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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to Carol Markowood Show on iHeart Review.

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Speaker 1: My guest today is Brent Sure. Brent is editor in

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Speaker 1: chief at The Daily Wire. Hi, Brent, so nice to

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Speaker 1: have you on.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Carol, great to be on. I've always wanted to

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Speaker 2: be on your show.

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Speaker 1: This is I was so excited to have you. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know you always wanted to be on. It would

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Speaker 1: have had you on earlier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think I tried though, actually, and you might have

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Speaker 1: not responded. So yeah, my daughter likes to say the

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Speaker 1: bush is mistakes were made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Might have been my fault. Might

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Speaker 2: have been my fault.

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Speaker 1: So we were joking before we started rolling that. In

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Speaker 1: your profile, you have that you're a New Yorker, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's something I used to have.

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Speaker 3: In my profile, but I don't anymore. Still feel a

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Speaker 3: lot of pride in that.

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Speaker 2: I think I do.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I always take a lot of pride in being

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Speaker 4: in New York or now I'm down in Nashville, Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: or dayli Ware's based. But you know, being a New

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Speaker 4: Yorker is about more than what the current state of

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Speaker 4: New York is. I feel like me and you get

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Speaker 4: along actually because we're both New Yorkers and like the

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Speaker 4: good way of being a New Yorker, like the attitude

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Speaker 4: of New Yorker. It's like I get along with every

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Speaker 4: New Yorker I almost ever meet.

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Speaker 3: Right, how about the recent arrivals.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that New York that exists now is

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Speaker 1: the New York of our youth, which I don't think

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Speaker 1: people talk.

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Speaker 3: Like us, or or act like us or anything anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's actually such a good point.

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Speaker 4: Like when I first when I first graduated from college

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Speaker 4: New York less because I was hanging out with you know,

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Speaker 4: I was hanging out with other twenty somethings, and there

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Speaker 4: were twenty somethings that had moved to New York after college.

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Speaker 2: Right, they're not New Yorkers. We liked the people that

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Speaker 4: Were born there and maybe not born there, but lived there,

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Speaker 4: grew up there, yea, were formed by New York and

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Speaker 4: the New York experiences, and like you can tell when

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Speaker 4: somebody else is like it's a real yeah. They have

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Speaker 4: a different vibe and approach to everything. And we tend

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like when those kids from Westchester would be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm from New York and we'd have to be like, no,

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Speaker 4: I even asked like, are you really from New York

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Speaker 4: and they all say, no, I mean just outside of

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm outside in New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: I was telling somebody this story before. I'm just such

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Speaker 2: We didn't have a car like that.

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Speaker 4: Fairly, I barely left the island of Manhattan. I don't

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Speaker 4: think I've ever been into the state of Connecticut, not

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Speaker 4: only the like you know, I've never been there, and

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Speaker 2: There and in New York. Right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like every time somebody asked me whether I

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Speaker 4: think I can move back to New York, they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean you move to like Connecticut.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, that's not part of the city.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not what moving back to New York means.

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Speaker 4: There is, and it's just not gonna it's not the

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Speaker 2: That's not well.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it sounds like you think Brooklyn is part

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Speaker 1: of New York, which is a big plus for me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely part of New York.

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Speaker 4: I just barely went there because I was from Manhattan

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Speaker 4: and you know enough, you yeah, there's enough to do there.

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Speaker 4: And I was when you're less than when you're a

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, Manhattan's the city.

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Speaker 1: You know when people are like, no, no, Brooklyn is

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Speaker 3: Nobody is like you know.

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Speaker 1: People are always like, I'm moving to the new Brooklyn

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Speaker 3: But nobody's ever like I'm in the New Manhattan. You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you could tell by the address. I

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Speaker 2: New York. It's New York, New York. There's only one

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Speaker 2: New York, New York, and it is that one.

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Speaker 3: Burrough So did you always want to be in media?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. It was actually a complete act.

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Speaker 3: So how did this happen? Tell us everything?

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Speaker 2: So I was in college.

