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Speaker 1: longings of our hearts. Today's guest shares how he found

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Speaker 1: true happiness in the life of spiritual surrender. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to that, joining around the table is April.

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Speaker 1: It kind of sounds cliche, but it is true that

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Speaker 2: Feel that's exactly right, and we try to fill it

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Speaker 1: You read a book on it. I did. That's an

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Speaker 1: old book. Yeah, I've written another one since then, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. And Dorothy, you know, God does want us

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Speaker 1: to be happy, absolutely, but we're not happy apart from him. No,

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Speaker 3: I am a living testament to his greatness and his

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Speaker 3: And you know I've had all the wealth and I

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Speaker 1: I've never heard you say that. I know, I just

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Speaker 4: I think that's important because so many people think that

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Speaker 5: But the reality is those are not the things that No, no,

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Speaker 1: They are temporary, and they're fleeting. And but but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean we can't be happy. True.

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Speaker 6: You know, Fred our Townselor used to tell us to say,

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Speaker 6: But joy that's sustainable, and joy is with you through everything.

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Speaker 5: Right, we were talking about and.

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Speaker 6: Do we want to latch onto joy because that is sustaining.

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Speaker 1: Because Sidney Murdoch, the joy of the Lord is our strength.

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Speaker 7: It is and I was thinking about the Bible tells

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Speaker 7: And we've invested our life into it. And then where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. It sounds like a song. Well,

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Speaker 1: today's guest is the lead pastor of Sheridan Church. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome Jackson Lawmyer to the table. Come on in, Jackson,

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Speaker 1: I like that. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was just sitting here thinking about

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about the difference between joy and happiness.

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Speaker 1: When we come back to stay right where you are.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back after this.

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Speaker 13: Some books deserve to be held, cherished, remembered. This book

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Speaker 8: Bundle now.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chasing after the Winter. We're talking with Pastor

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, it's an interesting thing because we're all

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Speaker 8: But we never actually catch it.

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Speaker 9: And Jesus is the prince of peace, and so when

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Speaker 9: the presence of the Lord. So when God's presence is

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Speaker 9: And the good news is all of us were born broken.

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Speaker 9: That's the journey we're all on, is this journey towards wholeness.

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Speaker 9: So much that he gave his only son so that

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Speaker 9: we could have life eternally. But also we can have

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Speaker 9: life abundantly. And that's the good news of the Gospel.

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Speaker 9: And if you give your life to Jesus Christ, I

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Speaker 9: promise you you'll experience real joy. That doesn't leave based on circumstances.

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Speaker 9: You'll have a real peace, even when people would say

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Speaker 9: you shouldn't have any peace at all, because it transcends

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Speaker 9: everything that you might be going through or that you

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Speaker 9: have experienced. So today is the day of salvation. To

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Speaker 9: give your life to Jesus Christ. And if you'd like

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Speaker 9: to do that, it's very simple. The Bible says that

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Speaker 9: if you believe in your heart and if you'll confess

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Speaker 9: with your mouth that Jesus's Lord, there's a promise you

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Speaker 9: will be saved. And so Joani, would you like for

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Speaker 9: me to lead us.

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Speaker 1: In that we will pray after you?

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Speaker 9: So lead us, yes, And so if you would like

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Speaker 9: to make that decision, I'd love to lead you uh

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Speaker 9: in prayer and you can just say after me, you say,

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Speaker 9: Father God, thank you for your goodness, you and your mercy,

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Speaker 9: and you and your grace, your grace. I know I

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Speaker 9: was born a center, I was broken, but I also

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Speaker 9: know that Jesus as a savior, Jesus, and I declare

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Speaker 9: Jesus's Lord, Jesus Lord in my life. Fill me with

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Speaker 9: your spirit, with your spirit and seal me. And until

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Speaker 9: the day of your return, until the day of your

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Speaker 9: return in Jesus' name, Jesus Name, Amen.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Amen. It's just that simple, simple, Like, it's just

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Speaker 1: that simple. People don't realize how simple the Gospel is

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Speaker 1: and how Jesus made it so simple. You were, as

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Speaker 1: you were talking about he was broken, he was bruised,

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Speaker 1: you know, when he died on that cross. His body

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Speaker 1: was broken because he came to this earth and lived

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Speaker 1: a sindless life. He came the supreme sacrifice that would

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Speaker 1: join our hand with the hand of God and through

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Speaker 1: what he did at Calvary, and what a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: There's no other religion that gives the free gift of

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Speaker 1: eternal life. You don't have to work for it. I mean, it's.

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Speaker 8: Free, right, totally free paid for. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how different were you when you actually did that surrender?

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Speaker 1: Did you really find the joy you were looking for?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Because you know, before that moment, I was a hopeless

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Speaker 9: teenager with everyone in my ear telling me my life

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Speaker 9: was over. And in that moment, hope came. And you know,

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Speaker 9: hope is so important because hope is to the soul

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Speaker 9: like what oxygen is to the lungs. You have to

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Speaker 9: have hope to continue forward, and God gave me hope

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Speaker 9: that my life wasn't over because I was born again.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 7: Makes the heart sit yes, and I think, I think, oh,

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Speaker 7: really is a great key to happiness as well, because

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Speaker 7: when you keep that hope alive, you're able to have joy,

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Speaker 7: You're able to have happiness. And I wanted to mention

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Speaker 7: because of your book. In there, you have a guide

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Speaker 7: to happiness, the.

