WEBVTT - Tragedy in Utah - September 10th, Hour 2

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, our two Sean Hannity Show. Here's a total free number.

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<v Speaker 1>It's eight hundred and nine four one Sean. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of the program, if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any updates as it relates to the news

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, if you're just joining us. Charlie Kirk,

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<v Speaker 1>who we all know very well in this program, Turning Point, USA,

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<v Speaker 1>was shot during a campus event earlier today at Utah

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<v Speaker 1>Valley University. Ap is reporting is in critical condition. A

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<v Speaker 1>man has been taken into custody. We're updating you. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to update you on that in a second apparently

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<v Speaker 1>known to my friend and hosts at KNRS are affiliate

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<v Speaker 1>in Salt Lake City. We've been friends for decades, Rod Arquette.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to him in a minute. We're also following

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<v Speaker 1>another shooting story, unfortunately, this one out of Colorado. Multiple

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<v Speaker 1>arrests apparently have been made here at Evergreen High School

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado. At least two students have been injured there,

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<v Speaker 1>other victims hospitalized, and authorities obviously investigating that we get

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<v Speaker 1>more details on that shooting, we'll we'll bring you up

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<v Speaker 1>to speeds as quickly as possible. Anyway we bring back

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<v Speaker 1>rod our Quette. Rod our Quette and I go back

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<v Speaker 1>many many years together. We he used to be my

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<v Speaker 1>boss when I was at the ex Wife station until

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<v Speaker 1>we made the number one station on KNRS one oh

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<v Speaker 1>five point nine in Salt Lake. But we've had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good times together, and he knows the area

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<v Speaker 1>so well and the people are so well. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that always sticks out in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind about Salt Lake City, you know, rod is I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never forget. I felt like I was always going back

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<v Speaker 1>in time. I felt like it was reminiscent and in

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<v Speaker 1>a good way, in every good way. I remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being part of a parade one year with one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Stadium of Fire events, which was, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest events ever put on anywhere in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and just walking down the street it's felt

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<v Speaker 1>like circa nineteen fifties USA. But you know, we've also had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you guys, like every other city and every

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<v Speaker 1>other area across the country, we're dealing with this crime problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in small towns in big cities. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>the mindset that has led us to defund the police,

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<v Speaker 1>dismantle the police. No bail laws. Reimagine it's not applicable

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<v Speaker 1>to this event. But we can restore law and order.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the President proved that with Washington d C.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you can't stop evil. And it seems that

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<v Speaker 1>apparently we have what appears to be the man that

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<v Speaker 1>took this shot on Charlie is in custody. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>multiple callers call in a guy in a blue shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>older gentleman. You have looked at that video. This is somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to mention names that person that is

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<v Speaker 1>again not confirmed, but is somebody that's familiar to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he is. And matter of fact, since we talked

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<v Speaker 2>originally a few minutes ago, we have noun seen video

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<v Speaker 2>of a second person earlier being taken into custody as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So there may be two suspects. The person you refer two,

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<v Speaker 2>this gentleman who was who we saw initially, and we

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<v Speaker 2>saw video of him on the ground in handcuffs, police

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<v Speaker 2>surrounding him, something like this. Then a short time later

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<v Speaker 2>we saw second video of police hauling a guy into

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<v Speaker 2>the back of an suv. They've got him by his

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<v Speaker 2>arms and legs. They're carrying him in this van. He

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<v Speaker 2>may be the suspect. Now since then, we have learned

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<v Speaker 2>the university has issued a statement. They're indicating the shot

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<v Speaker 2>may have been fired from a nearby building about two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards away.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing let me I can add some context to that

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<v Speaker 1>because Newsweek is reporting at this hour that the university

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<v Speaker 1>released a preliminary number details following this reported shooting of

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie And according to a university spokesman who spoke to Newsweek,

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk began speaking around one pm that would be local

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<v Speaker 1>time in Utah. In Salt Lake City, at approximately one

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<v Speaker 1>twenty pm, a single shot fired from the top of

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<v Speaker 1>a nearby building roughly two hundred yards away from the venue,

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<v Speaker 1>which it would not be a far shot for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that knows how to shoot a rifle. The university confirming

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<v Speaker 1>that he was struck. The suspect is now in custody.

