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Speaker 1: Welcome to Point Game with John Wall and CJ. Toldonald,

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Speaker 1: is yours this point Point Game everybody. On today's episode,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be joined by Lakers guard Spencer Dinwiddie. But first,

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Speaker 1: and of course, we got my co host, John Wall. John,

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Speaker 1: how you feeling, man?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm just guy back from a vacation, so

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Speaker 2: I'm good, just relaxing and I got a new background, so.

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Speaker 1: Can it. We just explained that vacation wasn't due to

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Speaker 1: what happened last Friday. Vacation was already playing. But I

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Speaker 1: did you know what I'm alluding to here is your

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Wildcats got upset in that first round. So we

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Speaker 1: wanted to get your first reaction to watching that game,

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Speaker 1: like to walk us through it. Where were you at?

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Speaker 1: How did you feel watching that game? Man? What were

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Speaker 1: some of your your thoughts coming out of it?

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Speaker 2: I was at Cabo at the Bar, and I was

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Speaker 2: very upset watching the game because you know, like probably

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Speaker 2: like me and most people, we had them going far.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, And that's one thing you love about

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Speaker 2: Marsh Maddins is it's always a lot of upsets and

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Speaker 2: a lot of great basketball. And it's not like the

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Speaker 2: NBA where you got win the first team to four.

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Speaker 2: You just got to be great that one game. It's

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Speaker 2: just like the NFL playoffs. So it's just one of

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Speaker 2: those games where you know, I mean, like I said before,

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Speaker 2: I told y'all, guys make all type of shots. When

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Speaker 2: you're playing a screw like a taket, it's like their

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Speaker 2: super Bowl. And when the game starting, the gut got

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Speaker 2: high early on, I was like, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: long game and it's about who making shots. And we

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Speaker 2: got a team like Oakland. You got to put those

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Speaker 2: And some of our guys didn't play at the level

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Speaker 2: lot of credit to Oakland. I mean, for that one day,

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Speaker 2: that one game they played better. That's all they needed

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Speaker 2: to advance. And then they played a great next game

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Speaker 2: So I'm really upset about that though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're still upset right now, Like how did you

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Speaker 1: try to blow off some steam after that game.

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Speaker 2: I tried to enjoy my vacation, and my vacation was

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Speaker 2: kind of messed up when they lost. And then, you know,

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Speaker 2: like you always got those friends like what happened? What

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Speaker 2: I mean, textan call them. I'm like, bro, that's my school.

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Speaker 2: I'm mad they lost, but I wasn't playing, so like

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Speaker 2: stop calling me, Like I can tell you what they

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Speaker 2: great depth, lot of young talent. That night, they didn't

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Speaker 2: one thing I always told you that I was worried

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Speaker 2: But some of that you couldn't even guard. Like that

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Speaker 1: Early, and I think you know, the real part of

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Speaker 2: This The same critics that praised it when he had

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Speaker 2: They had a lot of guys that was a little older,

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Speaker 2: so they stayed in the game. They kept fighting, kept fighting.

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Speaker 2: Then while they make a big shot at the shot,

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Speaker 2: But col not tripping off that you I mean, he

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Speaker 2: Like you said, that's for me watching and being playing

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Speaker 1: And he talked about the older guys. You know that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to move into NBA. One of the stories

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Speaker 2: What would I do? Yeah, they got a lot of

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Speaker 2: They know what pieces fit what doesn't. So I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have guest Lakers guard Spencer Dinwiddie. So we

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Speaker 1: That's three spots before Yokich, the mayor of Colorado, and

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Speaker 1: the man who dropped twenty six last night for my Lakers,

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Speaker 1: your Lakers against his Pacers. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, Spencer Dinwiddie. Spencer, how you feeling, man.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling great. We flew them Milwaukee today and get

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Speaker 3: ready to play tomorrow. You know, the NBA never stops,

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Speaker 2: Yees Spence, how you feel like you know, like you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So now you know, you back home, you get

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Speaker 3: And so to be a part of that at any

431
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,119
Speaker 3: point in time in your career is a blessing and

432
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,880
Speaker 3: and so that that definitely contributed to the decision as well.

433
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Speaker 1: Spencer, do you remember the moment you became a Kobe

434
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,439
Speaker 1: fan like watching him play and then fast forward to that.

435
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember like the first time you met him

436
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 1: when you got in the league.

437
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, So for me being a Kobe Fams kind of

438
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,520
Speaker 3: just like part of it, right, Like, you know, he

439
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,720
Speaker 3: started ninety six. I was born in ninety three. I

440
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 3: started playing basketball around like four or five, you know

441
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,359
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So, like the fact that you're an

442
00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,760
Speaker 3: LA guy, it's Lakers everything, cod In like his first

443
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 3: second year, it just was a natural marriage in that sense,

444
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 3: right Like there there didn't have to be a moment.

445
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,920
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, you locked onto your team

446
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 3: from your city coach, the guy like coming up and

447
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,399
Speaker 3: obviously already becoming a star by his you know, second

448
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 3: year stuff. So it just was like natural, you know

449
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And then yeah, I actually got connected

450
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 3: to him early in my career through somebody used to

451
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 3: work with you know, she she puts in contact and

452
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,400
Speaker 3: so I was able to talk to him off and on.

453
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Speaker 2: You know.

454
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Speaker 3: That was that was That was a big time for

455
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,439
Speaker 3: me because I got to meet Idol, conversement Idol. But

456
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 3: still there was such a distance from the standpoint of

457
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 3: he still got to kind of remain an idol versus

458
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 3: almost being a real person until later in my career.

459
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Speaker 2: So now y'all in the playing tournament right now, like

460
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: fighting for that spot. Things were like twelve thirteen games left,

461
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 2: Like how is that mindset going on? You know, like

462
00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 2: usually we don't have to play in tournament. You know,

463
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 2: usually their first eight teams get in, and now you

464
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 2: have those four teams that's fighting and trying to stay

465
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 2: in that spot and not slip. What is your mindsetting

466
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: and focus is knowing y'all got like twelve to thirteen

467
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: games left and y'all want to be in that spot

468
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 2: and get opportunity to have a last playoff spot to fight.