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Speaker 1: Ultimate Guide, ultimately ultimate tell us, the ultimate goide to happiness.

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Speaker 9: Oh well, there's a lot more to it. But forgiveness

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Speaker 9: of state, forgiveness is key because when you forgive somebody

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Speaker 9: who has wronged you and hurt you, you are behaving

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Speaker 9: and you are acting like God, because that's what God does.

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Speaker 9: God forgives us and he commands us to forgive. And

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Speaker 9: so when you start acting christ like, you'll start experiencing

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Speaker 9: some of Christ's attributes, which is joy. And unforgiveness is

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Speaker 9: a guaranteed way to be miserable and bitter.

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Speaker 1: It's like cancer. It's like cancer and your spirit. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like death to your bones. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's like that's what unforgiveness want to Where you talk

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Speaker 1: about listening to God's voice, Yes, that's one of the

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Speaker 1: important things. People say, how do I listen to God's voice? Well,

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Speaker 1: just get still for a moment. I mean those of

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Speaker 1: you that prayed, that prayer invited Jesus in you. It's

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Speaker 1: good to get into church, absolutely to find the Bible

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Speaker 1: that you can read and understand. But just the Bible

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Speaker 1: says to be still and know that I am God.

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Speaker 1: You know, it takes time to develop that sense of hearing,

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Speaker 1: but over time he wants to talk to us.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, God's not lost his voice and prayer.

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Speaker 9: I think we have this mindset that prayer is like

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Speaker 9: a monologue. We talk, God listens. Prayer should be more

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Speaker 9: like a dialogue, you know, like God speaks as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're in a relationship and so just having a

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Speaker 6: conversation with him because he wants that so desperately from us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's surrounding ourselves with the right relationships. That community

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Speaker 1: is that important. Don't you think that's important for well

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Speaker 1: believers especially.

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Speaker 9: We are relational beings. We're creating the image of a relationship.

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Speaker 9: And watch church like, oh, I know that there.

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Speaker 1: Are still people that are doing They're like, oh, we

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Speaker 1: just won't go anymore. Let's stay home and watch.

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Speaker 9: It's easier, it's more dominion. But they don't realize Christians

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Speaker 9: are like charcoals. You put charcoals together, you ignite one,

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Speaker 9: they ignite the others. If you separate the coals, they

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Speaker 9: cool off. Because if we're in close proximity, my fire

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Speaker 9: will like your fire and your fire will like mine.

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Speaker 9: But if you separate, us will cool off. And so

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Speaker 9: community getting plugged into a good Bible.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that so much, and I appreciate you talking

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Speaker 1: about this subject and I know that it's it's helped

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Speaker 1: so many of you that are watching, and I just

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Speaker 1: pray that it's been a blessing to you. We are

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Speaker 1: out of time, then we're by pretty fast, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I went fast. Don't you remember that you were designed

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Speaker 1: to experience deep, lasting, unshakable joy, and all you have

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Speaker 1: to do is just ask the Holy Spirit to direct

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Speaker 1: your path and guess what he's going to leave you

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Speaker 1: into a life of true happiness and profound purpose. If

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Speaker 1: you're watching today and you need prayer, that's why the

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Speaker 1: prayer line numbers on the screen. If you prayed that

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Speaker 1: prayer with Pastor Lawmyer, then Colin, let us know that

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Speaker 1: you prayed that prayer. I'd love to send you the

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Speaker 1: Gospel of John. We'll send that to you absolutely free.

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Speaker 1: And we also if you don't have a Bible, we

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Speaker 1: great Bible, even a little journal that you can write

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Speaker 1: and God can show you what He's speaking to your

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Speaker 1: heart as you read through the Word of God. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but you're on a journey and it's exciting to see

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Speaker 1: what God's going to do with your life in the

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Speaker 1: days ahead. Well, I do want to thank Jackson for

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Speaker 1: joining us today. Be sure to pick up a copy

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Speaker 1: of his book, Chasing after the Wind. For more, you

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Speaker 1: can visit him online at Jackson Lawmyer dot com and

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Speaker 1: as always, make sure to follow us on all social media.

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Speaker 1: Let us know our Table Talk is touching your life.

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Speaker 1: now on all the major platforms. But I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you ladies for being here, thank you Jackson for

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Speaker 1: being here, and excited about the days ahead, what God's

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Speaker 1: going to do with the church and beyond, and who knows,

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Speaker 8: You don't know, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, but hey, we'll see you next time. Bye bye

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Speaker 1: for today. So what does revival awakening look like? And

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Speaker 1: are we seeing the first sparks of it? Well, today's

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Speaker 1: guest believes we are. He's here to share what God

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Speaker 1: is doing, what's still ahead. But before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: joiney around the table is April Simon. So I hear

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Speaker 1: those two words, revival and awakening. They're both good. They

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Speaker 1: are both a little different, but we are seeing signs

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Speaker 1: of both those things.

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Speaker 2: You know what we needed in America today, and I'm

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Speaker 2: excited about it. I'm excited about what's to come. So

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Speaker 2: often we focus on everything that's going wrong, but God

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Speaker 2: has a better and brighter idea, and so I just

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Speaker 2: believe there's going to be a turnaround.