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<v Speaker 1>One other thing we can update you on, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is directly from the Associated Press, that Charlie Kirk CEO,

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<v Speaker 1>co founder of Turning Point USA, is in critical condition

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<v Speaker 1>at a Utah hospital as of now. While going back

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ten minutes ago, after being shot at a college event,

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<v Speaker 1>videos posted on social media from Utah Valley Universe the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk speaking into a handheld microphone while sitting under a

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<v Speaker 1>white tent and blazon with slogans the American comeback, proved

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, and a single shot that seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a consistent yes, refrain and report rang out, and Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>can be seen reaching up with his right hand as

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<v Speaker 1>a I mean the blood. You can see the video.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a close There was a video of close

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<v Speaker 1>up taken and blood gushing from the the side of

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<v Speaker 1>his neck, stunning spectators. But anyway, continue what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and seohn. If if that is the case, and

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<v Speaker 2>the university obviously has now confirmed it, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>unlikely that the individual we know would have been on

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<v Speaker 2>that building. My guess is he's one of these guys

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<v Speaker 2>who's always in the crowd. You see me, He usually

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<v Speaker 2>is right up front. So that would lead us to

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<v Speaker 2>lead the other suspect, who we do not know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was to get in custody. That could be the

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<v Speaker 2>individual who may have fired that shot from the college building.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, you've got two people who are taken

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<v Speaker 2>into custody. One we know, we think we know, the

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<v Speaker 2>other we don't know. And that's where we stand today.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're hearing the same thing about Charlie Kirk. He's stabilized,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's still listed of course in critical condition. And

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<v Speaker 2>we can all just open pray that Charlie Kirk will

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<v Speaker 2>be okay because he has done so much for this

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<v Speaker 2>country and engaging especially young people in politics and talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the issues. We need voices like him, and only

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully he'll still be there.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, this just breaking. And again this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a rush to be first. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pass on information as it becomes available. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we can't confirm, but we are using legitimate sources. Now

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times, just to be very clear reporting

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<v Speaker 1>the police have determined the man taken into custody was

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<v Speaker 1>not the shooter. I'm assuming they're talking about the guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the blue shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the guy we know is in the blue shirt. Now, Sean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've seen this, but John Solomon

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<v Speaker 2>and Just the News is reporting that Charlie Kirk is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>That's coming from John Solomon with Just the News.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty god, I've never wanted my friend John Solomon be

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<v Speaker 1>to be more wrong than now. Yeah, pretty god, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>The headline read, Charlie kirk get at thirty one after

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<v Speaker 2>shooting at Utah event. Three officials confirmed that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>just seeing coming across right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been getting texts from sources that have been saying

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<v Speaker 1>this that are credible. John says it's true. When they

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<v Speaker 1>just talked to him. Yeah, Rod, stay right there, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Tyson. Our friend is with us. Doctor Tyson. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw the video. And then we did have a young

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<v Speaker 1>girl that was an eyewitness in front of that stage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very hard to talk about, and she said that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, people they started carrying him out, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at that close up video, If you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the video, you can see that the blood

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<v Speaker 1>was gushing out of his neck. If you don't immediately

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<v Speaker 1>stop that bleeding, I don't know how you don't bleed out.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was my fear from the second I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that video. My hope was that there might be paramedics there,

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<v Speaker 1>skilled professionals that would be able to, you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>triage and stop that bleeding immediately, because that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>would need, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I look at the video. I've done

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<v Speaker 3>her medicine for quite some time, thirteen years of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it does look like a severe traumatic wound to

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<v Speaker 3>the left side of the neck, likely involving the common

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<v Speaker 3>carotid artery and probably even the internal external jugular veins.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a tremendous amount of blood coming out which

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<v Speaker 3>would have needed to be compressed immediately in hopes that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you can at least tamping on off the

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<v Speaker 3>continued flow of blood. Unfortunately, the curated artery comes right

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<v Speaker 3>off the orda and so it's a it's an extremely

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<v Speaker 3>high pressure vessel, and if it did hit the crodit artery,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm afraid what you're saying is probably most likely true.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the video that I have seen? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you had an opportunity to see it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've seen it, and I've seen a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>different angles as well.

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<v Speaker 1>How much time would you have if you were if

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<v Speaker 1>you were on the scene, and we've been friends a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, doctor Tyson, if you were on the scene

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<v Speaker 1>and you were there and you could get right in there,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you do and would you be able to

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<v Speaker 1>save him?

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<v Speaker 3>It would be so you you have to put immediate pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got minutes if if if that with with a

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<v Speaker 3>wound that size, would I have been able to save him? Not?

