Speaker 1: Alright, our two Sean Hannity Show. Here's a total free number.
Speaker 1: It's eight hundred and nine four one Sean. If you
Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program, if we
Speaker 1: don't have any updates as it relates to the news
Speaker 1: of the day, if you're just joining us. Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 1: who we all know very well in this program, Turning Point, USA,
Speaker 1: was shot during a campus event earlier today at Utah
Speaker 1: Valley University. Ap is reporting is in critical condition. A
Speaker 1: man has been taken into custody. We're updating you. We're
Speaker 1: going to update you on that in a second apparently
Speaker 1: known to my friend and hosts at KNRS are affiliate
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City. We've been friends for decades, Rod Arquette.
Speaker 1: We'll get to him in a minute. We're also following
Speaker 1: another shooting story, unfortunately, this one out of Colorado. Multiple
Speaker 1: arrests apparently have been made here at Evergreen High School
Speaker 1: in Colorado. At least two students have been injured there,
Speaker 1: other victims hospitalized, and authorities obviously investigating that we get
Speaker 1: more details on that shooting, we'll we'll bring you up
Speaker 1: to speeds as quickly as possible. Anyway we bring back
Speaker 1: rod our Quette. Rod our Quette and I go back
Speaker 1: many many years together. We he used to be my
Speaker 1: boss when I was at the ex Wife station until
Speaker 1: we made the number one station on KNRS one oh
Speaker 1: five point nine in Salt Lake. But we've had a
Speaker 1: lot of good times together, and he knows the area
Speaker 1: so well and the people are so well. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the things that always sticks out in my
Speaker 1: mind about Salt Lake City, you know, rod is I'll
Speaker 1: never forget. I felt like I was always going back
Speaker 1: in time. I felt like it was reminiscent and in
Speaker 1: a good way, in every good way. I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: being part of a parade one year with one of
Speaker 1: the Stadium of Fire events, which was, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest events ever put on anywhere in the country.
Speaker 1: And and and just walking down the street it's felt
Speaker 1: like circa nineteen fifties USA. But you know, we've also had,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys, like every other city and every
Speaker 1: other area across the country, we're dealing with this crime problem.
Speaker 1: It's in small towns in big cities. I don't understand
Speaker 1: the mindset that has led us to defund the police,
Speaker 1: dismantle the police. No bail laws. Reimagine it's not applicable
Speaker 1: to this event. But we can restore law and order.
Speaker 1: I think the President proved that with Washington d C.
Speaker 1: But then you can't stop evil. And it seems that
Speaker 1: apparently we have what appears to be the man that
Speaker 1: took this shot on Charlie is in custody. We've had
Speaker 1: multiple callers call in a guy in a blue shirt,
Speaker 1: older gentleman. You have looked at that video. This is somebody.
Speaker 1: We're not going to mention names that person that is
Speaker 1: again not confirmed, but is somebody that's familiar to you.
Speaker 2: Yes, he is. And matter of fact, since we talked
Speaker 2: originally a few minutes ago, we have noun seen video
Speaker 2: of a second person earlier being taken into custody as well.
Speaker 2: So there may be two suspects. The person you refer two,
Speaker 2: this gentleman who was who we saw initially, and we
Speaker 2: saw video of him on the ground in handcuffs, police
Speaker 2: surrounding him, something like this. Then a short time later
Speaker 2: we saw second video of police hauling a guy into
Speaker 2: the back of an suv. They've got him by his
Speaker 2: arms and legs. They're carrying him in this van. He
Speaker 2: may be the suspect. Now since then, we have learned
Speaker 2: the university has issued a statement. They're indicating the shot
Speaker 2: may have been fired from a nearby building about two
Speaker 2: hundred yards away.
Speaker 1: Knowing let me I can add some context to that
Speaker 1: because Newsweek is reporting at this hour that the university
Speaker 1: released a preliminary number details following this reported shooting of
Speaker 1: Charlie And according to a university spokesman who spoke to Newsweek,
Speaker 1: Kirk began speaking around one pm that would be local
Speaker 1: time in Utah. In Salt Lake City, at approximately one
Speaker 1: twenty pm, a single shot fired from the top of
Speaker 1: a nearby building roughly two hundred yards away from the venue,
Speaker 1: which it would not be a far shot for anybody
Speaker 1: that knows how to shoot a rifle. The university confirming
Speaker 1: that he was struck. The suspect is now in custody.
Speaker 1: One other thing we can update you on, and this
Speaker 1: is directly from the Associated Press, that Charlie Kirk CEO,
Speaker 1: co founder of Turning Point USA, is in critical condition
Speaker 1: at a Utah hospital as of now. While going back
Speaker 1: maybe ten minutes ago, after being shot at a college event,
Speaker 1: videos posted on social media from Utah Valley Universe the show,
Speaker 1: Kirk speaking into a handheld microphone while sitting under a
Speaker 1: white tent and blazon with slogans the American comeback, proved
Speaker 1: me wrong, and a single shot that seems to be
Speaker 1: a consistent yes, refrain and report rang out, and Kirk
Speaker 1: can be seen reaching up with his right hand as
Speaker 1: a I mean the blood. You can see the video.