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Speaker 1: And a candle that'll preach it, certainly will. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing?

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Speaker 14: I'm doing great, and I love the fact that we

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Speaker 14: are talking about revival and even those who are in

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Speaker 14: the Kingdom we need to be revived again, Revive us again,

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Speaker 14: get everybody excited.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, Rachel Anna's right in that revival means

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Speaker 1: that you have been somewhere before and maybe God has

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Speaker 1: taking you back. Maybe you had once known the Lord,

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Speaker 1: maybe you've straight away, maybe your heart's grown cold, and

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Speaker 1: He wants to revive that.

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Speaker 4: It's a reigniting of your love and devotion.

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Speaker 5: And adoration towards the Lord.

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Speaker 4: And so it's really cool to see these bold leaders

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Speaker 4: of the gospel that are helping store this in the

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Speaker 4: hearts of people. And we see these movements that are

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Speaker 4: rising up all across the country, people just turning their

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Speaker 4: hearts back to God, and it's really incredible.

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Speaker 1: I love that, Dorothy Newton. I think you know I've

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Speaker 1: said this. I think we have a window of time

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Speaker 1: really to share the gospel, the good news, to encourage

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Speaker 1: people like April's talking about, and just ignite a fire

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Speaker 1: that if all of us, you know, like that song Cindia,

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying, each one, reach one, If we would

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Speaker 1: eat reach out to that person in our life, we

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Speaker 1: could see revival.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine what that looks like if every person,

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Speaker 3: even if we just one person, change their lives, you

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Speaker 3: allow God to use us to.

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Speaker 1: Change their lives and the self salvation.

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Speaker 3: What that would be like, it's just you know, I

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Speaker 3: remember some time ago, you guys did a show revival

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Speaker 3: and I'll never forget it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was so fired up.

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Speaker 3: I was like everywhere I went, no matter who it was.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, even in our hearts, you know,

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Speaker 3: showing showing others what that light looks like.

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Speaker 1: It's good, that's good, welcome to the table, thank you.

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Speaker 1: And you know, sheep produced sheep, Yes, they do, like

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Speaker 1: the shepherds are to teach, you know, the flock. But

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Speaker 1: I mean it's really the sheep that go out and

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Speaker 1: compel them to come in.

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Speaker 10: It is.

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Speaker 7: And even this morning while I was putting on my

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Speaker 7: makeup and I was just saying, God stir continually stirring.

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Speaker 1: David and I the burden for the lost.

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Speaker 7: And you know, we do a song with the singers,

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Speaker 7: send me to the nation, send me to my neighbors,

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Speaker 7: send me with your love. And sometimes we live in

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Speaker 7: a neighborhood and we don't even know who our neighbors are.

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Speaker 1: We don't even know if they're saved or lost. So

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Speaker 1: we've got a call. And that's important. It's important, really,

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Speaker 1: it is important. And it's important that you you say

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Speaker 1: right there because we want to encourage you today. Well,

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Speaker 1: our guest today is a lead pastor of Redemption to

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Speaker 1: the Nation's church and the founder of the RUOT Global Network.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Bishop Kevin Wallace. I'm on in my brother

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Speaker 1: here he comes from the table. You can sing that song.

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Speaker 1: Come to that. How you doing.

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Speaker 11: I'm amazing, I mean better now that I'm with you

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Speaker 11: all you're here, I'm honored to be here.

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Speaker 1: You've got six kids and you have three girls, so

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Speaker 1: you should be comfortable. I am and a wife.

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Speaker 11: Yeah there are multiple in that house, and then my wife.

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Speaker 8: So yes, that's good.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 1: From awakening across America to miraculous adoptions, Bishop Kevin Wallace

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Speaker 1: is seeing God move in powerful ways today. He's here

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Speaker 1: to share the stories what he believes is coming next.

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Speaker 1: One of the things earlier we were talking about is

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Speaker 1: that it just kind of had that compelling word that

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Speaker 1: some of you watching today, you know, you may be

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Speaker 1: believing God for something, and like maybe you've talked to

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Speaker 1: the Lord about it, maybe you've had a secret prayer,

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Speaker 1: maybe you've told your husband, your wife, or friend or

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Speaker 1: family member, but you really haven't shared it openly, but

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Speaker 1: there's just some things you really need God to do

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Speaker 1: in your life. We're going to believe with you today

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Speaker 1: for that as well. You started out what knowing Jesus

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Speaker 1: at the grand age of what?

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Speaker 11: Oh, I think I've known about Jesus my whole life.

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Speaker 11: I told doctor Doug, I said, I've been I'm forty five.

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Speaker 11: I have been in church forty six years because nine

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Speaker 11: months before I was born, I was drugged to church Jesus,

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Speaker 11: so I was hearing about him in the room, and

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Speaker 11: so I believe I remember giving my heart to the

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Speaker 11: Lord at about eighty eight years old.

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Speaker 10: And and you know.

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Speaker 1: You can't deny those childhood like salvation calls because I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I always believe it or not. The Lord

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Speaker 1: had to get me early. He knew I was six

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Speaker 1: years old, and I remember it so clearly. And of

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Speaker 1: course my walk, you know, would continue, I would mature

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Speaker 1: in the things of God at at older age. But

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Speaker 1: I can remember just having a knowledge that there was

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Speaker 1: a God who loved me and would forgive me. And

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Speaker 1: so from there, when did you actually fill the call

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Speaker 1: in the ministry?