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<v Speaker 3>Not likely. If it hit the card common cordit artery,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to put a lot of pressure, which would

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<v Speaker 3>then compromise his airway. You would need to have an intivation. Kid,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd have to have basically surgeons on site. That's that's

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<v Speaker 3>a that's a very very traumatic gunshot wound.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. When you said, when I saw it, I just couldn't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just common sense takes over and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do this, you know, you you really can't.

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<v Speaker 4>We are.

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<v Speaker 3>He's you know, we've we've spent time with Charlie on

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<v Speaker 3>multiple occasions, and I'm I'm heartbroke.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm heart broke to doctor Tyson. I wish somebody

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<v Speaker 1>like you was there that would have given him, that

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<v Speaker 1>would give him the best shot. Maybe there was. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still hoping upon hope that it might be a chance

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<v Speaker 1>that he's surviving. Rod. What are people telling you there?

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<v Speaker 5>Rod?

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<v Speaker 1>Arquette will go back to Rod.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there we're getting Yeah, I'm here, I'm here. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you hear me, Sean, I can hear you?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, we're getting the same information you had we

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<v Speaker 2>had earlier reports that he was in critical condition and stabilized.

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<v Speaker 2>But as we just mentioned, John Solomon reporting that Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk has died at the age of thirty one. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>see no other reports come in as of yet. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know John very well, John's a reliable source, and

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<v Speaker 2>if he's getting that information, I think we can we

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<v Speaker 2>can understand that what he's saying is in fact fact.

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<v Speaker 2>And what a sad, sad day.

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<v Speaker 4>Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had a chance to meet Charlie, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've been very close to him and have worked

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<v Speaker 2>with him over the years. And just a very very

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<v Speaker 2>sad story, tragic day.

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<v Speaker 1>When you hear, you know, from doctor Tyson, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the video and then he describes how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and what you would need to do to survive

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<v Speaker 1>a shot like that. It is a very sad, tragic day.

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<v Speaker 1>And this man has done this young man has done

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<v Speaker 1>so much good in his life. And we're praying upon

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<v Speaker 1>all hope that maybe this report is not accurate. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not looking good. That video did not look good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break. We'll come back well more.

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<v Speaker 1>Rod will be back with us. We do have people

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<v Speaker 1>that were at the event. They will share what they saw.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have more medical updates, and we're following the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie kirk shot at Utah Valley University earlier today. Our

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<v Speaker 1>prayers are with him and his family.

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<v Speaker 6>John Hannity.

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<v Speaker 4>Little friends with Charlie.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's talk about Charlie the man for a moment. You

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<v Speaker 6>might have heard me talking a little bit earlier about

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<v Speaker 6>how supportive he is of everyone. I'm sure of you,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure of me. He is a family man, he

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<v Speaker 6>is a father, he is a Christian, a true believer

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<v Speaker 6>in Jesus Christ. Tell us about the man, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Charlie kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie is a force of nature that some of Fox's coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have a lot of people calling in and

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<v Speaker 1>Rod Arquette, who's been very gracious. We've been friends a

0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.960
<v Speaker 1>long time, Rod, and you know, normally we would be

0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:16.960
<v Speaker 1>joking about, you know, Crown Burger and our fun times together,

0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.640
<v Speaker 1>or the time somebody threw a book at me. It seems,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it seems rather small in light of the

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<v Speaker 1>events of today. If you're just joining us, Charlie Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>is has been shot during an event at Utah Valley

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<v Speaker 1>University is a very bad shot. There are reports that

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<v Speaker 1>he's in critical condition. Just thenews dot Com is reporting

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<v Speaker 1>that he has passed. We have not been able to

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<v Speaker 1>independently corroborate it, so I want to be very careful.

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<v Speaker 1>Newsweek is reporting that the alleged shooter fired from the

0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:59.440
<v Speaker 1>top of a building two hundred yards away. There is

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<v Speaker 1>very very graphic video online of the shooting and what

0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is basically blood gushing out of what looks like Charlie's neck.

0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:14.480
<v Speaker 1>It looks like it hit the carotid artery, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you know in my martial arts training. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>targeted strike because of the heavy blood flow in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>You just had doctor Tyson, Brian Tyson on the program

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<v Speaker 1>what it would take to save somebody's life if in

0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.840
<v Speaker 1>fact it was the carotid. We got into that, Rod,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can stay with us. We have Brian in

0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Utah apparently was at the event. Brian, what did you see?