Speaker 1: There was a close There was a video of close
Speaker 1: up taken and blood gushing from the the side of
Speaker 1: his neck, stunning spectators. But anyway, continue what you were saying.
Speaker 2: Well and seohn. If if that is the case, and
Speaker 2: the university obviously has now confirmed it, it would be
Speaker 2: unlikely that the individual we know would have been on
Speaker 2: that building. My guess is he's one of these guys
Speaker 2: who's always in the crowd. You see me, He usually
Speaker 2: is right up front. So that would lead us to
Speaker 2: lead the other suspect, who we do not know, and
Speaker 2: it was to get in custody. That could be the
Speaker 2: individual who may have fired that shot from the college building.
Speaker 2: So you know, you've got two people who are taken
Speaker 2: into custody. One we know, we think we know, the
Speaker 2: other we don't know. And that's where we stand today.
Speaker 2: And we're hearing the same thing about Charlie Kirk. He's stabilized,
Speaker 2: but he's still listed of course in critical condition. And
Speaker 2: we can all just open pray that Charlie Kirk will
Speaker 2: be okay because he has done so much for this
Speaker 2: country and engaging especially young people in politics and talking
Speaker 2: about the issues. We need voices like him, and only
Speaker 2: hopefully he'll still be there.
Speaker 1: By the way, this just breaking. And again this is
Speaker 1: this is not a rush to be first. We're just
Speaker 1: trying to pass on information as it becomes available. Obviously
Speaker 1: we can't confirm, but we are using legitimate sources. Now
Speaker 1: The New York Times, just to be very clear reporting
Speaker 1: the police have determined the man taken into custody was
Speaker 1: not the shooter. I'm assuming they're talking about the guy
Speaker 1: in the blue shirt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy we know is in the blue shirt. Now, Sean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen this, but John Solomon
Speaker 2: and Just the News is reporting that Charlie Kirk is dead.
Speaker 2: That's coming from John Solomon with Just the News.
Speaker 1: Pretty god, I've never wanted my friend John Solomon be
Speaker 1: to be more wrong than now. Yeah, pretty god, that's
Speaker 1: not true. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: The headline read, Charlie kirk get at thirty one after
Speaker 2: shooting at Utah event. Three officials confirmed that's what we're
Speaker 2: just seeing coming across right now.
Speaker 3: Sean.
Speaker 1: I've been getting texts from sources that have been saying
Speaker 1: this that are credible. John says it's true. When they
Speaker 1: just talked to him. Yeah, Rod, stay right there, doctor
Speaker 1: Brian Tyson. Our friend is with us. Doctor Tyson. You
Speaker 1: saw the video. And then we did have a young
Speaker 1: girl that was an eyewitness in front of that stage.
Speaker 1: It's very hard to talk about, and she said that,
Speaker 1: you know, well, people they started carrying him out, but
Speaker 1: if you look at that close up video, If you
Speaker 1: look at the video, you can see that the blood
Speaker 1: was gushing out of his neck. If you don't immediately
Speaker 1: stop that bleeding, I don't know how you don't bleed out.
Speaker 1: And that was my fear from the second I saw
Speaker 1: that video. My hope was that there might be paramedics there,
Speaker 1: skilled professionals that would be able to, you know, have
Speaker 1: triage and stop that bleeding immediately, because that's what it
Speaker 1: would need, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I look at the video. I've done
Speaker 3: her medicine for quite some time, thirteen years of it,
Speaker 3: and it does look like a severe traumatic wound to
Speaker 3: the left side of the neck, likely involving the common
Speaker 3: carotid artery and probably even the internal external jugular veins.
Speaker 3: There was a tremendous amount of blood coming out which
Speaker 3: would have needed to be compressed immediately in hopes that
Speaker 3: you know, you can at least tamping on off the
Speaker 3: continued flow of blood. Unfortunately, the curated artery comes right
Speaker 3: off the orda and so it's a it's an extremely
Speaker 3: high pressure vessel, and if it did hit the crodit artery,
Speaker 3: I'm afraid what you're saying is probably most likely true.
Speaker 1: Did you see the video that I have seen? Have
Speaker 1: you had an opportunity to see it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen it, and I've seen a couple of
Speaker 3: different angles as well.
Speaker 1: How much time would you have if you were if
Speaker 1: you were on the scene, and we've been friends a
Speaker 1: long time, doctor Tyson, if you were on the scene
Speaker 1: and you were there and you could get right in there,
Speaker 1: what would you do and would you be able to
Speaker 1: save him?
Speaker 3: It would be so you you have to put immediate pressure.
Speaker 3: You've got minutes if if if that with with a
Speaker 3: wound that size, would I have been able to save him? Not?