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Speaker 11: Fifteen years old? So I was at a from a

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Speaker 11: very small church. My church was maybe sixty seventy people

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Speaker 11: growing up, and I wouldn't trade that for anything. But

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Speaker 11: I went to a youth conference when I was fifteen

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Speaker 11: of about ten thousand kids.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, those youth camps, Yeah, those are good. Yeah forget.

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Speaker 11: I went Winterfest in Gatlinburg and I'm on the back

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Speaker 11: road and I had an encounter with God when I

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Speaker 11: I was fifteen. The university campus choir was singing, lead me,

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Speaker 11: Lord and I will follow.

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Speaker 8: And you're on the back road.

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Speaker 10: I was on the back row and.

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Speaker 11: Literally Johnny crawled to the altar the power of God

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Speaker 11: said on the place, and I just wept in the

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Speaker 11: altar and surrendered everything to God, said, whatever you want

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Speaker 11: to do with my life. Went to Lee University, found

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Speaker 11: my wife and Rachel you there.

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Speaker 5: And my dad went there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so surrender. That's like because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who pray the prayer Dorothy of Salvation and say

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Speaker 1: God forgive me, prepares them for eternal life. That's the

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Speaker 1: most important prayer you can ever pray. But that surrender

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Speaker 1: prayer is like in this lifetime, Yes, okay, God, what

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Speaker 1: you want me to do?

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Speaker 10: That's what makes you dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It makes you dangerous because you connect to the one

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Speaker 1: who created hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: I say, the first the most important day of your

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Speaker 11: life is the day you get born again. The second

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Speaker 11: most important day of your life is the day you

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Speaker 11: figure it out why when you discover your purpose.

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Speaker 10: It makes you really dangerous when you live.

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Speaker 1: With that kind of and you don't even know what

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Speaker 1: your purpose is a lot of times. I mean, saints,

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Speaker 1: surrendering April doesn't mean that God's going to show you

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Speaker 1: right away with it, because it's sometimes that's the way

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Speaker 1: you can imagine. Yes, it's still a trust walk.

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Speaker 2: And there's a quote that says God can do so

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Speaker 2: much more with your surrender than you can ever do

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Speaker 2: with your control.

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Speaker 1: That one will come home.

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Speaker 10: That's powerful, It's so true.

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Speaker 1: That's true. And a quote when I wrote my first book,

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Speaker 1: Surrender All the quote that the Holy Spirit gave me.

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Speaker 1: It said, he said, write this John. It was early

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Speaker 1: one morning, and he said, did you know that your

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Speaker 1: lack of surrender, Your lack of surrender will have a

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Speaker 1: profound impact on those who are destined to be connected

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Speaker 1: to your person?

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Speaker 8: So good, Wow, So you.

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Speaker 1: Can really messing up in that puddle, you know? Is

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Speaker 1: it the ripple effect if you will, Yes, like there

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Speaker 1: are ripples that are missed when you don't surrender your

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Speaker 1: heart to the Lord. Yeah, okay, so you you did

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Speaker 1: the surrender thing, but you had no idea you're going

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Speaker 1: to be a pastor or.

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Speaker 10: No, no clue.

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Speaker 11: And I met my wife in love, fell in love

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Speaker 11: for me. It was eleven first sight for her, it

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Speaker 11: was about eight eighth site ninth that site, but it

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Speaker 11: was it was there.

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Speaker 10: I scared her to death.

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Speaker 11: I never talked to her, and I wrote her a

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Speaker 11: letter on Valentine's gave it to her while we were

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Speaker 11: lee and I said, God to him, he's gonna We're

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Speaker 11: gonna get married.

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Speaker 10: I know I did.

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Speaker 11: She thought I was a terrorist or something, and then

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Speaker 11: she she was mortified.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, she thought it was a stalker.

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Speaker 11: Saw I would just conveniently show up to class, you

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Speaker 11: know where she was a class and just be hey,

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Speaker 11: you know how she's like, get that guy away from

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Speaker 11: and nine rhyme.

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Speaker 1: It's like Kevin and Devin.

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Speaker 11: Kevin and Devon is a match made in heaven. And

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Speaker 11: on a scale of one to ten, she's an eleven.

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Speaker 1: Did you put them in the letter?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 11: No, that came to me in prayer one day, I

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Speaker 11: was in deep meditation before the Lord.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so when did she finally that when.

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Speaker 11: I gave up, I actually gave up and let Jesus

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Speaker 11: take over and surrendered.

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Speaker 10: Actually I did.

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Speaker 11: I said, maybe I missed this, and I just said,

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Speaker 11: I'm going to release you like I were had her bound.

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Speaker 11: I'm going to release you to go do whatever you

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Speaker 11: want in life. And then that's where we fell in love.

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Speaker 11: And honestly, this is a wild story.

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Speaker 8: Wait, dear, so you're just a whole.

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Speaker 1: We got to hear the feeling.

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Speaker 11: Her Methodist grandfather. Okay, he invited me over to dinner

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Speaker 11: one night. We were apart, we were not even really friends.