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<v Speaker 1>Where were you? Brian? Are you there? I guess Brian

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<v Speaker 1>will put Brian on hold. It looks like he's no,

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<v Speaker 1>not Rod, I'm looking for I've went to Brian in Utah. Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>are you there? Brian's not there? Taylor in Utah. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you there, Yeah, I'm here, Sean. So tell me what

0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you've been hearing and what you saw. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>this is your alma mater.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So I graduated from UVU in twenty eighteen. I

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<v Speaker 5>was vice president of College Republicans at UVU and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>disgusted and part of my outrage obviously Rod isn't associated

0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.400
<v Speaker 5>with this, because k and RS is fantastic, But I'm

0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.119
<v Speaker 5>really disgusted with the local media here. They have painted

0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.560
<v Speaker 5>Charlie as white supremacist, this evil person. And I put

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<v Speaker 5>some of the blame on the local media because they

0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:41.280
<v Speaker 5>painted well.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been they were saying that in the lead up

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<v Speaker 1>to this event, or saying it since he got shot.

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<v Speaker 5>No, there were some articles from some of the local

0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.680
<v Speaker 5>media here saying how bad he was, and I put

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<v Speaker 5>some of the blame on them because that riles some

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<v Speaker 5>of the very small minority here in Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you hear this all the time. I mean

0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 1>there's this false narrative, false characterization. I mean the rhetoric

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on the left about Donald Trump and his family and conservatives.

0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.040
<v Speaker 1>We had, we had Eric Trump on for an extended

0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.760
<v Speaker 1>period today and all that he has been through and

0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>his family has been through, and I'm talking about his brothers,

0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about his sister, I'm talking about Millennia. By

0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the way, stations along the Sean Hannity Show radio network,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to continue our live coverage Charlie Kirk, according

0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to one report, in critical condition. That is our hope

0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 1>at this time. Other news organizations have not followed through

0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.800
<v Speaker 1>on just thenews dot COM's early reporting, and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going to hope upon hope that that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Brian in Utah, I guess was at the

0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.720
<v Speaker 1>university event. Brian, you were there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I am here, Sean. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 4>taking my call. It was so just to go back

0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.320
<v Speaker 4>for your asking a moment ago. I was actually worth

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<v Speaker 4>on the north side of the event, up on the terrace,

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<v Speaker 4>the second floor terrace. The crowd was so crowded by

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<v Speaker 4>the time I got there, I couldn't get any closer

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.080
<v Speaker 4>to the crowd, and so as I was there, I

0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.760
<v Speaker 4>couldn't really hear the proceedings from that far back, and

0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:14.199
<v Speaker 4>so I decided to go down the first floor and

0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:15.920
<v Speaker 4>there's a tent that was actually in the videos that

0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.760
<v Speaker 4>were shown on Fox News. As people were starting to scatter,

0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.159
<v Speaker 4>and I was right behind that tent there as a

0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.479
<v Speaker 4>shot rang. So there was a single shot, and there

0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.240
<v Speaker 4>was definitely not a security presence there, hardly except for

0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.600
<v Speaker 4>a couple officers that I saw directly behind and above

0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.000
<v Speaker 4>where Charlie Kirk was standing. I didn't see the impact

0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.199
<v Speaker 4>of the bullets, but it was just chaos and there

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<v Speaker 4>were people saying I saw him a shot in the neck,

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<v Speaker 4>and then everyone just started fleeing in into the buildings

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<v Speaker 4>and then out, and it literally took over ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you stay long enough to see, because, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it is very graphic the video online of the moment

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.359
<v Speaker 1>he got shot, and it looked like he got hit

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.360
<v Speaker 1>in the carott at artery and it was like a gusher,

0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was I mean, blood was shooting out

0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.919
<v Speaker 1>of his neck, which indicates that he was bleeding out

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:07.520
<v Speaker 1>very fast. Did you see anybody attend to him and

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.919
<v Speaker 1>put pressure on that neck? Did you see any medical

0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 1>attention at all going on? What did they do?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see anything, But by the time I heard

0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 4>the gunshot and I was behind that tent area, we

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.440
<v Speaker 4>were just scrambling. But literally there was not the medical personnel.