Speaker 3: Not likely. If it hit the card common cordit artery,
Speaker 3: you have to put a lot of pressure, which would
Speaker 3: then compromise his airway. You would need to have an intivation. Kid,
Speaker 3: you'd have to have basically surgeons on site. That's that's
Speaker 3: a that's a very very traumatic gunshot wound.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When you said, when I saw it, I just couldn't,
Speaker 1: you know, just common sense takes over and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you can't do this, you know, you you really can't.
Speaker 4: We are.
Speaker 3: He's you know, we've we've spent time with Charlie on
Speaker 3: multiple occasions, and I'm I'm heartbroke.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm heart broke to doctor Tyson. I wish somebody
Speaker 1: like you was there that would have given him, that
Speaker 1: would give him the best shot. Maybe there was. I'm
Speaker 1: still hoping upon hope that it might be a chance
Speaker 1: that he's surviving. Rod. What are people telling you there?
Speaker 5: Rod?
Speaker 1: Arquette will go back to Rod.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we're getting Yeah, I'm here, I'm here. Can
Speaker 2: you hear me, Sean, I can hear you?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we're getting the same information you had we
Speaker 2: had earlier reports that he was in critical condition and stabilized.
Speaker 2: But as we just mentioned, John Solomon reporting that Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk has died at the age of thirty one. Don't
Speaker 2: see no other reports come in as of yet. But
Speaker 2: you know John very well, John's a reliable source, and
Speaker 2: if he's getting that information, I think we can we
Speaker 2: can understand that what he's saying is in fact fact.
Speaker 2: And what a sad, sad day.
Speaker 4: Sean.
Speaker 2: I've never had a chance to meet Charlie, but I
Speaker 2: know you've been very close to him and have worked
Speaker 2: with him over the years. And just a very very
Speaker 2: sad story, tragic day.
Speaker 1: When you hear, you know, from doctor Tyson, and then
Speaker 1: you look at the video and then he describes how
Speaker 1: quickly and what you would need to do to survive
Speaker 1: a shot like that. It is a very sad, tragic day.
Speaker 1: And this man has done this young man has done
Speaker 1: so much good in his life. And we're praying upon
Speaker 1: all hope that maybe this report is not accurate. But
Speaker 1: it's not looking good. That video did not look good.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a break. We'll come back well more.
Speaker 1: Rod will be back with us. We do have people
Speaker 1: that were at the event. They will share what they saw.
Speaker 1: We'll have more medical updates, and we're following the news.
Speaker 1: Charlie kirk shot at Utah Valley University earlier today. Our
Speaker 1: prayers are with him and his family.
Speaker 6: John Hannity.
Speaker 4: Little friends with Charlie.
Speaker 6: Let's talk about Charlie the man for a moment. You
Speaker 6: might have heard me talking a little bit earlier about
Speaker 6: how supportive he is of everyone. I'm sure of you,
Speaker 6: I'm sure of me. He is a family man, he
Speaker 6: is a father, he is a Christian, a true believer
Speaker 6: in Jesus Christ. Tell us about the man, you know,
Speaker 6: Charlie kirk.
Speaker 1: Charlie is a force of nature that some of Fox's coverage.
Speaker 1: We do have a lot of people calling in and
Speaker 1: Rod Arquette, who's been very gracious. We've been friends a
Speaker 1: long time, Rod, and you know, normally we would be
Speaker 1: joking about, you know, Crown Burger and our fun times together,
Speaker 1: or the time somebody threw a book at me. It seems,
Speaker 1: you know, it seems rather small in light of the
Speaker 1: events of today. If you're just joining us, Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: is has been shot during an event at Utah Valley
Speaker 1: University is a very bad shot. There are reports that
Speaker 1: he's in critical condition. Just thenews dot Com is reporting
Speaker 1: that he has passed. We have not been able to
Speaker 1: independently corroborate it, so I want to be very careful.
Speaker 1: Newsweek is reporting that the alleged shooter fired from the
Speaker 1: top of a building two hundred yards away. There is
Speaker 1: very very graphic video online of the shooting and what
Speaker 1: is basically blood gushing out of what looks like Charlie's neck.
Speaker 1: It looks like it hit the carotid artery, which is
Speaker 1: you know in my martial arts training. It is a
Speaker 1: targeted strike because of the heavy blood flow in the area.
Speaker 1: You just had doctor Tyson, Brian Tyson on the program
Speaker 1: what it would take to save somebody's life if in
Speaker 1: fact it was the carotid. We got into that, Rod,
Speaker 1: if you can stay with us. We have Brian in
Speaker 1: Utah apparently was at the event. Brian, what did you see?
Speaker 1: Where were you? Brian? Are you there? I guess Brian
Speaker 1: will put Brian on hold. It looks like he's no,
Speaker 1: not Rod, I'm looking for I've went to Brian in Utah. Brian,
Speaker 1: are you there? Brian's not there? Taylor in Utah. Are
Speaker 1: you there, Yeah, I'm here, Sean. So tell me what
Speaker 1: you've been hearing and what you saw. And I know
Speaker 1: this is your alma mater.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I graduated from UVU in twenty eighteen. I
Speaker 5: was vice president of College Republicans at UVU and I'm
Speaker 5: disgusted and part of my outrage obviously Rod isn't associated
Speaker 5: with this, because k and RS is fantastic, But I'm
Speaker 5: really disgusted with the local media here. They have painted
Speaker 5: Charlie as white supremacist, this evil person. And I put
Speaker 5: some of the blame on the local media because they
Speaker 5: painted well.