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Speaker 11: That had gotten difficult and I had moved on and

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Speaker 11: I was trying to let her move on. And her

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Speaker 11: Methodist grandfather, who had no clue, I had no clue

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Speaker 11: that the man was baptized.

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Speaker 10: In the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 11: We sit down over chicken and potatoes, her sweet Methodist grandmother,

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Speaker 11: and made this amazing man.

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Speaker 1: How did you get with him anyway where?

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Speaker 10: Because we were preaching.

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Speaker 11: I was a preacher, and he loved me, and I

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Speaker 11: had a great affinity for him.

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Speaker 10: He was a powerful man. Of God.

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Speaker 1: But I had no clues, just having fellowship fellow speaking

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Speaker 1: about we're not even thinking that she could cook, right,

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Speaker 1: he could.

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Speaker 11: Cook, And that has a way into my heart. And

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Speaker 11: so we're sitting at a table and he says, let's

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Speaker 11: grab hands. So it's me and her grandfather and her

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Speaker 11: grandmother and Devin sitting across the table, and we grab

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Speaker 11: hands and he starts praying in the spirit. Well, I

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Speaker 11: thought the man got baptized in the Holy ghost right

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Speaker 11: there at the dinner table.

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Speaker 10: I had no clue what was head.

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Speaker 11: And he interpreted the tongues at the dinner table and

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Speaker 11: he said, tonight, I the Lord am removing a cloud

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Speaker 11: of hindrance over this relationship for a purpose for you

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Speaker 11: two to come together. Oh, and I'm sitting there, Grandpa.

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Speaker 11: She was sitting right across from me, and I'm over here,

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Speaker 11: and I'm like, this is the most bizarre thing that's

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Speaker 11: ever happened in my life. And from that night forward,

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Speaker 11: I went to her church, her home church, preached a revival,

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Speaker 11: and we fell in love. And that was in April,

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Speaker 11: and in September, on my birthday, we got married.

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Speaker 1: Well, my goodness, well, I just want to tell you

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Speaker 1: grandpa'shs better than your letter.

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Speaker 10: Grandpa's in heaven today.

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Speaker 11: Grandpa's in heaven today, but his prophecy still lives on.

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Speaker 1: We all immediately started after you graduated to pastor. Very

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Speaker 1: small church we did, and you're very in your twenties,

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Speaker 1: twenty two years old.

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Speaker 11: When I became the senior pastor of the Mountain Meadows

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Speaker 11: Church of God, the Mountain.

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Speaker 1: Meadows Church, I love that myself.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, two Meadow Church, thirty four people on my first Sunday.

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Speaker 11: I successfully grew it from thirty four to twenty eight by.

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Speaker 10: The next side.

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Speaker 11: And we had no clue what was what God had

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Speaker 11: in mind when when he started that.

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Speaker 10: Johnny is just it was remarkable.

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Speaker 11: In the first six months, Uh, Devin got spinal meningitis.

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Speaker 11: My two sons, Isaiah was newborn and my son Jeremiah,

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Speaker 11: who was one year old. Jeremiah had kidney stones in

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Speaker 11: his first six months, my first six months as a pastor,

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Speaker 11: they found kidney stones in your minds kidney. Isaiah got

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Speaker 11: spinal meningitis, Devin got spider meningitis. I almost had a

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Speaker 11: nervous breakdown. I thought I was going to my mind.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you might get out of the ministry.

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Speaker 11: At that point, I told the Lord, I didn't sign

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Speaker 11: up for this.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 11: And I went to church on a Sunday night, having

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Speaker 11: visited my wife in the hospital with spinal meningitis, walked

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Speaker 11: down the hallway to visit my son with spinal men

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Speaker 11: and I told the Lord in that hallway, I got

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Speaker 11: a message. I preached that I got in that hallway

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Speaker 11: called hell in the hallway, and I told the Lord

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Speaker 11: in that hallway, I didn't sign up for this my

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Speaker 11: family's suffering. And it was a Sunday night. I went

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Speaker 11: to church with twenty people there that night and al

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Speaker 11: M Kelly, an old sweet saint who's in heaven today.

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Speaker 11: But she had the voice of like a bulldozer, a

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Speaker 11: big alto voice. I was getting ready to stand up

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Speaker 11: and preach. She come to me and she said, Pastor,

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Speaker 11: I have a song on my heart. I said, by

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Speaker 11: all means, Mama Kelly, sing the song. And she started

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Speaker 11: singing the Blood will never lose its power.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 11: And there were twenty people in that room that night,

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Speaker 11: but it felt like a host of angels rushed into

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Speaker 11: that place. And that night, I believe that night is

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Speaker 11: when it happened. It took two days for them to

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Speaker 11: get out of the hospital. But God healed my son

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Speaker 11: of spider meningitis. He healed my wife. And an atheist

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Speaker 11: doctor from a Vanderbilt she looked up my son's kidneys

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Speaker 11: and says, I don't know how to explain this. In

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Speaker 11: this picture we took several weeks ago. There are seven

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Speaker 11: kidney stones in your son's kidney, But in this picture

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Speaker 11: I just took.

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Speaker 10: This was a couple of weeks later. We can't find

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Speaker 10: where a kidney stone ever live.

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Speaker 11: And the church went into one of the first waves

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Speaker 11: of revival.

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Speaker 10: I call it a wave.

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Speaker 11: It was a wave of revival where just blessing and

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Speaker 11: miracles broke out.