469
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think we feed off of Brian A. D.

470
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 3: And obviously they're locking in. Like I said, they're kind

471
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 3: of you can see their attention to detail, their focus

472
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: kind of rising. I mean you know this, like you know,

473
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 3: the season kind of goes in waves, and after all

474
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 3: Star Break you kind of get a little more serious.

475
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 3: And as you hit March, he gets even a little

476
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 3: bit more serious, and those guys are are turning that corner,

477
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 3: flipping that switch. And then obviously you know with those

478
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: two on the floor, we feel like we can beat anybody.

479
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 3: And so as we're coming down this home stretch right now,

480
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 3: we're trying to win every game. And some of that

481
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 3: is seating obviously, of course, but like a lot of

482
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 3: that just is us wanting to play the right way,

483
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: be in the position that we want to be in

484
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: as a team, you know, so that like we're playing

485
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: good basketball and believing that we can beat anybody, whether

486
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 3: it be a playing or you know, normal seeding in

487
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,719
Speaker 3: the playoffs, et cetera.

488
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Speaker 1: Spencer, what's your in season or yeah, like your in

489
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: season routine, you know, with all the travel and you

490
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: just moved in the middle of the season, Like what

491
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: is your daily routine in like stand in shape? And

492
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: also like you know, you can go from playing twelve

493
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: minutes one night to you know, starting and playing a

494
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: full game yesterday. So what do you do to like

495
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 1: maintain the best you.

496
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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's a lot of treatment, physical therapy, uh,

497
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 3: you know, diet, but really I think the NBA kind

498
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 3: of and John could attest to this, the NBA kind

499
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: of breaks down into three days, three types of days.

500
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: There's a game day, light practice day, and a heavy

501
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 3: practice day. There is no real off day. There is

502
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: no you know, weekends like it don't matter, like you

503
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 3: could be playing on Saturday, you could be playing on Tuesday.

504
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: And so you know, obviously, like I said, light practice

505
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 3: day usually it means we're coming off of maybe be

506
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 3: a back to back or you know, we got three

507
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: and five or something of that nature, and you know

508
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 3: your your focus is more so on the body at

509
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 3: that point, you might be doing a more mobility focused lift.

510
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: You know, definitely getting a like some like a massage

511
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: whatever at that point in time. Heavy practice obviously goes

512
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 3: without saying you're you're actually getting in the gym, You're

513
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: getting up and down whatever that is for hour two

514
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 3: hours and then you know, game day, I mean we

515
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: show up with three hours before I go on the court.

516
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 3: For about twenty minutes, I sit in the normal tech

517
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: boots for like forty minutes. I do like grasping and

518
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: mobilion and stuff for another hour, and then you know,

519
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 3: about sixty minutes on the clock or so, I take

520
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,239
Speaker 3: a shower and that's like my that's not my pre

521
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: game superstition is like I got to take a shower

522
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: for a game, and then we go out and we

523
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: play and then we go to next it and we

524
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: do it all over again.

525
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: Say it ain't so for sure that you gotta have routine.

526
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: My one course I want to know because you had

527
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: a major engine tanker acl and I had one with

528
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: my achilles. Like try to tell the young players, like

529
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: how your mindset was and your focus is, because you know,

530
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: like attacking the rehab is the most important thing. So

531
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: how did you feel about that? Because I think during

532
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: that year around the same time as like was a

533
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: contract year or a stint year, if I'm not mistaken,

534
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 2: And like, how is your mindset was, because you know,

535
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: you can be at the point where I got it

536
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: Harry back, but I mean to make sure I'm healthy,

537
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: to make sure I'm able to be playing at a

538
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: high level. So how was your mindset and your process

539
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: doing that rehab process?

540
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 3: Honestly, the funny part is like both times I've gotten

541
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 3: hurt was like right when I was supposed to get

542
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: either drafted, paid, whatever. So like the first one I

543
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: got hurt, I was going into the league, so I

544
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 3: declared for the draft for the touring left a cl

545
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 3: and then uh, you know it was contract year and

546
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: that was like coming off of the twenty one point

547
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: in game season, I'm thinking like, Okay, I'm going to

548
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: really hit the bank for Bag.

549
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

550
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: Bag, you know we're supposed to win the championship. We

551
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: got Katie Kyrie, Like I knew I wasn't gonna that

552
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: same little bit. I'm thinking, you know, if I get

553
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen and we win a championship, bro, I'm walking

554
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: into something stupid. Uh might say it again. So I

555
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: think that one probably a little bit of like anxiousness,

556
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 3: to be honest, like the first one, I was. I

557
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: was scared because I had never been hurt before in

558
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: my career, Like you know, you're playing in high school

559
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: and stuff, you just don't get hurt, Like shit don't happen,

560
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 3: Like you know, you fall, you get out, but yeah,

561
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: you know, you fall, you get up. So I think

562
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: I was scared with the first one because I was like, oh, no,

563
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: are they gonna still draft me or not. I think

564
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: I was more so anxious and like sad with the

565
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: second one because I was like, you know, what if

566
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: I have to take a proven deal or a minimum

567
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: or whatever. So you know, I bowed that up in

568
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 3: the experience from the first one and took that to

569
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: my rehab and that schedule was insane that I mean shoot,

570
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: So I went I left Brooklyn, I went to back

571
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: to LA and basically it was three days, five days

572
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: a week, and on the sixth day was a half day.

573
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: So like I would get up, I'd be at PT

574
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: at six to seven thirty, I'd do a mobility lifts

575
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: seven thirty to nine. I then go home, eat breakfast,

576
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: go to my like more manual therapy from like eleven

577
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 3: to like one, and then I'd do an Olympic lifting

578
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: session from one to two thirty, and then I'd drive

579
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: to go to the gym and I shoot from like

580
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 3: two thirty to three thirty something like that, or maybe

581
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 3: my hours are messed up, but back another hour of shooting,

582
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: and then I'd come home, eat dinner, and be in

583
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 3: bad by like ten, cause I had to get up

584
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: and be back at the spot at six. And that

585
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: was Monday through Friday, every single day for five months.