Speaker 1: They've been they were saying that in the lead up
Speaker 1: to this event, or saying it since he got shot.
Speaker 5: No, there were some articles from some of the local
Speaker 5: media here saying how bad he was, and I put
Speaker 5: some of the blame on them because that riles some
Speaker 5: of the very small minority here in Utah.
Speaker 1: You know, you hear this all the time. I mean
Speaker 1: there's this false narrative, false characterization. I mean the rhetoric
Speaker 1: on the left about Donald Trump and his family and conservatives.
Speaker 1: We had, we had Eric Trump on for an extended
Speaker 1: period today and all that he has been through and
Speaker 1: his family has been through, and I'm talking about his brothers,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about his sister, I'm talking about Millennia. By
Speaker 1: the way, stations along the Sean Hannity Show radio network,
Speaker 1: We're going to continue our live coverage Charlie Kirk, according
Speaker 1: to one report, in critical condition. That is our hope
Speaker 1: at this time. Other news organizations have not followed through
Speaker 1: on just thenews dot COM's early reporting, and we're just
Speaker 1: we're just going to hope upon hope that that's not
Speaker 1: the case. Brian in Utah, I guess was at the
Speaker 1: university event. Brian, you were there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am here, Sean. Thank you so much for
Speaker 4: taking my call. It was so just to go back
Speaker 4: for your asking a moment ago. I was actually worth
Speaker 4: on the north side of the event, up on the terrace,
Speaker 4: the second floor terrace. The crowd was so crowded by
Speaker 4: the time I got there, I couldn't get any closer
Speaker 4: to the crowd, and so as I was there, I
Speaker 4: couldn't really hear the proceedings from that far back, and
Speaker 4: so I decided to go down the first floor and
Speaker 4: there's a tent that was actually in the videos that
Speaker 4: were shown on Fox News. As people were starting to scatter,
Speaker 4: and I was right behind that tent there as a
Speaker 4: shot rang. So there was a single shot, and there
Speaker 4: was definitely not a security presence there, hardly except for
Speaker 4: a couple officers that I saw directly behind and above
Speaker 4: where Charlie Kirk was standing. I didn't see the impact
Speaker 4: of the bullets, but it was just chaos and there
Speaker 4: were people saying I saw him a shot in the neck,
Speaker 4: and then everyone just started fleeing in into the buildings
Speaker 4: and then out, and it literally took over ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Did you stay long enough to see, because, I mean
Speaker 1: it is very graphic the video online of the moment
Speaker 1: he got shot, and it looked like he got hit
Speaker 1: in the carott at artery and it was like a gusher,
Speaker 1: I mean it was I mean, blood was shooting out
Speaker 1: of his neck, which indicates that he was bleeding out
Speaker 1: very fast. Did you see anybody attend to him and
Speaker 1: put pressure on that neck? Did you see any medical
Speaker 1: attention at all going on? What did they do?
Speaker 4: I didn't see anything, But by the time I heard
Speaker 4: the gunshot and I was behind that tent area, we
Speaker 4: were just scrambling. But literally there was not the medical personnel.
Speaker 4: There was no one there. It took at least ten
Speaker 4: minutes for personnel where could start where I was leaving
Speaker 4: and evacuuting from the campus because they were getting everyone out,
Speaker 4: and I was going across the freeway there on the
Speaker 4: little pedestrian walkway with hundreds of hundreds of students, and
Speaker 4: you finally started hearing science coming towards the campus and
Speaker 4: I saw fire truck and stuff. So it was it
Speaker 4: was not an instant response either. It took time for
Speaker 4: emergency personnel to respond and get there. So I and
Speaker 4: I'm just hoping it's just as much as everyone else
Speaker 4: out there that hopefully he's okay, but it sounds like
Speaker 4: you may not be able to just contain to pray
Speaker 4: for him and his family. And thank you so much
Speaker 4: for your time, Sean.
Speaker 1: No, thank you for calling, and we really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody in Utah that has called in,
Speaker 1: all the people that have been at the event. You
Speaker 1: know badly in moments like this, there are people that
Speaker 1: like to call in and spoof radio shows as if
Speaker 1: that's a funny moment to do it. A man, a father,
Speaker 1: a husband who's only thirty one years old, was shot
Speaker 1: severely in his corotide artery and we've got to get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this. Let me go back again
Speaker 1: to Brian Tyson. Then we'll check in with my friend
Speaker 1: Rod Arquette with our affiliate kN RS out in Utah
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake. Brian, let me go back again, and
Speaker 1: that's now the second call that we've had of an
Speaker 1: eyewitness that says there was not immediate medical attention. And
Speaker 1: based on the video that we have, let's go through
Speaker 1: this again in detail, what would need to happen and
Speaker 1: how quickly based on the video that you saw.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, based on a video that we saw,
Speaker 3: definitely pressure needed to be applied to the open wound immediately.