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.120
<v Speaker 4>There was no one there. It took at least ten

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.680
<v Speaker 4>minutes for personnel where could start where I was leaving

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.760
<v Speaker 4>and evacuuting from the campus because they were getting everyone out,

0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.320
<v Speaker 4>and I was going across the freeway there on the

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 4>little pedestrian walkway with hundreds of hundreds of students, and

0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 4>you finally started hearing science coming towards the campus and

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.679
<v Speaker 4>I saw fire truck and stuff. So it was it

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.920
<v Speaker 4>was not an instant response either. It took time for

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 4>emergency personnel to respond and get there. So I and

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm just hoping it's just as much as everyone else

0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.560
<v Speaker 4>out there that hopefully he's okay, but it sounds like

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.160
<v Speaker 4>you may not be able to just contain to pray

0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:51.199
<v Speaker 4>for him and his family. And thank you so much

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<v Speaker 4>for your time, Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>No, thank you for calling, and we really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank everybody in Utah that has called in,

0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.480
<v Speaker 1>all the people that have been at the event. You

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.880
<v Speaker 1>know badly in moments like this, there are people that

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.240
<v Speaker 1>like to call in and spoof radio shows as if

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.119
<v Speaker 1>that's a funny moment to do it. A man, a father,

0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a husband who's only thirty one years old, was shot

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.320
<v Speaker 1>severely in his corotide artery and we've got to get

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of this. Let me go back again

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to Brian Tyson. Then we'll check in with my friend

0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Rod Arquette with our affiliate kN RS out in Utah

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<v Speaker 1>in Salt Lake. Brian, let me go back again, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's now the second call that we've had of an

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 1>eyewitness that says there was not immediate medical attention. And

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>based on the video that we have, let's go through

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.639
<v Speaker 1>this again in detail, what would need to happen and

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<v Speaker 1>how quickly based on the video that you saw.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, based on a video that we saw,

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Speaker 3>definitely pressure needed to be applied to the open wound immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>There's three main vessels in the part of the nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>You have the common carotid artery that runs up to

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<v Speaker 3>the brain. Then you have the two main internal and

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 3>external jugular vessels that come down from the brain. You know,

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 3>in a hopeful world, the we would hope that the

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 3>bullet missed the carotid artery, and actually what we saw

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 3>was venus bleeding from a main vessel from probably the

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:31.199
<v Speaker 3>external caroate or from the external jugular vein. If that

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:36.879
<v Speaker 3>were the case, putting pressure on that area, even even

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:42.959
<v Speaker 3>just handheld pressure could be enough to save off any

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 3>further bleeding at that point in time. That would be

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:52.760
<v Speaker 3>the ideal scenario in in a in a instance like this,

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.399
<v Speaker 3>if it did hit in fact hit the carotid artery,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like there would be any chance of

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<v Speaker 3>survival at that point with no medical attention on scene

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 3>for ten minutes.

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>And Brian again walk us through. If you were there

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 1>behind the tent, you saw what happened, you saw the

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 1>blood gushing out the way it was, what would be

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>the treatment that you would you would undertake in that moment.

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean the biggest treatment is you have to you

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.880
<v Speaker 3>have to apply pressure, so you wouldn't need to put pressure,

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 3>stabilize the neck, get in with a get an airway

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 3>in him as soon as possible, in tobate, make sure

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 3>that there was no damage structurally to the trachea or

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 3>anything else with a gunshot room of that nature. Also

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:47.920
<v Speaker 3>worrying about maybe you know, data hit the cervical spine

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 3>or there any spinal core damage, So you have to

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 3>stabilize the sea spines as well. But you the pressure

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 3>is the main thing get the vessels, uh to to

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<v Speaker 3>close tampan on those off if you could, you know,

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 3>but I mean, you know, medical in the field, it's

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 3>not like you can, you know, take a needle and

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 3>tie off an artery. So it's just compression, airway protection ceasepying,

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 3>stabilization and then getting into a trauma center where the

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 3>trauma surgeons can then take them to the e R

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 3>and tie off those vessels and then hopefully the collateral

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 3>circulation from the other side will take care of the

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 3>brain and any any of the vital structures in the

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 3>in the head at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>We really appreciate your expertise, Doctor Brian Tyson. Thank you

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're just joining us. Charley Kirk was shot during

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a Turning Point USA event. This was an arm Utah.

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been there by the way, It's a beautiful part

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>of the country. The suspect is in facting in custody.

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I really don't want to spend a lot of time

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>on this. We will in the days to come. But

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 1>the commentary on the left immediately after the shooting is

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>beyond repulsive, predictably repulsive, and I'm sure you're gonna get

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>right into the gun debate will be next. I'm sure

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>by the time we come on the air tomorrow, I'll

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>be playing things that will shock the conscience and soul

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>of anyone that has one. Apparently many people do not.

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Rod Arquette is back with us. He has been a

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>long time friend. We've been friends for decades and have

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>worked together for decades. And he hosts the afternoon show

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>on KNRS, that's our affiliate out in Salt Lake. And

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 1>we've had a lot of fun times and great memories together.

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 1>And you know, this I'm sure is shaken. You know,

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the entire state to its core.