586
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: And then on Saturday I would go get like basically

587
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: all steal slash chiropractor like adjustment and then just do

588
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: another like kind of that one was like a more

589
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: flexible kind of mobility slash Olympic lifting. That was kind

590
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: of like more light just how I was feeling, and

591
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: then Sunday was off and then we did all over again.

592
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: Like that's that's all I did for five months and

593
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: that's how I came back.

594
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: Literally, Yeah, that's crezzy after that, you know, recovery, you know,

595
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people talk about with the

596
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: acl especially, it's like acl Achilles all that. You know,

597
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: they talk about, oh, they're going to come back one

598
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: hundred percent, and I think, like, it's tough to come

599
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: back one hundred percent. Sometimes you don't know, but when

600
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: you hit that chord after they you know, they cleared

601
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: you did you have to relearn some stuff where there's

602
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: some stuff where you're like, oh I got to you know,

603
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: I got a compensate or learn, you know, some new

604
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: techniques to my game. Like what was your mindset coming

605
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: back from that injury?

606
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: I think as I did it before and I had

607
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: signed prior to even playing, I kind of was like

608
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: fuck it, Like I was more so I'm serious, like

609
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: this is real. Like the first one. It was more

610
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: so like apprehensive, are like I said it, kind of

611
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: scared they're gonna draft me. Okay, draft me. Let me

612
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 3: just kind of get in here and like figure it

613
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: out and maybe tinker with my game and stuff. The

614
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: second one. So I showed I was healthy, right, Like,

615
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: I did all the physical tests and whatever. So I

616
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: was healthy. But I signed in obviously July whatever it was,

617
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: so you don't play until obviously like October. So when

618
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: I went out to the playoffs, was like, shit, I'm free.

619
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: Fuck it.

620
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Mike hurt, God got no pressure for no pressure?

621
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, like because you gotta remember now, obviously, if

622
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: I were to get hurt in another contract year, there's

623
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: a certain level of pressure because I think I'm gonna,

624
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: you know, have another deal, you know, play again, hopefully

625
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 3: come back to La et cetera.

626
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Whatever.

627
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: But if you get hurt in the first year of

628
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: a sixty million dollars deal, even if you're like, like,

629
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: let's say, God forbids terrible like in the Kids or something,

630
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 3: and I was just like, you know what, I'm going

631
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: to retire. This too much for me. Well, I would

632
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: just plan for that financially and just say, hey, look,

633
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: I signed for sixty million. God didn't want it for me.

634
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: It is what it is, like, you know, you know,

635
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I'm saying. But you know,

636
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: obviously Achilles is worse than acl and I mean I

637
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: probably put BA talent tendon up there, but Ace is

638
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: probably third. So came back from those.

639
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: Question like how dope is it for like you see

640
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: your son watch you play, like I know that feels amazing,

641
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: Like I mean to be a father and him being

642
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: there and watching you play, Like what kind of chills

643
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: did that give you? Because you're playing at the highest

644
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: level that you could play at, and it's probably give

645
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: him motivation to whatever sport he wanted to go through

646
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: and play. At one point, you're showing him the work

647
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: act and how you have to be dedicated and discipline

648
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: to get to where you want to get to.

649
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: That was one of the things that was like how

650
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: I treated myself when I signed it. So you know,

651
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: when you sit down for your financial advice on the stuff,

652
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: they going over what you're gonna make and what you're

653
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: gonna do, and I was like, my son sitting court

654
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: sided all the games and I don't care what it costs.

655
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: At the time, obviously I was doing Wizards probably, so

656
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: that was that was cool.

657
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: I mean, as you know, it was cool. That's a

658
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: little different than being in l A you.

659
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: Know, like that Brooklyn taxed me too, but I did it.

660
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: But Lakers, there's no chance, there's not a there's not

661
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 4: a shot I would. I'd be playing for free right now.

662
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: Like straight up.

663
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: I was on the Clippers and they wanted to I

664
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: was on the Clippers and luckily my kids, they was

665
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: in Miami, so they would come for a couple of games.

666
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: But I was like, you know what, we see that

667
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: another time.

668
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're like they're about the tunnel of stuff.

669
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: But you know, so I could, I could see him

670
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: on the walkout, but no no chances getting course out

671
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: for Lakers. But in general, though, like it's it's I mean,

672
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: there's there's no greater feeling. I think a lot of

673
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: guys grow up, especially with the dreams that we've had.

674
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: Typically when I hear guys talking like I wanted to

675
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: make it in bed, I wanted to have a firstborn son,

676
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like like that that bond

677
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: of sharing it with somebody, right that we probably didn't

678
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: get to necessarily share it, you know, in the same

679
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 3: way as other people, because you know, unless you had

680
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: a dad, uncle, whatever in the league kind of showing

681
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: you the way you didn't get to experience that. You know,

682
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: some guys may or may not have that male figure

683
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: in your life, Like I'm blessed to have my father,

684
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: but he didn't play any sports at all. Like it

685
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: wasn't you know. I'm the first of my family to

686
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: do it. And so to be able to like sit

687
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: down and be like, hey, son, this is what I've

688
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: done and how we did it, and even next to

689
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: like being able to meet the Lebron's of the world

690
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: or kds or whatever it is, like that's that's a

691
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: dope experience for him that he may not actively remember

692
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: when he's older, but like he'll see a picture and

693
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: be like, man, I was there and just kind of

694
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: you know, grasp the moment.

695
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, going.