Speaker 3: There's three main vessels in the part of the nuts.
Speaker 3: You have the common carotid artery that runs up to
Speaker 3: the brain. Then you have the two main internal and
Speaker 3: external jugular vessels that come down from the brain. You know,
Speaker 3: in a hopeful world, the we would hope that the
Speaker 3: bullet missed the carotid artery, and actually what we saw
Speaker 3: was venus bleeding from a main vessel from probably the
Speaker 3: external caroate or from the external jugular vein. If that
Speaker 3: were the case, putting pressure on that area, even even
Speaker 3: just handheld pressure could be enough to save off any
Speaker 3: further bleeding at that point in time. That would be
Speaker 3: the ideal scenario in in a in a instance like this,
Speaker 3: if it did hit in fact hit the carotid artery,
Speaker 3: I don't feel like there would be any chance of
Speaker 3: survival at that point with no medical attention on scene
Speaker 3: for ten minutes.
Speaker 1: And Brian again walk us through. If you were there
Speaker 1: behind the tent, you saw what happened, you saw the
Speaker 1: blood gushing out the way it was, what would be
Speaker 1: the treatment that you would you would undertake in that moment.
Speaker 3: I mean the biggest treatment is you have to you
Speaker 3: have to apply pressure, so you wouldn't need to put pressure,
Speaker 3: stabilize the neck, get in with a get an airway
Speaker 3: in him as soon as possible, in tobate, make sure
Speaker 3: that there was no damage structurally to the trachea or
Speaker 3: anything else with a gunshot room of that nature. Also
Speaker 3: worrying about maybe you know, data hit the cervical spine
Speaker 3: or there any spinal core damage, So you have to
Speaker 3: stabilize the sea spines as well. But you the pressure
Speaker 3: is the main thing get the vessels, uh to to
Speaker 3: close tampan on those off if you could, you know,
Speaker 3: but I mean, you know, medical in the field, it's
Speaker 3: not like you can, you know, take a needle and
Speaker 3: tie off an artery. So it's just compression, airway protection ceasepying,
Speaker 3: stabilization and then getting into a trauma center where the
Speaker 3: trauma surgeons can then take them to the e R
Speaker 3: and tie off those vessels and then hopefully the collateral
Speaker 3: circulation from the other side will take care of the
Speaker 3: brain and any any of the vital structures in the
Speaker 3: in the head at that point.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate your expertise, Doctor Brian Tyson. Thank you
Speaker 1: if you're just joining us. Charley Kirk was shot during
Speaker 1: a Turning Point USA event. This was an arm Utah.
Speaker 1: I've been there by the way, It's a beautiful part
Speaker 1: of the country. The suspect is in facting in custody.
Speaker 1: I really don't want to spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: on this. We will in the days to come. But
Speaker 1: the commentary on the left immediately after the shooting is
Speaker 1: beyond repulsive, predictably repulsive, and I'm sure you're gonna get
Speaker 1: right into the gun debate will be next. I'm sure
Speaker 1: by the time we come on the air tomorrow, I'll
Speaker 1: be playing things that will shock the conscience and soul
Speaker 1: of anyone that has one. Apparently many people do not.
Speaker 1: Rod Arquette is back with us. He has been a
Speaker 1: long time friend. We've been friends for decades and have
Speaker 1: worked together for decades. And he hosts the afternoon show
Speaker 1: on KNRS, that's our affiliate out in Salt Lake. And
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of fun times and great memories together.
Speaker 1: And you know, this I'm sure is shaken. You know,
Speaker 1: the entire state to its core.
Speaker 2: Rod, it has sean you know, like you said, Orum
Speaker 2: and Utah Valley University is the largest state run university.
Speaker 2: It has grown, It's gross has been unbelievable. In Utah
Speaker 2: County is a very conservative county. It is probably the
Speaker 2: second most conservative county next to down in the Saint
Speaker 2: George area here in Utah. And you know, there was
Speaker 2: a huge crowd out there for Charlie today. I want
Speaker 2: to go back too.
Speaker 1: I need to correct one thing because we were wrong.
Speaker 1: I did see one report that said that that did
Speaker 1: get the suspect. The suspect is not in custody. I
Speaker 1: need to be very clear about that. And the person
Speaker 1: that was on social media in the blue shirt, who
Speaker 1: you even yourself recognized and identified, is not the person
Speaker 1: that is being a suspect in the shooting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true, Sean. I was going to
Speaker 2: mention that I want to go back to Sean to comment.
