've had more sold 827 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: out arenas, you've had more national television games. I mean 828 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: the G league'es just G league. Give me a break. 829 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: I mean, no, nobody's watching those games, nobody's going to 830 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: those games. And the coaching. Now, Nick Nurse came from 831 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: the G League. There are some good coaches. But I 832 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: think if you're not going to go college basketball, go overseas, 833 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: go play in Europe, and go play in these intense 834 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: environments in Greece or Spain or wherever it is now. 835 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a terrible idea because again, there's intensity, 836 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: and there's you know, there's a there's a press that's 837 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: on you, and there's a community that it's pretty tribal 838 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: and intense. I don't think the G League. The NBA 839 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 1: just was on this G League thing, and I don't 840 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: think it helps players There are by the way, NBA's 841 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 1: most clutch player, best clutch player, Jalen Brunson three years 842 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: in college, won two titles. Go look at the best. 843 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: Who are the best clutch players? Brunson College, Halliburton College. 844 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: Here's the guys that are lost cominga and Jalen Green. 845 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 4: Let me give you a couple of G League guys 846 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 4: who have thrived in the NBA. Pascal Siakam has been excellent. 847 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 4: Chris Middleton had a great run with the Bucks. Fred 848 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 4: van Vliet won a title, and the list stops about there. Well, 849 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 4: Alex Caruso with the Lakers had a good little on them, 850 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 4: fine solid run. Austin Reeves started with the South Bay Lakers. 851 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he also played a bunch of college. 852 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: They played a bunch of college. 853 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, No, I'm not saying Lebron James has to 854 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: go play college or like Wimby. But the European system 855 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: of basketball is more like our college system. You're playing 856 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: sometimes against older players. An eighteen year old comes into 857 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and they've got twenty two year old seniors. So 858 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: the European system is more like our college system with 859 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: the elite coaching, real pressure, skills and practice matter, and 860 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: you're playing against older guys. 861 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 4: There's also something that Halliburton being kind of an overlooked 862 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 4: recruit out of Wisconsin. 863 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 3: They weren't even recruiting him in state. Same with Donovan Mitchell. 864 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 3: He ended up. I think at Louisville, guy dropped forty 865 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 3: eight last time. We haven't mentioned that he. 866 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: Had a great game. 867 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 4: Well, but like some of these guys who were overlooked underdogs, 868 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 4: if you will, the Brock Parties of the world, Halliburton, 869 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 4: a lot of these guys were overlooked and they. 870 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 3: Come out and they've got the chip on their shoulders. Well, 871 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 3: whereas you know, the number one overall pick doesn't always 872 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: feel that way. 873 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: I thought, I still think it's funny that a lacrosse 874 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: player was getting minutes for the Warriors last night. So 875 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: I went, indeed, I went and looked at it last night. 876 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. 877 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: He went overseas, he wasn't even a dominant overseas guy, 878 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: and the Warriors got his rights and just doing hook shots, 879 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: running hook shots. 880 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 4: And his brother played on Yukon's national championship. When he came, 881 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 4: I didn't even know that. I mean, this kid, he 882 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 4: looks like a police officer with that mustache. 883 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 3: You know, he wears Thember sixty. 884 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: He kind of looks like Reno nine to one pop. 885 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 4: He almost looks like a parody of something and he's 886 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 4: just out there playing and he's a tough guy. 887 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: By the way. Lacrosse. He reminds me of the sixty 888 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 1: two year old guy at the YMCA who's doing hook 889 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: shots and they go in off the glass. Guys, have 890 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: you ever gone to the YMCA and had the old 891 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: guy who like can't miss hook shots. It's like, what 892 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: do you, George Miken, what does this game come from? 893 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: All right, Julian Edelman's around the corner. We gotta go 894 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: down Belichick and Jordan Hudson. This. We need an investigative I. 895 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 3: Team be careful on this one. Big guy. 896 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: Hey, I have supported that relationship. My wife has not 897 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: supported I have supported this fren relationship.