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Rod, it has sean you know, like you said, Orum

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and Utah Valley University is the largest state run university.

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 2>It has grown, It's gross has been unbelievable. In Utah

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 2>County is a very conservative county. It is probably the

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>second most conservative county next to down in the Saint

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>George area here in Utah. And you know, there was

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 2>a huge crowd out there for Charlie today. I want

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>to go back too.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I need to correct one thing because we were wrong.

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I did see one report that said that that did

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>get the suspect. The suspect is not in custody. I

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 1>need to be very clear about that. And the person

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that was on social media in the blue shirt, who

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 1>you even yourself recognized and identified, is not the person

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that is being a suspect in the shooting.

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true, that's true, Sean. I was going to

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 2>mention that I want to go back to Sean to comment.

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 2>One of your callers and one of our listeners made

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 2>a short time ago about the media here. I remember Charlie,

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and it was probably about a week ago, maybe even

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>less than that tweeted out in some headlines in various newspapers,

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and Charlie's tweet was what's going on in Utah? Because

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 2>the headlines were calling him, you know, you know, a

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>white trams, calling them all kinds of names, controversial, and

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Charlie tweeted out that, you know, you would think I

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>could come to Utah and get a pretty warm reception,

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 2>which he got today with a crowd there, but certainly

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>not the events that happened. But even Charlie was kind

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>of baffled the same, what's going on in Utah when

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I see the media covering the story like this? So

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was interesting. Following up the call of

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>that you had just a short time ago, Sean.

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, it kind of surprised me. As I said when

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I debated Rocky Anderson back in the day, I was

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>surprised that Salt Lake had a Democratic mayor. There are

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 1>pockets of every state that have blue areas, and this

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>is one of them. I'll tell you how repulsive Rod,

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and I know this won't surprise you. Over at MSDNC,

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Katie Turr reports apparently there's this guy Matthew Dowd, a

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>political analyst. The Daily Caller is reporting that Dowd argued

0:27:55.800 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 1>that Kirk's hate speech inevitably led to him being shot.

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>This I mean, I mean, this is like within an

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<v Speaker 1>hour of the shooting. This is within an hour. He's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one years old. What has he said that's so hateful?

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>You're conservative? You like Donald Trump. He's been one of

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this It

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>was constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>or aimed at certain groups. And I always go back

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, would lead to

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>hateful actions. Everything he is saying is hateful, and I

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 1>can't believe this is where, you know, the minds of

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>some people go. I'm not going to spend a lot

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>of time on it, but it is so grossly repulsive

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that this is how some people think in this country

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of you know, a shooting like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only been not that long ago, you know, just

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>a little over a year President Trump was shot. I

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>went to breakfast the morning of the incident at Trump International,

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>which the Whitkoff was now the mid East, the envoy

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<v Speaker 1>for President Trump. We had breakfast that morning. He was

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>begging me to go play golf. An hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half later, I get a phone call. You know, I

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>think they tried to kill him again. And it turned

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>out in that particular case, he did hear rightly, he

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>did hear gunshots, but it was one sharp eyed Secret

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Service agent that took out the potential assassin in that case.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But I'm getting the feeling between the rhetoric

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<v Speaker 1>and everything in between, it's like there's no limits rotted

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what you can and cannot say about

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump or a conservative, even in the mainstream media

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<v Speaker 1>these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Sean, as you pointed out, and you mentioned this

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>a moment ago, any time you challenged the democratic or

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the socialistic narrative in this country. Just challenge it with

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 2>facts and exprain your position. All of a sudden, it's

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 2>hate speech because you're challenging, you know, the belief that

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 2>so many on the left have by raising questions and

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>simply Charlie sometimes asking questions, which he did a lot

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>on these college toward you know you're you're Immediately it's

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>labeled this hate speech. I've heard Charlie speak a couple

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>of times. Like I said, I've never met him before.

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>But Charlie isn't about hate speech. Charlie sears not at all.

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>He's He's actually a very gentle soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie shares what is in his fiber that makes Charlie

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Kirk what to who Charlie Kirk kids. That is what

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>he's doing to people and asking them to consider it

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>and to wake up and see what's going on. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not hate speech in my in my opinion, Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's definitely not hate speech. Stay right there, Rod Arquette,

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>thank you, by the way, thank you Rod for your

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>friendship and all your time today. We appreciate it. Rod Arquette,

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, host the number one afternoon show on KNRSR

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>affiliate in Salt Lake City. Alex Is in Utah was

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>at the event with his wife, Alex, What did you see?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm gonna try to keep my composure first and foremost, Sean,

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 7>I'm been a great fan. You're a hero to a

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 7>lot of us here in Salt Lake City, definitely mine,

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 7>all the way back to even the beautiful Rush Limbaugh.