Speaker 2: One of your callers and one of our listeners made
Speaker 2: a short time ago about the media here. I remember Charlie,
Speaker 2: and it was probably about a week ago, maybe even
Speaker 2: less than that tweeted out in some headlines in various newspapers,
Speaker 2: and Charlie's tweet was what's going on in Utah? Because
Speaker 2: the headlines were calling him, you know, you know, a
Speaker 2: white trams, calling them all kinds of names, controversial, and
Speaker 2: Charlie tweeted out that, you know, you would think I
Speaker 2: could come to Utah and get a pretty warm reception,
Speaker 2: which he got today with a crowd there, but certainly
Speaker 2: not the events that happened. But even Charlie was kind
Speaker 2: of baffled the same, what's going on in Utah when
Speaker 2: I see the media covering the story like this? So
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. Following up the call of
Speaker 2: that you had just a short time ago, Sean.
Speaker 1: Well, it kind of surprised me. As I said when
Speaker 1: I debated Rocky Anderson back in the day, I was
Speaker 1: surprised that Salt Lake had a Democratic mayor. There are
Speaker 1: pockets of every state that have blue areas, and this
Speaker 1: is one of them. I'll tell you how repulsive Rod,
Speaker 1: and I know this won't surprise you. Over at MSDNC,
Speaker 1: Katie Turr reports apparently there's this guy Matthew Dowd, a
Speaker 1: political analyst. The Daily Caller is reporting that Dowd argued
Speaker 1: that Kirk's hate speech inevitably led to him being shot.
Speaker 1: This I mean, I mean, this is like within an
Speaker 1: hour of the shooting. This is within an hour. He's
Speaker 1: thirty one years old. What has he said that's so hateful?
Speaker 1: You're conservative? You like Donald Trump. He's been one of
Speaker 1: the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this It
Speaker 1: was constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech
Speaker 1: or aimed at certain groups. And I always go back
Speaker 1: to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, would lead to
Speaker 1: hateful actions. Everything he is saying is hateful, and I
Speaker 1: can't believe this is where, you know, the minds of
Speaker 1: some people go. I'm not going to spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time on it, but it is so grossly repulsive
Speaker 1: that this is how some people think in this country
Speaker 1: in the middle of you know, a shooting like this.
Speaker 1: It's only been not that long ago, you know, just
Speaker 1: a little over a year President Trump was shot. I
Speaker 1: went to breakfast the morning of the incident at Trump International,
Speaker 1: which the Whitkoff was now the mid East, the envoy
Speaker 1: for President Trump. We had breakfast that morning. He was
Speaker 1: begging me to go play golf. An hour and a
Speaker 1: half later, I get a phone call. You know, I
Speaker 1: think they tried to kill him again. And it turned
Speaker 1: out in that particular case, he did hear rightly, he
Speaker 1: did hear gunshots, but it was one sharp eyed Secret
Speaker 1: Service agent that took out the potential assassin in that case.
Speaker 1: You know. But I'm getting the feeling between the rhetoric
Speaker 1: and everything in between, it's like there's no limits rotted
Speaker 1: in terms of what you can and cannot say about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump or a conservative, even in the mainstream media
Speaker 1: these days.
Speaker 2: Well, Sean, as you pointed out, and you mentioned this
Speaker 2: a moment ago, any time you challenged the democratic or
Speaker 2: the socialistic narrative in this country. Just challenge it with
Speaker 2: facts and exprain your position. All of a sudden, it's
Speaker 2: hate speech because you're challenging, you know, the belief that
Speaker 2: so many on the left have by raising questions and
Speaker 2: simply Charlie sometimes asking questions, which he did a lot
Speaker 2: on these college toward you know you're you're Immediately it's
Speaker 2: labeled this hate speech. I've heard Charlie speak a couple
Speaker 2: of times. Like I said, I've never met him before.
Speaker 2: But Charlie isn't about hate speech. Charlie sears not at all.
Speaker 1: He's He's actually a very gentle soul.
Speaker 2: Charlie shares what is in his fiber that makes Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk what to who Charlie Kirk kids. That is what
Speaker 2: he's doing to people and asking them to consider it
Speaker 2: and to wake up and see what's going on. That's
Speaker 2: not hate speech in my in my opinion, Sean.
Speaker 1: No, it's definitely not hate speech. Stay right there, Rod Arquette,
Speaker 1: thank you, by the way, thank you Rod for your
Speaker 1: friendship and all your time today. We appreciate it. Rod Arquette,
Speaker 1: you know, host the number one afternoon show on KNRSR
Speaker 1: affiliate in Salt Lake City. Alex Is in Utah was
Speaker 1: at the event with his wife, Alex, What did you see?
Speaker 7: Well, I'm gonna try to keep my composure first and foremost, Sean,
Speaker 7: I'm been a great fan. You're a hero to a
Speaker 7: lot of us here in Salt Lake City, definitely mine,
Speaker 7: all the way back to even the beautiful Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 7: But we were there, so we watched Charlie come out
Speaker 7: and he teasingly joke started having out hats and I
Speaker 7: made a reference to my wife who was right there.
Speaker 7: They give her a hat because she's four foot nine,
Speaker 7: right up front, and he did so kindly, and he
Speaker 7: is a general soul, like you say, and literally right
Speaker 7: after the first debate, I wouldn't even consider it a
Speaker 7: debate because it was one of his fans, that's LDS.