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Speaker 4: I went to the University of Virginia, and it's actually

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Speaker 4: a funny story. I'm not sure if I've ever told

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Speaker 4: you this. I was a Russian foreign affairs major. No,

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Speaker 4: and my first job out of college was at the

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Speaker 4: American Enterprise Institute. AI was like an internship in the

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Speaker 4: Russian studies department, which was great, and I was so

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Speaker 4: excited until they realized that I didn't speak Russian and

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Speaker 4: and then I got really into polling and you know,

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Speaker 4: elections campaigns. And it was through AI that I met

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Speaker 4: Matt Continetti, who gave me my first job, the Free Beacon,

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Speaker 4: and then I learned journalism and learned to love journalism

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Speaker 4: and media and the whole you know, funner side of politics,

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Speaker 4: which is where it's all being fought.

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Speaker 2: Out in the media and journalism.

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Speaker 1: So what were you going to do with the Russian

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Speaker 1: Foreign Policy degree?

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Speaker 4: I have no idea. I mean I went to a

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Speaker 4: thank tank. I mean I was doing well. We criticize

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Speaker 4: a lot of young kids for doing now is they

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Speaker 4: went to college and they studied what they loved, and like,

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Speaker 4: you know, I really loved foreign affairs and learning about

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Speaker 4: and then I was going to figure out what I

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Speaker 4: do later, which is what so many kids do now.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: They do it now with like one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: plus debt, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they all go to law school and

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Speaker 4: pick up another two hundred and fifty thousand in debt,

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Speaker 4: and then they need to live miserable lives as long.

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Speaker 4: So I was doing that, but thankfully I got rescued

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Speaker 4: by the journalism.

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Speaker 2: Failed, which probably very few people have ever.

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Speaker 1: Said, wow, yeah, that is actually here, like I didn't

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, exactly, more with Brent Sure coming up. But

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Speaker 5: first history shows that every market eventually falls, every currency collapses,

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Speaker 3: Right after this. So were you always right of center

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Speaker 3: growing up in New York?

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Speaker 4: You know? I try and think of when I really

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was never known that'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Not even just what it was.

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Speaker 4: It was that I lived uptown and I went to

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Speaker 4: High School way downtown at Stuyvesant, and I had like

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Speaker 4: get the New York Post everything.

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Speaker 1: I have to make the joke though, hold on, my

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Speaker 1: husband went to Stuyvesant. People who went to Stuyvesant drop it.

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Speaker 1: In the first ten minutes of conversation.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about New York City.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, sure, of course.

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Speaker 3: You know, I went to like a little school. You

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Speaker 4: No, who's never heard of the schools is Roan mom, Donnie.

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Speaker 4: Because he didn't get in.

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Speaker 4: You know, well, you're not trying to be mayor, though,

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Speaker 4: I choke for you if you were.

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Speaker 1: Right right, So, okay, you were commuting to Divesant, Okay,

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Speaker 4: It's a long I'd get the Post and all I

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Speaker 4: a Charles Crowdhammer column every day.

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Speaker 2: You know, you had Rich.

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Speaker 4: Lowry, John Potteritz. You'd get all these just really smart conservatives.

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Speaker 4: And it was right after nine to eleven, and there

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Speaker 4: time to be reading conservative commentary. Yeah, but that was

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure there are a lot of people who

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Speaker 4: probably the smartest conservatives among us.

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Speaker 3: What would have been a plan be for you had

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Speaker 3: this whole writing thing not worked out.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough question.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I probably would have done exactly

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't do and go to law school and.

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Speaker 4: Figure that whole world out, because that's what you do

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Speaker 4: when you're into you know, debate and politics, and that's

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Speaker 3: Know when you're bad at math, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I almost went to law school because I was good

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Speaker 1: at like the things that lead you to law school

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Speaker 1: and not the things that you know, lead you to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: And I think that would have been fun and now, actually,

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Speaker 4: I mean I think it would be good for conservatives.

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Speaker 4: it's actually not everything, and the people that started to

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Speaker 4: rely on it too much in twenty twenty five are

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Speaker 4: going to be screwed in twenty thirty, especially on a

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Speaker 4: journalism in the journalism world, because right now AI is

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Speaker 4: so good at finding the information out there that it

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Speaker 4: has access to and spinning it to you. In five years,

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Speaker 4: it will completely replace search engines and all that, But

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Speaker 4: what it will not replace is journalism and presenting the

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Speaker 4: information because you actually need to at that in real time,

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Speaker 4: and a good journalist is extracting information and then explaining

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Speaker 4: it in a way that their audience really wants it.