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Speaker 10: And I give him all the praise.

886
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 11: So the doctor from Vanderbilt was an atheist, and today

887
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 11: I don't know if she's born again, but I know

888
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 11: she saw something she didn't know.

889
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 10: How to explain.

890
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: Well, that's what you call a miracle. So the church

891
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: began to grow. You said, you kind of felt like

892
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: you were hidden out.

893
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 11: You know, I felt like John the Baptist. The Bible said,

894
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 11: God hit him until it was his time. Yes, yeah,

895
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 11: And so we were just on the back side. I

896
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 11: call it the arm pit of change.

897
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: He stayed with it, like you you that was your city.

898
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 10: We did, we did. I don't think you.

899
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 11: I think it's illegal to claim a harvest that you

900
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 11: haven't sown into the field of right, you know, and

901
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 11: that takes years. I admire them and I pray for

902
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 11: these guys that bounce all over the place. There's nothing

903
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 11: wrong with that. But if you're going to have an

904
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 11: impact and a harvest, you got to fight some giants

905
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 11: and see God give you victory and sow some seeds.

906
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 11: And you know, I was reading it on the plane

907
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 11: on my way here today. Paul says to the Church

908
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 11: of Galatia, if you don't faint, you will reap in

909
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 11: due season. And I'm not going to faint, by the

910
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 11: grace of God. And you haven't fainted, and that's why

911
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 11: we're here today.

912
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, the this is a forty year journey here.

913
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: You're seeing right here. But you know, I feel like

914
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: we're supposed to talp right now. I'm going to. I

915
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: want to get to kind of some miracles that happen

916
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: beyond all this, because now you're what seven eight churches

917
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: around the world and campuses and God's did amazing things.

918
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: But as we were talking about healing, there's some of

919
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: you that need healing right now, and the Lord wants

920
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: to touch you. Would you just pray as you feel led,

921
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: Bishop as shut your hand and just pray.

922
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 11: So, Father, we just thank you for every person that

923
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 11: is tuned in right now and wherever they are and

924
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 11: whatever season in life they have found themselves in. I

925
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 11: just declare, Lord, whether they know it or not, you're

926
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 11: up to something good in their life. And I thank

927
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 11: you Lord, like Bishop Mason said, Lord one day, he

928
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 11: said that I see you in your future and you

929
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 11: look better in your future than you do right now.

930
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 11: And Lord, we just declare over every person sick in

931
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 11: their mind or in their body that they're coming into

932
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 11: a grace of healing right now. Lord, your power is

933
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 11: present to heal, not just to feel it. We thank

934
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 11: you for what we feel, but healing is available. And

935
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 11: now by faith, we thank you for healing those that

936
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 11: are watching and that their lives are going to be

937
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 11: made whole by the power of God in Jesus precious name.

938
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 10: Amen.

939
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: Everybody said, Amen, Well you got to hear this great story.

940
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: Here you are you get married the church has grown.

941
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: You have four amazing kids.

942
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 10: Amazing kids. And then and then.

943
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 11: Surprise, surprise twenty five, says surprise, surprise. I am on

944
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 11: my way home, so I'm in my forties. I'm forty five,

945
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 11: so that would have been forty one. I'm forty one

946
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 11: at this time, and I'm on my way home from

947
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 11: a preaching age.

948
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: Just a baby, Kevin, You're okay.

949
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well I didn't feel so baby ish back then.

950
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 10: But I but this.

951
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 11: I'm landing in the plane and I get a message

952
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 11: from death, my wife, and she's left me a voice message,

953
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 11: which is rare. And then the voice message, I can

954
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 11: hear the quivering in her voice, and she said, Kevin,

955
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 11: I don't know how to tell you this, but I

956
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 11: was just talking to a fourteen year old girl whose

957
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 11: grandmother called me to intervene in an unex afected pregnancy.

958
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 11: And while I'm sitting there talking to this young lady,

959
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 11: the spirit of God speaks to me and says, Devin,

960
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 11: she's carrying your child. So I thought, no, she's not that. Okay,

961
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 11: maybe she is, but it's a spiritual child and will

962
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 11: send her to college?

963
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: Break up?

964
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, So I literally I literally look at the pilot,

965
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 11: I say, take me back up in the air. I landed,

966
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 11: and this is the craziest thing I've ever heard. And

967
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 11: so I called her. I said, talk to me, what's

968
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 11: going on? And she said, I'm just telling you. The

969
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 11: Lord moved.

970
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: She doesn't say things like that. No, she's not cavalier

971
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: about things.

972
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no.

973
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 11: Devin is very, very hesitant to say the Lord said.

974
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,959
Speaker 11: But Devon is also very I am convinced that when

975
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 11: she would come with something like that, and she's heard

976
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 11: the Lord, and there was a trepidation and a fear

977
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 11: of the Lord in her voice, and it was real.

978
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 11: And I'm likev this is the busiest season of our life.

979
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 11: We planted camp is, I have two teenagers, we're getting cars,

980
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 11: my son's getting married. What in the name of Mary

981
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 11: is going on? This cannot be that we're having an

982
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 11: adoption here. And I meet the fourteen year old girl

983
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 11: with Devon, and the fourteen year old young lady looks

984
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 11: at us and she said, I've checked your family out

985
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 11: and I've seen all that you guys are up to,

986
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 11: and if you will take my baby, I will have her.