696
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back because I was talking about

697
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: sort of the spotlight you have on you when you

698
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: play for the Lakers, and that spotlight can be kind

699
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: of like a microscope, because I think it was in

700
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: one of your first interviews after you signed with the Lakers,

701
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: you an analogy that just sent like Lakers Twitter and

702
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: NBA Twitter kind of like confused. I knew what you're saying,

703
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: but the just to requote you it was you said,

704
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: signing with the MAVs is like your mama saying it's okay,

705
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. And then the Lakers is like

706
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: your dad saying, no, you got to go out and fight.

707
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: To you when people are like, what is Spencer talking about?

708
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: Can you just like clarify that for us?

709
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically what I was saying is I made

710
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: a bully reference. Right, So basically Brooklyn would have been

711
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: a bullet whooped my ass, you know what I'm saying.

712
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: And you know, whether that was fair or not, whether

713
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: it was correct or not, it is what it is

714
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: and it happened.

715
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Right.

716
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: They sent me to Toronto basically to salary dump me,

717
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: had me cut all the other stuff like that was

718
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: the move that they did. And so now you're looking

719
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: at your NBA career and you say, okay, where what's

720
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: the next move? What's the next decision?

721
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Right?

722
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: If you look at where I've played, well, it was

723
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, and it was in Dallas, and you know Dallas.

724
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: I have a ton of friends over there, you know, Lucas,

725
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: my dog Kyrie's amazing. You know, like it would have

726
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: been like going home in a sense after you got

727
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: your ass whooped, and your mama being like it's okay, Like,

728
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. She embraced you, she gets you

729
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: a hug, like it's okay. You know what I'm saying.

730
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 3: For people that understand growing up in those type of environments,

731
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: et cetera, your dad's probably gonna be like, no, you

732
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: go back out there, you fight till you win. Like

733
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: I knew, I wasn't promised anything. I wasn't guaranteed anything

734
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: with the Lakers. I knew it was going to be

735
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: an unfamiliar environment. The microscope of the Lakers, the microscope

736
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: of lebron Championship only you know all other stuff. But

737
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: I felt like in that moment, it was best for

738
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: me to kind of say, you know what, dust yourself off,

739
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: go out there and fight, figure it out as it goes,

740
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: and you know, when the dust sells, well, see where

741
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: we're at. So that was really the only reference.

742
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: I know.

743
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: Some Dallas fans took it weird, but I was talking

744
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: about like comfort zones and all that stuff, And I

745
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: said before like that was was the most fun I

746
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: ever had in my career. We went to the Conference

747
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: finals like I was, and I was cook it from

748
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: half the time.

749
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: Second, I was like, yeah, I was.

750
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, that's type ers. I was

751
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: averaging twenty points five. It says like whatever whatever, like

752
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: you know, and obviously lucas generational. But I was out

753
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: there getting my getting my units, you know what I'm saying,

754
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: and doing whatever I wanted to as well. You know

755
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So why would I not love them?

756
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: Whold I not want to go back to I mean,

757
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: I think people saw the energy when I went to

758
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: the next game, like those are my dogs, It's my family.

759
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: You know.

760
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: I still text you know, Duds and sham got and

761
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: and some of the coaches to this day. So it's

762
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: it's not It wasn't like bad. I don't know why

763
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: it got twisted like that, Whereas like the Lakers. You know,

764
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: I knew d Loo and some of the guys, but

765
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: I didn't have like a like like corporate knowledge. I

766
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: didn't know what I was truly truly walking into. You

767
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I didn't really have any prior

768
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: relationship with Brian either.

769
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: You know that, go man, people are gonna take one

770
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: little segment out of what you say and run with it.

771
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: That just said, nature fact, So you chose Colorado as

772
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: your college. You picked them up at Harvard, Oregon, Santa

773
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: Clare you NV, Like, what made you pick Colorado out

774
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: of all those schools?

775
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: I mean really, it was just a situation where like

776
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: they wanted me, like they really really loved me. You know,

777
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: I ended up having most of the Pac twelve schools

778
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: at the end of it, But they just kind of

779
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: were like, I will take you cause you're one of

780
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: the best players in California type of thing. You know,

781
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: so they're recruiting the West coast, it's kind of like

782
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: who's next on the list we struck out on, you know,

783
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: just side Turner or you know whoever it is, right,

784
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: We'll take Spence now, Whereas Colorado, like from the jumper,

785
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: was like yo, like you're a guy, You're our centerpiece.

786
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: And you know, when I was looking at it, I

787
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 3: felt like, as long as I was in a good

788
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: conference where I could play against the best, then I'll

789
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 3: be in a situation where as long as I could

790
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: beat the other guys that were around me, and I

791
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to do so you know what I'm saying,

792
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: the green light to play, then I'd be able to

793
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: get to the NBA. And the reason why I chose

794
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: over Harvard was because I knew there was no way

795
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: I would go to the NBA quickly. Like if I

796
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 3: did do it, it'd before you years. You know, maybe

797
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: second round draft pick, you know, if not summer league shots,

798
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: some Jeremy Lynn style thing, which was cool, but like

799
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: that was what I wanted for myself. I wanted to

800
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 3: go for two years and leave and be a first

801
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: round pick. That's what I saw in my head. Like

802
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 3: I knew I wouldn't be number one or anything like that,

803
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: but I wanted to go two years, leave, be in

804
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: the first round and figure out my life.

805
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So now, like you know, Colorado was not a

806
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: football school, but you know, Deon's there and they got

807
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: it going in like Kentucky my school. He was not

808
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: a football school, but they're getting better. Like how do

809
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: you feel about that? Like how do you feel like

810
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: that's dope for the University of Colorado with Dion being

811
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: there and them getting exposure for football.

812
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: Man, that's the fire. What you mean, it's great.

813
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: I want to know because I know you've probably been

814
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: back and went to games, so I want to know,

815
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: like how how it feels because like I remember when

816
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: before I committed to Kentucky, I was they was on

817
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: my rate of Billy GLESSI was the coach, and it's

818
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: like probably two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,

819
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: I took a visit. They upset it Florida. They upset

820
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: the la You and I remember I had like the

821
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: little Trio phone, the Latrio with the pen, the little BlackBerry.