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Speaker 4: That cannot be replaced, I don't think by a robot.

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Speaker 4: And it's my challenge to reporters now, it's like, if

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Speaker 4: all you could do is what AI can do, then

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Speaker 4: you will be replaced. But this is actually amazing because

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Speaker 4: it's an opportunity for you to specialize. We don't need

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Speaker 4: to worry about AI will be great at spitting the

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Speaker 4: breaking news out to you in a news feed, It

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Speaker 4: won't be great about nailing Chuck Schumer on why he's

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Speaker 4: lying to you about the shutdown. So it actually frees

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Speaker 4: you up to do the real journalism, like the real digging.

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Speaker 4: So my prediction is that people that rely right now

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Speaker 4: too much on AI and change too many of their functions.

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Speaker 3: Over to AI, yeah, will be at a loss.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, They're gonna have no talented people in a few

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Speaker 4: years because the rest of us were figuring out how

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Speaker 4: to aid our journalism with AI, and that's gonna hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Be something that we're good at and a lot of

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Speaker 2: our friends are good at. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't see where AI can replace different some

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Speaker 1: you know, journalism functions, because people do like to hear

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Speaker 1: a voice, and maybe I'm being naive, maybe people will

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Speaker 1: hear the AI voice and associate.

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Speaker 3: It with something.

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Speaker 1: But I like to read articles and columns and know

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Speaker 1: who the writer is and hear their point of view,

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Speaker 1: because everybody has a point of view, and I don't

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Speaker 1: see AI replacing that so yeah, you know, I'll go

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Speaker 1: ahead and agree with your prediction, but we'll check back

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Speaker 1: in in five years and see if you were right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just you're so right on that point.

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Speaker 4: And that's why, like Twitter has done this in a

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Speaker 4: lot of ways or X, it's putting the personalities.

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Speaker 2: Behind the news again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and since it's so hard to decide who you'd

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Speaker 4: actually trust and what facts you'll truyt actually knowing who

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Speaker 4: the person is and seeing their kind of daily music, right,

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Speaker 4: that's important, And then you are when something breaks on

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Speaker 4: the transgender issue. I hope that people run to Mary

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Speaker 4: Margaret and Luke Rosiac because they'll know they'll get the

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Speaker 4: actual things and they know that they like see how

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Speaker 4: they work and are hearing from it first.

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Speaker 2: So AI will never replace that.

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Speaker 1: I have loved this conversation, Brent. I've always wanted to

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Speaker 1: know more about you. Now I know you went to Stuyvesant,

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Speaker 1: so you know that's big. Leave us here with your

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Speaker 1: best tip for my listeners on how they can improve

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Speaker 1: their lives.

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Speaker 2: Goes right off. AI actually would just go out, but

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Speaker 2: not fully.

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Speaker 4: Just go out and hang out with real people and

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Speaker 4: your friends, talking to them by text and having relationships

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Speaker 4: go down to just text.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really ruins so much.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I when we first moved to Nashville, it

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Speaker 4: took us a while to you know, find a community

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Speaker 4: and our friends and thankfully my wife that I hang

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Speaker 4: out with all the time. But going back to DC

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Speaker 4: and New York when I'm there and now here in Nashville,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been here for two years. But like,

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Speaker 4: there's just such a difference in how you treat people

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Speaker 4: and think about things once you've discussed them and hung

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Speaker 4: out at a bar to talk about it. Like, real

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Speaker 4: human interaction is so important. And I think people got.

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Speaker 2: That after COVID.

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Speaker 4: They realize they like him called weren't really it right.

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Speaker 4: It's so easy to FaceTime with your family and all

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Speaker 4: that stuff, but nothing replaces actually being there in person,

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Speaker 4: and you treat people so much different, and you just

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Speaker 4: it's so much more fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so that is my big advice.

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Speaker 4: Do not let human interaction becomes something that barely exists

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Speaker 4: in your life.

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Speaker 3: IRL is the best. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: He is, Brent Sure check out his work at The

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Speaker 1: Daily Wire, follow him on X.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Brent.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Carol,