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 7>But we were there, so we watched Charlie come out

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 7>and he teasingly joke started having out hats and I

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 7>made a reference to my wife who was right there.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 7>They give her a hat because she's four foot nine,

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 7>right up front, and he did so kindly, and he

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 7>is a general soul, like you say, and literally right

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 7>after the first debate, I wouldn't even consider it a

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 7>debate because it was one of his fans, that's LDS.

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 7>They had a discussion about the church, so on and

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 7>so forth, and there was a little bit of you know,

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 7>differences there, and Charlie even said flat out numerous times,

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 7>I don't hate Mormons. I love Mormons. They're great people.

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 7>There's nothing against someone. I don't want anybody to speculate

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 7>that's I'm talking any garbage about Mormons. And it was

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 7>a great opening debate, and literally as soon as the

0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 7>gentleman walked off, that's when I heard what I thought

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 7>was a firecracker. And as I look up, my wife

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 7>is trying to take a selfie of Charlie right there

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 7>next to her, and that's when I seen the blood

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 7>and hit him right in the neck and it looked

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 7>like confetti, but it was his shirt. So I tackled

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 7>my wife down and just laid on top and it did.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 7>It seriously. Took minutes to even get the ambulance's area.

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 7>It was probably five ten minutes before I heard the sirens.

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 7>But the only thing I pray, because he sees a

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 7>great father of two beautiful girls, that his security was

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 7>right behind him and was able to, from what I seen,

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 7>grab him and pull him off stage and apply some pressure.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 7>But other than that, I've getting the mixed reviews too

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 7>with him being gone, him still critical condition. So his

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 7>family's definitely in our prayers.

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you this, And I am texting with

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>John Solomon and John Solomon just Thehnews Dot. He's a

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>very reliable reporter. He's standing by his report confirming that

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Charlie has passed. I'm praying that that is not true.

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I just wrote him, I said, I pray to God

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, and I will. You know, all of us

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>now are living through really tumultuous times here. You know,

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm maybe we get used to it. Our conversation with

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Eric Trump and he's writing about everything that he and

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>his family have been through. I mean, when you have

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>one family, one man, one organization, you have das, you

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>have attorney generals run on a platform to destroy those people.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, when did we have have attorney general? Attorneys

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>general run on a platform to get one family, one man,

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>one organization. But that's what they have done, and the

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>left has accepted this. At no point would the left

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>ever even speak up and say, no, mar A Lago

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>is not worth eighteen million dollars, that's ridiculous. You know,

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>a minor for rusal of real estate and Palm Beach,

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Florida would show you that, Yeah, that's what. That's an

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>insanely undervalued property. It's worth well over a billion. But

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>they didn't care. And and that tells you a lot

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>about how crazy the left has become. This, you know,

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>for them, for people on on ms DNC is you

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>know being reported to immediately you know, start blaming the

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>victim here, you know, suggesting you know, Charlie Kirk's rhetoric

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>made him a natural target for violence, and concluding his

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>remarks is hateful thoughts lead the hateful words, which lead

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 1>to hateful actions, you know, somehow kind of justifying it.

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>And then you kind of put it all together with

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>all the conversations we've been having about law and order

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and safety and security and and why there's this callousness

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.399
<v Speaker 1>you know on the on the left, and and why

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>they cling to defund dismantled no bail laws and reimagine

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>the police. And you know, we are living through very

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>tumultuous signs. And if you know what what did Brian

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Humpty dumpty Steltz suggest. You know, we were talking about

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the case of this young woman that was killed on

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>this train in Charlotte, North Carolina. Oh, baldly racist. I'm like,

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? Ye have a young woman,

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>a Ukrainian refugee, Irena Is, you know, just gets on

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a train, sits down, looks at her phone and is

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>brutally murdered. In what We're supposed to just accept that

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and not talk about it like the rest of the

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>media they're living in very dark, dangerous times. You know,

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I've I've not spent I'm sorry. What are you saying

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>in my ear? You Trump's statement, President Trump's statement? Uh oh,

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want to read this. M

0:35:54.040 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at it. Okay, John Solomon was right from

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>President Trump, the great, even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>No one understood or had the part of the youth

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>in the US better than Charlie. He was loved and

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>admired by all, especially me, and now he's no longer

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>with us. Milania and my sympathies go out to his

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>beautiful wife, Erica and his family. Charlie, we love you.