822
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: I recorded a video on it. I remember, Dad, and

823
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, they beat one the best school.

824
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: So like now Colorado's a school that everybody wants to

825
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: go to. Dion's there, and you know, like most people like, oh,

826
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: it's only a basketball school, Like how do it feel

827
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: to go back and see that love? And it supposure

828
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: at Colorado's getting.

829
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: Oh it's big time. So like when I was there,

830
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: obviously you said basketball rented and that was And but

831
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: like the older alumni, I would always talk about how football,

832
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: like back back in the day, like used to be nice,

833
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: but they got like the death piloty or whatever for

834
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: like some scandal of something. So Dion coming back or

835
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: not coming back, but Dion coming to the school, it

836
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: just has a new life and a new energy.

837
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: To it.

838
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: Like now you see buffalofootballchers everywhere. Like they said he

839
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: made like twenty thirty men or something like that, like

840
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: the first weekend for like the surrounding like stores like

841
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: mom Pop, Like it's crazy, Like he's what he's doing

842
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 3: for the like energy of the place is It's something

843
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: I've never seen like and people believe people are coming back. Uh,

844
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: all the alumni coming back. Shoot. Like I said, I

845
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: came back and watched two three games this year and

846
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be back early next year too. I gotta

847
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: be there.

848
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely going to a game. I seem like

849
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: Colorado Boys even was good this year, you know what

850
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: I mean. I think they have the kid, Jalen Williams

851
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: little brother. I'm not mistaken that's him. Yeah. So like

852
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: I mean even guys going there and there, like with

853
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: that school, with Deonna doing with the football, I think

854
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: they're getting more exposed for basketball than like people. I

855
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: want to be around this. I want to be around

856
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: this atmosphere, being around that spotlight, and I think that

857
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: changes the culture. And that's something dope he's doing. All right,

858
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, what's what do you think your future

859
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 2: hold after basketball, Like what you think you're playing into

860
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: your mindset is because you know a lot of us

861
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: athletes we think about that when our career is over, yeah,

862
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: and not think about it when we are still playing,

863
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: because you know, we never know how long this can

864
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: last and when again end.

865
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: For me, I mean, I've always been into like getting

866
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 3: scarce assets, you know. I like the crypto stuff, which

867
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: you know a lot of people kind of know by now.

868
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: I want to get into art. I have a little

869
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: business stuff that I do, but in general, I'm not

870
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: gonna lie to you with the way my career is going.

871
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a smooth year and just sleep, like

872
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: I promise you, I'm gonna go into hybridnation like I'm

873
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna figure out which.

874
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he gonna allow that he waking up early.

875
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: Come on, I'm telling you, I'm gonna be sleep for

876
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 3: a full year. This is crazy.

877
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: Spencer, you talked about how you you know, you chose Colorado,

878
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't know you actually ended

879
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: up doing a Harvard crossover program. Can you go a

880
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: little bit in detail like what that entailed and when

881
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: you did that and how you figured out how to

882
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: do that wall, you know, having an NBA career.

883
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, it was just one of those things

884
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: where you know, there are different programs you can be

885
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: a part of obviously in terms of business and stuff,

886
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: like I'm always trying to gain knowledge. I'm kind of

887
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: as you know, John just asked in terms of post career,

888
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: like you always have to have your intenans up for

889
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 3: what you're gonna do, how to make your money last

890
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: and work for you and all the other stuff for

891
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: the life you want when the ball stops bouncing. So

892
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: that was really just kind of the mentality behind it.

893
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: And then it became kind of a full circle moment

894
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: just because like I really actually could have gone there,

895
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: and so a lot of people that do different programs

896
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: or or you know, like brief stints at Harvard wouldn't

897
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: have actually gone there outside the fact that they're like,

898
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: you know, famous or whatever it may be.

899
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your shoe game because I'm

900
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: a sneakerhead. I asked John all these questions about his sneakers.

901
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: And you got a unique history with sneakers, and you

902
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: were Kobe's before you got to the league, right, but

903
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: then you came to the league, and you actually manufactured,

904
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, you manufactured your own shoes, and

905
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: then now you're with the brand three six one and

906
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: you have your own signature shoes. So can you talk

907
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: about I guess the origin of like I might do this,

908
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, you doing things differently, not just you know,

909
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: taking that check to where you know, a night Hear

910
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: and Adidas and kind of doing your own way.

911
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, right, like for people with an

912
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 3: uncharted road, I guess you can look to do things

913
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: a little bit differently. Right, So if I'd have been

914
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: a number one pick and they were putting millions on

915
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: my table immediately, like obviously that that's kind of a

916
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 3: no brainer, right in certain situations though obviously our brand

917
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 3: value is far out weighs you know, what we're gonna

918
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 3: get paid, and so you know, as a second round

919
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: pick coming off of injury and stuff, you don't really

920
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: get that much money. I think I got like maybe

921
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: fifty grand merch, fifty grand cast something like that. And

922
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: so I used to draw shoes like you know, as

923
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: a kid, just like a little you know, thing to

924
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: do whatever it was. And so as I progressed in

925
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: the league, you know, and it started. I got to

926
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: Brooklyn and started playing a little bit more, and I

927
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: started getting kind of settled in the league because I

928
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: was still wearing Nikes probably the first like maybe like

929
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: three four years of my career, Kobe specifically, because basically

930
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: all I ever wore. I was like, you know what

931
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna make my own shoes. So you know,

932
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: I did, so I played in it obviously, and doing that,

933
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 3: you kind of got to go to the stores. I

934
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: went to China multiple times, met with manufacturers, et cetera.

935
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: And one of the derivative benefits of that, outside of

936
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: making more than you know, Nike and whatever was paying

937
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: me at the time, because obviously I wasn't making no

938
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: money from them, I ended up building a relationship and

939
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: kind of some some value and some like sweat equity

940
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: with you know, China and their community over there. And

941
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: so when it came time when it came full circle

942
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: and three sixty one was trying to basically buy me

943
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: out of what I was doing, I ended up getting

944
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: you know, seven figure yearly deal on the back end,

945
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 3: from the standpoint of I had that level of fan

946
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: base and you know, rapport and all the other stuff.

