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Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to overtime. Here on the Colts Audio Network Desk,

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Speaker 3: episode of OT coming to You immediately after Round one

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft pass concluded.

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Speaker 3: I'm Matt Taylor here, joined by Rick vent Turrey, and

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Speaker 3: we just got done again with the first round of

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Speaker 3: but it's it's kind of empty now. It's just usreck,

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Speaker 1: But the big news of the night in terms of

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Speaker 3: With the fifteenth overall selection, the Colts drafted Leat too

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Speaker 3: late to defensive end out of UCLA. In fact, tonight

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Speaker 2: That was a little surprising to me. But at the

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Speaker 2: which I don't have any doubt about, and he's the

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Speaker 3: And a lot of wide receivers went off the board

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Speaker 2: but they could make us better. Coleman Franklin. Franklin that

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 3: We just wrapped up the first round of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: What other big takeaways that you have from the first round,

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Speaker 3: Well, to wrap up here, I'm gonna ask you what's

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Speaker 3: You might be listening to this on Friday, But yeah,

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Speaker 2: What I'd like for him to do is get in

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Speaker 1: Now, all right, my friend, well done tonight. We see

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Speaker 3: It was a blast, absolutely, Tomorrow might be today, depending

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Speaker 3: on what's in taking overtime here with Rick vent Tury.

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Speaker 3: I'm Matt Taylor, and like we said, we'll be back

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Speaker 3: on radio and Colts dot Com and the Colts Mobile

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Speaker 3: But again, as always, we'll be streaming Colts dot Com

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