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I never thought John Solomon was wrong. I was hoping

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>upon hope brought arquet.

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, John, I'm just seeing it as well,

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>posting up on Fox News a saban from the President.

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Saint Charlie Kirk is dead, and I think we're all

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>in a state of shock. Sean, right now, I mean

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 2>this young man, he's thirty one, married two beautiful little girls,

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>how doing what he loved to do, talking to the

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>American people, answering their questions, sharing his views on what

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 2>he believes what America is really all about and what

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>we should be striving for, put together an unbelievable organization.

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Turning point USA the conventions. My guess is, Sean, you've

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>been there. I never have been, but you've been down

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 2>to one of them, and I've spoken at them. You know,

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing a picture right now of him and his

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 2>wife and one of their girls at a baseball game,

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 2>beautiful smiles and I just saw that come across too,

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and we're all in shock. And you're right, John Solomon

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>had this right, John, he knows what he's doing. And

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 2>as he shared this information, it took us a while

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>to process and to get the word out, but the

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>word is out now that he is dead after the shooting.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Mike question thirty one years old, thirty one years old.

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, My question now, Sean, is the search for the

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 2>suspect because the university has indicated they do not have

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 2>a suspect in custody right now, So what is that process? Like,

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 2>we have a lot of connections down in Utah County

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>with a sheriff's department. We're going to try and follow

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 2>up on that, see what's going on with that. But

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 2>truly a very sad day here and your Donna. I

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>think around the country for a just a brilliant young man.

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was life all ahead of him. I mean,

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Fox is showing the most beautiful pictures of his wife

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and his children, two beautiful children that will not know this.

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 1>This young man that was full of life. I've had

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 1>some of the best conversations with him, and I don't

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>know why. I mean, but he always was so respectful

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to me. Inasmuch as you know you've been doing this

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a long time, I need to pick your brain. I

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you about this, and I'm not

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.479
<v Speaker 1>going to get too into the personal conversations we had,

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>but he he just really loved people that had been

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>in the movement a long time, cared about it, wanted

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to get everything right. That that was really the one

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 1>of the larger discussions that we had ongoing. And you know,

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.439
<v Speaker 1>and how did you how have you survived this long?

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 1>He would ask me questions like that, Rod, I didn't

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>hear what you said in my ear, Linda, you have

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to say it.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you how five. You're tenacious man. You

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 2>are a bulldog. You won't give up. You'll stay in

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>there fighting, just like Charlie Kirk was doing each and

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>every day. I mean, you have to just keep on going.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 2>You have to stand up for what you believe in.

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And times are tough. You've been through them. I've been

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 2>through them, certainly Charlie today and what has happened to him.

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 2>You just have to stand up and fight for what

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>you believe in. And I wish more people in this

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 2>country would do a Sean. I think sometimes we're a

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 2>little too easy and we need to stand up and

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>say enough is enough in this country.

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Rod Urcutt, you've been a dear friend. I know you

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>have your show and you've been so gracious with all

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 1>your time today. We really appreciate it. We are taking

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>calls for people that were at the event today. We

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>can confirm Charlie Kirk dead at the age of thirty one.

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>He has a wife and two young children that survive him.

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Our prayers are with all of them, and from just

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>putting on truth social the great, even legendary Charlie Kirk

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is dead. No one understood or had the heart of

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the youth in the US of the United States of

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.399
<v Speaker 1>America better than Charlie. He was loved admired by all,

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>especially me, and now he's no longer with us. Melania

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erica and

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:08.479
<v Speaker 1>his family. Charlie, we love you. We do not have

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a shooter a suspect if I don't even know if

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you can get it online anymore. But the initial video

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 1>that came out that was up close, it was there

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>was somebody very close to me that is involved in

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>medicine that called and said, you cannot survive that. And

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I looked at it and I just wanted I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to believe it. This was a young, thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>year old young man had his entire life ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversations we've had, he was so hard working, so smart,

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<v Speaker 1>really believed in everything that he said and fought hard

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<v Speaker 1>for his relief. You know, young family, wife, two young

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<v Speaker 1>children that will never know their hero father. Somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>was willing to put himself at risk at all times

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<v Speaker 1>and go into hostile environments for conservatives, which I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I remember one time I joke with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, why these people are crazy? He goes, That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I go. God speed, Charlie Kirk. Our prayers love

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts with him, his wife, his family will continue our

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<v Speaker 1>coverage on the other side.