947
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

948
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: And so that's why you know, I accepted, you know,

949
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 3: the buyout and the deal with through sixty one, who's

950
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: you know, one of the probably big three you know,

951
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: and trying to leaning into and through sixty one or

952
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: probably the three biggest that I know of to do

953
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: you know, basketball shoes and just sign Yo kich and stuff.

954
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: So it's big time to have a center shoe, you know,

955
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: be a part of family. And I think that the

956
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: groundwork that that experience and you know, trying to do

957
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: it my own way laid allowed me to really like

958
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: get the payoff years down the line somebody would have

959
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: never known or or foreseen.

960
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: That's dope. I ain't no none of that dope. Congrats

961
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: on that for sure. That's big time. And that's something

962
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: like that to do your own thing, to shit back bro,

963
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: like you said, and be what you was, and then

964
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: to create shoes on your own and they want to

965
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: buy you out of it and then get you a

966
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: seven figure deal out of there. I don't think a

967
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: lot of people can say that. So, you know, I mean,

968
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: most people, like you say, get to that point, they

969
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: start playing at the all star level, being the all star,

970
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 2: being in that position. So for you to do that

971
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: and bank on yourself, you know you always say your

972
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: brand sometime is bigger than what they can offer you.

973
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: So for you to do that, congratulations, Bro, that's dope

974
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: for sure.

975
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: Uh you guys, we always asked this with John's from

976
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina, huge basketball state, and Spencer you're from California.

977
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: So I want to ask both you guys, if you

978
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: were to pick the top five players from your state,

979
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: who do you think would win North Carolina versus California?

980
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: Like born and born out in the state, not not

981
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: played for North California.

982
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: Look, man, we we got the most and best hoopers

983
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: like it's but in a way though, it's unfair because

984
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: we're such a state. Yeah, we're such a large state.

985
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Like I can go, I can go all the way

986
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: up to Jay Kidd. You know what I'm saying, GP Oakland,

987
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, getting those type of

988
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: point guards. I got James Harden, you know what I mean,

989
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: Southern California. You know he had our teaser. You know

990
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: I got just people everywhere, like everywhere, Tys you can

991
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: go to Damar Damar, like.

992
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: Bro, this we got gods that true. We definitely got God.

993
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: Like I say, it's hard because California is so big,

994
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: but they can go all each other. They can go

995
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: all over the place.

996
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: They can't get Jordan's.

997
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: They got Dame.

998
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like small states, big stuff, you.

999
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying before, Like they got so much,

1000
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: Like the state is so too much bigger than North Carolina,

1001
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: like we'll hoop stated sure be. Like it's just they

1002
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: can go branch off somewhere, Like it's just too far,

1003
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: too much.

1004
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask this too because doing some research,

1005
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: we found out that you played with former Saints wide

1006
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: receiver Michael Thomas and basketball, so one of the wanted

1007
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: to know a little bit about that. Was he one

1008
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: of those guys who was like good at basketball and

1009
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: football and sort of had to decide what sport was his.

1010
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was, he was good at both. I don't

1011
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: think anybody realized he was gonna be all pro wide

1012
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: receiver though. You know he's Keys his nephew, and we

1013
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: were just like, oh, like damn yeah uncle.

1014
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: So like.

1015
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: We were just like yo, okay, Like you know, we

1016
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: had a couple guys in school that were good, you

1017
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying sports again, we didn't have guys

1018
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: necessarily you thought were like sure fire, like you know,

1019
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: number one overall type of thing. So he chose football

1020
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: and were like, oh okay, you know, but he was

1021
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: a guy that really early on had an insane work ethic.

1022
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 3: Like I credit that, like and I'm talking like sophomore, sophomore,

1023
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: junior or high school and that's you know, before I

1024
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: even really like kicked in the gear for real, like

1025
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: you know, people were working. But and some of it

1026
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: probably has to go with like he had the blueprint,

1027
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying from his uncle. Havn't done

1028
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: it like Lily Hall of Famer, but he had like

1029
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: sophomore year, he was like working and so he took

1030
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: a he took a pretty massive jump, you know, and

1031
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: then went to Ohio State. Next you know, he was

1032
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: like the best receiver in the country and everybody was

1033
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 3: like what, like where that happened? And then took that

1034
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: and obviously went to the NFL, and you know, I

1035
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: think it's first like five years was the best receiver

1036
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: in the league too, So you know, he's special. That

1037
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: was crazy, and I don't really think, yeah, I don't

1038
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 3: think anything, but juries really stopped him, you know, which

1039
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 3: is unfortunate, but you know he was murdering people. Damn,

1040
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

1041
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I got I got one more. I don't know if

1042
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: John you got one more, but mine is again going

1043
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: back to the Lakers. You know, playoffs are coming up.

1044
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you guys got brewing. What do you

1045
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: guys have to do to make a run? You know,

1046
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: what's the one.

1047
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: Thing you guys?

1048
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys are figuring it out. I

1049
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: feel like last night you getting that start, you know,

1050
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: unlock some stuff. So what do you think you personally

1051
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: got to do for the run of the playoffs and

1052
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: also for the team?

1053
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: I think for.

