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Speaker 1: So let's talk about let's talk about that there could

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Speaker 1: be at least there could be five actresses on the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills at one time. So you're

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Speaker 1: talking about a genre that started as something that's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be real. And we used to get so frustrated

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Speaker 1: at the Hills and that's why, like the last scene

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Speaker 1: ever was the Hollywood Sign. So they're kind of like

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Speaker 1: winking at us, going was it real or or was

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Speaker 1: it not? And I had Heidi and Spencer on my show,

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Speaker 1: a talk show, and they talked about like being awarded

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Speaker 1: a burken for him throwing her out of the car

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Speaker 1: and they're married a thousand years later, So like that

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it must have really happened, and how

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Speaker 1: it was semi scripted more than The Housewives, which is

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Speaker 1: quote unquote real, But is it because you have actresses

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Speaker 1: playing the role of roles of people being real, And

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Speaker 1: if you layer it even more deeply, you have people

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Speaker 1: wearing costs. When I started, you were wearing somebody like

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing right now, just like semi casual and realistic

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Speaker 1: to where you were. You aren't wearing ball gowns and

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Speaker 1: costumes to lobbies or your own balcony off your room

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Speaker 1: where no one's going to see you. And Beverly Hills

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Speaker 1: was the first city to really say, well, we're entertaining

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Speaker 1: an audience, so I'm not going just to my balcony

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Speaker 1: dressed up. I'm going into America, so I'm gonna wear

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Speaker 1: a costume ball gown. And Erika Jane gets the award

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Speaker 1: for starting that. She started that. Dori it was second.

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Speaker 1: Lisa kind of was like a copycat of them, like

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Speaker 1: it seemed like more of a real like costume with

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Speaker 1: like weird wigs and things like. It didn't land as much,

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Speaker 1: and then the other girls all fell in too. You

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Speaker 1: see outlandish outfits from pretty much everyone, and even Kyle

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Speaker 1: kind of jumped on the bandwagon late. And Beverly Hills

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Speaker 1: is where you see like f's all over your Alpha

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Speaker 1: Gee's ces logos. Every bag has a price tag and

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Speaker 1: a shot of the airma's bag and the house. I

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Speaker 1: puts it right in front of the camera so the

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Speaker 1: camera sees it. I mean, it's like dripping and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't look comfortable. So when I watch Dorit and Erica

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Speaker 1: in Italy on a trip, they look like they're uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: They don't look like like even Erica is uncomfortable in

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Speaker 1: her hat in the car, like I thought the fashion

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Speaker 1: was supposed to seem comfortable on some level, I know

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Speaker 1: beauty is pain. But Coco Chanell said, dress shabbily. They

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Speaker 1: notice the dress, dress impeccably. They noticed the woman. And

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Speaker 1: I see that we're noticing the dress with Dorit and

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Speaker 1: Erica and Lisa Renna, and we're noticing the makeup. We

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Speaker 1: don't notice the women. We notice like the dress. So

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Speaker 1: if dressed shabbily they notice the dress by Coco Chanell

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Speaker 1: is the right quote. Then I don't think the girls

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Speaker 1: are landing the fashion because it doesn't look like fashion.

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Speaker 1: It looks like costumes and discomfort. And I wish Anna

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Speaker 1: Winter would comment because I think she'd be on my

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Speaker 1: side of this argument. It just looks like you're putting

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Speaker 1: on like a costume. Crazy, crazy,