Speaker 7: They had a discussion about the church, so on and
Speaker 7: so forth, and there was a little bit of you know,
Speaker 7: differences there, and Charlie even said flat out numerous times,
Speaker 7: I don't hate Mormons. I love Mormons. They're great people.
Speaker 7: There's nothing against someone. I don't want anybody to speculate
Speaker 7: that's I'm talking any garbage about Mormons. And it was
Speaker 7: a great opening debate, and literally as soon as the
Speaker 7: gentleman walked off, that's when I heard what I thought
Speaker 7: was a firecracker. And as I look up, my wife
Speaker 7: is trying to take a selfie of Charlie right there
Speaker 7: next to her, and that's when I seen the blood
Speaker 7: and hit him right in the neck and it looked
Speaker 7: like confetti, but it was his shirt. So I tackled
Speaker 7: my wife down and just laid on top and it did.
Speaker 7: It seriously. Took minutes to even get the ambulance's area.
Speaker 7: It was probably five ten minutes before I heard the sirens.
Speaker 7: But the only thing I pray, because he sees a
Speaker 7: great father of two beautiful girls, that his security was
Speaker 7: right behind him and was able to, from what I seen,
Speaker 7: grab him and pull him off stage and apply some pressure.
Speaker 7: But other than that, I've getting the mixed reviews too
Speaker 7: with him being gone, him still critical condition. So his
Speaker 7: family's definitely in our prayers.
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, And I am texting with
Speaker 1: John Solomon and John Solomon just Thehnews Dot. He's a
Speaker 1: very reliable reporter. He's standing by his report confirming that
Speaker 1: Charlie has passed. I'm praying that that is not true.
Speaker 1: I just wrote him, I said, I pray to God
Speaker 1: you're wrong, and I will. You know, all of us
Speaker 1: now are living through really tumultuous times here. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm maybe we get used to it. Our conversation with
Speaker 1: Eric Trump and he's writing about everything that he and
Speaker 1: his family have been through. I mean, when you have
Speaker 1: one family, one man, one organization, you have das, you
Speaker 1: have attorney generals run on a platform to destroy those people.
Speaker 1: You know, when did we have have attorney general? Attorneys
Speaker 1: general run on a platform to get one family, one man,
Speaker 1: one organization. But that's what they have done, and the
Speaker 1: left has accepted this. At no point would the left
Speaker 1: ever even speak up and say, no, mar A Lago
Speaker 1: is not worth eighteen million dollars, that's ridiculous. You know,
Speaker 1: a minor for rusal of real estate and Palm Beach,
Speaker 1: Florida would show you that, Yeah, that's what. That's an
Speaker 1: insanely undervalued property. It's worth well over a billion. But
Speaker 1: they didn't care. And and that tells you a lot
Speaker 1: about how crazy the left has become. This, you know,
Speaker 1: for them, for people on on ms DNC is you
Speaker 1: know being reported to immediately you know, start blaming the
Speaker 1: victim here, you know, suggesting you know, Charlie Kirk's rhetoric
Speaker 1: made him a natural target for violence, and concluding his
Speaker 1: remarks is hateful thoughts lead the hateful words, which lead
Speaker 1: to hateful actions, you know, somehow kind of justifying it.
Speaker 1: And then you kind of put it all together with
Speaker 1: all the conversations we've been having about law and order
Speaker 1: and safety and security and and why there's this callousness
Speaker 1: you know on the on the left, and and why
Speaker 1: they cling to defund dismantled no bail laws and reimagine
Speaker 1: the police. And you know, we are living through very
Speaker 1: tumultuous signs. And if you know what what did Brian
Speaker 1: Humpty dumpty Steltz suggest. You know, we were talking about
Speaker 1: the case of this young woman that was killed on
Speaker 1: this train in Charlotte, North Carolina. Oh, baldly racist. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Ye have a young woman,
Speaker 1: a Ukrainian refugee, Irena Is, you know, just gets on
Speaker 1: a train, sits down, looks at her phone and is
Speaker 1: brutally murdered. In what We're supposed to just accept that
Speaker 1: and not talk about it like the rest of the
Speaker 1: media they're living in very dark, dangerous times. You know,
Speaker 1: I've I've not spent I'm sorry. What are you saying
Speaker 1: in my ear? You Trump's statement, President Trump's statement? Uh oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to read this. M
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. Okay, John Solomon was right from
Speaker 1: President Trump, the great, even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.
Speaker 1: No one understood or had the part of the youth
Speaker 1: in the US better than Charlie. He was loved and
Speaker 1: admired by all, especially me, and now he's no longer
Speaker 1: with us. Milania and my sympathies go out to his
Speaker 1: beautiful wife, Erica and his family. Charlie, we love you.
Speaker 1: I never thought John Solomon was wrong. I was hoping
Speaker 1: upon hope brought arquet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, John, I'm just seeing it as well,
Speaker 2: posting up on Fox News a saban from the President.