1054
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: Us to win a championship three through fifteen has to

1055
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: just be fine with whatever, you know what I'm saying,

1056
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: completely focused, locked in, understand game to game of changes,

1057
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: not have too many uh self expectations in a sense,

1058
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: like you can't go into the game like, damn, if

1059
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: I don't get you know, twenty, then this is a

1060
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: bad game. You gotta just go into it and be like, Okay,

1061
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 3: what's the game plan? Locked in defensive mentality and then

1062
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: and then just hoop from there, you know, what I'm saying, like,

1063
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: cause the two the two Juggernaut's gonna do what they do,

1064
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: you feel me, But three through fifteen has to be

1065
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: you know, sacrificial in mindset of like what does the

1066
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: team need? And sometimes it's gonna be scoring. So you

1067
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, you can't be gunshy, you can't

1068
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: be scared in that stuff. Like you gotta be ready

1069
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: if that's your game, to be that guy. But at

1070
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: the same time, like you gotta think about taking charges,

1071
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 3: not missing rotations, not missing assignments, getting extra rebounds, maybe

1072
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: getting tapouts. You know, if you can't get three bounds whatever,

1073
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: it may be right diving them for whatever. And I

1074
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: know that sounds cliche, but with the way our team's made,

1075
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: that's kind of how that's to be. And you know,

1076
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: the like I said, the most sens I had was

1077
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: the conference finals run with Dallas, and you know, if

1078
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: you look at it, we had three dudes who were cooking,

1079
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Luca, JB and myself, And

1080
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: then four through fifteen never missed an assignment. They were

1081
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: getting every chase down, block, every charge, they were picking

1082
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 3: up ninety four whatever it was, and so sometimes some

1083
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: teams is two, sometimes some teams is three. Really we

1084
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: obviously have a really really big two. You can argue

1085
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: that Delo's part of a big three, but it is

1086
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: a little bit different. It's from the standpoint of like

1087
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: those two are full blown Hall of Famers, right, So

1088
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 3: not to you know, discredit my teammate Dealo at all,

1089
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: because he's been cooking, he's been on insane he did

1090
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: for the last like twentys going crazy and deserves everything

1091
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 3: that he's doing and getting and back from the Brooklyn

1092
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: days we made the All Star team. He's been hooping.

1093
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: But you still have two full blown Hall of Famers

1094
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 3: and basically three through fifteen is all around that, you know.

1095
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: So that's all you really got to do, you know,

1096
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: and then let the talent take over when it does.

1097
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you got Lebron and Anthony Davis, like you

1098
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 3: got a puncher's chance in any game against any team

1099
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: or any night in any arena.

1100
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: That more than you said about that, you know what

1101
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: I'm saying. When you got that for sure, you know,

1102
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean, like, because you've seen both of those guys

1103
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: take over and win games at any moment by themself

1104
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: and That's the key, Like I always say in the playoffs,

1105
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: when your role players know they roll and can play well,

1106
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 2: especially on the road. At home role players play great.

1107
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: They ain't missing nothing on the rod when they can

1108
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 2: slid itfy. Still a game or two for you changes

1109
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: the whole dynamic of a serious I.

1110
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: Mean that's in the first round with Dallas, it was

1111
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: like that one of the games wasn't that one of

1112
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: the games wasn't home that we lost, but Luke was

1113
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: hurt for the first three games. We went up to one,

1114
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 3: like because, like I said, at that point in time,

1115
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: three through fifteen was locked in and me and JB

1116
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: were out there just arizon, you know what I'm saying.

1117
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: JB had like a forty ball then I had like

1118
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: eighteen and ten one game something like that, like you know,

1119
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: So it was like we were doing what we had

1120
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: to do it just being in attack mode and fearless.

1121
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: But three through fifteen was not missing an assignment, and

1122
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: so we went up three to one, gave Luke a

1123
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: chance to rest, and so you know, if you look

1124
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: at this team again, it's it's the same type of

1125
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: vibe from from that standpoint, like ad gets thirty and fifteen,

1126
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: Like quieter than anybody I've ever seen my life. You

1127
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: just look up at the at the like jumbo trying

1128
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: you like, how the hell you got thirty?

1129
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: It is crazy when that happened.

1130
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: Put back like just pre throwing you like everywhere you

1131
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: might look and think he got eighteen of fifteen.

1132
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: Facts like Lebron sports now you know what I mean,

1133
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: like dunking and yelling and shit like. So when he

1134
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: got thirty, you know he got thirty, you feel me

1135
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: like ad like you just look at you like, but yeah,

1136
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: thirty six fifteen, seven blocks, three steals. What you know

1137
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, it's insane.

1138
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy disrespectful that people don't say he's like

1139
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: in contention for Defensive Player of the Year at least,

1140
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1141
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: It's like, oh for sure, But.

1142
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: Spencer, we appreciate you coming on the show. One last

1143
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: question again is for me personally, do you want to

1144
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: stay a Laker?

1145
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: Oh that that that'd be love. I mean, yeah, that'd

1146
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: be a dream coach doing for the hometown. Yeah for sure.

1147
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: All right, Spencer, Well, good luck man with the rest

1148
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: of the season. This has been point game. We're gonna

1149
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: take a break and we're gonna come back with Bucketer Brick.

1150
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: But thank you again, Spencer, din Wi you.

1151
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: Everyoneci Spence, good luck bro Thank you guys.

1152
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to point game with John Wall

1153
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: and CJ. Toldonnald presented by DraftKings, It's that time again

1154
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: to play Bucketer Brick. As a reminder, Bucket Brick is

1155
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,080
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1159
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: The crown is yours, as normal or as usual. Sorry,

1160
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: I will make a statement and if you agree, John

1161
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: will say Bucket if he disagrees. If he disagrees, He's

1162
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna say brick Man.

1163
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: If he disagrees.

1164
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: So let's start with the NCAA Tournament. Houston is a

1165
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: number one seed and had a crazy overtime win on

1166
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: Sunday night. The current odds to win it are plus

1167
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: five hundred, which means if you bet one hundred, you

1168
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: can win five hundred. So Bucket or Brick, Houston will

1169
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: win the NCAA tournament.

1170
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: Brick, don't thing they'll win it. They're a great team.

1171
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: I love coach Sampson. I love the way they playing.

1172
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 2: They won the best defensive teams. I just don't see

1173
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: him winning at all. They always get so close and

1174
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: be right here, I just don't see him winning at

1175
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: all this year.

1176
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: I love it, all right, we built in some bricks

1177
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: in here. We knew, we knew you were gonna say that.