987
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 10: Now.

988
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 11: Her mother and father have both suggested she have an abortion,

989
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 11: and the grandmother who was born again said no, I

990
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 11: got to take you to this preacher's wife and gets.

991
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: Connected because Devon would work.

992
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 11: With Devin still to this day, rescuing babies us two things.

993
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 11: Work rescues women and human trafficking, and works to connectant

994
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 11: pregnant mothers who are either in an unwonted or unexpected

995
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 11: pregnancy with adoptive families.

996
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: And to give them the help and support they need

997
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the journey one hundred percent.

998
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 11: And we've done that, and she's done that so well

999
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 11: and faithfully over the years, and it just remarkable. And

1000
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 11: so I meet this girl with dev and the girl

1001
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 11: tells us that, and it's one of those things where

1002
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 11: you're sitting at a table with like five or six

1003
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 11: ladies and you're like you can't.

1004
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 10: Say no, Like you just can't say no.

1005
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 11: You're the only guy in the group, and you're like,

1006
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 11: I got.

1007
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 10: To do with my wife is feeling.

1008
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 11: And so this young lady looks at me and says,

1009
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 11: I'll have this child if you take it. And I

1010
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 11: look at dev and I'm like, what can I do?

1011
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 11: I love you know, and so we said we will

1012
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 11: long story short, this precious young fourteen year old girl

1013
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 11: courageously has this child.

1014
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 10: That fourteen year old girl has a mother.

1015
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: Wait wait before you sell that. Now you got to

1016
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: tell about We have a picture of the girl, and

1017
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: this is what he says about this little precious one.

1018
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: What do you say?

1019
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 11: She's spicy, and she's full of life and has me

1020
00:48:53,280 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 11: wrapped around everything. Her name is Genesis Amaya. Yes, and

1021
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 11: she is beautiful, she is timing out, and she's brilliant.

1022
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 10: She's four, she's tall. They told her she could be

1023
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 10: six foot tall.

1024
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

1025
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 11: And she tested on like second grade levels. So we're

1026
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 11: putting her in kindergarten. Oh, and I want to say

1027
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 11: this to all young boys. I'm not afraid to have

1028
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 11: a prison ministry. If you mess with my daughters, I'll

1029
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 11: write letters from prison, like Paul if you mess with

1030
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 11: the tall Okay.

1031
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: So you adopt her and then, as it would turn out,

1032
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: there were more surprises coming. You had no idea.

1033
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 11: Yes, So the fourteen year old girl who courageously gives

1034
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 11: birth to Genesis, that fourteen year old girl has a mother,

1035
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 11: precious dear lady who has had nine abortions, and.

1036
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: She has kind of a rough, oh lifestyle.

1037
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 11: She has endured unimaginable circumstances, torture, involved in all kinds

1038
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 11: of things that I won't even go into here. But

1039
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 11: she's getting ready to to have her tenth abortion. The

1040
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 11: fourteen year old girl goes to her mother and says, Mom,

1041
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 11: don't have the abortion. If you'll have the baby, I

1042
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 11: know a preacher's family who'll take that. No one has

1043
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 11: been passed by the preacher. We can have a consultation.

1044
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 11: And I told the young lady later, I don't need

1045
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 11: you to be my adoption. I got my wife, she

1046
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 11: can handle this. But the reality of it is, Devin

1047
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 11: met with that precious dear lady, and we brought her

1048
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 11: in because she was involved in trafficking and drugs herself.

1049
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: Not you got her some help, a safe.

1050
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 10: Place, found a safe place, a safe home.

1051
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: You get a safe place for her. And she says

1052
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: she's going to have the baby.

1053
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 11: She says, I'm gonna have the baby. And she has

1054
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 11: this child on Valentine's Day. Wow, and this little guy the.

1055
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: Day you wrote the letter to Yeah, yeah, this little.

1056
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 10: Guy is born on Valentine's Day.

1057
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 11: He was supposed to be the tenth aborted child this

1058
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 11: woman had had in her womb, but he lives, and

1059
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 11: Devin's the first one to hold him, and I'm the

1060
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 11: second one. And what's wild It is fifteen years ago,

1061
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 11: before fifteen years so now almost twenty. That's unbelievable. God

1062
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 11: gave Devin the name Isaac Asher. Isaac Asher, It's a

1063
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 11: name we had talked about but never named one of

1064
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 11: our sons. Our sons had already been born. So I'm like,

1065
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 11: who's Isaac Asher a grandchild? I mean, what are we

1066
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 11: talking about here?

1067
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: There?

1068
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 11: He was that and Isaac and Asher both mean joy

1069
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 11: and happiness, and he is the purest expression of joy.

1070
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 11: He is the baby three years old this past Valentine's Day,

1071
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 11: and I.

1072
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: Was just and they're like, they're actually related, but he's.

1073
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 11: So by by blood. He is her uncle by adoption.

1074
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 11: He is her brother, so we call him Bunkle and

1075
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 11: he is the absolute sweet child and so full of life.

1076
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 11: And you know, the Bible says God gave Jacob some

1077
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 11: sons in his old age that brought him great joy.

1078
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 11: I know I'm not old, but forty five is not twenty.