Speaker 2: Saint Charlie Kirk is dead, and I think we're all
Speaker 2: in a state of shock. Sean, right now, I mean
Speaker 2: this young man, he's thirty one, married two beautiful little girls,
Speaker 2: how doing what he loved to do, talking to the
Speaker 2: American people, answering their questions, sharing his views on what
Speaker 2: he believes what America is really all about and what
Speaker 2: we should be striving for, put together an unbelievable organization.
Speaker 2: Turning point USA the conventions. My guess is, Sean, you've
Speaker 2: been there. I never have been, but you've been down
Speaker 2: to one of them, and I've spoken at them. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a picture right now of him and his
Speaker 2: wife and one of their girls at a baseball game,
Speaker 2: beautiful smiles and I just saw that come across too,
Speaker 2: and we're all in shock. And you're right, John Solomon
Speaker 2: had this right, John, he knows what he's doing. And
Speaker 2: as he shared this information, it took us a while
Speaker 2: to process and to get the word out, but the
Speaker 2: word is out now that he is dead after the shooting.
Speaker 1: Mike question thirty one years old, thirty one years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, My question now, Sean, is the search for the
Speaker 2: suspect because the university has indicated they do not have
Speaker 2: a suspect in custody right now, So what is that process? Like,
Speaker 2: we have a lot of connections down in Utah County
Speaker 2: with a sheriff's department. We're going to try and follow
Speaker 2: up on that, see what's going on with that. But
Speaker 2: truly a very sad day here and your Donna. I
Speaker 2: think around the country for a just a brilliant young man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was life all ahead of him. I mean,
Speaker 1: Fox is showing the most beautiful pictures of his wife
Speaker 1: and his children, two beautiful children that will not know this.
Speaker 1: This young man that was full of life. I've had
Speaker 1: some of the best conversations with him, and I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I mean, but he always was so respectful
Speaker 1: to me. Inasmuch as you know you've been doing this
Speaker 1: a long time, I need to pick your brain. I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about this, and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to get too into the personal conversations we had,
Speaker 1: but he he just really loved people that had been
Speaker 1: in the movement a long time, cared about it, wanted
Speaker 1: to get everything right. That that was really the one
Speaker 1: of the larger discussions that we had ongoing. And you know,
Speaker 1: and how did you how have you survived this long?
Speaker 1: He would ask me questions like that, Rod, I didn't
Speaker 1: hear what you said in my ear, Linda, you have
Speaker 1: to say it.
Speaker 2: I can tell you how five. You're tenacious man. You
Speaker 2: are a bulldog. You won't give up. You'll stay in
Speaker 2: there fighting, just like Charlie Kirk was doing each and
Speaker 2: every day. I mean, you have to just keep on going.
Speaker 2: You have to stand up for what you believe in.
Speaker 2: And times are tough. You've been through them. I've been
Speaker 2: through them, certainly Charlie today and what has happened to him.
Speaker 2: You just have to stand up and fight for what
Speaker 2: you believe in. And I wish more people in this
Speaker 2: country would do a Sean. I think sometimes we're a
Speaker 2: little too easy and we need to stand up and
Speaker 2: say enough is enough in this country.
Speaker 1: Rod Urcutt, you've been a dear friend. I know you
Speaker 1: have your show and you've been so gracious with all
Speaker 1: your time today. We really appreciate it. We are taking
Speaker 1: calls for people that were at the event today. We
Speaker 1: can confirm Charlie Kirk dead at the age of thirty one.
Speaker 1: He has a wife and two young children that survive him.
Speaker 1: Our prayers are with all of them, and from just
Speaker 1: putting on truth social the great, even legendary Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: is dead. No one understood or had the heart of
Speaker 1: the youth in the US of the United States of
Speaker 1: America better than Charlie. He was loved admired by all,
Speaker 1: especially me, and now he's no longer with us. Melania
Speaker 1: and sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erica and
Speaker 1: his family. Charlie, we love you. We do not have
Speaker 1: a shooter a suspect if I don't even know if
Speaker 1: you can get it online anymore. But the initial video
Speaker 1: that came out that was up close, it was there
Speaker 1: was somebody very close to me that is involved in
Speaker 1: medicine that called and said, you cannot survive that. And
Speaker 1: I looked at it and I just wanted I didn't
Speaker 1: want to believe it. This was a young, thirty one
Speaker 1: year old young man had his entire life ahead of him.
Speaker 1: The conversations we've had, he was so hard working, so smart,
Speaker 1: really believed in everything that he said and fought hard
Speaker 1: for his relief. You know, young family, wife, two young
Speaker 1: children that will never know their hero father. Somebody that
Speaker 1: was willing to put himself at risk at all times
Speaker 1: and go into hostile environments for conservatives, which I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember one time I joke with him,
Speaker 1: I said, why these people are crazy? He goes, That's
Speaker 1: why I go. God speed, Charlie Kirk. Our prayers love
Speaker 1: thoughts with him, his wife, his family will continue our
Speaker 1: coverage on the other side.