1178
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: All right, moving on, Okay, so this is why I

1179
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: said I don't I don't mean to make you keep

1180
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: reliving this, but Kentucky nemesis Jack Golkie will play in

1181
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: the NBA. HM, the dude Jack Golkie who was hitting

1182
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: the threes on Kentucky. You said, what you think he'll

1183
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: playing the.

1184
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: NBA, Brick, I don't see him playing the NBA. But

1185
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: he had his one shining moment, so that's all that matters.

1186
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: He had his one shining moment, he got on the spotlight.

1187
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: He had the hell of a game, came back next night,

1188
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: even had another good game. I mean, so I don't

1189
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: see him playing the NBA. But he did what he

1190
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: had to do. He had one shine in moment. He

1191
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: got a big win for school, and they had a

1192
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: heck of a game for the next round and almost won.

1193
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Brick there, all right, we just had on Spencer.

1194
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: So the Lakers are favored when it comes to foul calls.

1195
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: Bucket or Brick Bucket, I think they lead the league

1196
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: in the most free throws if I'm not mistaken.

1197
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: But you know the explanation.

1198
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 2: Though you asked me a question, I said, Bucket said, Bucket,

1199
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: I think, like, see the tough part is and this

1200
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: would I always say. It's like bron can basically get

1201
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 2: the foul call every time he drive to the basket.

1202
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: I feel the same way when I played Russell Western

1203
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: felt the same way when he was Okay, see the

1204
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: way he was playing. We was not jump shooters a

1205
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: lot earlier on our career. We attacked the basket all

1206
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: the time. So you're putting a lot of pressure on

1207
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: officials to make calls, and sometimes you don't get those whistles,

1208
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So you end up missing shots.

1209
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: But they get a lot of calls though for the team,

1210
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: they get a lot of calls.

1211
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: So, okay, Bucket, all right, next one, Zion, it has

1212
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: been straight up balling. He's I honestly think he's playing

1213
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: some of the best basketball of his career. So I'm curious,

1214
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: Bucket or Brick the New Orleans Pelicans will make the

1215
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: Western Conference finals.

1216
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: Brick, I think just too many loaded teams over there.

1217
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: They're a great team. They figuring out what they want

1218
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: to do. Hope by I can come back and get healthy,

1219
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: you know, I mean as soon as possible. Could you

1220
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: know that can help them. They can mess them up

1221
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: and drop it and see it and then get a

1222
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: bad matchup. But I still just got Danfer. You got

1223
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 2: Minnesota up there, Okay, so he's playing well. We don't

1224
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 2: know how they would do in the playoffs, but they're

1225
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: a great team. Shaye has them rolling. They play at

1226
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: a high level. You still can't forget those teams like

1227
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: the Lake are the wars that they get in. You

1228
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: still have the Clippers that's up there when they're healthy,

1229
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 2: and you still have Feelish you have to worry about.

1230
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 2: So I don't see them making the Western Commence finals.

1231
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: But I think for sure they'll make the playoffs, and

1232
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: I think they can make it to the second round,

1233
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: depending on what matchup they have.

1234
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: Do you think they're a piece away and what would

1235
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: that piece be.

1236
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: I think the hard part is, and a lot of

1237
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: people might not like me for this, but the tough

1238
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: party is you have Zion Wings and that's dominant, but

1239
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 2: he needs the basketball. Yeah, excuse me brandon Ingram's domin.

1240
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: You know he's from North Carolina, North Carolina guy, he

1241
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: needs the basketball. So I think they kind of kind

1242
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: of figure out who they want to keep between those two.

1243
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: Interesting and c J McCollum is nice. I love HERB

1244
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: Jones been on their team, but I think they got

1245
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: to figure out which one they want to keep between

1246
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: those two because you know what I'm said, When you

1247
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: got guys that is both talented, both great at a

1248
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: high level, it's kind of hard to have three guys

1249
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: in his ball dominant, know what I mean. C J mccullums.

1250
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: He can play out the ball because he's a knockdown

1251
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: shooter and he can run pick and roll. But I

1252
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 2: think between Zion and b I kind of tough because

1253
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: they kind of end of the game, Oh do I

1254
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: get the ball to? Who do I have as my closer?

1255
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: I think that's the tough decision they have to figure out.

1256
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I had one last one because I wanted

1257
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to them. I watched the

1258
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: LSU play yesterday with the women's and they look tough.

1259
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: Man and so I know you picked South Carolina to

1260
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: win it all, So bucket or brick, is South Carolina

1261
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: still your pick to win the bucket?

1262
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: They're beating everybody by almost fifty right now. I know,

1263
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: like LA's us a great team. And I mean, like

1264
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, Andelish is great. FLA. J. Johnson

1265
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: is great. To have other freshmen that's great. I can't

1266
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 2: pronounce name the great transfer for LSU. She, I mean Louisville,

1267
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: she's good. South Carolina got a lot of freshmen. But

1268
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 2: I just feel like they're dominant team. I love don

1269
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: ste I love what she brings to the game of

1270
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: basketball for the women's side of somebody that's played in

1271
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 2: the w BNBA being a coach, you know, I mean,

1272
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: it's being great. I just think they're domini. I mean

1273
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: L's is a great team. But I mean, shout out

1274
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: to Page Becker, She's playing at the high level right now.

1275
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: Juju is playing well. I mean, so shout out to

1276
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: all the women that's doing anything. I'm definitely going to

1277
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: support and watch as much as like, but I still

1278
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: have South Carolina's my favorite to win it for the

1279
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 2: women's side.

1280
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's a bucket right there with your peak. Honestly,

1281
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: my pick is Iowa. I just you know, Caitlyn got

1282
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: me back into watching it, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm super excited for Clayton Clark. I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 2: But she made it last year. You never know what

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Speaker 1: It's definitely I know we were talking about earlier of

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited to watch both sides for sure. John,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to you know, we've been telling fans to

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Speaker 1: To ask questions to keep sharing our stuff, any other

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