1079
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 11: And I had all of my biological children, well, Devin

1080
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 11: and I were in our twenties and I was talking

1081
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 11: to the sisters before.

1082
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 10: We got on.

1083
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 11: It's a different vibe all together. Raising two tallers in

1084
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 11: twenty twenty five, when you're forty five and you got

1085
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 11: seven churches and a network, and you got all this

1086
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 11: going on, and I just find it the most fascinating,

1087
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 11: fun and exhausting, exhausting all simultaneously.

1088
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: Yes, I know we didn't get to touch very much

1089
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: on Revival, but quickly, just take a moment and just

1090
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: share what's on your heart. Not only is it a

1091
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: revival of the family God putting families together in a

1092
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: way that supernatural, but the family of God really needs

1093
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: revival as well.

1094
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 11: Absolutely, and I think they're tied together.

1095
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 10: Mss Jonny.

1096
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 11: I think when America values what Heaven values, when our

1097
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 11: courts get in harmoning more with what Heaven's courts are

1098
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 11: in harmony with God, releases a spirit of revival on

1099
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 11: a place. And we're in a window. You said that earlier,

1100
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 11: Someone said that earlier. I believe we're in a space,

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Speaker 11: in a window where grace is flowing, a reset is

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Speaker 11: happening in the body of Christ. We want the authentic

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Speaker 11: presence of God to touch and reinvigorate hearts we're seeing it,

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Speaker 11: and we're seeing a disinterest in Christianity that is actually

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Speaker 11: dropping for the first time in forty years. We don't

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Speaker 11: know if it's going up. I choose to believe it is.

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Speaker 11: But here's what I do know that disinterest has stopped.

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Speaker 11: There's a leveling off of people who say, I don't

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Speaker 11: want to be thinking about Jesus anymore. There is this resurgence,

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Speaker 11: there's a reinterest in the person and work of Jesus.

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Speaker 11: This man with feet like brass and eyes like fire

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Speaker 11: is becoming the center of attention again, and it's changing

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Speaker 11: the Church, and I think it's time to change the nation.

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Speaker 1: Would you just take a moment and for those that

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Speaker 1: are watching right now that you maybe don't know the Lord,

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Speaker 1: and really it's so simple to pray this prayer and

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Speaker 1: invite Jesus in. And I'm going to tell you it'll

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Speaker 1: be the most important prayer you ever prayed, and it

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Speaker 1: will change your life forever. You've been looking everywhere else,

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Speaker 1: every dark corner, but this is the truth you've been

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Speaker 1: looking for, and it's a simple prayer. Way we just

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Speaker 1: do that, Pastor.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I just want to invite you to join me

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Speaker 11: in this prayer, and I want you to say, Dear

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Speaker 11: God in Heaven, I believe that your son Jesus came

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Speaker 11: and died for me.

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Speaker 12: I believe that, and I believe that the price he paid,

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Speaker 12: and I believe by giving his life giving is enough

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Speaker 12: to cancel and forgive all my sin.

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Speaker 10: And so Jesus forgive me.

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Speaker 11: Jesus forgive me, and come into my heart and be

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Speaker 11: the Lord of my life, the Lord for today today,

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Speaker 11: and the rest.

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Speaker 1: Of my life, and the rest of my life.

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Speaker 10: Jesus Name, Amen, Jesus Name, Amen.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to say again those of you

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Speaker 1: that I just felt need to say it again, those

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Speaker 1: of you that may be watching it. You've had an abortion,

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Speaker 1: We don't judge you. God loves you. He understands whatever

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Speaker 1: was going on. And I just want you to know

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Speaker 1: that He loves you today. So don't believe the lie

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Speaker 1: that Christians hate you or that God hates you. That's

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Speaker 1: a complete lie, and that's what some people will tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's not true. We love you, and God forgives and

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Speaker 1: you will see that child again if you prayed that prayer,

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Speaker 1: if you've invited Jesus in. It's just that simple. What

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Speaker 1: we are out of time. I want you to remember,

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Speaker 1: revival doesn't begin in a building. It begins in hearts

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Speaker 1: fully surrendered to God. And when we yield to Him,

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Speaker 1: his presence moves in ways we cannot even imagine. If

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Speaker 1: you're watching the day and you need prayer, or you

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Speaker 1: prayed that prayer, that's why that numbers on the screen.

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Speaker 1: We have amazing prayer partners that are standing by ready

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Speaker 1: to pray with you, and it's our honor, our privilege

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Speaker 1: should do that. We also would love to send you

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Speaker 1: the Book of John. Is the Gospel of John is

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Speaker 1: a free gift, great place to start in the Word

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Speaker 1: of God, and that that's a free gift for you.

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Speaker 1: And just want to be a blessing to you. But

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Speaker 1: I do want to thank Bishop Kevin for joining us.

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Speaker 1: To find out more about his ministry, visit Kevin Wallace

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Speaker 1: dot tv and as always, make sure to follow us

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Speaker 1: want to thank you so much for watching, especially those

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Speaker 1: of you that pray that prayer. I'm really excited about

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Speaker 1: the days ahead what God has for you. Remember, no

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Speaker 1: matter what you've done, God loves you. Today's a new day.

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Speaker 1: You can begin again today, and it starts with that prayer. Jesus,

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Speaker 1: I need you. He's right there for you. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time. Bye bye for today.